NATO forces will not help Turkey in the Syrian province of Idlib

NATO forces will not help Turkey in the Syrian province of Idlib

The death of the Turkish military in Syria in early February is not a reason for military assistance to the North Atlantic Alliance Ankara. At least, such a problem was not raised during the meeting of NATO defense ministers.


This was reported to the TASS news agency by a source working in the diplomatic mission of one of the Alliance states in Brussels.

He explains this by saying that Turkish soldiers died during a military operation on foreign territory, so it does not fall under the scope of Article 5 of the NATO Charter. The death of the military did not occur during the attack on Turkey, so it cannot count on other countries of the Alliance entering the conflict. According to the diplomatic worker, Ankara is well aware of this, and therefore they did not begin to raise this issue there. At the same time, he added that many European NATO members do not agree with the policy of Turkey in the Middle East.

Another source of TASS from the NATO military believes that the Turkish army is one of the most combat-ready in the Alliance. She is able to independently cope with the Syrian government forces. True, the concern is the possibility that Ankara’s active actions in Syria could cause its military clash with Iran or Russia.
Photos used:
Turkish Defense Ministry
Ctrl Enter

Noticed a mistake Highlight text and press. Ctrl + Enter

112 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. svp67 17 February 2020 16: 15 New
    • 18
    • 2
    +16
    The death of the Turkish military in Syria in early February is not a reason for military assistance to the North Atlantic Alliance Ankara.
    That’s all, "finita la comedy" ... I think that the Turks lost this round ... In any case, there is already information that our "VP" is evacuating and escorting Turkish troops from roadblocks that are deep in the positions of the Syrian army and deprived supply capabilities, to the positions of the Turkish troops
    1. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 16: 27 New
      • 11
      • 1
      +10
      Quote: svp67
      That's all, "finita la comedy" ... I think that the Turks lost this round

      NATO is still on friendly terms with the head, and revenge on Erdogan is also a little present. Now Erdogan may begin to declare to us in love and friendship. His dream of a new Ottoman Empire is quietly covered.
      1. Geniuses 17 February 2020 16: 31 New
        • 5
        • 1
        +4
        In fact, Turkey is an outcast to NATO, on secondary roles.
        1. Labrador 17 February 2020 16: 56 New
          • 9
          • 0
          +9
          And who in Nate is not an outcast except mattresses? I think that the big war is still more feared now than in the 30s.
          1. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 11 New
            • 12
            • 1
            +11
            Evil Briti, everyone else CANNOTLY MEAT, even the Germans, the Germans' problems are that they are in the majority SLAVAN, and there is the RACIAL BARRIER !!!
        2. Thrall 17 February 2020 16: 58 New
          • 8
          • 0
          +8

          They forgot the commander! smile
        3. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 17: 02 New
          • 8
          • 17
          -9
          Yeah, this "rogue" if he announces that he is leaving NATO, then the rest will come with tears to beg not to leave. The only warriors in NATO, in Europe, are the Turks and Germans. The Germans settled down in 1945, but as a nation militant. Turks , never calm down, even if the enemy is much stronger. The mentality is such, educated for millennia.
          1. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 14 New
            • 3
            • 2
            +1
            The evil Briti besides the Americans, all the rest CANNOTLY MEAT, even the Germans, the Germans' problems are that they are in the majority SLAVAN, and there is the RACIAL BARRIER !!!
          2. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 17 New
            • 9
            • 2
            +7
            Turks use NATO as toilet paper yet another Napoleon and then the Habsburg !!! ;)
            1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 17: 32 New
              • 8
              • 5
              +3
              Yes, of course, Napoleon is the main NATO member lol
              Frightened by the Ottomans who took Constantinople in 1453, Europeans searched for new lands, found America in 1492. Europe never ruled over Turks, and Turks ruled over half of Europe for 400 years. Who tells toilet paper, the story tells.
              1. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 40 New
                • 11
                • 1
                +10
                laughing laughing laughing The Turks were given 49 ships, TRADER BILLS to attack the Serbian Kingdom THROUGH BUOGARIU, and they came from CONSTANTINOPOL TO VENICE !!! Turk is used as toilet paper from the 12th century !!! wink
                1. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 23: 06 New
                  • 7
                  • 1
                  +6
                  Not from the 12th century, but constantly use them. Napoleon does not remember from history that he used them. The Germans used Turkey as they wanted, and the British also used them. The Habsburgs sometimes also set the Turks on Russia hi
                  1. Wolf 18 February 2020 13: 22 New
                    • 0
                    • 0
                    0
                    Do you know what Napoleon gave the Turks a cannon and an officer an instructor to strangle 1. Serbian rebellion? 1804
                    1. Wolf 18 February 2020 13: 36 New
                      • 0
                      • 0
                      0
                      1809 The Turks declared war on Russia, and launched an offensive on the Serbian rebels in Serbia, Then Napoleon sent Pushka, an instructor officer and a soldier to help the Turks. In the battle of Chegru 1809 many French soldiers died on the side of the Turks. There isn’t much written about this in history, but it was! wink
                      1. Wolf 18 February 2020 13: 47 New
                        • 0
                        • 0
                        0
                        This means that to understand how the Napoleonic Masonic EU prepared the ground for an attack on Rusiu from the beginning of the truck Turku sent to Rusiu, and then Napoleon the "great" commander sets in. And what happened? smile
                        Kutuzov simply kept with the Turks, but he rammed Napoleon and EU! and in 1814, the Ruska army left for Paris. So he fought at 2 FRONTS. Ode of Ivan the Great (Groznog) Russia could fight at 2 FRONTS and successfully. Today, someone is going to try, maybe life on 3 fronts?
                      2. Wolf 18 February 2020 13: 54 New
                        • 0
                        • 0
                        0
                        And ONE more interesting fact !!! Napoleon “fought” and sa Anglam Ali never with full strength and never with great resources. Just like Hitler fought with the Angles. AND ONE AND ANOTHER WAR WITH THE ENGLISH WAS A FAKE !!!
                        IF THERE WAS A NAPOLEON WHICH CREATED ALMOST EVA AS HOW Hitler HAD THIS RESOURCE AND ETU ARMENIA SENT IN ANGLES HE COULD RESCUE BRITAIN, EXACTLY LIKE HITLER !!! THREADS ARE FILLED THREADS TO HITLER WAS NOT THE OBJECTIVE TO BEAT THE ENGLAND! wink
                      3. Wolf 18 February 2020 14: 01 New
                        • 1
                        • 0
                        +1
                        According to the History of England, in the case of Napolen, they had the "great" Weligton, and in the case of Hitler, the Spitfaer. According to the annals of the thread Weligton, the threads of Spitfairi did not save England, but the agreement of the ROTSHILD family name and several other names. Napoleon attacked Rusiu with 700.000 soldiers, a cannon, etc. He could build sa resources. He even kept a bridge over the Lamans in the EU, just like Hitler! wink
                      4. Wolf 18 February 2020 15: 05 New
                        • 0
                        • 0
                        0
                        What was the Helm (Balkan) problem for Napolen, the Rothschilds and the Habsburgs, even the Turks ??? They don’t write anything about history and a simple person can’t know anything, but Helm had a great SLAVIC KINGDOM ALMOST BEFORE COSTINTHINOPOL IN THE NORTH BEFORE THE DANUBE IN THE SOUTH. WHEN THE TRADERS OF THE TRADERS POISONED THE KING OF DUSHAN, STARTED THE DESTRUCTION OF THE KINGDOM AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TURKS TO COME TO HELM. Until the Tsar of Dushan, the Serbs calmly kept ISLAMIC CHORDE WITH ANOTHER SIDE OF THE BOSPHORUS, SOMETIMES THE GANDA WENT TO BULGARIA THROUGH THE BLACK SEA, OR IN NORTH GREECE BUT IT'S QUICKLY AWAY. THE SERBIAN KINGDOM AFTER THE DEATH OF THE SHOWER DIVIDED IN 5 POWERS !!! 2 THE BROTHERS OF MRNACHEVICH ONE BULGARIU AND PART OF NORTHERN GREECE, OTHER PART OF GREECE AND MACEDONIU KEEPED. Brankovici kept northern Serbia and part of Rumania, Lazarevici central Serbia with Albania, and Kotromanichi Bosnia Great part of Croatia and the Adriatic coast. ALL THIS MAPE AND MAP HISTORICALLY IN THE HEAD OF THE FRAUD OF THE JESUITS, AND THEN AND MASONS. ESCHE'S FATHER OF THE KING OF DUSHAN KING MILUTIN - COMPLETE HIM NAME "PRESIDENT BULGARIA OF THE ADRIATIC SEA, AND THE EARTH EVERYTHING BEFORE THE DANUBE. He kept both Bari in Italy, for example, and the gates of the Adriatic pestilence so that the horns had to pay the sea to pay them in order to pay In addition, he issued gold and silver coins that made Mletkov angry. Then they wanted to make global $ and that they controlled the stamping, but Milutun was silan and smart and very rich they couldn’t. Then the famous Dante sings for spooling Milutin left in hell in his book. In addition King Milutin was ochima large trade with the people of Ukraine, Moldova and so on. There you will find still a lot of Serbian coins of 12-13 century.
                        Why did I write all this? To be able to see the current records.
                        In the 18th century, FRENCH JESUITI AND THE Catholic Church bring a lot of Gypsies and begin LATINIZATION OF THE PEOPLE IN ROMANIA !!! THERE WAS A SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH ALL UNTIL THE 20TH CENTURY !!!!!!!!!!!, And tzv. The Romanians wrote in Cyrillic. The end of the 18th century. FANARIOTS IN LOCATION WITH FRENCH JESUITS ??? BEGINNING HUMAN RESOURCES IN ROMANIA !!!
                        When the process of romanization was completed, romania ONLY THEN AND ONLY THEN REMEMBER THE BEGINNING OF THE ATTACK OF THE NAPOLEON AND TURKS (AS PREPARATION) IN RUSSIA. Therefore, Napoleon sent the Pushcha both officers and soldiers to help the Turks in Helma (Balkan). Even at the end of the 19th century the Serb people ’uprising began in Hercegovina (Hercegovachko uprising), the Turks were on the verge of collapse and they could do nothing weak. The people drove Turku from Bosnia. But immediately the Turks and the Habsburgs agreed that Austria could freely occupy Bosniu? So, according to the history of Anexia, in fact, according to the CHRONICLES, THE OCCUPATION OF THE SERBIAN LAND AND PEOPLE.
                        And for the Habsburgs, and for the Ottomans, it was better to betray the territory to the enemy than to let Serbia regain their sovereignty ??? Why not tell a story, but LETOPIS YES !!! Then they created Albania on Serbian soil in 1912, etc. Everyone knows what they are doing today.
                        Live were.
        4. Victorio 17 February 2020 19: 25 New
          • 0
          • 0
          0
          Quote: Oquzyurd
          Yes, of course, Napoleon is the main NATO member lol
          From the fright before the Ottomans having taken Constantinople in 1453, Europeans searched for new lands, found America in 1492. Europe never ruled over the Turks, but Turks ruled over half of Europe 400 years.Who toilet paper, the story tells.

          ===
          the Ottomans influenced, they were afraid, but they never ruled half of Europe. as regards the capture of Constantinople, by that time little was left of the former power and greatness of this great state and city.
          1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 20: 08 New
            • 2
            • 2
            0
            "then by that time there was not much left of the former power and greatness of this great state and city." The reason for this decline is the same Seljuk Turks who took the baton of the Ottomans. Beginning in 1071, .... (The war of August 26, 1071, between the Seljuk ruler Alp Arslan and the Byzantine Emperor Romain Diogenes IV.. The Battle of Manzikert, (Malazgirt) which led the victory of Alp Arslan, known as “the last war, which gave the Turks a definite victory at the gates of Anatolia) ..... for centuries waging a struggle, reached 1453 to Constantinople. Everything could have happened much earlier. But the invasion of the Mongols put the whole continent in a difficult position, in including the empire of the Turks. They are e. Mongols destroyed the Seljuk Empire and the Ottoman Empire was created in their place, while fighting the Mongols from the east and Byzantium from the west. The Mongols withdrew, the Ottomans lost their hands.
        5. major147 18 February 2020 00: 28 New
          • 2
          • 0
          +2
          Quote: Oquzyurd
          Yes, of course, Napoleon is the main NATO member lol
          Frightened by the Ottomans who took Constantinople in 1453, Europeans searched for new lands, found America in 1492. Europe never ruled over Turks, and Turks ruled over half of Europe for 400 years. Who tells toilet paper, the story tells.

          But the Russian men did not know this, and broke the Turks ....
    2. The comment was deleted.
      1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 17: 45 New
        • 5
        • 1
        +4
        In Livvi, the task is to keep Sarajah, and not to capture the whole of Libya. They will do this. In Syria, the task is to create security after their borders, until everyone in Syria settles down and elections are held. I note that the Turks are for a single Syria, and that’s in each case, everyone is told.
        "Armenians with the Greeks will feel the weakness and drive the Oghuz to the shkonka" Do not tell the people, because the Armenians in the games of geopolitical are not taken into account, the Greeks in NATO sit quietly, knowing that they get lyuley, it's like two or two, if anything. Iran already had problems above their heads, they still lacked that 30 million Oguzes in Iran stood up and sent the rest to Armenian friends. Believe me, the United States is waiting for such a gift. So, I hope Iran understands the arrangement.
      2. Yeraz 17 February 2020 18: 34 New
        • 3
        • 0
        +3
        Quote: brr1
        Then the Armenians with the Greeks will feel the weakness and drive the Oghuz under the shkonka.

        Well, of course)))))
        1. brr1 17 February 2020 21: 35 New
          • 0
          • 0
          0
          Quote: Yeraz
          Quote: brr1
          Then the Armenians with the Greeks will feel the weakness and drive the Oghuz under the shkonka.

          Well, of course)))))

          And what is not, they will throw themselves off at MANPADS, ATGMs and Ottoman scraps will fly up to fertilize the Syrian land.
    3. Yuri 17 February 2020 21: 06 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Of course the only ones, who else besides them ?! And who, if not the Russian audience, should know about it, because they met with them in countless battles.

      True, for some reason they beat the only ones both in the tail and in the mane, on land and at sea, from all conceivable angles and from all angles ... forever catastrophically inferior in numbers. But all this is so, trifles.
      And with the rest of the NATO, what kind of warrior is it? What is the use of people who number 600 knights cowardly throw out the darkness of the dark Turks from Malta? Or the Poles, who in a ratio of 1: 5 treacherously gouging even greater darkness under Vienna? Examples of such absurdities are a lot, just to list, I'm afraid the electricity will end.

      And finally, who, if not a real warrior, crawls into a foreign land, arranges an universal crisis, and immediately rushes with a screech to ask for help from NATO (where, as you know, the warriors have once and twice miscalculated)?

      As for leaving NATO, yes, they will not let go so easily. But not at all because of military qualities, but for completely different reasons.

      And most importantly, the Turks themselves will never come out - because there will no longer be anyone to run after for intercession! And if something happened, for example, the Greeks would suddenly be inspired by Paragraph N5 during another provocation over the Aegean Sea;
      1. The comment was deleted.
    4. lucul 17 February 2020 21: 10 New
      • 6
      • 1
      +5
      Turks will never calm down, even if the enemy is much stronger. The mentality is such, educated for millennia.

      Calm down - all the ambitions of the Turks buried the Russians, and more than once. At the moment, no one claims to the land of the Turks - you got (conquered) beautiful land - one of the best places on the planet. Live peacefully with your neighbors and everything will be fine.
      1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 21: 23 New
        • 0
        • 3
        -3
        I study the history of peoples (hobbies), I roughly know who is capable of what. I am Azerbaijani. Turks live from the Pacific Ocean to Bosnia and Albania. What are your ambitions? Are you living in such a large area that you don’t even need ambitions, this is a natural situation than ambition. Somewhere they conquered, somewhere they lost, but they were always like the earth itself.
        "Calm down - all the ambitions of the Turks were buried by the Russians." How can the continuation of the "Kyzyl Orda" (three hundred year old empire of the Turks) bury the ambitions of the Turks? This is similar in its time to the struggle of the Kyzyl Orda with the Ildegizids. Everything is repeated in history, with small amendments.
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 21: 57 New
            • 2
            • 2
            0
            Do not believe me, in the same family even people are killing each other. You probably live on Mars, you have little information about earthlings. Have you still got a taste of chewing gum yet?
            1. brr1 17 February 2020 22: 13 New
              • 0
              • 1
              -1
              Quote: Oquzyurd
              Do not believe me, in the same family even people are killing each other. You probably live on Mars, you have little information about earthlings. Have you still got a taste of chewing gum yet?

              And you?
        2. lucul 17 February 2020 22: 14 New
          • 1
          • 1
          0
          How can the continuation of the "Kyzyl Orda" (three hundred year old empire of the Turks) bury the ambitions of the Turks?

          You can run away from reality, only reality will not run away from you ....
          1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 22: 17 New
            • 1
            • 1
            0
            Yes, but there is a past and a future, when viewed more broadly.
            1. lucul 17 February 2020 22: 25 New
              • 2
              • 3
              -1
              Yes, but there is a past and a future, when viewed more broadly

              Genetic weapons have already been invented - as an example, coronavirus.
              Does the science of the Türks possess the necessary knowledge to counter if the genetic weapons, God forbid, are used against the Türks?
              This is a question - look wider ....
              1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 22: 40 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                Being Turk, it’s a mentality, just like other peoples. It’s not written on the genes “Turk” that they think up separate genetic weapons. In the genes of the Turks, all of Asia and Europe. Medicine and science are more developed than in Turkey. I’ll talk about the necessary details: you know that the world’s largest manufacturer of protective masks, clothes and gloves is Turkey. Yes, you will need medicines, but the elements are sewn up are very necessary in such cases. that is clearly visible in China.
                1. lucul 17 February 2020 22: 48 New
                  • 1
                  • 1
                  0
                  Medicine, science-directions more than developed in Turkey

                  Do you think that Chinese medicine is worse than Turkish medicine? But China still can not solve the riddle of the virus. You understand - it’s not an appendix to cut out - everything is much more complicated, at the genetic level, and the infection can completely devastate the entire population in 2 weeks, like a deadly flu.
                  And will your geneticists be able to solve the rebus in 2 weeks - otherwise there will already be nobody to save.
                  I’m not at all sure whether work is being done in Turkey in this area.
                2. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 22: 54 New
                  • 1
                  • 1
                  0
                  In any country with an economy and acquaintance with science, research has been carried out in this direction. Since 1980, work has been carried out in Turkey on genetics.
              2. lucul 17 February 2020 22: 51 New
                • 2
                • 2
                0
                On the genes "Turk" is not written the same, so that they separately invented genetic weapons

                Ask for example what a haplogroup is, for starters ....
              3. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 23: 00 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                I know what a haplogroup is. Therefore, I wrote that the Türks have all of Asia and Europe. Specifically, Turkish Türks have many haplogroups, since this people mixed up with all areas of geography during the administration (2 empires) in Asia Minor.
              4. brr1 17 February 2020 23: 37 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                Quote: lucul
                On the genes "Turk" is not written the same, so that they separately invented genetic weapons

                Ask for example what a haplogroup is, for starters ....

                Do not pay attention, this is an Azerbaijani who has lost faith in himself and is now smearing himself towards a more successful country, where Turks live who consider Azerbaijanis a dirty, groomed people with a dubious vulgarity. If you don’t believe me, when you will have a rest in Turkey, talk to the Turks about who the Azerbaijanis are and how they relate to them. Will be in shock
              5. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 23: 45 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                "Armenian Radio" in its repertoire. lol
              6. The comment was deleted.
              7. Oquzyurd 18 February 2020 00: 10 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                "Everything will be fine with you, and barbecue and saj and other shit." Eat for health, treat. Where you are so offended, and how that you behave like that.
              8. The comment was deleted.
              9. Oquzyurd 18 February 2020 00: 34 New
                • 1
                • 1
                0
                "barbecue and huckster" This is much more honorable than being an ordinary cattle.
              10. brr1 18 February 2020 00: 36 New
                • 0
                • 0
                0
                Quote: Oquzyurd
                "barbecue and huckster" This is much more honorable than being an ordinary cattle.

                You know better, we were neither the one nor the other. We live humanly, for the greatness of each dandruff we do not tell.
  • The comment was deleted.
  • Lipchanin 17 February 2020 17: 17 New
    • 2
    • 2
    0
    Quote: Geni
    In fact, Turkey is an outcast to NATO

    They are not accepted into the geyroposoyuz
    Hold near the threshold
    1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 17: 23 New
      • 2
      • 7
      -5
      "Hold near the threshold" Turks are satisfied, as they enjoy many of the EU's benefits, but are free to act. They look like they do what they want in the EU, but really they don’t.
      1. Lipchanin 17 February 2020 17: 49 New
        • 1
        • 1
        0
        Agree, we need their swar?
        Yes, let them spread rot on each other. Everything is fine on their piece of paper, but in reality they are ready to devour each other
  • LMN
    LMN 17 February 2020 16: 53 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    Quote: Sergey Olegovich
    Quote: svp67
    That's all, "finita la comedy" ... I think that the Turks lost this round

    NATO is still on friendly terms with the head, and revenge on Erdogan is also a little present. Now Erdogan may begin to declare to us in love and friendship. His dream of a new Ottoman Empire is quietly covered.

    "Was there a boy?" lol
    This is not revenge on Erdogan, and not the "sanity" of NATO.
  • Lipchanin 17 February 2020 17: 16 New
    • 2
    • 2
    0
    Quote: Sergey Olegovich
    NATO is still a little friendly

    Where to go
    "Glavshpan" will have elections soon. He does not need coffins. And they will
    1. Nyrobsky 17 February 2020 22: 31 New
      • 1
      • 0
      +1
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Quote: Sergey Olegovich
      NATO is still a little friendly

      Where to go
      "Glavshpan" will have elections soon. He does not need coffins. And they will

      Something like this. The mattresses themselves have problems above the roof in both Iraq and Afghanistan. They only jumped off from a full-fledged war with Iran, and here they are still drawn into one war without a clear prospect of ending it in their favor, and even for the Turkish Wishlist, clearly not in their interests.
  • Incvizitor 17 February 2020 18: 32 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    No NATO needs a new Ottoman Empire with an insane king in BV.
  • Lipchanin 17 February 2020 17: 14 New
    • 2
    • 2
    0
    Very good news
    Looks like a "ball" called Erdogan began to deflate
  • the most important 17 February 2020 17: 36 New
    • 4
    • 2
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    Everything, "finita la comedy" ...

    It has long been clear. But how many here shouted that for Turkey all as one in Nat harnessed and joyfully perished in a nuclear war. Unfortunately, a lot of commentators on VO do not see further their beer bottle standing in front of the sofa.
  • ML-334 17 February 2020 16: 15 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Who would doubt that.
  • Demagogue 17 February 2020 16: 15 New
    • 13
    • 0
    +13
    Everything now depends on how the Turks agree with Russia and Iran. It is not clear exactly where the front is stabilizing. It is clear that approximately somewhere in the area of ​​Jabal, which is now being stormed. The ledge is chopped up, or rather it is no longer as such, there are random fights. When the Asadites dig in, there will be a clear picture. Further the barmaley will be forced to the east, but how far ... this is politics.

    Marked yesterday's events on the map. First, there was a breakthrough near Bashkatin to highway 62, after which the barmalei decided that you could not earn all the money, and ran. Then, in a few more places, they took control of 62 and began to develop an offensive to the north in order to cut off the last retreat routes. The blow from the north was auxiliary and limited.

    1. serzh.kost 17 February 2020 16: 49 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      so the Anadan plateau and Jabal are already "ours." the offensive continues, and Darat Azza should soon be taken. and Al Atarib there, not just ironing them the same way.
      1. Demagogue 17 February 2020 17: 15 New
        • 1
        • 0
        +1
        You missed the word "yesterday".
        1. serzh.kost 17 February 2020 17: 35 New
          • 2
          • 0
          +2
          Well, you suggested that the front stabilizes in the Jabal region. it seemed strange to me, because despite the successes this is clearly not enough, the territory is too large in the hands of terrorists.
          The Kremlin seems to be decisive in the situation with Idlib. in the future, you can take the city of Idlib in a half ring, but there it will not do without solving the issue with Turkey. in principle, the Kremlin has good positions before serious negotiations with the Turks.
          1. Demagogue 17 February 2020 17: 48 New
            • 4
            • 0
            +4
            Jabal just took it. And you are already celebrating victory in Atarib. There is still a gap to the highway connecting Turkey with Idlib, which will certainly be occupied. In the south, they will probably also attack. And here is the most interesting part: will the Turks allow the highway to be cut to Idlib or will they join the battle.
  • Mountain shooter 17 February 2020 16: 16 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    A tub of cold water on the Sultan. One on one with Syria, the Turks can and control. However, who said that it will be Syria alone?
    1. hydrox 17 February 2020 16: 41 New
      • 2
      • 0
      +2
      And that’s true: as soon as the Kurds find out what a sultan received a slap in the face, they can again run to the Uss with a request to give them a front - it doesn’t matter where, in Syria or Kurdistan, but they can in East Azerbaijan (when they understand how much the Sultan it’s bad and how big a tooth Americans have grown on it!).
      1. Paranoid50 17 February 2020 20: 20 New
        • 2
        • 0
        +2
        Quote: hydrox
        again they can run to us with a request to give them a front

        They can no longer, for they are convinced that the kidalovo will come at any moment. And yes, the events of last week with the shooting of mattresses at the Kurds clearly did not add to them faith in the striped friendship. yes
        1. hydrox 17 February 2020 20: 36 New
          • 2
          • 0
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          They can’t, for they are convinced:

          Well, then I don’t know at all what they will do; after all, over the past two years, Americans threw them five times (if not more) :: that’s where their brains work, if each subsequent action for the Kurds only reduces the possibility of maneuver and getting help (such a static zug-zwang) ...
          1. Paranoid50 17 February 2020 20: 39 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: hydrox
            what will they do;

            Well, at this stage, it’s theirs, Kurds’s problems only. And brains - yes, it’s time to turn them on. yes hi
  • Grits 17 February 2020 16: 19 New
    • 9
    • 1
    +8
    It is clear that none of the well-fed and well-groomed Europeans and Americans want to exchange their villa and warm office in Kentucky for a basement in a dilapidated house or a canvas tent in a Polish swamp in order to protect some Turk with his bearded, unwashed and smelly Arab friend. No German burgher would agree to exchange a mug of foamy beer and greasy sausages in a cozy pub in the center of Munich for a bowl of sticky porridge and dark burda in a tin mug in the trenches of the eastern front near Kaliningrad or Kars to protect the Turk. So let the Turks continue to believe in the friendship and military assistance of NATO ...
    1. voyaka uh 17 February 2020 16: 28 New
      • 12
      • 10
      +2
      "none of the well-fed and well-groomed Europeans and Americans" ///
      ---
      Western armies are contracted.
      Well-fed and well-groomed do not sign contracts in the army. And those who sign, they know what they are going to.
      I saw in the fall in southern England how English special forces train in the English Channel in cold water. Into the water - running along the coast - again into the water ... endlessly.
      These will go to war anywhere.
      1. Grits 17 February 2020 16: 43 New
        • 12
        • 2
        +10
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Western armies are contracted.
        Well-fed and well-groomed do not sign contracts in the army. And those who sign, they know what they are going to.
        I saw in the fall in southern England how English special forces train in the English Channel in cold water. Into the water - running along the coast - again into the water ... endlessly.
        These will go to war anywhere.

        You simply miss their mind that the NATO war with Russia a priori very quickly turns into a nuclear one. And then already well-fed burgers on caramels will climb into dirty half-timbers, and yesterday’s hastily mobilized hipsters will freeze in dilapidated trenches. Rejoicing at a piece of fat in a mint pot with porridge.
        And by the way, the English special forces by that time will already be floating corpses in the cold sea in southern England. Since they will fly first.
        1. voyaka uh 17 February 2020 17: 10 New
          • 5
          • 1
          +4
          "You just miss their mind that the NATO war with Russia a priori very quickly turns into a nuclear one" ///
          ---
          What does Russia have to do with it? belay
          The article is about Turkey. And about whether NATO will help her. If ordered, there will be those who will go to help. They will not order - they will not go.
          1. Grits 17 February 2020 17: 31 New
            • 3
            • 2
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            What does Russia have to do with it? belay
            The article is about Turkey. And about whether NATO will help her.

            That’s the whole trick - NATO could only intervene if Russia butted Turkey. If Russia is not at war, then why do Turks support NATO? They will roll Syria without NATO.
            1. Bully 17 February 2020 18: 09 New
              • 4
              • 0
              +4
              I can hardly imagine that a prosperous USA, being across the ocean, would start to mock with the Russian Federation and nuclear weapons from the Turks. Those for them are all the same second-class people, for religious, racial, cultural and other reasons. Turks were accepted into NATO solely because of their favorable geographical position, and they wouldn’t have fallen to anyone. I suspect that the states will hand over European NATO members in the event of a serious kneading with the Russian Federation.
        2. 3danimal 18 February 2020 06: 23 New
          • 0
          • 0
          0
          Question: where will our fellow citizens be at this time? In Paradise? Because nothing will prevent the British SSBN from firing back.
          It seems that many argue, as in that joke "... But what for me then? .."
          1. Grits 18 February 2020 09: 56 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            Quote: 3danimal
            Question: where will our fellow citizens be at this time? In Paradise? Because nothing will prevent the British SSBN from firing back.

            Our citizens will be in the same place as the citizens of America and NATO countries. Someone in the trenches, someone in the basement, someone in the cemetery (if you're lucky). The only difference is that ours will be in paradise, and they will simply die ...
            (I didn’t say that).
            1. 3danimal 18 February 2020 14: 55 New
              • 0
              • 0
              0
              So are you a religious romantic?
              But how to think about avoiding such a scenario? Do you have a family?
      2. pipetro 17 February 2020 16: 59 New
        • 7
        • 1
        +6
        Quote: voyaka uh

        I saw in the fall in southern England how English special forces train in the English Channel in cold water. Into the water - running along the coast - again into the water ... endlessly.
        These will go to war anywhere.

        I also had fun recently, at first skiing with a heavy wind and cold in light clothing, and then pouring water on the street (I do not recommend it to anyone), but this does not mean that I am Rambo and the Terminator in one person and I’ll go to fight anywhere. It has nothing to do with it at all, I tell you exactly.
        1. voyaka uh 17 February 2020 17: 07 New
          • 6
          • 2
          +4
          It is commendable that you are so tempered. I respect good
          But those guys volunteered for the special forces. And they train not for their pleasure. And they know that they WILL EXACTLY be sent to some hot spot.
          Therefore, talk about the lazy and well-fed is not true. As in the Russian army there are similar guys, so in the American, English, German.
          1. pipetro 17 February 2020 17: 15 New
            • 2
            • 1
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            It is commendable that you are so tempered. I respect good

            Yes, there is nothing to respect, it is rather stupid. Because if you freeze the kidneys, then you will rest for a month later. Not to mention if all this is in the conditions of hostilities.
            ----------
            Special forces in any country know how to fight, only they rarely take fools into it. And these guys to certain death, too, will not always be sent. In a real war with a serious adversary, special forces have very few advantages over regular soldiers from the regular army.
            1. Paranoid50 17 February 2020 20: 26 New
              • 2
              • 0
              +2
              Quote: pipetro
              Yes, there is nothing to respect, it is rather stupid.

              Exactly. yes I, it was the case, grabbed two outfits for show-offs with water procedures - and this was still a company man in a good mood. laughing
            2. 3danimal 18 February 2020 06: 20 New
              • 1
              • 0
              +1
              That's right, it turns out a little better prepared infantry.
          2. 3danimal 18 February 2020 06: 13 New
            • 1
            • 0
            +1
            This is a consequence of propaganda on TV, IMHO. A typical stamp about "well-fed residents of developed countries", in which the army should be well-fed and lazy. Forget that these armies (fleet, air force) are NOT draft
      3. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 20 New
        • 4
        • 2
        +2
        They will go before the first bloody battle, then they will start thinking! wink
        1. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 21 New
          • 2
          • 1
          +1
          Wojaka, you are very astray!
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. Wolf 17 February 2020 17: 30 New
              • 4
              • 3
              +1
              In addition, most of the warriors of Rome were GLAVES IN THE PLACE WITH GENERALS, which the Romans began to use with brain firmware!
            2. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 19: 01 New
              • 2
              • 4
              -2
              I did not know that capital letters mean greater greatness and greater knowledge of this greatness lol
              1. Wolf 17 February 2020 20: 30 New
                • 2
                • 0
                +2
                More Letter because there are no black thick letters on the phone. History and Chronicle are different. The history of the Mirage Chronicles is much more interesting than the lazy history. In addition, nothing can be learned from history. Annals can be taught a lot! wink
                1. Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 21: 03 New
                  • 3
                  • 3
                  0
                  I thought that in Russian nobody would write worse than me, it turns out there are yes
                2. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 23: 11 New
                  • 4
                  • 1
                  +3
                  Quote: Wolf
                  In addition, nothing can be learned from history. Annals can be taught a lot!

                  Controversial moment. After all, the chronicle was written often by interested people ... Sometimes mistakes were made in the Chronicle. hi
      4. dzvero 17 February 2020 19: 22 New
        • 1
        • 1
        0
        The special forces will do it, but there’s a special conversation about him. The “simple” contract infantry ... will also go, there’s nowhere to go, but what kind of combat stability will it have if something goes wrong - that’s the main question.
        1. 3danimal 18 February 2020 06: 19 New
          • 1
          • 0
          +1
          Sustainability is a term from shipbuilding :)
          Stability is sufficient. Some are trained to conduct a combined arms battle, while others are trained to act in isolation from the main forces (therefore, increased requirements).
          Not hipsters are enlisted in the army.
      5. Tank hard 17 February 2020 19: 44 New
        • 1
        • 0
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        These will go to war anywhere

        Any mercenary fights only until a certain point. Do not buy a new life ... repeat
      6. Paranoid50 17 February 2020 20: 23 New
        • 3
        • 0
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        I saw in the fall in southern England,

        And again the jet goes into the void. fellow Here are the keywords: "autumn" and "southern." And in winter on Kola didn’t see anything? Oh yes, what am I talking about ... wassat
        Quote: voyaka uh
        These will go to war anywhere.

        laughing laughing laughing
    2. Bomb 17 February 2020 16: 41 New
      • 1
      • 6
      -5
      It’s not difficult to find 50-100 thousand biomass for slaughter by the local scumbags. You don’t have to go far for an example - right at your side is the LPR, DPR.
    3. Alexey RA 17 February 2020 17: 18 New
      • 4
      • 1
      +3
      Quote: Gritsa
      It’s clear that none of the well-fed and well-groomed Europeans and Americans want to exchange their villa and warm office in Kentucky for a basement in a dilapidated house or a canvas tent in a Polish swamp in order to protect some Turk with his bearded, unwashed and smelly Arab friend.

      And who, dear ones, will they ask?
      A vacation in a foreign land
      Uncle Sam does the best he can

      There, in the last Iraqi quarter of a million puzanov Citizen-Soldiers and Citizen-Airmen from the National Guard pulled from their homes and sent over the sea-Akiyan.
      By the way, NG Kentucky also participated in this.

      NY Kentucky 223rd Military Police Company Camp Camp Liberty, Iraq.
  • Vladimir_2U 17 February 2020 16: 27 New
    • 3
    • 2
    +1
    Well, just like a dog who barked at the postman through the gate, and then suddenly the gate (for the dog) was opened ...
  • Thrifty 17 February 2020 16: 33 New
    • 2
    • 1
    +1
    Most importantly, this is the result of a meeting in the Kremlin! And in the NATO block, they can say anything, but the decision on actions is taken personally in the United States. So, "trump will order -" there will be fools "- to paraphrase the known truth ...
  • Bagatur 17 February 2020 16: 33 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    The Turks themselves are bogged down in the Syrian swamp! Nobody invited them there, attacked even less! Let them drown themselves ...
  • Oquzyurd 17 February 2020 16: 39 New
    • 1
    • 2
    -1
    "This was reported to the TASS news agency by a source working in the diplomatic mission of one of the Alliance states in Brussels." "Another source of TASS from among the NATO military believes" Sorry, the "clarity and clarity" of these sources is amazing. Maybe the "source" works as a janitor in deep pre, and another tanker or infantryman in NATO. How will the reader understand this?
  • Lamata 17 February 2020 16: 40 New
    • 0
    • 2
    -2
    Even Europeans will harness for the Turks, and nobody canceled the historical memory.
  • Ros 56 17 February 2020 16: 59 New
    • 2
    • 1
    +1
    No one was going to NATO and will not help anyone, despite any fifth article. The office is now imprisoned according to the plan of the stripes to knock out money from their allies to implement their plans and purchase weapons from the striped defense industry. That is, in essence, payment of striped ambitions. And these burdocks hung their ears and protruded pockets.
  • Xenofont 17 February 2020 17: 14 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3


    Here is the latest database maps: Aleppo’s front has been famously leveled!
    1. Alexey RA 17 February 2020 19: 38 New
      • 2
      • 1
      +1
      Quote: Xenofont
      Here is the latest database maps: Aleppo’s front has been famously leveled!

      Yeah ... and at the bottom right is the traditional cry that evil Russian fighters are attacking civilian rabies cars.
  • The comment was deleted.
  • Paul Siebert 17 February 2020 17: 21 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    NATO "heroes" will not climb into Syria, for the sake of Erdogan.
    Some of them, even for the sake of the United States, did not climb into Iraq in 2003.
    Because - one life. And for the sake of the Ottomans no one wants to lose her ... laughing
  • rocket757 17 February 2020 18: 04 New
    • 4
    • 0
    +4
    They reminded the Turks and said that they themselves .....
    1. cniza 17 February 2020 19: 17 New
      • 5
      • 0
      +5
      Everything will depend on how quickly Assad will complete the operation, if it drags on then the United States will begin to quietly help.
  • Tank jacket 17 February 2020 18: 11 New
    • 2
    • 1
    +1
    Pruvet from trump Erdogan. The liberal model has outlived itself (s).
    1. cniza 17 February 2020 19: 15 New
      • 4
      • 0
      +4
      There, a small official answered him, but this does not mean that the United States itself can get involved, not like NATO ...
      1. Tank jacket 17 February 2020 19: 26 New
        • 2
        • 0
        +2
        Victor, hi , the petty official was allowed to voice. This is more humiliating for Erdogan to know his place. The dry answer of the bank clerk is “you are denied a loan”
        1. cniza 17 February 2020 20: 51 New
          • 3
          • 0
          +3
          Yeah, they showed where he should be ... hi
  • cniza 17 February 2020 19: 13 New
    • 3
    • 0
    +3
    He explains this by saying that Turkish soldiers died during a military operation on foreign territory, therefore it does not fall under the scope of Article 5 of the NATO Charter.


    Briefly and clearly - in a foreign territory ...
  • Vasyan1971 17 February 2020 19: 41 New
    • 2
    • 0
    +2
    He explains this by saying that Turkish soldiers died during a military operation on foreign territory, therefore it does not fall under the scope of Article 5 of the NATO Charter.

    Lovely! Keyword - ALIEN TERRITORY. It turns out that Turkey is an aggressor! Drive with a dirty rag!
    1. cniza 17 February 2020 20: 52 New
      • 3
      • 0
      +3
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      Drive with a dirty rag!


      Which is carried out ...
  • Chingachguk 17 February 2020 21: 54 New
    • 2
    • 1
    +1
    These are the times .... request and the Turk so hoped !!!!! He urgently needs to look for someone to lie down now to help steer the situation! And so belligerently declared all crap! And our diplomat was already frightened, and mountains of Russian skulls were already promised! Well, directly fear is gosopen! What about now?
  • Astra55 18 February 2020 00: 12 New
    • 6
    • 0
    +6
    Just Erdogan once again thrown.
  • tolmachiev51 18 February 2020 04: 21 New
    • 0
    • 0
    0
    - "Turkish soldiers died during a military operation on foreign territory, therefore it does not fall under the scope of Article 5 of the NATO Charter" - they themselves got involved and destroy.
  • Livonetc 18 February 2020 08: 12 New
    • 1
    • 0
    +1
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Yes, of course, Napoleon is the main NATO member lol
    Frightened by the Ottomans who took Constantinople in 1453, Europeans searched for new lands, found America in 1492. Europe never ruled over Turks, and Turks ruled over half of Europe for 400 years. Who tells toilet paper, the story tells.

    Respected.
    The Ottoman Empire fell in the first half of the 20th century.
    Are you hoping for her recovery?
    The Republic of Turkey is still a capable state.
    However, now you have a precarious state of domestic politics.
    Yes, and with foreign policy problems.
    You urgently need to change something.
    Or are you a supporter of the further Islamization of Turkey, with the rejection of the legacy of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk?