"Use the experience of Croatia": On the statements of the authorities of Ukraine on the Donbass at the Munich Conference


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President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky during the 56th Munich Security Conference held in Germany made another original statement, voicing the idea of ​​a “joint patrol of the border between the East of Ukraine and Russia,” which, in his opinion, would ensure the holding of hypothetically discussed elections in the region . What are these innovations, and why did Kiev suddenly need them?

Recall, one of the most painful issues that inexorably arises in any attempt to reach mutual understanding on cardinal issues related to the settlement of the military conflict in the region is the moment of control over the border between Donbass and Russia during the elections in the republics. Those who theoretically should be followed by their reintegration into Ukraine with a special status. That is, in fact, the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

Kiev for many years now, with impenetrable obstinacy, has been insisting that the border on the eve of the expression of the will of the region's inhabitants by the region should be transferred to the control of Ukrainian security officials. Moscow, as well as the leaders of the DPR and LPR, strongly disagree with this - for understandable reasons: it is clear what kind of "election" there will be.

Zelensky talks about the option, which seems to be the first real step towards at least some kind of compromise. Under him, the composition of border security groups will have to include both Ukrainians and representatives of the republics, as well as OSCE mission staff. At first glance, already progress. But only at first. The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Vadim Priestayko, who specified the words of the leader of the state, made a slip of his tongue in Munich: Kiev seeks to “use the experience of Croatia” in order to ensure security in the territory of Donbass.

And this is a completely different turn. The fact is that with the idea of ​​the implementation of the Croatian scenario in the Donbass for a long time, none other than one of the main supporters of the power "de-occupation" of the region and the irreconcilable confrontation with its defenders - the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. By the way, an interesting detail: at all international events where issues of resolving the conflict in the East and the implementation of the Minsk agreements are raised, he not only accompanies Zelensky, but literally looms behind him, like an overseer. So it was in Munich. He tried to push through the idea of ​​joint patrolling during the election, not just of the border, but of the entire territory not controlled by Kiev today.

Obviously, it was he who inspired similar thoughts and the president. Zelensky, on the eve of the previous Norman meeting, spoke out about the creation in the Donbas of a “municipal wart” in the same mixed composition that he voiced in Munich. At the same time, at least one double bottom was initially laid down in the proposals, which made them unacceptably unacceptable: according to the plan of Kiev, the DPR and the LPR in these formations should have represented persons who in no case had “not previously participated in the hostilities”. But regarding the Ukrainian side, there were no such restrictions at all. I remember that the President was sent very concretely and far to the LPR, saying that they would not join the ranks “with killers and looters” under any circumstances. It would seem that the topic is closed ...

And in Munich, the old songs sounded in a new way. In combination with the claims expressed by Zelensky about the conclusion of peace in the Donbass “under the conditions of Ukraine” because she has “the strongest army in Europe” and the proclaimed desire to communicate not with the leaders of the DPR and LPR, but “with the whole people of Donbass directly ", The impression is painful. This does not look like a movement towards a real settlement of the conflict. Are Croatian motives and the like idle talk of Zelensky an answer to the direct question of Vladimir Putin about whether he intends to implement the Minsk agreements? Alas, it is very likely that yes.
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  1. Thrifty 17 February 2020 06: 30 New
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    We rush with this uk-roina, as with a written sack! It’s high time to inform NATO that if suddenly they decide to accept their homeland in this military bloc, then Russia will annul its signatures under treaties guaranteeing its integrity and independence as a state! Then, the neighbors of this quasi-state and rush to divide it into parts! In Kiev, they don’t understand that it’s not strange, but Russia is the de facto guarantor of the existence of Ukraine as such!
    1. Non liberoid Russian 17 February 2020 07: 03 New
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      and that Russia has concluded some kind of agreement? Budapest memorandum does not count, no one ratified it, even in Ukraine
      1. Tatyana 17 February 2020 10: 23 New
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        with the idea of ​​realizing the Croatian scenario in the Donbass for a long time, none other than one of the main supporters of the power "de-occupation" of the region and the implacable confrontation with its defenders - the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov. By the way, an interesting detail: at all international events where issues of resolving the conflict in the East and the implementation of the Minsk agreements are raised, he not only accompanies Zelensky, but literally looms behind him, like an overseer.

        Zelensky is Kolomoisky’s protégé and thimble toy under Avakov’s supervision!
        Kolomoisky financed the raiders and nationalists of Avakov. "Azov", "Aydar" and others - this is their doing.
        And for the killed Russian "Muscovites" - for each head - Kolomoisky announced payment of $ 10 thousand to the militants

        See detail video "Igor Kolomoisky. Wild money" without registering on YouTube in Yandex.
        1. TermNachTer 17 February 2020 20: 33 New
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          Kolomoisky and Avakov are not friends at all. Everyone pulls a blanket over themselves.
    2. carstorm 11 17 February 2020 07: 04 New
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      But what do you think is the main reason for the actions in Crimea in the year 14?
      1. bistrov. 17 February 2020 07: 28 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        the main reason for the actions in Crimea in the year 14?

        Absolutely necessary measure: the threat of losing the naval base in Sevastopol, and with it the entire Black Sea.
        1. Ka-52 17 February 2020 14: 08 New
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          Absolutely necessary measure: the threat of losing the naval base in Sevastopol, and with it the entire Black Sea.

          base probably, but not the Black Sea (from a military-strategic point of view). Because at the same time as the events in Ukraine, the plan for expanding the naval base in Novorossiysk was already being considered (in case of the loss of Sevastopol)
  2. bessmertniy 17 February 2020 06: 32 New
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    Zelensky continues to break comedy.
    1. Mouse 17 February 2020 06: 37 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      Zelensky continues to break comedy.

      who studied what ..... it came in handy .... yes
      1. novel66 17 February 2020 07: 15 New
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        you won’t drink skill! lol hi Vasya! hi
        1. Mouse 17 February 2020 07: 28 New
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          Roman, welcome! hi
          once learned to ride a bike - never forget how! wink
    2. Ravil_Asnafovich 17 February 2020 06: 46 New
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      Yes, they had a Chugunkin, infected the campaign wassat.
      1. bessmertniy 17 February 2020 06: 50 New
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        What Chugunkin did not have time to invest, Kolomoisky added. lol
        1. Non liberoid Russian 17 February 2020 07: 04 New
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          Moysha here with? he would be glad to let go of donbass, his assets are at least there, but he is strongly opposed to embroidered embroideries, he’ll feed them
          1. bessmertniy 17 February 2020 07: 15 New
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            And Moishe today is just a fan of the comedian.
    3. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 08: 22 New
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      Quote: bessmertniy
      Zelensky continues to break comedy.

      In my opinion, a comedian in politics is like a monkey with a grenade.
    4. knn54 17 February 2020 09: 11 New
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      Good "comedy" - POWERFUL TOTAL sweep of the region (as in Croatia) from the "wrong" population.
  3. Masha 17 February 2020 06: 32 New
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    Pure populism ....
    1. novel66 17 February 2020 07: 16 New
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      dirty, oh dirty, Mashenka ... hi love
      1. Masha 17 February 2020 07: 31 New
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        greeting! love
        continuous sewage .... God forgive me ....
        1. Lelek 17 February 2020 14: 38 New
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          Quote: Masha
          continuous sewage .... God forgive me ....

          hi
          Yeah, the smell is still the same, but in addition to it the aroma is not known by how side Walzmann appeared at the Munich conference. Circus - poorly said.
          1. Masha 17 February 2020 14: 47 New
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            Leo, howdy there! love
            Quote: Lelek
            Yeah, the smell is still the same

            this is no longer a smell .... STink !!! excuse me.. repeat
  4. rocket757 17 February 2020 06: 49 New
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    President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky ...... noted with another original statement,

    Goat in the garden ??? Do not let go !!!
    1. Masha 17 February 2020 07: 33 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Goat in the garden ??? Do not let go !!!

      the gate to the garden must be closed ... yes
      1. rocket757 17 February 2020 08: 03 New
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        Some ... so cunning! Always strive for a hole in the fence to find or break it if it turns out to be too flimsy.
  5. Lipchanin 17 February 2020 07: 12 New
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    “Joint patrolling of the border between the East of Ukraine and Russia”,

    What is it like? To the first bush? Next will be one patrol. LDNR
    1. novel66 17 February 2020 07: 17 New
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      the right word, worse than a combined bathroom !! hi earrings! hi
      1. Lipchanin 17 February 2020 07: 40 New
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        Roman hi
        All the same, they got me yesterday recourse
        Need a pause. I have 9 warnings. Earn 10 business 6 seconds. And they’ll bring
  6. Lamata 17 February 2020 07: 58 New
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    Zelya rushes about like a headless rooster. And there was nothing to climb. I didn’t go to the homeland, but I went to the Poles against anti-Semites, and my grandfather sold his people too.
  7. SeregaBoss 17 February 2020 08: 04 New
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    The under-president of the under-state has once again thrown into a puddle.
    Well, pay attention to this, the Minsk agreements have not been implemented and will not be, we already know that.
  8. Viktor Sergeev 17 February 2020 08: 10 New
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    Uncle raves, no need to pay attention to him. Well, he dreamed it, now everyone is digging it. No need to take the jester’s statements seriously.
    1. Lamata 17 February 2020 08: 16 New
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      Its neurosis has begun, with its activity?
      1. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 08: 28 New
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        Quote: Lamata
        Its neurosis has begun, with its activity?

        "Have you had any accidents at the construction site? ... There will be" © L. Gaidai "Operation Y and Shurik's other adventures"
        1. Lamata 17 February 2020 08: 30 New
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          Well, we are waiting for Zelia to understand that in the garbage can you find some goodies, but on the whole it stinks and you can pick up the infection.
          1. Sergey Olegovich 17 February 2020 08: 35 New
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            Quote: Lamata
            you can find some goodies in the garbage, but on the whole it stinks and you can pick up the infection

            It makes no difference to cockroaches and rats, they say they can survive a nuclear explosion ...
            1. Lamata 17 February 2020 12: 20 New
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              Just what they mutate after the explosion.
  9. JonnyT 17 February 2020 08: 27 New
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    Seeing what is happening in the idlib, with the failure to fulfill the Astana, Sochi treaties. Zelia and Natsik "drisne at bloomers". So we ran to Munich to scream
  10. Sapsan136 17 February 2020 09: 04 New
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    In other words, Kiev again wants to, under the guise of false peacekeepers, slaughter all Russians in the Donbas, repeating the Serb genocide in Kosovo ... This once again suggests that negotiations with Kiev are useless, and the patriots of Ukraine and other foreign states who have lost their way in Russia, hissing at Russia, it’s time to deprive the citizenship of the Russian Federation, for Russophobia and anti-Russian activity and to expel home ... These are foreign bandits, spies and saboteurs, patients with Russophobia ... and not workers and not citizens of the Russian Federation ...
  11. BAI
    BAI 17 February 2020 09: 19 New
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    Yes, everyone has long decided that:
    1. The Minsk agreements are dead.
    2. Kiev, of course, will not fulfill them.
    Everything else is verbiage to keep up appearances.
  12. Ros 56 17 February 2020 09: 23 New
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    This club steroosovy pretending to be the Ukrainian president and can not read, and also deaf.
    GDP has clearly and repeatedly said, and everywhere in the media it has been voiced and published, if you fight in the Donbass, your statehood will end.
    Well let them try
    1. Egoza 17 February 2020 09: 35 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      fight in the Donbass, your statehood will end.
      Well let them try

      Yes Yes Yes! Back in 14g. they said: "Let them only try to bomb!" And where? Bombed for a sweet soul! "We are not leaving our own!" And where? They sent Pan P ..... Well, thanks!
  13. Egoza 17 February 2020 09: 30 New
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    It would be nice for Pan Ze to clarify, but where is this border? The administrative that was under the USSR is, but the state still is not.
  14. Butchcassidy 17 February 2020 11: 46 New
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    It's not gonna go. Behind the Republic of Srpska and Srpska Krajina was not Russia.
  15. Victor N 17 February 2020 15: 36 New
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    Russia sent another humanitarian convoy. Would a "joint patrol" miss?
  16. iouris 19 February 2020 18: 02 New
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    LC and DNI also need to use the "experience of Croatia."