Ukraine proposed Romania to confront Russia on the Black Sea together

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Ukraine proposed Romania to confront Russia on the Black Sea together

Ukraine frantically looking for allies to "confront Russia" on the Black Sea. Kiev turned to Bucharest with a corresponding proposal, since "both countries are concerned about the threatening actions of Russia in the Black Sea region." This was written in his Telegram channel by the Ukrainian Minister of Defense Andrei Zagorodniuk.

Kiev suggested that Bucharest "be friends against Moscow together" and strengthen cooperation in the naval sphere to "more effectively counter common threats in the Black Sea region." The meeting of the heads of the military departments of Ukraine and Romania was held at the Munich Conference on Political Security. Zagorodniuk and Nicolae-Ionela Chuke discussed the possibility of exchanging information about the air and sea situation in the Black Sea.



This will help us better respond to common threats in the region.

- said the Ukrainian minister.

In addition, Zagorodniuk suggested that Nicolae-Ionela Chuke conduct joint Ukrainian-Romanian military exercises and expand the activities of the international engineering battalion "Tisa".

The Minister of Defense of Ukraine expressed hope that Romania will support Ukraine’s desire to join NATO.

Note that Kiev has repeatedly accused Moscow of allegedly various violations that Russia commits in the Black Sea. Since Ukraine cannot present anything besides unfounded statements, it is looking for “partners” who would support it in the charges. Often they become the countries of the Black Sea region, previously included in the Warsaw Pact, such as Romania or Bulgaria, as well as the former republics of the USSR.
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  1. +13
    15 February 2020 06: 48
    History repeats itself in the form of Fars ... Romanians again climb into Odessa? Well...
    1. +2
      15 February 2020 07: 02
      Quote: Hunter 2
      History repeats itself

      Unfortunately yes! All this has already been ..
    2. +3
      15 February 2020 07: 15
      I propose that Ukraine, in order to make Romania a better place for itself, again transfer territory to it, as was done during the time of Yushchenko when the gas shelf around the Snake Island in the Black Sea was transferred to Romania, just to please the collective West and not have obstacles to entry to NATO.
      I think Romania can safely ask for half of the Odessa region, once the Izmail region,. At the time of inclusion in the Ukrainian SSR in 1940 and until 1954, this was the only region of the republic where the predominant ethnic group, albeit relatively, was Russian. The German population left Bessarabia after its inclusion in the composition. It was abolished by a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of February 15, 1954, the territory was transferred to the Odessa region of the Ukrainian SSR. After 2 months, on April 26, the Supreme Soviet of the USSR approved the liquidation of the region.
      According to the Romanian census of 1930, 550 people lived in the Izmail region, of which Russians were 433 people. (133%), Bulgarians - 501 24,25 (122%), Romanians (and Moldavians) - 530 22,26 (100%), Ukrainians - 150 18,19 (81%), Germans - 767 14,86 (60 , 881%), Gagauzians - 11,06 21 (593%), others - 3,92 12 (373%). The Romanian authorities allocated 2,25 thousand lipovans to a separate category, although they are in fact also Russian. 7 thousand Bulgarians from the village of Vaysal (Vasilyevka) were recorded by Romanians.

      Who will remember how the Russians disappeared and assimilated? recourse
      1. -4
        15 February 2020 11: 32
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        At the time of inclusion in the Ukrainian SSR in 1940 and until 1954, this was the only region of the republic where the predominant ethnic group, albeit relatively, was Russian

        I will tell you more: in 1940 Romania transferred to the USSR BESARASK REGION OF RUSSIA.

        it was last the province of Russia and New Russia.

        Moreover, Moldavians Were not there by an absolute majority, it was a remarkably international region of Russia.

        And so against the will of its inhabitants one month after her release ... she was cut into national pieces-Moldova and Izmail region. Ukraine.

        But the Gagauz and the Bulgarians in general turned out to be ... cut into pieces: half in Ukraine, half in Moldova
    3. +2
      15 February 2020 07: 51
      Quote: Hunter 2
      History repeats itself in the form of Fars ... Romanians again climb into Odessa? Well...

      This thought also slipped Aleksey ..))) And another episode from the movie Brother -2 laughing
    4. +7
      15 February 2020 09: 14
      Quote: Hunter 2
      History repeats itself in the form of Fars ... Romanians again climb into Odessa? Well...

      Well, for the pack of Romanians near Odessa? wink
      In fact, everything can be expected from the former allies under the Warsaw Pact. At one time, all of eastern Europe from Poland to Bulgaria was a sanitary cordon against Soviet power. And now all of them, including Ukraine and Tribaltica, make up the new sanitary cordon-2.
      Napoleon misses these "orderlies" in ward 6.
      1. +7
        15 February 2020 13: 14
        Quote: Sergey Olegovich
        At one time, all of eastern Europe from Poland to Bulgaria was a sanitary cordon against Soviet power.

        Limitrophs they are. Don’t feed bread, let’s just yank at Russia.
  2. KCA
    +2
    15 February 2020 06: 56
    The two greatest sea powers decided to be friends against us, well, that's it, now the KChF will not come out of the bases at sea, everyone will die from laughter
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 07: 45
      Quote: KCA
      well that's it, now KChF from the bases in the sea just won’t come out, everyone will fall from laughter

      And then they will think for a long time what class of troughs this "scarecrow" belongs to laughing
      1. KCA
        +1
        15 February 2020 08: 04
        Wrong photo, no piece of pier welded to board
        1. 0
          15 February 2020 08: 13
          Quote: KCA
          Wrong photo, no piece of pier welded to board

          Rusted and fell off the road
        2. +4
          15 February 2020 10: 34
          Quote: KCA
          Wrong photo, no piece of pier welded to board


          Underpresident and rotten "Ukraine"! What a symbolic photo.
  3. +8
    15 February 2020 06: 57
    The Romanians are sitting quietly and peacefully, they are not touching anyone, but no, Ukraine is trying to drag them into their adventures. negative
    1. +2
      15 February 2020 07: 48
      Quote: bessmertniy
      The Romanians are sitting quietly and peacefully, they are not touching anyone, but no, Ukraine is trying to drag them into their adventures. negative

      Orkains somehow tried to drag Germany into an adventure along the passage under the Crimean bridge to the Sea of ​​Azov. Some Frau seemed to agree. Then Merkel asked her, "And if the Russians start shooting?"
      Frau immediately bit her tongue and didn’t raise this question anymore.
    2. +2
      15 February 2020 09: 18
      Quote: bessmertniy
      The Romanians are sitting quietly and peacefully, they are not touching anyone, but no, Ukraine is trying to drag them into their adventures.


      Well, how is it - "they sit peacefully and do not touch anyone"? And what about the Polish-Baltic-Romanian alliance? The desire for revenge on the mamalyzhniki has not left them since the collapse of the "Warsaw Pact". To the fanfare they went to Hitler, to the fanfare they went to NATO (and the goal is the annexation of Moldova and part of the lands of the same Ukraine, and - woo-a-la = great Transylvania, which the puppeteers will gladly approve).
      1. +3
        15 February 2020 09: 24
        This is clear that the crushed NATO and do not blather. It's just that Romania rarely slips into the information field. And this is a sign that this is a "swamp" in which they do not even croak. what
        1. +9
          15 February 2020 13: 23
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And this is a sign that this is a "swamp"

          A rotten swamp and they croak, just not as loudly as in Poland or Ukraine with the Baltic states.
          from an article by Komsomolskaya Pravda
          https://www.kp.ru/daily/24423/593448/
          “We hate Russians, and let's be frank, we always hated you!”

          “In Romania, there is a fashionable political trend - hatred of the Russians,” confirms political consultant Mircea Popa. - This is a generally accepted position that is shared by all popular politicians. About Russians, either badly or not at all. The more you scold the Russians, the more you gain points from voters ... Russia is a real devil for us, Romanian historians conjure us: in no case do business with Russians! ”
    3. +1
      15 February 2020 10: 38
      Quote: bessmertniy
      The Romanians are sitting quietly and peacefully, they are not touching anyone, but no, Ukraine is trying to drag them into their adventures. negative

      Is it better for Romanians not to move, with Amer rockets on their own? territories in order not to provoke a preemptive strike from Russia.
    4. 0
      15 February 2020 11: 21
      https://youtu.be/sPvIC1UkwG4
  4. +4
    15 February 2020 07: 00
    Ukraine frantically looking for allies to "confront Russia" on the Black Sea
    So convulsively that it already brings the cheekbones and the legs do not go, because there is no own fleet, and the "war" with Russia has been going on for six years ... For some reason (?) countries that have a proper navy do not express their desire to directly face the Russian fleet because of Ukrainian wishes. It is strange that they did not turn to Erdogan, who showed his loyalty to the Kiev regime - he loudly shouted the OUN greeting, once again declared that Crimea was "annexed" and further on according to the anti-Russian list.
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 07: 54
      Quote: rotmistr60
      because no fleet

      How not?
      And this?

      Plus upgraded
  5. +3
    15 February 2020 07: 00
    Together they will inflate beach mattresses in NATO coloring and launch towards the Crimea, creating a threat to the Russian Navy!
  6. +6
    15 February 2020 07: 00
    Surprisingly, Russia is the enemy No. 1 for Ukraine, while Russia is doing business with Ukraine!
    Is this a kind of masachism?
    1. +1
      15 February 2020 10: 43
      Quote: Qwertyarion
      Surprisingly, Russia is the enemy No. 1 for Ukraine, while Russia is doing business with Ukraine!
      Is this a kind of masachism?

      No, pure calculation! Making a fog with shouts of "war", someone "is not sickly chopping cabbage" being a monopolist in the purchase of a whole line of Russian goods and slapping the hands of competitors with an anti-Russian bogey.
    2. +2
      15 February 2020 13: 10
      Qwertyarion .... Surprisingly, Russia is the enemy No. 1 for Ukraine, while Russia is doing business with Ukraine! Is it that kind of masachism?

      In Soviet times, there was no word "business" - there was the word "speculation". What was prosecuted by law. But despite the harsh law, speculation flourished. Therefore, there is an expression - "to whom the war, and to whom the mother is dear." US "business" has grown and continues to grow, solely on wars, and sales of weapons of war.
      The psychology is simple - homosapiens has the most precious thing, this is life, he is ready to give a lot to save it. hi
  7. +5
    15 February 2020 07: 19
    The two "richest powers" of Europe have decided to unite their naval armada!
  8. +3
    15 February 2020 07: 21
    They are looking for brothers in "reason" - he who seeks will always find, and even enter.
  9. -1
    15 February 2020 07: 30
    Yes, mothers are noble allies and partners)))) Zele urgently read the history of the Second World War.
    1. 0
      15 February 2020 10: 45
      Quote: Lamata
      Yes, dandies are noble allies and partners

      My mother-in-law, being small, fell under German-Romanian occupation. So she said that the Germans in comparison with Romanians are angels.
      1. -2
        15 February 2020 11: 57
        Also heard evil and thieves were excellent. But the worst of all are Hungarians and Croats.
      2. 0
        15 February 2020 20: 09
        They told me something else .. Thieves and arrogant yes, but not punishers and killers, to the gypsies, Slavs and Jews exactly.
  10. +3
    15 February 2020 08: 08
    Well, compared with the ukropitek flotilla, Romanians are serious guys. 4 frigates, 4 corvettes, 6 missile boats and even have a submarine. On the other hand, with the world on a thread, a naked shirt. At least they solve the problem. When will they intensively begin to solve the problem of our fleet?
    1. KCA
      +1
      15 February 2020 08: 29
      Yes, here is their fleet for 2014, and so the tears, and even 6 years have passed, are the most powerful weapons of the P-15M, I think. all missile storage and operating dates are long gone
      https://topwar.ru/39218-sostoyanie-i-perspektivy-razvitiya-voenno-morskih-sil-rumynii-2013.html
  11. 0
    15 February 2020 08: 10
    And what kind of Romanian armored boat is partially visible on the headband? Who will tell?
  12. +3
    15 February 2020 08: 19
    What to do, it’s so arranged in nature, all sorts of weak, but evil creatures strive to get into a flock!
    So there are all sorts of "Lithuanian-Polish-Ukrainian brigade" or the group "Baltic Plus" in PACE ...)))
    1. +2
      15 February 2020 10: 47
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      What to do, it’s so arranged in nature, all sorts of weak, but evil creatures strive to get into a flock!

      Jackals are called!
      1. +2
        15 February 2020 12: 12
        Here is a description of the habits of a jackal from the book: "A cowardly, cunning and resourceful animal" ...
        Very suitable for characterizing the politicians of these countries.
        By the way, there are still hyenas.)))
  13. +2
    15 February 2020 08: 31
    Here are the restless! All the suckers are looking for who would fight for them. Do the Romanians need it?
    1. +2
      15 February 2020 08: 44
      Well, there is only one point in all their current attempts - to bring NATO into an armed conflict with Russia. This topic includes such "initiatives" as the transfer of the Black Sea shelf to the Americans for the development of hydrocarbon production (knowing that there is Russia's zone of responsibility) or the sale of Donbas lands to the same Americans ...
      1. +2
        15 February 2020 10: 52
        Quote: Narcolog
        Well, there is only one sense in all their current attempts - to bring NATO into an armed conflict with Russia.

        Fools do not understand that in the battle of Russia with NATO they will be trampled upon and will not notice it.
        1. +1
          15 February 2020 10: 58
          Now here's a new trick - Romanians have signed as "allies" against Russia. Like, a formidable member of NATO, for which all NATO countries will stand up, if that. After all, old man Lavrov was right ...
          1. +1
            15 February 2020 11: 10
            Quote: Narcolog
            right was the old man Lavrov ...

            Oh right!
  14. 0
    15 February 2020 08: 38
    Of course, mothers are still those shots, but they have more brains than banderlogs, this is an indisputable fact.
  15. 0
    15 February 2020 08: 41
    No wonder there is such an expression - "captive Romanian".
  16. 0
    15 February 2020 09: 14
    Two great sea powers - Ukraine and Romania ...
  17. 0
    15 February 2020 09: 19
    Do not put a minus to the trolls, this is their earnings. Ignor is a complete lack of attention. The modelers themselves will bane
  18. 0
    15 February 2020 09: 42
    It will be good if Romania and Ukraine will be allies
  19. 0
    15 February 2020 10: 26
    Freeloaders decided against whom we will be friends))
  20. -1
    15 February 2020 11: 12
    And why only with Romania, but Bulgaria, Hungary, etc. as? Yes, and Poland may be offended ...
  21. -2
    15 February 2020 11: 34
    Well, that has long been clear. NATO does not shine. So, at least, with gypsies in one cart. Stink and lice - you can tolerate. The main thing is to put a beggar from NATO around your neck, and think that if your hair suddenly falls off a stick because of Russian aggression, then an overseas dinosaur will stand on its hind legs. In the name of, you know, whether Article 5 of the Charter of this peace-loving organization.
  22. +1
    15 February 2020 12: 39
    Suicide Club.
  23. 0
    15 February 2020 15: 24
    One beggar with defective brains decided to help another beggar. Romance.
  24. 0
    15 February 2020 22: 01
    I respect everyone, but I don’t understand the word Russian, I only understand that I was born in Russia! I am from Chuvashia, if anyone does not know this between N. Novgorod and Kazan, simply put from Cheboksary (Chuvash). Explain to me where such a nationality pure Russian lives? ps do not forget about the word insemination with other nations.

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