Testing of a promising new torpedo completed

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Testing of a promising new torpedo completed

KTRV products

In Russia, the state tests of the latest promising torpedoes and an adjustable bomb of a caliber of 250 kilograms have been completed. This was announced by Boris Obnosov, General Director of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation (KTRV).

Responding to a question from journalists, Obnosov said that the corporation had completed state tests of a new promising torpedo and that documents and an aerial bomb were being prepared for it. At the same time, he did not voice the name of the torpedo, since work on it will still be underway.

Now they are getting documentation

- he said.



In addition, the general director of KTRV noted, the corporation is modernizing torpedoes that were still developed in the Soviet Union and have worked well.

(...) there are already so many ships, so many torpedoes. The quantity ordered by the USSR is probably no longer needed. But the torpedoes of the Soviet development, currently in service and well-proven, we are modernizing

- he said.

Obnosov noted that KTRV is not threatened with a reduction in state defense orders, since the corporation is engaged in a wide range of missile weapons, which includes aviation, land and sea subjects. According to him, only this year it is planned to finish three topics on air-to-air missiles, on adjustable air bombs of 1500 and 500 kg, on air-to-surface products, and several more projects.
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  1. +5
    14 February 2020 10: 56
    It is good that one promising torpedo in the country has become more. hi
    1. +8
      14 February 2020 11: 25
      do not carefully read the post ...... the latest promising torpedoes and adjustable bombs of caliber 250 kilograms, ...... that is, two products, all more than one latest and most promising.
      1. +5
        14 February 2020 11: 32
        I am also happy about the bomb, but the torpedo simply attracted attention, because the sea was behind the window. request
        1. -3
          14 February 2020 12: 07
          Quote: bessmertniy
          I'm glad too to bomb

          Paradox, we rejoice at the bomb (I, by the way, too) but we could rejoice at the new schools and kindergartens, but in the modern world built on the principle - "Who is strong and right" - without bombs and torpedoes it is impossible. request
          1. +1
            14 February 2020 12: 12
            Well, yes, I was only happy with the bomb, as they immediately minus it. So think to yourself: what else in our life still rejoice. Indeed, schools and kindergartens, alas, are not enough for joy today. feel It is necessary to supplement something else.
            1. 0
              14 February 2020 12: 46
              Quote: bessmertniy
              Well, yes, just rejoiced at the bomb, as they immediately minus

              Do not worry, here on the site people are different, someone delves into what is written, opposes or supplements, and someone simply flexes his fingers lazy even to get to the bottom of the essence.
          2. +11
            14 February 2020 12: 18
            There would be no bombs - there would be no kindergartens. The civilized world of the 21st century.
            1. +4
              14 February 2020 13: 02
              Quote: pipetro
              The civilized world of the 21st century.

              you might think in other centuries it was different .... request
          3. +15
            14 February 2020 12: 29
            Paradox, we rejoice at the bomb (I, by the way, too) but we could rejoice at the new schools and kindergartens, but in the modern world built on the principle - "Who is strong and right" - without bombs and torpedoes it is impossible. request


            We rejoice at the new bomb and torpedo because only this provides us with peace and the opportunity to build schools, kindergartens and everything else.

            For the very "gifted" example - Libya did not produce weapons there, but they covered the desert, built schools, kindergartens, there was good social protection of the population, but this did not save them from the destruction of the state by Western countries.
          4. +1
            14 February 2020 16: 03
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Paradox, we rejoice at the bomb (by the way, too)

            If you are not happy, it means that you made a mistake with the address and were in the wrong forum! soldier
            1. -1
              14 February 2020 17: 36
              Quote: Kurare
              If you are not happy, it means that you made a mistake with the address and were in the wrong forum!

              Do you have a nice eyes problem? Or with a head not frets? Have you carefully read my comment? Once again, for you - a particularly gifted one, I write: - Paradox, we rejoice at the bomb (I AM BETWEEN ALSO) - I rejoice too! Do you get it now? If not, let me know - I will explain again.
              1. 0
                14 February 2020 18: 08
                I more than understood everything perfectly, that's why I added your comment to my post (by the way, too). Only you did not understand me. And to be rude - do not!
                1. 0
                  14 February 2020 18: 33
                  Quote: Kurare
                  Only you did not understand me. And to be rude - do not!

                  How am I supposed to understand you? If you, in response to my comment, read me a morality and affirm the opposite of what I wrote. Apparently you have too "high style" that even Aesop would envy. hi
          5. 0
            14 February 2020 19: 36
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            but in the modern world built according to the principle - "The one who is strong and is right" - without bombs and torpedoes is absolutely impossible.
            Not who strong one is right а who is strong is alive!
        2. 0
          14 February 2020 16: 06
          Quote: bessmertniy
          I'm glad too to bomb ...

          Isn't it for the Hunter? 250 kg and in the window just what was lacking, for example, in Syria.
  2. -2
    14 February 2020 11: 00
    Not everyone has finished off the optimizers, Good.
  3. +4
    14 February 2020 11: 10
    to a big ship - a big torpedo!
  4. +3
    14 February 2020 11: 11
    At the same time, he did not voice the name of the torpedo, since work on it will still be underway. C'mon, otherwise torpedo specialists will come running here, they will tell you right away about torpedoes, incapable Russians, about the killed industry, and so on.
    1. +3
      14 February 2020 11: 23
      Perhaps we are talking about a high-speed submarine missile "Predator". Since 2013, the development of individual units has been underway. Designed to replace the VA-111 Shkval.
      1. +1
        14 February 2020 11: 38
        State tests completed the torpedo Case (Physicist-2).
        1. +3
          14 February 2020 12: 29
          Physicist-2 was adopted in 2017 and is a developer of the Research Institute of Marine Heat Engineering.
      2. +4
        14 February 2020 11: 38
        Perhaps we are talking about a high-speed submarine missile "Predator". .... at the expense of everyone it is possible .... firstly, the VA-111 is an underwater missile and not a torpedo, and secondly, the work on the "Predator" is being carried out by the Electropribor Design Bureau and this design bureau does not rub any sideways with the KTRV concern, together with Obnosov, learn finally separate flies from cutlets
        1. +2
          14 February 2020 11: 47
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          underwater ROCKET and not a torpedo

          What's the difference? In terminology? For example, "Shkval" is a jet supercavitating straight forward torpedo, it is also a high-speed submarine missile (Decree of the USSR Council of Ministers No. 111-463 of October 13, 1960 on the beginning of development). In terms of subordination: Electropribor could not have been the head organization during the creation of the "Predator", he is responsible for the control system. KTRV is in charge of the parade there.
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 12: 15
            reactive super-cavitating upright torpedo, .... judging by the text of the post, we are talking about a torpedo and nothing more (well, it’s also a promising bonus), let's all specify and not pour water and also call a spade a spade, unlike the territory At
            In terms of subordination: The electrical appliance could not be the parent organization ..., literally, is not part of the KTRV corporation, the side of the EP is rubbing on the topic Predator with Malachite. which is also not included in the KTRV concern, why is the manure crushed in the stupa ?? KTRV has no side to the Predator
            1. -1
              14 February 2020 12: 26
              Where does this love of casuistry come from? Well, if you really follow the law of letters, then catch ... A torpedo is the warhead of a missile / missile system. Examples: torpedo М-5 - warhead "Shkvala", torpedo UMGT-1 - warheads of 83R / RN missiles, torpedo MPT-1 "Kolibri" - warheads of 91R1 and 91RT2 missiles (in the MPT-1UM version), torpedo APR-3 "Orel -M "- warheads of 91R1 and 91RT2 missiles (in the APR-3M version), MTT torpedo" Malyshka "- warheads of the" Packet "complex

              PS. A domestic torpedo cannot reach the target by itself. She needs to fly up to the point of "landing" in the water, so the torpedo is an integral part of the rocket.
              1. 0
                14 February 2020 12: 39
                Examples: torpedo M-5 - warhead "Shkvala", ..... that is, a torpedo as a warhead, an underwater missile Shkval, well, about the warhead of Shkval, a lot of things were pushed, and a vigorous charge and just land mines. so if you please, terminology is a thing that requires precision, otherwise it will not work out
                1. -1
                  14 February 2020 12: 43
                  This is the domestic practice: it was not possible to use the control coils from the launchers, which forced the torpedoes to be launched in flight. "Physicist" was supposed to be an exception from it, going into the water without a preliminary flight.
              2. -1
                14 February 2020 12: 45
                "Shkval" is not a rocket, but a jet torpedo, since it has a ramjet jet engine powered by magnesium + seawater.

                Rocket torpedoes have a rocket engine with ballistic fuel.
                1. -3
                  14 February 2020 13: 20
                  A flurry "not a rocket, but a rocket torpedo ... where did you dig up such nonsense? The fuel for which is magnesium + seawater ... ... along the way, chemistry lessons are forever lost for you, water and magnesium serve to create a cavity, a gas shell, the Flurry moves in a gaseous medium and not in a water one, your school chemist has not died yet? can you visit her
                  1. -1
                    14 February 2020 15: 16
                    How does it move - fart steam? laughing

                    Tie it up with the demonstration of your suburban education, read at least something about "Shkval" in our Rusnet.
                    1. 0
                      14 February 2020 19: 07
                      Tie it up already with the demonstration of your education on the outskirts, ... past, Soviet education, rather, you should read, read, and read from the Unified State Exam, first if you master, start with "Rocket Hydrodynamics", although I doubt that you will
                  2. +1
                    14 February 2020 16: 37
                    VA-111 “Flurry” - the Soviet complex with a high-speed underwater missile (torpedo) M-5 [1]. Designed to destroy surface [2] and underwater targets. It is part of an armament complex deployed on a surface ship, submarine or fixed installation.



                    That's the whole story ...
                    1. 0
                      14 February 2020 19: 09
                      VA-111 "Shkval" is a Soviet complex with a high-speed submarine missile, in brackets is the term of the time when this product did not know what to call it, in any case it is described in detail in the works on "Rocket Hydrodynamics", master it, and don't wander about wikipooms
        2. +3
          14 February 2020 12: 07
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          .the first VA-111 underwater ROCKET and not a torpedo,

          Fir-trees ... an underwater rocket, a torpedo ... Casuistry, damn it! For example, there was a PAT-52 rocket torpedo! Isn't it an "underwater rocket"? However, the "rocket torpedo" is officially "fixed"! The term "rocket-torpedo" is also "popular" ... Maybe, in the future, it is not worth working with cores in terminology?
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 12: 31
            For example, there was a jet torpedo RAT-52! ....... Wax is an aviation lotion, you can’t shoot a torpedo launcher. narrow specialization in the carrier, so that the stone is not in that garden,
            The term "rocket-torpedo" is also "popular" ...... and it is even simpler, the delivery of a conventional torpedo using a rocket missile. everything is business, but an underwater rocket. this is an underwater rocket, all the terminology was invented to distinguish one from another, for example, a bathyscaphe and a bathysphere,
            1. +2
              14 February 2020 14: 13
              Duc, "rocket torpedoes" were created in the 19th century! In my opinion, the Americans succeeded in this business, although ... There were "rocket torpedoes": 1.Monzhera; 2. Deveza; 3.Quick; 4. Barbera; 5. Erickson; 6. Shpakovsky; 7. Weeks ... etc. ! So .... don't talk about "aviation gadgets"!
              1. 0
                14 February 2020 18: 58
                Duc, "rocket torpedoes" were created in the 19th century! ....... teza, in general, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between what a torpedo is and what a rocket is, so here, VA-111 moves in a gas environment, torpedoes, regardless of a power plant, in a liquid medium, in my opinion that's all, or is it all to remind the aggregate states of matter
                1. +1
                  15 February 2020 05: 52
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  it is necessary to clearly distinguish between what a torpedo is and what is a rocket, so, VA-111 moves in a gaseous environment, torpedoes, regardless of the power plant, in a liquid medium, in my opinion this is all, or is it to recall the aggregate states of the substance

                  And I try not to confuse familiar concepts! Only now they do not coincide "in some way" with yours ... 1. For example, the "squall" in publications is often called "rocket-torpedo", but the names are "popular" too: "rocket torpedo"; "submarine missile" ... (Who cares about what, but it does not bother anyone ... everyone understands what this is about!); 2. "carrier" rocket + torpedo = anti-submarine missile (like the "carrier" rocket) + depth charge = anti-submarine missile ...); 3. It does not matter for a rocket in what medium it "moves": "gas", in vacuum, "liquid" ... 4. What are the main blocks of the rocket? What are the main blocks of a rocket torpedo?
                  1. 0
                    15 February 2020 13: 27
                    4. What are the main blocks of the rocket? .... a reactive block (a nozzle of a combustion chamber, fuel, in the case of a decrease in hydrodynamic resistance, a gas productivity block) and an instrument compartment with a warhead. , if controllable then the control compartment is a plus,,
                    What are the main blocks of the reactive torpedo? jet engine and warhead. correction elements are possible. but this is not essential, since cavitation makes no corrections for the reactive dashboard, in any case, the science of Rocket Hydrodynamics explains this
                    Duc Che at the expense of Obnosov. there is progress as this product is even called, I repeat "newest" and "promising"? on the torpedo Physicist everything is clear. and Obnosovskaya does not have any analogs to the Physics ????
        3. +1
          14 February 2020 19: 40
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          first VA-111 underwater ROCKET and not a torpedo
          1 - Her, like, torpedo missile (or torpedo missile) was called?
          2 - Who is stopping the Flurry pusher from being fastened to the Flurry? A flurry unmasks the submarine, and so - released the product, it moved a certain distance, received target designation and launched the taxiway. It will turn out right Predator.
  5. +2
    14 February 2020 11: 11
    Happy! We did not manage to destroy everything in troubled times. We will restore everything, this should be a lesson for us.
  6. -6
    14 February 2020 11: 16
    that the corporation completed state tests of a new promising torpedo ......... Avon as, that is, a torpedo completed a state test, but still promising. that is, have not yet come up with why it is needed. only in perspective. that is verbiage. if you believe what a perspective in life is, then this is (literally)
    - an integral picture of the future in a complex, contradictory relationship of programmed and expected events, on which, in the opinion of the individual, his social value and the meaning of life depend.
    yeah, eco Born Obnosov wound up, go and Stirlitz will not figure it out
    1. +1
      14 February 2020 11: 57
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      that is, the torpedo completed the state test, but still promising

      If the equipment, even already adopted for service, has prospects for modernization, then it is promising.
      1. -1
        14 February 2020 12: 17
        has prospects for modernization, it is promising ..... unfortunately, apart from the words "newest" and "promising", there is nothing in the post, so you can guess on the coffee grounds, but in general, purely in my opinion, there is no which is the latest and most promising
    2. 0
      14 February 2020 12: 33
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      eco Born Obnosov wound up, go and Stirlitz will not figure it out

      You are like Khlestakov, with everyone on a short leg. And with B. Obnosov too? good
      1. -2
        14 February 2020 13: 14
        And with B. Obnosov, too? ...... and it would be better for Obnosov to voice what his latest product is and how effective it is than the previous one, because if Cherkasy suits a statement like the most recent and promising. then I am not, therefore, and banter
        1. 0
          14 February 2020 14: 38
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          The type declaration is the newest and most promising. then I am not, therefore, and banter

          To begin with, to be rude to a stranger without his presence is a cowardly meanness (baseness), not a banter, this is the first. If something doesn’t suit you in the information about these products, you can search them in open sources on the websites of enterprises of developers and manufacturers, and also on the MO website, if there is no information there, then this is classified information, you can search in closed sources if you have access to them, but something tells me, judging by your literacy and manner of communication to you before access, as from Crimea to Moscow on all fours. Therefore, be content with what was provided to you Yes
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 18: 51
            what to be rude to a stranger without his presence - if you please, there’s no rudeness on my part, in any case I didn’t notice
            about the performance characteristics of the products you can search for them in open sources ..... I would love to search and find if ..... the product itself was named. Call me, but I can offer you the same thing, find a torpedo in posikovik with such parameters as "newest" and "promising". if you left a screenshot
            judging by your literacy ..... call me. but yours are off scale compared to mine
            1. 0
              14 February 2020 20: 55
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              I don’t have any rudeness on my part, at least I didn’t notice

              I would like to see how in the presence of B. Obnosov you would call him Borka and show him that he had wooed something. I think your rudeness, you would have to notice with one eye, at least.
              Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
              if you got a screenshot

              And the plebeian manner of poking and trying to hide their ignorance by distributing instructions to strangers gives you an individual born in prison.
              1. 0
                14 February 2020 21: 09
                gives you an individual born in prison .... but this is rudeness,
                how you would call him Borka in the presence of B. Obnosov ... you will not believe it, I will. because it is for my taxes and similar Obnosov to sculpt his miracles. , so everything is in place. the only Cherkasy is out of place. instead of justifying what exactly is hidden under the torpedo, the "newest" and "promising" turns to the individual, and on the topic a complete 0
                Circassian, reminding me of capman number 2627 from "The Dog of the Baskervilles" when, when Sherlock (Lebanon) asked the capman
                -what can you say about your rider ... describe his appearance ..
                capman
                -... dressed neatly, beard .... black. perhaps I can’t say anything more
                it is in the course of your competence ... Circassian
                will be that on the topic. you can discuss tode. Moreover, the request to send a screenshot on the search for the "newest" and "promising" product remained in the shadows, and it is not good to go to particulars.
                1. -1
                  14 February 2020 23: 56
                  Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                  .a this is rudeness,

                  Come on, when it comes to your beloved - rudeness, and when you yourself behave like a boorish banter. Well done. On the topic, I the young man hinted to you that the product is still secret and that their performance characteristics have not been announced by anyone and not anywhere, and you can learn about them only with access to the state secret. You’ll talk about the Baskerville dog in the yard, especially since it’s so emotional and multi-letter. And you won’t be able to insult me, the regular supply of words and thoughts is not the same, so you can not try.
                  1. +1
                    15 February 2020 11: 19
                    the regular stock of words and thoughts is not the same .... that is, as you put it in the wrong system, falling on the sand flying out of the window (white desert sun)
                    now on the topic, .... it was known that the product was still secret and its performance characteristics were not announced by anyone and cannot be found out about them only having access to the state secret ... strange as that, for example, the technical characteristics of the torpedoes of the physicist were voiced, as soon as she became in service with the Russian fleet, and from the first words of the chief designer. what is wrong with Obnosov. Well, TTX. but even though the name of the product is the latest, in short, you yourself do not know and do not want to know. that is our difference
                    1. 0
                      15 February 2020 11: 38
                      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                      falling on the sand flying out of the window (white desert sun)
                      Nevertheless, I am right with the diagnosis — no words, some pictures — you are not interesting to me as a young man with your clip thinking. No one is visible behind Sherlock and Comrade Sukhov - emptiness, I expect in your next opus something like that from Herbert Wells.
                      1. 0
                        15 February 2020 13: 34
                        that kind of HG Wells ... why so pessimistic. I can please .... your optimism can be envied. as San Sanych said in the movie "Sportloto 82" and. the main thing is not any specifics. Duc what is there even about the abbreviation of the newest torpedo onos ???? weak ??
                      2. 0
                        15 February 2020 14: 37
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        Duc that there is at least about the Onos abbreviation of the latest torpedo ???? weak ??

                        Well, you are like Panikovsky: - "Give, give, give a million. Go through the pictures, maybe you will find something, in general, look -" Shura "- look.
                      3. +1
                        15 February 2020 15: 23
                        , in general, look for - "Shura" - look .... already found, old torpedoes are passed off as the newest. on performance characteristics torpedoes, torpedoes Physicist are head and shoulders above in all respects. so alas. rub further the shabby saddle of obnosovschiny and please be glad, I am personally glad that the Obnosov "projects" will remain projects without devouring budget funds. well, today is the day of the withdrawal of Afghan troops, my older brother is an Afghan internationalist, so I drink, see you the day after tomorrow ...
                      4. 0
                        15 February 2020 15: 33
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        "Shura" - look .... already found,

                        Well done, sit down - four.
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        me is an older brother an internationalist afghanistan so i thump

                        Me too, but you can’t drink and I walk in the park with my grandson.
        2. 0
          14 February 2020 15: 41
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          And with B. Obnosov, too? ...... and it would be better for Obnosov to voice what his latest product is and how effective it is than the previous one, because if Cherkasy suits a statement like the most recent and promising. then I am not, therefore, and banter

          Have you tried to learn how to read the site rules and quote the words of your opponent according to the "quote" rules - there are such
          quotes
          to use
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 18: 52
            according to the rules of "quotes" - there are such ....... it is not necessary, it is more convenient for me, the rules of the site do not prohibit this, let's better on the merits of the topic
    3. 0
      14 February 2020 12: 43
      With "Borka Obnosov" on a friendly footing? And in essence. The fact that the rocket has completed the tests is good. It's good that she gave out the given characteristics and that's stopped for now. As you know, there is no limit to perfection, so you need to stop in time. And the fact that the torpedo has a development perspective is great. Remember the SU-27. Who he was and who he became.
      1. +1
        14 February 2020 13: 27
        The fact that the rocket has completed the tests is good. .... vooschet in the post Obnosov's words about the torpedo, and there is complete lack of clarity about the performance characteristics and other combat advantages, or again the Soviet rake .... a terrible secret, but that's bad luck. our sworn partner knows much deeper than we are shoved by the "newest" "promising" (it is good that there is no analogue in the world), WHERE THE BATTLE CHARACTERISTICS of this product is, I'm personally interested. or for this you have to go to the Jens yearbook to buy?
        1. 0
          14 February 2020 21: 17
          Maybe you should attach "Instructions for the use of weapons" together with the article? Well, so that you do not turn to the "sworn partner" for information?
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 21: 23
            Maybe you should attach "Instructions for the use of weapons" along with the article? ..... and why not, why spend money on a foreign publication, and what is not cheap, it would not be easier to declare in the first person to the taxpayer (so to speak, the breadwinner) what an innovation for a torpedo. than it is better in combat capabilities than previous ones. and so on. in any case, Western sworn partners are doing just that. and it doesn't matter whether the product is good or not, with Oblomov everything is ornate. that is, it is alarming that finances are not going where they should go
            1. -1
              14 February 2020 21: 42
              And indeed, why not. This will finish off industrial espionage in one fell swoop, a bunch of scientific departments of our "sworn partners" looking for and analyzing crumbs of data on weapons from the Internet will be disbanded. And why did they give up if they read the article on VO, downloaded all the attached instructions and performance characteristics and order. Cheap and cheerful. And then, you know, they came up with a "military secret"!
              1. +1
                14 February 2020 21: 59
                I downloaded all the attached instructions and TTX and order. Cheap and cheerful ......... well, waxing a military secret is detailing the design of the product and the hardware, that is. from which there is a housing .. marking of materials of construction. BIUS algorithms, operating frequencies of AGSN or PGSN, .... ATTX is not something secret, but Oblomov did not even bother to do this. it wasn’t clean, for example, the adoption of the Physicist torpedoes in 2017 was known, and this product was also provided with technical characteristics, and moreover, they were announced by the designer of the torpedo armament of the Research Institute of Marine Heat Engineering, who was developing a new project, Alexander Grigoryev, the details were secret, and the technical characteristics on welcome ..... what is wrong with Onosov and his concern? the impression is that a bunch of Obnosov's lawyers have piled up because the sawn dengue needs to be worked out
  7. +1
    14 February 2020 11: 25
    There is technical data on the stand, but they are not in the article, there is nothing for the article.
    1. -1
      14 February 2020 15: 07
      TTX of what? The product is not named.
      1. +1
        14 February 2020 15: 56
        "the newest promising torpedo and corrected aerial bomb of 250 kilogram caliber."
  8. +1
    14 February 2020 11: 45
    Let me ask you very modestly, but what's new and promising? Maybe a better mover or explosive with a higher energy density. Al what else? Well, yes, a secret. Well, okay.
  9. -1
    14 February 2020 11: 53
    Supercavitating rocket torpedo "Predator" ("Shkval-2") with aluminum fuel and magnetometric seeker, no? bully
  10. +3
    14 February 2020 12: 23
    It is a pity that the fault of overseas nerds have to create not what people need. But there’s nowhere to go, life makes you, so you have to be the best in this matter.
  11. +2
    14 February 2020 20: 24
    Well, there’s nothing to discuss. Since everything is classified.
    1. +1
      14 February 2020 20: 32
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Well, there’s nothing to discuss. Since everything is classified.

      Well, that’s good, surprises will be again! .. And then in the 80-90s everyone signed and handed over ..
      Even the United States gave plutonium with joy EBN .. And they are already on our borders around ..
      But we didn’t sell everything (thanks to the designers who remained alive patriots) .. and now they can be delivered to AUGs on metal bully
      1. 0
        14 February 2020 20: 42
        And I always advocated secrecy.
        There is a ton of information that is completely unnecessary in the public domain. Moreover, only a limited circle of persons should have access to them.
        1. 0
          14 February 2020 20: 50
          Quote: Petrol cutter
          And I always advocated secrecy.

          I, too, for this .. And then there are a lot of crooks spinning our chatter .. negative
          Quote: Petrol cutter
          There is a ton of information that is completely unnecessary in the public domain. Moreover, only a limited circle of persons should have access to them.

          I agree and not casualties IN is so popular with some of the small and cunning country ..))) wink
  12. 0
    15 February 2020 12: 17
    In fact, the mention of the bonbon is even more important than the torpedo. But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation stubbornly does not want to have in its arsenal of small things with a caliber of 100-125 kg like SDB
  13. 0
    15 February 2020 20: 40
    torpedo - handsome, rocket bomb - well done! even in the old film - the classic "Listen in the compartments" sounded "rocket-bomb installations tovs"