Land cannot be given away: Putin supported Mashkov to preserve the territory of Russia


Actor and director Vladimir Mashkov invited Russian President Vladimir Putin to amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation, which would protect the inviolability of Russian borders. The head of state agreed with Mashkov’s proposal.


The idea to constitutionally consolidate the integrity and indivisibility of Russia and the inviolability of its existing borders was voiced by Vladimir Mashkov at a meeting of the working group to prepare proposals for amending the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

In the foreign press, especially near the border territories, the words of some foreign political scientists slip that while Putin is president, we can’t do anything, but after the presidency moves to another person, a “window of opportunity” opens up, opportunities to pick up , say, the Kuril Islands, someone claims the territory of Crimea, someone even looks closely at Kaliningrad. It seems to me that it would be nice to fix in the constitution a ban on the alienation of Russian territories. Giving - you can’t even negotiate on this subject. Reinforced concrete

- said Vladimir Mashkov.

The President noted that he liked the idea and that it should be submitted to lawyers so that they would formulate more correctly. But at the same time, the head of state did not forget that Russia is currently negotiating with some “partners” on the issue of territories. Obviously, the head of state still had in mind the South Kuril Islands.

Since Putin generally agreed with Mashkov’s proposal, it could very well be introduced as an amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation. There are no questions to its relevance. And the main point, of course, is concern about the fate of the Crimean peninsula. Therefore, many politicians and public figures immediately remembered the Crimea, although the inviolability of the Kuril Islands or Kaliningrad is no less important.

There is still hope in the West that if Putin resigns and more liberal, pro-Western forces come to power, Russia will return Crimea to Ukraine. Unfortunately, in our country there are also such political forces that support this position. From their point of view, the return of the Crimea is a guarantee of the restoration of "normal" relations with the West. And these forces, who believe that Crimea needs to be surrendered, are very influential, and we are talking not only about cultural figures like Andrei Makarevich, but also about some entrepreneurs and high-ranking officials. What is the fact that there is still no absence on the peninsula, six years after reunification with Russia, of branches of the country's leading banks.

The liberal public, by the way, has already responded to Mashkov’s suggestion with cursing him and the usual accusations of occupying the Crimea. It is enough to read the comments on the websites of liberal media and in groups on social networks. For example, a user of Echo of Moscow wrote:

Licked, so licked! You can sell, conquer and exchange. Only you can’t give.

In fact, introducing into the Constitution a clause on the constitutional prohibition of alienation of a country's territory can, in the opinion of many politicians and experts, become the most important regulatory barrier to the exclusion of disputed territories. This paragraph can be introduced into the basic law of the country precisely so that in the future, after Vladimir Putin resigns from the post of head of state, the new president could not give up any territories to other states without changing the Constitution.

It is worth noting separately that if pro-Western forces are in power again, as in the 1990s, then it will not cost them anything to change the Constitution for themselves.

It’s enough to recall how Boris Yeltsin shot in front of the whole world from tanks The Supreme Council of Russia and adopted a new fundamental law.

The West, loving hysterical statements about human rights violations at opposition rallies, then turned a blind eye to the war crime of the Russian authorities. He will close it again if it is beneficial to him. Therefore, despite the importance of the proposed amendment to the Constitution, it is not worth considering it as a XNUMX% guarantee against attempts to revise the country's borders.
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  1. Vend 14 February 2020 11: 23 New
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    It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.
    1. Barmaleyka 14 February 2020 11: 26 New
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      Quote: Wend
      It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.

      preferably within the borders of the USSR
      1. Sergei 777 14 February 2020 11: 33 New
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        Quote: Barmaleyka
        Quote: Wend
        It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.

        preferably within the borders of the USSR

        Let us first do the order within the borders of the RSFSR. And then we will think about expanding the borders.
        1. Barmaleyka 14 February 2020 11: 54 New
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          then you need to take for the axiom that you can forget about the restoration of lost territories
          1. Vend 14 February 2020 12: 01 New
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            Quote: Barmaleyka
            then you need to take for the axiom that you can forget about the restoration of lost territories

            Look a few steps forward. If there is a law on indivisibility, then in subsequent years, the former republics may be part of the country. But it will not be possible to get out if special conditions are not agreed.
            1. Kapellan23 14 February 2020 13: 37 New
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              No state has seriously considered the question of separating part of its territory and will never do it.
              1. Barmaleyka 14 February 2020 13: 51 New
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                Quote: Kapellan23
                No state has seriously considered the question of separating part of its territory and will never do it.

                Well, how can I tell you, you can give an example of a quote from our liberals
            2. Barmaleyka 14 February 2020 13: 50 New
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              Quote: Wend
              former republics may be part of the country

              which ones and which of the leaders of the republics WILL VOLUNTELY REFUSE FROM AUTHORITY, a cunning Belarusian as an example to you, about the rest there’s even no sense in talking
              1. Vend 14 February 2020 14: 08 New
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                Quote: Barmaleyka
                Quote: Wend
                former republics may be part of the country

                which ones and which of the leaders of the republics WILL VOLUNTELY REFUSE FROM AUTHORITY, a cunning Belarusian as an example to you, about the rest there’s even no sense in talking

                This is life, there are different things. For example, the remains of Ukraine.
            3. tech3030 14 February 2020 16: 33 New
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              They already entered, do not need it!
            4. Karaul73 15 February 2020 00: 10 New
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              Yes who will enter that? Belarus is already knocking on the shtatovtsy. Everyone is afraid. Under socialism there was no fear.
        2. evgen1221 14 February 2020 14: 21 New
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          And what's the point in expanding the borders of the Russian Federation then? We already have land in bulk, the Japanese generally live on the heels of the mountains and the population is like ours, and nothing thrives and is not particularly soft. But in connection with the new amendments, our guides can once again tighten the screws on the people. For example, through their actions, the truth and their punishment was quite a chance and through the ECHR to find and govern, but for a long, expensive and dreary but possible. And in the future it will be covered. And I absolutely do not believe that our officials without polls will become fluffy paunchies to please the population for the benefit of the population, I generally will not believe, because the ideology of the cap is universal, live now and after us no one will change the flood without a close-knit and tough repressive machine, while impartial and vertical elevators from bottom to top. Well, even at school, history teachers said that in the absence of the ability to rob external sources of power, they rob their own, which leads to revolutions. The parallels with Russia are obvious. Nothing much will change, the authorities will want to protect their investments in all sorts of Syria and Vietnam, but not their own population. Well, why would a simple person change nothing with a whip, change it with whips.
          1. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 03 New
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            Well, let’s say so on heels they only live in Tokyo, because, all the same, 31 million people, and so please everywhere freely in principle.
            1. evgen1221 14 February 2020 19: 26 New
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              Extreme limitation in the territory (islands), 50% of the mountains are unsuitable for agricultural use, and you think that they do not live on the heels, and at the same time, the population as we have adapted after all, and it’s quite comfortable to equip. Our territory, if we count from Kievan Rus, basically grew from the fact that the population fled from the tyrants of princes and kings to free lands, so historically it didn’t take root seriously and for a long time to equip the land that is, you could always go to the fields of the forest for a better share, that in fairy tales bylinas, folklore got eaten up in our minietalet, do not care what is, let's expand. But what the hell is this? We already and 100km from the regional centers are quiet and smooth, in the sense of zero people. And there will still be roofing.
        3. Letnab 16 February 2020 13: 50 New
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          Quote: Sergey 777
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          Quote: Wend
          It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.

          preferably within the borders of the USSR

          Let us first do the order within the borders of the RSFSR. And then we will think about expanding the borders.

          again put on the neck of the Union republics, I think enough of them. Enough binding economic relations, and control of political life in them.
          1. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 03 New
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            Quote: Letnab
            again put on the neck of the Union republics, I think enough of them.

            Is it because of such not-so-smart statements that everyone begins, who exactly was sitting on your neck?
      2. bk316 14 February 2020 11: 56 New
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        preferably within the borders of the USSR

        Do you collect the pros? What is not within the boundaries of the galaxy? Why write in the Constitution what is not true? The word PIN is clear? You can’t fix something that you don’t have ...
        1. mikh-korsakov 14 February 2020 12: 29 New
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          Something else would have been brought from D. Urakov laughing
          1. bk316 14 February 2020 13: 09 New
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            Something else would have been brought from D. Urakov

            Here, no constitution will help. laughing
          2. novobranets 14 February 2020 14: 03 New
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            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Something else would have been brought from D. Urakov

            Russia has two problems, fools and roads. And if one of them can be dealt with using a bulldozer, concrete and a heavy skating rink, then what to do with the roads is unclear.
            request
          3. Overlock 15 February 2020 00: 26 New
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            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Something else would have been brought from D. Urakov

            it is our property
        2. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 04 New
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          Quote: bk316

          Do you collect the pros?

          Enemy made laughing
          Now "minus" any post on any branch is provided laughing
          1. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 06 New
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            you grab minuses not for the fact that the enemy, but for the fact that write nonsense
        3. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 08 New
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          The Sumerians in the constitution, the entry of the EU and NATO was enshrined in the constitution and nothing, people shawal laughing
          It was still not enough for us to get such a fool
        4. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 05 New
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          just unlike you, I felt this collapse in the skin, and I know firsthand what CVM is
      3. Kapellan23 14 February 2020 13: 34 New
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        Preferably within the borders of Russia in 1914 + additions from the Sykes-Pico agreement and the Postdam agreements.
        1. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 15: 51 New
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          Quote: Kapellan23
          + additions from the Sykes contract - Pico and the Postdam agreements.

          Well, it’s through the EU that you have to go for the Basfor and the Dardanelles bully
        2. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 06 New
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          Why, at least you are interested in how many people in general have their own country to do with their own eyes, and not just on the world map.
        3. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 06 New
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          Preferably within the borders of Russia 1914

          it’s not advisable, Poland still has that hemorrhage, but the absence of the Kuril ridge and half of Sakhalin ...
          1. Kapellan23 21 February 2020 11: 30 New
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            The 100th anniversary of separation and indigenization does not pass without a trace and immediately. With Poland there will be no more “hemorrhagic” than with the rest of the “soc. nat. republics ”...
            1. Barmaleyka 21 February 2020 12: 06 New
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              With Poland there will be no more “crap”

              much larger, not a single former republic with rare exceptions had its own statehood, and those who had in fact were state states with minimal ambitions, Poland could really become the second Slavic imperial center if not for the show-offs and the ability to obey the Polish gentry and these show-offs where did not go
              1. Kapellan23 21 February 2020 14: 09 New
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                Could, but by 1917 the Kingdom of Poland was well integrated. You can return first in the form of a similar subject, and not the province ...
                1. Barmaleyka 21 February 2020 14: 35 New
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                  Kingdom of Poland was well integrated

                  nothing like that, all the integration was in words, the gentry both hated the Russians and continued to hate fiercely, the following events as an example to you, by the way, regarding the RI, the Poles in the WWII behaved no better than during the Patriotic War of 1812
                  1. Kapellan23 21 February 2020 17: 30 New
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                    Poland was gradually Russified and converted to Orthodoxy. Normally, they behaved in the WWI. Partisanism against the Germans and Austrians.
                    1. Barmaleyka 21 February 2020 17: 56 New
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                      Quote: Kapellan23
                      Poland was gradually Russified and converted to Orthodoxy.

                      where did you read that? !!!!! belay fool
                      Quote: Kapellan23
                      Normally, they behaved in the WWI.

                      Well, at least study the history, they even fought on the side of the Germans, even if only 30 thousand.
                      1. Kapellan23 21 February 2020 18: 00 New
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                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        where did you read that

                        Check out at least the wiki.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%88%D0%B8

                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        Well, at least study the history, they even fought on the side of the Germans, even if only 30 thousand.

                        Only those parts that were formed on the territory of Germany and Austria.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8_%D0%B2_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8_(1914%E2%80%941920)
                      2. Barmaleyka 21 February 2020 20: 39 New
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                        link to wiki is cool, especially when they write wandered about the Orthodox Christianization of Poland
                        if you draw all the knowledge from this garbage, the argument is over
    2. iouris 14 February 2020 13: 54 New
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      Quote: Barmaleyka
      preferably within the borders of the USSR

      And the chief said that there are no borders.
    3. Terenin 14 February 2020 14: 57 New
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      Quote: Barmaleyka
      Quote: Wend
      It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.

      preferably within the borders of the USSR

      Well then write ... in the historical borders of Russia

      By the way, the card is foreign

    4. Cyrus 19 February 2020 07: 24 New
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      Why feed the parasites?
      1. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 07 New
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        and who are the parasites?
  2. Skay 14 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    Quote: Wend
    It is high time to fix the borders in the Constitution.

    And how will we grow territories?
    1. Alexander Suvorov 14 February 2020 11: 35 New
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      Skay (Sergey)
      And how will we grow territories?
      We should master what we have in mind! In the meantime, we only know how to squander. The Karelian forest in Finland, China has already privatized Taigu along with Lake Baikal, it seems that they want to explore the Kuril Islands “jointly” with the Japanese, there’s nothing to say about the Far East, so far Siberia has not been completely squandered ...
      And you're talking about some kind of growth there.
      No, of course I am for growing, but the question is, to whom is this growth beneficial? If it were the USSR, then I would definitely say that to the state, but in the current conditions, this will be the next feeding trough for a handful of officials and their children, and not an increase in territories.
      1. Skay 14 February 2020 11: 53 New
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        We should master what we have in mind!

        This is clear. And what, for example, will we do with the Russian-American border in the Bering Sea? Here the Americans will rejoice if we constitutionally consolidate their past ugliness.
      2. kjhg 14 February 2020 12: 23 New
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        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        In the meantime, we only know how to squander. Karelian forest in Finland

        I recently learned that Finland ranks first in the world in paper production.
        1. tech3030 14 February 2020 16: 41 New
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          Russia even bought paper from the Finns before the revolution, one of the Nokia companies.
      3. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 11 New
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        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        Karelian forest in Finland,

        Sorry, but the forest is the same product as everything else. Do you offer us not to sell anything?
        Oil, gas, weapons, etc., etc. keep exclusively at home?
        Yes, a lot of what we sell and buy.
        Ban on trade?
        1. Varyag_0711 14 February 2020 13: 37 New
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          Lipchanin (Sergey)
          Sorry, but the forest is the same product as everything else. Do you offer us not to sell anything?
          Well, yes, wood is a product - let's sell Taiga, water is also a product - let's sell Baikal, if you say so, children are also a product - you don’t want to sell yours to the authorities?
          Forest can be a commodity only if it is cut down in accordance with quotas, and full restoration of forest resources at the place of logging is ensured. In addition, it is necessary to sell not the forest, but the objects of its processing. Otherwise, it’s just squandering resources and stuffing pockets, not trading.
          Do not confuse warm with soft!
          1. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 14: 22 New
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            Quote: Varyag_0711
            Well, yes, wood is a product - let's sell Taiga, water is also a product - let's sell Baikal, if you say so, children are also a product - you don’t want to sell yours to the authorities?

            Can’t we juggle? No need to look worse yourself
            Forest may be a commodity

            So all the same, the goods?
            if felled in accordance with quotas, and full restoration of forest resources at the felling site is ensured.

            And here it is to introduce the Constitution into law
            In addition, it is necessary to sell not timber, but objects of its processing.

            There has been talk about this for a long time. But things are still there request
            Otherwise, it’s just squandering resources and stuffing pockets, not trading.

            I don’t see logic.
            So it’s just that the forest is stuffing your pockets, and the objects of processing are not stuffing?
            Other money in other pockets? laughing
            Do not confuse warm with soft!

            That's it.
            So the difference between the trade in timber and the trade in oil, gas and weapons, I never saw.
            Remind me of my post?
            Sorry, but the forest is the same product as everything else. Do you offer us not to sell anything?
            Oil, gas, weapons, etc., etc. keep exclusively at home
        2. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 08 New
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          Quote: Lipchanin
          Sorry, but the forest is the same product as everything else.

          the truth is much cheaper than the same furniture made from this forest
      4. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 15: 56 New
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        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        If it were the USSR, then I would definitely say that to the state, but in the current conditions, it will be another feeding trough for a handful of officials and their children, and not an increase in territories.

        Well so the state is privatized, what do you want? bully
      5. tech3030 14 February 2020 16: 38 New
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        You stepped right on a sore spot and not to me alone! Such a rich country and so we live .... Raw materials for sale and where technology? They certainly are, but in what quantities!
      6. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 08 New
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        But the whole Volga is empty, all in Moscow to earn money ....
    2. polar fox 14 February 2020 13: 49 New
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      Quote: Skay
      And how will we grow territories?

      second citizenship and immobility with a family abroad)))) the only way the Labor Code of the Russian Federation can “grow” in territories.
    3. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 15: 53 New
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      Quote: Skay
      And how will we grow territories?

      what a strange question! you do not know how capitalist countries grow territory ??? belay
  3. figwam 14 February 2020 11: 28 New
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    Putin supported Mashkov to preserve the territory of Russia
    And then the second Khrushchev will come and will distribute lands with Russian people.
    1. Sotskiy 14 February 2020 11: 54 New
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      Quote: figvam
      And then the second Khrushchev will come and will distribute lands with Russian people

      Well, yes, yes ...
      Damansky to China, a piece of 80 thousand km of its sea territory of Norway, is now "negotiated" on the Kuril Islands. Maybe negotiations will start about Moscow right away? Poles on it also once had a claim to us. It is impossible to build mutually beneficial market relations between partners with "disputed" territories, they will not give investments. lol
      And yes, we have everything for "integrity." By the way, what is there about this in the Yeltsin Constitution? There was no integrity of borders there?
      1. bessmertniy 14 February 2020 12: 31 New
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        The integrity of borders today needs to be restored, and not our losses fixed in the Constitution. hi
        1. Sotskiy 14 February 2020 12: 41 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          The integrity of borders today needs to be restored, and not our losses fixed in the Constitution. hi

          Who argues. Only how, even if they could not unite with Belarus, because in the "market" relations someone who is sure to be "devoured".
          1. brat07 15 February 2020 03: 53 New
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            Quote: Sovetskiy
            Quote: bessmertniy
            The integrity of borders today needs to be restored, and not our losses fixed in the Constitution. hi

            Who argues. Only how, even if they could not unite with Belarus, because in the "market" relations someone who is sure to be "devoured".

            And how do you want?
            "The strong devours the weak."
            No matter how cynical it sounds.
            c'est la vie.
            1. Sotskiy 15 February 2020 09: 59 New
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              Quote: brat07
              And how do you want?
              "The strong devours the weak."
              No matter how cynical it sounds.
              c'est la vie.

              So why the hell then, starting with the First Person, is Lenin watered for collecting land by the unification of the country on equal terms with other conditions of the republics that are part of the same Union?
              Then tell people simply: to us your "freedom, equality and brotherhood", "one people" and other loud slogans, to the bulb. It’s just that there are not enough colonies, like partners in the “civilized” West.
              But who, on such conditions of the colony, wants to unite? Will you go to the Belarusians with war? belay
              1. brat07 15 February 2020 19: 14 New
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                watered Lenin for collecting land

                You forgot to mention
                Brest-Litovsk treaty.
                In this treaty, there is no mention of “collection of land”.
                But about the "collection of lands" we must bow to I. V. Stalin.
        2. Krasnoyarsk 14 February 2020 15: 43 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          The integrity of borders today needs to be restored, and not our losses fixed in the Constitution. hi

          It is not about alienation, but not about accession. You can attach. good
        3. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 12 New
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          First, the State Bank of the country needs to be fixed in the constitution ... And not so that the candy wrapper would print.
    2. Barmaleyka 19 February 2020 08: 29 New
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      Quote: figvam
      And then the second Khrushchev will come and will distribute lands with Russian people.

      Khrushchev compared to drunk innocent baby
  4. iouris 14 February 2020 13: 58 New
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    By changing the constitution, you can change and consolidate everything: iii, once ...
  5. Krasnoyarsk 14 February 2020 15: 40 New
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    Quote: Wend
    It seems to me that it would be nice to fix in the constitution a ban on the alienation of Russian territories. Giving - you can’t even negotiate on this subject. Reinforced Concrete

    First, it is necessary to introduce into the constitution such a concept as - Russia. Everywhere it’s indicated - the Russian Federation. Even when trying to propose the concept of the RUSSIAN PEOPLE to be fixed in the constitution, it caused a wild flurry of displeasure among non-Russians.
    1. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 14 New
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      Well, there are 225 languages ​​in the country, it would be nice to learn, at least a little, right?
  • Alexander Suvorov 14 February 2020 11: 27 New
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    It is worth noting separately that if pro-Western forces are in power again, as in the 1990s, then it will not cost them anything to change the Constitution for themselves.
    This is the key phrase. And the guarantor answered Mashkov so vaguely that vague doubts involuntarily begin to creep in. Especially about the Kuril Islands.
    1. paul3390 14 February 2020 11: 31 New
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      Yes, about almost all of his undertakings over the past 5 years, vague doubts begin to creep in ..
    2. Romey 14 February 2020 11: 32 New
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      Oh, and that now we have no pro-Western forces in power? Well, they will confirm that something is in the constitution, and when they need someone to sell something they will call it rent, concession, ASEZ finally ... And in general, who owns our oil and gas now? The question is rather rhetorical ...
      1. Fan-fan 14 February 2020 11: 56 New
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        Empty "noise" about the constitution. People do not get fooled by this noodle. Those in power have always found a way to circumvent the constitution or change it for themselves in an instant. There are plenty of examples of this, even with the current ruler.
    3. Igor Polovodov 14 February 2020 11: 56 New
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      I want to believe that a similar remark by VV is intended to the west ...
      well, so that they do not strain ... well, you understand
      1. Alexander Suvorov 14 February 2020 12: 02 New
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        Igor Polovodov (Igor)
        I want to believe that a similar remark by VV is intended to the west ...
        well, so that they do not strain ... well, you understand
        I always want to believe in the best, but only after the pension reform and other tricks, faith in the guarantor, personally I have greatly reduced!
        1. Igor Polovodov 14 February 2020 21: 41 New
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          Similarly, alas ...
    4. Chervonny 14 February 2020 12: 34 New
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      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
      Especially about the Kuril Islands.

      Our Kuril Islands. It is clear that if they want to give the southern Kuril Islands to the Japanese, they will not ask the people, but they will act just like with the pension reform.
      And here, make no contributions to the constitution, the preservation of the territorial integrity of the state will not be of any use if it occurs to someone to give away part of the territory to another state.
    5. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 16: 02 New
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      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
      This is the key phrase.

      I'm sorry, but if pro-Russian forces come to power, will they not change the constitution? we have it as if written in 90 wink
  • Whalebone 14 February 2020 11: 34 New
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    It seems to me more about the Sun and the Moon that chapters should be introduced into the Constitution. Not all clowns have performed yet? Tens of thousands of hectares of Russian taiga, cut down by the Chinese, also really want "inviolability of borders", but do they ask them? It would be nice to leave oil / gas to descendants, but their grandchildren in England and Switzerland will be more important. The coffin has pockets unnecessarily, but the habit is second nature.
  • Crystal of Truth 14 February 2020 11: 35 New
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    Populists .. Here and the whole tale
  • Seld 14 February 2020 11: 41 New
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    "It is worth noting separately that if pro-Western forces are in power again, as in the 1990s, then it will not cost them anything to change the Constitution for themselves."- and very easy.
    In general, I would like to see at least professionals involved in the Constitution and professionally at the same time. Personal opinion: the Constitution as a fundamental law cannot include "private laws, lawyers and by-laws"; cannot serve as a blocking "umbrella" and a barrier to the introduction of OPERATIONAL amendments to the general law of any state, depending on changes in the world, and this is what the parliament (in any case) should do, by the way.
    I am not writing specifically for proposals from actors, directors, etc. "specialized lawyers", God forbid, and holy is holy ... But it seems to me that these, similar and any other proposals can and should be included in the general legislation.
    The Constitution, in fact, defines the general legal principle of the existence of the state. General, fundamental. Type: "to kill is a sin, to drink is harmful, to steal is ugly, to smoke is dangerous, all people are brothers" ...
    By the way, what will we do if tomorrow, in exchange for the Kuril Islands, the Russian Federation will conditionally offer “Hokaido Island with Kyushu Island” in addition? All? carcass light? Since the constitution says "nizzzzzzya", then - "cast iron"? Or again hold a referendum? By the way, if the working day is turned into a day off - ONLY "FOR"!
  • Qwertyarion 14 February 2020 11: 43 New
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    . This paragraph can be introduced into the basic law of the country precisely so that in the future, after Vladimir Putin resigns from the post of head of state, the new president could not give up any territories to other states without changing the Constitution.

    Can territories be distributed now?
    1. bk316 14 February 2020 11: 57 New
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      Can territories be distributed now?

      Strictly speaking, nothing interferes ...
  • rudolff 14 February 2020 11: 44 New
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    "But at the same time, the head of state did not forget that Russia is currently negotiating with some" partners "on the issue of territories. Obviously, the head of state still had in mind the South Kuril Islands."
    Well, how do you understand this? Russia does not give up land, but a little bit possible?
    1. New Year day 14 February 2020 11: 53 New
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      Quote: rudolff
      Russia does not give up land, but a little bit possible?

      first time or something!
    2. Gardamir 14 February 2020 11: 56 New
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      If you can’t, but really want to, then you can
  • AlexVas44 14 February 2020 11: 44 New
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    It seems that the cons today are completely off topic.
  • Nitarius 14 February 2020 11: 47 New
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    you can increase but decrease NO .. I agree with that!
  • 7,62h54 14 February 2020 11: 47 New
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    Yeltsin shot, and the Dear Leader, if not what will shoot? And how. The throne itself does not come down.
  • New Year day 14 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    ... in the event that Putin leaves the presidency and more liberal, pro-Western forces come to power ...

    That made a journalist laugh!
    2005: China was given 337 km² of territory belonging to the country, namely the Bolshoi and Tarabarov islands and, in addition, half of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky island.
    2010: Russia transfers to Norway half of the water area of ​​about 175 thousand square kilometers, which it previously considered to be its own. Moreover, no one with her, in general, did not argue.
    2011: villages of Khrakh-Uba and Uryan-Uba were presented to Azerbaijan together with the population
    2017: Russia gave Lake Sladkoe to Kazakhstan
  • tihonmarine 14 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    It seems to me that it would be nice to fix in the constitution a ban on the alienation of Russian territories. Giving - you can’t even negotiate on this subject. Reinforced Concrete
    These words should have been given given by our rulers and the State Duma. It turned out that the most Russian person is Vladimir Mashkov.
    1. bk316 14 February 2020 11: 59 New
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      It turned out that the most Russian person is Vladimir Mashkov.

      It turned out. And we ourselves elected such deputies. The same Communist Party even had a majority in some period.
      In general, to make a proposal and the majority is not necessary ....
      1. polar fox 14 February 2020 13: 53 New
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        And we ourselves elected such deputies.

        that they chose safina, and valuev, and horkin? who and when? how? Voronenkova too?
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          how?

          By voting for EP ... You do not understand the structure of the Russian state?
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          Yeah, and a salary of 700 thousand for them, and pensions in the middle lane of 5 thousand, and a salary of professional doctors of 6 thousand ..... We also all appointed the same.
  • Alexga 14 February 2020 12: 00 New
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    Of course, I am very sorry, BUT it does not seem to you that consolidating the inviolability of borders will create a situation that no one else will be able to join the Russian Federation, for example, Donbass, Transnistria, Belarus in the end. But these are the provisions of the Constitution and its concepts should be understood only unambiguously, without any “should be assumed”.
    1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 12: 12 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      BUT you do not think that consolidating the inviolability of borders will create a situation that no one else will be able to enter the Russian Federation, for example, Donbass, Transnistria, Belarus in the end.

      Joining Russia voluntarily is quite different than the inviolability of borders. Inviolability is something that we will not give up for all subsequent generations. Voluntary entry, always welcome.
      1. Alexga 14 February 2020 12: 51 New
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        This is what I’m talking about.
        The academic meaning of the word: immutability-
        unwavering, unwavering, invincible, indestructible; fortress, holiness, immobility, inviolability, intransigence, continuity, immutability, indissolubility, strength, strength, reliability, constancy, stability, constancy, immutability.
        Any other interpretation belongs to the category "should be assumed." A constitutional propaganda poster is two different things. There is no place for a declaration. Because then the Constitutional Court will need to clarify the meaning of the word. I’m not a bore, I just have experience communicating with an office called the Ministry of Justice, there the people are simple, they correspond - YES, they don’t correspond - NO.
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          Because then the Constitutional Court will need to clarify the meaning of the word.

          What for? You can’t write something that you can’t reduce the area of ​​the state, but you can increase it (annexation of different territories by this or that) and no constitutional court is needed. Words need to pick up others. “Firmness” in this sense is not the best word.
          1. Alexga 14 February 2020 13: 26 New
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            Therefore, I say that the terms should be understood unambiguously.
        2. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 13: 40 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          I’m not a bore, I just have experience in dealing with an office called the Ministry of Justice, there the people are simple, they correspond - YES, they do not correspond - NO.

          That's right, lawyers must decide this kazistika so that everything is clearly spelled out.
    2. Chervonny 14 February 2020 12: 40 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      BUT you do not think that consolidating the inviolability of borders will create a situation that no one else will be able to join the Russian Federation, for example, Donbass, Transnistria, Belarus in the end

      The constitution of the USSR contained a clause according to which other countries could join it on a voluntary basis. Such a paragraph should be included in the current constitution.
      1. Alexga 14 February 2020 12: 54 New
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        You are absolutely right! This should be specifically written.
  • knn54 14 February 2020 12: 05 New
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    Every self-respecting user of "Ear of Matzah" just wants to sell something.
    Regarding the vague response of the guarantor. I suppose. That he is not going to leave us.
    And Mashkov RIGHTS. "Tsar" Yeltsin "gave enough", taking advantage of the absence of the Law on the inviolability of borders.
    1. Crystal of Truth 14 February 2020 12: 13 New
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      This is for example what Yeltsin gave?
      1. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 25 New
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        Everything, since it was led by the RSFSR, and made a lot of efforts to destroy the country within the framework of the union.
  • Professor Preobrazhensky 14 February 2020 12: 16 New
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    Let's better fix in the constitution that it is impossible to steal, receive bribes, take kickbacks, combine service and enrichment ...
    1. Crystal of Truth 14 February 2020 12: 22 New
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      With this power, in vain to strengthen something in the constitution. Next year, VVP will again say that it is necessary to rewrite and everyone will happily take it under the hood ..
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      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      You cannot steal, receive bribes, take kickbacks, combine service

      They attacked the holy! How can our government live without this? laughing
      1. fk7777777 14 February 2020 19: 27 New
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        Yes, it’s not power ... it’s time to understand ..
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  • Xenofont 14 February 2020 12: 21 New
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    Mashkov, young man! One of the few in the "creative-Creakle" party who does not spit in his country.
  • prior 14 February 2020 12: 23 New
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    "It is impossible to give land: Putin supported ..."

    But it is possible to sell "national property" - timber, oil, gas, so that grandchildren and great-grandchildren do not get it.
    I demand to be included in the Constitution.
    1. New Year day 14 February 2020 15: 45 New
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      Quote: prior
      "It is impossible to give land: Putin supported ..."


      ... but first - he gave
      1. bk316 14 February 2020 15: 52 New
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        .. but first - gave

        And now I decided "enough", or you still have to give up against?
        1. New Year day 14 February 2020 15: 53 New
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          And now I decided "enough", or you still have to give up against?

          They didn’t ask me then, they won’t ask me and then
  • Lamata 14 February 2020 12: 24 New
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    Normal correction. Vital.
  • Ros 56 14 February 2020 12: 25 New
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    And were there really those who were against?
  • cradle 14 February 2020 12: 29 New
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    About "licked" - it is envy that they themselves didn’t think of licking it ... laughing cardboard drills
  • savment 14 February 2020 13: 02 New
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    Here they write about the return of the remaining republics of the former USSR. And why do we need Central Asia. Who will support them, what is the budget? And impoverished Ukraine with western regions. We would have to deal with our territories. And yes, I approve this amendment.
  • Kapellan23 14 February 2020 13: 32 New
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    103 years dismembered Russia and then decided to change their minds?
  • JonnyT 14 February 2020 13: 48 New
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    Before changing the constitution, it is necessary to ensure that laws are enforced.
    Do not forget about the different interpretation of laws and the definition of basic concepts
  • iouris 14 February 2020 13: 52 New
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    Then another suggestion: the economy should be economical.
  • odometer 14 February 2020 14: 02 New
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    "Eh, Mother Raseya ..." The Russian soul ... We are discussing amendments (popularly) to the Constitution, yeah ... Are there still those who believe in this farce? As they write, it will be so ... They were communists, they became capitalists. In which case, repainted back to the Communists. Well, or in reptilians. How the card will fall yes
    1. cniza 14 February 2020 14: 41 New
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      What do you offer? Do not change anything? And if you change how?
      1. odometer 14 February 2020 15: 51 New
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        I do not offer anything. Just stating. It's time to understand on what "rails" Russia, and indeed the rest of the world. wink
        1. cniza 14 February 2020 16: 07 New
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          In my opinion, you criticize ... it turns out that no one knows what and how to do ...
          1. odometer 14 February 2020 16: 22 New
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            No, I do not criticize. I clearly see the realities of today's world order, but over time, hundreds of thousands of intellectuals around the world will realize that there is no other way but socialism.
  • Lexus 14 February 2020 14: 03 New
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    "Supported." A word that is non-binding. What is the true meaning? Pants "supported" to not fall or drink together? And when before this land and water area was distributed, "did not support"? am
  • Ural resident 14 February 2020 14: 38 New
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    I was surprised by the president’s response to a very specific proposal. Very evasive, "we are negotiating with some partners, but I like the idea." That is, not a clear “yes”? ... Somehow I didn’t calm him down at all, on the contrary, the alarm creeps in. If it is impossible to alienate it is impossible. What else can be discussed here. Apparently, after all, part of the Kuril Islands is a subject of bargaining, otherwise, how is this to be understood?
  • cniza 14 February 2020 14: 39 New
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    The President noted that he liked the idea and that it should be submitted to lawyers so that they would formulate more correctly.


    Only faster and do not delay it.
  • Roman070280 14 February 2020 14: 42 New
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    Mashkov supported Putin .. Putin supported Mashkov .. (c) Ivan Andreevich Krylov

    Separately, it is worth noting that if the authorities again, as in the 1990s, find themselves pro-Western forces, then it will not cost them anything to change the Constitution for themselves.
    Suffice it to recall how Boris Yeltsin

    And why at once - pro-Western .. And if provostny ?? Or, pro-Australian ..
    And now, in general, whose forces are in power ??
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      And now, in general, whose forces are in power ??


      We would like to understand whose they
  • Dizel200 14 February 2020 15: 29 New
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    Quite a reasonable and useful proposal Mashkov. Respect to him.
  • Vaddik 14 February 2020 16: 03 New
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    If someone really needs to give (sell) the territory, the constitution will be revised again. The usual thing. But with us everything is done according to the principle: "If the constitution makes it difficult to rule, change the constitution." So consolidation in the Constitution is by no means a guarantee that this will not happen.
  • Seld 14 February 2020 16: 05 New
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    Quote: A resident of the Urals
    I was surprised by the president’s response to a very specific proposal. Very evasive, "we are negotiating with some partners, but I like the idea." That is, not a clear “yes”? ... Somehow I didn’t calm him down at all, on the contrary, the alarm creeps in. If it is impossible to alienate it is impossible. What else can be discussed here. Apparently, after all, part of the Kuril Islands is a subject of bargaining, otherwise, how is this to be understood?

    And you need to understand this: you finish MGIMO and go to work in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Long and boring. And there, doing professional diplomacy and international cooperation, you can understand.
    In the meantime, it remains only to tear down on the Internet the information presented from ordinary average journalists.
  • Radikal 14 February 2020 16: 24 New
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    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    It is worth noting separately that if pro-Western forces are in power again, as in the 1990s, then it will not cost them anything to change the Constitution for themselves.
    This is the key phrase. And the guarantor answered Mashkov so vaguely that vague doubts involuntarily begin to creep in. Especially about the Kuril Islands.

    It’s not just blurry, but Mashkov’s proposal (if anyone was watching) clearly put him into a dead end, so he somehow inaudibly talked about some negotiations with some partners, eventually realized that he had to answer straightforwardly, then he said that actually he personally agrees. This is how it looked on TV. hi
  • tech3030 14 February 2020 16: 31 New
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    Every inch of our homeland is sacred with the blood of ancestors poured! All attacks on our territory as well as their transfer under some pretext should be punished!
  • Simfy 14 February 2020 16: 43 New
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    Somehow it looks bad in the photo, chtol thumps? (
    And when the "hypocrites" get into politics, it’s generally sad
  • faterdom 14 February 2020 18: 34 New
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    Mashkov in the presidency!
    He even has a distinct credo, not a mutnyak “about partners”, but a very specific topic: we will not give ours to anyone.
    As for theirs - we will look at their behavior.
  • Vladimir Mashkov 14 February 2020 21: 15 New
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    EXCELLENT offer namesake! I fully support! Although this is understandable, you need to put a fat legal point!
  • Boar38 14 February 2020 21: 31 New
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    It is necessary to introduce a paragraph on the deprivation of citizenship of the Russian Federation for anti-Russian activities and calls for violation of the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation in the constitution! Let all these patriots of foreign countries go to their homeland, enough for them to go round Russia!
  • Stils 14 February 2020 22: 23 New
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    The new government will not cost anything to return to the constitution of January 2020 model.
  • Nikolai 14 February 2020 23: 08 New
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    Mashkov proposed a case. I would supplement with the article "let everyone in, not let anyone out."
  • Valery Potapov 15 February 2020 15: 45 New
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    Natural resources, forests, land are a public property. Only rent. Nationalization of Gazprom, oil industry, Sberbanks and the central bank. Foreign creatures on the boards of strategic assets should not be.
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    Give land - no
    Mashkov found whom to advise - China taiga and islands, Norwegians half the sea crying
  • shinobi 20 February 2020 07: 55 New
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    We do not have liberals in the country. And there never has been. There is a layer covering liberals and slogans with their personal, often very vile, selfish interests. Very often in conversation with such people you realize that they don’t even understand what they are covering up for their actions. mentally unhealthy.