Mexico explained why they are afraid to buy Russian military helicopters

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The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Mexico claims that the acquisition of Russian-made military helicopters will not take place. The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions.

This information was published by the newspaper El Universal from Mexico, citing employees of the department.



Soon this information was confirmed by a source in the Mexican Foreign Ministry, without giving details and without giving a reason for refusing the transaction.

Information on Mexico’s purchase of Russian helicopters last week was reported by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov during a press conference in Mexico City. He said that Rosoboronexport is in talks with the Mexican side on a number of issues, including those related to the purchase of military helicopters. The minister also noted that in Mexico there are already about 50 Russian helicopters, a service station and a crew training center.

Soon after, on February 13, Assistant Secretary of State of the United States Hugo Rodriguez announced that the United States did not exclude the imposition of sanctions against Mexico in the case of the purchase of the latest Russian helicopters or other military equipment manufactured in Russia.
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  1. +7
    15 February 2020 09: 41
    There are different forms of ownership ... for example, leasing. Formally, a rental car.
    1. -1
      15 February 2020 09: 52
      Zaur hi - it was possible to create a co-tenant company, through it to take it for temporary use, also with the right of redemption! Only, the "companion" should be their neighboring countries, but where to find such a reliable partner?
      1. -7
        15 February 2020 10: 22
        Quote: Thrifty
        Only, the "companion" should be their neighboring countries, but where to find such a reliable partner?

        What if Venezuela? She is already under sanctions. As an option
        1. +8
          15 February 2020 10: 30
          Why do Mexicans have such difficulties? They will do this only if the profit from the use of our helicopters is twice as much as from the American.
          1. 0
            15 February 2020 10: 39
            Quote: Pereira
            They will do this only if the profit from the use of our helicopters is twice as much as from the American.

            It is truth too
          2. 0
            15 February 2020 14: 27
            It will not even be in two, but in three if you take into account the price and technical support, where you saw the Americans cheap military equipment. But they still won’t buy, it's Mexico -American Ukraine
            1. -1
              15 February 2020 18: 14
              And what about Ukraine?
              1. 0
                15 February 2020 21: 52
                Geographically.
            2. 0
              16 February 2020 08: 52
              "American Ukraine" is Texas, California. For instance.
              And Mexico is Mexico. And, apparently, she is now, gradually, capturing the United States by migrants. lol
      2. -1
        15 February 2020 11: 06
        Lean, a good idea. Only an intermediary will want to weld and the price will rise.
        1. 0
          15 February 2020 13: 15
          All civil aviation is so arranged .... the largest lessor is Ireland. And a large% of the ships registered there.
      3. 0
        15 February 2020 13: 13
        You can and without redemption .... 10 years to use and passed at a sufficient cost ....
    2. -1
      15 February 2020 11: 49
      Leasing is dreary, and there is such a concept in law, an imaginary or sham transaction.
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 13: 13
        In any case, there is a limit on the amount of the transaction, but when renting it is not
        1. -2
          15 February 2020 13: 20
          the fact of the matter is that you should not confuse leasing and rent.
          1. 0
            15 February 2020 13: 26
            Leasing is a type of rental. Lessor retains title to product
            1. -2
              15 February 2020 13: 30
              Dear essence of leasing, that upon accrual of all payments, the leased asset is transferred to the lessee in ownership.
              1. 0
                15 February 2020 14: 25
                Depending on the contract. I have a company car, I rent it and get a new one. And rent happens with the right of redemption.
                1. -2
                  15 February 2020 16: 38
                  The Civil Code of the Russian Federation contains the concept of lease with the right to buy and lease.
              2. 0
                15 February 2020 16: 39
                Leasing is a financial lease. It can be like with the right of redemption - as a rule, in this case, the redemption price consists of rental payments (this is the most common option), and maybe without the right of redemption.
                1. -2
                  15 February 2020 17: 14
                  There are 3 parties in leasing, the lessee, the lessor and the bank.
                  1. 0
                    15 February 2020 17: 37
                    Just a leasing giver .... why a bank? Third party supplier.
                    1. -2
                      16 February 2020 07: 55
                      Where do you get the money for leasing?
                      1. 0
                        16 February 2020 08: 09
                        Leasing company .... as a rule, it is a branch or the bank itself.
                2. -3
                  15 February 2020 17: 15
                  the redemption price also includes the lessor’s margin, the lessor takes the bank’s money, acquires a leasing measure and transfers it to the recipient.
      2. 0
        17 February 2020 08: 53
        All modern politics is a fake deal with imaginary show-offs.
  2. +2
    15 February 2020 09: 43
    Few States fence on the border with Mexico, so they also decided to crush it with sanctions. negative
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 10: 24
      Quote: bessmertniy
      Few States fence on the border with Mexico, so they also decided to crush it with sanctions. negative

      Yes, at least a fence, even a ditch. We found a lever of pressure, that’s all
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 14: 58
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Yes, at least a fence, even a ditch. We found a lever of pressure, that’s all

        And the essence of this lever is banal blackmail. They only came up with a beautiful name - sanctions.
  3. +4
    15 February 2020 09: 43
    This is normal ... There are a lot of examples of extremely "honest" competition from HEGEMON. This is how the image of the "shining city on the hill" turns out ... For those who do not see and do not understand in what ways he achieves this ...
    1. +5
      15 February 2020 09: 47
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      For those who do not see and do not understand in what ways he achieves this ...

      There are none left. Just the point?
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      This is normal...
    2. +4
      15 February 2020 09: 48
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      For those who do not see and do not understand in what ways he achieves this ...

      For capitalism, all means are good for profit. Do you think ours would not like that? They just can't.
      1. +1
        15 February 2020 19: 24
        Quote: freddyk
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        For those who do not see and do not understand in what ways he achieves this ...

        For capitalism, all means are good for profit. Do you think ours would not like that? They just can't.

        I don’t agree, they don’t want to, you can start printing dollars, on Goznak the quality will be better than American
        1. +8
          15 February 2020 19: 33
          Quote: poquello
          you can start printing dollars, on Goznak the quality will be better than the American

          Deripaska had already mined the crypt, so much so that "traffic jams" were knocked out at the Krasnoyarsk state district power station, for the boys he tried, who did not give up their own, and the inhabitants, meanwhile, sat without light and burned torches. The digitalization of the economy, however.
          1. -1
            15 February 2020 19: 37
            Quote: Malyuta
            Deripaska has already mined the crypt,

            and what side of Deripaska with cryptocurrency to the dollar?
            1. +9
              15 February 2020 20: 08
              Quote: poquello
              and what side of Deripaska with cryptocurrency to the dollar?

              Well, not at all sideways, but directly the front part of the MTC / USD 1 = 9.906!
              You offer to print bucks on a goznak, and the guys don’t need a goznak — it is for suckers, but the crypt does not know the borders and it doesn’t need offshores))) Therefore, when they introduced personal sanctions against our oligafras ..., fie oligarchs and government officials crypt right there jumped in price by the order! The question is why?))) And you answer about Deripaska’s side, crypt and dollar)))) hi
              1. 0
                15 February 2020 20: 27
                Quote: Malyuta
                when they introduced personal sanctions against our oligafras ..., fie oligarchs and government officials, the crypt immediately jumped in price by the order! The question is why?)

                with an increase in emissions (and haven't you mentioned the mining of Deripaska for the entire state district power station?), the cost should fall, a problem
                1. +8
                  15 February 2020 20: 56
                  Quote: poquello
                  with an increase in emissions (and haven't you mentioned the mining of Deripaska for the entire state district power station?), the cost should fall, a problem

                  What a twist)))) belay Colleague, you apparently have little idea of ​​the "emission", for example, "Bitka" and who may be its issuer and are completely unaware of how the crypt has grown since the introduction of personal sanctions, and, accordingly, the profitability of investments in cryptocurrencies of any currency.
                  And now I explain to you in Russian that at the time of imposing sanctions against bureaucrats and oligarchs from the inner circle, a huge amount of money stolen was withdrawn into the crypt, and Deripaska, having free energy for him, began to mine the same crypt on his own, building many mining farms, but rather mining factories, having unprecedented gesheft from this, since demand was far ahead of supply. At that time, the president was very enthusiastic about digitalization of the economy and other things to simple reason beyond the control of I hope EGA, so you understand?
                  Read a colleague in the bowels of the tyrnet everything is there and is available for you, and you can even conduct a personal experiment by buying 100 .... for 0,000000 Baku cents. 1 cue ball, and after half a year change it back))) And seizam will open for you wink
                  By the way, here was a colleague who quite confidently worked with the cue ball and shared his experience with everyone. good
                  1. 0
                    16 February 2020 05: 07
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    about the profitability of investments in the crypto of any currency.

    3. +1
      15 February 2020 09: 48
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      . For those who do not see and do not understand in what ways he achieves this ...

      It’s strange, but quite recently, a "reboot", "our partners and friends" poured out of each iron, and the answer to "they will throw it this way" is that we are stupid, we will not be thrown ...
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 10: 31
        So this is the fifth column of irons whistled.
      2. +2
        15 February 2020 10: 33
        Quote: mat-vey
        It is strange, but quite recently a "reset" was pouring out of each iron,

        This was the last attempt, just the striped ones meant by it the rollback of Russia in the 90s, and the Russian barbarians decided that equal relations from scratch would begin - that’s what savages are.
        By the way, the button says "overload")))
  4. +4
    15 February 2020 09: 46
    Instead of sanctions, they would recall the territories taken from Mexico.
    1. 0
      15 February 2020 10: 31
      Why remember?
    2. 0
      15 February 2020 22: 34
      Mexicans are slowly settling in the Southwest of the United States. Soon the president of the United States will choose a "Latinos" to begin with from a family of "refugees" from Cuba (of course, already born in the United States), then a "Mexican". Over time, New Mexico will reunite with Old Mexico.
  5. 0
    15 February 2020 09: 49
    Although the courage was enough to tell the truth, and not to bustle and not lie, like some others. ..
  6. -2
    15 February 2020 10: 03
    They give us sanctions, and we give them engines for missiles, invest in their securities, and we are waiting for investors in national projects.
    RUSSIA A Bountiful SOUL ©
  7. +9
    15 February 2020 10: 04
    Mexico is the largest country supplying guest workers to the United States.
    Hosting the production of American firms in its territory.
    With most young people dreaming of getting American citizenship.
    Mexico will never become a major trading partner of Russia, especially in the defense sector.
    It’s easier to assume that Poland will ask us to host military bases ... laughing
  8. 0
    15 February 2020 10: 05
    that the acquisition of Russian-made military helicopters will not take place. The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions.
    For some reason I remembered the word "carsharing" ...
  9. +2
    15 February 2020 10: 06
    Sanctions, drug stop meks stop buying?
  10. -4
    15 February 2020 10: 24
    20 years before Dunaevsky's "Merry Fellows" - Mexican ... Plagiarism. Even Stalin partially admitted it.
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 10: 41
      Valery, and what? All have a beer. But no one will communize our song about the captain. wink
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 10: 48
        I agree. drinks For example, who invented the radio, they still break spears. Ideas are floating somewhere in the mental shell of the Earth ... But Mendeleev, like, dreamed, but the first element was Ether, I do not remember how he correctly called it. The table was a little different. But it was quickly adjusted.
  11. +1
    15 February 2020 10: 28
    Mexico has signed an agreement with Russia for the purchase of Ansat helicopters, the first will arrive in April. Everything is in "sanitary" design. To prevent them from having a desire to buy Russian combat helicopters, the Americans intimidate them with sanctions.
  12. +2
    15 February 2020 10: 29
    An American uncle came and gave the belt to an independent Mexican region.
  13. +2
    15 February 2020 10: 29
    Why not calculate all the direct and indirect damage from US sanctions and for this amount not to seize their assets with us, or subtract from debts to Western banks?
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 10: 43
      Have you decided to arrange another revolution with consequences? Then you have to dispossess all the oligarchs such as Abramovich, etc. Nationalize everything around. And what will it lead to?
      GDP has made it clear that there will be no privatization results. Yes, and Russia has already joined the global economy, although in my opinion it is harmful.
      1. +1
        15 February 2020 10: 52
        Valery, if we joined, then we would flow in a general stream of sewage. And we got into it. Well, I hope...
      2. 0
        15 February 2020 10: 57
        Quote: Fedorov
        And Russia has already joined the global economy, although in my opinion it’s harmful

        Well, it didn’t do so much, in which case (such as another crisis), the losses will not be large. Compared with the economic giants, which in the world economy are the glands themselves. If it will collapse, then these will fly first .. So it is not yet known whether sanctions are evil, or vice versa, good.
      3. 0
        15 February 2020 18: 12
        Quote: Fedorov
        Have you decided to arrange another revolution with consequences? Then you have to dispossess all the oligarchs such as Abramovich, etc. Nationalize everything around. And what will it lead to?
        GDP has made it clear that there will be no privatization results.

        It turns out interestingly: he promised about retirement periods that while he is president ...
        So what the hell is not joking.
        But the oligarchs have only one path: we will not dispossess them here, they will dispossess them where scarves instead of towels are in the bathrooms.
  14. +3
    15 February 2020 10: 41
    They were afraid of the sanctions. But boasting of their "independence" Americans continue to call them "gringos" with contempt. But as soon as the gringo hinted at the sanctions, immediately interest in Russian helicopters disappeared.
  15. +1
    15 February 2020 10: 52
    The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions.
    No one doubted it. You can't buy the best, because it's Russian. Buy worse and more expensive, because American. Otherwise, sanctions. Here's the whole truth of life. And also everything you need to know about "blessed capitalism" and "free market".
  16. 0
    15 February 2020 10: 52
    Ensuring "fair competition" among the states of the WTO in American ...
  17. -2
    15 February 2020 11: 49
    Here you have the WTO and democracy, and free. trade. Sanctions rule.
  18. 0
    15 February 2020 12: 05
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Mexico claims that the acquisition of Russian-made military helicopters will not take place. The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions.
    . The United States had not even threatened them, and the Mexicans were already liquid. Why do they need combat helicopters? They have more white sheets and diapers
  19. +2
    15 February 2020 13: 11
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Mexico claims that the acquisition of Russian-made military helicopters will not take place. The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions. Here are the "charms" of a free democratic world .... of a "pro-Western" world ... in all its glory! lol
  20. 0
    15 February 2020 13: 55
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Mexico claims that the acquisition of Russian-made military helicopters will not take place. The reason for this was the threat of American sanctions.

    Panic will just start in the USA ... Russians are flying to us))))
  21. 0
    15 February 2020 13: 58
    Fair competition? Market relations? I did not hear her!
  22. 0
    15 February 2020 14: 30
    Until Russia starts to behave super hard with all sorts of radishes, nothing will change. Now, if you prohibit rd180, titanium, places on unions, etc. With them, only an example is shown. Immediately collect all subjects in a cage and only for exchange. And then the ICC is not a decree for them, but we, like, persuade everything. And they only need this. Inhumans, spoiled the whole mood in the morning.
  23. 0
    15 February 2020 15: 04
    It is necessary to take eggs in a fist and introduce retaliatory sanctions and take other measures to purchase American equipment. Anyway, why increase exports with such difficulties and humiliations, if they themselves have a shortage of weapons and military equipment. It's time to start printing rubles and hammer machines with orders for the Russian Federation.
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 22: 48
      For a start, don't go to McDonald's, don't drink Coca-Cola and other "pops", don't buy cars with American brands and owned by American firms ... don't buy an iPhone after all. Will be removed from all American Internet resources, for example Twitter ... do not "google".
      1. 0
        18 February 2020 11: 07
        I agree completely! Let’s announce such a challenge with you - without McDonald’s, Coca-Col, iPhone, etc.
  24. 0
    15 February 2020 15: 49
    not surprised .. there sedna and Airbus bent .. duties were raised .. I hope there are no illusions ... I don’t take liberals in the even .. it's the lackeys of the west
  25. 0
    15 February 2020 23: 36
    For me, if they’ve already entered into all sorts of WTOs, then maybe it’s worth suing, and not bloating cheeks. It is clear that without options there is something to win, but to create hype and even precedents by the fact itself.
  26. 0
    16 February 2020 14: 42
    Quote: Private-K
    "American Ukraine" is Texas, California. For instance

    Texas is more like Mexican LPR and DPR.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%81
  27. 0
    16 February 2020 22: 21
    There is a suggestion -. let's give our turntables to the Mexicans for no reason, and in addition we will service them absolutely free of charge, supply consumables, fuel and everything else, train the flyers, technical personnel, and most importantly, we will pay them annually some pleasant sum, well, where something on the order of Lama bucks, for each turntable, just for the fact that they honor us and deign to use our turntables. Say marasmus - certainly marasmus, but for that our first persons will be able to screw in somewhere on occasion - "But look what cool helicopters we have, even the MEXICANTS themselves do not disdain to use them" That's what our first person will be pleased laughing laughing laughing
    1. 0
      17 February 2020 19: 01
      Look, what a cunning business plan! :)