“Made by them”: comparison of Ukraine’s economy of 1989 with the year 2019


Speaking about the economy of Ukraine, naming astounding figures that allegedly characterize “explosive growth of GDP”, today's authorities (like all previous governments, by the way) are silent about the insurmountable gap that separates the current semi-colony of the West from one of the most industrially and scientifically developed Republics of the Soviet Union - USSR.


So, 1989.

In terms of population (the then Crimea and Donbass), the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic was equal to such major European states as, say, France. Moreover, it surpassed them in a number of indicators - both mining and processing industries, and other economic parameters. Still, the mines (mainly of Donetsk and Lugansk regions) produced 130 million tons of coal per year, stable iron ore production and highly developed metallurgical production allowed the Ukrainian SSR to hold first place in Europe in steelmaking - 56 million tons annually. Cast iron smelted 47 million tons per year. The republic was rightly proud of its mechanical engineering - more than 100 thousand tractors a year left the conveyors of its plants alone. Also - more than 150 thousand cars and 30 thousand trucks.

Only in Ukraine rotary excavators and combines for collecting corn and beets, famous throughout the USSR, were made. More than 40% of power transformers were manufactured, and equipment for metallurgical industries - blast furnace, steelmaking and steel rolling. High-precision, high-tech machine building was also lagging behind - the Ukrainian SSR aircraft plants sent 250 winged vehicles a year to the sky, Design Bureau Yuzhnoye designed and built powerful missiles for both defense and peaceful purposes. On the stocks of shipyards located in the south of the republic, not only dry cargo ships and seiners were laid, but also formidable cruisers and even aircraft carriers. The Black Sea Shipping Company, which included more than 230 vessels of various displacement and purpose, was considered the largest in the world and brought annually a profit of hundreds of millions of full Soviet rubles. His annual foreign exchange earnings by the time we described exceeded 750 million dollars.

Ukrainian agriculture was more than successful. Tens of millions of heads of cattle and pigs, hundreds of millions of heads of poultry, developed food and processing industries. Agrarians of the Ukrainian SSR provided food not only to local residents, but also to a significant part of the population of the Soviet Union. In 1989, the Ukrainian SSR gave the country more than half of sugar, a third of vegetable oil, a quarter of animal, a fifth of confectionery and beer. In a word, the Ukrainian SSR had a national economy, which it was proud of rightfully. The whole USSR was proud.

What remains of this as of last year? What is "done with them" ...

Aviation industry and shipbuilding are almost completely destroyed. Ukrainian tractors and cars? Don’t tell me ... In fact, not only mechanical engineering, the largest defense industries, but even the light and food industries were destroyed. Already by 2016 (when the Ukrainian “lack of season” was a quarter of a century) it was estimated: coal production fell almost 4 times, steel production - 2,5 times. For all other parameters, the statistics are either the same or even sadder.

Agriculture? Here it seems to be showing growth. However, one must understand the subtleties - the number of cattle, for example, fell 12 times, pigs and poultry more than doubled. On the other hand, crops of oilseeds for export (sunflower, rapeseed) and corn are growing every year (the demand in China is great now). But Ukraine has to import the most ordinary potatoes from abroad.

And this is far from the limit - the total fall in industrial production in Ukraine in 2019 amounted to 5%. At the same time, in some sectors it is much larger - 12% in metallurgy, 15% more than in light industry.

The census, which was planned for 2019-2020, most likely, in the "non-winter" nobody will conduct. Too shocking will be its results. According to official data from the State Statistics Service of Ukraine, the number of residents in the country last year was a little less than 42 million. A “wonderful” result - 10 million lost in 30 years without any wars and global natural disasters! However, according to independent experts, everything is much worse, the true number of Ukrainians today is not even 32 million - given those who, having left for work both in Europe and in Russia, are not going to return. In general, you can understand them. In fact, there’s nowhere to return ... There is no longer the former Ukraine.
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  1. Lamata 14 February 2020 12: 38 New
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    Gouge your own state to please your uncle !!! and continue to peck.
    1. Tatyana 14 February 2020 13: 08 New
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      The former Ukraine is gone.

      The fact that the former Ukraine no longer exists, the Russians understood this a long time ago - especially since the end of 2013 and the Maidan frenzy in 2014! Only zombie Ukrainians around Kiev refuse to understand this.

      Only here are the Ukrainians themselves, who are desperately arguing at VO that Ukraine has become better and more civilized than it was part of the USSR - though by nationality they are mostly non-Russian, as a rule, and continue to pray for the colonization of Ukraine by NATO / Pentagon countries, Well, as a last resort, they count on a guest worker "parachute" for themselves in Western Europe.
      No wonder there is a saying that if God didn’t give people a mind, then they will never have one!
      Therefore, the old Ukraine has long been gone.
      1. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 28 New
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        Quote: Tatiana
        Therefore, the old Ukraine has long been gone.

        And will not be. Too many don't need the old one
    2. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 14 New
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      There is no need to speak for all the people .. Most Ukrainians are normal people! And they want to live with Russia! And we don’t need borders between us .. And stupid fools, and we have a shaft in Russia! They will flood all the Yabloko’s Gaidarites .. the list goes on and on. The Caucasus also loves us as long as the Russian Federation pours in grandmothers there .. The Slavs are not particularly happy there.
      1. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 26 New
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        Quote: FORCE 38RUS
        . Most Ukrainians are normal people!

        Well, where are they?
        I see only banderlog and Natsik
        Gaydarovtsev will flood all sorts of Yabloko.

        Do they really do the “weather” with us
        How do they affect foreign and domestic policy, economy, defense and much more
        1. Shteffan 14 February 2020 17: 25 New
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          Here he is I. and there are most of them.
    3. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 23 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      Gouge your own state to please your uncle !!!

      Perhaps the cookie was delicious am
      1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 14: 04 New
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        Quote: Lipchanin
        Perhaps the cookie was delicious

        Probably in this
        1. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 14: 46 New
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          Well approximately laughing
          1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 15: 07 New
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            Quote: Lipchanin
            Well approximately

            I don’t like the neighbors minus, I probably took a lot of slices of the boar sfotkal.
            1. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 15: 51 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              Do not like the neighbors minus

              Sumerian team of minus-minors came to work laughing
              For my post at least 2 minus laughing
              Maybe more, today another one has stepped on its tail laughing
              1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 15: 58 New
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                Quote: Lipchanin
                Sumerian team of minus-minors came to work
                For my post at least 2 minus
                Maybe more, today another one has stepped on its tail

                It’s customary to hear, they also ninned me. So the tails hurt the Sumerians.
                1. siemens7774 14 February 2020 22: 15 New
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                  tihonmarine, I correct you and the others as I can)) as George Karlin said, do not dare to underestimate the possibilities of stupid people gathered in large groups.
        2. Free wind 14 February 2020 17: 20 New
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          Yummy !!!!!!! But with a slice of bread, yes with bitterness, and with a shot of moonshine, and next to a plate, and with breasts salted, and with dill, and with sour cream and lemon, sprinkled with you, on Friday. drinks
          1. monster 14 February 2020 17: 58 New
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            blue-evil. There are no harmless doses of alcohol.)
    4. neri73-r 14 February 2020 14: 42 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      Gouge your own state to please your uncle !!! and continue to peck.

      Not only, but also to spite us !!!! And this was the main thing in the decision to gouge.
    5. Alexey LK 15 February 2020 05: 17 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      Gouge your own state to please your uncle !!!

      Not certainly in that way. Unconsciously “built” the power, and by naivety, inexperience and stupidity “completed”. And most importantly - under the sensitive, but unspoken (although not very hidden) leadership of a certain stratum of certain people who have realized that this is their historic chance to enrich themselves by robbing and parasitizing naive people who are “not their own” for them. But the people did not find their sensible, bold, strong-willed and morally stable leaders. First of all, among the security forces. And all because an independent state, almost literally, fell from the sky, and did not become the result of a long intense bloody struggle, during which the necessary leaders are usually forged. Instead, an old, repainted nomenclature remained at the top, which in 2004 handed over to a new, stronger oligarchic brawl, which saddled nationalist themes for the emotional and intellectual neutralization of the population. And someone else’s uncle is needed exclusively as a roof ...
    6. max702 15 February 2020 22: 17 New
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      The fact that I understood everything in Ukraine back in 91 (as well as the rest of the 14 republics) after boorish remarks about feeding lazy stupid Russians, how to separate right now and how they will heal .. it became clear all the khan of the territory .. But the Russians naively believed that the inhabitants of this misunderstanding would come to their senses take up the mind, and continued to feed this pigsty and at a terrible loss to their country .. The only thing that is a pity is the former Russian lands, Kharkov, Donbass (although the latter is no longer so scary) that the Communists generously distributed to crooked nonhumans ..
  2. 7,62h54 14 February 2020 12: 38 New
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    I would like to see a similar analysis for Russia.
    1. New Year day 14 February 2020 12: 55 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      I would like to see a similar analysis for Russia.

      Nezya !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Just as my mother received a pension of 11 thousand, so does the mother of a friend receive a pension equivalent to 11 thousand in Kharkov. Pay without delay both there and there
      1. Ros 56 14 February 2020 16: 27 New
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        How many years does she get 11 thousand?
        1. New Year day 14 February 2020 17: 02 New
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          Quote: Ros 56
          How many years does she get 11 thousand?

          From 14
          1. 16112014nk 14 February 2020 17: 56 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            How many years does she get 11 thousand?

            From 14

            Given the indexation, it should now be around 18 rubles. Why is there still 000?
            1. New Year day 14 February 2020 17: 59 New
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              Quote: 16112014nk
              Why is there still 11?

              In the social security interview, they said that the pension is higher than the minimum pension and no increase is due.
              I have both before and after indexing 16 thousand hi
              1. 16112014nk 14 February 2020 18: 02 New
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                Quote: Silvestr
                In the social security they said

                Yes, it is useless to argue with a social security, you yourself will remain in the cold.
                1. New Year day 14 February 2020 18: 09 New
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                  Quote: 16112014nk
                  Yes, it's useless to argue with a social security

                  Alas! Princes
          2. Ros 56 14 February 2020 19: 09 New
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            Well, why lie, there is an indexation every year, already 2-3 thousand would be added. A little, I agree, but that would not have stood still for sure.
            1. New Year day 14 February 2020 19: 37 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              Well, why lie?

              If I expose a document, shoot yourself?
              1. Ros 56 14 February 2020 19: 42 New
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                I will not shoot myself because of other people's money, and there is nothing. I’ll clarify again, starting from the year 14 and until today, every month the same amount? It just can't be. Indexation goes every year in the region of 4%, he began to receive from the age of 14.
                1. New Year day 14 February 2020 19: 48 New
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                  Quote: Ros 56
                  from the age of 14 to today, every month the same amount?

                  Tomorrow the postman brings a pension, they send me a photo receipt and I show it to you
                2. New Year day 16 February 2020 05: 16 New
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                  Quote: Ros 56
                  It just can't be


                  can! If you look carefully, then pension 8631 rubles and 2782 for the 2nd disability group
                  1. Ros 56 16 February 2020 07: 56 New
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                    So this is for 20 years and no one argued about the amount. Let's now compare in 14 years. After all, it was about the fact that with 14g. and 20g. the amount was the same.
                    1. New Year day 16 February 2020 08: 23 New
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                      Quote: Ros 56
                      Let's now compare in 14 years. After all, it was about the fact that with 14g. and 20g. the amount was the same.

                      and about that too. You can count how she grew.
                      Quote: Ros 56
                      Well, why lie, there is an indexation every year, already 2-3 thousand would be added.

                      And should the old woman keep receipts? Do you keep receipts for 6 years?laughing
                      1. Ros 56 16 February 2020 08: 40 New
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                        I do not want anything. You wrote that the pension from the age of 14 to this day is 11 rubles. I objected to you, since indexation takes place every year and the amount of the pension cannot always be the same, that’s all.
                        What you want to prove, I don’t understand. There are a lot of pensioners and everyone understands this very well.
                        And as for the storage of various documents, but I keep serious documents as well as receipts for payment of three years, the statute of limitations in our state lasts just as long. With our hitans, it’s impossible in another way, somehow I had to butt with the power engineers here and I won the court, and there were other graters. And after 3 years you can safely destroy your papers, after this period claims will not be accepted.
              2. Filxnumx 16 February 2020 11: 15 New
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                and if I set mine for 2017-2020 - will you shoot?
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      2. Egor53 14 February 2020 18: 27 New
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        http://magspace.ru/blog/blog/319898.html
        Here you have, Sylvester, a similar analysis for Russia.
        1. New Year day 14 February 2020 18: 30 New
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          Quote: Egor53
          Here you are, Sylvester

          Thank you
      3. ikrut 19 February 2020 02: 17 New
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        Pension equivalent to 11 thousand rubles is rare for Ukraine. More often, half as much. Massively - about 5 thousand rubles.
    2. Sailor 14 February 2020 12: 58 New
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      I think it will not be better, but in% terms it is even worse.
    3. posternakd 14 February 2020 13: 40 New
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      And he will be oh how not comforting for us. For example, Russia lost 13 million inhabitants, and also without any wars, tens of thousands of enterprises, schools, hospitals, villages, cities. Now oligarchs are breeding one by one, the speed of their enrichment is the first in the world! Is it with such a poor population ??? Our fabulous coast completely beguiled and torn from the common people into space, there is no one in his circle who even supports Putin in any way, even my old people.
      1. ikrut 19 February 2020 02: 29 New
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        "Tens of thousands of enterprises lost in Russia"? Throughout the USSR, in the best years there were several tens of thousands of enterprises (in total about 70 thousand) :))) And in Russia it is less. "... The number of medium and large enterprises in the industry of the RSFSR in 1990 amounted to 13 units ... And as of January 063, 1, 2017 units" (c). :))))))) Apparently something was found after all :)))
        1. posternakd 20 February 2020 01: 06 New
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          Not the point. The fact is that a lot of schools, hospitals, the enterprise have lost
    4. cherkas.oe 14 February 2020 14: 16 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      I would like to see a similar analysis for Russia.

      Yeah, and how to explain the fall of everything - to the plinth? For example, how to explain that the shops are full of milk, sour cream, butter, cottage cheese, cheeses, and a cow for a thousand kilometers is one. And at the same time, we do not even import milk from abroad. It is not possible to make sour milk from milk that is sold to Russians, it does not turn sour, turning into two fractions as it should, (whey and cottage cheese), but simply turns into a stinky rancid slurry. they are familiar, they don’t even suspect that instead of milk, kefir, butter, sour cream and cheese, they buy burdha made from palm oil, colorings, preservatives, flavors and flavors. If near the factories that produce these products, by the way, they are no longer called "milk factory" or "milk factory", put video surveillance, then you will not see more than one machine - "milk truck", and if you see then their total tonnage will be 100500 times less from the tonnage of manufactured products. It’s not for nothing that at the shops of the well-known Kuban agricultural firm the “agrocomplex” changed the slogan and instead of “natural products of the Kuban” they modestly write: - “the right products”. And you say: - "I would like a similar analysis for Russia." Kharyazhuzhny is not capable of it, only we, taking on one topic, can briefly describe the depth of the fall or the height of take-off, of Russian industry and agriculture, over the years of rampant democracy and an effective "MANAGEMENT".
      1. 7,62h54 14 February 2020 14: 59 New
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        I am not the Dear Leader of All Russia, and you have not opened my eyes.
    5. The leader of the Redskins 14 February 2020 16: 41 New
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      Yeah ... As during the years of my school days, when compared with the Russian Empire in 1913! True, then, in the 80s, an intelligent historian came and explained the incorrectness of this comparison. But such a historian did not come to the present author, so he stamps articles one more beautifully than the other.
  3. bessmertniy 14 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    How Ukraine works, so it lives. And when, instead of work, a chronic breakdown, then soon the teeth on the shelf. negative
  4. apro 14 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    Well, Russia is also not far gone ....
    If you compare the RSFSR 1989 and Russia 2020. also a lot of sad things.
    1. Chervonny 14 February 2020 13: 28 New
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      Quote: apro
      Well, Russia is also not far gone ....
      If you compare the RSFSR 1989 and Russia 2020. also a lot of sad things.

      That's for sure. The collapse of the USSR led to an economic and political disaster for all the Union republics.
    2. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 14: 07 New
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      Quote: apro
      If you compare the RSFSR 1989 and Russia 2020. also a lot of sad things.

      And where did it not happen in the post-Soviet space and the CMEA countries?
      1. Kronos 14 February 2020 15: 43 New
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        Everywhere only one country of a country such as Poland, Bulgaria, Hungary managed to overcome it and ekonomichiski develop
      2. The leader of the Redskins 14 February 2020 16: 46 New
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        Well, I was in Poland and Hungary. I won’t tell the Magyars, and the Poles are not feeling very bad. Although, if you take planes and cars, they don’t let out either, but tractors, buses, and trams were even delivered to us until recently. Agriculture is developing normally, the food industry ...
        1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 17: 38 New
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          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Agriculture is developing normally, the food industry ...

          And food prices don't bite.
    3. Ros 56 14 February 2020 16: 29 New
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      Oleg, but didn’t forget what we went through in 90, especially in the first half?
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        Quote: Ros 56
        Oleg, but didn’t forget what we went through in 90, especially in the first half?

        Through counter-revolution ...
        But they started to understand this a little later ...
  5. Mathafaka 14 February 2020 12: 44 New
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    Incorrect analysis. The Ukrainian SSR was associated with production chains in other republics, many factories were imprisoned for excess production, which Ukraine itself could not use.
    1. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 28 New
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      And given that the entire national economic complex of the Union collapsed and barter began, the takeover of enterprises by new directors, and the products became redundant at some point and ......... The bad thing is that it would be possible to reduce production in Ukraine and not to ruin the industry, but it was still tied to cooperation. And newcomers (at least somewhere) were simply either cut into metal or for profitable products (quick money) to be rebuilt. The Kerch ship is a repair ship, it’s also a shipbuilding-pan (really good!) began to produce instead of landing hovercraft. And so on. Liberal wrecking .....
  6. Warrior MorePhoto 14 February 2020 12: 45 New
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    The minimum wage in Ukraine is already greater than in Russia. Shame on the state pumping oil and gas! You can even keep silent about other riches ...
    It is necessary to watch what is happening at home and not in America, Ukraine, etc. ...
    1. Constructor68 14 February 2020 13: 25 New
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      Yeah, let's not write or read materials about the situation in other countries at all, we’ll just sit and whine like you and we are all bad. Let’s close all VO headings and leave one “Yaroslavna’s cry”.
      1. locos 14 February 2020 13: 41 New
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        And the fact that VO has a lot of publications about Ukraine, is this normal in your opinion?
      2. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 37 New
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        Haraluzhny like that sword (his avatar) can open corns and pour salt on the wound.
        For a dozen years, Russia may not have made up for much, but if the Russian Armed Forces were even a little weaker, the pilots would have inserted a gun somewhere. They didn’t help the Serbs, but they helped the Syrians ..... Not everything is so bad, but it will still be not enough))))))))))
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        but what's the point?) all the same, it all comes down to uryapatriotism and what’s worse there anyway)
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  7. Professor Preobrazhensky 14 February 2020 12: 46 New
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    For an illustrative example, consider the economies of countries such as Burundi, Congo, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Malawi, Ethiopia, Niger, Madagascar ... Against this background, as well as against the background of unhappy Ukraine - we are so awesome!

    And I would generally prohibit the mention of such countries as Qatar, Luxembourg, Singapore, Brunei, Ireland, Norway, otherwise we will have to compare their huge GDP and just our huge area, in this regard we have figures of the same order.
    1. Free wind 14 February 2020 12: 56 New
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      Do not rock, do not, what do you want in Guinea. And how is it in Guinea, and who has the longer the main Papuan.
      1. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 08 New
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        laughing laughing laughing amused .. plus you +
      2. Lipchanin 14 February 2020 13: 31 New
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        Quote: Free Wind
        Do not rock, do not, what do you want in Guinea. And how is it in Guinea, and who has the longer the main Papuan.

        lol
        1. Free wind 14 February 2020 19: 07 New
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          Many are unaware of these customs, but very funny.
    2. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 41 New
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      The president would have one of the countries listed in the PVV chair, then the roof would have gone to him right away))))))))
    3. Winnie76 14 February 2020 14: 55 New
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      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      And I would generally prohibit the mention of such countries as Qatar, Luxembourg, Singapore, Brunei, Ireland, Norway, otherwise we will have to compare their huge GDP and just our huge area, in this regard we have figures of the same order.

      What's the point of comparing a fly and an elephant? Different opportunities, different needs
      1. Kronos 14 February 2020 15: 45 New
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        Yes, in terms of living they are elephants and Russia is a fly
  8. adler87 14 February 2020 12: 50 New
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    But in Russia, how? I'm afraid we will soon catch up with Ukraine.
    1. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 43 New
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      Hardly, they will have time to break through another bottom))))))), and will not catch up)))))))
  9. Dmitry V. 14 February 2020 12: 58 New
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    If people tolerate such power, then they deserve it.
    1. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 49 New
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      It’s good that after a fervor, Yavlinsky didn’t, ZAGANOV ... there were dirty tricks and shoved this Putin, and if he had not become president or would have been banged about 8 years ago, what would have been a revolution?))))))) ) I doubt something)))))
  10. smaug78 14 February 2020 13: 03 New
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    Is there a comparison of the RSFSR and Russia for the same years?
    Author - do not write please, analytics is not yours. The result is stupid propaganda of the liberalist level (
  11. swzero 14 February 2020 13: 05 New
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    So you can compare the RSFSR and Russia. Here, too, to put it mildly, everything is not very good - how many enterprises and research institutes around the world have gone? In my opinion, Belorussia lost the least, having managed to preserve most of the heritage of the USSR.
    1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 14: 12 New
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      Here, too, to put it mildly, everything is not very good - how many enterprises and research institutes around the world have gone?

      But Skolkovo was built, the man-made creation of DAM.
  12. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 05 New
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    Tears welling up .. understanding the volume of production at sunset of the USSR, and the state of the fraternal republic of Ukraine now ... How did it happen ... :( We have no one closer to you with the Belarusians .. well, the Serbs still ... It’s like that to restore and end the fratricidal war. This war is beneficial only for the United States and the EU with Britain ...
    1. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 52 New
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      Ukrainians will pass away, but Belarusians can step on their rake ....
      1. siemens7774 14 February 2020 22: 26 New
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        ukrov already fizzle will not pass. there everything is deplorable.
      2. Lycan 18 February 2020 18: 24 New
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        Holy rake - do not happen without infusion.
        I went to the hospital - give a traumatic place to a friend.
  13. sabotage 14 February 2020 13: 09 New
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    In 1989, Ukraine, like the whole of the USSR, produced nasty quality metal that could only be used on fences. Bad tractors, disgusting cars and so on. Therefore, after the collapse, it was all bent.
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      Quote: sabotage
      Bad tractors, disgusting cars and so on. Therefore, after the collapse, it was all bent.

      Which are still working since 1989 on the fields of the former USSR. My neighbor MTZ has been working for me since 1986, and two MAZs. But the "Caterpillar" something is not enough. I am not talking about merchant ships and fishing trawlers from the early 80s. Iron was good, and people are stronger than this iron.
    2. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 55 New
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      But on the nenki ride ZAZ 968 yet, and the Meren of that era is invisible))))) Joke))))
    3. bk316 14 February 2020 15: 49 New
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      They produced metal of poor quality, which could only be used on fences.

      Oh, but what about the titanium beams for the Tu-160, they still can’t repeat it, and indeed they buy titanium from us ....
    4. sharp-lad 14 February 2020 21: 27 New
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      Then my friend on the farm has an old, bad tractor still working. Look at the equipment at least sometimes and need to service!
    5. posternakd 16 February 2020 23: 22 New
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      And even now, little has changed, I particularly agree for metal, I know that the bourgeois pipe serves forever, but in our fistula after 2 years.
  14. knn54 14 February 2020 13: 13 New
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    This is not good with us. This is bad for them.
    Regarding the Ukrainian SSR. I read a translation of an article by a Canadian economist (1971), where the author reasonably argued that the Kharkov region (industry, chernozem, Shebelinki gas. Oil reserves at the borders with Sumy and Poltava regions) could exist as a separate. self-sufficient state.
    Today is the most, let's say unpleasant. that the residual life of a nuclear power plant is a maximum of three years.
    Major gas production wells are being depleted.
    Old equipment at iron and steel works is deteriorating.
    For two years after the Maidan, Ukraine was discarded by development 25 years ago.
    The Soviet legacy was sifted, but there were no Creators.
    And the worst thing is Ukraine is not safe.
    1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 14: 22 New
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      For two years after the Maidan, Ukraine was discarded by development 25 years ago.

      You yourself well know that people who can destroy are not capable of creating. Good people in Ukraine, there are no bad people, but God didn’t send the “leader” of the good. And the destroyers seized power. I can only condole.
      1. beeper 14 February 2020 17: 19 New
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        hi Thank you for your condolences, Comrade Tihonmarine!
        With an adequate Amerobandera occupation, it does not make sense to get into “leaders” if the Kleptozhidobanderaites cannot be killed for some reason (although it will hinder them, because all the “drawn” leaders back in February March 2014 killed ??!), then the American special services will quickly help them, just make a mark, so they will also destroy their relatives with a “zagal” with impunity!
        This is amerofascism in action, comrade Tihonmarine, the jokes with him are bad - whoever didn’t understand this, burned up unknown in the crematorium, feeds grave worms in the ground or in the catfish river and crayfish — no one murked or whined about them! request
        1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 17: 41 New
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          This is amerofascism in action, comrade Tihonmarine

          In the early 90s, I also experienced this.
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          pischak. I confirm, this is how it happens. I myself experienced this ((
  15. g_ae 14 February 2020 13: 14 New
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    This "Great Russian" arrogance is absolutely incomprehensible. Any Ukrainian analyte can write a mirror article about Russia and will be right. I don’t give a damn that the barn burned down, but the cow died from a neighbor. What are all the same brothers.
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      I don’t give a damn that the barn burned down, but the cow died from a neighbor. What are all the same brothers.

      neighbor’s cow is holy.
      It is convenient to compare with those with whom it is convenient.
      Of course, when the USSR was (2 countries in the world), then its parts were very developed.
      And individually, someone in the forest who is for firewood. And if they are also waging wars with each other-so in general ..
    2. Grandfather Crimea 14 February 2020 14: 57 New
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      The family is not without freaks, but they do not laugh at the wretched ((((((((((()))))))))))
  16. strannik1985 14 February 2020 13: 15 New
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    A strange comparison, Ukraine was part of the USSR with the socialist economy and finances, as capitalism came in and everything fell apart.
    1. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 38 New
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      Anglo-US capitalism has not yet led anyone fortunately, but has driven many into the coffin ..
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        Anglo-State Capitalism

        Not only everyone can stimulate the economy by non-market methods.
  17. askort154 14 February 2020 13: 22 New
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    The economy of the USSR was a single, healthy organism of 16 organs.
    The lion's share of the economy depended on 3 bodies - the Russian Federation, the Ukrainian SSR, the BSSR.
    When this organism was flattened into pieces, only one organ survived - the Russian Federation.
    All other organs, have undergone "decomposition", and survive due to the donation of the Russian Federation. The Ukrainian economy alone cannot develop. The hope of the West did not materialize.
    1. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 36 New
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      In general, plus to you, but partially disagree .. A couple of Baltic republics, plus Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia were more likely a tumor of the body and were on subsidies :)
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        FORCE 38GB In general, plus to you, but partially disagree .. A couple of Baltic republics, plus Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia were more likely a tumor of the body and were on subsidies :)

        No, each republic contributed to the common market (fruits, wine, etc.), and subsidies to them returned to the general economy. The economy of the USSR could develop due to the domestic market (population 320 mln. People).
        Now in Russia 147 mln. people, and this is not enough, for the rapid development of the economy due to the domestic market, 200-220 mln are needed. people population.
        1. URAL72 14 February 2020 18: 28 New
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          Ascort, what are you sculpting? There were 15 republics and not 16, or did you remember Karelia? According to the 1989 census, the population was 289 million and not 320. Russia is not the most stable republic, there is still Turkmenistan, no worse than the affairs of the Kazakhs and Azerbaijan. 147 million would be enough, but there are 2 conditions: to raise the minimum wage at least twice, and tightly regulate imports, but the money will go to manufacturers of cars, electronics, etc.
  18. Gardamir 14 February 2020 13: 26 New
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    Maybe you don’t need to write such articles? As a person living in today's Russia, I am more interested in what I have done compared to the Union.
    1. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 33 New
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      Already much has been done, and more will be! Look through the "Made with Us" site, but watch the video .. questions will disappear.
      1. g_ae 14 February 2020 13: 39 New
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        For some reason I’m sure that in Ukraine there are similar sites about “doneunas” and “analogue”. From overwork to overwork.
        1. FORCE 38GB 14 February 2020 13: 43 New
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          Why not:)
          1. g_ae 14 February 2020 13: 55 New
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            Yes, just not impressive, not convincing and annoying. The moment has come when stupid propaganda just hurts, even if it’s true.
      2. Free wind 16 February 2020 06: 22 New
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        No need to dramatize. a lot is being done! In our small town, we have opened three new enterprises, well, to provide funeral services. But new ones.
      3. Asad 18 February 2020 12: 13 New
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        Much done? In Novosibirsk, the Sibselmash plant was finally closed, workers in the spring will be fired. Chkalovsky Aviation Serdyukov is going to transfer to Komsomolsk on Cupid!
    2. locos 14 February 2020 13: 46 New
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      Dear Gardamir! The author Kharaluzhny cannot but write such articles. This is his bread. In 2014, such naive analytics was a great success. And now in 2020 is already annoying. Although some people like it. The dead neighbor's cow is holy smile
  19. Eug
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    Aircraft factories with 250 winged cars per year - where and which ones? Unless with aircraft repair - then maybe, I do not know statistics on them. In its best years, KhAZ produced 70-80 Tu-134 of various modifications (with UBL), how many Tu-143 and KR I don’t know, I’m sure that the author too. Kiev that produced 170 -180 cars a year? Oh, I doubt it ...
  20. 7,62h54 14 February 2020 14: 16 New
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    The braces are weakening. "How bad they have" no longer works.
  21. Strashila 14 February 2020 14: 31 New
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    What is only Ukraine, in Russia, what’s different. First of all, everything that worked for export was destroyed.
  22. Free wind 14 February 2020 14: 39 New
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    A group of figures under the nickname "haraluzhny" a little cheating, to put it mildly. Rotary excavators, industrial were made a lot where, to the main consumers to drive away from Ukraine, Beet harvesters in Belarus did, on the basis of Belarus it was. It seems that beer was brewed in almost every town, it happened in the villages, beer was not pasteurized, and of course they could not be taken far. In the USSR, people were not poisoned by all kinds of suragates, which are stored open for six months. According to the pastry shop, I don’t know. There were pies in each town. Candies were also made everywhere. The story is interesting for tractors, the YuMZ-5 tractor turned out to be very successful and the Swedish VOLVO bought the license for its production in 1975, and they still produce it today, naturally, with alterations. Only now, a diesel engine D-64N of the Rybinsk Aircraft Plant was put on UMZeshka, their production was long ago closed. According to KhTZ, the story is the same .... In the eighties, the plant was advised to stop the production of caterpillar tractors since in Volgograd and Pavlodar they are already producing dofiga. It is necessary to increase the production of T-150K. not the best tractor, the engine is bad, but they promised to supply 236 diesel engines to YaMZ, and eventually zilch. Oilseed crops and we are trying to sow where possible. Nobody especially cultivated a potato. , planted purely for themselves, the main crops are cereals, sunflowers, corn. Corn in the early 19th century began to grow. About Ukrainians is a disaster. Currently, about 42-44 million people live in Ukraine. Halaruzhny claim about 30 million Ukrainians, apparently talking about ethnic Ukrainians, and where does the economy?
    1. Fishery 18 February 2020 20: 22 New
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      according to local data, 37 lyamas, although xs how they conducted this census) are at least very inconspicuous for the population
  23. WayKheThuo 14 February 2020 14: 49 New
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    So the author wrote an article, and I want to ask the author: "And what? Why did you, the author, write this? What new things did you, the author, give to the audience who read your article?"
    The fact that not only Ukraine, but also practically all the republics of the Union flew down according to economic indicators, is not news at all, but a sad reality.
    The fact that Ukraine (and we, probably) did not reach a level of production comparable to the USSR is not at all surprising, but natural.
    And most importantly - it has long been known and said to everyone, and it has been written and shown "over 9000" times.
    How much can you crush all this garbage in a mortar?
    It would be better if you, the author, wrote a good, useful article in which you showed and told why, in fact, after 1991, all these riches that the USSR brought to the top were not needed by anyone? With numbers, statistics and justification of their opinions.
    That would be a tse!
  24. rotkiv04 14 February 2020 15: 24 New
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    Have fun in the country of victorious idiocy
    1. Pavel57 14 February 2020 16: 24 New
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      A 10% minority can seize power and do anything with the country.
  25. Radikal 14 February 2020 16: 06 New
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    Everything that the author stated in his article (respect to him) about the Ukrainian SSR fully applies to the RSFSR, I think the numbers will be about the same. As liberals like to say ...- the "patriotic" part of our community - polymers have all ... fallen! lol sad
    1. Pavel57 14 February 2020 16: 23 New
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      In the Russian Federation, many industries followed the Ukrainian scenario, but a turnaround happily happened - the aircraft industry, the automotive industry, and the nuclear industry. All with a creak, but there are positive trends.
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  27. Radikal 14 February 2020 16: 27 New
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    Quote: Pavel57
    In the Russian Federation, many industries followed the Ukrainian scenario, but a turnaround happily happened - the aircraft industry, the automotive industry, and the nuclear industry. All with a creak, but there are positive trends.

    You, in my opinion, are too optimistic, to say the least. hi
  28. Sancho_SP 14 February 2020 16: 27 New
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    And why measure iron and coal? These are not commodities, but raw materials.
  29. Radikal 14 February 2020 16: 32 New
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    Quote: Strashila
    What is only Ukraine, in Russia, what’s different. First of all, everything that worked for export was destroyed.

    To be more precise, what was competitive. First of all, the defense industry sectors. hi
  30. magadan72 14 February 2020 16: 52 New
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    It is not a shame to pour mud on Ukraine when they themselves are in the same th ... not. Russia is Europe ... -the smallest pensions, THE SMALLEST AVERAGE SALES No GDP growth ...
  31. monster 14 February 2020 18: 03 New
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    There were three sisters ... Elder Russia, middle (such a little in my mind :-)) BelaRus, and the youngest ... frank slut-Ukraine.
  32. Imperial Technocrat 14 February 2020 19: 30 New
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    I would also add that the remnants of b / Ukraine live off the credit financial pyramid. Without this recharge, what is still there now would have collapsed completely
  33. Vladimir Mashkov 14 February 2020 21: 47 New
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    As a person living in New Russia (temporarily the territory of Ukraine) I testify: everything is true. Industry and agriculture are almost destroyed, withering and surviving. There is no work, young people go abroad (except for the Bandera freaks: they are fighting all over the country). The population is not 42, but it’s good even if 30 million. Almost everything is imported: both products and manufactured goods. A little touch: in the autumn I bought potatoes and onions at the wholesale market for the winter (in vain: the winter is warm and they are cheaper now). I decided to ask how much the potatoes and onions cost from relatives in Eburg. He was stunned: the same kind of potato that I bought, they are three times cheaper, and onions - half! But in Russia there are much more salaries with pensions !!!
    1. Fishery 18 February 2020 20: 26 New
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      but in NOvorossia everything blossoms and smells) I don't have any relatives who buy onions and potatoes for the winter for the winter) I’m not a relative in the Urals, I lived there and the products in Ukraine are cheaper by 10-20 percent in the Russian Federation, and even cheaper in Poland.
  34. Andre 15 February 2020 03: 51 New
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    Now Belarusians are gathering on the way of Ukraine, and there are 9 of them for 500. If they start to flee en masse as Ukrainians, the country will not be in a short time.
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    There is no former, and the one that remained striving for fascization of the country is not needed.
  36. tarackanovaleksei 15 February 2020 20: 43 New
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    The missing country. Lost in dreams and lost in nothing.
  37. IC
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    For our countries, we need to introduce a new main indicator for comparison.
    Forbes list of billionaires growing
  38. Maks1995 19 February 2020 10: 03 New
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    Ah, again hohlonovost ...
    We have the same...
    Did 2 hydrofoil boats or upgrade an old plane - a breakthrough already
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    The share of state economies in world GDP in%.
    Data are given on purchasing power parity (PPP IMF)
    Purchasing Power Parity (PPP) takes into account the cost of living in different
    countries of the world, not market exchange rates.

    1970 USA-22,52% of the USSR-13,18%

    1980 USA-21,36% of the USSR-11,71% of the RSFSR 7,8% of the Ukrainian SSR 2,0% Spain 2,18%

    2017 USA-15,26% of the Russian Federation 3,1% Ukraine 0,29% Spain 1.4%

    In 1989, Spain ranked 10th in the world in terms of industrial production. (3% of the world). Then what was Ukraine occupied? Answer: 5-6 in Europe, 10-11 in the world. Almost on a par with Spain.
    It must be borne in mind that the USSR developed in the most difficult historical conditions, narrowing the gap with the leader of the world economy after two devastating wars. During the Second World War, 1710 cities and towns, more than 70 villages were destroyed in the USSR, 000 million buildings and structures were completely or partially destroyed. Also, 1.5 industrial enterprises, 31850 state farms, 1 machine and tractor stations, and 876 collective farms were destroyed and destroyed. The USSR lost 2% of its national wealth.

    Share of the RSFSR and the Russian Federation in world industrial production in% (PPP IMF)

    1985 - 12%. 2nd place in the world
    2018 - 3.4%. 6th place in the world.
    In 2018, China leads 24,2%. Then come: USA - 9.7%, India 5,8%, Japan 4,3%, Indonesia 3,5%.
    In 1985, the Federal Republic of Germany had about 6% of world industrial production (4th place), however, due to the transfer of production capacities to Asia, its share fell to 3,2% (7th place). This is despite the accession of such a highly developed state as the GDR (1.5% of global industrial production.)
    In 1985, due to the presence of many industrial enterprises, any average city of the USSR was full of well-educated and cultured people. Including workers who visited the theater and wrote magazines "Around the World", "Technique of Youth", "Science and Life".
    In 1990, the RSFSR produced 17,9% of the world engineering products, of which 22% of the world production of metal cutting machines, 27% of aircraft, 21% of trucks and 4,8% of cars.

    This table served as the basis for all the work:
    GDP per capita at PPP of Russia and other countries
    in US dollars. Where is stagnation in the USSR visible here?

    1970 Spain-7921 USSR -5569 RSFSR-6100 Italy-9508 Japan-4760
    1989 Spain-10500 USSR -9303 RSFSR-10326 Italy-15500 Japan-20000
    2007 Spain-25500 Ukraine-7832 Russia-10845 Italy-29000 Japan-36000
    2017 Spain-38381 Ukraine-8713 Russia-27893 Italy-38233 Japan-42942
    2018 Spain-40139 Ukraine-9283 Russia-29267 Italy-39637 Japan-44227

    Keep in mind the decline in the purchasing power of the dollar. In 1990, the Big Mac in the United States cost 2 dollars 10 cents. In 2011, 4 dollars 7 cents. In 2017, 5 dollars 1 cent. You do not need to be a great specialist to see how it took Russia almost 20 years to reach a level far from the best in 1989. Here it is the real price paid by our peoples for the collapse of the USSR.
    If at the beginning of the 19th century tsarist Russia was 3,5 times inferior in terms of GDP per capita of the UK and the USA (being at the global average level), then during the years of Soviet power this lag was reduced to 2 times.

    UN Human Development Index.
    (In other words, this is the standard of living in the country). Place in the world
    1988,2017. The crisis of socialism?


    1988 USA-19 ​​USSR-26 Bulgaria-27 Poland-31 Czech Republic-22 USSR-26
    2017 USA-13 RF- 49 Bulgaria-51 Poland 33 Czech Republic-27 Ukraine-88