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Pro-Turkish groups hit the Syrian army near Aleppo

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Pro-Turkish groups hit the Syrian army near Aleppo

Armed Syrian opposition units on the side of Turkey on Sunday launched an offensive against government positions in the Idlib de-escalation zone. This was reported by Sky News Arabia.


According to published data, the offensive of the pro-Turkish groups is in the west of the Syrian province of Aleppo, the offensive is supported by Turkish artillery. In addition, there is evidence that fighters from the Jebhat al-Nusra terrorist group, banned in Russia, are taking part in the attack.

Also, according to the channel, Turkish forces launched a missile attack on the positions of the Syrian army in the northern part of Aleppo province.

At the moment, nothing is reported about the result of the militant attack and the consequences of the Turks missile attack.

Earlier it was reported that Turkey deployed significant forces to the territory of Idlib province, including armored vehicles and field artillery, some of which were transferred to militants from groups supporting Turkey.

Recall that the day before, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened Damascus with an immediate military response if the government forces did not withdraw to the positions that they occupied in 2018 and did not return the liberated territories to the control of militants.
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  1. Sergey39
    Sergey39 16 February 2020 13: 12
    -1
    The last attempt, doomed to failure.
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 28
      +11
      I hope the artillery and ATGM and multiple launch rocket systems in the Syrian Army in abundance. The sky cannot be given to the Turks over Idlib! To gain a foothold in the conquered territories and restrain the onslaught of the barmalei coupled with the Turkish special forces and their own armor. I’m more interested: will a tomato friend decide to strike with his regular parts all the way to Damascus? hi
      1. Vladimir_6
        Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 13: 31
        +2
        Quote: Arberes
        I’m more interested: will a tomato friend decide to strike with his regular parts all the way to Damascus?

        No, it will not be decided.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 34
          +5
          Quote: Vladimir_6

          No, it will not be decided.

          If Russia shows firmness, it certainly will not dare. It is interesting to know: we train Syrian pilots ??????????
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 14: 07
            +3
            Quote: Arberes
            Quote: Vladimir_6

            No, it will not be decided.

            If Russia shows firmness, it certainly will not dare.

            "Moscow has accused Ankara of disrupting agreements to de-escalate the conflict in Idlib immediately after 'pretty good' negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.
            Read more at RBC:
            https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5e48296c9a7947dcc8344677?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
        2. Gene84
          Gene84 16 February 2020 14: 19
          +10
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          No, it will not be decided.

          It all depends on our position. If we talk hard, Turkey will not even rock the boat; otherwise, anything is possible.
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 14: 35
            -1
            Quote: Gene84
            Quote: Vladimir_6
            No, it will not be decided.

            It all depends on our position. If we talk hard, Turkey will not even rock the boat; otherwise, anything is possible.

            "On February 12, the Turkish president accused Moscow and official Damascus of disrupting agreements to resolve the situation in Idlib. According to him, the forces of President Bashar al-Assad, together with the Russian military, are attacking local residents."
            On the same day, after the charges brought by Ankara, Putin and Erdogan held telephone conversations.
            After them, the Kremlin said that Russia will continue to adhere to the Sochi agreements on the situation in Syria. However, Turkey pledged to ensure the cessation of militants in Idlib, and terrorist groups continue their attacks there, said presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov.
            The Russian Defense Ministry, in turn, refuted Erdogan’s words about the attack in Syria, also calling Turkey’s failure to fulfill its promises the reason for the escalation of the conflict.
            Denied the accusations of Ankara and the Russian Foreign Ministry.
            https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5e48296c9a7947dcc8344677?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 16 February 2020 15: 01
            -2
            Quote: Gene84
            It all depends on our position.

            It is true, everything depends on Russia, but also on Turkey, but a serious "booze" is being started here, it will not end with one bottle.
            1. bayard
              bayard 16 February 2020 21: 40
              0
              Yes, there is already a little left - out of 12 Turkish checkpoints (they were allowed so much), 9 are already in the rear of the Syrian troops. True, they are now deploying new ones, they are throwing up weapons and equipment to the barmels, but it doesn’t help much. Erdogan needs to save face, this is domestic policy - refugees, opposition, previous promises. But a serious war, a conflict with Russia (the present) will not be forgiven for him either. The disease required surgical treatment, it is a little painful, a little scary and insulting, but it will end on the borders of Turkey. And there will be peace.
      2. Avior
        Avior 16 February 2020 15: 07
        0
        And why should he?
        1. boss
          boss 16 February 2020 17: 25
          +2
          and where should he go?
          he needs a terrarium for the Islamists, he needs more than anyone else, although we also need him to some extent.
          they are in Turkey rush to escape.
          Do you represent these characters in Antalya, Side or Kemer ?!
          to keep them there is easier and cheaper and safer.
          but maybe I don’t see the situation correctly, huh ?!
          1. Avior
            Avior 16 February 2020 17: 27
            0
            And for this he needs to send his troops to Damascus?
      3. Charik
        Charik 18 February 2020 02: 16
        0
        who cares where he goes, is already killing Syrian soldiers
    2. xambo
      xambo 16 February 2020 13: 38
      -3
      Quote: Sergey39
      The last attempt, doomed to failure.

      They will lure them into the cauldron .. And then soak the devils from all the trunks!
      Erdogan squeals .. ha ha ha Fuck out of Syria, it is definitely negative
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 February 2020 15: 04
        +7
        Quote: Xambo
        They will lure them into the cauldron .. And then soak the devils from all the trunks!
        Erdogan squeals .. ha ha ha Fuck out of Syria, it is definitely

        I have not been in kindergarten for a long time, my grandchildren grew up. But laughed nobly.
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 16 February 2020 14: 00
      +23
      These are the cards on 15.02.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX. And today the progress is even greater, the boiler is delayed!

      1. Arberes
        Arberes 16 February 2020 14: 11
        +6
        Lord of the Sith Ai, YOU, as always on time hi Thank you, dear drinks
        Yes, you need to use the moment, wherever you can! There will not be enough Turks for the whole Idlib.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 16 February 2020 22: 14
          +3
          Arberes hi Yes, there is no longer a boiler floor

      2. flicker
        flicker 16 February 2020 16: 07
        +1
        And today the progress is even greater, the boiler is delayed!
        If you look today at an interactive map of battles, then the boiler is not so much delayed as it is cooked with might and main.
    4. Maz
      Maz 16 February 2020 15: 48
      +2
      Woo, it started.
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 16 February 2020 13: 14
    +2
    Let them crawl out of their holes.
    Finish, until once again agreed to suspend cleaning.
  3. Demagogue
    Demagogue 16 February 2020 13: 18
    +26
    I wrote yesterday that they would cut highway 62 near Bashkatin. This happened with an accuracy of 500 m. Devils do not want to go into the boiler and counterattack. The smartest of them are already in Antalya. And it’s time for this to pack into pickups everything that is acquired by overwork.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 16 February 2020 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: Demagogue
      I wrote yesterday that they would cut highway 62 near Bashkatin. This happened with an accuracy of 500 m. Devils do not want to go into the boiler and counterattack. The smartest of them are already in Antalya. And it’s time for this to pack into pickups everything that is acquired by overwork.

      If the Turks fit in on a large army, Assad will not survive and withdraw. Ours, too, are unlikely to crawl into this meat grinder, let's see whose nerves are stronger.
      1. Demagogue
        Demagogue 16 February 2020 13: 30
        +16
        Erdogan swore by his mother that he would crush Assad in February. But dogs that bark do not bite.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 16 February 2020 13: 48
        +5
        Quote: Marconi41
        If the Turks fit in on a large army, Assad will not survive and withdraw. Ours, too, are unlikely to crawl into this meat grinder, let's see whose nerves are stronger.

        hi
        The Turks are nervous. Firstly, from a legal point of view, they are occupiers in a foreign land, which they were reminded of in the UN based on the appeal of the Syrian government there, secondly, the barmaley supported by Turkey are not shining a frail boiler with complete defeat, and thirdly Russia has transferred systems to Syria " Sun ", and this is already serious, in the fourth, the Syrian Kurds announced their transition to the side of the government forces, which is fraught with bloody events on the territory of Turkey itself. IMHO, for the Turks, a good way out of the situation would be for Erdogan to hold a meeting with Putin, as a result of which the Turks, with fanfare, would withdraw their units from Syria, which in turn would guarantee a border security zone and autonomy for the Kurds on its territory. But with Trump's fighters is a completely different story.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 16 February 2020 14: 57
          +2
          "Turks are nervous" ///
          ---
          Turks accumulate strength. They have time until the end of February.
          1. Vladimir_6
            Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 16: 50
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            "Turks are nervous" ///
            ---
            Turks accumulate strength. They have time until the end of February.

            Alexei, Erdogan in plain text, through the mouth of Peskov, Moscow Region and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, stated that he was wrong.
            Such statements are not made to shake the air.
            "Turkey has pledged to ensure the cessation of the activities of militants in Idlib, and terrorist groups continue their attacks there," said the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov. The Russian Defense Ministry, in turn, denied Erdogan's words about the attack in Syria, also citing Turkey's failure to comply with promises. Ankara's accusations were also denied in the Russian Foreign Ministry. "
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 16 February 2020 16: 51
              +1
              "said the presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov" ///
              ----
              Sands can only scare Rogozin. smile and then - not really ...
              1. Vladimir_6
                Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 17: 34
                +5
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Sands can only scare Rogozin. and then - not really ...

                Sands were not "scared" to scare someone. The press secretary voiced the position of the President of the Russian Federation, in addition to the statements of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
                It is your Nitanyahu that scares Iran with red lines. Absolutely unsuccessfully. smile
              2. Protos
                Protos 17 February 2020 00: 11
                +4
                Sands are not Jonathan Leus, Schaub scare someone bully
        2. Marconi41
          Marconi41 16 February 2020 15: 31
          -5
          Quote: Lelek
          barmelmeys supported by Turkey shines not a frail boiler with a complete defeat

          Your words, but to God’s ears! Turkey can easily replenish its contingent, and provide its barmaley with weapons, including air defense. And if it also helps with aviation, then Assad’s troops then are definitely kirdyk. Here the only question is Erdogan’s decisiveness, which, incidentally, he has already shown once (we have not forgotten about our downed plane).
          1. flicker
            flicker 16 February 2020 16: 23
            +1
            Turkey can easily replenish its contingent, and provide its barmaley with weapons, including air defense. And if it also helps with aviation, then Assad’s troops then are definitely kirdyk.

            good Yes, from your plan of action, Erdogan’s diarrhea will begin.
            in Erdogan’s determination, which, incidentally, he had already shown once (we did not forget about our downed plane).
            It was only after this "decisiveness" that he suddenly began to apologize.
            This is not decisiveness, this is NON-FUN, and not an excusable miscalculation.
            For this "decisiveness" Atatürk would publicly execute Erdogan as an enemy of Turkey and the entire Turkish people.
            And only our good will preserved Turkey as a state, not to mention the life of Erdogan, only this failed football player did not understand this.
            Z.Y. But the Americans do not risk downing our planes. And then ... decisive was found. Not decisive, but headless.
            1. Stone
              Stone 16 February 2020 16: 40
              +2
              I would like more details about the apology. I only heard about regret.
              1. flicker
                flicker 17 February 2020 00: 44
                0
                I would like more details about the apology. I only heard about regret.
                There are even in writing on the website of the President of Russia:
                "From the text of the message of Recep Erdogan:" I want to once again express my sympathy and deep condolences to the family of the deceased Russian pilot and I say: “Sorry.” With all my heart I share their pain. We perceive the family of the Russian pilot as a Turkish family. ”
                Or is there still doubt?
            2. Altai72
              Altai72 16 February 2020 17: 16
              +1
              Can you throw off the apology link?
              1. flicker
                flicker 16 February 2020 19: 34
                -1
                I can even text
                "The text of the letter of apology from Erdogan appeared in the public domain
                The text of the letter appeared on the website of the President of Russia. It emphasizes that Turkey never had a desire to bring down a plane belonging to the Russian Federation.

                Erdogan emphasized that the Turkish side had taken the body from the Syrian opposition, after which all pre-funeral procedures were carried out at a level worthy of relations between Russia and Turkey.

                From the text of the message of Recep Erdogan: “I want to once again express my sympathy and deep condolences to the family of the deceased Russian pilot and say:“ Sorry. “ With all my heart I share their pain. We perceive the family of the Russian pilot as a Turkish family. ”

                The Turkish leader added that Ankara is ready for any initiative to alleviate this pain and the severity of the damage.

                In addition, the text notes that the Turkish side is investigating a Turkish citizen, "whose name is associated with the death of a Russian pilot." That the criminal proceedings against Alparslan Celik have been resumed "
              2. Alex Nevs
                Alex Nevs 17 February 2020 20: 04
                0
                I support. I was looking for. But everywhere there are all kinds of reposts.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 February 2020 15: 09
        -1
        Quote: Marconi41
        Ours, too, are unlikely to crawl into this meat grinder, let's see whose nerves are stronger.

        I agree, they will not climb. And if they climb, they will immediately lose the path to supply from Russia to Syria.
      4. RVAPatriot
        RVAPatriot 17 February 2020 13: 08
        0
        Ours is temporarily possible, and there is the option of striking the Kyrgyz Republic as sobering, in vain the Turks are so carelessly giving out their uniforms .... They beat the militants, who is to blame for some reason in uniform
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 30
      +6
      Quote: Demagogue
      The smartest of them are already in Antalya.

      Those a little dumber in Libya? hi drinks
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 February 2020 13: 21
    +2
    Expected. I really hope that the Syrians will keep their positions. Not so much "armor" the Turks threw there. And the barmaleev reserves are not endless. Our VKS "hold the sky" over Idlib. It all depends on the resilience of the Syrian units.
    1. Arberes
      Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 36
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It all depends on the resilience of the Syrian units.

      And from our policy.
      YES, if the VKS keep the sky above Idlib, then the Turks will not dare. It is as clear as God's day.
      1. Marconi41
        Marconi41 16 February 2020 15: 36
        -2
        Quote: Arberes
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        It all depends on the resilience of the Syrian units.

        And from our policy.
        YES, if the VKS keep the sky above Idlib, then the Turks will not dare. It is as clear as God's day.

        The sky over this province is difficult to keep; Turkey’s superiority in aviation is simply colossal. Yes, and the border is close, again, Turkey also has air defense, it’s not even necessary to drag it to Syria. In general, everything is complicated! The trump cards in the hands of the Sultan are greater than ours.
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 16 February 2020 17: 06
          +2
          All right, dear Marconi41 And that's not all. We must still manage not to quarrel with the Turks so much that they would not block the Bosphorus. Here is the problem!
          1. Charik
            Charik 18 February 2020 02: 23
            0
            you can lay a new strait, only Istanbul will wash away, as Gromyko said in my opinion
        2. Protos
          Protos 17 February 2020 00: 20
          0
          Well, if osmen are ready to lose up to 100 boards in 30 minutes, yes there is an advantage laughing
          They can simply reload the air defense system’s channels with meat bully
          1. Marconi41
            Marconi41 17 February 2020 00: 48
            -1
            Quote: Protos
            Well, if osmen are ready to lose up to 100 boards in 30 minutes, yes there is an advantage laughing
            They can simply reload the air defense system’s channels with meat bully

            And who will shoot them down? They can easily crush the Syrians, and our complexes guard our own bases, which simply cannot be left without cover. And, in this case, our bases may get it anyway. Not so numerous in terms of weapons.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 16 February 2020 13: 22
    +5
    “Erdogad was furious!” Saved on his own head, it will be necessary to draw conclusions, and the next military coup in Turkey should be more successful!
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 February 2020 13: 39
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      The next military coup in Turkey should be more successful!

      As a result, more frostbitten and unpredictable may come to the place of Edik.
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 43
        -1
        Quote: Piramidon
        As a result, a more frostbitten and unpredictable may come to the place of Edik.

        Probably this would happen, dear Piramidon hi In the United States of America, a very good approach to fresh staff. The Sultan has his own opinion.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 16 February 2020 15: 29
          -3
          Quote: Arberes
          Probably this would happen, dear Piramidon

          As long as the states need Edik, it will be the Sultan, when he works out his own, they will lower him down the toilet.
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 16 February 2020 17: 09
            -2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            As long as the states need Edik, it will be the Sultan

            The states themselves tried to merge it ... once. Or do you think that was not serious?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 16 February 2020 18: 15
              -1
              Quote: Arberes
              The states themselves tried to merge it ... once. Or do you think that was not serious?

              Seriously, they would have kicked NATO long ago.
              1. Arberes
                Arberes 16 February 2020 18: 21
                0
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Seriously, they would have kicked NATO long ago.

                Turkey is the key to the Black Sea. The Black Sea and the Bosphorus are such a trump card in the hands of the Sultan that everyone will forgive him for him. Nobody will ever let Turkey out of NATO, unless she herself wants to leave.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 16 February 2020 20: 28
                  0
                  Quote: Arberes
                  Nobody will ever let Turkey out of NATO, unless she herself wants to leave.

                  I doubt, remember France.
                  1. Arberes
                    Arberes 16 February 2020 23: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    remember France.

                    France (De Gaulle) left NATO itself if memory serves me right.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 17 February 2020 06: 51
                      0
                      Quote: Arberes
                      France (De Gaulle) left NATO itself if memory serves me right.

                      And so, when Sarkozy came back in.
                    2. Spambox
                      Spambox 18 February 2020 08: 33
                      +1
                      Not only that, she came out, she also asked for gold back, thereby delivering a lot of "pop" pain to the US administration
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 18 February 2020 09: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Spambox
                        Not only that, she came out, she also asked for gold back, thereby delivering a lot of "pop" pain to the US administration

                        And for some reason Charles de Gaulle resigned. NATO does not forgive arbitrariness for its apostates.
              2. Spambox
                Spambox 18 February 2020 08: 31
                0
                Aha 2 in the size of the NATO army with a kick with the words "Pshel out the prankster's dog." Very funny, I hope you have such subtle humor or are you serious?
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 18 February 2020 09: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Spambox
                  Aha 2 in the size of the NATO army with a kick with the words "Pshel out the prankster's dog."

                  And Sultan Edik understands all this, and squeezes everything that he can from Donikaov and Vovikov.
    2. cost
      cost 16 February 2020 13: 53
      +1
      Well, to be completely precise, it was not us, but Kazakhs, who reported on Erdogan’s attempt at the Turkish coup. Notifying all CSTO countries as well. But Erdogan’s plane during these events cut circles in our airspace, under the protection of our Air Force. Wash, if I'm not mistaken over the Crimea
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 16 February 2020 15: 32
      +1
      "Saved on your own head," ///
      ---
      I agree with you. In vain, Russia then intervened.
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 17 February 2020 20: 07
        0
        No. Not in vain!!!!
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 18 February 2020 09: 05
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh

        "Saved on your own head," ///
        ---
        I agree with you. In vain, Russia then intervened.

        And what do you think, the new sultan would be better than Edik?
  6. polk26l
    polk26l 16 February 2020 13: 29
    0
    The Syrians need to use the "reserves"! Yes, finish with this new-minded insolent "Sultan"! Tomorrow in Moscow negotiations with the Turks, they need to be warned that aggression against a sovereign state is dangerous for the aggressor - destruction and consequences !!!
  7. Professor Preobrazhensky
    Professor Preobrazhensky 16 February 2020 13: 31
    -12
    Nothing changes in this life.
    Yesterday's "peremoga" was replaced by today's "zrada".
    It seems to be like the other day, under the hooting comments of strategists from VO, the SAR soldiers, under the cover of the VKS, defeated the superior enemy forces. And now the defeated enemy unceremoniously piles on Assad soldiers who are under the cover of our forces and assets stationed in Khmeimim.
    1. bondrostov
      bondrostov 16 February 2020 13: 38
      -7
      Only recently I wrote that Assad, if he does not go away, will be ..... full. I threw minuses. Now look.
      1. Professor Preobrazhensky
        Professor Preobrazhensky 16 February 2020 13: 45
        +2
        Your point of view categorically differs from the aspirations of most site visitors. So they’ll pass, and if you prove to be right, they will accuse you of jinxing Assad’s army.
        1. bondrostov
          bondrostov 16 February 2020 13: 46
          -4
          Damage brought ... recourse
      2. Arberes
        Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 58
        +2
        Quote: bondrostov
        Only recently I wrote that Assad, if he doesn’t leave, will be to him

        That's when he departs, then speak. What ahead of time with such formidable statements to pour?
        We will see.
      3. ultra
        ultra 17 February 2020 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: bondrostov
        Only recently I wrote that Assad, if he does not go away, will be ..... full. I threw minuses. Now look.

        What to look at? While the SAA continues the offensive and I see no prerequisites for stopping. Erdogan can say anything, it's all for internal use.
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 16 February 2020 13: 52
      +2
      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      And now the defeated enemy unceremoniously piles on Assad soldiers who are under the cover of our forces and assets stationed in Khmeimim.

      Where is heaping? Do you have the latest information? If you are about two downed turntables, then this does not mean anything. MANPADS appeared among the Wahhabis, but this was to be expected.
    3. poquello
      poquello 16 February 2020 13: 58
      +5
      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      Yesterday's "peremoga" was replaced by today's "zrada".
      It seems to be like the other day, under the hooting comments of strategists from VO, the SAR soldiers, under the cover of the VKS, defeated the superior enemy forces. And now the defeated enemy unceremoniously piles on Assad’s soldiers

      had a dream? barmalei try to stop the slamming boiler
    4. Gene84
      Gene84 16 February 2020 14: 32
      +11
      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      Yesterday's "peremoga" was replaced by today's "zrada".

      What are you talking about? Are you about the Turks?
      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      And now the defeated enemy unceremoniously piles on Assad soldiers who are under the cover of our forces and assets stationed in Khmeimim

      Where, in what place?
      Quote: bondrostov
      Assad, if he does not go away, will be ..... complete.

      He has not departed and will not depart.
      Quote: bondrostov
      Now look.

      What to watch? Where to look?
  8. Aliken
    Aliken 16 February 2020 13: 37
    +5
    Erdogan has already given instructions to another president on what to do in his country.
  9. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 16 February 2020 13: 37
    -1
    It seems Erdogan wants to blackmail Putin.
    1. bondrostov
      bondrostov 16 February 2020 13: 41
      -15
      Again, a lot of hodachka in the darkest failed ..
      1. ultra
        ultra 17 February 2020 13: 28
        0
        Quote: bondrostov
        Again, a lot of hodachka in the darkest failed.

        He can be blamed for anything, but not this. So far everything has been successful and even very successful.
    2. knn54
      knn54 16 February 2020 14: 07
      -4
      It seems that Erdogan decided on an ultimatum, and the "trump cards" are as follows:
      -S-400;
      - "Turkish Stream;
      NPP ... it.d.
      And on the other hand, the Turks are allies of the terrorists with all that it implies, And I agree with the opinion of some visitors that it is not necessary to support the PKK.
      1. Grits
        Grits 16 February 2020 15: 37
        +3
        Quote: knn54
        It seems that Erdogan decided on an ultimatum, and the "trump cards" are as follows:
        -S-400;
        - "Turkish Stream;
        NPP ... it.d.

        There is a double edged sword. All these objects are not only important to us, but also to the Turks. so neither Russia nor Turkey is interested in all these projects collapsing or stopping.
        1. Alex Nevs
          Alex Nevs 17 February 2020 20: 10
          0
          I sometimes think that there is a stick with one end. It’s like the Schrödinger Cat and is alive and dead at the same time!
    3. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 16 February 2020 15: 04
      +1
      Quote: Chaldon48
      It seems Erdogan wants to blackmail Putin.

      Blackmail and ultimatums are not for Putin.
  10. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky 16 February 2020 13: 45
    0
    Is there really no one to smash the presumptuous Sultan with?
  11. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 16 February 2020 13: 48
    +2
    Let's see how combat-ready and motivated the army was prepared by our military specialists in Syria.
    War is not only victorious offensives, but also exhausting defense, and sometimes retreat.
    Nothing terrible happens. You just have to hold on. If it were the Russian front, I would be calm.
    But the Syrians, I hope, have already learned to achieve victory. Tasted her sweetness.
    A few more days - and the front of the broads will fall apart.
    Turks can’t plug holes in one technique. And to lose hundreds of askers every day for Erdogan is political suicide ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 16 February 2020 13: 58
      -1
      The situation when 4 Russian specialists died because the Syrians fled from the blow of the Islamists speaks well about how the Syrians learned to fight.
      1. Dave36
        Dave36 16 February 2020 14: 05
        -1
        And the case is not an isolated one
      2. Andrey.AN
        Andrey.AN 16 February 2020 14: 29
        0
        from exceptions, especially non-obvious, the rules are not derived.
        1. Kronos
          Kronos 16 February 2020 14: 30
          -3
          So this is not an exception, they are full of situations such as Palmyra, for example, when they passed when the Ishilovites counterattacked several years ago
          1. Andrey.AN
            Andrey.AN 16 February 2020 14: 38
            +1
            In the war, any situation is full of different, the Red Army also handed over a lot of things, then took three times more.
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 16 February 2020 15: 09
              -3
              The Red Army proclaimed the resistance of the enemy who had the best land army at that time, the Syrians, with the support of Russia, were fighting against gangs that did not have aircraft and navy, inferior in technology and artillery. What does it once as soon as the blows of Russia weaken the front of the Syrians begins to crumble
              1. K-50
                K-50 16 February 2020 15: 19
                +1
                Quote: Kronos
                The Red Army proclaimed the resistance of the enemy who had the best land army at that time, the Syrians, with the support of Russia, are fighting against gangs without aircraft and navy, inferior in technology and artillery

                I would not be so categorical in such a statement.
                The Turks also help the Banderlog the "coalition" And they have order with tanks, artillery and aviation. And they are not "embarrassed" to use it, without bothering with meticulous intelligence, but simply wet it in all the crap. sad
              2. Andrey.AN
                Andrey.AN 16 February 2020 15: 25
                +3
                These "scattered gangs" were financed, armed, supported by intelligence, recruiting offices, instructors from the USA, Britain, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, ..., aircraft carriers were chased for them, and massive missile strikes were organized. Monsters corporation.
    2. Arberes
      Arberes 16 February 2020 14: 08
      +4
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      But the Syrians, I hope, have already learned to achieve victory. Tasted her sweetness.

      The experience of military operations they definitely do not hold. hi
  12. Professor Preobrazhensky
    Professor Preobrazhensky 16 February 2020 14: 48
    -4
    Guys, behind all your warlike appeals, are real lives.
    We really pay a very expensive price ...
    Actually, those who give you an informational reason to threaten with fists in the direction of Erdogan.



    1. Professor Preobrazhensky
      Professor Preobrazhensky 16 February 2020 16: 01
      +4
      Minutes, you guys look in the eye and then look at yourself in the mirror ... Do not deny the obvious things, just like adding fuel to the fire.
      Whoever wants to give Turks and Americans a neck in Syria, I can send for the realization of your personal plan, and without a hint of irony, in the absolutely right direction

      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 16 February 2020 16: 47
        -1
        Professor, what is your reincarnation in a row? And whom are you ready to send to?
        1. Professor Preobrazhensky
          Professor Preobrazhensky 16 February 2020 17: 07
          0
          There will certainly be a person who will rank me among Ukrainians, liberals, the State Department, trolls or the fifth column.
          I will not hide, you have brought some variety, in particular with my reincarnation ...
          Therefore, for originality and some novelty, I personally will not send you anywhere, although the idea was so obscene.
          1. nov_tech.vrn
            nov_tech.vrn 16 February 2020 21: 44
            +5
            I visited where they directed me, and I can calmly look in the eyes of anyone and I know the price. By the way, for reference, the SAR army for the first time in eight years returned to its control the largest city of Aleppo, completely displacing the militants from there, and advanced west into direction of the city of Darat Izza, this is a summary of February 16.
    2. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 17 February 2020 20: 13
      0
      Near Odessa ... that’s where the Valtsman Seven-boiler army is. So there the horizon is not visible.
  13. K-50
    K-50 16 February 2020 15: 15
    0
    Lure them into a mock retreat and into a "fire bag". Cover all this filth with "Sunstrikes", and work with "Dots" on the guns.
    You look, the ardor will evaporate along with the "ardent" Turkomans.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 19 February 2020 23: 21
      0
      The start of the Syrian military missile tactical complex "Point-U" hit the video. The video was published by the Military Informant Telegram channel. Judging by the personnel, the launcher was placed away from buildings. A missile strike was fired at militant positions on the border of the provinces of Idlib and Aleppo, where the Syrian army is conducting an active offensive. The Syrian military has repeatedly used the Tochka-U complex against rebels and terrorists. Rossiyskaya Gazeta noted that this was a necessary measure, a response to the provocations of jihadists. According to the American television channel Fox News, Tochki-U was delivered to Syria from Russia, where they are being actively withdrawn from service.
  14. spectr
    spectr 16 February 2020 16: 04
    -3
    As I understand it, it is enough to help the Syrians drag out this war with Turkey and after the next election Turkey will have a new president, but what will happen to Erdogan after that is still unknown. Too many he has mischief both within the country and abroad.
    1. Altai72
      Altai72 16 February 2020 17: 24
      +2
      Bahceli may become the next president, who will not think and be friends with the Russian Federation.
      1. protoss
        protoss 16 February 2020 21: 36
        -1
        bakhcheli will never become president, his mkhp rating is always around 10-15%.
  15. honest people
    honest people 16 February 2020 16: 40
    -5
    Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
    Guys, behind all your warlike appeals, are real lives.
    We really pay a very expensive price ...
    Actually, those who give you an informational reason to threaten with fists in the direction of Erdogan.




    it pimple Lahtins sell their homeland for kommenty
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 18 February 2020 17: 03
      -1
      The first photo from "Nasha Versiya" is a fairly well-known newspaper dealing mainly with scandals (I apologize for "investigations"), in an unsigned article, it tells about the fact that the dead in Syria are buried under St. Petersburg, and why it is there, a secret, There are many words in the article and not a single fact, they promise that in a year and a half, everything will be declassified. I read about the resource and realized what would happen next from the same material.
  16. Russian_man
    Russian_man 16 February 2020 17: 07
    0
    They divorced you, Vladimir Vladimirovich, the Turks for tomatoes ...
    But I didn’t eat them and don’t eat them. When they trade, they say one thing in Russian, and another speaks very differently ... How little time is left and how many things are planned, right?
    However, appoint Medvedev responsible there - he will sell everything to the Chinese again ...
  17. sagitch
    sagitch 16 February 2020 18: 13
    0
    Erodan is impatient, unlike Putin, and this will destroy him.
  18. protoss
    protoss 16 February 2020 21: 34
    -5
    In addition, there is information that militants from the Dzhebhat al-Nusra terrorist group, banned in Russia, are taking part in the attack.

    Well, yes, they invented the time machine, and came to it from 2017.
  19. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 17 February 2020 13: 00
    -1
    Quote: Arberes
    I’m more interested: will a tomato friend decide to strike with his regular parts all the way to Damascus?

    Waging a full-scale war with Syria will not be easy for Erdogan. Moreover, his Kurdish "friends" will immediately use it. Losses will amount to thousands and there is no guarantee of success.
    But a full guarantee for peace can be beaten only by the harassment of nuclear weapons. Then the military victory and occupation of Syria will be very expensive.
  20. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 17 February 2020 23: 06
    0
    I will punch anyone who dares to swing rights in my territory. Erdogan is very wrong !!!!!
  21. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 17 February 2020 23: 08
    0
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Quote: Arberes
    I’m more interested: will a tomato friend decide to strike with his regular parts all the way to Damascus?

    Waging a full-scale war with Syria will not be easy for Erdogan. Moreover, his Kurdish "friends" will immediately use it. Losses will amount to thousands and there is no guarantee of success.
    But a full guarantee for peace can be beaten only by the harassment of nuclear weapons. Then the military victory and occupation of Syria will be very expensive.

    do not remember YAV, there will be little good sense, believe me !!!
  22. Campanella
    Campanella 18 February 2020 00: 36
    0
    Old man Erdogen is full of strength ... Ornate dude does not see the banks. No wonder our overseas "partners" wanted to dunk him. Will end badly.
    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 19 February 2020 13: 01
      0
      Over the past day (February 17 to 18), the Russian air forces successfully liquidated two columns with armored vehicles that crossed the Syrian border. The total number of liquidated equipment was about 50 units, most of which were Leopard and M60 tanks (in just the last 5 days, 100 units of various military equipment received from Turkey were eliminated). The Turks did not recognize the columns as their transfer of equipment to the barmels on the Syrian border. And here, in Libya, the Turkish ship with weapons sank, well, just sadness.
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 19 February 2020 16: 53
        0
        I think this old man Erogen can’t be stopped, he will now tease the Americans. But I'm sure it would be better for him to calm down so as not to lose everything, I hope he understands this. True, they are hot guys there ...
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    1. nov_tech.vrn
      nov_tech.vrn 18 February 2020 12: 38
      -1
      Zhorzhik, do you think that Erdogan will stick together? In the worst of times, I never even tried to count the experts burying Assad,
      1. Campanella
        Campanella 19 February 2020 16: 55
        0
        It's not even Assad. Amerikosy can put Turkey on the ears, they need instability there. Their role automatically becomes a key one in the world. So Erogen can easily lose his head and country ...