Su-30MKI is an obsolete fighter. True?

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"Hindi Rus ..."



On February 30, the authoritative military publication Jane's cited an uninteresting assessment of the fourth-generation Russian multi-role fighter Su-XNUMXMKI, voiced by retired Marshal of the Indian Air Force Daljita Singh. In short, the aircraft can no longer be considered advanced, and we are talking about key performance indicators.

In general, sharp estimates of fighters, including Russian ones, are far from rare. But the recent statement is interesting for two reasons. Firstly, such high-ranking (even if in the past) persons do not often openly talk about modern technology. Secondly, the Su-30MKI is a landmark car. Perhaps this is generally the most iconic Russian combat aircraft from among modern ones.



There are several reasons again. Since the market is modern combat aviation extremely narrow, then taking into account the 250 Su-30MKI delivered to India, the car can be called a "bestseller." If we talk about the relatively modern domestic combat vehicles of this class, then compare it, in general, with nothing. Take, for example, the Su-35 (not to be confused with the earlier Su-27M). Although initially it was seen as “export”, only 24 units were put directly for export. All cars went to China; Moreover, experts believe that the reason for the deal is not so much in the aviation complexes themselves as in the AL-41F1S engine, the technology of which the Chinese desperately wanted to get, although they did not show it in public.

The second reason is the direct role of the machine in the Russian Aerospace Forces. Recall that the "Russified" version of the machine is designated Su-30SM. Now the total number of such machines has exceeded one hundred, which makes this aircraft de facto the main means for Russia to gain air supremacy. Along with a slightly newer and more technologically advanced Su-35S, which so far are fewer. Although this year it seems to be planned to conclude a new contract for 50 new Su-35S.

Better than the new two?


In the case of India, it is still more interesting: the Su-30MKI was, is and will be the basis of the air force fleet of this country. Recall that India withdrew from the fifth-generation Russian-Indian fighter program based on the Su-57, previously known as the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA). And the number of purchased French Dassault Rafale was reduced to 36 units: the "contract of the century" (MMRCA) ended, we can say ingloriously. The rest of the Indian Air Force fighters, to put it bluntly, are outdated and very strong. This applies to the MiG-29, and Mirage 2000, and MiG-21.


What do India think about their main fighter?

“Dry is certainly an excellent and powerful platform. In terms of combat load and flight range, it is of high value, but the reality is that the program was originally launched in 1997, and since then there have been numerous technological advances that require updating for the aircraft. "

- said the aforementioned Marshal of the Indian Air Force Daljit Singh.

The military believes that the two key elements in the Su-30MKI, the radar station and the electronic warfare complex, lag behind modern counterparts and require modernization. Recall that the Su-30MKI / SM radar is the N011 Bars with a passive phased antenna array (PFAR). Its basic modification was created on the basis of the N001 radar with a slot antenna array and a bypass channel for the air-to-surface mode. It must be said that now in the West even fourth-generation fighters (not to mention the fifth) are actively supplying more technological advanced radars with active phased array antennas, which, despite their high cost, provide higher reliability and efficiency of target detection. It was the new radar with AFAR that Singh proposed as an option for equipping the Su-30SM. However, without specifying a specific station and timing.

At the same time, Jane's believes that issues related to the electronic warfare complex are an even more difficult challenge, since the large size of the aircraft (provided there is no stealth technology) makes it a convenient target. The current aircraft electronic warfare kit is a variant of the Russian SAP-518 system, which can be supplemented with a radio-electronic suppression container for group protection of the SAP-14 aircraft. “The main purpose of the SAP-518 is the individual protection of the aircraft,” military observer Alexei Leonkov said in 2018. - The system works on the principle of radar detector. That is, it constantly gives distorted information to enemy locators: it reflects the signal with a delay, confuses the measurement of the distance to the object, speed and angular position. This prevents the radar from detecting targets, determining their parameters and generating the necessary data for weapon systems. ”


In general, information about Russian electronic warfare systems is contradictory and often has a propaganda character. It is also worth mentioning that in 2017, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the first time received the latest radio-electronic jamming station SAP-518SM, which is designed for the Su-30SM.

What about weapons? Earlier, the Indians had claims to the Russian R-77 missiles. Allegedly, the Su-30MKI, armed with R-77 missiles, could not effectively counter the Pakistani F-16s in February 2019. If the AIM-120 rocket could be launched at a range of 100 kilometers, then the R-77 could be launched from a distance of not more than 80 kilometers. Whether this is true or not is difficult to say, but it is known that earlier the Su-30MKI decided to equip Israeli missiles I-Derby. According to data from open sources, the flight range of the rocket is 100 kilometers. By the way, she was chosen as the main air-to-air weapon system for the Indian HAL Tejas combat aircraft.

Impact weapons Su-30MKI looks more than solid. Suffice it to recall that recently the first Su-30MKI squadron, armed with the new Brasos supersonic anti-ship missile, entered service with the Indian Air Force. If you believe the media, the rocket weighs 2,5 tons, its speed is 2,8 times higher than the speed of sound, and the firing range is about 400 kilometers. One Su-30MKI can carry up to three Bramos missiles: any Russian fighter would envy such anti-ship capabilities: at least the Su-30SM, even the Su-35S, even the Su-57.

What's next?


As we can see, the Su-30MKI aircraft does not fully meet the requirements of the XNUMXst century, so it is no longer possible to count on new contracts for hundreds of aircraft. However, what is true for Europe and the USA is not always true for less developed regions. Simply put, despite criticism of the aircraft, it is and in the foreseeable future will remain one of the most powerful fighters in South Asia.


Recall that countries such as Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, Nepal, the Maldives, Pakistan and Sri Lanka do not have fifth-generation fighters: neither their own, nor purchased abroad. At the same time, the total number of Dassault Rafale is not enough for the regional "revolution", although the machines can speak their word in the context of a local conflict. By the way, maybe the Indians are right, limiting themselves to 36 "Frenchmen." Apparently, neither India, nor Pakistan, nor any other country in the region are interested in the big war.
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  1. +6
    February 14 2020
    Yes, everything has already been "shoveled" more than once or twice!
    The "problems" are known, and the ways of modernization too. The plane will serve as it should, if used properly, according to the mind.
    1. +1
      February 15 2020
      three brahmos on indian su30? Well, at least show me.
      1. 0
        February 15 2020
        Quote: Horde1
        three brahmos on indian su30? Well, at least show me.

        Question to the "feathered". What and how can / should arm the aircraft.
        I simply indicated that the aircraft meets the needs of the WF of most countries and will remain so for a long time.
      2. -1
        February 15 2020
        ... three brahmos in Indian su30? Well, at least show me.

        Based on the characteristics of the rocket in the article - this is Bramos-mini.
        It is lighter per tonne, flies faster - 2,8M, range like 400 km, and yes, the Su-30MKI carries 3 Bramos-mini. hi
    2. -1
      February 15 2020
      You're right! A skilful pilot will be able to shoot down a wunderwaffe on a corn truck. With a certain amount of luck.
      1. 0
        February 15 2020
        Quote: bandabas
        You're right! A skilful pilot will be able to shoot down a wunderwaffe on a corn truck. With a certain amount of luck.

        It is unlikely that only luck will be enough. Need still hopeless stupidity of his opponent! Of course, if the enemy does not fly on the Wright brothers airship or plane.
  2. +5
    February 14 2020
    The machine will continue to serve for more than a dozen years with timely modernization.
    Moreover, the Indians are ordering new Su-30 machine kits from Irkut for assembly at the HAL plant.
    1. +2
      February 14 2020
      There was an upgrade option: the general upgrade of avionics is made by the Italian Leonardo,
      The radar is set by the Israeli Elbit. But Russia did not allow.
      Here, as it were, "neither to myself, nor to people." Russia has no components for such an upgrade.
      1. +6
        February 15 2020
        Quote: voyaka uh
        the general upgrade of avionics is done by the Italian Leonardo,
        The radar is set by the Israeli Elbit. But Russia did not allow.
        Here, as it were, "neither to myself, nor to people."

        Correctly done. You will suggest to some Mercedes or BMW to change the electronics to a more kosher one. Let's see what place you are sent to.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Russia has no components for such an upgrade.

        You certainly know better from Israel what in Russia is and what is not.
        1. +6
          February 15 2020
          The F-35 of the Israeli Air Force has the same kosher electronics. And Lockheed Martin didn’t send Israeli clients anywhere.
          1. +2
            February 15 2020
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            The F-35 of the Israeli Air Force has the same kosher electronics. And Lockheed Martin didn’t send Israeli clients anywhere.

            You, my friend, do not be confused. You can install electronics on your car even from the Belarus tractor. All business will be removed from the guarantee. Well, or will not be removed if the relationship with the dealer is like "Vasya-Vasya". And all the rest are sold branded avionics "Lockheed Martin"
            1. +2
              February 15 2020
              That's the joke, that Israeli electronics are completely installed and not on Israeli cars.
          2. +2
            February 17 2020
            The F-35 of the Israeli Air Force has the same kosher electronics. And Lockheed Martin didn’t send Israeli clients anywhere.

            do not pull the owl over the globe as usual. "All"The kosher changes are mainly software, allowing the adaptation of the original weapons to the fighter's SUV. And the EOTS itself and the BOI and FPO on-board computers remained original.
            The Jews still slapped their EW station and IWP. But this, by analogy with the aforementioned Mercedes, is the same as changing the radio laughing
            1. -2
              February 17 2020
              Yeah, radio, on-board computer, and control system. And yes, no changes.
              1. +1
                February 20 2020
                on-board computer

                on-board computer? Nowhere is there evidence of the replacement of the original digital computer with Israeli handmey. In view of the fact that the BTsM is not only responsible for the weapons system (which, in general, was the goal of the Jews), but also for controlling the flight of the FMC through the MCDU. In addition, it also controls the situation in the air and displays information to the pilot. Replacing such a unit is 70% of the functionality of the aircraft. Do you even understand that in order to replace the FMC you need to know all the aerodynamics and kinematics of the movement of the aircraft in the environment. It took the Americans first years to calculate this programmatically, and then on demonstration samples. Do you think that you can just take one part and replace it with another. Your Adir just at takeoff will cease to obey control.
                management system

                control system with what? weather, shekel or the world? laughing
                1. -1
                  February 20 2020
                  Aircraft control system. Avionics. Control computer. Made in Israel. Therefore, when adopting the Adirov, there are much fewer problems than with other versions of the F-35.
                  1. +1
                    February 20 2020
                    Aircraft control system.

                    I wrote everything to you above. If you think that FMC changes like an electric kettle simply by switching outlets, then you are deeply mistaken. Any flight control computer is created for a specific aircraft. Taking into account all the parameters of its flight, including: aerodynamic characteristics of the airframe, engine operating modes, mechanization, pumps, power supply, type and operation of all sensors monitoring the operation of the system and its individual elements. To write a program, Jews would need to sit in LM for a couple of years, plus receive all F-35 technical documentation on hand.
                    1. -1
                      February 20 2020
                      Jews have been actively collaborating with Lockheed Martin since 1979, with the purchase of the F-15. Even then, Israeli avionics were inserted into cars for Israel. One little-known company from Israel actively participated in the development of the F-35. Elbit systems. Israel produces some non-critical components for the F-35. Wings, for example. Anyway, Israel is the only state that has received permission to integrate its own equipment in the F-35.
                      1. +1
                        February 20 2020
                        Yes, no need to write stamps. I am not going to question the possibilities of the Jews. Avionics - the term is too detailed. This concept includes a mass of instruments of execution and control. Take for example a simple OLS. There are 7 main blocks, of which at least two (!) Are responsible for management and processing. But the OLS itself is part of the firing complex, which in turn is part of the weapons control system.
                        Wings is not your flight control system. There is an exact general drawing, detailed, with all nodes and junctions, seats for installing mechanization, etc. There is an indication of the composition of the metal sheathing, all strings, spars and ribs. There is no need to reinvent the wheel and model something new. Therefore no need to compare
                      2. -1
                        February 20 2020
                        Yes, thanks for reminding me. The F-35 also integrates Israeli weapons. Purely to understand the topic - the Israeli industry participated in the development of military aircraft both abroad and in Israel itself, mass-produced fighters, transport aircraft, reconnaissance vehicles, passenger aircraft, UAVs and have a drop dead experience in modernizing equipment.
                      3. +1
                        February 20 2020
                        Yes, thanks for reminding me. The F-35 also integrates Israeli weapons.

                        it was the integration of Israeli weapons in the F-35go SUV that was the task upgrades for Avir
                        Israeli industry participated in the development of military aircraft both abroad and in Israel itself, mass-produced fighters

                        but who argues that little, but experience, all the same, the Israelis have in the field of aircraft manufacturing. But I repeat - replacing the on-board computer that controls the flight requires a programmatic description of all flight modes. To accomplish this, you need to have the entire base of operation of each of the elements of the aircraft completely in numbers - from fuel valves, mechanization actuators to the flight profile in various modes. Any mistake will lead to the development of static instability and to such phenomena as flutter, flow stall, transition to stall and slip.
                        And in order to foresee all this, the developer should have a mathematical model with the results of behavior in all modes, a whole set of drawings, a list of equipment, full test reports and much more SPECIFICALLY ON F-35. Not on any airplane, in principle, but on the F-35 !!!. Could LM provide this? I really, really doubt it
                      4. 0
                        February 20 2020
                        Do not hesitate, for the sake of the advertising that Lockheed Martin has from the Israeli Air Force and this is not possible.
                        By the way, a little Israeli experience in the aircraft industry is already 50 years old, if not more. Around the time when they began to build according to the stolen drawings Mirage-5. By the way, created on the instructions of Israel.
                      5. +1
                        February 21 2020
                        By the way, a little Israeli experience in the aircraft industry is already 50 years old, if not more.

                        the word "small" does not mean duration, but rather depth. Because there are many airlines with a history in the world, but not everyone will be able to build a modern multifunctional fighter or a strategic missile carrier, either technologically or financially. I think that's why, after tinkering with Lavi, the Jews realized the complexity of the problem and turned to the purchase of the F-16
                      6. 0
                        February 21 2020
                        A multifunctional fighter in Israel was quite produced for itself. Even two - "Nesher" (an unlicensed copy of Mirage 5, quite successfully shot down MiGs) and "Kfir". And the Lavi project was closed for financial reasons, in terms of technical, everything was quite normal, but a country the size of the Kursk region and absolutely no minerals simply had no money for production, and the Americans refused to participate in financing. But the specialists from the project have created a high-tech sector in Israel that brings billions of dollars every year.
                        PySy. F-16 Israel began to buy much earlier than the closure of the Lavi project.
                      7. +1
                        February 21 2020
                        A multifunctional fighter in Israel was quite produced for itself. Even two - "Nesher" (an unlicensed copy of Mirage 5, quite successfully shot down MiGs) and "Kfir"

                        let's not draw here the types of weapons that existed under King Pea. If in multi-role fighters of the period 60-70s, the functionality was distributed as follows: 65% of the characteristics of the aircraft (acceleration and flight), and 35% are the capabilities of its avionics, now it is exactly the opposite. Therefore, to compare the complexity of creating your Nesher 70gg release with the creation of an MFI equal to F-22/35 or Su-57 is like comparing a file and a CNC machine.
                        And the Lavi project was closed for financial reasons,

                        and done right. It is a reasonable decision. All the same, it would be an average performance machine of the F-16 level, no breakthroughs in technology. In view of the low workload of production, the cost of R&D would never be lost.
                      8. 0
                        February 21 2020
                        So in fact avionics are quite a production of Israel. Radars, control systems, guidance systems, electronic warfare systems - we produce all this. Ever since the days of "Nesher" and "Kfir". Including for the same "Lockheed Martin".
                      9. 0
                        April 12 2020
                        I think that they did not make sense to invest in Lavi. Americans are seriously pushing prices in such cases. In addition, they successfully stuffed avionics with Lavi on their versions of the 16s. Galil, for example, was preferred by the M-16 for the same reasons, it was banal to produce it themselves, but usually they do not refuse such advantageous offers.
            2. -1
              February 17 2020
              Yeah. Radio, on-board computer and control system.
      2. 0
        February 15 2020
        There are components, only the price ...
  3. +7
    February 14 2020
    February XNUMXth authoritative Jane's military publication cited an uninteresting assessment of the fourth-generation Russian multirole fighter

    You can not read further. Especially in light of the fact that India is an industrial power ... yeah
    1. 0
      February 14 2020
      Well, why is there any whim for your money. If a lot of money they put a little squirrel there
      1. -1
        February 14 2020
        put at least a squirrel there

        Arrow! Yes
    2. +7
      February 14 2020
      Quote: NEXUS
      You can not read further.

      But I read it and didn’t understand anything. And so I have questions.
      1. When you, I mean the Indians, signed a contract for the purchase of this model aircraft, what were you guided by? Option A - the car is good (at that time) and you were satisfied with both the airborne radar and the onboard electronic warfare and R-77 missiles, Option B - did you get into a vise and forced to sign a contract? I think, all the same, option A.
      2. Everything once becomes obsolete. In connection with the rapid development of technology. That radar and electronic warfare and R-77 may be a little outdated. So what's the problem? Order modernization and you will be happy.
  4. -17
    February 14 2020
    Ara what are you, arra!
    1. +10
      February 14 2020
      Quote: Yujanin
      Ara what are you, arra!

      belay Well, what is it for? belay
      1. +1
        February 14 2020
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Yujanin
        Ara what are you, arra!

        belay Well, what is it for? belay

        Apparently already celebrating Valentine's day or just the end of the work week.
  5. -5
    February 14 2020
    As we see, the author gave his opinion in tune with the opinion of the Hindu warlord for an axiom, not even the idea to challenge it. ..
    1. 0
      February 14 2020
      Quote: Thrifty
      As we see, the author gave his opinion in tune with the opinion of the Hindu warlord for an axiom, not even the idea to challenge it. ..

      I also noticed that Ilyusha "Legat" knows how to make an extract of shit about Russian technology, he is just special in this and is in tune with guys like - voyaka uh /
  6. +1
    February 14 2020
    You can upgrade: AFAR, new engines, avionics. But not for five rupees.
    If you make an elephant out of a fly, it’s for the Indians.
    1. +1
      February 14 2020
      Quote: knn54
      If you make an elephant out of a fly, it’s for the Indians.

      Or to Pugacheva lol
      "
      I wanted to make an iron -
      The elephant turned out suddenly.
      Wings like a bee
      Instead of ears - flowers. "
  7. -2
    February 14 2020
    Quote: Thrifty
    not subject to even thought to challenge her. ..

    As not contested, but progress does not stand still and without timely modernization, efficiency is reduced
  8. -4
    February 14 2020
    Indian Marshall, it sounds so funny to me.
    1. 0
      February 14 2020
      Quote: Lamata
      Indian Marshall, it sounds so funny to me.

      Yes, to dig there and you will find the Generalisimus laughing
  9. +3
    February 14 2020
    Really?

    The truth is different ...
    Only truth can kill!
  10. +7
    February 14 2020
    The title is intriguing, tex about life, without intrigue, the aircraft is 20 years old and it requires modernization, which is normal! This same plane, not wine, does not get better with age! At the end of the article, TOTAL: in the event of a conflict in India, 36 Rafaley decide, not 250 Su30x !!!! I didn’t understand the conclusion ... what started, for health, finished for the pack
  11. 0
    February 14 2020
    EW complex can be bought from Belarus - Talisman or Heather. Their manufacturers write that they are superior to Russian complexes ... Or they can be taken from the Israelis.))) There is money, you can choose. And the radar with AFAR can be taken from third-party manufacturers. Hindus are ready to sell)).
    1. +1
      February 15 2020
      Their manufacturers write that they are superior to Russian complexes.
      Yeah, and I write that I box better than Mike Tyson in his best years.
      Prior to the statement of this same marshal, it was generally believed that MKI fly only with Israeli EW containers. Uncle Misha, known to many (aka Voodoo, Breeze, Ben-Yitzhak, did not drive everyone to drive), wrote that he would believe in Russian electronic warfare only when he saw a Russian container under the MKI. Well, it happened wink
      And combining radar with existing avionics is a rather complex and lengthy process.
  12. 0
    February 14 2020
    Hindus gradually lead to the idea that they urgently need to buy an F-35. In any case, the retired Air Force Marshal Daljitoy Singh is clearly talking about this. Well .. additional, the American increase in the pension of any marshal will please. laughing
    1. +1
      February 14 2020
      But the Russian will not please?
      What is the problem then?
      1. 0
        February 14 2020
        Quote: Avior
        But the Russian will not please?

        I don’t even know .. Apparently already eaten .. Still asking.
        1. +3
          February 14 2020
          If this is the problem, then what is the problem to flip?
          Or isn’t it?
    2. 0
      February 14 2020
      The F-35 will not be sold to the Indians, so the attempt to weave the "hand of the State Department" is not very successful.
      But they will upgrade the Su30 (about this), with the most likely share of the pie will most likely be Israel (hanging aiming containers, radar with AFAR, air combat missiles and planning bombs) and France (also hanging aiming containers, electronic warfare, cockpit).
      1. 0
        February 14 2020
        Quote: God save the Tsar
        The F-35 will not be sold to the Indians, so the attempt to weave the "hand of the State Department" is not very successful.

        However, reports about the purchase of American air defense systems by India, flashed recently. The states are indulging in India in full, they really need a counterbalance to China on our continent.
        1. 0
          February 14 2020
          Of course they do, and Russia does the same.
          However, the States are trying to sell F-16s and F-18s, even promise to partially localize their production in India.
          As a counterweight to China, they are not too interested, so they sell planes for full price, without any benefits for the political situation.
          1. -3
            February 14 2020
            Quote: God save the Tsar
            As a counterweight to China, they’re not too interested,

            Ha ha ha 16 times .. Just as a counterbalance to China, this thoroughly corrupt megastran is interesting to them. F-35 they even promised Poland, although they do not hide the squeamish attitude towards the Poles. Technologies, of course, will not promise, but for that, and the cries of the purchased marshals, they say that the advance payment will otherwise perish! laughing
            1. +1
              February 15 2020
              Poland is a member of NATO, and more recently also the main pillar of American policy in continental Europe, they would not have sold the F-35, and even the boards from the canceled Turkish supplies. India is an important economic partner for the United States, but far from a reliable ally. When the "lights" will start selling to everyone, including India, but this will not happen very soon. I do not deny that this "general" can disseminate the information that he was paid for (however, I do not deny the opposite, because there is a grain of logic in his words and the "drying" really needs to be fairly modernized), but it is America and the "hand of the State Department" interested in articles of this kind the least. After all, if they pump su30, then the F-16 or F-18 will definitely not be bought.
      2. +4
        February 14 2020
        Russia’s permission is needed for all this.
        1. -2
          February 14 2020
          You do not need any permission, just the planes would be removed from the Russian warranty service, however, they are already serviced by the Indians themselves, and the Indians have long been customizing at their discretion.
          1. +4
            February 15 2020
            They need replacement engines. This is the warranty service.
            1. +3
              February 15 2020
              Components for Indian production of al-31 Russia will not stop selling in any case, it was not enough to lose one of the last solvent customers.
  13. +2
    February 14 2020
    That's right .... and the Su35C is already starting to demand modernization.
  14. -3
    February 14 2020
    If crooked hands and weak brains, then any plane is bad.
  15. +11
    February 14 2020
    Recall that the Su-30MKI / SM radar is the N011 Bars with a passive phased antenna array (PFAR). Its basic modification was created on the basis of the N001 radar with a slot antenna array and a bypass channel for the air-to-surface mode.

    Here the author is completely mistaken:
    - HEADLIGHTS appeared on H011M, and H011 was without HEADLIGHTS;
    - There is nothing in common between H011 (M) and H001;
    - At the time of the appearance of H011, H001 contained neither a slot antenna nor a bypass channel;
    - An upgrade option for H001 with a bypass appeared after the creation of H011;
    - Н011 "didn't go anywhere", the Su-30MKI was equipped with Н011М, Н011 can be considered as its basis;
    This does not apply to the issue of obsolescence, but it is very bad to publish it!
    1. 0
      February 14 2020
      Quote: Hexenmeister
      This does not apply to the issue of obsolescence, but it is very bad to publish it!

      Yes, "Legate" is on the drum for him just to sketch, and then rake it yourself, but you will not be able to choke.
  16. Eug
    -1
    February 14 2020
    Upgrade to the export version of the Su - 57, but first of all, Russian cars should be modernized. Given the pace of technological development, the capabilities of weapons and on-board equipment should increase dramatically (or not very dramatically) every 7-10 years. Personally, I have hope for the transition immediately to ROFAR.
    1. +1
      February 14 2020
      Quote: Eug
      Personally, I have hope for the transition immediately to ROFAR.

      I would like, but judging by what is heard on this topic, then to the nearest ROFFAR, 10-15 years. And this is even very optimistic. It seems to me.
  17. -6
    February 15 2020
    Yes better F-16 .F-35.
  18. 0
    February 15 2020
    India has RVV-AE, not R-77. Let them take RVV-SD and do not worry
  19. 0
    February 15 2020
    The standard situation is a retired military man who held a considerable post. Connections remained, why not engage in lobbying for the commercial interests of a certain company? Why react on the topwar to this?
  20. 0
    February 15 2020
    Jane's published an uninteresting assessment of the fourth-generation Russian multi-role fighter Su-30MKI, voiced by retired Marshal of the Indian Air Force Daljita Singh. In short, the aircraft can no longer be considered advanced
    - Well, straight Captain Evidence. What did you guys like? When was the plane created? Naturally, he needs modernization, thanks, gentlemen, Indians, his eyes opened, otherwise we don’t know.
    It has long been asking for a replacement on the airplane, avionics and motors at least. This is a normal phenomenon, there is no such technology that could live the third dozen and never become outdated, in no way lose quality in front of competitors.
  21. AAK
    0
    February 15 2020
    I do not know the intricacies of the Indian contract for the Su-30MKI, if the upgrade can be performed only with our permission, then the Indians can be indignant. If they have the right to upgrade purchased and paid aircraft themselves, then this is their problem ...
  22. 0
    February 21 2020
    If you believe the media, the rocket weighs 2,5 tons, its speed is 2,8 times higher than the speed of sound, and the firing range is about 400 kilometers. One Su-30MKI can carry up to three Bramos missiles


    7.5 tons excluding load on specific nodes. No way. A Su-35 with 3 KAB-1500 bombs was photographed in flight, but the possibility of placing ammunition weighing more than 2 tons on some other nodes besides the fuselage is doubtful.
  23. 0
    February 25 2020
    Such a rotting West bought the politicians and generals of India. I heard there and the Americans are on the way expecting to recapture Russia from 70% of the package of military orders
  24. 0
    February 29 2020
    Quote: voyaka uh
    There was an upgrade option: the general upgrade of avionics is made by the Italian Leonardo,
    The radar is set by the Israeli Elbit. But Russia did not allow.
    Here, as it were, "neither to myself, nor to people." Russia has no components for such an upgrade.


    Mr., what country are you from? I wang that you live in Israel ...

    In fact, Irbis and Squirrel are the best radars in the world. And the Elbit crafts for a long time to reach their level.
  25. 0
    February 29 2020
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    Do not hesitate, for the sake of the advertising that Lockheed Martin has from the Israeli Air Force and this is not possible.
    By the way, a little Israeli experience in the aircraft industry is already 50 years old, if not more. Around the time when they began to build according to the stolen drawings Mirage-5. By the way, created on the instructions of Israel.



    Israel has no production of jet engines for fighter jets. And all his craft radars are crafts for F-16 aircraft. So if you delve into the details, then the Jews should not have an understanding of what and how in a heavy fighter.
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    March 28 2020
    Questions not only to the author:
    1. All fighters carry an odd number - SU-27, 33, 47, 57, MIG-21, 23, 25, 29, 31
    Why is the SU-30 called a fighter, or why was it assigned 30?
    2. "Brahmos" - Russian-Indian missile. Why is the SU-30MS not armed with the Brahmos?

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