Erdogan threatens Damascus with an immediate military response

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Turkey demanded an immediate cessation of the offensive by the Syrian government forces in the Idlib de-escalation zone and the withdrawal of SAA units from Turkish observation posts. This was stated by Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, speaking in Istanbul.

The Turkish leader once again threatened to respond with a blow to the Syrian army if it did not immediately leave the territories liberated during the offensive and did not return to the positions it held in 2018 when the Sochi agreement was signed. At the same time, he emphasized that he would not wait for the end of the month, as promised earlier, but would strike immediately.



Until the regime’s forces go beyond the borders (de-escalation zones in Idlib) defined in the Sochi agreement, the problem will not be solved. If they do not leave, then we will do this work without waiting for the end of February

- he said.

Recall that in Syria, according to the agreements of Russia, Iran and Turkey, four de-escalation zones have been created, three of which are controlled by Damascus. The fourth zone, which includes the province of Idlib and part of the provinces of Latakia, Hama and Aleppo, is controlled by militants. Earlier, Ankara promised to put things in order in this de-escalation zone by placing its observation posts there, but failed to achieve anything, the militants continued shelling of peaceful territories.

Currently, several Turkish observation posts are located on the territory recaptured by militants by government forces, thereby losing their original meaning. Despite this, the Turks are not going to retreat to their border, but, on the contrary, demand from Damascus that he withdraw his forces from the liberated territories.

As some media previously reported, Erdogan had great views of the province of Idlib, where he wanted to create a quasi-state, completely under the control of Ankara.
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    1. +14
      16 February 2020 07: 10
      Erdogan had great views of Idlib province, where he wanted to create some kind of quasi-state, completely under the control of Ankara.


      Nothing will come of it. Turkey at this historical stage is not a country that can create states. Even quasi.
      1. +19
        16 February 2020 07: 51
        Quote: Kleber
        Turkey at this historical stage is not a country that can create states. Even quasi.

        Do not underestimate Turkey. It is clear that Erdogan has gone too far. But so far it is not visible that someone was trying to stop him.
        From the thought of his own greatness and impunity, Erdogan can do various things that will come across all the countries of the region.
        1. +3
          16 February 2020 08: 03
          Quote: Arlen
          But for now can not see to someone him tried stop.

          And, most importantly, who CAN stop him ....
          1. +3
            16 February 2020 08: 05
            He will stop himself, if not completely frostbitten of course.
          2. 0
            16 February 2020 12: 01
            Well, in general, it is very interesting. The Turks began to introduce troops for a week already, I was expecting a harsh escalation already, but they are still making statements, moreover, on internal sites .... Are they really "blown away"? In fact, yes.
            Their military capabilities there are very wide.
            1. +1
              16 February 2020 12: 23
              Really "blown away"?

              Ah ... read the next topic. Tomorrow big bidding in Moscow turns out. Then it's clear.
        2. +3
          16 February 2020 11: 43
          An attack on Damascus could be the beginning of the end for Turkey. NATO will not send soldiers to fight for its interests.
          1. 0
            16 February 2020 12: 19
            NATO with great pleasure frolic in Syria .. And the French, and the British, and even the hell knows who .. Turkey is a NATO member .. UN about the actual occupation of Syria by Turkish troops is silent in a rag .. Not a single moan about the death of civilians from volleys of Turkish MLRS .. White helmets turned green and disappeared into the mass ... The French drove their aircraft carrier to Syria, too, just like that, right? NATO is just waiting for Russia to grapple with Turkey seriously .. (God forbid). - and right there they will start to beat on Assad’s troops ..
            1. +1
              16 February 2020 13: 21
              Well, NATO is different. In 1974, two NATO countries fought in Cyprus - Greeks and Turks. The Turks depressed Northern Cyprus (an absolutely depressed region that is not recognized in the world by anyone other than the Turks themselves). And NATO stood quietly on the sidelines. So options are possible.
            2. 0
              16 February 2020 18: 00
              NATO, first of all, is the United States and only then, countries controlled by it that are not eager ... The treaty itself is just a formality with the legitimization of the transfer of its sovereignty to the Americans.
              For me, this is how European countries reason: it is risky for us to climb ahead of the United States, otherwise the Americans can simply substitute, and they themselves sit on the sidelines. So it turns out that if a war breaks out, then only with a full-scale attack by the United States, which is only used to "demonstrating its power" in front of small ...
            3. 0
              17 February 2020 11: 43
              The French aircraft carrier will be drowned; as D. Artagnan said: "A thousand devils !!!" And now there will be an incident of Belly !!! They will drown at least Iran, at least Syria with some kind of Ball, etc. etc. Or the aircraft carrier will cover ours and our submarine will count its days. Need a reason, Archduke Ferdinand some kind of overwhelming ..... Something tells me that Ferdinand is stubbornly forced by the Naglo-Saxons to play Turkey, promising her "glass beads". Yes, yes, they always did that. Why change the method if it works !!! For the hundredth time I look at the map of Eurasia and do not understand how Hitler then contrived to fool the USSR ?? Well, this is Great Britain, they would want to eat and not choke, but no, they climbed into Russia for the hundredth time for birch crosses. And as vain Turkey hounded, hounded and will hound us to the last Turk ...
          2. +1
            16 February 2020 20: 04
            and on what basis will Nato send his troops, as far as I know, a collective agreement comes into force only when attacking a NATO member on its territory. That is, with the invasion of the same territory of Turkey. But in fact, Turkey climbed into Syria and Syria has all legal aspects to expel any occupier
      2. +4
        16 February 2020 08: 19
        The Sultan has other opinions on this subject.
        1. 0
          16 February 2020 08: 26
          His opinions periodically change. Depending on which side it’s more profitable to play.
      3. -8
        16 February 2020 09: 30
        the last chance to bite off a piece from a foreign state, can they block the gas?
      4. 0
        16 February 2020 12: 02
        But it can spoil, and as you can see - very decently.
        1. dSK
          0
          16 February 2020 12: 21
          several Turkish observation posts are located in territory recaptured by militants by government forces, thereby losing their original meaning

          The so-called "observation posts" were created as turkish "checkpoints".
    2. +20
      16 February 2020 07: 23
      Turkey demanded
      Being in a foreign sovereign country without an invitation requires. Isn't it too much on itself? With his threats against Assad and the Syrian army, he began to resemble the Ukrainian "strategists" who threaten to reach Moscow. NATO was modestly silent about providing assistance to the Turks, although the Americans promised help with intelligence and weapons, but only promised. Obviously you will have to come to terms in the end.
      1. +2
        16 February 2020 07: 28
        Quote: rotmistr60
        NATO was modestly silent about providing assistance to the Turks, although the Americans promised help with intelligence and weapons, but only promised.


        Against the backdrop of relations in recent years, NATO will help those who overthrow Erdogan with weapons, but not him.
        1. +2
          16 February 2020 08: 27
          If they need it, they will pretend that there was nothing and will give sweets, but will look for a replacement for him. Near each sultan there is a vizier or assistant vizier who wants to sit on the throne of the sultan
      2. 0
        16 February 2020 08: 11
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Being in a foreign sovereign country without an invitation requires. Does it take too much on itself?

        Well, his army is more or less normal and he can afford to dictate terms.
        1. +3
          16 February 2020 08: 48
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Well, his army is more or less normal and he can afford to dictate terms.

          Theoretically, on paper, she surpasses the CAA army, like an elephant to a turtle. But in practice, the picture looks different. The idea of ​​strengthening expeditionary forces with armored vehicles is mechanistic, but not very good. Given the profile of the terrain, mainly mountainous, which greatly reduces the advantages of armor and increases the capabilities of light infantry with anti-tank systems. hi
          1. +3
            16 February 2020 09: 49
            Quote: Tersky
            increases the capabilities of light infantry with anti-tank systems.

            From them artillery helps well and aviation. The Kurds have dispersed this "light infantry" and that's it, because they have no armor and no air defense systems.
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      3. +3
        16 February 2020 09: 57
        Americans just clap their hands and stock up on popcorn. They are very beneficial snack between us and Turkey. So they will help the Turks as they can.
        1. +13
          16 February 2020 10: 04
          Americans just clap their hands and stock up on popcorn. They are very beneficial snack between us and Turkey. So they will help the Turks as they can.

          It’s just that someone with his frenzied Cheers imagined the allied relations between Turkey and the Russian Federation, they weren’t there when. Turkey is a NATO member and opposes the Russian Federation, and the construction of the pipeline and the sale of the S-400 will not change this.
          The current situation was predictable a little more than completely
          1. -1
            16 February 2020 12: 06
            and the construction of the pipeline and the sale of S-400 will not change this

            Actually quite capable of changing. The development of economic relations brings together and makes war noticeably less likely, but one must understand that there are also reasons for a conflict of interest - in Syria, almost a direct conflict of interests occurs. And in general, it will be very difficult to collide with Erdogan’s ambitions (and if this is not his personal ambition, remove Erdogan - his double brother will appear)
        2. -1
          16 February 2020 10: 53
          Siberian 66
          To be honest, I think so too. The United States wanted to replace Erdogan because he did not go against the Russian Federation, did not subscribe to something. And then they publicly leave him alone on the battlefield, and wait until the TR and the Russian Federation completely fall out irrevocably, wait and push both sides, the Russian Federation with the TR, into a direct clash. Then they will immediately remember "NATO's collective security." And believe me, if this happens, and even if Erdogan pleads with the United States not to get involved in this, we will sort it out ourselves. Believe me, Erdogan will be the last one the US will "just listen to". NATO does not have the same image that would be so, just look and observe aside, they say let (NATO ally) Turkey, Erdogan figure it out himself. The United States affirms to all its allies about the importance of NATO, and protection from Russian aggression, and increasingly wants influence in the world and NATO allies. And then leave it, and what others think. They will strike in Syria, and they will respond in Syria.
          1. dSK
            -1
            16 February 2020 12: 07
            Quote: Isim Soyad
            wait until TR and RF completely disagree irrevocably

            They will try to inject "Kerosene" into the conflict, nothing has changed:
            Harry Es Truman (1884 - 1972), 33 US President (1945-1953 from the Democratic Party), Baptist, high-ranking Freemason (in 1959 he was awarded an honorary award in honor of 50 years of service to the Masonic order: "If we see that Germany is winning the war, we should help Russia, if win Russia, we should help Germany, and let them kill each other as much as possible " (wikipedia);
            1. 0
              16 February 2020 12: 12
              against the Russian Federation will forgive and help
    3. +2
      16 February 2020 07: 23
      Once Erdogan warned, then the Turkish attack will be met. hi
      1. +8
        16 February 2020 07: 47
        Quote: bessmertniy
        Turkish attack will be met

        Meet them unconditionally. Is there just enough strength for the Syrian army to resist the Turks? Will Russia help Assad resist the Turkish army? hi
        1. -9
          16 February 2020 08: 44
          Quote: Arlen
          Will Russia help Assad resist the Turkish army?

          Direct participation is unlikely. Assad should talk with Iran on the topic of full-scale military assistance, along with the Jews will be pleased.
          Iran, the stump is clear, will not get into a freebie and will have to be interested in it somehow and Russia can help it in this, with a dozen nuclear warheads, for example, or the creation of Iranian military bases on Syrian soil.
          1. -11
            16 February 2020 10: 11
            What nuclear bombs what bases are you talking about !!? Turks are the second army of NATO. They are an assad with Mr. .. eat and spit out. Why should we have a snack with the Turks? Assad leads his game trying to pit us, he is the same bug as his dad. We should not care about Syria and the Syrians. MAIN OUR INTERESTS! It’s time to learn at least something!
            1. -1
              16 February 2020 11: 56
              Quote: bondrostov
              Why should we have a snack with the Turks?

              Are you from Iran?
              Under Syrian rule, Syria does not need Iran, because then Iran will be next.
              Quote: bondrostov
              MAIN OUR INTERESTS!

              Well, in this case, they coincide.
              1. 0
                16 February 2020 11: 57
                I am from Rostov bully
                1. 0
                  16 February 2020 12: 04
                  Quote: bondrostov
                  I am from Rostov

                  Well then, you must understand the Russian language and you probably noticed that I did not write that Russia needs to have a bite with Turkey.
                  I just suggested the option of countering the Turks, without the direct participation of Russia.
                  1. -5
                    16 February 2020 12: 08
                    Assad leads his game, he plays an independent game of ours with the Turks of the arrangement, violates the cry he needs and remind him that if we abstain once in the United Nations when he dances according to the Amer’s resolution, he can crawl towards the cemetery.
                    1. +4
                      16 February 2020 12: 19
                      Quote: bondrostov
                      Assad leads his game, he played in independence

                      He is the legitimate president of an independent state.
                      Quote: bondrostov
                      our agreement with the Turks violates

                      The Turks did not fulfill their obligations, and the agreements were bilateral and, based on this, their value was insignificant.
                      The Turkish army is not only illegally located on Syrian territory, but also prevents the destruction of terrorists, and the destruction of terrorists is precisely the main goal of Russia in Syria.
                      You have a strange logic - the Turks are bothering, and you, for some reason, propose to "upset Assad" without giving a damn about Russian interests (for which you are shouting so loudly here).
                      1. -1
                        16 February 2020 12: 26
                        Yes brost you are not at Salaviev’s transmission. Our interest there is military bases and oil. Like amers, this is geopolitics, and all these women are so beautiful words that they all understand this. And if the Turks freak out and gouge Assad, then we will get a huge blow to our reputation. We cannot fight with the forces that we have there with the Turks. And do not become realist. Therefore, the Turks must be understood. And for heaven’s sake, what legal president he is, and he and his dad are the king of nothing more.
                        1. 0
                          16 February 2020 12: 34
                          Quote: bondrostov
                          Our interest there is military bases and oil.

                          Our interest is the destruction of the barmalei, who, after the capture of the region, will be trampled upon us.
                          And the United States will organize a Lend-Lease.
                          Quote: bondrostov
                          We cannot fight with the forces that we have there with the Turks.

                          For geographic reasons. But Iran can.
                          Quote: bondrostov
                          And for heaven’s sake, what legal president he is, and he and his dad are the king of nothing more.

                          I understand that you are burning from this, but you have to get used to it - fasten yourself.
                        2. -1
                          16 February 2020 12: 41
                          1. These barmalei will not go anywhere from edlib, just asad wants to return his territory.
                          2. Yes, of course due to geography, but we don’t need it yet. Iran is not our friend; its interests are just a temporary companion.
                          3 no, it doesn’t burn me at him anyway. He will end up on the scaffold anyway.
                        3. +1
                          16 February 2020 12: 42
                          Quote: bondrostov
                          He will end up on the scaffold anyway.

                          Wet dreams of a pro-American bot)))
                        4. -1
                          16 February 2020 12: 43
                          Well, they talked normally, you started to be rude, that means they admitted defeat according to my right hi
                        5. 0
                          16 February 2020 12: 45
                          Quote: bondrostov
                          Well, they talked normally, you started to be rude, that means they admitted defeat according to my right

                          Your righteousness has long been in the demotivator.
        2. +16
          16 February 2020 09: 56
          Will Russia help Assad resist the Turkish army?

          Have to help Assad.
          If the Turks defeat the Syrian army, Russia's very participation in this war will be worthless.
          Baboons perked up and again climb out of all the cracks, spit on the ceasefire they signed. And in Idlib and in Hama and in Deraa ...
          All our and Syrian losses over the years - will depreciate.
          The front in the north will fall apart, a threat will be created to the Russian bases of Khmeimim and Tartus.
          Evacuation required. Shameful evacuation through the triumphant Bosphorus ...
          Do we need a ending?
          Is it worth the gas in the pipe, our construction loans ours nuclear plant and the sale of the latest Russian missile defense to the Ottomans?
          In my opinion - not worth it.
          Once you lose face, it will be very difficult to restore a reputation. Especially in the East.
          1. -17
            16 February 2020 10: 13
            Or maybe he could give Assad on the head so that he wouldn’t climb there now and not infuriate the Turks?
            1. +5
              16 February 2020 12: 26
              Quote: bondrostov
              Or maybe he could give Assad on the head so that he wouldn’t climb there now and not infuriate the Turks?

              Even it seems to me that your “Rostov” is in Tel Aviv.
              1. -2
                16 February 2020 12: 27
                In vain it seems to you. Need to cross. laughing
                1. -1
                  16 February 2020 12: 35
                  Quote: bondrostov
                  Need to cross.

                  Baptize - for God's sake. I’ll just welcome it.
          2. +3
            16 February 2020 11: 33
            Quote: Paul Siebert
            In my opinion - not worth it.
            Once you lose face, it will be very difficult to restore a reputation. Especially in the East.

            good
            It must be made clear to the Sultan that this is extremely unprofitable for him. But if you lock, you have to intervene.
            He needs Livia. To yield to him in Libya, he will immediately forget about Idlib.
          3. +1
            16 February 2020 11: 53
            Given the fact that we still have not restored it from the end of the union, and this time will be a similar death for the foreign policy of the Russian Federation. All not numerous allies in the world will see what they are worth (Russians)
          4. 0
            16 February 2020 12: 42
            What does it mean to "help Assad"? Get involved in the Russian-Turkish war? For what purpose ? How can we put pressure on Turkey?
            So, I'm afraid the ending will be something like what you described .... Under the slogans: "We have defeated terrorism." It is difficult to dictate your own terms in this world if you do not have NATO, the European Union, any allies, or a powerful economy behind you.
        3. -2
          16 February 2020 11: 21
          "Is the Syrian army strong enough to resist the Turks?" ///
          ----
          For two or three days, the Syrians will hold out, by my assumption. recourse
          And then they will begin to retreat to their original positions.
    4. +3
      16 February 2020 07: 25
      "Until the forces of the regime go beyond the borders (de-escalation zones in Idlib) defined in the Sochi agreement, the problem will not be resolved."
      Haha, Erdogan, you yourself violated the agreement, you didn’t disarm the barmaleys, you sent drones to Khmeimim, you didn’t provide peaceful life. Now get the results.
    5. +12
      16 February 2020 07: 28
      The Russian Federation and Turkey have fundamentally different positions on the Syrian issue, the latter looks at Syrian territory like a cat on sour cream, while Russia seeks to unite Syria while maintaining geopolitical influence in the eastern Mediterranean, so Turkish forces from Idlib will not stop shelling the positions of the Syrian army and will not abandon attempts to attack our air base in Latakia, it is like a bone across the throat to the Turks.
      1. +4
        16 February 2020 09: 06
        Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
        the latter looks at Syrian territory like a cat on sour cream

        The latter regularly from the territory of Syria, especially after the offensive of the SAA, crowds of Syrian refugees come - there is nowhere to place them, there are millions of accounts. Erdogan needs a buffer zone near the border. This is much more important and understandable than the abstract "geopolitical influence in the eastern Mediterranean" - where you picked up such words wassat
        1. +1
          16 February 2020 09: 09
          He has already created a buffer zone thanks to the military operation "Olive Branch", and this is an occupation in its purest form.
          1. 0
            16 February 2020 09: 13
            Quote: Fedor Sokolov
            He has already created a buffer zone thanks to the military operation "Olive Branch", and this is an occupation in its purest form.

            That's right, occupation, Erdogan defends the interests of Turkey. Northern Cyprus is also an occupation and that - they still live, no one is touching. The right of the strong in all its glory.
        2. -1
          16 February 2020 09: 14
          Let him send them all to Europe, they still don’t give money. Or give?
    6. +16
      16 February 2020 07: 30
      In fact, we do not have as many options as we can influence Ankara. Erdogan may well strike the Syrian army, including from the air. Our planes will not shoot down him, if the Syrians bring down, they will blame us. Israeli and American planes that bombard the SAA, we do not shoot down and do not interfere with them. The Turkish stream has already been built and has already been paid for the contracts, ours will not be blocked, too much money has been invested, a lot of agreements with other countries. A nuclear power plant is also under construction, its commissioning is planned only in 2023. S-400 systems are already on credit. We can stop supporting the Turks in the issue of Kurds, but the Kurds under the hood of the Americans, they are not our allies. We can throw weapons to the Syrians and Kurds, but this will not stop the offensive in Idlib. We can support Haftar, but this also will not save Idlib, only create difficulties for the Turk in the future. You can introduce sanctions, this will create problems in the Turkish economy, but even the sanctions of the Americans and the collapse of the lira did not stop Erdogan. The Syrians, too, will not leave so simply, for them it is a betrayal. Most likely, everything will be decided this month, or we will negotiate for Erdogan special conditions for which he will abandon Idlib, or he will knock the Syrians out of Idlib, even with losses. He had already knocked out Kurds from the north, and even the Americans could not stop him, and disgraced the troops. I do not believe that ours will begin to bomb the Turks on all fronts. Here is such an analytics.
      1. +1
        16 February 2020 08: 10
        That's for sure. I even think that Turkey is a more valuable partner for Russia than Syria. Many joint profitable projects, plus friendship with Turkey - automatically destroys NATO slowly. Well, plus the end of the war in Syria, the Russian Federation is not necessary. This is an excellent landfill for the disposal of militants, terrorists, radicals and other elements. Plus testing and testing of weapons and equipment, plus training for personnel. The news is not particularly ringing, but more than 300 specimens have already been tested. So there is no particularly powerful support for CAA. On the 17th, enhanced bidding was announced in Moscow, and in fact the division of Syria. It seems to me that Idlib will be left for Erdogan so far, he certainly will not give him up without a fight. And in the future, he should get 30-40-50 km along the border of the security zone for a while. But let's see. It’s very unfortunate that the Syrians die in battles with a more equipped enemy even in conditions when the Turks cover the militants.
      2. +1
        16 February 2020 09: 41
        "I do not believe that ours will start bombing the Turks" I agree with you: we have no reason to fight the Turks.
        Someone will start shouting: there was no need to supply the S-400, there was no need to build the South Stream, but first of all: first of all, who then knew that the Sultan would make a "goat's face"?
        Secondly, he moved far away, for a long time or not the question is different, then the USA, and this is already +
        Thirdly, it’s much easier to find common ground while having a good relationship than quarreling
      3. +2
        16 February 2020 10: 02
        Well, all the same, do not compare the Kurds and the SAA, ours will be pumped up with weapons, reconnaissance and artillery, it will not seem to the Turks. And losses will go, the opposition in Turkey will raise its head .. So you can lose power too.
      4. -1
        16 February 2020 11: 13
        Quote: V1er
        but it will not stop the offensive in Idlib

        Something I missed. Whose offensive are you talking about? Can I have any link?
        1. 0
          16 February 2020 11: 19
          Estimated offensive. This is exactly what Erdogan threatens, which will knock the Syrians to the borders of "Sochi Idlib." I have tried to outline the situation ahead of time when the Turks begin to translate their threats into reality. If they do not dare, then God forbid. But Erdogan's reputation says he can take such a step.
          1. -1
            16 February 2020 17: 43
            Quote: V1er
            Alleged offensive

            Everything seems to be already.
            Will not take place.))
    7. -6
      16 February 2020 07: 31
      Withdraw Erdogan’s troops, until you have already received specifically for the cabbage soup ..
    8. +1
      16 February 2020 07: 33
      And what do Turkish observation posts in Syria do? so the Syrians are in their praava.
      1. +3
        16 February 2020 08: 14
        Quote: Lamata
        so the Syrians in their praava

        You still remember about conscience to the heap. There is such a thing - "the right of the strong."
        1. +1
          16 February 2020 09: 55
          Quote: Gray Brother
          There is such a thing - "the right of the strong"

          Are you talking about Erdogan? He has a very uncomfortable position now. And it can only be called strong except with a very big stretch ...
          1. +1
            16 February 2020 10: 11
            Quote: SaltY
            He has a very uncomfortable position now.

            He has a fairly comfortable military position.
            1. +1
              16 February 2020 10: 13
              Quote: Gray Brother
              He has a fairly comfortable military position

              That is, it’s convenient to shoot from it, on occasion, so what?

              I was not talking about that. No matter how “convenient” it is for Erdogan now, his options are, as they say, “both worse”. And to jump off this peak without losing face is just a dream for him. Blue.

              It is clear - all IMHO, and an autopsy will show.
        2. -3
          16 February 2020 12: 42
          About conscience in such situations x is not remembered. and Syria, let us help you; we’re stronger than the Ottomans to reason. Well, the Syrians, including those who need to, loudly chop off their rights to the territory, are noisy, of little use, but there will still be sediment.
    9. 9PA
      -4
      16 February 2020 07: 33
      Will Erdogan accept a direct military clash with the Russian Federation? Did Sultan Erdogan miscalculate everything, threatening the EU with refugees, the United States with 400, and the indirlik. Has the Sultan cornered himself? Is it time to remember all our losses and deliver a decisive blow. To bomb the militants together with the Turkoman. And how the army of the SAA was pumped, the Turks will burn well without air support. Good old 72s will also give panthers a light
      1. +3
        16 February 2020 07: 39
        Quote: 9PA
        Will Erdogan accept a direct military clash with the Russian Federation?


        A direct military clash with the Russian Federation is fraught with serious consequences for the fate of Erdogan himself. NATO countries will not help Erdogan even looking at article 5. And Erdogan understands this perfectly.
        1. 9PA
          -4
          16 February 2020 07: 41
          And Volodya understands a dangerous politician. Now it's our turn to dictate the terms
        2. +1
          16 February 2020 09: 09
          Quote: Kleber
          A direct military clash with the Russian Federation is fraught with serious consequences for the fate of Erdogan himself. NATO countries will not help Erdogan even looking at article 5. And Erdogan understands this perfectly.
          Have you already forgotten our Drying ?! Again threaten tomatoes ?!
          1. 0
            16 February 2020 09: 12
            The second drying will not be forgiven him. Instead, a tomato from the Caspian Sea can fly ... at least.
            1. +4
              16 February 2020 09: 42
              fly in ... at least.
              lol How humor comes down. The oligarchs will lose both South Stream and Syrian oil ...
              1. -2
                16 February 2020 09: 44
                The oligarchs do not head the Ministry of Defense. The Foreign Ministry, by the way, too.
                1. +2
                  16 February 2020 09: 49
                  The Foreign Ministry, by the way, too.
                  Who now owns Magnet, after being squeezed from the creator. You hope you won’t tell me that patriots are sitting in the Kremlin.
                  1. +1
                    16 February 2020 09: 51
                    You still tell about the low pension in the country. This is just the topic of the commented article.
                    1. +1
                      16 February 2020 09: 58
                      just on the topic
                      You might think your statement about tomatoes on the topic. Then no one removed Turkish tomatoes from the shelves. You believe the Kremlin propaganda. Oh well. Disappointment will be painful.
                      1. 0
                        16 February 2020 10: 01
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        You believe the Kremlin propaganda. Oh well. Disappointment will be painful.


                        I don’t understand why, with what fright you are making some wild conclusions for me? Or is it inborn with you?
                        1. 0
                          16 February 2020 10: 23
                          is it inborn with you?
                          Is it an insult or praise?
                        2. +1
                          16 February 2020 10: 24
                          This is a question.
                2. 0
                  16 February 2020 10: 18
                  Come to yourself, they head ALL
                3. -1
                  16 February 2020 15: 08
                  ))))))))))))))))))) thanks, I have not met such naivety for a long time, thanks, laughed)))
            2. 0
              16 February 2020 14: 46
              Nothing will fly, do not forget UP, NPP, and all this on the gnash of the grandmother.
      2. -5
        16 February 2020 07: 40
        He will give the states to disassemble the c400 and they will forgive him
        1. 9PA
          +3
          16 February 2020 07: 42
          And the Americans do not know how the c300 / 400 work?
          1. +3
            16 February 2020 07: 52
            And the Americans do not know how the c300 / 400 work?

            Americans even know how the RD-180 works. Which they really need. And they can’t do it.
            I do not think that the S-300 and S-400 are easier to manufacture than the RD-180.
            And even having disassembled our air defense systems into separate screws, it’s not a fact that they can reproduce.
            1. +7
              16 February 2020 08: 01
              They can do it, they have a full set of design documentation for the RD-180. Just do it yourself is more expensive than buying from us. It is more efficient to develop a new engine, the BE-4 for replacement is already ready for delivery to ULA, it all depends on how quickly they make their Vulcan launch vehicle under it.
              1. 0
                16 February 2020 09: 35
                Quote: BlackMokona
                They can do it, they have a full set of design documentation for the RD-180.

                RD-180: why the United States can not copy the Russian rocket engine https://fishki.net/anti/1872778-peremoga-po-amerikanski-analog-rd-180-obojdetsja-ssha-v-krugluju-summu.html
                1. 0
                  16 February 2020 13: 24
                  A very old article. BE-4 already has ready-made and tested copies, Falcon-9 dominates the commercial market of launches, etc.
                  In general, the article failed completely with its predictions
                  1. 0
                    16 February 2020 16: 38
                    [quote = BlackMokona] In general, the article fell to pieces with its predictions [/ quote]
                    Just like the Americans build their RD-180. [quote = BlackMokona] A very old article / quote] Read the more recent, [quote] http: //news-us..ru-an.info/news/pentagon- quarreled-with- Congress-usa-from-Russian- rd-180 / [/ quote]
                    1. 0
                      16 February 2020 17: 00
                      There, in the original report, for example, there are doubts that in the future Falcon Heavy will receive military certification, only now he received it more than a year ago. After which the whole report goes into the furnace, since the Pentagon already has full coverage of all its current and promising loads
            2. 0
              16 February 2020 08: 22
              And they can’t do it.

              They do not know magic words that are pronounced with a soul.
            3. +2
              16 February 2020 11: 11
              The Americans know how it works and how to make the RD-180. It's just that it's cheaper for them to buy from the Russian Federation than to make them from themselves. For the entire consumption of the finished "RD-180" in the USA, they probably buy 2-3 from the Russian Federation. That is why they buy from the Russian Federation.
              1. 0
                16 February 2020 16: 59
                Quote: Isim Soyad
                Americans know how it works and how to make an RD-180.

                Incorrect is precisely for this reason that the USA declared the impossibility of replacing the Russian RD-180 for another 10 years.
    10. -2
      16 February 2020 07: 41
      It is noteworthy that now the Syrians are starting to block US patrols (ISIS creators) at checkpoints ... Soon they will start shooting at the mattresses without talking.
    11. -1
      16 February 2020 07: 42
      The Turks could not get anything from the militants, because they did not want to! This is the same old song, the theft of oil from Syria by armed Turkish gangs. Turkish checkpoints must be tightly blocked so that the Turks themselves leave them after a while and withdraw them - without weapons - to Turkey. Also, it is necessary to immediately involve those Kurds who live in the area in the war against the Turks. Put them before a choice, or help clear the land from gangs and military Turks, which is the same at the moment, or go through the forest with autonomy within Syria. Also, the sultashka will "promise", if she does not cease to talk that Kurdistan, on the territory of Turkey, is a matter of time - the very near future. Only such a turn of events will make him tuck his tail and, having changed the rhetoric, leave Syria with his gangs.
    12. +6
      16 February 2020 08: 06
      It’s not long to wait, I don’t think that Erdogan will pull. All threats emanating from the Turks are executed. They don’t really need a stream. C400 I think too. For the war with the Russian Federation they will be quickly forgiven and understood. In GDP, the time of multi-step ends.
    13. +4
      16 February 2020 08: 13
      if Russia does not answer, they will cease to respect the world.
      1. +3
        16 February 2020 08: 17
        Well, we'll see. So far, not one victory from multi-paths ...
        1. -6
          16 February 2020 08: 33
          Quote: Dave36
          Well, we'll see. So far, not one victory from multi-paths ...

          Minke whales with Turks were at home and Israeli companies pump oil, and we are protecting the border from the Kurds, not so much
        2. +1
          16 February 2020 09: 49
          Personally, whatever option you use. Excluding power
      2. 0
        16 February 2020 15: 10
        she cannot answer because there is a south stream ...
    14. -3
      16 February 2020 08: 17
      If you don’t agree tomorrow, the Turks will strike in the evening or on Tuesday night.
      1. +2
        16 February 2020 09: 03
        Do not hit. Too unpredictable situation for Erdogan. And it’s one thing to promise, another thing to do. But Erdogan is primarily a politician, knows how to promise.
      2. 0
        16 February 2020 10: 54
        Quote: Dave36
        If you don’t agree tomorrow, the Turks will strike in the evening or on Tuesday night.

        I hope the Syrian intelligence has already recorded the places of accumulation of equipment, the places where the MLRS and artillery of the Turks are being prepared, the places where the Turkish soldiers are housed? And I hope they have alerted their "Points" and took objects at gunpoint?
    15. +4
      16 February 2020 08: 23
      Yes, the Turks will not go anywhere, they are told specifics. Yes, there is a desire. But desires are beyond possibilities.
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      1. +1
        16 February 2020 08: 41
        Not really, Libya is far away and there the map will lie. Turkey is not very happy with refugees ... Reggie wants to solve this issue
        1. +2
          16 February 2020 08: 47
          Let him stand on the border and not let him in, and so he climbed into someone else's territory and is still indignant.
    17. +1
      16 February 2020 08: 41
      The Ottoman dog broke.
      Most likely the Turks will inflict any blow.
      However, large-scale actions will not go.
      There is no good reason for the Turks to count on quick success without heavy losses.
      Such a conflict will weaken Turkey and may lead to the displacement of the Sultan.
      1. +2
        16 February 2020 08: 46
        The Sultan is looking for options to save face, he lost in Syria, everyone understands this.
        1. +4
          16 February 2020 09: 51
          I'm not sure about that
      2. 0
        16 February 2020 08: 47
        He already doesn’t have much chance of being reelected, if Idlib skips, there will be no chance at all)
        1. +3
          16 February 2020 09: 34
          If Russia skips, then the United States will personally finish him off.
    18. +2
      16 February 2020 08: 45
      Turkey demanded an immediate cessation of the offensive by the Syrian government forces in the Idlib de-escalation zone and the withdrawal of SAA units from Turkish observation posts.


      He needs a higher platform, and then in Damascus is not heard. lol
    19. +5
      16 February 2020 08: 46
      Only Russia can stop this presumptuous w.rod. The question is - will it? Assad can’t leave Idlib, but he himself can’t resist the Turks. And what should Russia do if the sultan really starts shelling the SAA?
      Good thing I'm not on the General Staff. And on the sofa, then from such tricks the head swells.
    20. -3
      16 February 2020 08: 49
      Эрдоган обвинил Россию в руководстве войной в Ливии https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbc.ru%2Fpolitics%2F15%2F02%2F2020%2F5e4830aa9a7947df12fc944f
    21. +3
      16 February 2020 08: 52
      Something in Turkey got sick this year. recourse And the "trade" of Russia and Turkey in Syria will not lead to anything good. hi
      1. -1
        16 February 2020 09: 10
        Something like that. Where to go? In the Crimea, too, reluctantly
        1. +1
          16 February 2020 10: 58
          Quote: Stils
          Something like that. Where to go? In the Crimea, too, reluctantly

          Come to us. The coastal beaches of the Sea of ​​Japan in August are no worse than the Crimean. Unless, of course, you are not scared, which is a hundred kilometers. - North Korea.
    22. 0
      16 February 2020 08: 57
      the Turkish army will remove the identification marks and, under the guise of a militant, will strike at its vehicles, and when their soldier is killed they will start screaming that they are so white and fluffy that they didn’t touch anyone but attacked them.
      1. +4
        16 February 2020 09: 35
        Quote: master 52
        the Turkish army will remove the insignia and under the guise of a militant

        Yeah ... this is so that the Russian VKS raskhrenachili them on an absolutely legal basis.
      2. +4
        16 February 2020 09: 37
        They have already tried to do this.
        The MLRS installations were destroyed along with the calculations estimated at the barmalei.
        They are silent.
    23. +1
      16 February 2020 09: 00
      In Berlin, unknown people fired on immigrants from Turkey near the concert hall, one person died
      Mona Lorenz, spokeswoman for the Berlin police, told the AR that a 42-year-old man had died in a shootout. According to media reports, the murdered and injured are from Turkey. Investigators do not yet have any information on the motives for the shooting, but, according to Lorenz, this is not connected with terrorism.
    24. 3vs
      -2
      16 February 2020 09: 11
      No matter how the continuation of the series "Tomatoes 2" happens ...
      Apparently, this time there will be no one to save the Sultan.
    25. +1
      16 February 2020 09: 28
      Quasi, not quasi, less croaking in Turkish is necessary on foreign lands !!!! Look at this sultan !!!!
    26. +2
      16 February 2020 09: 39
      Yes, for now, it does not smell of any kind of conflict resolution. ((
    27. 0
      16 February 2020 09: 43
      "Erdogan threatens with an answer"!
      Those. it is the Syrians who attacked, and Erdogash threatens with an answer?
      Author, long thought over the headline?
    28. +6
      16 February 2020 10: 28
      Turkey will not pay compensation for the downed Su-24 Russian Air Force aircraft. This was reported by Reuters referring to Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım.

      "The payment of compensation to Russia is not being discussed. We only expressed our regret," he said.
      https://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/95330
      This was enough for Putin to continue building nuclear power plants, selling the S-400, building a gas pipeline, and of course tourism. And all these projects are on credit. So who beat whom?
      1. 0
        16 February 2020 10: 35
        Please treat with understanding ... GDP
    29. +2
      16 February 2020 10: 44
      Why wait for the end of February to hit the SAA? I would like to hit, I would do it. He needs a 30km zone and Idlib, for this he is gathering strength so that the Syrians do not disperse much.
    30. mvg
      +4
      16 February 2020 10: 50
      There are very few objective comments. Doesn’t it seem to anyone that Erdogad has outplayed GDP? He has much more options than Russia. Bargained for buns, and dumps. VKS does not fit against Turkey. No, no way. We already have no temporary allies in the BV. And the paths diverge with Iran, and Syria, in which case with Assad, immediately turns away. And without the Turks and the IRGC, it’s not enough for us to shine. What is fifty aircraft and two air defense divisions. So much is swollen in Syria, but everything can break loose overnight. Let’s leave as we left Egypt or Somalia.
      1. +3
        16 February 2020 12: 29
        (We’ll leave Assad) the Turks will turn us around even more, but Turks will turn them around everywhere for a very long time ... Not at stake is any abstract (Assad in a vacuum and Turkish tomatoes) but at least 20 years of work (Putin ) in the return of Russia to the world politics!
        ps I do not believe that in this situation (Putin) will make the right choice. And very soon we will experience the results of this choice.
        1. mvg
          +3
          16 February 2020 14: 26
          Let's get away from Assad

          Something tells me that Assad has a minority in the country. He will not be there, Shiites will come to power, and we will become on bird’s rights. Tartus and Hmeimim rent agreement will be torn, Iranians will be officially called. And yes, do not forget that the supply of the aerospace forces comes through Turkey. You can’t train much Ruslans. Under any pretext, the Bosphorus will be closed for Russia and all. And all these international laws are silent. The Americans will rise again, and the Turks will not refuse free oil. They already have refugees, according to the press of 6-7 million, it is vital for them to create a security corridor, the thicker the better.
          PS: With Egypt it was the same, “asked” and left. And it was the USSR, incomparably more powerful, which could restrain Israel. And which were friends in the BV. So the situation is far from interesting.
          1. 0
            16 February 2020 14: 50
            Everything is so. Only a small mistake. Assad supports the Shiite minority of Alpvit. And when the Sunni majority comes to power
            1. mvg
              0
              16 February 2020 17: 21
              alpvites

              Well, yes, the Alawites, Ismailis, according to the wiki, about 13 percent, Sunnis about 74 percent. Not in vain with a population of 18 million, about 6 million are already outside Syria.
              If you recall dad, and even his own sinners, it is clear why there are so few supporters. Let's see what tomorrow they’ll agree.
    31. +3
      16 February 2020 11: 16
      Erdogan yap political wassat
    32. -2
      16 February 2020 11: 59
      It’s not a matter of threatening, all the more so Assad isn’t out of cowardly, like sheep, foreign troops cannot be taken anywhere, you’ll have to come to an agreement and threats can complicate things very much.
    33. +4
      16 February 2020 12: 21
      Quote: V1er
      Israeli and American planes that bombard the SAA, we do not shoot down and do not interfere with them.

      No Israeli or American planes bomb the SAA, what nonsense are you talking about?
    34. 0
      16 February 2020 14: 15
      Threaten, many threaten, but what will happen in practice, this grandmother said in two.
    35. 0
      16 February 2020 15: 39
      It becomes more and more inconvenient for Russia to sit on 2 chairs, what will they choose gas + tomatoes + resorts, and on the other hand honor and union obligations?
    36. 0
      16 February 2020 16: 04
      For Russia, it seems like a zungzwang. If the Turks overturn the Syrians over the M5 highway and Russia does not stop, then the Turks will be able to violate any agreements and reach Damascus.

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