Kiev is ready to offer LDNR joint control over the border with Russia

Ukraine is ready to control and patrol the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Donbas with joint patrols. According to Foreign Minister Vadim Pristayko, in Kiev, they agree on the entry into patrols of representatives of the OSCE and territories not controlled by Kiev. This is reported by Ukrainian media.

Kiev agrees to control the Russian border with the help of joint patrols, which, in addition to Ukrainian border guards, will include representatives of the unrecognized republics of Donbass and the OSCE. Such an opportunity, according to Priestayko, was discussed from the very beginning of the Minsk negotiation process.

This proposal is sensitive for Ukraine, since it is about the participation in the patrols of security forces from the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass. We decide how to do this, taking into account the experience of, for example, Croatia - how to reach a decision, in the first place, to ensure security in this territory. Perhaps by then to hold elections

- said Priestayko.

Earlier, President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky announced consent to joint control of the Russian-Ukrainian border. Within the framework of the Munich Conference, he emphasized that such joint patrolling together with representatives of the self-proclaimed republics is necessary, first of all, for holding elections in the territory of Donbass according to Ukrainian laws.

Zelensky noted that he had already raised this issue at the meeting of the "Norman Four".

I think that we have the opportunity to suppress that there were both Ukrainians and representatives of the temporarily occupied territories, as well as the OSCE

- said the Ukrainian president, adding that without Kiev’s control of the border with Russia, no elections will be held in the Donbass.

Comments

[Kleber]

The siloviki of LDNR will cope without Ukrainian border guards. Yes, and they actually have nothing to patrol. It is our Russian side who needs to be patrolled to suppress the illegal transport of small arms to the Russian Federation.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Kleber

The siloviki of LDNR will cope without Ukrainian border guards.

Unless to put a dividing strip on the western outlines of the LC and the DNI!
There you can put reinforced outfits to bypass!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kleber

The siloviki of LDNR will cope without Ukrainian border guards.

But how beautifully they lie "Kuev is ready to offer." Sounds like "The Third Reich in 1944 is ready to offer the USSR joint control over the Soviet-Iranian border"

[Machito]

One thing only surprises me: why haven’t they even dug the metro from Donetsk through Lugansk to Rostov?

[hydrox]

Without Kiev’s control of the border with Russia, no elections will be held in the Donbass.

It’s not clear here: but what has Zelik already banned ANY elections in LDNR?
Does he really think that LDNR will obey his ban?
However, he has already gained a very great height: when they fall from such a height, they will certainly break his neck ... there is no parachute!

[Zoldat_A]

Why do we need some kind of "joint" control? To listen to the next portion of sewage from Ukraine?
LDNRs themselves can do very well, as practice shows. And without us, and even more so, without Ukraine ...

[210ox]

In fact, that border should not be anymore. Only administrative.

[Chervonny]

I don’t get it at all. Do they propose or OSCE? In any case, let them go through the forest with their joint patrols.

We decide how to do this, given the experience of, for example, Croatia

They want to adopt the experience of the destruction of the Serbs of the Croatians? Nonsense, natural Nazism sounds from the lips of this Prikayko.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Red

They want to adopt the experience of the destruction of the Serbs of the Croatians?

Bandera has more experience in extermination than the Croats. Introduce the border guard together with Lao PDR-Ukraine, it is like in 1945 the border guard of the NKVD together with Bandera.

[Holgerton]

Or as a joint Germany-USSR parade in 1939, just unthinkable nonsense.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Holgerton

Or as a joint Germany-USSR parade in 1939, just unthinkable nonsense.

But this is the same as the participation of the Armed Forces in the NATO exercises. We cannot imagine, but for you, joy. Each has his own ideas, we have one Russian, and you have others Mr. Holgerton.

[Holgerton]

It's time to start writing "sarcasm"

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Holgerton

Or as a joint Germany-USSR parade in 1939, just unthinkable nonsense.

I don’t understand what they threw into the "cons" - after all, nonsense, in fact, is excellent!

One amendment - not in the 39th, but in the 45th. So much cooler ...

[Holgerton]

That feeling when the signature "sarcasm" is really needed

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Holgerton

Or as a joint Germany-USSR parade in 1939, just unthinkable nonsense.

There was no parade. The Germans seized non-Polish territory, and therefore left Brest under our control. Brest was located to the east of the "Curzon Line" - the generally recognized border between the USSR and Poland.

[Machito]

We will show you everything now!
-Don't show us anything!
Now we will show you everything ourselves! (C) to / f Garage.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

To listen to the next portion of sewage from Ukraine?

Shpigunov and Bandera sabotage to send to Russia.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tihonmarine

Shpigunov and Bandera sabotage to send to Russia.

Enough for the FSB. Then let the "Main Mouthpiece of Freedom" BBC bark that there is no democracy in Russia.

Let them bark, for 50 years we are accustomed to and do not pay attention.

[Looking for]

specify. and for what .50 years ???? while I counted from 1991 to 2020, -29 years and then-shame.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Seeker

specify. and for what .50 years ???? while I counted from 1991 to 2020, -29 years and then-shame.

Read the history of Radio Liberty on Wikipedia.
When, with whose money and why it was created. I also recommend "Free Europe". Especially look at the names - Dr. Goebbels died, but his work lives on ...

And the money is American. And nobody canceled the American operation "Paperclip" ...

[Lexus]

We decide how to do this, taking into account the experience of, for example, Croatia - how to reach a decision, in the first place, to ensure security in this territory.

I think we have the opportunity to finish

The people's republics should always remember the experience of the Serbian Krajina, which no longer exists, because "purely for the sake of safety"
the Serbs were completely "squeezed out" from it.

[210ox]

This is primarily true for those in the Kremlin. The republics themselves will not cope.

[Lexus]

"The Kremlin", alas, is hopelessly entangled in "streams" (both completed and "not very"), Turkish "friends", testimonies on the downed Boeing (the Dutch make it clear on whose "fuselage" will be "painted" his silhouette) and "amendments" to the Constitution.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lexus

"Kremlin", alas, is hopelessly entangled in "streams"

But the adherents of the Kremlin are working to the full, you have minuses like a fool shag. Work out the lads.

[Lexus]

But the adherents of the Kremlin work in full, you have minuses

In the absence of sound arguments, they have nothing else left.

Work out the lads

The evening session "Teletubbies" in pink glasses and under haloperidol deserved.
I hope that at least the government procurements of psycholeptics did not fail, as happened with other medicines for those in need.

[Gene84]

The Kiev authorities are trying to achieve the same

[Lelek]

Quote: lexus

People’s republics should always remember the experience of Serbian Krajina

Yes, this must be taken into account not only in LDNR but also in our government, since under the curtain of empty chatter of the Kiev comedian the APU is methodically building up forces on the line of confrontation with the republics.

[Lexus]

Leo, welcome!
The "Kremlin" made a number of strategic miscalculations, if not maliciously, then because of the narrow-mindedness of the court sycophants appointed to the most important positions, and has a bad habit of "smoothing out" them with concessions and "offerings" with "eyes wide shut". And the "couch patriots" put forward "minuses" consider their duty fulfilled. What can you take from them - they are "in a madhouse". On the front line, other ichtamnets are dying.

[hydrox]

Aw, well done!
Excellent and important infa, almost ready intelligence!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: lexus

We decide how to do this, taking into account the experience of, for example, Croatia - how to reach a decision, in the first place, to ensure security in this territory.

I think we have the opportunity to finish

The people's republics should always remember the experience of the Serbian Krajina, which no longer exists, because "purely for the sake of safety"
the Serbs were completely "squeezed out" from it.

Alex, !
An instructive example of American "democracy". Not three hundred years ago it was - practically "yesterday" ...

Three hundred years ago, there was no America either ...

[Lexus]

Igor, good to see!
Experience shows that the unlearned lessons of "democracy" are very costly.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: lexus

Igor, good to see!
Experience shows that the unlearned lessons of "democracy" are very costly.

I don’t remember whose words I can’t vouch for verbatim, according to the general principle

"Remember what happened and don't let it happen in the future."

In my opinion, Lesha, I correctly said ...

[Lexus]

"Remember what happened and don't let it happen in the future."

Yes, in relation to the experienced failures, more than appropriate. For

He who does not remember his past is doomed to relive it again.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

And hell (plant) they do not need a collar?

[major147]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

A plant they do not need a collar?

On the one hand, will they "guard" the LDNR, and on the other, continue to fire? Let either the cross be removed or the panties put on! (from)

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: major147

Let them either remove the cross or put on their underpants! (with)

Where is there plus a thousand to put?

[major147]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Where is there plus a thousand to put?

Enemies have mined you here, this is the best reward, in my opinion. So it got through ...

[hydrox]

Kuev is humbling!
Indeed, even for the very first time, having gone out on joint patrol, the patrol will return without VSUshnikov - I don’t even suppose that such a thing could have happened on the route ... they are being squeezed in a friendly embrace or kissed?

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

I am not a great commander, not Vanga, all the more so, but for some reason it seems to me that until the troops of the "South Severs" snatch out again, until they retreat "heroically" from the "kotols", they will still puff up, create mixed "iskadril" , develop the next barbaros plans ...

[hydrox]

Yes, Sebastian, they will pound them, but they will not be pushed into the boilers according to the Supreme Plan, but according to the LDNR plans, and the VSUshniki will be cooked in these boilers on Donetsk coal, and not on Galician dung, so the brew will be final and not subject to appeal!
And about plans: the term BARBOSYM would be more correct, not "barbarossy" - they will NEVER live to see "Barbarossa's plan" again!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

And hell (plant) they do not need a collar?

I would even say differently. You, I feel, too. BUT... Admins banned .... We will think about what you did not write about. And drink for THAT ...

[Kleber]

It is surprising that Kiev still did not offer to build the wall of Yatsenyuk

[Gene84]

They have dumb pennies. Otherwise, it has long been erected.

[Kleber]

It's not a penny matter. How much Yaytsenyuk squeezed out these pennies during construction is approximately clear. And the wall turned out worse than that of a summer resident around the garden. Just the second time you can’t scroll such a scheme.

[beeper]

Nedoführer of the "Maidan" Senya Kulyavlob quickly "made" his first billion uev "and, as" an honest fraer (until the offended fellow accomplices "soaked in a gold toilet bowl" his Mezhygirsky mansion, next to the Mezhygorsk mansion-" same boundless greed when "posting" state "financial flows"!) "," jumped off "- in front of a pig's squeal, he pulled away under the" roof "of his overseas hucksters!

[hydrox]

Well write, tight: in the second edition, too ...

[Chervonny]

Quote: Kleber

Just the second time you can’t scroll such a scheme.

These will scroll. Only in another way, they say, let's say neutral, the construction / strengthening of fortified areas / new sections along the borders with the country of the aggressor. And what will be meant by the concept of erection / strengthening is not given to anyone except the lobbyist.

[Ros 56]

Yeah schaz, spend on the wall.
For money own pockets are available.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kleber

It is surprising that Kiev still did not offer to build the wall of Yatsenyuk

Already built 300 meters for 4 mln. UAH.

[Kleber]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Kleber

It is surprising that Kiev still did not offer to build the wall of Yatsenyuk

Already built 300 meters for 4 mln. UAH.

The site that Senya inspects in the photo has already been removed due to the fact that the boars (or maybe local residents) turned it into a sieve.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

Already built 300 meters for 4 mln. UAH.

I am begging you.
In the rain, a proposal was made to dig a moat and fill it with acid.
Which bottom is already broken?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

In the rain, I received a proposal to dig a moat and fill it with acid

Fence stolen, stolen and acid (on batteries)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Piramidon

Fence stolen, stolen and acid (on batteries)

Yes, they will push the ditch to their hut

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Kleber

the wall of Yatsenyuk

How - it was already ....

Not a tanker ever. BMP-BMD on the armor - the whole experience.
Explain, who are the professionals - THIS will keep the "Russian tanks"?

Either I’m in tanks, or in the fences I don’t understand a damn (a plant like that).

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Explain, who are the professionals - THIS will keep the "Russian tanks"?

And why should tanks go in this place?
A kilometer to the left, or something will change to the right?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

A kilometer to the left, or something will change to the right?

Yaytsenyuk probably thinks that will change.

Old tank joke

What hinders the advance of tank troops?

Hollows, hollows and hollows .....

Yaytsenyuk, in my opinion, is just one of the third ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Yaytsenyuk, in my opinion, is just one of the third ...

Yes, he is not alone there
Lonely thinking sea

[Sapsan136]

Hold, for 5 minutes ... Crews will laugh in front of this chicken fence ...

[is-22]

I propose joint patrolling of the streets of Kiev.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: is-22

I propose joint patrolling of the streets of Kiev.

Do you want to say that half of the patrol will not reach the house?

[AVA77]

Hello to you
The plane is flying,
the wings are erased
but we did not wait for you
and you got puffed up.

[kit88]

No, as smart as a hundred Chinese.
Does LDNR need it?
In short, as someone said: "Read the Minsk agreements." Everything is written there, when, what should happen.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: kit88

In short, as someone said: "Read the Minsk agreements." Everything is written there

And they are written in theirs one hundred thousand? And then they will again zakosyat: "We will not reason the Occupant MOV ...."

[mark1]

Without Kiev’s control of the border with Russia, no elections will be held in the Donbass.

No, there is no trial, Donbass will hold its elections and let it be undone.

[falx]

Already carried out. The successor to Zakharchenko in the DPR was chosen without any consent of Kiev, and even in spite of his protests. So, there is no need for fundamental consent on the part of Kiev for the elections in LDN.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Falx

Successor Zakharchenko in the DNI was chosen without any consent of Kiev

And who in general is some kind of Kiev in LDNR? Yes, that Kiev would go FOREST.

I got six boys from the company there. He dressed, shod, armed, gave money with him so that they would not look like halakhas. The guys are Russian, just the govind is what you need.

[thekhohol]

And who is there to guard?
Or nothing more to do?

[Masha]

I think we have the opportunity to finish

Will the crush break?

[Tuzik]

This phrase immediately shows an inexperienced politician still Zelya

[Masha]

Not a magician, just learning ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Masha

Not a wizard, just learning.

Gyyyyy
"I wanted to make a thunderstorm, but I got a goat,
Pink goat with a yellow stripe.
Instead of a tail leg, and on the leg of a horn,
I don't want to meet that goat again. "

[Masha]

About the goat ...
A man is walking across the field. He is looking at the well. He came up and looked in - the bottom is not visible.
I shouted at him, listened, silence, no echo. "Strange," he thinks.
He picked up a pebble and threw it into the well, again listened. Silence.
He took a big stone and put it there. He is standing there, listening. Nothing! Che for garbage!
I looked around — what else would I give up? —Near a piece of the rail was lying around. Well, man
prestressed, lifted the rail, laid on the edge of the well, still strained
and crossed it over the edge. He bent and listened. Suddenly he hears, behind
"melon-melon-melon." He turned around, looked, the goat was rushing right at him at full speed.
At the last moment he managed to bounce to the side, looks, but the goat did not turn
from all over I’ll run right into the ciganul well ... The dumbfounded man is standing:
can’t understand what’s going on. It’s worth it. Suddenly, behind his shoulder
someone touches. Turns around, there is another man and asks him:
-Listen, my goat grazed here, didn’t you see her by chance?
"Well, well," - the man thinks. - "It's a strange place here. I'd better say that
I have not seen - I will be more whole. "
“I haven’t,” he says.
- Strange, where is she?
-Maybe I ran away to where?
-Where could she escape, she was tied to the rail!
Once again the bottom is pierced ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Masha

Once again, the bottom is pierced.

Already tens

[AVA77]

He tested the crush on the piano sort of withstood, and that's showing off.

[Masha]

The piano also did not disappoint, withstood all stayed with its ...

[AVA77]

Somehow he’ll pincer the piano lid, it’ll not seem enough

[orionvitt]

with representatives of self-proclaimed republics

But it’s interesting. Ukraine itself, is it not a self-proclaimed republic, since 1991? of the year? The territory broke off accidentally to her, she has no continuity, in essence, of the former separatist territory of Russia and, moreover, which lost its legitimacy in the course of the anti-constitutional military coup of 1914. So whose cow would moo. Unlike the republics of Donbass, which defended their right with weapons in their hands and their blood.

[Tuzik]

Quote: orionvitt

Ukraine itself, is it not a self-proclaimed republic? The territory broke off by accident

You know perfectly well that the bomb was planted 100 years ago, and it was detonated in the 91st in Moscow. All claims against Lenin and Gorbachev.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I completely agree! England - for leaving the EU, is obliged to pay about 40 lard. And here, after Belovezhskaya Pushcha, the forelocks (and others, however, too) all received nothing - from the army to industry. True and all this, stupidly stolen.

[orionvitt]

Quote: orionvitt

1914 anti-constitutional military coup

Typo. Of course, 2014.

[askort154]

We decide how to do this, taking into account the experience of, for example, Croatia - how to reach a decision, in the first place, to ensure security in this territory.

Of course of course ! You are the most cunning. Out of habit, you want to bite all the apples.
Open your eyes, there are no more apples. Instead of apples, you stupidly bitten the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR. Already everyone is tired of their nonsense, even in the USAEC.

[ibn.shamai]

_ "Kiev agrees ...." And whoever called him there?

[pafegosoff]

And what :? Our diplomats and not so ... substituted. Russia is nothing for diplomats! This is "this country" where their ancestors were born, but grandchildren will not be born ...

[Kleber]

Quote: pafegosoff

This is "this country" where their ancestors were born, but grandchildren will not be born ...

Let's leave our grandchildren alone for a while and ask: "Who cares about the country where your ancestors were born and where you yourself was born?"

[Zaurbek]

Border control there point 25th .....

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

No ,, joint ,,! ,, together ,, - let the border with Transcarpathia and Odessa region, guard. There is no faith for these brothers.

[Vasyan1971]

in the first place to ensure security in this territory.

Kaneshna! The main condition for border security is the absence of stiff Raguli on it.

[Lamata]

What does LDNR give?

[Lelek]

I think that we have the opportunity to suppress that there were both Ukrainians and representatives of the temporarily occupied territories, as well as the OSCE

There is an opportunity to crush your "Faberge". Especially against the background of decisions taken by Kiev, ignoring the opinion of the republics:

Not to mention the decisions regarding Ruin's "citizenship":

You are amazed looking at these "inventors". Their energy would be for digging the Kiev inland sea.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lelek

Their energy would be on the digging of the Kiev inland sea.

Well, or bypassing the Crimean bridge, the channel into the Sea of ​​Azov

[Ros 56]

This type of fox had an ice house, but the bunny hare and she asked to live with the hare when she melted? Well, well, what’s the matter then ended everyone knows.
And then we will have to get the braid, well, crap these banderlogs.
I do not understand why this homegrown comedian is so stupid, did not read fairy tales in childhood?

[gurzuf]

The clown and the approach to solving the problem is the same. He does not want to talk, but please do not want to patrol with those with whom he talks.

[K-50]

Ukraine is ready to control and patrol the Russian-Ukrainian border in the Donbas with joint patrols.

Aha, and LDNR needs it? As the saying goes, "let the goat into the garden."

[falx]

to finish?
curious choice of expressions to characterize the course of negotiations. do not agree on .. or bargain for something, but to finish ...
hmm ...
Zelenka all the same forgot that to push you need strength! and the former Ukrainian SSR does not have it, we were all convinced of this in 2014-15 ... how do they "press" to push through their Wishlist?

that without Kiev’s control of the border with Russia, no elections will be held in the Donbass.

hmm .. Zelenka wants to cancel the Minsk Treaty? and there, after all, the sequence is clearly spelled out. first elections, and not at all according to Ukrainian laws, but according to a certain law agreed with the "unrecognized" ones. And only after the elections, and again in agreement with the LPNR (that is, joint) control over the border ...

tired of these Kiev dreamers and their Wishlist, Or let them fulfill the Minsk agreement, including all obligations, or even then completely abandon it. A third is not given to them!

[Thrifty]

“Fear the Danes, who bring gifts!” - in the republics this rule should be posted on banners everywhere!

[Looking for]

".." It is necessary to give the scum any such promises, guarantees and make any concessions. And we will hang them ... We will hang them later, "the Kiev regime has never forgotten this phrase of Dnepropetrovsk" mayor "Filatov.

[pmkemcity]

LDNR should be offered Kiev joint control over the entire administrative border - Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporizhzhya regions.

[ANB]

And limit it to that.

[Finn]

I didn’t understand who asked them. I’ll be elections in Donbass or not ...

[Lekz]

Ukraine’s willingness to control and patrol can only worry Ukraine. In the Minsk agreements it is written that they should worry in the right turn. When it comes to the border, you can talk. In the meantime, let them worry about a ceasefire and a divorce.

[cniza]

Kiev is ready to offer LDNR joint control over the border with Russia

They have a bad head at all, even theoretically hard to imagine ...

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

It sounds as ridiculous as if the LPNR authorities offered Kiev to "jointly patrol" the border of Ukraine and Poland in the Lvov region

[ioan-e]

An exaggerated arrogance, with the same success LDNR can jointly patrol the Ukrainian-Polish border!

[Victor March 47]

It is better, of course, to establish joint patrols of the border between Ukraine and Poland.
For, the Minsk agreements stipulate the border with Russia, and do not stipulate with Poland.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Victor March 47

It is better, of course, to establish joint patrols of the border between Ukraine and Poland.

Does LDNR need it?

[BMP-2]

Is Kiev ready to offer LDNR joint control over the border with Poland :?)

[anjey]

Joint patrols, so that at the right moment some become hostages of others ????

[Adimius38]

Well, for the DNI, the LC is not profitable, but now they are all calmly passing through a controlled area with access to the Russian checkpoint, and they are also quietly passing from the Russian side in the opposite direction.

[rocket757]

Let the goat into the garden .... the result is known in advance.

[Romka47]

A good offer, it’s possible and together since they so want the Russian-Ukrainian border to patrol BUT ONLY from the side of Belgorod

[Russian_man]

Dear residents of Donbass, I appeal to everyone who has ... paints and brushes. For some ridiculous stupidity, you and I are now two different states, but one people. And therefore, in order not to get confused in what is happening, all who will come to you because of the Eurobug and strive to "guard" something from you, feel free to paint it RED. Gather the most talented artists and other ... painters of a larger scale, and draw, paint, paint, ... until THERE it becomes clear that the Russian land has not yet become depleted in talent and prospectors.
Very soon, nothing will be worth more in this life than land and freedom on it. They will come to you to unsubscribe your not to your children. They will write, and you draw.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: Victor March 47

It is better, of course, to establish joint patrols of the border between Ukraine and Poland.

Does LDNR need it?

Wait a bit. See that this is reality.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Not really in this ass called Ukraine there are no smart people left?

[Alexey from Perm]

Zelya for the military scenario

[Sapsan136]

I don’t think that after the genocide that Bandera organized in the Donbass, something other than bullets awaits them ..

[lvov_aleksey]

I agree, let them sit and look out, if only their eyes do not spoil !!! ))))))))