In California, they will apologize to ethnic Japanese for the "Roosevelt Gulag"


Former Manzanar Mountain Camp Memorial California


The California legislature (USA) plans to publish an official apology for keeping Japanese Americans in special camps during World War II.

According to the most conservative estimates, in 1942 about 120 thousand US citizens with Japanese roots got into the camps created on the territory of the USA (they are called the “Roosevelt Gulag”).

Then this was done on the basis of the order of the President of the United States due to the fact that almost every ethnic Japanese after the well-known events in Pearl Harbor was perceived as a potential spy or agent of Japanese intelligence. Japanese prisoners of war went there.

To support the Japanese, including children and the elderly, 10 camps were created, some of which were in California.

From the materials of the California press:

California authorities apologize for racist stain left in stories state and all USA. The California Assembly remembers how Japanese-Americans were sent to camps in the 1940s. Formal apologies will be made with the approval of State Governor Gavin Newsom. We want such persecution of freedom never to be repeated in our country.

The text, prepared by the California Assembly, criticizes the initiative of the US authorities in 1943, when the Americans of Japanese descent could revoke US citizenship.

One of the largest Japanese camps in the United States is Manzanar, which was located in California.

The United States itself called this initiative "Gavin Newsom political action", which is directed against Donald Trump. Newsom - representative of the Democratic Party. He has repeatedly spoken out against Trump's policy of tightening migration laws.
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  1. Loess 17 February 2020 10: 24 New
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    got about 120 thousand US citizens who had Japanese roots.

    For the maintenance of the Japanese, including children and the elderly, 10 camps were created, some of which were in California
    The stronghold of democracy, Yoshkin cat ...
    1. Same lech 17 February 2020 10: 27 New
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      This is where you can frolic in the spirit of our Memorial ascribing to the American pale-faced jackals the destruction of billions of Indians and Japanese immigrants ...
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      2. Shurik70 17 February 2020 13: 11 New
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        We want such persecution of freedom never to be repeated in our country

        That is why Guantanamo was created in Cuba
    2. vkl.47 17 February 2020 10: 30 New
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      And for Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where is the apology? And in general for all military conflicts. Where is my moral and motorial damage for "Rimbaud 2,3"?
      1. Same lech 17 February 2020 10: 39 New
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        . Where is my moral and motional damage for "Rimbaud 2,3"?

        Yes, there alone Rambo shot the entire army of Vietnamese and Latinos ... a tough guy ... he needs to be presented for Afghanistan ... Al Qaeda supported the terrorists ... not what a fantastic scope for lawsuits against the United States ... not a plowed field .
        1. carstorm 11 17 February 2020 10: 45 New
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          and in the second part and in the third he also drove our crowds there)
    3. carstorm 11 17 February 2020 10: 44 New
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      not for justification, but simply as a matter of fact such steps are being taken by everyone who starts the war. we didn’t do very well with the Germans. but it was a necessity. my family understood that. I don’t know whether it was possible to act differently, but such decisions are clear. I don’t understand why these apologies.
      1. bessmertniy 17 February 2020 10: 54 New
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        If the population with Japanese roots was hostile against Roosevelt and America, then the Japanese reservation was a way out in the traditional way for the USA.
        1. carstorm 11 17 February 2020 11: 08 New
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          when the war begins there is no time to test everyone. it is not a matter of hostility but survival. in this topic, the conditions in which these people were driven are much more important. there are enough horrors. some camps were built right in the desert. towers around the perimeter with machine guns. I have long read the memory of a Japanese who got there as a child.
        2. Lopatov 17 February 2020 11: 18 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          If a population with Japanese roots was hostile against Roosevelt and America

          Google, the 442nd Infantry Regiment of the 92nd Infantry Division, which consisted almost entirely of Japanese soldiers.

          Keeping their relatives in concentration camps as hostages gave an effect - the regiment was even awarded the Congressional Gold Medal
          Correspondents called one of the battalions of this regiment a "Purple Heart battalion" because of the huge number of wounded.
          The first company of this battalion, saving the "right Americans" from Texas who had been distributed, lost 177 out of 185 enlisted soldiers beaten and wounded. In one battle.
      2. Skay 17 February 2020 11: 13 New
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        I don’t understand why these apologies.

        This is politics, there is no conscience there:

        The United States itself called this initiative "Gavin Newsom political action", which is directed against Donald Trump. Newsom - representative of the Democratic Party. He has repeatedly spoken out against Trump's policy of tightening migration laws.
    4. 210ox 17 February 2020 13: 06 New
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      And here I think that the Amerzians did the right thing. By the way, even the Volga Germans were driven "for Mozhaia"
    5. vadim dok 17 February 2020 16: 40 New
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      You forgot about the deportation of ethnic Germans to the USSR to Siberia and Kazakhstan, labor armies and other "joys." How many died of hunger, cold, inhuman living conditions! In the United States, almost none of the Japanese died. Remember the Chechens, Crimean Tatars, Ingush .. ..America apologized and paid ALL compensation. And what did the USSR do?
      1. Volodin 17 February 2020 17: 16 New
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        Quote: vadim dok
        You forgot about the deportation of ethnic Germans to the USSR to Siberia and Kazakhstan. America apologized and paid ALL compensation. And what did the USSR do?

        But for some reason, after a terrible deportation, the number of ethnic Germans in the USSR only increased. Like the Ingush with the Crimean Tatars. Oops ...
      2. Mountain shooter 17 February 2020 23: 37 New
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        Quote: vadim dok
        .How many died of hunger, cold, inhuman living conditions! In the USA, almost none of the Japanese died. Remember the Chechens, Crimean Tatars, Ingush ... America apologized and paid EVERYTHING compensation. And what did the USSR do?

        Apologize? In my opinion, only now ... And how many really died? And remember the Aleuts in the same camps? And how many people in the US died in the Great Depression? Labor armies? Hunger? Read Steinbeck, The Bunches of Wrath! And not a Russian writer, through and through the American ...
  2. rocket757 17 February 2020 10: 25 New
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    Everyone has their own "skeletons in the closet"! Sometimes they fall out of there ... or get out, by "necessity", who needed it.
    1. Same lech 17 February 2020 10: 31 New
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      Sometimes they fall out of there ... or get out, by "necessity", who needed it.

      Since now the Anglo-Saxons began to actively rewrite the history of WWII is not a sin and use their skeletons ... in the history of the United States there are many unpleasant moments that they do not like to mention ... this is the slavery of blacks ... this is the genocide of the Indians ... this is the famine immigrants ... this is the seizure of foreign lands and much much more.
      1. rocket757 17 February 2020 11: 04 New
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        Cousins ​​against the background of the rest of the "progressive" world are especially, exceptionally, as the Yankees said.
        So, solely on the pain and suffering of many in this world. They don’t even have skeletons in the closet, they have their own, the largest cemetery in which they hide all their crimes ... besides, they are not many whose cemeteries are replenished with “fresh” graves CONTINUOUSLY!
      2. Mathafaka 17 February 2020 11: 46 New
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        in the history of the United States there are many unpleasant moments that they do not like to mention ... this is the slavery of blacks ... this is the genocide of the Indians ... this is the famine of immigrants ... this is the seizure of foreign lands



        Stop lying. Full of books and films about this. Starting with Jack London, O. Henry and Mine Reed.

        Quentin Tarantino alone took so much about slavery. There are whole movie libraries about slavery and blacks.
        There are cartoons, the same Poka-Khontas.
  3. Krasnodar 17 February 2020 10: 26 New
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    The next step should be the creation of Arab Arab self-defense in California in the event of another war in the Middle East. To each Wahhabi according to Javelin, to each takfirisiu - according to Stinger. Repent before the barmaleys in public, mericatos!
  4. knn54 17 February 2020 10: 42 New
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    Why California ONLY ??
  5. Ravil_Asnafovich 17 February 2020 10: 45 New
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    Yes, it is possible to list, and it is necessary, after the end of WWII, in Germany in the occupied territory more than a million Germans died of starvation.
  6. fruit_cake 17 February 2020 10: 45 New
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    it's time to recognize the American famine due to dust storms
  7. mark2 17 February 2020 10: 50 New
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    . due to the fact that almost every ethnic Japanese after the well-known events in Pearl Harbor was perceived as a potential spy or agent of Japanese intelligence.


    And imagine, if the authorities then did not.?
    Then they would most likely be cut out. A population harassed by grief and anger over Pearl Harbor would prey on the Japanese. And the police, also by the way with the same blurred consciousness, defiantly turned away and closed her eyes, as was the case with the blacks.
    So all these repentance and dusting of the head with ashes are superfluous. For the sake of politicians of a new wave. They earn political points so-so.
    1. Volodin 17 February 2020 11: 00 New
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      Quote: mark2
      And imagine, if the authorities then did not.?
      Then they would most likely be cut out

      That and that. Democracy - it is this: either a massacre or a concentration camp is obtained ...
      But the "bloodthirsty tyrant" they still have exclusively Stalin ...
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      2. Rurikovich 17 February 2020 11: 38 New
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        Quote: Volodin
        But the "bloodthirsty tyrant" they still have exclusively Stalin ...

        Such is it, Western "democracy" ... Electoral request
      3. God save the king 17 February 2020 12: 00 New
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        But the "bloodthirsty tyrant" they still have exclusively Stalin ...
        Each country has its own dark pages of history, at least the Americans have the mind to not hide them, recognizing mistakes.
        The bloody massacre arranged by the baleen ghoul does not compare with internment in wartime.
      4. Mathafaka 17 February 2020 12: 03 New
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        But Stalin was not a tyrant?

        Trotsky, Tukhachevsky, Yezhov, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Berry, Zalutsky, Smilga, Muralov, Serebryakov, Glebov-Avilov, Uborevich, Yakir, Cork, Artuzov, Karahan, Syrtsov, Sharks, Dogadov, Milyutin, Voronoi, Sulimin, Yakvin, Moskvin, Moskvin Yenukidze, Mandelstam, Vavilov, Kalinin, Witt, Bronstein


        What happened to them?
        1. Pavel57 17 February 2020 12: 28 New
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          The man of the poison was gassed in the Tambov forests.
        2. Volodin 17 February 2020 12: 57 New
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          Quote: Mathafaka
          But Stalin was not a tyrant?

          Hmm ... And the word "exclusively" in the comment above, my dear, does it mean anything to you?
  8. mark1 17 February 2020 10: 53 New
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    "Forgive us," Japanese brothers, "because during the war years you were kept in harsh conditions in California without Coca-Cola and bubble money, and were not sent off to Nevada! (Even if the local authorities apologized)"
  9. rotmistr60 17 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    The US called this initiative "Gavin Newsom political action", which is directed against Donald trump
    Don't understand the connection between Trump and the apology for the camps? What does Trump's migration policy and camps for the Japanese at that time in the United States have to do with it? Even at first glance, good initiative was pulled over the ears by the incumbent president.
    1. vadim dok 17 February 2020 16: 48 New
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      Many years ago, R. Reagan apologized to the Japanese.
  10. Prisoner 17 February 2020 11: 16 New
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    Is it not time to repent for the bombardment of Herosima and Nagasaki?
    1. No, it's not time. For defeat legitimate target of the attack apologize is not accepted.
      1. Foul skeptic 17 February 2020 12: 41 New
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        legitimate target of the attack is enshrined in the protocols of the Geneva Convention later than nuclear bombing. But if you don’t look at it, it’s very bold to call Hiroshima and Nagasaki legitimate goals. Especially in the context of the method used. To which there is a direct restriction - to use technologies whose scale of destruction and the consequences of the application of which are poorly or not predictable is prohibited.
        1. In war, the "rule of mutual amnesty" applies. Everything that the adversary practices is automatically allowed to the other side. that is why Nimitz witnessed the defense of Doenitz in Nuremberg. In addition, there were military and military-industrial facilities in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Including and strategic importance.
          1. Foul skeptic 17 February 2020 13: 19 New
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            Everything that the adversary practices is automatically allowed to the other side.

            Do you remember that we are talking about a specific nuclear bombardment of two specific cities? I will not find a connection between them and your proposal. Or did I miss the Japanese atomic bomb drop on an American city?
            In addition, there were military and military-industrial facilities in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Including and strategic importance.

            The destruction of which should not contradict:
            damage to civilians or civilian property should be proportionate and not excessive in relation to the specific and expected direct military advantage

            and should not contradict:
            use technologies whose scale of destruction and consequences of their application are poor or unpredictable

            It’s just that you can’t blame the United States for anything now, because they did not ratify these norms at the time of the events under discussion, due to the lack of such norms.
            1. Do you remember that we are talking about a specific nuclear bombardment of two specific cities? I will not find a connection between them and your proposal. Or did I miss the Japanese atomic bomb drop on an American city?

              According to the rules of military law, it is enough that Japanese aviation subjected the cities of the US ally, the Republic of China, to carpet bombing. And in none of the Charter it is said that if you are sprinkled with FAB-50 and ZAB-2.5, you cannot pour anything more powerful and perfect in the answer. This is war. It doesn’t work: "you were hit a little - you answered a little". It works here: "if you were hit, you hit in return so that those who did this stupidity would no longer dare even cast a crooked look in your direction."
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  12. Voltsky 17 February 2020 11: 29 New
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    They even sang about it in due time.
  13. Rurikovich 17 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    Oh how !!! belay It’s interesting, but for the genocide and reservations of the local population, that is, the Indians, will there be an apology? what
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      1. yaros 17 February 2020 12: 50 New
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        C'mon, what do you know about the bacteriological war ?, when half the Indians, the Northwest, were killed in 2 years, when the doctor made a vaccine for himself and went to the Indian camps to put up and cuddle, after his departure more than half of the villages died of smallpox on the 3rd day, In this, all Americans, at first embracing, and shitting from the bash, why didn’t we deal with the genocide of the peoples, just don’t remember the Holodomor, people in Western Ukraine and Moldova died in batches, and that at that time were the territory of Poland and Romania.
        1. I know a little about biological warfare. smile
          As well as the fact that smallpox conquistadors brought smallpox to America. As well as the fact that the first epidemics of smallpox among the natives in the territory of the present States were recorded even before the War of Independence.
          Well, if you have a butthert from the Holodomor - you can recall Asharshylyk.
          1. yaros 17 February 2020 13: 48 New
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            what constitadors in the 70s of the 19th century, damn you know a lot, go see, there whole tribes have perished, after the Russians left there.
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            2. Conquistadors are the 1870th century. So which Native American tribes уг threatened ’smallpox in the XNUMXs? List. Well, proofs. wink
              1. yaros 17 February 2020 22: 38 New
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                Tribes of southern Alaska including Kenai, Tanana and Ingaliki and others watched the American film National Geographic about them .... Proofs, look for yourself, ...
                1. Those. - You tell tales, and should I look for proofs on them? No - "myself, boy, myself!" smile
                  But I’ll throw something up. The most catastrophic smallpox epidemic in the history of the natives of Alaska (and went down in history as the Great Alaskan epidemic) occurred in 1835-1840. When Alaska belonged to the Russian-American company.
                  Proof:
                  https://odynokiy.livejournal.com/970628.html
              2. yaros 18 February 2020 16: 13 New
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                Madame, I’m not going to argue with you, I told you the source, the film National Geographic, there is a memory of the children and grandchildren of the tribes, you want to find and see that the whole 18th 19th and even half of the 20th century genocide of the Indians is a fact, one bison slaughter in the middle of the 19th century what it was worth, and the last Native American uprising was already in the 60s of the 20th century, your pretty America, the only country in the world that used all types of WMD, weapons of mass destruction in its history. As for the famine in Kazakhstan, as I understand you are a Kazakh nationalist, and focus on the events in this former republic of the USSR, only at that time there was a famine both in the Volga region and in Ukraine, and in the western one, which was under Poland and Romania, and in India (famine in the USSR by the number of dead cannot be compared), and in America during the Great Depression, well, of course it’s convenient for you to recall only Kazakhstan. So you don’t have to tear out separate pieces of history to your advantage; it is flawed without a general picture of the world ...
                1. 1) If you refer to something - to provide proof - your problem. Nobody will do your work for you;
                  2)
                  The worst famine was at that time in the Volga region
                  - Your words?
                  So it is not true;
                  3) Not a single famine in British India reached the level of famine in the USSR in the early 1930s;
                  4) "The Holodomor of the Great Depression" - a fake;
                  5) So far, the last Native American uprising was in the 1990s. In Mexico.
                  1. yaros 18 February 2020 17: 18 New
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                    Madam, you see a movie in the proof for you)) As for British India, according to some estimates, more than 20 million, and the famine was several years, from Wiki "The Famine of Bengal of 1943 (Beng. পঞ্চাশের মন্বন্তর) - events in British Bengal, during which from malnutrition and diseases died according to various estimates from 4 (according to British historiography) to 30 million [an unauthorized source?] people from 60,3 million "population. I meant the Indian uprising in the USA, by the way in the 19th century the tribes of the midwest Sioux, Apachei almost destroyed , treasure hunters in California drove the Indians from the ancestral lands, and the famous phrase “A good Indian is a dead Indian” was born in the 19th century, and how many buffalo were destroyed so that the Indians did not get, look for a horror picture of those times with bison heads ....
        2. boriz 17 February 2020 20: 56 New
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          More blankets of smallpox patients were given / sold.
          And about the famine, in the United States in those same years, 6-7 million people died of hunger, according to various sources. Despite the fact that we really had nothing, but they had a crisis of overproduction and burned grain, meat, poisoned, drowned in rivers and the sea. Democracy, however.
          1. And about the famine, in the United States in those same years, 6-7 million people died of hunger, according to various sources.

            In the fantasies of comrade Borisov - yes. laughing
            In statistical reports, it is somewhat different:
            https://faf2000.livejournal.com/12938.html
  14. bubalik 17 February 2020 11: 58 New
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    ,,, yes maybe it was better for them. It didn’t even come to outright killings, as the white, neighbors wrote on their houses: “a good Japanese, a dead Japanese.” And I would like to know the percentage of deaths from inhuman living conditions.
    And they received compensation:
    ,,, In 1948, the interned Japanese were paid partial compensation for the loss of property (from 20 to 40% of the value of the property).
    ,,, 1988, President Ronald Reagan signed a document in which on behalf of the US government apologized for the internment of the Japanese (as well as the Germans and Italians). Each of the deportees was entitled to 20 thousand dollars of compensation. In 1992, the Bush administration added another $ 7 each.
  15. smart fellow 17 February 2020 12: 00 New
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    The repressed Japanese were paid compensation of several tens of thousands of dollars for each. A familiar American woman even envied that they had flown in for free. Lucky that they didn’t send to Alaska.
    In Russia, too, repressed co-payments go to pensions. Of course, no luck with the place, Siberia and the Far East are not California.
  16. Ka-52 17 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    California authorities will apologize for the racist stain left in the history of the state and all of the United States.

    what does the racist spot have to do with it? Wartime precaution.
    Americans have more reasons to repent
  17. Lord of the Sith 17 February 2020 12: 29 New
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    Roosevelt Gulag


    The Yankees were shitting here. For them, “Gulag” is a terrible totalitarian word, but in fact it is the Main Directorate of Correctional Labor Camps, the Federal Penitentiary Service in the modern, criminals were serving their sentences in these camps.

    And the mattresses had concentration camps, where they threw everyone who got, for racial reasons, in the best traditions of the Third Reich.
  18. Lamata 17 February 2020 12: 33 New
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    Merged in front of the Japanese.
  19. yaros 17 February 2020 14: 10 New
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    Quote: second lieutenant Anastasiya Besko
    Well, if you have a butthert from the Holodomor - you can recall Asharshylyk.

    The worst famine at that time was in the Volga region, did the Russians themselves genocide? And by the way, there was a famine at that time and in the United States many people died from the Great Depression, and in Eastern Europe, and what the British did in those years in India, it’s better not to recall, according to various estimates, 15-20 million people died of hunger, but equally, this is different from when Dr. Yankee purposefully travels through the camps of the Indians vaccinated against smallpox, and infects immunity Indians, freeing up territories for Amers, by the way he was paid quite well for this ....
    1. The worst famine in the USSR at that time was in Kazakhstan. Up to half of the population died there.
      A link to the analysis of stories about "famine in the United States" - I already gave here.
      Well, I'm waiting for the proof on the story of the Evil Doctor.
      PS By the way, who organized the Great Alaskan smallpox epidemic in Russian America ?? wink
  20. NF68 17 February 2020 14: 39 New
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    Are you too late to catch up?
  21. Fantazer911 17 February 2020 16: 04 New
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    They would still have to apologize for recognizing the nuclear bomb against Japan and recognize genocide, the killing of civilians with nuclear weapons against Jeroshima and Nagosaki
    1. Astra55 18 February 2020 00: 34 New
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      So it’s the Russians who bombed them! wassat
      More and more people think that way.
      So do not rush.
      About 30 years later, let Russia make excuses for this bombing. belay
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        Quote: Astra55
        So it’s the Russians who bombed them!


        So there was no one else to bomb.
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    The main thing is to remember when you are already dead. And everything is quiet, no indignation, no one sings the song of the song "1942". Everything is possible!
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    The main thing is that human processing into corpses in the United States is working to its full potential, torture, occupation patrols that shoot children, robbing oil - they are somehow not impressive. They felt ashamed of World War II, when there was no one to hang on for the crimes of those years. And now - three presidents, three vice-presidents, half a dozen defense ministers, a dozen commanders in chief and thousands of PMC officers and soldiers of the gallows cannot wait. But they are not ashamed. For when a loop requires their neck, they make round eyes - these are the costs of democratization, not crimes against humanity.
  24. lvov_aleksey 17 February 2020 23: 44 New
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    let's talk for the Indians !!!
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    1. The country's right to “teach life” does not depend on its age. It depends on what the Japanese call "common national potential."
  26. Astra55 18 February 2020 00: 40 New
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    Tolerasts and Tolerasts in Africa.
    The war is against Japan. Why the Japanese army is needed in its rear.