India buys billions of new fighter


One of the largest deals in the military segment completed aviation. The Indian Air Force acquired 83 single-engine Tejas fighters with an accompanying service package from the local corporation Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).


At the same time, the contract value decreased from the initial 56 to 500 crore ($ 39 billion, $ 000 million per unit). This reduction occurred after a year of bickering between the military department and the economic conglomerate.

The Ministry of Defense and the Air Force were initially shocked at the sky-high price that HAL demanded for the production of 83 Tejas Mark-1A aircraft, along with a package of maintenance and infrastructure development

- writes The Times of India.

Acquired aircraft belonging to the new model should have an engine with adequate maintainability, radar with AFAR, the ability to refuel in the air and carry long-range missiles such as BVR (outside the visual range) and advanced electronic warfare to "jam" enemy radars and missiles. And all this has yet to be done.

Tejas Mark-1A flight tests, we hope, will be completed by 2022

- explained one of the sources of the publication.

The country's air force seeks to compensate for the sharp reduction in the number of fighter squadrons (each of which includes 18 aircraft). Instead of the 40 required by the defense plan, their number is reduced to 30. Thanks to Tejas, the Indian military intends to partially fill this gap.

At the same time, French Rafale machines are being delivered in parallel: a total of 36 units were ordered with a total value of 59,000 crore ($ 8,27 billion) with delivery by April 2022.
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  1. bald 18 February 2020 00: 39 New
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    Although through the back seat, but a little, a little scrambles. D
  2. Mountain shooter 18 February 2020 00: 49 New
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    Does it still fly? Or not yet? But the contract is already there !!! They adopted it?
    1. TermNachTer 18 February 2020 20: 28 New
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      To fly, it flies, but it is necessary to understand so far without electronic filling. But when they shove it into it, all that the Indian air - the marshals want - then we'll see.
  3. Mathafaka 18 February 2020 00: 53 New
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    8 billion for 36 Rafale'y? So it seems like the most expensive is the F 35.
    1. voyaka uh 18 February 2020 00: 58 New
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      Cheaper F-35 only Gripen and Russian fighters.
    2. Chigi 18 February 2020 01: 52 New
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      $ 8 billion for 36 Rafals is 229 million apiece. Not expensive. Let them buy it, then "we can exchange it."
      1. Butchcassidy 18 February 2020 09: 46 New
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        I would like to be an Indian ensign general))) Well, what kind of fuel and lubricants nomenclature do they have, and spare parts? Yes, the Ukrainian Soviet ensign from jokes nervously smokes aside compared to an Indian colleague who has such a "zoo" of different techniques!))
  4. Tuzik 18 February 2020 01: 24 New
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    It looks like a mirage. Together with the paddlers developed?
    1. Grigory_45 18 February 2020 14: 20 New
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      Quote: Tuzik
      It looks like a mirage. Together with the paddlers developed?

      The formation of the appearance of the aircraft was carried out with the involvement of the French company Dassault, which left its mark on the aerodynamic layout of the car. The tailless scheme was chosen, well worked out on Mirage family aircraft.
      1. Tuzik 18 February 2020 14: 30 New
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        Immediately there is not only a “tailless tail” but also without PGO and one engine. In addition to the Mirage, I don’t remember anything like that.
        1. Grigory_45 18 February 2020 14: 33 New
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          Quote: Tuzik
          "tailless" but also without PGO and one engine. Besides Mirage, I don’t remember anything like that.

          and the MiG-21 ??? Single-engine tailless with a triangular wing, and without PGO)
          1. Tuzik 18 February 2020 14: 36 New
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            Our kind of all "tailings"
            1. svp67 18 February 2020 19: 30 New
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              Quote: Tuzik
              Our kind of all "tailings"

              You don’t believe the “expert” on all issues ... In vain, in vain ... He will not tell you such a thing. Just have time to remove the "noodles" from the ears
          2. svp67 18 February 2020 19: 26 New
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            Quote: Gregory_45
            and the MiG-21 ??? Single-engine tailless with a triangular wing, and without PGO)

            Could not make a dumber comment? With what fright, Mr. Expert MiG-21 suddenly became tailless?

            The only plane was from this family, and it was made at the request of Tupolev to test controllability with a wing similar to the promising Tu-144.

            You seem to understand airplanes as well as tanks ... Not like that.
            P / S: Yes, I expect from you the next "minuses", it seems this is the only thing that lacks your intelligence and knowledge ...
            1. Tuzik 18 February 2020 21: 14 New
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              Wow, I haven’t seen such an airplane. For the 144th I forgot when I was sorting through my head. And besides the Tu-144 we still have a "tailless"?
              1. svp67 19 February 2020 00: 59 New
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                Quote: Tuzik
                And besides the Tu-144 we still have a "tailless"?

                In the history of the aircraft industry of the USSR - of course, the pre-war planes BOK-5, BOK-6, K-12, SAM-9, KhAI-3, Cheranovsky — BEACH aircraft and, of course, our Spirals - Mig-105.11 and Buran
                Quote: Tuzik
                Wow, I haven’t seen such an airplane.


                A T-4 Dry?

                1. mmaxx 19 February 2020 06: 10 New
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                  T-4 in the picture is already a duck.
                  1. svp67 19 February 2020 09: 57 New
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                    Quote: mmaxx
                    T-4 in the picture is already a duck.

                    Yes, this is a duck pattern, but also a tailless
                    Quote: svp67
                    aircraft Cheranovsky - Beach

                    Our aircraft designer is little known, but it is a pity, he did a lot for the development of "flying wings with us." But during the war he led the company that produced the wooden tail parts of the fuselages of the Il-2 attack aircraft. About which he joked that the irony was that he had been designing and creating aircraft "without tails" all his life, and was forced to engage in the production of tails, without aircraft ... wink
                    1. Tuzik 19 February 2020 12: 20 New
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                      Thanks for the interesting info, as I understand it, these are all piece experimental aircraft. I remember the T-4 contest did not pass. (in range?), but for the planes of Cheranovsky I hear for the first time. Striped his idea of ​​"flying wing" stole? )
                      1. svp67 19 February 2020 19: 06 New
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                        Quote: Tuzik
                        Striped his idea of ​​"flying wing" stole? )

                        Throw you ... How can you "steal" that which, in fact, begs itself. The Germans had great tailless designs ...
                        This one was generally not visible to the radar ....
                      2. Tuzik 19 February 2020 20: 13 New
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                        Handsome) And what is the name of this grandfather V-2? )
                      3. svp67 19 February 2020 20: 28 New
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                        Quote: Tuzik
                        Handsome) And what is the name of this grandfather V-2? )

                        Brothers Horten brothers airplane ... Ho 229 ... Got to the Americans, the company "Northrop"
                      4. Tuzik 20 February 2020 20: 35 New
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                        I revered a little for it, the Americans recognize the Horten brothers as geniuses who simultaneously solved two problems in this plane at once, they restore the surviving copy to the museum. Well done, and brothers and stripes.
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  • EvilLion 18 February 2020 15: 10 New
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    No, most likely, they wanted to minimize drag and maximize the angular velocity of the roll, even at the cost of vertical maneuverability, for which tailless is well suited.
  • Pavel57 18 February 2020 02: 45 New
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    But yours. For the second echelon will do.
  • Russian_man 18 February 2020 03: 38 New
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    Here is India on the right track. They will start with these one-engine freaks, but in the end they will get something quite acceptable. ... But this is if the dances and songs stop ... both for us and, most importantly, for the rest.
    1. adept666 18 February 2020 11: 42 New
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      They will start with these one-engine freaks

      They will finish it with them ... because they started building the EMNIP from the age of 83, but they never built anything of their own except the glider, and even that one I already saw somewhere what
      1. Russian_man 18 February 2020 15: 48 New
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        you forgot that there are too many of them, TOO ... to be always behind. And this is not all ... the conditions of the problem. Therefore, your answer based on past statistics is not appropriate.
        1. sharp-lad 19 February 2020 01: 38 New
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          Are you hinting at the quantity turning into quality? I'm afraid this does not happen often. hi
          1. Russian_man 19 February 2020 18: 37 New
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            The transitional link that you have designated is governed by culture and historical heritage. The Indians had the intelligence and strength to drive the British away and make sure that they no longer returned in any form. The history of India and its people will dispel your fears, read at your leisure. For what you called, they only need an incentive, everything else is already there. Less music and dancing. They need to fight a little ... but seriously.
        2. adept666 20 February 2020 11: 10 New
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          you forgot that there are too many of them, TOO ...

          Why would you? I remember perfectly.
          to be always behind.

          Well, if they change their structure of society, then ... maybe, but not in this century for sure smile
          Therefore, your answer based on past statistics is not appropriate.

          And who told you about the statistics? My answer is based on knowledge of the internal political and social structure of society. In such cases, porridge cannot be cooked.
          1. Russian_man 20 February 2020 14: 36 New
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            Well, my friend said "... spring will show who where ... miscalculated"
  • Thrifty 18 February 2020 05: 37 New
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    Could for a long time under license start production of the Su35, which would be much cheaper than this aircraft, which is very similar to a third-generation fighter aircraft.
    1. antivirus 18 February 2020 05: 50 New
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      its production is closer to the wallet than to pay to Moscow or NATO.
      1. EvilLion 18 February 2020 09: 09 New
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        While they get this at a price of 2/3 of the export price of the Su-30MKI. In principle, if we hadn’t fooled around and made at least one fundamental decision for 50 years, we could have “drying” at a discount, plus their own production.
        1. antivirus 18 February 2020 21: 15 New
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          I do not know the subtleties of the summer nature of (+ production technology) Su-MiG-Mirage-F-China.
          It is enough for the United States to reduce the sales of the Russian Federation to India at the expense of ANY other suppliers.
  • rotmistr60 18 February 2020 05: 39 New
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    the reduction occurred after a year of bickering between the military department and the economic conglomerate.
    I haven’t been able to agree for years in my own country, but what can we say about foreign purchases.
  • Pecheneg 18 February 2020 06: 28 New
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    Hindus need to learn from the experience of the Chinese, there are technical and technological bases, especially their IT specialists are among the best in the world.
  • Adimius38 18 February 2020 06: 32 New
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    Well, as a light fighter comes down, Russia has nothing to offer in this class. We have a complete failure with light single-engine fighters
    1. EvilLion 18 February 2020 09: 09 New
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      Because nobody buys them.
      1. V.I.P. 18 February 2020 10: 33 New
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        Yes ? And F-16, Grippen, FC-1 (JF-17), J-10, FA-50 do not buy? ... ... It would be something similar in the Russian Federation (MiG-21, but at the modern level) would be bought. There are countries who need a single-engine aircraft, inexpensive to maintain and cost, with modern radars and weapons. Not everyone needs and can afford the pepelats with a long range. Most countries are smaller than individual Russian regions ...
        1. EnGenius 18 February 2020 18: 31 New
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          They will not buy Chinese in life, get involved! Gripen is a direct competitor and quite expensive, the Swedes will not give a license for production.
        2. EvilLion 22 February 2020 09: 52 New
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          The first mistake, the F-16 started with an empty weight of 7.5 tons, but because it is not an ultralight fighter of the "flu" class, and even more so, the MiG-21. Like the Mirage-2000 with a similar dimension. Current versions of the F-16 have an empty weight of 9 tons or more. Similar to the J-10, which is not less than 8.8 tons and a direct analogue of the MiG-29, only in which case, the MiG-29 can still sit on one engine, and to the single engine Khan.

          The second mistake is Gripen - a Swedish aircraft for Sweden, its export deliveries are insignificant. Similarly, the KAI T-50 and its variant, including the FA-50 is a Korean aircraft for Korea, a small number of cars have been exported. To develop a fundamentally new aircraft, only to sell it in the amount of 100-200 copies, would cost no less than projects such as the Su-34 with the Su-35 and MiG-35, which are built on the basis of already well-developed machines. It’s just that countries the size of Russian regions don’t have money to buy anything there. Czechs "flu" generally leased.
      2. Grigory_45 18 February 2020 14: 24 New
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        Quote: EvilLion
        Because nobody buys them

        you're not right. Fighters such as F-16, Grippen have their own stable market. These are relatively inexpensive (both by themselves and in operation), small light cars. For small states - that’s it. Conceptually, “Tejas” is close to the latest MiG-21 and “Grippen”
        1. EvilLion 22 February 2020 10: 06 New
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          F-16 and flu are two different things, see above. And the new "flu" will be even larger with the engine already from the "superhornet." And most of all they buy just full-fledged fighters with an empty weight of 9-11 tons, and not a trifle.
      3. Grigory_78 22 February 2020 09: 33 New
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        Does Russia have single-engine fighters that can be offered for sale? How can they be bought if they are not in principle?
        This can be successfully explained by the lack of portable anti-gravity devices in Russia. Nobody buys them, right? Therefore, they do not exist, and not because we cannot make them.
    2. Every 18 February 2020 15: 34 New
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      Quote: Adimius38
      Well, as a light fighter comes down, Russia has nothing to offer in this class. We have a complete failure with light single-engine fighters

      And what is the failure? Single-engine fighters were not developed at all. Although they could. But initially, the two motor concept was chosen, since they considered it safer.
      Failure is when they tried, but failed.
  • Private-K 18 February 2020 08: 33 New
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    The Indian Air Force acquired 83 single-engine Tejas fighters with an accompanying service package from the local Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) corporation.

    That is, speaking the Russian language, LLC "Indian Aeronautics" (who said "Cooperative" Lake "?) repeat will supply some fighter aircraft in exchange for the good old MiG-21.
    Crap of course. And corruption. But before we condemn, let's go into the position of the Indostans: they need to save face by releasing at least something of their own for the Armed Forces. hi
    1. Grigory_45 18 February 2020 14: 27 New
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      Quote: Private-K
      in exchange for the good old MiG-21.

      not only to replace the MiG-21, the Tejas must also go to the Navy to replace the Harriers
  • Pastor 18 February 2020 08: 37 New
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    Judging by this information, the aircraft is raw and they have yet to develop all this. Then it’s clear why the price was immediately high. And the fact that no one will do anything in the end explains the price reduction.
  • Paul Siebert 18 February 2020 09: 09 New
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    I am not at all complex about the construction of India's own aircraft.
    This is the normal pursuit of any developed country. Not bought from us?
    We’ll build more planes for our linear units!
    But where does this name come from - Tejas?
    Apparently the decision to replace the air force fleet was made by old metallers, lovers of the immortal ZZ-Top.
    They had such an album. Released in 1976. Translated - Texas.
    How can one not think about the "soft power" of America ... wink
    1. Piramidon 18 February 2020 09: 32 New
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      Quote: Paul Siebert
      But where does this name come from - Tejas?

      Tejas (Sanskrit: तेजस् (inf.): "Diamond"
  • Dedok 18 February 2020 09: 30 New
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    Are we discussing the performance characteristics of purchased machines or the inability to negotiate our managers?
  • Sevastiec 18 February 2020 09: 53 New
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    The great aviation power, downstairs declared: Su-57-junk and bought this megapapelats laughing
    1. Sancho_SP 18 February 2020 14: 58 New
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      And in many ways she did the right thing. Both those and others will work out a resource in exercises and will be cut into metal. So it's better to leave the loot in the country.
  • Afghan1979 18 February 2020 10: 27 New
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    Iindians deliver to the west, incl. and in the states, a significant amount of its products. They can no longer pay with normal goods and the Indians are doing the right thing. By acquiring their military equipment they recapture their money. Nothing personal just business. Well, their generals need to earn money on kickbacks because not a single contract for arms and military equipment in the whole world can do without it. I know not by hearsay.
  • qaz
    qaz 18 February 2020 10: 59 New
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    TECH SPECS
    Crew: 1 people
    Length: 13,2 m
    Wingspan: 8,2 m
    Height: 4,4 m
    Wing area: 37,5 m²
    Wing Extension Ratio: 1,8
    Empty weight: 5500 kg
    Normal take-off weight: 12 500 kg
    Maximum takeoff weight: 15 500 kg
    Fuel tank capacity: 3000 L (+ 4000 (5 × 800) L or 3600 (3 × 1200) L in PTB)

    Engines:
    1 × TRDF General Electric F-404-GE-IN20 (HAL Tejas Mk.1) / 1 × TRDF General Electric F414-GE-INS6 (HAL Tejas Mk.2)
    Thrust max: 1 × 53,9 kN (F-404-GE-IN20)
    Afterburner thrust: 1 × 89,8 kN (F-404-GE-IN20) / 1 × 98,0 kN (F414-GE-INS6)
    Flight characteristics
    Maximum speed: 1920 km / h (M = 1,8)
    Practical range: 2000 km
    Flight duration: 2,3 hours (without refueling)
    Ceiling: 15 950 m
    Wing load: depending on the load: from 330 to 410 kg / m²
    Thrust-to-weight ratio: 0,73
    Maximum operating overload: + 8,0 / -3,5 g

    weaponry
    Cannon: 1 × 23-mm double-barreled gun GSh-23 (220 shells)
    Suspension points: 8 (3 under each console, central body and one left under the fuselage for containers with equipment)
    Combat load: 4000 kg of various weapons:
    air-to-air missiles: Astra, P-77 and P-73
    anti-ship missiles, guided and free-fall bombs, NAR
    1. certero 18 February 2020 12: 37 New
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      That is, in their fighter engine is not Indian?
      1. Sevastiec 19 February 2020 05: 52 New
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        Of course not. You know how aircraft engineers say: making an engine for an airplane is much harder than making an airplane. Even the Chinese fly on ours ...
    2. Maxwrx 18 February 2020 13: 06 New
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      In general, it turns out a normal bomber, of course it’s better for him not to enter into an air battle for this, the su-30. But in the place of the Indians, I would buy f-16
  • certero 18 February 2020 12: 36 New
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    It’s even scary to think how India will provide this whole zoo in case of military operations. French Russian and local aircraft - poor Indian logistics
    1. Shuttle 18 February 2020 14: 42 New
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      Quote: certero
      It’s even scary to think how India will provide this whole zoo in case of military operations. French Russian and local aircraft - poor Indian logistics

      There are 28 states and 9 union territories in India. Divide among themselves and all matters.
      There are people and a half yard of human souls. And the territory is not the smallest on this continent.
      1. Sergej1972 19 February 2020 20: 19 New
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        Their states and territories have nothing to do with military issues.
        1. Shuttle 20 February 2020 06: 47 New
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          Quote: Sergej1972
          Their states and territories have nothing to do with military issues.

          Everything in the country is strongly related to military issues. Even ethno-religious division.
          https://warspot.ru/6636-dogry-kumaony-garhvaly
  • Vic Balac 18 February 2020 14: 28 New
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    And why they do not want to deal with the Russian Federation?
  • garik77 18 February 2020 15: 56 New
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    Where is corruption when purchasing in full growth! Indian UG at the prices of a normal airplane. How many ministers and deputies interestingly became dollar millionaires ?! laughing
    1. mmaxx 19 February 2020 06: 16 New
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      And they do not care. They believe that everything should be done in their own country. Let it be expensive. They buy licenses and overpay for everything 2-3 times. But then everything is done in India. People work. So here they are. And given the availability of castes, money goes to those to whom they always got, and, in general, should get it. What kind of corruption? Such words are not even understood there.
      1. Sergej1972 19 February 2020 20: 20 New
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        Officially there are no castes there. Rather, legally all residents are equal.
  • Bryanskiy_Volk 18 February 2020 17: 34 New
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    Is this an incorrect article translation or normal Indian practice? As follows from the foregoing, the contract has already been signed, but flight tests will only be completed in two years. Strange is all ...))
  • Diverter 18 February 2020 18: 16 New
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    Its certainly good. But! Hindus could not do their normal car. The ship cannot. There is no civilian airplane. Therefore, a military aircraft looks like the predecessor of Mig 21)))
  • Eug
    Eug 18 February 2020 19: 22 New
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    Since Russia does not have airplanes of this class, it was necessary to offer help and advice, to participate in the design in order to “saturate” the Ross aircraft being created as much as possible. technologies, materials, parts, components, assemblies and components. The use of products standardized with those on MiGs and Sukhoi, especially those made in India, would facilitate and reduce the cost of logistics. With joint design, the aircraft could have turned out to be more interesting ...
  • dima314 18 February 2020 19: 24 New
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    let's see how they fall ...
    1. Diverter 18 February 2020 19: 30 New
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      systematically, how else))
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  • PLOHICH56 18 February 2020 22: 42 New
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    Well and in vain! RUSSIAN at times better. THEN UNDERSTAND. BUT THE TRAIN WILL LEAVE !!!
    1. mmaxx 19 February 2020 06: 20 New
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      The question is that they don’t need the best. To scare the neighbors they have. They bought. Now we need to somehow develop our aircraft industry. As they can, they develop it.
      True, knowing how, I will say that the Indians have had patience for centuries. An ancient country, what to take from them.
  • kytx 19 February 2020 05: 47 New
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    Is the engine interesting and yours?
    And then even the Chinese do not really succeed so far, I really hardly believe Indians.
  • Maks1995 19 February 2020 10: 31 New
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    Bullshit is all that.
    The main thing - India finally made its own fighter, and will abandon ours ...

    And here, China has already overtaken us in arms sales ...
  • certero 19 February 2020 11: 28 New
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    Quote: mmaxx
    To scare the neighbors they have.

    Somehow I somehow doubt that the Chinese will be scared. Pakistan too
  • Izzy Gubinstein 19 February 2020 18: 02 New
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    Zionism hydra prepares war India VS China