How to turn a Su-30 fighter into a “Super Dry”: a “recipe” from Malaysia

Years after Malaysia acquired Su-30MKM fighter jets, it became obvious that since then there have been serious technological advances that require modernization of aircraft.

A powerful fighter, but there are complaints

The Royal Air Force (RMAF) must decide on the need to improve its air fleet, despite the fact that the Russian-made fighter is an excellent and powerful platform

- writes Malaysia flying herald, offering his recipe for introducing innovations that will turn a fighter into a "Super Dry."

In total, RMAF purchased 18 aircraft of this type, which were created on the basis of the Su-30MKI model operated by the Indian Air Force. According to the publication, the aircraft purchased by New Delhi were equipped with Russian, Indian and Israeli systems. However, on Malaysian fighters, Western equipment was used instead of technology from Tel Aviv.

Now it is time to review this package. According to the designated publication, modernization should affect four key elements - weapons, a laser-guided guidance unit, a radar station and an electronic warfare complex.

What to get rid of

The Royal Air Force has already been able to adapt the new R-77 missile from Vympel Design Bureau, however, “it is important that they [Su-30MKM] be equipped with autonomous cruise missiles” - such as Brahmos. The [French company] Thales Damocles laser guidance system is also close to obsolescence, so it should be replaced with the newer Thales TALIOS, which are already on the Rafale fighter jets ordered by India.

The radar from the scientific research institute of instrumentation type H011M Bars, which is just a passive electronic scanning system, should be replaced by AFAR, which will provide the crew of the Su-30MKM with a higher level of situational awareness

- indicates the publication.

The current electronic warfare complex from the Russian KNIRTI model SAP-518 should be supplemented with a jamming module SAP-14 ["Tarantula", electronic warfare of group protection], which "will make Malaysian Flankers a formidable electronic warfare platform." And this is despite the fact that the Royal Air Force does not have a separate aircraft specialized for this role.

Installing Pylon X [apparently one of the holders of local design] will allow the use of laser-guided [American] Paveway II bombs. The same pylon will make it possible to place the tactical aerial bait ADM-141 [US production, false target simulating a cruise missile]. Combined with the [Russian] X-31 anti-radar missiles, this will seriously enhance the ability to suppress air defense and missile defense systems.

Comments

[iouris]

Lucky people are: they are warm and have a lot of palm oil, which is very fond of in the northern country.

[bars1]

Malaysia what has to do with it? Problems in the "northern country" where palm oil is added anywhere.

[iouris]

Quote: bars1

What does Malaysia have to do with it?

And no one blames her: she is lucky. Driving to someone who is lucky.

[Lexus]

"Recipe" from Malaysia

No thanks! Pop your palm oil yourself.

[voyaka uh]

In short: replace all avionics, starting with the radar.
This is half the cost of the aircraft.

[Victor_B]

And eat the fish and don’t choke on the bone!

If I were to put Nikanor Ivanovich’s lips to Ivan Kuzmich’s nose, take some swagger like Baltazar Baltazarych’s, and perhaps add Ivan Pavlovich’s further burden to it, I would immediately decide.

[iouris]

Quote: voyaka uh

This is half the cost of the aircraft.

And if the plane is cheap?

[dauria]

This is half the cost of the aircraft.

Warrior, again you are for the old. These times, when they sold an apartment for a VCR, remained in the 80s. Now the aluminum case of the smartphone is more expensive than the filling.

[bars1]

Good recipe. The leadership of the RF Ministry of Defense needs to follow it for the Russian Su-30SM, with the exception of the French sighting and navigation container, Pylon X and ADM-141, well, and Paveway, of course.
We also have such a niche as a more powerful engine from the Su-35S that they want to install on the new modification of the Su-30SM

[seti]

In addition to a more powerful engine and new avionics, it would be nice to think about a long-range anti-ship missile based on Brahmos or our oxyx. Even one on this fighter if several of them are already a lot of power.

[bayard]

It is better to wait for the Zircon, its air launch has been working out since 2012 (and even the first such launch in 2012 was successful). When the new version of the Su-30 appears, the Zircon should already be in service.
A "Brahmos" with an air launch, it is a light version for the Indians and for export. She also has a range of 300 km.
For surface targets, there is already a "Dagger" on the MiG-31, there were already 30 of them half a year ago. Having such squadrons for each direction is already a big deal. And there will be another 30 pieces. Tu-22M3M modernized for the carriers of the "Daggers" and "Zircons".
Performance MiG-31 - every 1,5 hours with a recharge.
And let the Su-30 naval aviation engage in air targets, reconnaissance and all sorts of little things, on which the X-35 \ 31 is enough.

[seti]

The range of "brahmos" is actually 400 km. Yes, there are "daggers" and there are aircraft carriers 20 MiG-31K and several converted Tu-22M3M for 4 missiles each. But you must understand - there are too few of them. Repairs, technical maintenance does not increase their number. "Dagger" and in the long term "zircon" are good for large targets - it is too expensive weapon to spend on small things. In addition to the actual aircraft carriers, there are a very significant number of escort ships. And how many of them will reach the target? There are also transport ships. We need a really massive blow. What? Su-30SM is ideal - there are many of them, they are designed for two pilots, they can work in conjunction with the A-50. Each of them is capable of carrying 3 (!) Missiles of the "brahmos" type; the rocket weighs 2,5 tons, its speed is 2,8 times the speed of sound.
And in your 1.5 hours will happen ..

[bayard]

I heard / read about the lightweight air-based "Brahmos" that the Indians themselves declared its range of 300 km. 400 - 500 km - range of land / ship. And I also heard (maybe they have already changed their minds) that the light version of "Brahmos" by the RF Ministry of Defense was not interested. Apparently they are waiting for something more serious.
About the fact that for half a year as 30 MiG-31s ​​modernized for "Daggers", I heard just half a year ago. Can your information about 20 pcs. available and more accurate, but in any case, by the end of this year, they should be in service with at least 30. Apparently 10 for each operational direction: Pacific Fleet, Northern Fleet, Black Sea Fleet (work in the Black Sea-Mediterranean direction and the Middle East).
Tu-22M3M when they still will be, but still they will.
There are already Su-30SMs in naval aviation, but they also have an air defense function (as a rule, one squadron specializes in providing air defense for the Fleet, and the second - strike functions).
The Su-30 is armed with such anti-ship missiles as the Kh-35 (subsonic, range up to 260 km.) And Kh-31 (supersonic direct-flow in the pure version of the anti-ship missiles, as well as the anti-radar version).
Consider the actions of the fleet against the enemy’s AUG (or KUG) in a separate operational area. Based on the available, rather limited forces - 10 MiG-31K and regiment (two squadrons) of Su-30 SM.
The task is to destroy the enemy’s ACG at a distance of 1000 - 1500 km from the base.
10 MiG-31K and 12 (squadron) of Su-30SM strike are participating in the strike.
The first blow is delivered by the MiG-31K 10 "Daggers". We estimate the probability of hitting a target as ... 70% ... even 60%.
Three missiles hit the AB, the other three - the largest warrant ships - cruisers and destroyers. The aircraft carrier is out of order, it no longer launches airplanes, three warrant ships, if they stay afloat, are also out of order and are fighting for survivability.
MiG-31 went to reload. We give them not 1,5 (full-time), but 2 or even 3 hours.
The second wave at low altitude enters the link (4 pcs.) Of the Su-30SM with X-31 in anti-radar design, 4 missiles on each, total 16 X-31. Which attack from a distance of about 200 km. surviving warrant ships, who still have radar. Suppose there are still 4 large ships left in the warrant (cruiser \ destroyer), which means that there will be 4 pieces for each. X-31. With a high degree of probability, the remaining ships go blind and begin to repair the damage.
At about the same time, the launch of their X-35s is carried out by the remaining 8 Su-30 SMs, each with at least 4 X-35s (but maybe 6) on board, from about the same distance - 200 km.
What does the second Su-30SM squadron do?
Provides cover for attacking groups.
After the strike, the Su-30 SM also goes to reload, and the cover squadron remains in the air (it can take a long time to barrage) and insures against a possible attack by the surviving enemy aircraft (suddenly some of them were in the air during the strike) and a strike from surviving escort ships.
By the time of the landing approach, the Su-30SM and MiG-31K strike squadrons are again flying into the air, because at least 2 hours have passed since their first take-off, and delivering a second - final (?) Strike to the enemy’s ACG. The probability of hitting in this strike will be estimated at 80 - 90% for counteraction against ship’s air defense is no longer expected, and the missile is very difficult to intercept ... many consider it practically unbreakable by modern means of ship’s enemy air defense systems.
Then there was an additional reconnaissance and safety approach of the Su-30SM squadron with an updated ammunition.

Here is a spherical horse in a vacuum. Without taking into account the counteraction of the enemy’s basic aviation and the possibility of the enemy delivering a preemptive strike to our bases.
From which it follows that it is desirable to have at least two Su-30SM regiments, MiG-31 squadrons and at least 4 units of Tu-22M3 \ M3M in each operational direction. In a ready state.
While this is not there, but soon we can count on such forces in our main areas - Northern Fleet, Pacific Fleet, Black Sea Fleet.
Indian “Bramos” -light, maybe it would not hurt, but it looks like the rate is still on something else. Perhaps it is he - "Zircon".
And of course, it would not hurt in our fictional operation A-50 or even A-100., But it looks like their number is so small, and the modernization of the A-50s is going so ... traditionally that ... in lighting the air situation we will rely on ZGRLS type "Container" in the West, and soon (as they say) and in the East.
And if by the time of the operation we have considered, the Zircon is in service, then the decision of the BZ will look in general as a mere beating of babies.
One cannot hide from the "all-seeing eye" of the "Container" either at a distance of up to 3000 km, or even at a distance of 5000 - 6000 km (the second jump).
Long-range missiles (Dagger, Zircon) disable all large ships of the warrant and the AB itself, and then from a distance of about 200 km. they will methodically pursue less expensive missiles. If required, a long-range missile strike can be repeated.
And a similar operation is possible in principle now ...

[Sergey39]

Sukhoi should answer: Any whim for your money!

[Pavel57]

Hindus have long been putting in the cost of the life cycle of a major modernization after half their life.

[Elephant]

And they’re doing it right.

[Ggc1]

Dude from the ground staff, the one in the green vest - Oscar for his acting skills and +100 to the power of a fighter)))

[kit88]

This dude is called "Airplane Aviation Technician". Starley post.

[Well done]

Local Kulibins are now fantasizing. Not really climbed, or what. We have the 27th in the ranks, and those who wish to get to know him are equal to zero.

[sanya_sergant]

So we have it. We just have to touch the old man - the sons will immediately draw a Su-35S and a Su-34 with the question "What do you want?"

[Lelik76]

"The current electronic warfare system from the Russian KNIRTI model SAP-518 should be supplemented with the SAP-14 [Tarantula", electronic warfare group protection] module, which "will make the Malaysian Flankers a formidable electronic warfare platform." And this is despite the fact that the RAF does not have a separate aircraft specialized for this role. "
They write all sorts of nonsense. SAP-14 is a detached container that can be hung on any of the 18 purchased Su-30MKM, without any reference to SAP-518. The Indians have long been in operation.

[Hexenmeister]

Well, the words "radar from the Scientific Research Institute of Instrumentation of the N011M" Bars "type, which is just a passive electronic scanning system," do not add respect. To begin with, let them figure out the classification of the radar, and do not use the "bird language" of experts from the Internet.

[Zaurbek]

And when will we offer AFAR for 4th generation fighters? Consumers already do not want to buy airplanes without this option.