American production can not cope with the release of armored vehicles


The Pentagon is faced with the unwillingness of American production to master the serial production of new products. We are talking about the new army multi-purpose armored vehicle AMPV and the upgraded howitzer M109A7 Paladin.


It was assumed that the company BAE Systems will not have problems with the deployment of production at its facilities in York (Pennsylvania). However, now the country's military department is forced to redistribute its costs, giving priority to the purchase of other equipment.

According to Defense News, AMPV was supposed to replace the "armored personnel carrier of the Vietnamese era" M113. Due to difficulties in production, plans for the financial year 2021 had to reduce the purchase of AMPV from 143 units to 32. The acquisition program of the Paladins turned out to be a failure - instead of 37 systems, the army will order only seven.

At the same time, as indicated, "the overall objective procurement requirements remain unchanged." In this regard, slippage in supplies impedes the implementation of rearmament plans.

Along with the problems encountered on the assembly line in York, the military faced shortcomings in the technical design. In general, it is not clear which of the reasons outweighs the supply disruptions - oversights made during the development, or the inability to cope with the production of machines.

For example, in 2017 and 2018, 68 Paladins had to be recalled, as indicated, for their "complete dismantling, inspection, repair, and retesting." Then this measure was due to the unreliability of the howitzer shutter, caused by deficiencies in welding.

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  1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 05: 02 New
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    But some "ikanamizdy" still believe that a lot of dollars will automatically allow you to build anything and as quickly as possible.
    1. Lexus 14 February 2020 05: 10 New
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      Still, trying to create something for a bunch of dollars is incomparably easier than waiting for the defense company’s engineers for a salary slightly higher than the beggarly "unarmed" weapons "on new physical principles." Something I don’t see is that the Russian Army is inundated with novelties, and not with the “finishing touches” of the Soviet backlog. request
      1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 05: 21 New
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        Well, of course, with dollars is easier than without them, but with trained specialists and production, even without a bunch of dollars, you can do more than the other way around.
        1. Pessimist22 14 February 2020 05: 35 New
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          I wonder who will work without money?
          1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 05: 45 New
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            But how much can you accumulate without personnel and machinery? Even sitting on a pile of dollars? It’s not even remembering an embargo.
            1. Pessimist22 14 February 2020 05: 50 New
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              You can attract staff and buy machines, as they do everywhere. Even in the USSR, nothing was done on bare enthusiasm, means of production are always needed.
              1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 05: 54 New
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                Something the Americans did not succeed, according to the article, but they have plenty of money, and no sanctions.
                Quote: Pessimist22
                You can attract frames
                Yeah, the machine tool specialist-welder-electronic engineer turns out that way, stuff the dough for the woman on the bodice and she’s done, she gives birth to whom they ordered, and in order to give birth more quickly, they take nine women.
                1. Pessimist22 14 February 2020 06: 09 New
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                  You are probably a schoolboy, first distorting the words, then you want to explain trivial things, now it seems like not a vacation, and you are not at school.
                  1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 06: 21 New
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                    Schoolboy
                    Quote: Pessimist22
                    first distort the words
                    In which place? Jargonisms are not a distortion of words.
                    Quote: Pessimist22
                    then you want to explain trivial things
                    Sorry, they don’t reach many without chewing.
          2. Lamata 14 February 2020 07: 56 New
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            In principle, what we pay right now is practically without money. A good friend left Rostvertol, a design engineer - zp 15000 minus personal income tax.
        2. Sonmaster 14 February 2020 05: 37 New
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          "Cadres decide everything" (c).
          And for materially and morally motivated personnel, there is nothing impossible ...
        3. Lexus 14 February 2020 05: 38 New
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          Against the background of fattening idiots, it is not so easy to find duDacs who want to grumble for free, because ingenious people are talented in everything. Moreover, now it is not difficult to find where labor, especially mental labor, is valued at its true worth, and not on the residual principle. It is ridiculous to wait for breakthrough technologies from promoted scientific companies as a “debt to the Homeland".
          1. Lamata 14 February 2020 08: 38 New
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            Moreover, the homeland, non-contemporary, capitalist, no longer owes anything, except for taxes.
      2. KCA
        KCA 14 February 2020 05: 36 New
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        Here, there’s little conceptually new developments everywhere, in any industry, nothing that we, the poor, and the richest mattresses, are completing 80-plus summer V-1 cruise missiles and V-2 ballistic missiles, we are completing the Mark I English tank, which is 104 years old , Ilon nassevs Musk completes the electric car, which appeared in 1841 (the first car with an internal combustion engine in 1885, even the innovation - cars with a hybrid engine appeared in the early 20th century)
      3. svp67 14 February 2020 05: 39 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Something I don’t see is that the Russian Army is inundated with novelties, and not with the “finishing touches” of the Soviet backlog.

        And yet it’s very interesting where they spend a lot of money. We now have a lot of money going for re-equipment with rocket technology, both in the Strategic Missile Forces and the Air and Space Forces, which is very expensive. The Americans are not even upgrading the rockets yet ... Where, well, where can the military budget be lower than all the rest of the world combined?
        1. Mikhail m 14 February 2020 05: 48 New
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          The maintenance of bases and fleets is worth a lot.
          1. svp67 14 February 2020 05: 56 New
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            Quote: Michael m
            The maintenance of bases and fleets is worth a lot.

            I agree. And also the "support" of allies and "sixes"
        2. Lexus 14 February 2020 06: 02 New
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          The Americans are not even upgrading rockets yet ...

          Does anyone have doubts that the Minutemen and the Tridents will not reach? In vain. Trident 2 has an unbroken record with nearly 200 consecutive successful launches. Do the "Clubs" have how much?
          Where, well, where can the military budget be lower than that of all other countries of the world combined?

          The Air Force, Navy, Army Aviation, satellite constellation and much more are the largest in the world. The highest saturation with adjustable ammunition. Each SV soldier has the latest night vision devices and sights, including thermal imaging, collimator. 100% of armored vehicles equipped with thermal imagers. Get to the nearest part in Russia, except for the special forces, and ask the soldier what kind of sight he has on personal weapons.
          R&D expenses exceed the budget of the RF Ministry of Defense. Even if one of the technologies obtained is not used in the armed forces, it will certainly find application in the civilian sphere.
          1. svp67 14 February 2020 06: 10 New
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            Quote: lexus
            In vain. Trident 2 has an unbroken record with nearly 200 consecutive successful launches. Do the "Clubs" have how much?

            And let's compare when the "Trident" appeared, and when the "Mace"? And compare them not with the total number, but with an equal number of starts. And there’s not such an abyss there, the Trident at the beginning didn’t fly the same every time ...
            1. Lexus 14 February 2020 06: 20 New
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              Yes, only in open sources can you find dozens of videos of the arrival of American warhead missiles "to a given area", but ours is something "not a lot." You understand what I mean.
              1. svp67 14 February 2020 06: 25 New
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                Quote: lexus
                You understand what I mean.

                Yes, we have something like that with this “tight”, I mean with the display of “flight”, and most importantly hits. Privacy mode, you know
                1. Lexus 14 February 2020 06: 38 New
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                  Sergey, what could be such a “secret” in the fall of a red-hot blank in a designated circle? Only two things: 1) did not hit; 2) did not reach. Promises, statements and cartoons will not scare anyone. And, since I don’t see a kipish in the camp of the Americans (except in the Litter-Media and other "yellow" press), I draw the appropriate conclusions.
                  1. alexander1 14 February 2020 11: 43 New
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                    Yes, Trident-2 is a very good rocket, But just don’t need about 200 successful launches! Most of these launches were carried out without the arrival of warheads in the firing range. About 150 launches were carried out and read out as successful, but at the rocket the boats just left the mine shaft and were blown up at a low altitude by self-destructive equipment. If you wonder why, I can explain in more detail. In addition, many Western experts have great doubts about the quality of thermal protection of lightweight warheads. It has already been written more than once that the blocks are as light as possible, in order to place 14 BB on each Trident. But such a configuration with 2800 kg floor. load, possible by reducing the range to 7000 km and using light blocks! And these blocks are facilitated by thermal protection and no real tests of the blocks and the effect of heating in dense layers of the atmosphere on real thermonuclear special warheads have been conducted! So, we don’t need to shove and poke your trident on the Mace! I remember when, back in the early 90s, I was a student at MVTU, the press blew our ears, and ours, then 90% yellow and western, that our missiles and type 100 and p36 did not pass the entire test cycle and did not fly at all and we need to cut them and cut back! I then asked my smart people at the university and my father (he was a colonel then), and they looked at me and at this scribble as an idiot! Years passed, time put everything in its place, and now we know that weaving and 36 can work without failures after 30 years of duty. Until now, on duty, they have been extending their service life for the third time, and they have been working out all the launches almost without comment! So do not listen to idiots! And then we won’t look like them ourselves!
              2. mikstepanenko 15 February 2020 21: 31 New
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                well, only in open sources you can find dozens of videos of the arrival of American warhead missiles "to a given area"

                As Mark Twain also said, Americans are the best at drawing the target centered on where the arrow hit.
        3. Grigory_45 14 February 2020 12: 56 New
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          Quote: svp67
          The Americans are not even upgrading rockets yet ..

          yah??? And the modernization of Garpunov, Tomahawks, the creation of their new versions, the modernization of ICBM Minetman, the creation of a promising ICBM, the latest LRASM missiles, work on hypersonic missiles (as many as 4 projects)? In my opinion, you wishful thinking. USA spends a lot of money on R&D
      4. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 05: 47 New
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        Quote: lexus
        than to expect from a defense company engineering personnel for a salary slightly higher than the beggarly "lacking analogs of" weapons "on new physical principles"
        The article is not about development, but about production already developed.
        1. Lexus 14 February 2020 06: 13 New
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          Vladimir, I would love to applaud, if everything were "smooth" in my native Fatherland. And the joy of the temporary difficulties of the adversary, against the background of their own system, at least, does not bring any benefit.
          1. bessmertniy 14 February 2020 07: 03 New
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            Most Americans launched their production. It was hoped that Chinese industry would free them from the "dirty" and labor-intensive industries. And now, American enterprises lack the strength even to carry out their army orders. recourse
      5. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 14: 05 New
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        Quote: lexus
        Still, trying to create something for a bunch of dollars is incomparably easier

        very controversial. when there is a "bunch of dollars", there is no need to create something and there is a need to realize the existing "bunch of dollars". wink
  2. Gardamir 14 February 2020 05: 49 New
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    Yesterday, Rlman Skomorokhov was asked why he uses the imported word “overpower” in his vocabulary. So here is a typical example of overwork. It’s not bad for us, but worse for them.
    But in Russian he is rightly proud of his successes.
    1. svp67 14 February 2020 06: 05 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      in his vocabulary he uses the imported word "overpower"

      And why did you decide that this is IMPORT? The Russian language is full of similar words "help", "help", etc.
      1. Gardamir 14 February 2020 06: 12 New
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        I'm not talking about languages. Similar articles belittling the enemy belittle our successes.
        1. svp67 14 February 2020 06: 18 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          Similar articles belittling the enemy belittle our successes.

          You know, so far I support these articles. I will explain why. After the Iron Curtain fell, we began to talk more about our failures than about achievements. And sometimes it seems that we really are such stupid, but the same Americans are doing well and “curly”. And here are articles about their not successes and problems, as it shows that they have plenty of them. The main thing here, again, do not go to extremes, begin to hush up their successes
          1. Gardamir 14 February 2020 06: 24 New
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            So the fact of the matter is that the pendulum swung. In the late 80s, everything was bad, because we are Soviet. But since we haven’t got better, it means they’re bad.
            The rhetoric calling the Western countries capitalists and bourgeoisians is especially touching. Who are we?
            1. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 14: 14 New
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              Quote: Gardamir
              So the fact of the matter is that the pendulum swung.

              uh nooo .. everything is much worse (or better laughing how is it better for me yes )! not the pendulum swung but the whole structure together with the pendulum collapsed nafig.
              The way information is disseminated has changed, and the possibilities for censorship are greatly reduced. This is a completely new stage in information exchange!
              Quote: Gardamir
              The rhetoric calling the Western countries capitalists and bourgeoisians is especially touching. Who are we?

              what do you mean by "we"? specifically you? or country leadership? or others, such as forum users?
              I'm not a capitalist and a bourgeois wassat
              1. Gardamir 14 February 2020 14: 42 New
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                In the first part I agree about the design.
                But as for the "we". We are the whole country of the Bourgeoisie, like the USA and others are the same. So contrasting is stupid. But the country's leadership, understanding everything perfectly, sometimes uses Soviet terminology. So the people were announced that at the request of the Syrian leadership. But in fact, for the sake of the interests of the Russian bourgeoisie.
                1. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 14: 56 New
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                  Quote: Gardamir
                  So contrasting is stupid.

                  Russia and the USA? Yes. these are two capes of the country. and I suspect that in the near future Russia will begin to act as a cap country, that is, as the United States, and then Libya and Serbia will be remembered as a good tale about rainbows and unicorns ...
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  But the country's leadership, understanding everything perfectly, sometimes uses Soviet terminology.
                  I agree. it looks like a circus of freaks ... from the platform that bashfully closes the mausoleum, under the flag of the treacherous ROA, pathetically broadcasting the victory of our (Soviet, in between) ancestors over the Nazis. fool
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  So the people were announced that at the request of the Syrian leadership. But in fact, for the sake of the interests of the Russian bourgeoisie.
                  Well, here rather the interests coincided. Of course, the "suffering of the Syrians" does not bother anyone, but since the help from Syria is in the interests of Russian capital, why not? and Assad quite sincerely called. but they started to help not at all because "the Syrians are a brotherly people."
                  by the way about the "fraternal peoples" ... what has been happening to them lately? In this light, the pragmatic position of modern power sympathizes with me more than Soviet connivance to the Ukrainian Nazis. soldier
  3. rotmistr60 14 February 2020 06: 53 New
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    So it turns out that problems can arise where the world printing press is located. Whether it’s self-propelled howitzers, aircraft carriers or just light weapons, no matter how many billion-trilles can do without an adequate base and specialists. you didn’t spend on defense.
  4. rotmistr60 14 February 2020 06: 58 New
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    Gardamir
    Similar articles belittling the enemy belittle our successes
    If you noticed, then the article is based on data from the American media, in particular Defense News. Therefore, it is not we who belittle the enemy, but the enemy himself beats the bells.
  5. Vladimir61 14 February 2020 08: 23 New
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    The diapers problem doesn’t bother me at all, in part it even amuses me. More worried about the timing, time and availability of resources that we need to rearm.
  6. Svetlana 14 February 2020 09: 06 New
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    The Pentagon is faced with the unwillingness of American production to master the serial production of new products.

    In truth, Russian factories, too, for one reason or another, can’t cope with the production of new armored vehicles.
    The technology in this world is becoming more and more complicated and the demands of the army are higher and higher. And this is independent of the country.
  7. Maks1995 14 February 2020 09: 17 New
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    Ha. They write that they can’t assemble, and right there are the technical flaws of the project.

    And to assume that they did not launch the series until they revealed inaccuracies, downside?
    you must definitely muddle something terrible ...
  8. VicktorVR 14 February 2020 09: 53 New
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    Give it all to Chrysler and resurrect Iacocca.
    I am glad that not only we can not.
  9. Nitarius 14 February 2020 11: 55 New
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    LEAD USE and there sprouted its fruits ...)))) Yesterday's schoolchildren have grown to production)))
  10. Zakonnik 14 February 2020 23: 42 New
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    Ours, one might think is coping ...