“Once we were friends”: in the USA they remembered the Russian sailor who died 150 years ago


Russian sailors in 1863



At the cemetery in Annapolis, located on the way to the US Naval Academy, is the grave of Nikolai Demidov. He was a Russian sailor who died on American soil 150 years ago, "when Russia was one of Washington's few friends." USNI News recalled these times.

According to him, in 1864, during the Civil War in the United States, Europe took a neutral position. But there were fears that Britain and France would support the Confederates because these countries needed cotton supplies from the South.

Russia was one of the few European powers to stand on the side of President Abraham Lincoln in support of the Union

- notes the publication, indicating that during the decades preceding the war, Russia has established strong relations with the United States and became the first country to receive the status of the most favored nation in 1832.

Given the danger of European intervention in the internal conflict, Tsar Alexander II sent two squadrons to the American shores. The crew of one of the ships was a sailor Nikolai Demidov. A week after arrival, he and his friends went to one of the bars of Annapolis, where he was shot dead during a fight.

Lincoln commissioned him to report on the progress of the incident investigation. While it was going, the Russian sailor was solemnly buried in the presence of American officers. At the same time, the chapel was filled to capacity.

The Russians seemed satisfied with the course of the investigation, as well as with the respect that Demidov was given during the memorial service.

- writes USNI News.

During the departure of sailors to their native shores, the mayor of the city noted that the Russians brought them a “good sense of international brotherhood”.

As the publication indicates, “the role of Russia in the Civil War was largely forgotten,” which is why it’s indicative of this история, and the preserved memory of this sailor. At the same cemetery is the grave of John Paul Jones - "American father fleet". He was out of work after the American War of Independence, so he joined the Russian Navy, where he became Rear Admiral Pavel de Jones, fighting in the war with Turkey.


At the grave of Nikolai Demidov
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  1. shoroh 13 February 2020 22: 23 New
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    If not for their greedy elites, our peoples would always be friends.
    1. Kronos 13 February 2020 22: 27 New
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      The capitalists of Russia are no less greedy, only the United States is robbing other nations and the Russians are
      1. shoroh 13 February 2020 22: 32 New
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        Do not confuse the highest stage of capitalism - imperialism, where the hegemon sucks the juices from other states and modern Russian capitalism.
        1. Range 13 February 2020 22: 36 New
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          Pigvinostan has always been ungrateful trash. They have only their base interests, and the rest is tinsel for them.
          1. Kronos 13 February 2020 22: 56 New
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            So this is an ordinary policy. There is no place for gratitude;
            1. Range 13 February 2020 23: 00 New
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              You have now described the Anglo-Saxon mentality and it is bad that some are trying to adopt it.
              1. Kronos 13 February 2020 23: 03 New
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                It’s not at all by the same principle that politics has always been in all parts of the world. Like, for example, the Chinese who quickly forgot that having made the USSR for them by attacking the USSR several times, Turks just like that and so on, if you read historical works you will find this everywhere
        2. Rzzz 13 February 2020 23: 20 New
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          For modern Russian capitalism, Russia is also a "different state."
        3. Freeman 13 February 2020 23: 52 New
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          Quote: shoroh
          Do not confuse the highest stage of capitalism - imperialism, where the hegemon sucks the juices from other states and modern Russian capitalism.


          If you have not noticed, then modern Russia has also entered the stage of imperialism (the war in Syria is a confirmation of this).
          Moreover, she entered in a peculiar way, as in her time Mongolia.
          As you know, they wrote about Mongolia that it "entered socialism, bypassing capitalism."
          Modern Russia - "entered imperialism, bypassing capitalism"
          IMHO.
          1. Ka-52 14 February 2020 04: 40 New
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            If you have not noticed, then modern Russia has also entered the stage of imperialism (the war in Syria is a confirmation of this).

            don't compare horseradish with your finger. In Syria, the Russian Federation does not capture, does not subjugate the territory of this state with the help of the army (in fact, our army is not there, and the assistance is rendered to a legitimate and legitimate government). Not trying to make Syria his colony. Syria has long been a partner since the days of the USSR. And your interpretations in the spirit of Nezalezhnians and others like them about “imperial manners”, about “annexation” and “seizure of territories” in Ukrainian forums. They will understand and support you there.
            1. Sadam 14 February 2020 05: 26 New
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              in discussion you will be more convincing until you get personal.))
              government it is such a business. Najibullah in Afghanistan to help you.
              In your opinion, are we again protecting the international duty (or are they democracy)?
              about the Qatari gas pipe to Europe through Syria for me it is somehow more logical.
              1. Ka-52 14 February 2020 09: 31 New
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                In your opinion, are we again protecting the international duty (or are they democracy)?

                The Qatari pipe may be one (just one of many) of the reasons for the participation of the Russian Federation, but I do not understand your logic in trying to squeeze this argument with the discussion above. Now, if pursuing its ambitious plans to lay hydrocarbon traffic through the territory of a sovereign state, Russia would begin military operations on its territory against a legitimate government (hindering these plans) - then I would agree with you. As in the case of Bulgaria - if they do not want to let the Turkish stream through its territory - Russia sends troops, eliminates the legitimate government and solves its economic problems. But in Syria everything is exactly the opposite. Qatar, the Saudis with US support, are trying to overthrow the Assad regime, which is hampering their strategic plans for entering Europe. Having not received approval, they first began to sponsor the opposition, and when they drove it to the root, they began to import scum from all over the Middle East
            2. Freeman 14 February 2020 09: 07 New
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              Quote: Ka-52
              If you have not noticed, then modern Russia has also entered the stage of imperialism (the war in Syria is a confirmation of this).

              don't compare horseradish with your finger. In Syria, the Russian Federation does not capture, does not subjugate the territory of this state with the help of the army (in fact, our army is not there, and the assistance is provided to the legitimate and legitimate government). Not trying to make Syria his colony.


              In modern imperialism, the use of military force to control foreign territories is in last place.
              In the first place is economic control, then political.
              Military control only reinforces and strengthens the first two methods.
              For example, our troops in Afghanistan strengthened the local political regime.
              And our PMCs in Africa reinforce the economic interests of Russian companies (the recent cancellation of "Soviet debts" to African countries in exchange for the possibility of developing useful resources).
              Military control comes to the first place only if the possibilities of using the first two methods are exhausted.
              1. Ka-52 14 February 2020 13: 05 New
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                In the first place is economic control, then political.
                Military control only reinforces and strengthens the first two methods.
                For example, our troops in Afghanistan strengthened the local political regime.

                absolutely wrong interpretation and attempt to drag by ears. The entry of troops into Afghanistan has complex prerequisites. Starting with the fact that it was the government first Taraki, and then Amin persistently asked for the entry of Soviet troops. Our decision was born very hard. The old people had many doubts about this step. There was no smell of imperialism there. On the scales was precisely the help of the brotherly revolutionary people (and nothing else), and on the other hand, the desire not to let the CIA get in there and put its puppet government in it.
                The purely imperialist manifestation was the Gulf War. When the oil interests, intersecting with the global political, decided the fate of Iraq. The same thing with Gaddafi, who stood in the way of oil traffic to France.
      2. Anchonsha 14 February 2020 00: 31 New
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        And you go and try to find out how you pity yours and how they reckon with the American people. You are an eccentric, it always seems to us that everything from strangers is always better, like another's wife.
    2. rich 13 February 2020 22: 45 New
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      Tsar Alexander II sent two squadrons to the American shores.

      As part of the first, under the flag of Rear Admiral Lesovsky sent to New York, there were 6 ships, the number of crews was 3000.
      The squadron, sent to San Francisco (commander - Rear Admiral Popov), consisted of 6 ships and 1200 officers and sailors.
      1. seti 14 February 2020 00: 17 New
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        Probably then supporting the SGA, we made a mistake. The SGA began to strengthen, actively annex other territories that were poorly located, enjoyed discord in Europe and intensified and intensified. Then there was Alaska. And now there is an unsolved problem.
    3. Chaldon48 14 February 2020 02: 43 New
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      Alas, for those climbed to the very top there is nothing sacred, there are only constant interests, money and power, everything else serves only as a cover.
    4. Romka47 14 February 2020 13: 18 New
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      This was the main error of the propaganda of the USSR, we were told "the Americans are good people, the capitalist power is simply evil" and in fact the people are always worthy of a ruler, they supported everybody with a bang, and dissenting people appear only when there are more coffins than in WWII (I’m about Vietnam and Hippies). people to match, with whom is there friends? the most frostbitten invaders of Europe, the fugitives of the whole world, Negro slaves and the raped slaves of the Indians mixed up, and then they shout that they are "exceptional", to be friends with them? and it’s okay, but someone asked them they want to be friends with us?
  2. Plantagenet 13 February 2020 22: 39 New
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    "American music, cinema, computers, food from McDonald's form the world of aspirations and dreams of most young people on all continents. After the production of the aerospace industry, the American entertainment industry is the number two export commodity.
    Young people around the world are more likely to wear T-shirts with the image of the American flag than to burn this flag on the streets. In Iran, fundamentalists have banned satellite dishes and American films, but videos are snapping like hotcakes on the black market.
    People are fascinated and repelled by American popular culture. They want to belong to her and at the same time reject her. Young men with guns wear American jeans and sneakers, and at rallies they demand an end to the dominance of Americans.
    The United States proceeds from the naive idea that American values ​​should be accepted by other countries. Other countries are annoying. Both Europeans and Asians are unhappy with the arrogance of the United States.
    Public opinion believes that the main goal of the Americans is to dominate the world.
    Some people are irritated by the very behavior of the Americans, their readiness, without asking anyone, to do what they think is right: "They can do everything, but we don't?"
    It seems to many that Americans deliberately cause trouble to the rest of the world. "

    Leonid Mlechin "Empire of Terror"
    1. Range 13 February 2020 23: 03 New
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      The situation is rapidly changing in the opposite direction. Now the United States is not rolling ... Therefore, they went to war with pillows, sanctions are called.
  3. rich 13 February 2020 22: 59 New
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    At the cemetery in Annapolis, located on the way to the US Naval Academy, is the grave of Nikolai Demidov. He was a Russian sailor

    He was a sailor of the flagship of the squadron of Rear Admiral Lesovsky corvette "Varyag". In honor of this ship, the famous cruiser was named.

    Officers of the corvette Varyag, USA, 1863-1864

    Corvette "Varangian"
    The case was built of oak and mountain pine. The corvette had a displacement of 2156 tons, a length of 68,3 meters (length between perpendiculars 222 feet), a width of 12,13 meters (with a skin of 39 feet 8 inches) and an average draft of 5,6 meters (aftershtechnem 19 feet 3 inches; foreshtechnem 17 feet 3 inch). The cost of building the hull was 400 166 rubles 41¾ kopecks
    The mover was sails and one two-bladed propeller in the lifting frame
    Full sailing armament of the frigate type was arranged on three masts (carried direct sails) [. The foremast was 24,38 meters (80 feet) high and the main mast 25,33 meters (83 feet 1 inch). The rods were 0,25 meters (10 inches) in diameter. Under the sails, the corvette developed a speed of up to 10 knots, and with certain winds up to 13.
    The propeller (25 foot pitch) was propelled from the steam engine. The machine was made in England at the Penn factory in 1854 and was originally installed on the frigate Polkan. She developed a capacity of 900 liters. with. (360 nominal hp). The estimated cost was 165 rubles 119 kopecks. Steam boilers for the corvette were manufactured at the Kronstadt Shipping Plant. The price for boilers and machine corrections was 73 rubles 127¼ kopecks. Smoke was removed from the furnaces through one telescopic pipe located in front of the main mast. When using sails, it developed. Under the pairs, the corvette showed a speed of up to 706 knots. Although the old mechanisms were installed, the reports of the Maritime Department noted: “for that he had excellent maritime and sailing qualities, discovered during long service in long voyages” [10] [11]. The voyage range under steam at a speed of 3 knots was 4 nautical miles, and was limited by the coal supply [10] When using sails, the voyage duration was limited only by the supply of provisions.
    The armament consisted of ten 196-mm smoothbore bomb guns, five rifled 152-mm (6 inches) guns, four 4-pound rifled guns, one 60-pound gun No. 1 (long-barreled) and sixteen 60-pound guns No. 2 (short-barreled)
    Team and habitability
    According to the staffing of 1863, the corvette team consisted of 2 headquarters officers, 8 chief officers, 11 midshipmen and cadets, 23 non-commissioned officers, 286 ordinary naval departments (sailors), the Marine Artillery Corps, 1 officer and 1 conductor, Naval Navigators Corps 1 officer and 1 conductor, Fleet of mechanical engineers of the fleet 2 officers and 1 conductor, 2 civilian mechanics, 1 clergyman; only 340 people [8]. At the time of leaving Revel in 1863, the team consisted of 26 officers and 295 lower ranks
    The team was given fresh meat and corned beef 50 to 50 on the corvette. Those who carried the watch from 1 night to 5 in the morning were supposed to have chocolate. In the tropics, stokers relied on 4 cups of lemonade per day. For the prevention of diseases when swimming in the Pacific Ocean were distributed: wild garlic, pepper sauce, garlic and quinine
  4. Magus 13 February 2020 23: 06 New
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    Russia was one of the few European powers to stand on the side of President Abraham Lincoln in support of the Union

    Why did you just remember in the USA that Russia supported you. Why are you all trying to put us sticks in wheels everywhere and everywhere.
    1. reservist 14 February 2020 11: 28 New
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      Quote: Magus
      Why did you just remember in the USA that Russia supported you.

      in World War II, Lend-Lease deliveries were ...
      and now yes - they don’t need competitors ...
      1. Romka47 14 February 2020 14: 14 New
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        But let’s not let Lend-Lease be considered heavenly manna, we paid for the Lend-Lease only in the 90s, for every drop of oil and every shoe in the blood we paid everything, to remind the Germans about oil supplies?
        1. reservist 14 February 2020 15: 11 New
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          yes, they paid, but only in the 90s ... of course, not manna from heaven, but help with Lend-Lease, whatever one may say, helped ... they would have fought for a year longer, how many more people would have died ...
          But on the same transporters traveling to Murmansk, didn’t the American sailors die?
          1. Romka47 15 February 2020 19: 24 New
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            Please understand me correctly. I understand your message perfectly.
            But at the same time, they also sold oil to the Germans, and the question remains open: would we even need a land lease if they did not help them? that is, without their help it would be difficult, but without their help the enemy could have a hard time and would not have come? these are open questions and they will forever remain, the bottom line was the Lend-Lease we needed and they gave, we need to be honest and admit it, but still, if ...
            1. reservist 17 February 2020 12: 30 New
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              Quote: Romka47
              these are open questions and they will forever remain, the bottom line was the Lend-Lease we needed and they gave, we need to be honest and admit it, but still, if ...

              googled what they write about Standard Oil deliveries of oil to the Germans through Spain ... it seems that the Rockefellers wanted to spit on the ban of the American government on trade with companies associated with pro-Nazi countries ...
              I’m asking not for a “joke”, but for “clarifying the big picture” before / at the beginning of the Second World War ... what do you think of the German-Soviet trade agreement of 1939? here is the impression that countries whose heads met in Yalta in the 45th, in the 30s struggled to push their future allies in the anti-Hitler coalition with the Germans ...
              1. Romka47 18 February 2020 09: 16 New
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                And here, as they say, “I have nothing to cover”, I didn’t answer a couple of days because I decided to study the issue in more detail,
                What do you think of the 1939 German-Soviet trade agreement? - I think that it is necessary to consider it in the light of the previous (at least 10 years) Soviet-German trade relations, if the Sovsepm dryly, briefly, very firmly helped each other arm themselves.
                1. reservist 18 February 2020 12: 28 New
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                  Quote: Romka47
                  must be considered in the light of the previous (at least 10 years) Soviet-German trade relations

                  I agree, it is possible / necessary and not only the Soviet-German ...
                  Soviet Russia was in trade isolation, losing World War I under restrictions on armament of the army / navy, i.e. military-technical cooperation between the two countries that fell “under sanctions” after the First World War as if “itself suggested” ...
                  and in the 38th Britain and France already signed declarations of mutual non-aggression with Germany and without the USSR divided Czechoslovakia between Germany, Poland and Hungary ...
                  1. Romka47 18 February 2020 12: 32 New
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                    Totally agree with you hi
  5. Prahlad 13 February 2020 23: 13 New
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    I believe that the time will come and we will become friends again!
    1. Blue fox 13 February 2020 23: 25 New
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      Alas, colleague, this is only possible as an alliance against aliens or another threat to all of humanity (xs, what the current epic with the coronovirus will result in).
      1. voyaka uh 13 February 2020 23: 54 New
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        When China’s superpower tries to chop off the Russian Far East,
        Who will Russia turn to for military assistance?
        Iran and Venezuela will not help. Only to the USA. And there will be a Lend-Lease-2.
        Then a short period of friendship, fellow and then again "damn american
        the imperialists surrounded ... " sad
        1. Gray brother 14 February 2020 00: 22 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Who will Russia turn to for military assistance?

          In order for China to attack Russia, purely hypothetically, the United States must first cease to exist.
          Therefore, this option disappears.
          Yes, and they will not climb to Russia - we will sound them vigorous.
          1. rich 14 February 2020 00: 53 New
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            voyaka uh (Alexey): When the superpower China tries to chop off the Russian Far East, who will Russia turn to for military assistance?

            Naturally, we will turn to Great Israel for help, so that they send us their very best commander - the legendary voyaku uh. The Chinese, as they learn about it, are immediately afraid and everyone sits captive. yes We will let half of the Chinese go home, and the second half of voyaka uh, as a reward, will take them to our Middle East wink
        2. Cowbra 14 February 2020 00: 30 New
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          When China’s superpower tries to chop off the Russian Far East,
          Who will Russia turn to for military assistance?

          To your army and navy - no one has ever helped us! We helped - it was, but to us - nobody ever
          1. Gray brother 14 February 2020 00: 44 New
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            Quote: Cowbra
            To your army and navy - no one has ever helped us!

            The Chinese are more likely to hit the Indians in alliance with Pakistan. The fact that they will attack Russia is the wet dreams of the Americans and their sixes, in fact, China and its region have enough territorial threes, and the only country with which they peacefully resolved all issues is Russia just)))
            1. Cowbra 14 February 2020 01: 11 New
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              Well that's another question, you're right. Whoever won the war between China and Russia - the winner of the vanquished will survive for very short time in any situation.
        3. Romka47 14 February 2020 14: 22 New
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          Yes, the joke is that you can not especially be friends with them, you can buy from them in friendship and enmity.
  6. Lexus 14 February 2020 00: 21 New
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    Russia was one of the few European powers to stand on the side of President Abraham Lincoln in support of the Union

    Oh, sighted ... She still sniffs.
    During the departure of sailors to their native shores, the mayor of the city noted that the Russians brought them a “good sense of international brotherhood” ..

    Just in gratitude for the “warm welcome”, in 1867, Alexander II “awarded” the Americans with Alaska. There is no mention of that tsar, but the lordly habits of "some" remained ...
    1. Cowbra 14 February 2020 00: 33 New
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      Otherwise, it would have been chopped off for free during the Triple War. We even had to burn Petropavlovsk, although there they put lime on the neck - but we could not hold him back then. Alaska - much less
      Quote: lexus
      Alexander II "awarded" the Americans to Alaska.
      1. Lexus 14 February 2020 01: 00 New
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        We even had to burn Petropavlovsk, although there they put lime on the neck - but we could not hold him back then.

        What? What year was that? They turned everything upside down.
        Otherwise, it would have been chopped off for free during the Triple War.

        No, well, if you talk like that, it’s better to immediately give up / “profitably” to sell. Impotence is always easier to justify than to treat. Remember, fear of teeth - “minuet not dance” / to deprive yourself of all the pleasures when communicating with a special female /.
        1. Cowbra 14 February 2020 01: 09 New
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          Togo oh. During the Crimean War. The assault is repelled, the city is evacuated and eliminated, learn the materiel. Do you think then the battleship Petropavlovsk was called for fun?
          And to give up, not to give up - take it on your own, so as not to fall when walking. Siberia has not yet been mastered, for some reason they climbed into Alaska.
          1. Lexus 14 February 2020 01: 27 New
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            Hello, "materiel". From the moment of the evacuation of Petropavlovsk 12 years passed until the “donation” of Alaska. It would be a desire, even at that time everything can be corrected and adjusted. Only kings, with the exception of a few, always
            Balls, beauties, footmen, cadets,
            And Schubert's waltzes, and the crunch of French rolls ...
            Love, champagne, sunsets, alleys ...
            (C) “How fascinating evenings are in Russia”, song, group “White Eagle”

            were much closer and more expensive. The rest was not enough.
            1. Cowbra 14 February 2020 01: 35 New
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              What can be fixed, what? After half a century, the troops could not really take them by land to Kvantun, they tell you - Siberia was not really mastered until now !!! Alaska - a no-no, but a prize. sooner or later it would be grabbed, but we cannot protect it. Like the French Canada
              PiSi: and with a sequence of events, you are right, I lied)))
              1. Lexus 14 February 2020 01: 58 New
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                Well, that’s the same ... British Columbia at that time was no more populated by Russian Alaska, but for some reason the Americans did not encroach on it. And, besides, there is Jack London’s wonderful novel “The Sea Wolf” and films based on its plot, where at the time of the described events, 1893, there is such a phrase: “You can’t enter the Aleutian Islands - in the Bering Sea, Russian watchmen open fire without warning " So that...
                The troops were brought to Liaodong. Only the "court" command screwed up, and the rearmament of the army and navy "sprayed" in the "pockets". Almost like now.
                1. Catfish 14 February 2020 04: 01 New
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                  Hi Alexey! hi And I'm more interested in as a result of which our sailor suffered. Most likely there was a banal drunken brawl, and our gavriks were not aware of how the Americans decided to conduct these showdowns. Now no one will ever know who the instigator was and who was to blame, and it may well be that our guy just caught someone else's bullet. The authorities released everything on the brakes and buried with dignity, well, they did the right thing. Only here to drive the kids to the grave of the deceased in a drunken brawl ... a dubious example for the younger generation.
                  1. Paranoid50 14 February 2020 09: 55 New
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                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    Only here to drive the kids to the grave of the deceased in a drunken brawl ... a dubious example for the younger generation.
                    The thing is ... request
                2. reservist 14 February 2020 11: 53 New
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                  Quote: lexus
                  Brittanya Colombia at that time was no more populated by Russian Alaska, but for some reason the Americans did not encroach on it.

                  maybe they have not forgotten how they fought with the British and local militia in Canada ...
  7. Campanella 14 February 2020 01: 14 New
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    The rotten states and the world have made rot! Ghouls. It is clear that the people there are kept for idiots as well as in modern Russia. Here, some enlightened by the propaganda of the Russian nouveau riche are pouring mud on Soviet socialism and do not want to notice the bestial mug of this capitalism, which has replaced socialism. It’s a pity such worthless little people with stuffed sausages and toilet paper!
  8. Gennady Fomkin 14 February 2020 03: 59 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    When China’s superpower tries to chop off the Russian Far East,
    Who will Russia turn to for military assistance?
    Iran and Venezuela will not help. Only to the USA. And there will be a Lend-Lease-2.
    Then a short period of friendship, fellow and then again "damn american
    the imperialists surrounded ... " sad

    American love? laughing There is no freedom that was there.
  9. the finish 14 February 2020 08: 22 New
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    What courageous faces the sailors ...!
  10. lvov_aleksey 15 February 2020 20: 13 New
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    let's not confuse history and politics, I hate both of them, I thank God that there is someone else who remembers our contribution to the world order. For example, Alaska ... (30 silver coins for rent, which were never received).