Polish media: T-90 tank became the shock force of Syrian fighters

The successful offensive of the Syrian army has attracted the attention of world media. The new military campaign of Damascus did not bypass the Polish press. In particular, the publication Defense24 decided to prove itself in the analysis of the combat situation.

According to him, the regime of Bashar al-Assad is conducting the “Atonement” operation, the purpose of which is to restore full control over the province of Idlib, as well as defeating and eliminating the pro-Turkish militia of the rebels in the area. Now the second phase of a massive attack by the SAA has begun, the main blow of which is aimed at the western approaches to Aleppo.

At the same time, during the conduct of hostilities, the Syrian units encountered the striking force of the militants - a tank T-90 According to Defense24, this machine entered the country from the reserves of the Russian army as part of the CAA's military assistance.

Meanwhile, on February 2, during the first phase of the fighting south of the suburbs of Aleppo in the village of Zitan, pro-Turkish militants captured the T-90 tank

- notes the publication, indicating that this happened during the local counterattack of the rebels.

It refers to a photo material available on social networks, which shows that “the captured tank was found abandoned in an improvised depot of the regime’s troops”. Together with him in the hands of the jihadists were T-62, T-72 and BMP-1.

According to Defense24, now the T-90 is in the service of the militants and is actively used as striking force in one of the mechanized groups of armored vehicles, which along with it consists of several BMP-1, armored personnel carriers M113 and BTR-60.

The incredibly competent SyAA managed to lose a T-90 in South # Aleppo Zaytan

Don't usually post armor but these are rather rare. pic.twitter.com/xGTcOdmRVK

- Cᴀʟɪʙʀᴇ Oʙsᴄᴜʀᴀ (@CalibreObscura) February 2, 2020

Turkish-backed factions and HTS use T-90 against SAA pic.twitter.com/VRQ3iNDj2M

- Shota Sabauri (@TheDeadDistrict) February 16, 2020

Comments

[Victor_B]

On February 2, during the first phase of the fighting south of Aleppo suburbs in the village of Zitan, pro-Turkish militants captured the T-90 tank

What a joy!
For the Poles. And not only.
Even our liberals have already howled.

[Chigi]

And don't say just 1 T-90 is firepower

At the same time, during the conduct of hostilities, the Syrian units encountered the striking force of the militants - the T-90 tank

The power that the barmaley gathered

According to Defense24, now the T-90 is in the service of the militants and is actively used as striking force in one of the mechanized groups of armored vehicles, which along with it consists of several BMP-1, armored personnel carriers M113 and BTR-60.

Several more "Cornets" and one raid of the Russian Aerospace Forces and detachments of barmaley will be deprived of mechanized support

[Geniuses]

T-90 tank became the shock force of the Syrian fighters

Soon it will be their grave, if not already!

[Incvizitor]

only 1 T-90 is firepower

especially for dwarf nedostrana, who do not have their own tanks

[g1v2]

Let them howl. Last time, on two captured T90s, the militants hurricane so that they made him a great advertisement. After our troops entered Syria and the start of T90 deliveries, 4 countries bought from us. Tch maybe someone else will buy. And sooner or later, our tank and the Syrians will burn or beat the tank. Where will it go from the remains of Idlib?

[Chigi]

The ammunition will end and drop. Or the Russian VKS will be burned.

[Spektr]

The prodigal T-90 returned home.

[vkl.47]

They will have this tank until the first mi-28nm. Any nut-drying will cut it.

[Prahlad]

Nothing like this ! Scolding our tanks is strong!

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Victor_B

What a joy!
For the Poles.

bandits envy terrorists !!!

[loki565]

T-90 tank became the shock force of the Syrian fighters

[kapitan92]

The amateurish article counting on the Polish inhabitant.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: kapitan92

The amateurish article counting on the Polish inhabitant.

the average man does not shine with intelligence !!!

[Mountain shooter]

The fact that the Syrian tankers abandoned a serviceable tank, and even such a tank, is difficult to assess with censored words ...
Well, the fact that this tank will really affect the course of battles - well, just about anything ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

threw a serviceable tank, and even one like that,

Well, the circumstances under which the given combat unit was lost matter here. Psheki clarify that he was captured "in storage" (in the box?). It could well have been "dry" (they were expecting the delivery of fuels and lubricants), but then the bearded rushed, and the Assad men had to retreat, abandoning the equipment. Exclusively as an option, but this is not certain.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Paranoid50

that he was captured "in the vault" (in the box?)

Together with him in the hands of the jihadists were T-62, T-72 and BMP-1.

And also, imported suede jackets, three pieces, domestic silver cigarette cases, also three. It seems that the Poles at random listed the types of Russian technology that they could remember ..

[Rostislav]

Can't put a grenade in the ammunition? Is it better to leave serviceable equipment to the enemy? So that he will then 125 mm. "thanked"?

[Romka47]

I described below how "it would be", that is, they did not run from the tank.

[Romka47]

They wrote like this (for which I bought it for that I sold it) when the bangs rushed, the tank stood in the box, properly loaded and with fuel, but the crew was separate (they were not going to advance, they did not wait for the attack), and when the crew started quickly jumped into places ... in the first the same Toyota and fled. Well, how can you judge whether there was a chance to reach the tank or at the "boxing" infantry of the beardhogs was no longer recognizable. Or maybe he read (and wrote here to you) also a duck.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Romka47

Well, how can I judge

Yes, only versions.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

There, the militants in Idlib still had a couple of Leopards 2 lit up not so long ago, but nothing was heard about them.

Conversely, they’ve surpassed Turkey so that the troops of Syria and Russia do not get it.

Eh, it would be nice, Leopard 2 trophy.

[Chigi]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Eh, it would be nice, Leopard 2 trophy.

On May 9, next to a tiger and a panther, it would be gorgeous to put it!

[KCA]

And to check its real resistance against our BOPS, which only do what they call worthless and useless against the protection of Abrashek and Leo, similar to 100500mm homogeneous armor

[In..]

Yes, this tank is a tank for all tanks, even the barmalei recognize this ...

[Sarcasm]

Among the militants there are enough people from the former Syrian army and from the exSSSR who are familiar with the T-72 / -90 family, plus the Turks know these tanks as the back of their hand.
A tank is like a tank, well, it’s captured, everything happens, in my memory this is at least the second T-90A that fell into the hands of Assad’s opponents ...
The tank itself is 38-50 tons of scrap metal. In skillful hands, the T-55 or T-60 can do a lot of trouble to the pro-Assad forces, and without the presence of a crew and a head from the one who will give him orders, the T-90A will not help. Militants are militants, ideology is an ideology, you can call them barmaley, etc., but war is, first of all, specialists and the level of training of personnel from ANY side, be it a regular army or an illegal armed group. If the militants still have enough specialists, or in the case of the pro-Turkish groups there are Turkish ones, as we now say, "they are not there," then the T-90 and other heavy equipment, which Assad so generously shared, potentially can create many problems for the forces acting on his side.

PS So if tomorrow there are footage of unsuccessful attempts to knock out this T-90A by the Iranians, Hezbollah and other "SAA units" on the network tomorrow, and even he will roll them off - just a good advertisement of our military-industrial complex products. "Nothing personal" - as they say ...

[Chigi]

Quote: Sarkazm

but the war is primarily specialists and the level of training of personnel of ANY of the parties, whether it be a regular army, or an illegal armed formation

There are very few trained personnel on the T-90. Unfortunately, he entered the Russian troops late.
But ATGM operators and VKS pilots are trained in sufficient numbers.
1 tank ... will be spread easily without CAA and without Iranians.

[Sarcasm]

T-90A development of the T-72, an experienced crew who mastered and knows the T-72, will cope with it without problems.

[Russian_man]

Yes, you write everything correctly. ... but .. you forgot about the media and their ability to change the scale of the events covered. This portal is also a media tool.

[Russian_man]

Shameful somehow. T-90 versus T-90 is of course cool, but when the Abrams have nothing to do with ... it's kind of shameful. Image damage is obtained. It seems like a good tank, but fools make it, because everyone has it, and therefore there is no sense in it. Nakajima vs. Nakajima and both Musashimaru, and everyone else just watches how this stupidity ends. I think it would be more correct to end this anti-advertising campaign - for example, to test a couple of new tele-targeting bombs. The main thing is that the advantage of striking power over armor is total, so that nothing can be understood, so that there is no competition between armor and a projectile. Then the image of the T-90 tank will not suffer, but rather rise. ... Hurry, would ... guess something, or someone suggested. I suppose that after such a "show" the active use of the T-90 by militants will immediately turn into passive without a crew and ammunition. They need to make a zapadlo to be afraid to even approach such tanks.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Russian_man

... It seems like a good tank, but fools do it, because everyone has it, and therefore it is no use. ...

Let's order.
1. The tank is definitely not bad, but you think that its image is suffering. Why would you ?!
2. Everyone has a good tank. Who are these all ?! One tank at the barmaley ?! Are you seriously?!
3. Since supposedly everyone has it (see item 2.), Then the tank makers are fools. Where is the logic?!
4. Since supposedly everyone has it (see paragraph 2.), then there is no sense in it. Where is the logic?!

Quote: Russian_man

The main thing is that the advantage of striking power over armor be total, so that nothing can be understood, so that there is no competition between armor and shell. Then the image of the T-90 tank will not suffer, but rather will rise ...

1. Image (good, not suffering) is needed by all public people. And even then not everyone. But the weapon does not need an image, but a few other things. For example, combat readiness, striking effect, maintainability, stealth, ease of development, etc. For example, that’s why AK is copied even by the most backward pygmies, but I’ve never heard of clones of the products of the most talented Eugene Stoner. There are no modifications to the wagon and trolley, but it seems like there are no clones. At the same time, no one will argue that the M-16, for example, has a very good image. And the Chinese or Romanian AK is very bad. Nevertheless, both the barmalei and the luminous USMC warriors in real combat conditions do not disdain any AK variants. And sometimes they simply prefer it to other weapons.
Because the image is nothing and thirst is everything. and that's all.
2. It never happened that the advantage of striking power was total. The competition of armor and shell is eternal. The advantage can be total if only it is technological. That is, for example, tanks against fighting elephants. And in this case, in terms of autonomy, a correctly operated combat elephant will give odds not only to the tank, but also to the whole armored train. It's me that total superiority is possible. But not in everything or not always, or not over all. Although it is very tempting to equip your OBCHR with pi-piu-emitters and equip them with an impenetrable force field. Yes...

[Russian_man]

It seems to me, wishing to refute my comment, you did not disdain to mix everything in one pan, provided that your "concoction" in any case will be called soup ...
I tried ... to read. But .. alas, your kitchen is not food for the brain.
So that my statement does not look like a desire to offend you, I will outline some details ... of the "digestive process". Actually about the soup ...:
1. Terrorists fight on the tank and use our technology against us, actively and constantly, they are in the minority ... How did he get to them? Did he fight badly? And if so, why? ...
The war in Syria is a local war in terms of the scale of events that are covered in world
MASS MEDIA. Anyone who intervenes in this will look like a fool if he loses his technologies and allows their use against himself. The tank is not easy to make, there are more than 400 km of electrical circuits alone. In this case, the work of many people over many months is not simply lost. Here it is clearly seen that those who want peace can make weapons, and then they die from it, because those who want war, they value more (therefore, I propose to destroy them). So much for the fall of the image ... of the entire Syrian operation.
2. Who is helping the terrorists, the Americans or Russia? In the frame there is not a single Abrams rolling around Idlib. And there is no Challenger either, and Le-Clerk, etc. So who is smart here, the one who makes the tanks of the world, or who is actually capable of not giving them to terrorists, regardless of their desires. Columns of NATO peacekeeping equipment always look like this. Haven't guessed why yet? ... right, because their technique is only used on one side when the media is ready to show it on all channels. Here is the best tank for you. The best tank is the most wonderful and kind when it is shown on TV, which cannot be the case if it is used not even by the opposite side, but, in general, ... by terrorists! This is a very important point, because until the next "victory of good over evil" a good tank will have many advantages, while a bad one will have only disadvantages. As a result, this will affect sales and the attitude of the entire "world community" towards the country.
3. At a particular point in time, everyone cannot be right. It is quite obvious that a country that cannot exclude its technologies from falling into the hands of the aggressor or stop this situation is itself a hidden aggressor driven by a thirst for profit. It is worth acquiring such an ... image and it will be washed off with the blood of the heroes of Russia. Those who know Russia and its history well do not usually rank us as an aggressor who trades in death. But it may consider us to be unreliable weak-willed fools if our latest tanks will be freely used by ragged men from under the nearest gateway. In this case, there is no point in making the best tanks in the world - it will only get worse;
4. see item 3
And now ... the aftertaste ...
1. Re-read items 1-4 from the section "actually about the soup"
2. I propose to destroy the lost tank with superior weapons and indicated which ones ... You, along the way, did not understand me at all and wrote something of your own, but I also read your garbage about fighting elephants to the end.

Among other things, you must understand that there is an objective reality of what is happening there, but you will never know it, because it is far, difficult and dangerous. All that most people have in this case is the media. Therefore, it is not technical specifications that will always come to the fore, but momentary emotions and moods. I wrote about them, this is what is important now.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Fuck a pomegranate monkey? Where will they get spare parts?

[Thrifty]

The militants already had T90, as a trap, and they drove the same Kurds at them as they wanted! You can flick as much as you like, but you have to admit that experts from among the former tankers who knew this tank well came to the militants. And in the hands of specialists and one tank in the field is power! You can certainly shout that they will burn him, but so far the militants have used him carefully so as not to expose him to such a blow that the tank will become at least irreparable, and even scrap metal. I would like to ask some members of the forum about militants, it’s easy to laugh, to describe them as fools and stupid, but who has been fighting in Syria for so many years, and even had such a thing, and it beats the city back from the army? Underestimating the enemy in battle is dangerous, and fraught with heavy losses from the legitimate army, in this case the Syrian army.

[Rey_ka]

Yes, Donbas in the hands of professionals and IS3 was still power and T34 show themselves

[Komik]

There is an interesting book: "The Great Patriotic War in rubles." It describes the facts: the cost of equipment, bonuses and all hostilities in rubles. "Like:" The cost of the T-90 tank in 2010. was an astronomical figure of 70 million rubles, in 2011. - already 118 million rubles. Currently, the T-90 is not being delivered to the RF Armed Forces. It is assumed that the price of a combat vehicle now starts at 120 million rubles. "

[Pastor]

This once again proves that high-tech technology will not help if there is no courage and intelligence.

[Rey_ka]

Do not forget that the army supporting Assad is called "militants" in the liberal Western press, so it may not be so. we also had Chechen "rebels"

[Knell wardenheart]

"I got it from the stocks of the Russian army" - wow, we already have T90s in stocks .. This is a turn .. we live well!

[shoroh]

The situation that the T-90 was not abandoned, like the abrams in Yemen means that this technique is real for war and not parades