“Surroundings or Flight”: Front of pro-Turkish militants on the verge of collapse


Damascus is a stone's throw from victory: the lightning-fast advance of its troops poses a threat of collapse of the entire group of terrorists who have settled in the territories adjacent to Turkey.


After control was established over the entire M-5 highway, the Syrian army began their advance west of the highway, breaking through to the key city of Atarib. At the same time, from the north, from the side of Nubul and Zahra, the offensive of Damascus units combined with the Kurds begins. From the western outskirts of Aleppo continues to advance 4th tank division.

As the situation develops, [militants] will need to decide whether to take flight or to be surrounded

- writes the publication GeopoliticsNews.

As can be seen from the map presented, Atarib is currently a kind of jumper, which prevents the forces of Damascus from breaking up the militants into two separate groups. Further beyond this last major stronghold, there are only a couple of towns and, finally, the Turkish border.


Atarib and the Turkish border



The alignment of forces and the direction of attack on Atarib


If the operation is successfully completed, the militant troops will be dissected, and in one of the enclaves will be the largest city of Idlib, which has become the political center of the Turkish forces in the country.

Given the constant blows of the Syrian army on all fronts, the terrorists are not able to regroup, suffer significant losses among personnel and equipment, and therefore are not able to free up forces, despite the fact that they have a Turkish corridor behind them. These circumstances pose a real threat of their loss of this strategically important city and, after this, the collapse of the entire front with all the ensuing consequences.

Judging by the actions of the Turkish authorities, Ankara avoids the large-scale use of its army and is limited to individual provocations. However, the supply of Turkish sharply intensified weapons, armored vehicles and man-portable air defense systems. Just due to the appearance in the hands of terrorists of a significant arsenal of MANPADS, losses are observed among the Syrian army aviation. Previously, their mass distribution was under a kind of taboo, which was approved by all parties to the conflict.

Because of this, the business is taking a serious turn. After all, it is Russian aviation that controls the airspace of Syria, preventing Turkish combat aircraft and helicopters from disrupting the offensive of Damascus. In this regard, the fastest pace of advancement of Assad units is required. The fate of the country largely depends on the lightning speed of their actions. Surroundings and flight are what are already showing up on front sections in Idlib. Moreover, the flight is closer to the Turkish observation posts. This leads to a situation where the front of the pro-Turkish militants is not at the brink of collapse. And the further fate of the militants is directly dependent on the level of Turkish support.

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  1. Never mind 14 February 2020 23: 39 New
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    Good luck to the Syrians in their difficult task of restoring justice!
    1. Range 15 February 2020 01: 07 New
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      They are getting rid of the Basmachi in the north and it will be necessary to resolve the issue of the Golan Heights if Israel does not stop the vile shelling of Syria. Israel will play out and Fascistton will not help.
      1. bessmertniy 15 February 2020 01: 23 New
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        In matters of justice, it is important that the Turks get out of Syria and take with them their henchmen.
      2. boss 15 February 2020 07: 32 New
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        and who else would you like to deal with wounded Syria?
        there how many years the war goes on 8?
      3. Horst78 15 February 2020 08: 38 New
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        In my opinion, Israel is now a fascist state. In view of its foreign policy and military operations. PS hello to moderators hi
        1. tarackanovaleksei 15 February 2020 20: 35 New
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          Israel is American
          ,, six.
      4. max702 15 February 2020 12: 55 New
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        Quote: Spectrum
        They are getting rid of the Basmachi in the north and it will be necessary to resolve the issue with the Golan Heights,

        This is precisely the main reason for the war in Syria .. Israel categorically does not need strong neighbors .. Too many complaints against it .. That’s so that there would be no threat to Israel all the Arab spring was started .. first, Saddam’s kid, then igil and Assad must leave, here Iran .. Hussites in Yemen and others .. Beggars of the defeated country and one Israel in white .. Something similar the United States is trying to crank up global planetism along with globalism .. Like dermo everywhere and only the brightest valinor is the hope of mankind ... Such is the bestial and despicable moral of universal people with fair faces and correct genes ..
  2. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 23: 50 New
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    The fate of the country largely depends on the lightning speed of their actions.

    As well as the alignment of political forces in BV
  3. Mountain shooter 15 February 2020 00: 02 New
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    In any offensive, speed is important. You can’t let the enemy come to their senses, regroup, tighten reserves ... he shouldn’t have time to assess the rapidly changing situation ... Apparently, the Turks may be in a stupid situation when their troops remain in Syrian territory, cleared of barmalei ... And it’s good that our VKS "closed the sky" to the Turks ...
    1. Nyrobsky 15 February 2020 00: 48 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Apparently, Turks may find themselves in a stupid position when their troops remain in Syrian territory, cleared of barmaley... And it's good that our VKS "closed the sky" to the Turks ...

      Almost in the mentioned position. Today, there are already 9 Turkish b / posts in the rear of the upcoming CAA and, in fact, perform the function of being in the process, rather than the function of influencing the process. It is possible that Idlib himself will leave Edik as a consolation prize, so that in the eyes of the Turkish inhabitant he does not drop his image below the baseboard and gives an opportunity to somehow justify the loss of the Turkish military, but most of Idlib province will be bitten in favor of Damascus by anyone. In principle, Edik in this situation has no one to blame except himself. Turkey committed to clean up its area of ​​responsibility until September 15, 2018, and today is February 2020. Edik went over all the dates with interest, and now he is too late to rush. those who can do it bring order.
      1. bessmertniy 15 February 2020 01: 25 New
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        It would be necessary to replace the Turkish roadblocks with Russian ones. hi
        1. Lipchanin 15 February 2020 01: 37 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          It would be necessary to replace the Turkish roadblocks with Russian ones. hi

          How?
          By force? So at the moment the Turks are kind of like allies request
          But in another way, if you do not run away
          1. Lamata 15 February 2020 07: 06 New
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            Well, what kind of Turks are our allies. Well, why should the eternal enemy be our ally. Moreover, with everything in 1920-21, Soviet Russia helped the Young Turks with weapons and gold.
          2. revnagan 15 February 2020 10: 34 New
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            Quote: Lipchanin
            How?
            By force?

            Why force? Surround, block, no supplies of ammunition, food, medicine ... Let them sit in the blockade, they’ll leave. Is it also possible with Idlib: the Turks are there? Well, let them sit. Block, communications cut ... Paulus sat out in Stalingrad. To create a dense ring of the blockade, they themselves will be removed when they want to eat and drink.
            1. Egor53 15 February 2020 12: 00 New
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              Alexey, you are wrong. "Why by force? Surround, block, no supplies ..." This is crude and inhumane.

              It is possible to deliver, in the evening, for each Turkish checkpoint a pair of boxes of vodka (at the rate of 3 bottles per person). And the next morning to inform that cold beer and brine are given free of charge 500 meters from the checkpoint. And 100 grams per sober bun.
              The Turks themselves will leave the checkpoints.
              1. revnagan 15 February 2020 18: 55 New
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                Muslims cannot vodka. Allah does not allow. They consume more hashish. Although ... at night, when Allah does not see ... or in the toilet, where he does not look. You can drink vodka and pork laughing .
                1. ANB
                  ANB 16 February 2020 01: 12 New
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                  The Qur'an expressly prohibits the product of vines.
                  I will not name a surah and ayah, of course.
                  Vodka is possible.
                  laughing
                  1. Range 16 February 2020 11: 29 New
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                    Not really. Penguinostan has a lot, if not most, of the lobby of the elite.
                  2. revnagan 16 February 2020 12: 35 New
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                    Quote: ANB
                    The Qur'an expressly prohibits the product of vines.

                    "The Sura Al-Maida says:" Oh you who believed! An intoxicating drink, maysir (gambling), (sacrifices) on stone altars (and fortune telling) by flying arrows - bad deeds (inspired by) shaitan. Avoid this perhaps you will succeed. Verily, the shaitan, with the help of wine and maysir, wants to sow enmity and hatred between you and turn you away from the remembrance of Allah and Namaz. Will you stop (these obscenities)? "
                    Wine was banned not only to drink, but also to sell. Wineskins were taken from merchants who brought alcohol into the city, cut them and poured the contents onto the ground.
                    What is Hamar?
                    Meanwhile, the word "hamar" meant simultaneously "cover with a veil," "intoxicate" and a drink obtained from grape or fruit and berry juices by fermentation. It turned out that if the drink was made in a different way, then it was possible to use it. So, at first beer and pure alcohol, obtained in 860 by a Persian doctor, were not among the forbidden drinks.
                    In Persia, by the way, Zoroastrianism prevailed, preaching a free human choice and being an integral part of the culture of this country. In the immortal poetry of Omar Khayyam and Hafiz there are many enthusiastic lines about wine. And today, although Islam has long been the dominant religion in the country, Zoroastrian communities have survived there, whose members still consume wine. It can be bought in small shops in the southwestern regions of Iran, as well as in the territory of Muslim Albania.
                    Even many famous Muslim figures did not shy away from alcohol. This happened in the Middle Ages, and today.
                    Is it possible or not?
                    Theological debate on this subject continues. In 2008, Islamic theologian Yusuf al-Qaradawi issued fatwa, which allowed the use of alcohol in limited quantities. Al-Qaradawi motivated by the fact that the alcohol content in drinks of less than 0,5% is quite acceptable for the faithful, as it does not lead to intoxication, therefore it cannot contradict the dogmas of Islam. True, many "colleagues" did not support him and immediately entered into a heated discussion. "
                    https://news.rambler.ru/other/37555557-pochemu-musulmanam-nelzya-pit-alkogol/
                    My sister’s friend has a Muslim husband. Well, as a husband ... Well, not about that. So he ate pork cutlets in the toilet: "Allah does not see there." laughing .
                    1. ANB
                      ANB 16 February 2020 16: 31 New
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                      That's all chewed right.
                      That is, if you understand the Qur'an in meaning, and not in letter, then everything that is intoxicating, including drugs and tobacco, is forbidden. And hash, naturally.
                      Colleagues, let's instruct the pluses in the commentary.
                    2. Dimon71 16 February 2020 17: 49 New
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                      I live in Yerevan. Iranians go here in droves. Give thumping water to everyone.
        2. boss 15 February 2020 07: 33 New
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          What for?
          maybe they will not be needed soon?
        3. RVAPatriot 15 February 2020 11: 43 New
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          What's the point ??? If it is under the control of CAA, patrols for the eyes
    2. Lipchanin 15 February 2020 01: 35 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And it’s good that our VKS "closed the sky" to the Turks ...

      They closed it, only they supplied the Babakhs with MANPADS.
      Now it’s also unsafe for both Nsim and Syrians to fly there
      1. bessmertniy 15 February 2020 01: 41 New
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        To replace the Turkish checkpoints with Russian ones, I think that Erdogan should just be hinted. For example, in the next telephone conversation with Putin.
        1. siberalt 15 February 2020 03: 44 New
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          Already talked and did not agree on anything. Erdogan in revenge reduced the purchase of Russian gas by a third. And he will not leave NATO anywhere.
          1. bessmertniy 15 February 2020 05: 11 New
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            He doesn’t want to leave in a good way, he will leave in a bad way! wassat
          2. Campanella 15 February 2020 10: 39 New
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            Even if he doesn’t buy at all, he will be worse.
          3. Egor53 15 February 2020 12: 05 New
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            Oleg, where did you get such information "Erdogan in revenge reduced the purchase of Russian gas by a third."
            There is a noticeable shortage of gas in Turkey, and the Turks will buy it from Russia under any circumstances. Only LNG can be an alternative source of Russian gas, and it is 2 times more expensive. Turkey will not buy gas from the United States at a double price for any NATO carriage.
          4. Yuyuka 15 February 2020 22: 35 New
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            Quote: siberalt
            Already talked and did not agree on anything. Erdogan in revenge reduced the purchase of Russian gas by a third. And he will not leave NATO anywhere.

            and the Turks are not given the opportunity to deliver tomatoes in revenge ... they have chosen all the quotas ... it will be necessary - there will still be revenues
      2. ultra 15 February 2020 10: 37 New
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        Ours below 6 thousand do not fall, and attack aircraft and helicopters seem to have not yet been involved in the operation. Yes, it’s time for the Syrians to stop throwing barrels from helicopters.
    3. private person 15 February 2020 09: 09 New
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      In any offensive, speed is important. You can’t let the enemy come to their senses, regroup, tighten reserves ... he must not have time to assess the rapidly changing situation.


      All this, of course, yes, but for all this you need to have enough strength and reserves. And the Syrians do not have them, they throw the most combat-ready units into battle and are not covered by the rear and the Turks will certainly take advantage of this. It is not for nothing that they supply the barmales of MANPADS, this is primarily against our airborne forces so that they cannot fully help to the Syrians.
    4. Magog 15 February 2020 10: 35 New
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      I suppose there "covered the sky" "Kraukha-4" and "Lever-AV" - the moment obliges. And for everyone except their own (CAA and VKS).
  4. Sergey39 15 February 2020 00: 07 New
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    Erdogan seems to be crushingly defeated. He put everything on the map and lost.
    1. Lipchanin 15 February 2020 01: 38 New
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      Quote: Sergey39
      He put everything on the map and lost.

      Not lost yet
      A wounded beast is even more dangerous
      1. Sergey39 15 February 2020 01: 42 New
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        Quote: Lipchanin
        Not lost yet

        Where is he going to go? He has no support, and he will not risk against Russia.
        Quote: Lipchanin
        A wounded beast is even more dangerous

        But you can expect all sorts of nasty things from him.
      2. Chigi 15 February 2020 05: 52 New
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        Quote: Lipchanin
        A wounded beast is even more dangerous

        So this is the point, that Erdogan is not allowed to feel like a "wounded animal."
        Erdogan is made to feel that he is "a fool."
        Such are the hybrid wars now.
    2. flicker 15 February 2020 01: 58 New
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      Erdogan seems to be crushingly defeated. He put everything on the map and lost.
      It seems like that. And somehow it sharply reduced its media activity, but it was the impression that the speaker works on TV.
      Maybe he really counted on this: "MLRS with the Turkish military, tried to strike at the Khmeimim airbase, hiding behind the militants.

      The night before, Turkish troops, using Turkish-made MLRS that arrived in Syria a few days ago, tried to launch a missile attack on the Russian military base Khmeimim, hiding behind the legend that these were terrorist actions. When deployed directly in the Al-Kabin area, Russian fighters delivered an unexpected blow, turning the Turkish MLRS into a pile of scrap metal and thereby foiling an attack on the Russian air force base. "
      Well, in general, Erdogan didn’t somehow grow together. bully
      1. RideMaster 15 February 2020 03: 16 New
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        Any proofs bills? And then the style reminds North Korean news.
        1. flicker 15 February 2020 09: 54 New
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          reminds the style of North Korean news
          and Israeli does not remind? smile
          The news of interest has a continuation: "According to some reports, in the area from which Turkish troops tried to attack the Khmeimim airbase, there were at least three T-122 Sakarya MLRS, which together would make it possible to launch at least a Russian military airbase 120 rockets. Given the fact that the attack was thwarted, and the Turkish side has not yet commented on the charges of attempting to strike at the Khmeimim airbase, experts believe that the preparation for the attacks was possible thanks to the unmanned aerial vehicle. "
          At the expense of the proofs, on the map of military events (i.e. another source), single strikes were shown (by Russian aviation to the border region of Latakia and Idlib (and there are no military operations there) and destroyed by the MLRS. bully
          1. protoss 15 February 2020 11: 41 New
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            the news is a full hat. T122 seems to hit a maximum of 40 km, so look at the map from where they could shoot at the himeim, only from the extreme southern point and then at the limit of range. but there were no reinforcements there, military operations were not conducted and no strikes were made.
            1. flicker 15 February 2020 14: 33 New
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              T122 seems to hit a maximum of 40 km

              And even a smaller distance. It all depends on the type of projectile, which means you can increase the range. In addition, we are talking about administrative boundaries, you can always penetrate (bypassing settlements) in the depth of several km. (Or conscience will not allow the Turks to cross the admin borders). So the range of 40 km is the problem to be solved - there would be a desire to arrange sabotage. And desires, I think, more than enough.
              fighting is not underway
              So I am about the same. An interactive map of the hostilities showed the site of the strike of Russian aviation on the border of Latakia and Idlib (maybe it was the north of the governorate (as it seems to be called) Hama. That is, the blow was delivered where there was no hostilities. That surprised me. A little later I read about the destruction, the rzso of Turkey, preparing to strike at Khmeimim.
    3. boss 15 February 2020 07: 37 New
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      don't push it, I think Edik is more concerned about where to put the militants now.
      and them, with families, hundreds of thousands. they need to be placed, fed, and it is unlikely that these guys with radical views are ready to integrate into secular Turkish society.
      Edika is truly sorry.
      You do not find that he is in time trouble?
      1. Piramidon 15 February 2020 11: 09 New
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        Quote: patron
        I think Edik is more concerned about where to put the militants now.

        It seems that he already found them application in Libya
    4. Paul Siebert 15 February 2020 08: 40 New
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      Erdogan seems to be suffering a crushing defeat.

      I looked here channel "Fish" in the "Contact".
      Smiling barmalei take a selfie against the backdrop of the burning debris of a Syrian helicopter. Against the disfigured bodies of Syrian pilots.
      The unfortunate pilots are stripped, one has no legs, wallow naked in his native land ...
      Inhumans in the frame, apparently very enthusiastic. Believe in a quick victory. All in clean NATO uniforms, neat beards, one of them has glasses in a fashionable thin frame ...
      Another group of photographs is shining Turkish askers hung with weapons as terminators. They wave their hands to the shooter, say "Hello to Russians!"
      I don’t remember the photos of the Nazis in April 1945, so that they would smile at the camera lens ...
      Maybe the victory is not so close?
      In any case, the butchers from Idlib should not be left alive. To kill and not to capture.
      And then another week - green buses will come again for them. From Turkey. Tour to the Turkish border. The animal drank blood - it will not eat vegetables.
      To get the bastard!
  5. russia2016 15 February 2020 00: 13 New
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    Turks are transferring powerful self-propelled guns and tanks from the Greek borders to Syria, the so-called “most powerful” NATO army cannot scrape together even a couple of normal tanks and is forced to transfer really working military equipment standing on the border with Greece, and not the pile of rubbish that has been preserved since the Second World War war but with which Turkey exposes itself to the whole world as a great armored power :)
  6. Pattor 15 February 2020 00: 53 New
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    What a pile, what 2 world. The Turks have m60 of the latest modifications and Leo2 German. Plus they sculpt their tank. Apparently you really are not aware of the army of the Turks. But in vain.
    1. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 09: 55 New
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      A little information note to our friend about the tank forces of Turkey.
      So the most modern tank in Turkey is the Leopard 2A4. (number of 316 pieces) the majority is naturally located on the border with Greece (since this is the most dangerous enemy, according to the Turks and the most modern tanks they naturally keep there, so Greece has the same ones), then Leopard 1A3 - 1A4, these are types of tanks of the 70s , without any modifications (the number from different sources is about 400 hundred), then the M60A1, M60A3, M60T tanks (in the amount of about 900) are old - tanks of the 1960s, a small part of the fleet of these tanks was modernized by Israel, but this modernization turned out to be a complete fake , by the way, one of the reasons why Turkey and Israel terribly quarreled, which was perfectly proved by the use of these "super-modernized" coffins in Syria - where Kurds and resistance forces burned them dozens like matchboxes of Soviet RPGs, as a result the Turks were forced to remove new ones leopards from the borders of Greece and transfer them to Syria. Yes, I also forgot to mention the 750 M48A5 T1 / T2 tanks (Patton), but I don’t think we should discuss the 1950 tanks here, it’s ridiculous already!
      1. Magog 15 February 2020 10: 46 New
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        Yes, even the T-34. Hang on him with a dynamic defense or KAZ of the same Israeli production - and you can fight, right? And most importantly, the Turkish "partners" have a solid arsenal: hundreds of tanks, no matter how "obsolete" they are!
        1. russia2016 15 February 2020 12: 13 New
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          You can immediately see a major military specialist, "at least on the T-34," are you serious? :)
          1. Magog 15 February 2020 12: 21 New
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            Of course I'm exaggerating! But what, "T-34" is not at all capable of fighting today? RPG-7 is quite successfully used against any modern model of armored vehicles, and its "outdated" characteristics do not bother anyone. There is not a single “major military specialist” here besides you.
            1. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 14: 42 New
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              Here, just someone was trying to rub in us that Turkey is almost an armored superpower, but in fact, with 700 more or less modern tanks, the statement looks like nothing, everything else is just a copy of the old stuff to inflate the numbers. That's what it is about
        2. Grits 15 February 2020 17: 46 New
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          Quote: Magog
          Yes, even the T-34. Hang on him with a dynamic defense or KAZ of the same Israeli production - and you can fight, right? And most importantly, the Turkish "partners" have a solid arsenal: hundreds of tanks, no matter how "obsolete" they are!

          Well, all the same, it’s better to go into battle on a tank of the 50s than on a modern bike.
          1. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 18: 39 New
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            Moreover, I will tell you the armored forces of the Greek neighbor look even more preferable than Turkey, see for yourself the newest Leopard-2A6HEL (170 tanks), Leopard-2A4 (183 tanks), Leopard-1 (526 tanks). So well, now it is also reckoned among the tank powers ?! ;)
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        4. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 21: 31 New
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          Quote: Magog
          Yes, even the T-34. Hang on him with a dynamic defense or KAZ of the same Israeli production - and you can fight, right? And most importantly, the Turkish "partners" have a solid arsenal: hundreds of tanks, no matter how "obsolete" they are!

          I will tell you the armored forces of her Greek neighbor look even more preferable than Turkey, see for yourself the newest Leopard-2A6HEL (170 tanks), Leopard-2A4 (183 tanks), Leopard-1 (526 tanks).
      2. Captain Pushkin 15 February 2020 12: 44 New
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        Quote: Alex Russia
        I also forgot to mention the 750 M48A5 T1 / T2 tanks (Patton), but I don’t think we should discuss the 1950 tanks here, this is ridiculous already!

        Any tank is not funny. Especially in battles of low intensity, as in Syria.
        Syria also uses far from new T-55, T-62, T-72 tanks. This is the 50s, 60s, 70s. When using them for fire support of infantry, the difference in the effectiveness of these tanks of different generations is not large.
        1. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 14: 45 New
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          Here, just someone was trying to rub in us that Turkey is almost an armored superpower, but in fact, with 700 more or less modern tanks, the statement looks like nothing, everything else is just a copy of the old stuff to inflate the numbers. That's what it is about
          1. Captain Pushkin 15 February 2020 17: 39 New
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            Quote: Alex Russia
            Then just someone was trying to rub in us that Turkey is almost an armored superpower

            It is necessary to compare not with the USA or the Russian Federation, but with Syria. Those tanks that Turkey has are enough for a serious war. In the event of its beginning, everything will be decided by the training of crews and command. Everything is not clear here.
            The Turks had the opportunity to provide the best training for the crews, a sufficiently high level of tactical training of officers, but the Syrians have rich combat experience. Usually combat experience beats training, but, again, to some extent, the balance of power.
            With the forces, too, is ambiguous. The Turkish Armed Forces are more numerous and not badly armed, but whether the Turks will be able to concentrate them on the theater of action and provide a numerical superiority or not, the question is ...
            Etc. etc.
            PS If I happened to be in the place of Erdogan, I would turn everything 180 degrees and forget about the dreams of the revival of the Ottoman Empire. Assad would be my closest friend, I would close the border, return all refugees to Syria, agree with Assad on synchronous pressure on the Kurds and start earning money on rebuilding Syria. Same thing in Libya. I would have agreed with Haftar on the terms of post-war bonuses.
            1. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 21: 27 New
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              Exactly, finally, you realized that for Turkey the caliber of the countries with which they are still somehow capable of waging more or less equal wars, these are countries like Syria, dilapidated from war. In the event of a military skirmish with Russia, it will be smeared in a couple of days, and will immediately run to ask NATO for help
              1. Grits 16 February 2020 03: 25 New
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                Quote: Alex Russia
                Exactly, finally, you realized that for Turkey the caliber of the countries with which they are still somehow capable of waging more or less equal wars, these are countries like Syria, dilapidated from war. In the event of a military skirmish with Russia, it will be smeared in a couple of days, and will immediately run to ask NATO for help

                In this case, our tanks will definitely not go to the turret. Everything will be decided by the fleet with Caliber (just have time to recharge) and aviation. Well and a bonus - Iskander from Crimea.
    2. russia2016 15 February 2020 10: 29 New
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      And even more or less capable tanks, about 700, really - a force! Yes, this is really a super tank power! Taking off my hat!
      1. Magog 15 February 2020 11: 07 New
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        It is important here rather than the number of tanks, planes, MANPADS ... but the ability to use all this correctly and on time. Cross-border fights: Turks have the advantage of maneuvering on their own territory. Close them the opportunity to "see" the situation - the key to victory for the CAA. And Russia can help in this by not allowing the same American satellites or aircraft intelligence to view the theater of operations.
      2. Magog 15 February 2020 12: 03 New
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        From an article about EW tools: “EW capabilities completely change the balance of power on the battlefield: even when one of the parties has an overwhelming superiority in high-precision weapons, it cannot win if its control structures are suppressed by EW tools. As a result, the most modern weapons turn into useless a pile of scrap metal. "
    3. ultra 15 February 2020 10: 41 New
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      Leo in Afrin didn’t really show themselves, but the M60, if you don’t modify the old tank, is actually a modernized M48. These are tanks from the era of the 50s.
    4. Paranoid50 15 February 2020 11: 36 New
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      The Turks have m60 of the latest modifications and Leo2 German.

      Wow, how cool ... fellow laughing
      Quote: Pattor
      Plus they sculpt their tank.

      Even cooler - they have fun, without school, without experience ... yes
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  8. Ural resident 15 February 2020 01: 32 New
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    You should not rejoice ahead of time. Erdogan can still annoy, this madman will still twitch when he sees that his dream is coming to dust. But I hope his capabilities have already been calculated and taken into account when preparing the operation.
    1. flicker 15 February 2020 02: 02 New
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      You should not rejoice ahead of time. Erdogan can still annoy, this madman will still twitch when he sees that his dream is coming to dust.
      That is yes. That's just his own military can advise him.
    2. boss 15 February 2020 07: 40 New
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      why do you think that Edik is crazy?
      in my opinion everything is logical.
      Now he will agree and arrange a reservation for fraternal, but completely undesirable in Turkey, radicals of all stripes.
      I do not see another way yet.
      1. flicker 15 February 2020 10: 19 New
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        why do you think that Edik is crazy?

        Of course, crazy. And who, if not a madman, could still agree (in the 21st century, having a middle army) to lead Turkey along the neo-Ottoman path of development (read: to collapse)?
  9. 72jora72 15 February 2020 05: 01 New
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    from Nubul and Zahra, begin the offensive units of Damascus, combined with the Kurds
    I understand that there are some kind of treaties with the Kurds on a joint offensive?
    1. K-612-O 15 February 2020 08: 52 New
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      SAA comes along with the "Forces of the Liberation of Afrin", which are precisely the Kurds, those that turned out to be smarter than the Hasakim, who relied on the Amers.
  10. Retvizan 8 15 February 2020 05: 11 New
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    SAA is really conducting a competent offensive operation, which is developing quickly and very successfully, but I’m not ready to take off Turkey’s role from the shields in the current situation, at least the Sultan has promised so much, threatened so much that now you won’t turn on the back without losing your face.
  11. Thrifty 15 February 2020 05: 26 New
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    Now, along the roar from the USA, the Turks will begin to interfere even more with the Syrian army, a direct collision will be inevitable when Syria takes control of its border with the Turks.
  12. Lamata 15 February 2020 07: 03 New
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    I will cheer for the Syrians, it's time to finish the booth and revive the state.
  13. Divizion 15 February 2020 07: 31 New
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    Damascus is a stone's throw from victory: the lightning-fast advance of its troops poses a threat to the collapse of the entire terrorist group

    I would be glad to believe, but again, as it were, "remeasure" was not requested ..
    Erdogan is hysterical ..
    1. flicker 15 February 2020 10: 35 New
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      Erdogan is hysterical ..
      He had a hysteria a little earlier, when he with his conflicting speeches (either he quits the contract, sometimes demands its fulfillment; then he reports about hundreds of killed Syrians, then he asks for help from NATO, although he sent him a little earlier; then he wakes us to shoot down our airplanes, then he’ll call Putin).
      Now, rather, he is in an extremely depressed state, begins to fall into a state of depression (arises as a protective reaction to excessive psycho-emotional experience).
      Well, something like this is explained by psychology. bully
  14. ximkim 15 February 2020 09: 11 New
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    don't push it, I think Edik is more concerned about where to put the militants now.
    and them, with families, hundreds of thousands. they need to be placed, fed, and it is unlikely that these guys with radical views are ready to integrate into secular Turkish society.
    Edika is truly sorry.
    You do not find that he is in time trouble?

    Yes, he had more time than usual. Simply, I never thought about people with weapons, but only supplied, supplied, supplied. Plus, they are probably angry there and nobody needs anyone. Again. let the Turkish Armed Forces a little suffer losses (weapons, etc.)
  15. orionvitt 15 February 2020 09: 32 New
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    If the operation is successfully completed, militant troops will be dissected
    But to the point, the border with Turkey is still nearby. Now, if the "Turkish corridors" were surrounded and blocked, then yes.
  16. Xomaik 15 February 2020 09: 48 New
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    Syrians must defeat the Turks, although it will not be easy
  17. Alex Russia 15 February 2020 09: 55 New
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    Quote: Pattor
    What a pile, what 2 world. The Turks have m60 of the latest modifications and Leo2 German. Plus they sculpt their tank. Apparently you really are not aware of the army of the Turks. But in vain.

    A little information note to our friend about the tank forces of Turkey.
    So the most modern tank in Turkey is the Leopard 2A4. (number of 316 pieces) the majority is naturally located on the border with Greece (since this is the most dangerous enemy, according to the Turks and the most modern tanks they naturally keep there, so Greece has the same ones), then Leopard 1A3 - 1A4, these are types of tanks of the 70s , without any modifications (the number from different sources is about 400 hundred), then the M60A1, M60A3, M60T tanks (in the amount of about 900) are old - tanks of the 1960s, a small part of the fleet of these tanks was modernized by Israel, but this modernization turned out to be a complete fake , by the way, one of the reasons why Turkey and Israel terribly quarreled, which was perfectly proved by the use of these "super-modernized" coffins in Syria - where Kurds and resistance forces burned them dozens like matchboxes of Soviet RPGs, as a result the Turks were forced to remove new ones leopards from the borders of Greece and transfer them to Syria. Yes, I also forgot to mention the 750 M48A5 T1 / T2 tanks (Patton), but I don’t think we should discuss the 1950 tanks here, it’s ridiculous already!
    Well, as you say about the Turkish tank, you are talking about the Altai tank, they don’t produce it yet, they aren’t in the army, there are problems with production, because almost all the equipment on it is imported, and Turkey also has problems with the embargo weapons (the last example, sanctions were imposed on the production of a licensed Austrian engine for the Altai tank)
  18. kriten 15 February 2020 10: 04 New
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    All this is too optimistic for now .... The Turks are replacing terrorists there, showing their true face.
  19. Vadim. 15 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    "Damascus is a stone's throw from victory"

    Just wondering who this article is addressed to. Every day, one spinner falls and they are a stone's throw from victory?
  20. Mentat 15 February 2020 13: 49 New
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    At the level of operations planning there is simply nothing to oppose to the Russian General Staff and think tanks. The Turks are frankly weaker in this area, the United States will not do it for them either.

    Therefore, they can really slow down something only by massive intervention directly from the Turkish army. But, apparently, the Turks already realized that such stupidity would cost them too much.
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      contrast the Russian General Staff and think tanks

      Yes, yes, for sure. Can you tell me, then, what did the Arabs lose all their wars under the strict guidance of these think tanks? And now the war has been going on for 8 years. Bukhano money, billions, and not rubles. Yes, and lives too. And about the complete Victory, they are dying regularly, several times a year.
  21. Ratmir_Ryazan 15 February 2020 15: 19 New
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    Burning Turkish BMP on Syrian soil satisfied.
  22. 16112014nk 15 February 2020 17: 15 New
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    On Monday, the Turkish delegation arrives in Moscow for negotiations. Maybe ours will make the Turks an offer that they can’t refuse?
  23. Olya Tsako 15 February 2020 17: 33 New
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    Syrian media pay attention that Russia has transferred Solntsepyok under the control of the Syrian military MLRS TOS-1A. This technique has been in Syria since 2015 and effectively stopped any advance of the groups, but was rarely used.
    With the advent of Solntsepek, the Syrian army had a chance to give a worthy answer to any threats from Turkey, but it will be used as a last resort, since in just one hit this installation can hit an area of ​​40 thousand square meters and will freely disable any column military equipment. Its use against Turkey may be the beginning of a direct military conflict between Turkey and Syria, since the Turks are unlikely to agree to such a shameful defeat. There is simply no way to hide from Solntsepek.
    So sho Erdogan was cut by neo-Ottoman wings.
  24. vavilon 15 February 2020 18: 31 New
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    And then you will need to take on the Americans
  25. Mentat 15 February 2020 19: 21 New
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    Quote: mvg
    contrast the Russian General Staff and think tanks

    Yes, yes, for sure. Can you tell me, then, what did the Arabs lose all their wars under the strict guidance of these think tanks? And now the war has been going on for 8 years. Bukhano money, billions, and not rubles. Yes, and lives too. And about the complete Victory, they are dying regularly, several times a year.

    You are a famous anti-Russian vyakalka in this forum. Regularly trying on technical issues to somehow belittle the achievements of Russia, then on geopolitics to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. It turns out not very.
    But I will answer.

    Write down any battle that “the Arabs lost under the leadership of these analytical centers”, we will analyze who lost there, to whom and why. Forward. Just so abstract blathers, just to throw a negative for your precious message counter for the report will not work.
    1. Redfox3k 16 February 2020 03: 12 New
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      The first thing that comes, I must admit, is the disaster in the Bekaa Valley, June 1982. Just the defeat, in fact, of Soviet military-technical thought and tactics, the Jews shut up well.
  26. lvov_aleksey 15 February 2020 21: 25 New
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    we have my experience, let them study in the Air Force, Navy or ICA - on the ground, our infantry will crush everyone!
    ps I forgot all the old abbreviations, but whoever understood me, I’m about learning from the USSR and the Russian Federation
  27. Chaldon48 16 February 2020 03: 15 New
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    As expected, the Turks will be defeated, they don’t have the strength to defeat the Kurds, how they can’t exterminate the Armenians, not in those days, but it’s useless to wave the militia’s porridge as soon as Kramsay doesn’t change much. The Kurds were driven into a corner and they will fight to the end, especially since they have some support.
  28. Mentat 16 February 2020 11: 39 New
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    Quote: Redfox3k
    The first thing that comes, I must admit, is the disaster in the Bekaa Valley, June 1982. Just the defeat, in fact, of Soviet military-technical thought and tactics, the Jews shut up well.

    Already a hundred times about these events have been said. Briefly, the Syrians ignored almost all the recommendations of military advisers regarding the duty of calculations, changing positions, placing, acquiring a centralized air defense control system for which there was not enough money. The Israelis discovered a lot of such weaknesses in the organized "system" of air defense, which was a sieve, and took advantage of them, we must admit expertly.

    As for the ground side of the campaign, Israel suffered a crushing defeat and was forced to retreat, as you probably know.

    So this can be called a catastrophe with a stretch, if at all possible, because goals were never achieved, and certainly not a defeat of Soviet military-technical and managerial thought, the school of which, by the way, was used by the Israelis, whose tank forces generally grew out of it. They could not beat the teachers on earth. In addition, Israeli armored vehicles were frankly weaker.
  29. Mentat 16 February 2020 11: 56 New
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    Quote: Pattor
    Plus they sculpt their tank.

    They do not sculpt their own tank, but cheapen the Korean K2. In addition, the Koreans banned the export to Turkey of a number of systems of their tank, so the Turks buy a Korean box or assembled under license and try to make it go. At the same time, the Germans banned the export to Turkey of their engine, which was originally installed on K2. Until the box rides.
  30. alex-sherbakov48 16 February 2020 16: 54 New
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    Rather, these barmaley would have been kicked out of Syria into Turkey. Let them bring up their fosterlings themselves !!!
  31. Yuri Shalnov 17 February 2020 18: 53 New
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    In vain Russia got in touch with Turkey ... Turks blood traitors and all the time of their existence hated Russia! Today the USA, Turkey and Israel are worthy followers of Hitler - without honor, conscience and dignity!