To teach our children to love their homeland: how modern students perceive the history of the country

To teach our children to love their homeland: how modern students perceive the history of the country

There are questions that concern us for a long time, but there are no answers at all, or there are too many of them. It seems that all the answers are correct. But if you think about it, they contradict each other. Today is just such a question. More precisely, several questions at once.


You did not notice some strangeness in the perception of the world, stories, the policies of our children and grandchildren? Why for the vast majority of them, Stalin is a tyrant and a murderer, and radical nationalism and even fascism are just a doctrine? How do modern students perceive the history of the country?

No, if you ask a modern young man about his attitude to Hitler, then the answer is quite predictable. Hitler is an enemy, a killer. But if we change the question a little and ask about the attitude towards the “come in large numbers” and to migrant workers or offer to talk about our proposals for solving this problem, we get a rattling nationalism.

What is the basis of modern views of young


We have already forgotten about the fascists of the 90s - early 2000s. About all these RNU and other openly fascist organizations, whose representatives walked the streets of our cities recently. Today we are surprised to look at Ukraine, where exactly the same young men, though under different names, “reign” from lanes to avenues.

So how does the memory of the victory over fascism and fascist ideas combine in young heads? How could this happen in a victorious country of National Socialism? In a country that lost 27 million people in that war?

Nothing happens suddenly. This axiom is understood by most thinking people. The idea, even the most revolutionary, must be based on something. It seems to me that I have found the place from which all this political and moral catastrophe spun in the brains of our youth. Those who today are not even 20.

It all started with their parents. Those of our very children, whose maturation took place in the dashing 90s. Remember the schools of that time? Remember the history books of the time? Dozens of beautifully published textbooks with money from overseas sponsors! Confused teachers, who were then respected by people from television screens about new, declassified facts of repression. Obviously gibberish films about the war that filled our cinemas.

Sometimes I have to answer rather complicated questions of those who are now 30-35 plus. The questions are correct. Like: why do we live so badly? Why does the state instantly forget about veterans and combatants?

Just the other day, I read this message, which was given to me by a participant in one of the soldiers' discussions. And not just a soldier, but a participant in the hostilities in the Caucasus. The conversation took place literally three to four days ago. I keep the style of the author.

“In the Second World War there were other ideals and the attitude towards people is different. It was for what and for what. Of course, you are partly right, but only partly. Now there are no ideals, people live in poverty, medicine is killed, there is no education, there is no way to be realized, there is nothing, and this is against the background of the country's extinction. Do you think people don’t understand this? ”
“If we are talking about infantry war, people will not go. Do you think the enkavedeshnik with a gun will drive me into battle? So I will answer simply. Do you know why I didn’t have hazing there? In-in, because instead of a woman I had AKM in my bed. ”


Talking about events in Ukraine, journalists always emphasize the same idea. We are not against the people, we are against the anti-people government. As, however, in the materials relating to other countries. We clearly separate power from the people.

For some reason, the correct thought, in general, was transformed in our heads into completely absurd. We began to identify the homeland and power. Country and officials. Just yesterday, I answered a direct question about what I would defend in case of war with a simple word - the Motherland. My answer was received with a sour mine.

If the father is not going to defend his homeland, simply because he considers the defense of the country to be the protection of oligarchs and officials, then what should the son think? A son who is intentionally more radical than his father. Just by virtue of age.

By the way, probably, this also contains the answer to the question that was repeatedly asked in Ukraine: where did so many Russian-speaking Nazis come from? After all, it’s impossible to explain everything with the influence of Bandera’s Western Ukraine. Zapadentsy rather supplemented the local fascists. And the parents of these "supermen" are probably terrified of what grew out of their favorite children.

Stalin's power, then Stalin is an enemy


Now about the question I started with. Why is Stalin an enemy?

Disputes about the role of Stalin in the formation of the Soviet state, in the victory over fascism, in the period of repression, in the so-called Holodomor and other events that were rich in the history of Russia of that period, continue to this day.

Both supporters and opponents of Stalin today can find confirmation of their views on the Internet or in special publications. But in general, if we discard verbal husk, even Stalin's supporters admit that Comrade Koba’s guilt in conducting mass repressions is enormous.

Now compare one with the other. Raised by parents a feeling of dislike for power and attitude towards Stalin. Joseph Vissarionovich personifies absolute power in the eyes of many. Moreover, the state’s power over man. Hence the hatred of this man. Hence the belief in all kinds of nonsense, like the total number of people who died in Stalin's camps or personal orders for executions.

To convince a person that he is wrong is almost impossible. This we see again on the example of Ukrainian nationalists. When it comes to uncomfortable questions, they just “turn on the fool”. Our youth is no different from the Ukrainian in this matter.

To teach the Motherland to love or leave everything as it is?


The question is very strange at first glance. Naturally, we must be taught to love the Motherland! But the second question arises. And who should teach? Dad, who himself speaks of dislike for the homeland? A teacher who lives well and richly only according to Moscow officials? Non-governmental organizations that write “integration into the world system” of something there as the first point of their existence? Who will teach?

There is an even more cruel question. And who will today's youth believe? Who is really credible for young people? The question that drives us parents into a corner. Alas, for most young people we are not authorities. We are vintage, retro, exhibits of the museum of local lore. Idols are not us. But how to instill love for the motherland?

Leaving the young at a crossroads is a betrayal. First of all, our betrayal of adults and smart parents who have gone through a lot. But how can they now explain what's what? How to explain that the homeland and the state are different concepts? What did we protect, then their fathers, not Yeltsin, Putin or the oligarchs, but our families, them, after all? And they died for mother, father, wife, children. For that birch and for the haze over the neighbor’s hut ...

The amount of information that young people today receive from the Internet is so great that it is impossible to resist it. School, social activists, all kinds of activists there will never be able to convince a young man that Wikipedia is lying. The fact that those who “open their eyes to the truth about the USSR” lie about the war.

This means that only we parents can change our attitude to the state, to the country, to our homeland. But change only after we decide. We will defend the country after we decide what the Motherland is for us. What is sacred to us. And are we able, like our grandfathers once, to forget for a while all insults from this state and to defend it.

Able, as then, in 1941, to attack Tanks enemy bayonet. Who with “For the Motherland!” For Stalin! ”, Who is with“ In mother’s soul in God! ” But to go together to the enemy of their homeland. Then there will be no insoluble problems with the questions of assessments of history.
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  1. Same lech 18 February 2020 13: 09 New
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    To teach our children to love their homeland:

    What are you talking about ... you need to at least teach schoolchildren to respect teachers ... and what they are doing with teachers just doesn’t fit in my head ...

    again, the overgrown schoolboy beat the teacher ... too much was allowed to them with impunity.
    https://news.rambler.ru/incidents/43701026-draka-starsheklassnika-s-uchitelnitsey-popala-na-video/
    1. Stas157 18 February 2020 13: 16 New
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      So, you did not notice some strangeness in the perception of the world, history, politics of our children and grandchildren? Why for the vast majority of them Stalin - tyrant and killer

      Such is the ideology now descending from above. If at school they tell children (and there they tell!) About the fact that Stalin is a tyrant and about repressions, and on TV in all war films there is always a villain - NKVDshnik, then drop by drop on young fragile brains and the job is done.

      The authorities themselves defame the Soviet government with their own hands, and therefore spit on their past.
      What is the recent statement, Konstantin Aranovsky (judge of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation), who stated that the Soviet Union was a state illegally created.
      1. Svarog 18 February 2020 13: 49 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Such is the ideology now descending from above.

        Exactly! There is a deliberate denigration of the great period of the glorious history of the USSR. And all this with the filing of our so-called "elite". They destroyed everything, broke it, sold it ... but didn’t build anything new .. and systematically get rid of the population year after year ..
        It means changing the attitude to the state, to the country, to the Motherland, only we parents can. But change only after we decide. We will defend the country after we decide what the Motherland is for us. What is sacred to us. And are we able, like our grandfathers once, to forget for a while all insults from this state and to stand up not for its protection.

        The homeland is the homeland and our grandfathers would not have forgiven us for what we brought our homeland to. They shed blood for the socialist idea, but they defended and for the first time in the history of mankind a state has emerged that to this day amazes with its victories ! And those who are now appealing to patriotism want to go to paradise for free on the hump of the people .. Here it would be necessary to determine either patriotism and socialism or capitalism and each for himself .. And then how to serve in the army .. so the state should be given the debt and how to treat children .. then you yourself are sms throw yourself ..
        1. Varyag71 18 February 2020 14: 20 New
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          The Pension Fund recently announced that military service is now beyond retirement age, and so on.
        2. Den717 18 February 2020 14: 40 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          Here it would be necessary to determine either patriotism and socialism or capitalism, and each for himself ..

          Well yes. After all, before the revolution in 1917, there were no wars. And the serfs in 1812 went to death with the idea of ​​socialism?! ... Some kind of nonsense ...
          Quote: Svarog
          Exactly! There is a deliberate denigration of the great period of the glorious history of the USSR. And all this with the filing of our so-called "elite"

          So the author asks the question - where are the parents? And parents, having read VO, campfire the native power chosen by them, on which the light stands. So VO - is that planted from above? The mouthpiece of the Kremlin? Something does not fit ...
          Quote: Svarog
          Homeland is Homeland and our grandfathers, just we would not be forgiven for what we brought our Homeland ..

          I think that the motherland is all of us. And if something is wrong with the Motherland, then the first question should be addressed to itself - and what is your role in this? Almost like Kennedy - don’t ask what the country has done for you, ask yourself what you did for your country ?! So ask yourself, what have you done so that your child knows the history of his country and loves it (the country) as it is? I'm afraid many do not always have the courage to confess to their deeds.
          From the point of view of a simple parent, I would say that worldview subjects (history, social studies) are not taught very well at school. The program is saturated, but there are not enough hours. Therefore, as our pride Irina Isinbaeva admitted, only now, being invited to the commission to amend the constitution, she read it for the first time. And she, by the way, is a candidate of pedagogical sciences, major of the RF Armed Forces. What relation to history can a graduate of the secondary school have if he does not know it? That's right, he does not love her ... someone even hates her. It’s like a relationship developed in a school with a teacher. I believe that the history exam should be included in the category of compulsory, and the textbook should be made unified without the involvement of a “liberal creative community”.
          1. Kronos 18 February 2020 15: 01 New
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            The peasants were going to death when the French began to rob them more than the Russian nobles
            1. Den717 18 February 2020 15: 08 New
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              Quote: Kronos
              The peasants were going to death when the French began to rob them more than the Russian nobles

              Bravo ... How many Frenchmen managed to rob by June 25?
              1. Kronos 18 February 2020 15: 22 New
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                They did not have enough supplies because they did not count on a protracted company. Therefore, they began to take the latter from people after that they immediately rose. By the way, something similar happened in the war with Frederick when the Russian troops entered the land of the Germans and began requisitioning food, their inhabitants also rose so much that they had to retreat for the first time
            2. Victor N 18 February 2020 16: 55 New
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              Only? Do not lower the peasants, they were also patriots, and always: during wars with the Poles, Tatars, Swedes, Teutons, Mongols .... And not only in wartime - they created the state consciously, and not just from under the stick.
              1. Kronos 18 February 2020 17: 01 New
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                You are confusing the modern concept of patriotism which appeared in fact in the 19th century when national states took shape
          2. Lannan Shi 18 February 2020 15: 21 New
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            Quote: Den717
            Well yes. After all, before the revolution in 1917, there were no wars. And the serfs in 1812 went to death with the idea of ​​socialism?! ... Some kind of nonsense ...

            Learn the story. No serfs were drafted into the army. Yes, she was recruited from serfs, but after 2-3-4 years of service, and then served untiloooh, the former peasant was torn from his estate. A little more than entirely. And the only war in which it was the peasants who had to fight, massively and for a long time, ended with the fact that they fled from the front. That's stupid due to the complete lack of motivation.
            1. Den717 18 February 2020 16: 31 New
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              Quote: Lannan Shi
              Learn the story. No serfs were drafted into the army. Yes, she was recruited from the serfs, but after 2-3-4 years of service, and then served untiloooh, the former peasant was torn from his estate.

              To begin with, you would understand the essence of what is being discussed ... And then to demonstrate your knowledge of history, or rather sensation, because it is difficult to name what is written by knowledge. But categoricality remained the same. Teach your children ... laughing
              1. Lannan Shi 18 February 2020 16: 39 New
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                Quote: Den717
                Teach your children ..

                I’m teaching, I’m teaching. Geniuses may not grow up, but they will certainly not become a complete lack of education, calling names pro warriors, with a length of service of a quarter century, a gang of serf peasants. And you burn further. Excessive knowledge does not suit you.
                1. Den717 18 February 2020 17: 00 New
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                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  I’m definitely not going to become a complete ignoramus, calling a pro warrior, with a quarter-century length of service, a gang of serfs

                  You probably experienced a knockout in your sporting childhood? You have something wrong with the conceptual apparatus laughing Where did you see my word "gang"? And if you are not able to figure out the essence of the topic of conversation with a respected swindler, then I explain it on my fingers. Mr. Svarog in his commentary brought patriotism and socialism to one point, to which I expressed my disagreement, citing as an example the soldiers of pre-revolutionary Russia recruited from the serfs. The peasant estate was mentioned in the sense that, by virtue of their life experience, they could not have ideas about socialism. But with all this, heroism was shown in the war. I understand clearly?
                  1. Svarog 18 February 2020 17: 10 New
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                    Quote: Den717
                    in his commentary he brought patriotism and socialism to one point

                    So what's the point of fighting for the master in what? I didn’t understand you .. You have a state for people or people for a state (or its high-ranking representatives). Let's start with this question. And answering it, perhaps you will understand my position on patriotism ..
                    The example you brought is not relevant because everything is developing, and in those days, the peasants did not own a letter and listened to what the church would say, but the church knows that it has always defended the interests of the nobility ..
                    You must understand that beautiful words in conditions when such a stratification in society doesn’t work .. It is clear that our "elite" wants to see a people who will die for their interests under patriotic slogans, but this is absurd .. especially in conditions capitalism .. But when the state is for people, and this is possible only under socialism, here the situation is completely different, here everything will be patriots as one because they defend not one's interests, but their own ..
                    1. Den717 18 February 2020 18: 38 New
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                      Quote: Svarog
                      You have the state for people or people for the state (or its high-ranking representatives). Let's start with this question.

                      Let's. I think the “for” in this case is not entirely appropriate. I think that the state consists of people, large and not very, commanders and subordinates, educated and undereducated. Each of us takes its place in this state. Protecting the state, we protect first of all ourselves and our prospects for life and the life of those who are dear to us.
                      Quote: Svarog
                      But when the state is for people, and this is possible only under socialism, here the situation is completely different, here everyone will be patriots as one because they defend not one's interests, but their own ..

                      Many people came out to defend socialism and their interests in 1991? That's it ... There is something non-social, irrational, which forces a soldier to cover the commander with his body, and a simple employee of the enterprise to risk his life when fighting a fire at his enterprise, which is actually the property of a bourgeois or a handful of shareholders.
                      Quote: Svarog
                      in those days, the peasants did not own a letter and listened to what the church would say, but the church knows that it has always defended the interests of the nobility ..

                      Very rough judgment. All those who listened to the church, as you say, more than once, but in 1917-20 massively and enthusiastically burned these churches together with priests. Nevertheless, those who did not have property entered the Brusilovsky breakthrough, and yesterday was a hundred miles away from the concepts of the world revolution.
                      1. Svarog 18 February 2020 20: 59 New
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                        Protecting the state, we protect first of all ourselves and our prospects for life

                        About that and speech .. what are the prospects for the lackeys? For people who do not have a future and under capitalism will have it and will never, because as poverty, only poverty or service personnel will produce for the master ...
                        There is something non-social, irrational that makes a soldier cover his commander with his body

                        Here, everything is clear, this fighting brotherhood is called ..
                        and an ordinary employee of an enterprise to risk his life when fighting a fire in his enterprise,

                        But just the workers who are putting out the owner’s enterprise I haven’t met or heard yet .. If there is a real danger to life, then there are hardly any people who want to risk it ..
                        All those who listened to the church, as you say, more than once, but in 1917-20 massively and enthusiastically burned these churches together with priests.

                        That's right, they just began to understand where it was growing from ..
                        I think the “for” in this case is not entirely appropriate

                        More than .. more than appropriate. The state should serve the people and the overwhelming majority should feel the benefit of the state, but when the state only cuts taxes, but in return .. here questions arise for the state .. and more precisely for those who determine the course and rule the country ..
                        Everything should be fair and understandable .. Capitalism - each for itself and for any service for the state, it must pay the citizen .. and the price that the citizen will charge .. and we are trying to bring down payment by a sense of patriotism .. If we understand socialism that we really own this land and its bowels, then a debt to the state appears .. Since the state provides free medicine, education and other important social components for the citizen .. without which it is difficult to imagine development ..
                      2. Den717 18 February 2020 21: 29 New
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                        Quote: Svarog
                        The state should serve the people and the vast majority should feel the benefit of the state, but when the state only cuts taxes, but in return you sew ..

                        Probably it is very simple in all its difficulties to crush the loaf on the state. Somewhere maybe deservedly. And at the same time, we don’t notice the things that we are used to - that it’s warm at home, the salary is on time, they don’t kill people on the streets, they rake the paths at the entrance. By clicking on the clave passports are made without long torment in the queue, an ambulance arrives 15-20 minutes after the call. We don’t notice this anymore, because it’s familiar. And do not ask questions - where does all this come from? Who is doing this? Itself? No matter how. And here, and around there is much more - a trace of the work of the state in various manifestations and faces. And all for you, spitting in those faces. I’m not saying that there is a large contingent of “comrades” beyond the hillock, whom you are preventing from building this paradise on this earth. And you are again defended by the state that you have not appreciated by you. Hand on heart, you paid 13% for all this around? Enough? Personally, for this money, would you agree to provide the full range of services to another person?
                      3. Svarog 18 February 2020 21: 46 New
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                        Quote: Den717
                        Hand on heart, you paid 13% for all this around? Enough? Personally, for this money, would you agree to provide the full range of services to another person?

                        What naive you are .. if only 13% we paid .. We pay more taxes than Americans .. if you are interested in this topic, look at YouTube there is a detailed layout .. yes and the article was on this topic ..
                        and if about 13%, then I personally paid about two lyamas already .. (for the entire working period) and I go to a paid clinic because we have queues for specialized specialists for more than a month .. for a communal apartment from the kopeck piece 7 thousand. I pay well Further..
                      4. Den717 18 February 2020 22: 08 New
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                        Quote: Svarog
                        and if about 13%, then I, personally, paid about two lyamas ..

                        In a year? You have a good salary. And you are not satisfied?
                        Quote: Svarog
                        for a communal apartment with two thousand 7 thousand cry

                        I'm for my 77 meters 11-12 cr. I do not consider it transcendental.
                        And articles about the tax on payroll in 43% are written for not very literate people. So an entrepreneur has an obligation to pay a certain tax on an open vacancy. And if he succeeds in avoiding this tax under any “sauce”, he will not give you the savings. After all, when you get a job, you don’t agree on social contributions with the employer and, as a rule, you are clearly guided by a certain X-NDFL figure. And besides this personal income tax, you can still pay annual taxes for any taxable property. There is no naivety, only a bare calculator and the terms of the contract.
                      5. 2 Level Advisor 19 February 2020 00: 04 New
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                        Well .. and the likelihood of a situation that the employer might suddenly pay the money to the employee and not directly to the state? Or do you think this is a tax "not of the employee" but of the employer? And why then does it count towards the employee? Maybe if they paid a completely white salary and didn’t hang up the duty on all payments for the employee, then the employer wouldn’t be given the opportunity to "avoid the tax" under the sauce - he simply and why wouldn’t it? And to find out about the size of salaries from the data of the employer submitted to the Federal Tax Service - she could easily b .. Do not know why they will not do so?
                        No, dear man, this is exactly what is called a "hidden" tax .. Formally, you are partly right, but the essence does not change ..
                        After all, theoretically people do not pay VAT, but in fact it is in the price of the goods .. this is also a hidden tax, etc. How to get away from VAT in a product?)
                      6. Den717 19 February 2020 06: 12 New
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                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        Well .. and the likelihood of a situation that the employer might suddenly pay the money to the employee and not directly to the state?

                        For what reasons does the employer agree to increase payments to you if you have already agreed on these payments when applying for a job? The goal of a commercial / self-supporting enterprise is to maximize profits.
                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        Or do you think this is a tax "not of the employee" but of the employer?

                        Exactly ... And therefore, employers sometimes try to "circumvent" it. In some cases, he does not list for example contributions to the FIU. More often translates wages into the "gray zone", i.e. into an envelope, and a retirement worker suddenly notices that only the social part was formed for him in the FIU.
                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        And why then does it count towards the employee?

                        The employee, in my opinion, is only the personification of the workplace, because to calculate this "tax" you need a specific payroll
                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        Maybe if they paid a completely white salary and didn’t hang up the duty on all payments for the employee, then the employer wouldn’t be given the opportunity to "avoid the tax" under the sauce - he simply and why wouldn’t it?

                        An employer pays taxes one way or another. Therefore, I think it’s easier to take from him, from an individual. Yes, and the habit and tuning of the system takes its roots from Soviet times. Tradition. A combined system works in the USA - either you pay all the taxes yourself, or you hire an employer as a tax agent, and he transfers income tax instead of you. To whom it is convenient. But usually everyone pays health insurance themselves. While young and healthy, there is always the temptation to save on it. Not everyone does it. There is complete freedom - you want to live, pay, but you have the right not to pay and die in the hospital’s receiver. We have some minimum, quite substantial, if you live legally.
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                        No dear man, this is exactly what is called a "hidden" tax ..

                        I am not a fan of looking for flies in sour cream. There is a "calculation" in which everything that is necessary is indicated. What is accrued, what is withheld. When the numbers correspond to those in the contract, I am calm. If there are deviations, then there is something to show to the other side.
        3. Lannan Shi 18 February 2020 18: 01 New
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          Quote: Den717
          Where did you see my word "gang"?

          The only unit that can be organized from serfs is a gang. As demonstrated by all the peasant riots.
          Quote: Den717
          to which I expressed my disagreement, citing as an example the soldiers of pre-revolutionary Russia, recruited by recruiting from serfs.

          On the fingers again. The soldiers were not serfs. They were personally free. And not peasants, namely soldiers. A completely different class. By its legal status between noblemen and philistines. And perhaps closer to the first than to the second. Before giving any examples there, study what you are going to talk about.
          And by the way. The years 100-200 before the war of 1812, the Swiss served as an example of military heroism. In the service of the French, for example. Ready to hear about the French patriotism of Swiss mercenaries. Yeah. Pro warriors are never patriots. They are just pros. No more, but no less.
          Dixi /
          1. Den717 18 February 2020 18: 48 New
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            Quote: Lannan Shi
            On the fingers again. The soldiers were not serfs. They were personally free. And not peasants, namely soldiers.

            Well, you really are a difficult lady. I repeat from the quote you quoted - "a soldier ..... recruited from serfs ...". Do you understand? They were peasants, and they were recorded on the shelves, they were given a shotgun, a set of uniforms. And so they became soldiers. Such is the dialectic of development. smile
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Pro warriors are never patriots.

            This is not from me at all. Our “Wagnerites”, for example, are pure mercenaries, they make a rustle not for fear, but for conscience.
  • Avior 18 February 2020 15: 39 New
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    Who should write this tutorial?
    Irina Gadzhievna?
    She finished with a pole, now she’ll bring the Constitution in order and then write a history book?
    1. Den717 18 February 2020 16: 36 New
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      Quote: Avior
      Who should write this tutorial?

      There are a lot of authors, but the idea should correspond to the interests of development and interpretations of the country.
      I cited Irina Gadzhievna as an example of the fact that many people even claiming to be enlightened do not know the constitution. She at least admitted this, many hooves beat themselves in the chest despite the fact that they have no idea in the topic under discussion.
      1. Avior 18 February 2020 17: 17 New
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        And why should she, although she is certainly a well-known and honored person, not refuse to do what she honestly admitted has no idea?
        1. Den717 18 February 2020 18: 19 New
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          Quote: Avior
          And why should she, although she is certainly a well-known and honored person, not refuse to do what she honestly admitted has no idea?

          The working group, which includes Isinbayeva, develops proposals, while there are a lot of people in the group who are not professionally associated with jurisprudence and lawmaking. But there are also very high-level professionals. So these non-lawyers, who may also have first become familiar with the constitution for the first time, should definitely participate in this group because the constitution is a law about life in the country, and those who have experience in life can make practical suggestions to it. Like Mashkov, for example. And following your logic, we all need to refuse to vote. After all, it is up to us to make the final decision on it (the constitution). It is so?
  • Victor N 18 February 2020 16: 26 New
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    No need to denigrate any period in the history of the country, including the current one. Our family has never been interrupted - neither under feudalism, nor under socialism. For WE are. Many people remember only their parents, grandfathers. Great-grandfathers - already less. And even deeper - few know. Why?! On my own I know - they were afraid to Tell the truth about their ancestors, so that they would not count as a "counter". Remember the questions in the questionnaires: the social background of the parents were under occupation?
    The state, which is today, was created by OUR ancestors, who lived no better than ours: they built housing themselves, fed their families, served, and treated their children. We are OBLIGED to respect our ancestors and created by them. Obliged! By its origin. And the state is obliged to improve, strengthen, improve each personally.
  • mavrus 18 February 2020 19: 20 New
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    Of course, what teenagers are taught by "adults" (be it school, television, the Internet, etc.) is a nightmare in itself. But adolescent nihilism has not yet been canceled. There is still a whole layer that is not available to "adults." "In the Internet" they communicate with peers, or with those who pretend to be such. And if "our" powers have everything on the drum, their children and grandchildren are brought up in London. That "the enemy is not asleep," and from there, so many prozombirovannye piled up.
  • prior 18 February 2020 13: 22 New
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    The other day I heard from my daughter: "We (the younger generation) do not owe you anything. When you gave birth to us, we were not asked ...."
    Did I bring her up like that? Why give birth?! ...
    Selfishness goes through the roof.
    1. toha124 18 February 2020 13: 38 New
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      They are just more impudent. They say it out loud. But did the youth (especially adolescents) of all previous generations not have such idiotic thoughts? Then they will understand.
      1. Sergey39 18 February 2020 13: 48 New
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        Then it will be too late. Previously, they did not say out loud because it was impossible. And now everything is allowed. This is the main trouble of our future.
        1. Erich 18 February 2020 14: 52 New
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          That’s what the problem of “It’s possible to talk” appears ... probably the article in the Criminal Code should be entered so as not to chat a lot ...
          1. Sergey39 18 February 2020 15: 06 New
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            “You can talk” and “everything is allowed” - these are completely different things.
            1. kalibr 18 February 2020 15: 29 New
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              "Freedom is a conscious need." Aware!
            2. Erich 18 February 2020 15: 33 New
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              An abstract question: do you think there is a difference if you are hated openly or secretly?)) For you personally, is there a difference?
    2. Slavs 18 February 2020 15: 04 New
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      Quote: prior
      We (the younger generation) do not owe you anything.

      Well, it’s trouble until the door knocks .. Then mom, dad help ...
      1. Sewer krainiy 18 February 2020 16: 33 New
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        Well, it’s trouble until the door knocks .. Then mom, dad help ...
        But mom and dad will be gone, and trouble has come. Here they drive into the head of youth that no one owes anything to anyone. Generation gap, gap of Slavic community, support of father, mother, brother, sister, neighbor. ChW - man to man is a wolf, so educate.
        1. Slavs 18 February 2020 17: 02 New
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          All right. Therefore, I agree with Staver, we must educate our children, and not blame the Internet and school.
    3. Nikolai Grek 22 February 2020 21: 43 New
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      Did I bring her up like that?

      what you were deprived of parental rights? !!! recourse wassat
  • Voyager 18 February 2020 13: 24 New
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    This is a special case, repeated, but not often. But the issue of education and the attitude of children to history is a really important and global issue.

    Among the authors of textbooks and teachers, some kind of vile schobla, who oppresses her Russophobic line, settled in. At my university, the vice-rector, respected person, doctor of science and all matters that led the history of culture, openly called Stalin a coward and a murderer in his lectures. The opinion of the student, if there is an objection, is not accepted to be voiced. Moreover, there were arguments, in some places there may have been a sound grain in his criticism (in some places), but on the whole, this presentation of the material was at the very least an imposition of his personal relationship with demonization.

    As a clear result, by the way, about half of my former classmates voted for Sobchak in the presidential election. In the evening they like someone in the center of Moscow to plump a vinyl, someone to smoke grass. And all with ambition, they say the intelligentsia. Which is ready to post stupid memes about GDP in social networks. It’s me that everything will only get worse if you don’t immediately start a normal job from scratch starting with young children at school
    1. rich 18 February 2020 14: 03 New
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      To teach our children to love their homeland

      For this, first of all, there must be a certain ideology. And it should be laid down since childhood. Before the revolution, it was a family life and religion. The USSR has deployed a whole system: October Pioneers, Komsomol members. There was a special publishing house - children's literature, a special children and youth film studio named after Gorkov, and a special children and youth broadcasting. Remember at least the "pioneer dawn." The school curriculum was designed so that the younger generation received the makings of patriotism from the lower grades, loved and proud of their homeland. There was a national Soviet idea. In the 90s, they broke it all, but didn’t give anything in return. Now we are reaping the benefits, and frantically looking for a national idea, rushing from extremes to extremes. Religion? Sport? Glorious story? We do not have a national religion. There is nothing to be proud of in modern sports. Forgive my Lord, too, forgive me with films and post-nineties books. So a generation appears confirming that it would be better to surrender Leningrad than to endure the blockade, all sorts of "koliizsurguta".
      1. Victor N 18 February 2020 17: 10 New
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        Well, why is ideology necessary? Describe your pedigree to your children - who the ancestors were that they survived. Now they will not listen, they will not read, then they will do it.
      2. ANNA1968 19 February 2020 21: 08 New
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        The history was turned and perverted so much that the Slavic fraternity was completely insane, and this is all publicly accessible, which distrusts even what has recently seemed obvious. It is impossible to turn back. Our achievements were hushed up for too long (out of modesty?) And they gave carte blanche to enemies who needed to get into their heads to break confidence in the older generation and all human values. They swallowed the 90s of debauchery and the general “scribbling” of the population according to the principle: do not meddle, do not intervene, do not protect, otherwise you will scribble and there are many such examples. They taught indifference and wolfish rules: the one who is stronger, bolder, the boor and the thief is right .. And those who honestly and hard worked remained in shit. All this is clear and not hidden, and the visual is the most influential and attractive. Well lives the one who stole and became a director or an official, or a politician. Children now want to be just them. They don’t dream of other “dishonest” works, and when they realize that society has become “caste” and will not be a director born as a locksmith, they go to great lengths: from drunkenness to suicide. Patriotism has not stood in the ranks of values ​​since the beginning of perestroika and is buried here even deeper to the point that now being a patriot is like nobody "seeks to love" the motherland in any scenario .. The reality is too terrible. And the family is not held in high esteem, especially with a good upbringing, children become outcasts because the exception, not the rule! Too many families simply survive, and do not care about such unprofitable things as raising their own children as worthy people of the state, in which we ourselves no longer believe, therefore we do not see his interest in a sane population. The surrounding reality confirms that these politicians, directors and officials do not need us. They need a stupid illiterate immoral herd, which is brought up on the Internet under the dictation of our enemies. History is not studied, but adapted to political tastes and foreign customs. Well, where does such admiration for everything foreign come from in Russia? .. From there is disrespect for one’s own homeland.
    2. Erich 18 February 2020 15: 00 New
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      Well, of course, and only representatives of the healthy lifestyle, scientists, Nobel laureates, writers and "best of the best" voted for Putin. And everything else "g" voted for others. Everything is clear in yourself
      1. Voyager 18 February 2020 17: 16 New
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        Everything is clear in yourself

        Which is understandable? Keep going
        1. Erich 18 February 2020 17: 29 New
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          At a minimum, if a person votes for Sobchak, then it’s all logical that he is a drug addict, an “intellectual,” and so on. Probably, too, “damages” would have voted for Navalny, but for the current “breakthrough” President no-no, immunity from fools against him, his hidden achievements are only understood by “high society” (they most likely vote for him). By the way, I myself didn’t vote for the current president, but it’s a bad luck: I never dabbled in drugs in my life, I also don’t drink alcohol, my family is big. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
          1. Voyager 18 February 2020 20: 14 New
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            This is all you yourself thought up for me, but they attributed to me. For you, this is “logical,” but for me it’s just an observation from life that forces me to draw certain conclusions about the majority of representatives I know of who vote for Sobchak and part-time fans of Navalny. Yes, these people smoke grass and plump and loafers. Why did it catch you if you are not one of these people?

            By the way, do you approve of the political program of Sobchak?
            1. Erich 18 February 2020 22: 23 New
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              I do not care about the political program Sobchak, from my observations voting for Putin no less than drug addicts, alcoholics and scum of all stripes. Do not recall the way the political program of Putin in the elections? Do not remind him of his participation in the debate, without which it is forbidden to run anywhere at all? Remind me of his success at the helm of the country? Or as usual - “She drowned” (with a smile and dementia on the president’s face)?
              1. Voyager 19 February 2020 00: 00 New
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                It is amazing what a concentrate of liberal (in a bad sense) cliche. Adequacy has melted before our eyes. I have no more questions for you.

                You will first study the law, then you will refer to what is forbidden and what is not. Clause 8, Article 52 of the Law on the Election of the President of the Russian Federation allows the replacement of a candidate by an authorized person for the following circumstances: illness, or job performance. There is nothing to worry about if other people convey the president’s position.

                What else is there? Oh yes, achievements. Raising living standards since the early 2000s, rebuilding the army, returning the Crimea.

                Or as usual - “She drowned” (with a smile and dementia on the president’s face)?

                What a question, that’s the answer.
                1. Erich 19 February 2020 08: 54 New
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                  Well, who was Putin's confidant? What political program or course did he designate? I am not interested in your attitude towards me. A defensive reaction in the spirit of "well, everything is clear, liberal" can be left to yourself. The rise in living standards and the credit enslavement of the population overlap. I served in the army for 12-13 years, out of 12 ZKP machines on the move, only 3 are, of the available aircraft at the airport (military unit 69806), only 6 are actually capable of flying, the rest stand and rot further. The barracks are all killed and peeling, constant pipe breaks in the bath and laundry complex, constant accidents at the airport. Where I served about that and I say. Of course, we always had “amusing regiments”, so that people would poke their lips and say “Here! They raised it with your money! Eagles!” When the rise and restoration of the army began there, tell me please?))
    3. karabass 18 February 2020 15: 58 New
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      Well, they would have corrected him! Yes, a seasoned killer, a mokhushnik of the highest class, a bandit, a terrorist, but not a coward!
      A coward will not go into a wet and deadly business - to rob and kill collectors in order to send a share of the loot to Lenin to Switzerland
    4. Sewer krainiy 18 February 2020 16: 45 New
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      And all with ambition, they say the intelligentsia. Which is ready to post stupid memes about GDP in social networks.

      And who created the February Revolution of 1917, removed the king, and then did not know what to do with the authorities, he gave a damn. Rotten intelligentsia. If the Bolsheviks did not take power, they still argued in all sorts of thoughts.
  • Paul Siebert 18 February 2020 17: 45 New
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    Absolutely agree with you.
    You can’t teach love. You can’t make love.
    Children need to be taught respect. To parents, to teachers, to a small homeland.
    It is necessary that the child be proud of the place where he was born, where he lives, where he learns the world.
    I need a Teacher, just so - with a capital letter.
    This year my son is graduating from a pedagogical university. He has only one guy in his group. And twenty four girls!
    And this is at the faculty of mathematics and computer science, where, it would seem, the analytical male mind should prevail.
    The current government has made the work of teachers prestigious and unattractive. And who can be brought up by a middling teacher who somehow makes ends meet?
    Hama and ignoramus. The victim of the exam ...
    Bismarck said - not the generals in the trenches win the war, but the teachers at the school desk!
    That phrase would be written in the Constitution! angry
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 06: 08 New
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      “Prestigious” and “Attractive” are social concepts, these relations are formed in society, that is, by US.
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      The current government is all prestigious labor. You can’t earn anything by labor in Russia. But devotion, flattery please.
      And now, introducing a protective dome for themselves and their surroundings in the form of non-jurisdictional statesmen (Stalin, in addition, they have a scoundrel and a criminal), these people are leading Russia to another collapse.
      1. Victor N 20 February 2020 08: 34 New
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        It seems that you didn’t really try. And I, since 1990, have not worked in less than two jobs, to this day. Therefore, I advise. But the matter is not only in the number of workplaces - improve your qualifications. And everything will turn out! (just do not worry about the lack of a yacht - this is a prerequisite). Good luck!
        1. Campanella 20 February 2020 11: 15 New
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          You don’t have to judge by yourself, this is not objective. My work from the material point of view was not the worst. And it is clear that the work was not one ... I did not go hungry. I am talking about others. And it's not about yachts. It's about people who have no housing, no work, no prospects, respectively, for the future. I don’t think it is right to have 2 or more works because I lived in the USSR and felt fine working in one place. But the democrats came with the liberals and put everything on their ears turning life into a pursuit of paper carrots. I am for a society of equal opportunities, fair distribution and realization of the best human qualities. I understand that this is utopia, but if you make it a strategic goal, it does not matter if you reach it in absolute terms or not, the gradient of movement will be important.
          1. Victor N 21 February 2020 13: 25 New
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            "Fair distribution" is an incomprehensible phenomenon. I do not need to distribute anything - I myself will consume what I earned. At every moment, the position and security of a person is the result of his labor. And the prospect alone can be provided, there is no one else. There are considerable opportunities, but not everyone wants to use them.
            1. Campanella 21 February 2020 13: 40 New
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              You do not understand the main thing, you earn and live in society, while using the benefits of civilization. In this case, distribution is inevitable, it is a fact that does not suit you. If you don’t want it, go ahead taiga big live there, overeat as much as you want nobody will say to you. Build your world.
  • Campanella 18 February 2020 17: 50 New
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    Love and respect for the motherland does not come from study, but from deeds, deeds, accomplishments! If you take these criteria to be proud of modern Russia there is no possibility. Poverty, lawlessness, the collapse of the economy! What should children be proud of? The vast expanses of nature? Yes, we are proud of it, while we have not yet killed and sold everything.
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 06: 11 New
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      Where did you see poverty - show!
      Do not walk in the backyards! You cannot defame your country.
      1. Campanella 19 February 2020 08: 01 New
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        Even Satanovsky, not hiding, says that things in the Russian economy are getting worse and worse.
        I judge in Moscow requisitions are growing, medicine is in full obstruction, it is unrealistic to do an ultrasound scan by compulsory medical insurance, it is unrealistic to get to a specialist for two weeks at least.
        All things are mainly China.
        KamAZ and he wanted to stop because of a disruption in the supply of Chinese spare parts. Only the raw materials part of the economy works. Education ... muzzled the children with "study", and at the exit zero.
        You advice learn how to objectively look at things and less to watch and listen to sand.
  • Ptolemy Lag 18 February 2020 13: 25 New
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    Hatred of Stalin ?? !!! Its authority is growing from year to year, people understand who won the Second World War and restored the industry, who were not afraid to challenge financial imperialism! The collapse of the USSR began in March 1953. Joseph Vissarionovich had tough control methods? Others, that then, that in today's Russia do not work, we all see this. Stalin was a tough, decisive, intelligent leader. Most importantly, he was a patriot of his country. The author, do not mention his name in vain, do not trash the memory of the Great Man.
    1. rocket757 18 February 2020 13: 32 New
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      His authority is growing year by year, people understand

      Not so simple! In addition to external stimuli and understanding that before it was just ... better, for example. It takes painstaking, well-coordinated work of many, many, so that just understanding and faith rest on clear knowledge of the truth.
    2. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 18 February 2020 14: 26 New
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      I also don’t understand what a respected author writes about.

      The level of approval of Stalin by the Russians broke a historical record
      Read more at RBC:
      https://www.rbc.ru/politics/16/04/2019/5cb0bb979a794780a4592d0c
      1. Campanella 18 February 2020 18: 00 New
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        The author simply maneuvers, since it is impossible to tell the whole truth about today's Russia, it will be an attempt on the constitutional system. Which by the way the "best" minds undertook to rewrite for themselves once again. They can do anything, they can raise the retirement age because there is no money, the next day they say that money is up to the fig, but there is nowhere to invest it, and then declare that the constitution must be changed in order to support workers in a rapidly changing reality.
        Voluntarism in the most perverted version, you see. It’s good that the authors of Misha, even though fragments of truth pop up sometimes. And so they would have sat from revolution to revolution in ignorance)))
  • toha124 18 February 2020 13: 26 New
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    First of all, to the parents themselves and do this thing. This must be accepted and realized. The modern school is not involved in education. She has other tasks. Whether we like it or not, we do not live in the USSR. We need it ourselves. Explain, tell, show, carry. Yes, and so that the children were not bored. Otherwise it does not work. Hard? Yes. And who said it would be easy?
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      parents themselves and do this thing

      Alas, it is impossible to shout propaganda against the entire state machine of propaganda alone. When rotten propaganda such as liberal values ​​is pouring from every corner - how to convince a child that all this is a lie? Are the true values ​​completely different? You can’t leave at one parental authority .. Although you certainly have to try. Suddenly, even then they think about it?
      1. Slavs 18 February 2020 14: 53 New
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        Quote: paul3390
        how to convince a child that all this is a lie? Are the true values ​​completely different? You can’t leave at one parental authority .. Although you certainly have to try. Suddenly, even then they think about it?

        Do not try, but do. Have you conceived a child or tried? A soul has come into the world - educate and not try. Everyday. You do not take food from your child by the right of the strong? Teach yourself to remove from the table? Set an example that the place must be conceded, and if a person slipped, give a hand? Or is education a course of economics?
    2. New Year day 18 February 2020 14: 59 New
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      Quote: toha124
      First of all, to the parents themselves and do this thing. This must be accepted and realized.

      in the first place with parents, dress and feed the child. If they work at 1.5 rates or at 2 jobs, then this is not realistic. In Russia, 26% of children live in families with incomes below the subsistence minimum. The highest level of poverty among children who live in large families is 52,2%. (Rosstat)
  • tihonmarine 18 February 2020 13: 26 New
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    Talking about events in Ukraine, journalists always emphasize the same idea. We are not against the people, we are against the anti-people government.
    But the power there was far from popular, it remained the same, and in the near future another is not expected there.
  • rocket757 18 February 2020 13: 29 New
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    So, you did not notice some strangeness in the perception of the world, history, politics of our children and grandchildren? Why for the vast majority of them, Stalin is a tyrant and a murderer, and radical nationalism and even fascism are just a doctrine? How do modern students perceive the history of the country.

    but as adults, parents, social networks initially taught ... this is only later, moreover, to an empty head, where in time clear, defining knowledge was not entered!
    The old postulate ... Look for someone profitable and everything immediately becomes clear if the understanding works as it should!
  • rudolff 18 February 2020 13: 37 New
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    What about children? In adults, there are no landmarks left, a wall to which you can lean. Power? Church? Justice? Which party? Everything revolves around money to survive.
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      Quote: rudolff
      What about children? Adults have no landmarks left

      This is a problem for adults themselves. Decide for yourself whether you are a man or a jackal. You can survive in different ways.
    2. Victor N 18 February 2020 17: 19 New
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      Which wall to lean against ?! Not allowed! Only stand firmly on the legs, tail pipe! And go! Otherwise, you will not survive.
  • Zaurbek 18 February 2020 13: 37 New
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    The Russian Federation is an ordinary capitalist multinational state. If there is no war for extermination, then what other wars can be? What motivation should a veteran have? In the USA, Israel, Turkey, this issue has been resolved in different ways. In Europe, I don’t know, but it seems to me that no. In the Russian Federation there are still vestiges of patriotism .... while grandfathers (who fought) and fathers (who were educated in 60-70) were still alive .....
    If the leadership does not come up with anything, it will be difficult for the next generation to explain that it is necessary to go and fight for the greedy interests of the oligarchs, so that they would later build a new skyscraper in Moscow City .... and their children studied in London. And the company was in Offshore.
    1. Victor N 18 February 2020 17: 28 New
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      Homeland - above, dearer and more important, and the oligarchs, and other class differences. People who decide what to fight for and what not for should not be hired. What needs to be done is indicated in the Oath. Dot!
      1. Zaurbek 18 February 2020 17: 36 New
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        When the Motherland puts you in one position, throws it over, says that you did not come out with mugs (skin color, nationality), then each specific human community has questions for this great concept - the Motherland. These are what the government should do. And it will turn out, as with Ukraine, Motherland was one darling, and now ..... (I am silent about unrelated peoples to the Russian Federation)
        1. Victor N 19 February 2020 06: 19 New
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          What is this: Homeland should you do makeup? You need to take care of yourself, only in this way! Nobody owes us anything. I do not agree - in kindergarten!
          1. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 07: 07 New
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            Everyone takes care of himself .... only then not everyone wants to defend our common homeland.
            1. Erich 19 February 2020 08: 57 New
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              Whoever wants, let him protect
              1. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 09: 02 New
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                Yes .... but the country needs to have more such people.
                1. Erich 19 February 2020 09: 04 New
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                  This will happen when people will be proud that they live in this country. They will be afraid of losing such a good place to live when they value their achievements (and they will value their achievements themselves). It is not the last duty of the state to constantly prove to the people that they made the right choice by choosing managers. But we have a little differently)) First, the state shows its value and people pick up and carry and not vice versa, excuse me))
                  1. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 09: 07 New
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                    Moreover, there were precedents when people were thrown both with ideas and with understanding. As it was after Afghanistan and after the Chechen events.
                    1. Erich 19 February 2020 09: 10 New
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                      The only thing you can do: educate your children and instill in them the correct understanding, instill in them "immunity from propaganda." Let them live, grow and become specialists, and then for them in the world all (a large number) of roads will be open and they will vote with their feet and heads for the country in which they want to live
                      1. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 11: 08 New
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                        So I need to be encouraged to do this .... now it’s not the USSR and children can easily go to study in Europe or America ....
                      2. Erich 19 February 2020 11: 09 New
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                        If you want to let them go, I don’t see any problem here))
                      3. hydrox 19 February 2020 11: 11 New
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                        Of course, they can!
                        If the parents are pinocchio, and the little one is not from a secondary school ...
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                        And I would even recommend - since it does not hold anything. We will save on incentives.
                      5. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 17: 23 New
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                        The main thing is that then there would be someone left to give economical and human material that it absorbs.
                      6. Victor N 20 February 2020 08: 38 New
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                        Do not wait: Russia was, is and will be (is)!
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                        Russia was of different sizes ..... and became Russia with certain associations and policies. And the last 100 years is decreasing in size.
    2. Victor N 19 February 2020 14: 03 New
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      Protect if you just received something? It's rotten! God forbid from such defenders of such defenders.
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    then no one owes the state.
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 18: 47 New
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      Citizens, by definition, have responsibilities to the state. For the failure to comply with some, the law provides for criminal liability. Do not like it - get out of citizenship, it is now easy.
  • polar fox 18 February 2020 13: 37 New
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    There is an even more cruel question. And who will today's youth believe?believe yourself ... the elder also told me, "and what did your honesty give you?" ... although he himself did not become a verbiage. he serves on a contract. but "for puten, Sechin and Rosneft" will not go. Young people understand that The INTERNAL enemy is more dangerous than the mythical external. The results are seen.
    1. Slavs 18 February 2020 14: 38 New
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      I also faced such a question, but not from my son ... I answer: I sleep peacefully at night and people close to me know what I'm standing ... But the scale of values ​​is different for everyone, unfortunately.
  • rigoletto2001 18 February 2020 13: 39 New
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    Teach your children to love their country — not the USSR, but the one in which they live. To want to live in it and make it better. Teach them to be free, conscious citizens in whose hands the future. Not by the past of a long-vanished country, but by your young state. Teach their respect and love, to their parents and first of all to themselves. Because they are the future of your country, and he who respects and loves himself, he treats others the same way. Those who from childhood inspire self-esteem, honor, not allow injustice to oneself and to others. Teach them simply th truth is a free person, this is a responsible person. Thank you to everyone who read it. All of Love and Peace.
    PS
    Anyone who does not agree with what is written or just wants to comment, I will only be glad to hear your comments and suggestions, but you should not count on reciprocating courtesy. Good day time and a long happy life.
  • paul3390 18 February 2020 13: 45 New
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    How to teach to love a state that does not love you? In the Patriotic War - everyone very clearly understood what they were fighting for - for the Soviet Motherland. For the people's power. And now if it happens - for what? For the fat-faced bourgeoisie and bureaucrats who stole our country and brought the people to poverty? They will not climb into the trenches, and they certainly will not send their little sons. Unlike the Soviet leaders. It is still unknown where the worst enemy will be, in front or behind. "For motherland for Stalin!" - this is understandable and close, but how many people want to climb with a grenade under the tank "For Putin"? Or climb the machine guns "For Medvedev"? That's the same thing ... Because everyone knows what Stalin represents and what Putin represents .. For what it is worth dying, and for what not.

    Before crying about the loss of popular love, it would be good for the people to do something for themselves .. Or at least stop spreading rots on them .. But the capitalist cannot understand this, for him the highest value is loot. He thinks that for the money it will be possible to buy everything, including the protection of the people. Other motives are simply inaccessible to him. Oh well. So - what state, such and love ...

    In general - if God forbid that a serious thing starts - the result will be like in the First World War .. When the people at the end simply refused to lift a finger in defense of the authorities. For he resolutely did not understand the reasons why he should protect her .. She was simply a stranger. With all the consequences ..
    1. fif21 18 February 2020 14: 12 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      In general - if God forbid that a serious thing starts - the result will be like in the First World War .. When the people at the end simply refused to lift a finger in defense of the authorities. For he resolutely did not understand the reasons why he should protect her .. She was simply a stranger. With all the consequences ..

      drinks
    2. Varyag71 18 February 2020 14: 30 New
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      It is necessary to conduct a survey among adherents of EP and GDP and cheers. Let them answer, they are ready to go with a grenade under the tank shouting For United Russia! For Putin! For Mishustin ?!
      1. Zaurbek 19 February 2020 09: 04 New
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        Especially when their children already live in Europe or America .... and the accounts are there. And the presence in the party is only a defense of your business.
    3. Slavs 18 February 2020 14: 34 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      World War I .. When the people in the end simply refused to lift a finger in defense of the authorities. For he resolutely did not understand the reasons why he should defend her

      You will have to defend not the power, but your home ... This is if someone comes to us. They never came to us with gifts.
      1. paul3390 18 February 2020 14: 43 New
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        This immediately raises the question - from whom should it be protected in the first place ... Where will be the greatest danger to the country? For the ruling class - stopudovo will surrender us for no smell of tobacco, as soon as he is offered acceptable conditions. How to fight in this situation? And it will be just that - the experience of all the latest conflicts speaks of exactly this - Americans always start an attack from the top of the country. And do you really think that they are for the sake of the Motherland - they will sacrifice their capitals, mansions and families in the West? Oh, I can’t believe something ... Why then have they been robbing the country and people for 30 years?
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          Quote: paul3390
          ruling class - stopudovo will surrender us

          I agree.
          Quote: paul3390
          the experience of all recent conflicts speaks about this

          I agree.
          Quote: paul3390
          that they are for the sake of the homeland-will sacrifice their capital, mansions and families in the West? Oh, I can’t believe something ...

          I agree.
          But is this really going to give us the right to meekly watch how NATO tanks move along Red Square?
          Grandfathers from the grave will not forgive me.
          They will not ask if I live well, they will ask why I discounted their life, which they laid for me ...
          1. paul3390 18 February 2020 16: 19 New
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            So - we need to have time to change the elite to a more reliable and patriotic. And this is possible only as a result of a change in the social system. For under capitalism, they will buy new ones just like the old ones. Only the loot with it has value.
            1. Slavs 18 February 2020 16: 42 New
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              Quote: paul3390
              have time to change the elite

              Do not have time.
              Quote: paul3390
              as a result of a change in the social system

              Yes. But how to change?
              We return to parenting. To raise a generation not of egoists, but of people who place the interests of society, and then the state, above their interests. And for this it is necessary to love the homeland. And it is necessary to convey this to parents to their children, because today a school, universities, and the state as a whole will not do it.
              We live on the boundary of generations and if we give up, we will love Russia with all its centuries-old history.
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                For each of your non-egoists there will be 1 egoists. So there will be only "ridiculous enclaves of the right people." Again, an occasion for propaganda, "We are surrounded by bastards and gold ourselves")))
        2. Varyag71 19 February 2020 14: 07 New
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          If a great trilogy. Partisans of the Third World are called like. Kolentiev Alexey. It is very relevant now.
  • Narak-zempo 18 February 2020 13: 46 New
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    It’s just that modern children are wrong. They were given complete freedom for self-education - neither parents nor the school interferes - and they, pogans, strive to arrange some AUE.
    The youth, again, runs after Anal, but mows it from the army. And who else will teach the motherland to love, if not grandfathers?
  • bober1982 18 February 2020 13: 46 New
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    I never watched any fascist youths on our streets, the author exaggerates.
    Back in the perestroika years, the then authorities created all these operetta organizations (Memory, RNE) as an information scarecrow. No more.
    It is incorrect to compare with the current Ukrainian fascists, serious forces stand behind them, and the Bandera themselves represent the same serious strength and power.
  • Lamata 18 February 2020 13: 55 New
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    And it’s not just at school that they’re also holding a drawer, they’re closing the mausoleum. My son (11 years old) asked me why the church was being built by Shoigu, which would help the army.
  • Chaldon48 18 February 2020 13: 57 New
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    Respect for the teacher began to be eroded back in 1976 when they introduced the compulsory ten-year period, it seems to be a good thing, but what it turned out to be, the children began to be driven to school, who had already firmly decided to put an end to their studies, which they themselves did not want to study and actively began to prevent others from learning, here to give the teacher more rights to discipline, I certainly don’t mean servitude, but at least put the bully out the door, put a deuce for behavior, call parents, but little, no student behaves badly, deuce the teacher, may interest, well, and everything, where did you see a school in which teachers would be entirely talented like Makarenko?
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      Quote: Chaldon48
      back in 1976 when they introduced the mandatory ten-year period,

      Is that so? After the eighth grade - up to half of the class went to vocational schools, there was no obligatory decade.
      1. Lamata 18 February 2020 16: 25 New
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        Well, all sorts of different things are mandatory for 8 years, but there, who is next and who is in vocational school ..
        1. Sewer krainiy 18 February 2020 16: 58 New
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          Well, all sorts of different things are mandatory for 8 years, but there, who is next and who is in vocational school ..

          Why only in vocational schools, in technical schools did a lot. Now, I’m reading, some people go to technical schools after graduating, they give practical education there, not theory ...
          1. Lamata 18 February 2020 17: 01 New
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            Yes, I heard that there is such a tendency.
  • fif21 18 February 2020 14: 10 New
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    How to make me love a woman who only uses me? So I will not teach children to love the Motherland, if for me she is a stepmother! Well, those for whom Russia is a cash cow treat her with contempt, for their children it is "Raska"! Ask the mustachioed nanny (Peskov), how does his daughter relate to Russia?
    The conclusion is to teach our children to love their homeland, in modern Russia the task is impossible. In the USSR, free medicine, education (including higher education), pioneer camps (the price of the voucher is purely symbolic), housing, pensions (which you could live on, not survive), GOSTs, 8 hours a day, trade unions ..... they exchanged everything chewing gum, jeans and sausage. And how hard workers bent! And now, let's love this mess! hi
    1. Slavs 18 February 2020 14: 31 New
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      teach our children to love their homeland, in modern Russia the task is impossible

      For the Russian soldier, there are no impossible tasks))
      Stop the panic, do you know what alarmists do? )))
      1. fif21 18 February 2020 15: 04 New
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        Quote: Slavs
        For the Russian soldier, there are no impossible tasks))

        laughing laughing For a soldier - I agree! He wants to live or earn money, he will fulfill any task. And for the idea - no stupid! wassat
        Quote: Slavs
        Stop the panic, do you know what alarmists do? )))

        Panic? There is none, there is an understanding of the situation and bitterness from the fact that someone is trying for free to use the patriotism of the Russian people for their own purposes. It does not crawl, no matter how much the bourgeoisie cling to the Second World War. wassat
      2. Varyag71 19 February 2020 14: 10 New
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        For a Russian soldier, now the service life is not included in the retirement age. So here is love.
        1. Victor N 19 February 2020 18: 49 New
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          If you do not distinguish between hot and smelly, it is better to remain silent.
          1. Varyag71 20 February 2020 07: 26 New
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            so keep quiet! and say the same thing to the bureaucratic children who study abroad, and then, as an amazing thing, become government officials or top managers in large corporations. Well, of course they served. Only then do they vote for an increase in the retirement age, cancellation of benefits, etc. Therefore, you should be silent, although if you are so happy for power, then write, 30 silver coins can throw you
  • depressant 18 February 2020 14: 13 New
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    Author, are you afraid of "explosive nationalism"? But then, what did the so-called Russians, besides this, leave the authorities in the arsenal of our patriotism — not crumpled, not crumpled, not charmed by its sticky touches, not thrown away, not crushed by a heavy liberal foot in an inconceivably expensive boot? What else have the dirty hands of her corrupting propaganda reached from the Soviet past? What remained of our present being not soiled by her rotten touches?
    What is my choice of weapons under given conditions? And he is poor and extremely simple.
    I do not want my youth in my land to be hired by Western masters, which has long been the case. I don’t want Romanians, Frenchmen, African-Americans, and others that walk around my land in a hostile outfit of NATO troops.
    And the authorities left me nothing else. And the patch of the village in which I live. Only my national difference from these all. A bit, right? When there is no rear in the form of a great history, and there are only its stinking ruins, the country as a fortress is fragmented into private spots, where everyone is free to decide whether to defend it or not, and it is unlikely that he will think about the next.
    1. domokl 19 February 2020 05: 50 New
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      laughing
      Quote: depressant
      Author, are you afraid of "explosive nationalism"?

      Quote: depressant
      I do not want my youth in my land to be hired by Western masters, which has long been the case. I don’t want Romanians, Frenchmen, African-Americans, and others that walk around my land in a hostile outfit of NATO troops.

      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, and you are an interesting nationalist-internationalist. As I understand it, you come from the "great Soviet people". I'm from there too.
      And yet, I liked the thesis of a great story. Beautiful thesis. Only here is the story she is a multifaceted lady. Not bad and not good. Beautiful and mean, slim and crooked-legged, with a beautiful hairstyle and hairy legs. She is like a woman. Or do you love her with all the flaws, or you just don’t just love her ...
      For the rest, you said exactly what I wrote. Only in other words ..
  • Alex66 18 February 2020 14: 18 New
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    Naturally, we must teach to love the Motherland! But the second question arises. And who should teach? Dad, who himself speaks of dislike for the homeland? It is impossible to separate power from the Motherland, we constantly encounter power, see what it leads us to and where it is going, how it judges our children (the Network’s case) and how Serdyukov and Vasilyeva (a relative of the former Prime Minister) were deprived of their pensions, well, a progressive tax would be introduced. We are deprived of free medicine, they themselves are treated abroad. What is left for us? Only give my life for their bright future, and the future of our children is not so bright and I do not want such a future for my children.
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  • Slavs 18 February 2020 14: 28 New
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    Wonderful article. And the conclusions in the last paragraphs, Alexander Staver makes the right ones. In the comments about 6-7 years ago, I discussed on these topics with an emphasis on family education. And no other way. No one will come and raise your children. Only you. The atmosphere in the family and what happens beyond the threshold of the house should clearly show the difference, what is good and what is bad. The future depends on the children, and we get what we invest in them now. For me, the urgent problem, as well as for many here family. They have been trying to trample my love for the Motherland for many years, but now it’s generally merry ... But I did not see the borders of the Motherland in the picture and for me these are not empty words.
    1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 15: 39 New
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      Quote: Slavs
      In the comments about 6-7 years ago, I discussed on these topics with an emphasis on family education. And no other way. No one will come and raise your children. Only you

      And who will bring up the "family"?
      1. Slavs 18 February 2020 15: 50 New
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        Do you have a family ? Who raised you and your wife? The orphanages with understanding the family have problems, and where did you get this question? You can hear your version, who brings up the "family"?
        1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 02 New
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          Quote: Slavs
          and where did you get this question?

          He went out into the street and looked around.
          1. Slavs 18 February 2020 16: 28 New
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            I was there and looked around, that's why I am talking about parenting.
            So what was your question?
            1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 37 New
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              Moreover, not all Socrates and Makarenko, but the pressure of the surrounding reality is continuous and comprehensive.
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                Quote: mat-vey
                the pressure of the surrounding reality is continuous and comprehensive.

                I agree. Does parenting (full-fledged) happen discretely? You mean that the "street" won? I somehow raised my own ... And how I feel about the Motherland can be traced in the comments right up to 2012 ...
                1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 17: 10 New
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                  You can reduce it to particulars, but with millions of people, statistics play a role .. And man is man - the state has the power to rule orders of magnitude more soul.
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                    Quote: mat-vey
                    in millions of people, statistics play a role.

                    Family is a unit of society ... Remember?
                    Quote: mat-vey
                    the state has the power to rule orders of magnitude more soul.

                    I would say the state has more opportunities to poison ..
                    But parents should rule the souls of their children. Just not in a drunken stupor, of course.
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                      To being determines consciousness, I have nothing to add ..
  • knn54 18 February 2020 14: 30 New
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    In joining the conclusions of the author and visitors, I want to draw attention to one point. It was VERY DIFFICULT not to cross the line beyond which national identity turns into nationalism.
  • bober1982 18 February 2020 14: 49 New
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    When young people start to listen to a song How the Motherland Begins Basner-Matusovsky, and not rappers, then it will be possible to talk about her patriotic education.
    By the way, this song on liberal fellow citizens acts like a red rag on a bull, it is this song, it is simply hated.
  • Krasnodar 18 February 2020 14: 54 New
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    Mandatory conscription is a melting pot, from which the love of the motherland is forged. To fight - not for a birch and not for a haze, but for those who are to your left and to your right.
    Patriotism - when you know where dad served, where grandfather served, where great-grandfather fought, you will become a patriot.
    Knowing how dad mowed down from the army and what a grandfather’s military pulpit is, you will blame the authorities for everything, steal, get a job only where there is a leftist, say that you work the way you pay and dream of dumping you from here to Geyropa or P-ndostan, which, in which case, we are left-handed, but only to know what to do with the machine gun in our hands ...
    1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 15: 41 New
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      Quote: Krasnodar
      Mandatory conscription is a melting pot, from which the love of the motherland is forged.

      Here doubts arise - the army is always a reflection of the state.
      1. Krasnodar 18 February 2020 15: 51 New
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        No. )))
        The Jordanian army is not a reflection of its rather undeveloped country, Pinochet’s army was least like Chile of Salvador Allende, etc.
        1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 07 New
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          Well, the King of Jordan loves to play soldiers - and he has the royal army and the kingdom. And what about Chile? What did Allende play in super honesty and did not touch the security forces?
          1. Krasnodar 18 February 2020 16: 32 New
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            Infrastructure, economy, the internal political situation in Jordan are at a very low level. At the same time, the army is pretty good - the only one from the Arab countries leaving the database with the IDF with almost the same balance of losses.
            Allende economically brought the country to a pen. The army put things in order.
            1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 40 New
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              Are you aware of the agreement that Allende had when he became president? He does not touch the security forces - so he had an old army, and he did not last long.
              Well, the ampirator does not spare the funds for the army, as they have adopted.
              1. Krasnodar 18 February 2020 16: 43 New
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                And what about Allende’s agreement with the security forces? We are talking about the army as a reflection of the state.
                1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 45 New
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                  Indeed, nothing at all ... If he does not touch them, then how does he change them.
                  1. Krasnodar 18 February 2020 17: 22 New
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                    laughing
                    And so he brought the country up to 300% of inflation - the army, which did not enjoy the support of most of the population of Allende, was by no means touched out of kindness
                    1. mat-vey 19 February 2020 03: 49 New
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                      What are you talking about now?
      2. Slavs 18 February 2020 15: 51 New
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        Quote: mat-vey
        the army is always a reflection of the state

        I heard the army - a reflection of society.
        1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 09 New
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          In a socialist state - a socialist society, in a capitalist - capitalist society. In my opinion, it is.
          1. Slavs 18 February 2020 16: 32 New
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            Could you answer my question? You served in the army and in what time period did this happen?
            1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 16: 43 New
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              As I replied to VO here, we are not discussing and do not pass on to the individual.
              Only in the Soviet Army, as far as I remember, damage was not calculated for a battered BMP during training, as now for a plane broken during training.
              1. Slavs 18 February 2020 17: 17 New
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                I am interested in understanding the form in which information can be conveyed ... You are not similar in terms of vocabulary to the military, especially the old formation. Judging by the comments, you are not bad at navigating in the IT field. It's just that sometimes it’s hard for civilians to understand what an army man is trying to say ...))) I don’t see clear answers to the question, everything is somehow amorphous, like a melted holole ... Discussion for the sake of discussion ... I apologize if it’s kind of embarrassing for you touched, but you are a difficult conversationalist))
                1. mat-vey 19 February 2020 03: 48 New
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                  This is from laziness - well, just print scrap in footcloths.
                  And I didn’t have an opinion about VO as something serious, to be honest - a standard Internet flood. Yes, articles are very interesting, but nothing more.
                  1. Slavs 19 February 2020 10: 58 New
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                    Quote: mat-vey
                    And I didn’t have an opinion about VO as something serious

                    When everything was just beginning, the resource was much more interesting in terms of discussions.
                    1. mat-vey 19 February 2020 11: 00 New
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                      It's always like that ...
    2. domokl 19 February 2020 06: 01 New
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      You did not pay attention to the quote ... I can give you a lot of such quotes. These are not the boys who mowed down from the army wrote. I don’t know about dads and grandfathers, but these are those who themselves went through the crucible of war. He did not sit out in the kapter, but lost friends at block posts and in the trenches of friends. Some even souvenirs in their own bodies still carry ...
      Much more is this melting pot ... But still, their thoughts are not from ultrapatriots
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        So these are patriots.
  • New Year day 18 February 2020 14: 54 New
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    Leaving the young at a crossroads is a betrayal. First of all, our betrayal of adults and smart parents who have gone through a lot. But how can they now explain what's what? How to explain that the homeland and the state are different concepts.

    The most serious question! But, alas, no answer and no decision. They are stuck between the USSR and Capitalism and the authorities do not know what to bring with them from the past. and what to leave. And so we live upright: we seem to praise the feat of the Soviet people. but then Mannerheim hangs a tablet and drapes the Mausoleum
  • Erich 18 February 2020 14: 55 New
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    Quote: Voyager
    As a clear result, by the way, about half of my former classmates voted for Sobchak in the presidential election. In the evening they like someone in the center of Moscow to plump a vinyl, someone to smoke grass. And all with ambition, they say the intelligentsia. Which is ready to post stupid memes about GDP in social networks. It’s me that everything will only get worse if you don’t immediately start a normal job from scratch starting with young children at school


    Well, yes, and only great scientists, healthy lifestyle, engineers, Nobel laureates and writers voted for Putin. An interesting substitution for you
  • paul3390 18 February 2020 14: 55 New
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    Have you conceived a child or tried?

    Yes, I have the oldest 32 .. wink Here grandchildren appeared - anxiety about them .. what
    1. Slavs 18 February 2020 16: 03 New
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      My 22)) So do not let grandchildren out of your attention, more correct stories)) I often remember my grandfathers ...
  • paul3390 18 February 2020 14: 57 New
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    Now when for the interests of the State increase retirement age or VAT or gas prices

    What a funny and funny thesis ...
  • Alexey-74 18 February 2020 15: 02 New
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    Love for the motherland is brought up in the family and at the school desk, and what kind of love for the motherland is propagated in the family? Constant dissatisfaction with power, poverty and hopelessness in the country, and at school? Quiet horror is just the current education, but the behavior of students, and even young teachers? This is where the roots in the Society grow from, it turns out there are no roots ..... as long as everything rests on the older generations who still remember the USSR, what will be not clear at all .....
    1. mat-vey 18 February 2020 15: 44 New
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      - Being determines consciousness ..
  • karabass 18 February 2020 15: 52 New
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    Do you want to know how to make patrites out of children? Yes, everything here is clear as God's day! - make their parents a decent salary! And that’s all!
    And if parents work, try for the children, and they are paid as beggars, then the authorities should by all means avoid war
  • paul3390 18 February 2020 16: 26 New
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    Quote: Den717
    I think that the motherland is all of us. And if something is wrong with the Motherland, then the first question should be addressed to itself - and what is your role in this?

    The concept of homeland consists of three components .. This is the people living in it, this is the country in whose territory it is located, and this is the state that rules everything .. And each component has its own interests, which do not easily coincide .. Well, let’s take a look at example of the 90s .. The people - it became good? No. Very shitty. In the interests of the people - it would be just the continued existence of a modernized USSR .. They would get rid of a bunch of problems .. The country - has lost vast territories, which means that it is bad for it. But did the people feel bad that they ceased to live in the same state as Caucasians, Central Asians, Baltic states? Oh dubious thesis - now at least we are not forced to feed them and endure their dear national mentality .. State. here he, as an exponent of the interests of the bourgeoisie, was very well. For the people were robbed merrily and with a hoot, the country - in general, nevermind, it is not for nothing that our liberals recall with such longing "the saints of the 90s .."

    You see - how on the everyday example the aspirations of all three components do not coincide? Which of them is your homeland for you? For which you are going to fight and which will you defend? And if the state openly goes against the people-which side to take? And if the people-wants to scatter around the corners and live like a happily ripping the country? How was it in the 91st? Huh?

    That's how it’s not just that ... It’s not for you to rip a vest on your chests — but I’ll kind of steal everything for the Motherland .. Everything is much more complicated .. And the best option is when the interests of all three components coincide .. In a first approximation - the Stalinist USSR ... But if not three, then at least two of them .. Otherwise, I’m afraid the choice will be however difficult ..

    As for Putin's Russia, everyone answers this question only himself. Whose interests does she represent ..

    I do not think that Putin is a patriot in my understanding of this term. For he, as head of state, undoubtedly represents the interests of the exclusively ruling class, the bourgeoisie. Whose interests, as we clearly see, differ radically from the interests of the people .. Thus, Putin is certainly for the state. Present .. And he is undoubtedly for the country - as a territory .. But with reservations. For the country-it would be nice to join, say, Donbass and our other territories temporarily scooped up by Ukrainians. But he does not do this? But is he for the people? It is extremely doubtful .. Especially in light of recent events. Thus, he actually poses a difficult choice for everyone - to take the side of one component of the Motherland against another ... Will the approvers go to crush the people for Putin? Everyone decides for himself. Is a man pushing his people a patriot? As for me - in no time. For for me, as a communist, the most important of the three components is undoubtedly my people. And not the state, and even not the country .. The state can and should be changed, a piece of the country can be temporarily abandoned, but we will not have another people by definition .. But for the loyalist, the state prevails. As the highest value. That's the difference between us ... So which of the two of us - then a patriot? AND?
  • depressant 18 February 2020 16: 59 New
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    Take China.
    Official position: Mao Zedong is 30% wrong, but 70% right! Without Mao, the Chinese say, there would be no modern China. A giant with 1,4 billion people on its shoulders. Not everyone agrees with the assessment, but try, tell the Chinese that Mao is bad. For each student, Comrade Mao is the Great Helmsman, and the current CCP is the continuation of his work ...
    Is it stupid? Not at all. It was foolish to pour slop on Stalin. Stupid, but productive for pouring in terms of justifying their own abomination. And now every Russian schoolchild knows that he is the heir to a shameful country, which means that he is to blame for the civilization of the planet. And how to live with such baggage? With subconscious guilt? The conclusion suggests itself: yes, just as our authorities live without shame. And then the bucket with slops will never be empty. The treasury is empty, patriotism is emaciated. For the most important part of patriotism is pride in their country, in its history. But in this scenario, pride will force the younger generation to turn their gaze to power. And so that the critical analysis does not take place - slops, only slops. "Stalin is a fanatic, and who are the Russians?"
  • Vladimir Mashkov 18 February 2020 17: 34 New
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    Talking about events in Ukraine, journalists always emphasize the same idea. We are not against the people, we are against the anti-people government.

    Either Alexander sincerely hovers in the clouds and does not see that many journalists hate fiercely and disdainfully all residents of Ukraine, calling them stupid Ukrainians, and urge everyone to do this, whether he is a little soul-twisting. But many have recently begun to say just that. What I am constantly fighting against, saying that it is NOT possible to equate the Ukrainian anti-fascist, anti-Maidan, and just a person who does not support Svidomites, pro-Westerners and Bandera - with the latter!

    And in order for the children to love their homeland and grow up as patriots, you just need to develop, accept the only right, balanced interpretation of Russian history (now there are a large number of them), teach children and live honestly themselves. Everything seems to be clear and simple ...

    As for Stalin, he, like every person, had a lot of everything, both good and bad. But he acted in the time pressure of his harsh time without prompting and looking back at someone's previous experience. And his good still clearly outweighs the negative. I think that if every person acted like him, then Russia would now flourish and would be beyond the reach of everyone else. And I do not agree with Alexander’s statement that "for the vast majority of them, Stalin is a tyrant and a murderer." Quite the contrary, polls show an increase in the authority of Joseph Vissarionovich in recent times, which is MOST.

    But the homeland, of course, is not all figures in power and, certainly, not thievish officials (also not all!).
  • 16112014nk 18 February 2020 17: 37 New
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    Love for the motherland is patriotism. And how to teach children this if the country is ruled by unpatriots? Who have dual citizenship, real estate, children, wives, finances in countries opposed to Russia?
    1. Ppetrov 20 February 2020 05: 59 New
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      Patriotism is a concept coined specifically for those who are oppressed. For those who oppress, this concept does not exist. Love for the motherland has nothing to do with this.
  • Campanella 18 February 2020 17: 45 New
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    It would not hurt to clarify the concept of homeland, it turns out that each has its own. Based on this, everyone decides whether he would defend her at the cost of life or not. After all, the homeland can be taken away, is a country for a slave in which he is a slave?
    And the country has already been taken away from the people at the moment, it has been appropriated by a bunch of officials. A people carrier of power bears nothing but criminal liability. And how can this misunderstanding be called the Motherland? It’s simpler to say that our homeland has already been occupied by an enemy who is impersonating legal authority. This is my value judgment. And God forbid, some will misunderstand.
    As for Stalin, even the title of Stalin’s apologist does not give him the right to judge Stalin as a tyrant. Based on what laws can it be judged? Modern? No! And according to Soviet laws, everything was in order. The current government can also be judged. According to Soviet laws, they are traitors to the motherland! And according to the present, respected businessmen, officials and top managers.
  • parusnik 18 February 2020 17: 54 New
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    He’s a friend who teaches history in technical school, out of despair ... you need to give grades, but homework is not done ... (I would have been taught history in school as he teaches), knowledge should be assessed .. as an alternative, I suggested topic Russia in the 18th century, to learn several poems by Russian poets of this period, and since they studied the Northern War, to learn the Poltava battle .. The question why they did not complete the task received an answer ... Yes, you? There are 110 lines ... as they say "the old man sat here" ... For the boys, he suggested making reports on the topic; what weapons did the Russian army use in the 18th century .. He was surprised that the Russian army won with laser weapons .. You may not believe what I bought for and sell ... And yet, he said he did some practical work and suggested indicating which moments (this is when the topic with the task of learning the Poltava battle did not go away) the Pushkin battle reflected the Poltava battle in the passage the Poltava battle ... everyone wrote what they found on the internet and the main thing in short .. Nobody looked for descriptions of the Poltava battle and moreover, compare it with the passage .. But at least the two did not instruct silt, he says, and I’m glad about it ... But somehow the students told him why you ask for knowledge of the map, history, it’s not geography ... I suggested to him, return to school .. no answer, first of all, there is more salary and some kind of creative freedom no papers and write less than at school .. Yes, and I don’t hear from parents how it was at school: our children don’t need a story ... And you need knowledge ...
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    Learn to love the homeland? She can be loved as a caring mother from the cradle. Do not teach, do not force impossible.

    Music by V. Basner
    Words M. Matusovsky
    How to start
    Homeland
    From the picture in your letter
    With good and faithful comrades
    Living in a nearby yard
    Or maybe it starts
    From the song that our mother sang to us
    Since in any tests
    We do not take anyone away
    How to start
    Homeland
    From the cherished bench at the gate
    From the same birch tree in the field
    Bending the wind, it grows
    Or maybe it starts
    Since the spring funeral of the starling
    And from this road country
    Which can not see the end
    How to start
    Homeland

    WITH…
    Source: Musixmatch
    1. Ppetrov 20 February 2020 05: 56 New
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      This is a Soviet song. Now it’s a completely different matter.
  • depressant 18 February 2020 18: 02 New
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    And let's take off the pink glasses already.
    In the few wealthy families, loyal opportunists grow up, initially having decent starting conditions. In beggar families, children of varying degrees of bitterness with zero starting potential are often found. They are fertile ground for radical moods. Do you think the case of the Kerch shooter is unique? Since 2018, more than 50 teenage attacks on schools have been suppressed. The FSB found 150 radical youth communities (50 thousand people) on the Web. The activities of 260 propagandists of radical ideas were suppressed. Preventive conversations were conducted with 7 thousand adolescents. I’m wondering what they were talking about?
    And just in Kerch, the FSB detained a group of teenagers who, having purchased explosives on the Internet, were testing its effect - attention! - on pets. In order to carry out a terrorist attack at school.
    School ... A microcosm in which future rich and future poor face with full understanding of who will be who.
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 08: 07 New
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      Yes, the real world of adults is tough. But nothing is predetermined at school yet - study, strive - and you will succeed. You need to set an impulse and put faith in your own strength: it will be difficult, but everything depends only on you. A simple philosophy, but our generation has grown on it. Unfortunately, in our midst the seeds of parasitic social infantilism and dependency sprouted. This is especially noticeable in military service - the boys simply do not know how to communicate with their own kind, equal. Hence the hazing.
    2. Ppetrov 20 February 2020 05: 55 New
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      I think that the step that logically follows from your reasoning is separate education for the rich and the poor?
      1. Victor N 20 February 2020 08: 26 New
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        I believe that it is necessary to create special conditions for the capable and persistent. Initially, equal conditions are the same for everyone. And then step-by-step selection, as it always has been: elementary school, eight-year-old (seven-year-old), then division - who is in vocational school, who is in technical school, who is in a regular or specialized school, and then to universities of different prestige levels, including foreign ones. The state and social status of parents in the educational process has always been present, but this inequality compensated the state as much as possible. Institutions of support for the gifted have always been, but perhaps they should be systematically adjusted - this is for specialists.
        BUT INITIAL - the aspiration and will of the learner, without this in any way.
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          not just an eight-year-old, but a five-four-year-old. and classes of 10-12 people. Now in schools, children are overexposed and stupid.
  • samarin1969 18 February 2020 18: 32 New
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    Dear author, a little exaggerating. In addition to Stalin, and to the enemies of the motherland - the modern student is "no way", indifferent. For him, Hitler, homeland. Stalin is an abstraction. Children do not experience any emotions in relation to the story.
    Patriotism is brought up by affairs of the family, state, and contemporaries. And so that the Motherland goes from Victory to Victory, And so that healthy ambitious people make a career.
    Otherwise, the word is powerless.

    ps Children are not interested in history, and consider it normal. 30% do not even know the percentages in high school: who fought with whom in the Second World War. Almost everyone knows about Lenin and Stalin. But for them these are obscure people about whom "dad speaks."
    The thousand-year history of Russia is generally known vaguely, confused (I checked today the 11th grade graduates). For them, it’s like a joke - I read it, amazed, told ... and completely forgot it.
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 08: 28 New
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      Teaching is not easy. We must be able to interest - try. Put the bitter and brazen in place. Here comes the day of the defender of the fatherland. Congratulate indiscriminately all males. And it is necessary to highlight those who really served. To form a cult of real men, a caste of defenders, contempt for those who are slanting and incapable. Each of us can: not drink at this holiday with those who have not served. In the history of mass cases of delightful heroism, one must be able to file. I didn’t “drive in” right away when I heard about Klimov’s comedian: with seventeen fighters, I DRAWN a gang of 250 Basmachis, defeated it, and was killed. I didn’t hide, did not back down, but I caught up with it! Many years ago he spoke at a bachelor party, now when meeting with friends we often remember, and 23 on the Day of the border guard - without fail.
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    1. The homeland is inseparable from the state, and officials, priests, cops, gayts, tax inspectors and all others, causing burning hatred among our people, are an integral part of the people.
    2. A person who does not love his homeland, his people in all its diversity, with all the advantages and disadvantages is not able to teach his child love for the homeland. And no one will do it instead.
    3. A person who is not an authority for his child is not able to teach him anything at all. It’s like a commander who does not have authority over subordinates.
    Strange article. It seems that the author has carved himself.
    1. Victor N 19 February 2020 08: 30 New
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      In this topic, we are all partly, or even completely, to blame.
      1. Ppetrov 20 February 2020 05: 53 New
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        Victor, then pay and repent)
        1. Victor N 20 February 2020 08: 42 New
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          They do not pay for it, but pay. But it is necessary to identify and eliminate errors.
  • Radikal 18 February 2020 22: 25 New
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    Who should write this tutorial?
    Irina Gadzhievna?
    She finished with a pole, now she’ll bring the Constitution in order and then write a history book?

    wassat wassat wassat good Class! hi
  • Nitarius 19 February 2020 06: 01 New
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    we must work tirelessly that's for sure!
  • Ppetrov 19 February 2020 06: 40 New
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    Good try, capitalists, but no) Defend your palaces and yachts yourself. You are the most ingenious, the most efficient and the most beautiful - that’s the chance to prove yourself)) We, ordinary people, have nothing to share with other same people. This is not our war.
    And to respect the Motherland can only be taught in one way: by socializing the means of production and making high-quality and affordable education, medicine, science and culture.
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  • 2 Level Advisor 19 February 2020 15: 16 New
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    Quote: Den717

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    No dear man, this is exactly what is called a "hidden" tax ..

    I am not a fan of looking for flies in sour cream. There is a "calculation" in which everything that is necessary is indicated. What is accrued, what is withheld. When the numbers correspond to those in the contract, I am calm. If there are deviations, then there is something to show to the other side.

    Well, since you are telling, it’s easier to live of course .. don’t think about anything, don’t think about what’s good and what’s not so good in the country ... take it in fact .. everything is pragmatic / cynical .. usually this philosophy works so far so good in life ..
    I don’t have the right to tell you, but frankly I don’t understand why you need a VO, an analytic site in the first place, and analytics as a rule is not reinforced concrete with facts, since this is the result of the analysis, forecast, probability, calculation, thoughts ..
    But I note that your point of view is personally understandable and interesting to me, although I partially agree with it ..
  • Domobran 19 February 2020 16: 33 New
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    And what's wrong with nationalism? In love and care for your nation?
    1. Ppetrov 20 February 2020 05: 51 New
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      Hitler said in 1933
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        Nationalism and Nazism are not the same thing.
  • iouris 20 February 2020 13: 13 New
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    Fatherland - where the current account. By the way, where does the girl Liza Peskova love her Motherland now?
  • Imperial Technocrat 20 February 2020 18: 04 New
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    Another cry of Yaroslavna
  • Dmitriyag 21 February 2020 16: 25 New
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    The article is not intended, everyone has their own opinion, their own truth. To protect someone else’s good, and then also hunch over 3 kopecks. There is no law or power everywhere and everywhere. They wanted to give, they wanted to take it away, There is no future. (- two pipes and everything, we suffer losses, China stood up ...) They have their homeland, where their money is, and we are a means to achieve their goals (if possible for free.)
  • Archon 25 February 2020 07: 42 New
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    These birch, land, house do not belong to me, it's not mine. And children can go wherever they want, because it is their choice and not be chained to a birch by any chains.
    What really belongs - life experience and knowledge, work skills, craftsmanship - is what is valued and respected throughout the world. And how to protect them?
    It is better to focus not on the abstract homeland, but on elementary politeness, respect for other people and the environment. And then we will continue to see garbage, rudeness, dog feces on the roads and news about battered teachers and other nonsense.
    We need to go into the future, and not pick the bones of the past.