The head of USC gave a preliminary assessment of the damage from the fire at Admiral Kuznetsov

The head of USC gave a preliminary assessment of the damage from the fire at Admiral Kuznetsov

Damage caused by the fire on the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier cruiser will exceed 300 million rubles. This was announced by the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation Alexei Rakhmanov.


Answering journalists' question about the deadlines for the commission on the cruiser and the damage caused by fire, Rakhmanov explained that the work of the commission on the cruiser continues, but preliminary results can already be summed up.

No, there is no final figure. The commission continues to work. Given the fact that the work has tightened up ... I think that it will take us some time to reconcile ... I will not scare or delight anyone - there are definitely no 90 billion, but I also think that 300 million (rubles) ) we will not get off

- he said.

Earlier, Rakhmanov said that the fire that broke out at the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR did not cause critical damage, this will not affect the delivery of the ship to the customer.

Recall that on December 12, 2019, a fire broke out at the ongoing repair and modernization of the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr, the area of ​​which reached 500 square meters. meters. Fire extinguishing took almost a day. A preliminary reason is that the spark from the welding gets into diesel fuel. During the fire, 14 people were injured, and two servicemen were killed.

According to the USC plans, the transfer of Admiral Kuznetsov to the customer is scheduled for 2022 year.
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  1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 01 New
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    Unlucky ship ...
    Right from birth. Coincided with the collapse of the Union. The policy of "young reformers" - the staunch enemies of their country.
    Well, the "wise help" of all sorts of American "economist-consultants" in uniform.
    As a result, Kuznetsov was, in fact, abandoned, just rotting for no one, and at the same time he ate almost half the money for the Northern Fleet. (exaggerate, but a lot)
    1. Housing 13 February 2020 19: 13 New
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      Quote: Victor_B
      Unlucky ship ...

      Well, yes, of course, if some such articles have been rampant for what year already .. And not one why they still want to upgrade it and for what .. Why do you think this is happening?
      1. 210ox 13 February 2020 19: 20 New
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        And at the same time during modernization, and even more so during combat use, all kinds of emergency arise.
        1. Oleg kubanoid 13 February 2020 19: 23 New
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          well, what do you want ... we don’t even have docks for such ships .. right now in Murmansk they’re doing something like that. Well, again, one dock to the country .. it will not be enough. Bay and Star I do not take into account
          1. Cowbra 13 February 2020 19: 39 New
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            It wasn’t so much before. No wonder they were built in Nikolaev, despite all the hemorrhoids with straits.
        2. Housing 13 February 2020 19: 25 New
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          Quote: 210ox
          And at the same time during modernization, and even more so during combat use, all kinds of emergency arise.

          And why would it all be wink ? you are already a marshal ...
          1. 210ox 13 February 2020 20: 30 New
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            I am a stock sergeant. It was. Now written off cleanly, the sixth dozen. And these "epaulettes" ... Yes pah on them. fellow
          2. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 22 New
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            And why would it all be? you are already a marshal ...

            Well, if you take root on the forum, then in a few years, too, will rise to the rank.
            Just do not make enemies unknown, like mine.
            Whole 2 pieces.
            Minusators.
            That's about half an hour ago, I received 2 minuses under ALL posts. And so almost always. Regardless of the topic. I believe that for a couple they have already put 200 pieces to me or more.
            Sometimes one is not, but today both were here.
            So under this post 2 pieces will be.
            1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 35 New
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              Right now I have 20 posts, so 30-40 minuses are guaranteed only from these two.
              Well, and someone else will smack polemics. But this is normal.
            2. Roman1970_1 13 February 2020 23: 37 New
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              And what, minus the deduction from the salary?
              I'll put a plus to add
              1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 23: 38 New
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                Quote: Roman1970_1
                And what, minus the deduction from the salary?

                Worse!
                They put in a corner! laughing
            3. pmkemcity 14 February 2020 04: 58 New
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              Quote: Victor_B
              Well, if you take root on the forum, then in a few years, too, will rise to the rank.
              Just do not make enemies unknown, like mine.
              Whole 2 pieces.
              Minusators.
              That's about half an hour ago, I received 2 minuses under ALL posts. And so almost always. Regardless of the topic. I believe that for a couple they have already put 200 pieces to me or more.
              Sometimes one is not, but today both were here.
              So under this post 2 pieces will be.

              Will we take a comrade on the plus side? I made my "tranche."
              1. Victor_B 14 February 2020 05: 06 New
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                Quote: pmkemcity
                Will we take a comrade on the plus side? I made my "tranche."

                (Wiping a mean tear ...)
                Forever grateful!
                And if without jokes, then minuses do not affect life at all.
                Just minuses come from discussions, polemics, disagreements, but there are TWO (not three not one) critters who “stuff” almost every day and stupidly for 15 minutes almost under all posts (including absolutely harmless ones) mold minus all topics at once.
                Just look at this topic and see everywhere at least two minuses.
                And if you read the post, then there are impeccable arguments.
                1. Demon_is_ada 14 February 2020 21: 05 New
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                  And if without jokes, then minuses do not affect life at all.

                  Yours is definitely not affected, but it’s a means of manipulating the minds of people, those who are obsessed with likes, and unfortunately a lot of them, begin to firmly believe that there is an alternative, even if in a post the absolute and only TRUE which is not in our power, the ability to at least somehow change, for example, a running machine heavier than air will fall without an engine ... but alas, somewhere in the depths of the subconscious mind there is a hope that all of you are lying axes flying ...
      2. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 20 New
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        if some such articles are rampant what year already

        And what is bad or unusual in this particular article?
        On the contrary, a refutation of all rumors about 90 giga rubles. for repairs after the drowning of the dock and fire.
        Well soon
        I won’t scare or delight anyone - there’s definitely no 90 billion there, but I also think that we won’t get off with 300 million (rubles)
        about order 300 rubles is brewing, several times.
        1. Housing 13 February 2020 19: 29 New
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          Quote: Victor_B
          And what is bad or unusual in this particular article?

          Yes, of course a normal article, for some "viewers" ..
          Quote: Victor_B
          On the contrary, a refutation of all rumors about 90 giga rubles. for repairs after the drowning of the dock and fire.

          We believe you, calm down .. AUGs of Russia do not shine, am I writing correctly?
          1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 45 New
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            AUGs of Russia do not shine, am I writing correctly?

            But why? There is a lot of talk. Discussions. Statements of the first persons.
            As soon as a decision is made WHAT Russia needs AUGs (aircraft carrier shock groups), i.e. what goals we will hit, and they will begin to build.
            I believe that it is precisely with the goal setting that they cannot decide.
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        3. Magog 13 February 2020 20: 17 New
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          about the order of 300 rubles
          The standard form of a positive number a is its representation in the form a⋅10 ^ m (m is degree 10), where 1≤a <10, am is an integer; the number m is called the order of the number a. The order of the number 300 is 000, since 000 = 8⋅300 ^ 000. The number 000 3.0 10 also has an order of 8. Including, no "bullshit" - all in garlic!
          1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 20: 23 New
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            Well, why this school course?
            Who?
            If I write instead of 90 Giga rubles 9 ^ 10, will this greatly reassure you or become clearer?
            I can (I have every right) write and 90 Megarulbey.
            1. Magog 13 February 2020 20: 34 New
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              Just a diligent student (DA Medvedev - does not count, he apparently had a "2" in mathematics) such your phrase is incomprehensible. If you mean the order of the number 300 million - this is the number 8, if you mean the order equal to "300 million rubles", then this is nonsense (it should just be an integer, not "rub"), if the replacement of the words: , "approximately", "approximately", then this is the third meaning of what has been said - in such words one must express an idea, agree! Why clog up language and concepts? Maybe that's why we live that the country is ruled by humanities, lawyers, twosomes?
              1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 20: 38 New
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                Well, you understood very well (or not?) That the word ORDER did not refer to the NUMBER, but to the verbal construction "order 300 million. "A synonym for the word about.
                1. Magog 13 February 2020 20: 41 New
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                  I understand, but I am against such a "mess" in the language. And when it will be necessary to indicate the really "order" of the number, how will you explain it? And so many examples of language clogging and concepts ...
                  1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 20: 46 New
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                    About my posts, I still do not agree.
                    But the fact that journalists often use the concept of ORDER incorrectly, then it hurts your eyes.
                    They can easily give out: "More on orders"when it comes to 2-3 times.
                    But how scientific!
                    (minus not mine)
                    1. Magog 13 February 2020 20: 55 New
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                      Well, you yourself suffer from this! My ear hurts when the same humanities journalists say “huge number” instead of “huge number / magnitude.” Here in the VO in the comments it was somehow: “two-fuselage” instead of “two-beam” scheme (by the way, how is the “two-body” "or" two "?), which was also met" you understood correctly everything, why find fault? ".
                      1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 20: 59 New
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                        You still somehow relate to grammar.
                        On VO, as a whole, the people are quite competent, and military issues too (well, of course, the Israelis and the races flies to shkolota), and sometimes someone will write on a drunken bench, 100 words in general with no words.
                      2. Magog 13 February 2020 21: 05 New
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                        I can’t "take it easy" here - after all, it's almost a public letter. I’m very worried if I admit some kind of “overshot” or illiteracy in the word. Sometimes I notice, but there’s no way to fix it (turned off the computer, reloaded the page). Inconveniently and embarrassingly. So, it happens, you’ll write nonsense even without this grammar ...
                      3. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 13 New
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                        I also really do not like my eyeglasses.
                        After publication, they are better visible for some reason.
                        But here, in VO, you can fix it in a few minutes.
                        I constantly use it, and you can add along the way.
                2. Magog 13 February 2020 21: 42 New
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                  A joke in his youth was (as an example of "vague concepts"). In 1986 they asked me to check the products from Ukraine for radioactivity (I was in our research institute the commander of the GO reconnaissance group). He took it, immediately went to the city SES. I show, explain to the management the task. Bring me to the "responsible" for the radio monitoring of products. He opens the cabinet and shows me the DP-5V devices and it is so important: "Here we are in control!" I told him: "These? Products ?!" When I began to explain to him that it is impossible to measure the dangerous background of products with these due to lack of sensitivity, he took out the instruction paper of the Ministry of Health and said: “Well, it’s dangerous to eat over 50 MkR / h! And the device can measure from 5 MlR / h. " I told him: "The paper is" micro ", and the device is" miles "!" Answer: "What is the difference? It's the same thing!"
                  1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 44 New
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                    Quote: Magog
                    It is the same !

                    Mind does not understand Russia ...
                3. pmkemcity 14 February 2020 05: 02 New
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                  Quote: Victor_B
                  About my posts, I still do not agree.
                  But the fact that journalists often use the concept of ORDER incorrectly, then it hurts your eyes.
                  They can easily give out: "More orders of magnitude" when it comes to 2-3 times.
                  But how scientific!
                  (minus not mine)

                  And if so - tore up a poison! And he rubs his hands pretty.
  2. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 27 New
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    And not one why they still want to modernize it and why

    Well here is easier.
    Our leadership can not determine the GOALS for which we need just such an AB as Kuzya.
    Initially, it was positioned as AB KUG air defense (not to be confused with AUG, where AV is EVERYTHING in itself!), For example, to block the entire Barents Sea from the base PLO aviation.
    But here is one full-fledged KUG that, in fact, almost the entire Northern Fleet is.
    1. Magog 13 February 2020 20: 22 New
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      And for what purposes is UDC laid? In some "Syria" or "Libya" what is needed more than "Kuzya" or UDC?
      1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 20: 25 New
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        Quote: Magog
        And for what purposes is UDC laid? In some "Syria" or "Libya" what is needed more than "Kuzya" or UDC?

        Depending on the tasks.
        It may (and probably should at times) go together.
  3. Lamata 13 February 2020 20: 32 New
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    Though it’s about to have, or we have a great fleet, and flyers need practice. But the ship is not lucky, then the boilers, then the crane fell, then in a fire.
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  • Mar.Tirah 13 February 2020 19: 27 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    Unlucky ship ...

    Yes, it’s not a matter of the steamboat. We can’t even get out of the peak of the collapse of the country. And it doesn’t take a year for someone to burn or sink. It’s only Putin’s papers are good, the economy is on the rise. But in fact, not very labor relations, there are no new MTbases, old capacities are being achieved, labor discipline, experienced personnel and salary stimulation leave much to be desired.
    1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 29 New
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      It’s not the boat.

      Yes, stop clinging to a simple phrase.
      The military has such a term "unlucky" and really there are unlucky instances.
      Well, the superstitious people are military!
      1. Mar.Tirah 13 February 2020 19: 35 New
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        Quote: Victor_B
        Yes, stop clinging to a simple phrase.

        Yes, I’m not clinging to the word. We talked to each other on the air and just called each other “parachutes,” I sometimes say that now .. It's not offensive. Are the submarines that were burning during the repair also unlucky or not? .This labor discipline is lame and safety precautions, coupled with imperfect modern equipment.
        1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 19: 37 New
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          Quote: Mar. Tira
          We talked to each other on the air, and just in conversations, called each other "parachutes

          I thought the word "unlucky."
          And so yes! He is the most kondovy real STEAM!
          Well, the world?
          And fires during repairs will never stop anywhere! Alas...
          1. Mar.Tirah 13 February 2020 19: 39 New
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            Quote: Victor_B
            Well, the world?

            drinks But superstition really is. Especially among sailors.
          2. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 21 New
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            Quote: Victor_B
            And fires during repairs will never stop anywhere!

            Repair and fire always go hand in hand.
            1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 24 New
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              Repair and fire always go hand in hand.

              Just fires almost every day, but they turn into a fire, probably one out of a thousand.
              1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 38 New
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                Quote: Victor_B
                Just fires almost every day, but they turn into a fire, probably one out of a thousand.

                From a thousand, or not from a thousand, but they happen, and I happen to be where you never expect. There were such cases that they told whom they did not believe, but this is life. Where the fire protection of the plant is correctly set, with their firemen who constantly monitor the ship, there is less chance of burning out.
                1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 40 New
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                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  Where the fire protection of the plant is correctly set, with their firemen who constantly monitor the ship, there is less chance of burning out.

                  Just a fire watch next to the welded one.
                  This is our everything!
                  On Kuz (allegedly) sparks somewhere in there, fell heavily down.
                  1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 23: 48 New
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                    Just a fire watch next to the welded one.
                    This is our everything!

                    Fire Watch, this is a crew member. And there should be a firefighter of the factory with fire fighting equipment, a fire line under pressure. And after welding, watch keeping also continues. Under such conditions, even fires were rare. I experienced it in my own skin.
                    1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 23: 54 New
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                      Well, a highway, it should always be under pressure.
                      But imagine firefighters (MES) near each welder ... On AB! In dock repair?
                      I don’t have enough imagination for this.
                      Apparently small.
                      To be honest I do not know the organization of work. But in the energy sector I can not argue.
                    2. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 00: 29 New
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                      Quote: Victor_B
                      But imagine firefighters (MES) near each welder ... On AB! In dock repair?

                      I’m talking about abroad where I had to stand, there is no Ministry of Emergencies, there are firefighters of the factory, if two welders work in this compartment, then one fireman. In the other compartment, the same thing. You have to pay for security, do not want to pay control yourself, and you have three sailors and a boatswain, and how you will provide 10 points for 24 hours. Burn or not burn. As the Arabs of Inshal say.
    2. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 20 New
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      Well, the superstitious people are military!

      I do not know how the military, but the sailors are superstitious to the point of horror. I never went to sea on the 13th, well, God forbid, on the 13th and on Friday. I won’t even go by train, or by car.
      1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 22 New
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        And all the astronauts, even women, go to the "wheel", and in Plisetsk necessarily Tanya is written on the launch vehicle. wink
  • tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 14 New
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    at the same time, almost half the money was consumed for the Northern Fleet. (exaggerate, but a lot)

    Yes and not really that you were mistaken.
  • iouris 13 February 2020 23: 55 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    Unlucky ship ...

    How much can this be confirmed?
    1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 23: 59 New
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      Quote: iouris
      How much can this be confirmed?

      And what suggestions?
      Sanctify? So it’s probably been consecrated for a long time, but the church onboard, probably, there is a mosque.
      Put on needles so that it does not produce events?
      Or maybe put an intelligent commander? With a start-up and a boatswain.
      So with the Americans, too, what happens only with theirs is AB.
  • PSih2097 13 February 2020 19: 11 New
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    they lifted up, 30KK - 60KK, and now 300KK - it’s time to get to the top of the committee operas for questioning (moreover, with the use of a half-tart with river sand / sugar sand, well, as an option, the interrogation using chemistry), otherwise it will soon be 3KKK rubles for the restoration of the consequences of the fire ... (K - Kilo = 1000)
    Quote: Victor_B
    Unlucky ship ...

    TAVKR cannot be a steamer initially, it has a different power plant ...
    And three persons are to blame for everything - Ustinov, Gorbachev and Yeltsin, well, the current celestials added problems.
    1. 210ox 13 February 2020 19: 23 New
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      Okay labeled with EBN ... And what about Dmitry Fedorovich?
      1. Ponchik78 13 February 2020 19: 46 New
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        He did not like big ships. On the whole, the situation with aircraft carriers in the USSR is by no means the least of his "merit."
    2. Rzzz 13 February 2020 19: 23 New
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      Quote: PSih2097
      cannot be a steamer initially, it has a different power plant ...

      Which one? The most steamy.
    3. Avior 13 February 2020 19: 28 New
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      Here is a little question in terminology. There is such a version
      Description Waggon is a vessel equipped with a reciprocating steam engine or a steam turbine as a traction engine. A steamer driven by a steam turbine is called a turbo ship, or, more precisely, a steam turbine ship - in contrast to a gas turbine ship - a vessel equipped with a gas turbine and which is a type of ship

      Even sailors sometimes use this word as the common name for all ships
    4. Victor_B 13 February 2020 21: 07 New
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      Quote: PSih2097
      TAVKR cannot be a steamer initially, it has a different power plant ...

      And here from this place in more detail please!
      Do not let die a fool!
      I thought that if on a ship / ship water is turned into steam, and then turbines or steam engines rotate this steam, then this is PA-RO-GO.
      I will greatly disappoint you, but on this basis all nuclear submarines - steamboats!
      And there are also motorized rods, diesel electric rods, but as you can correctly name pr. 61, there is probably a gas pipe (there is no such letter in the word!) And this, for sure, will not be STEAM PACKS.
      But sailors will still call them steamboats.
      1. PSih2097 13 February 2020 22: 07 New
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        I will greatly disappoint you, but on this basis all the nuclear submarines are steamboats!

        what is the primary propulsor in a nuclear submarine? and why is it called a nuclear submarine?
        1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 09 New
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          Quote: PSih2097
          the primary propulsor in a nuclear submarine which

          ENGINE at the Premier League - propeller!
          Engine - STEAM TURBINE! Through GTZA. (Main turbo-gear unit).
          1. PSih2097 13 February 2020 22: 10 New
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            Quote: Victor_B
            ENGINE at the Premier League - propeller!

            I asked for the primary, not the final ...
            1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 11 New
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              I asked for the primary, not the final ...

              There are no such. In nature.
              1. PSih2097 13 February 2020 22: 12 New
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                Quote: Victor_B
                There are no such. In nature.

                What did you have in terms of thermo?
                1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 13 New
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                  What did you have in terms of thermo?

                  Four.
                  An engine is a device that converts the energy of an engine or an external source, through interaction with the environment, into the useful work of moving a vehicle.
                  Pedivicia.
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                    1. Victor_B 13 February 2020 22: 30 New
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                      Dear, well, do not confuse the ENGINE with the ENGINE.
                      Well, do not insist, by golly you are fundamentally wrong.
                      Well, let's butt for the ENGINE, or rather for the PPU (steam generating unit).
                      The engine is a steam turbine! Point! (There is electric movement and DGA)
                      Mover - propeller or water cannon. (Taki are different things)
                      PPU - a nuclear reactor.
                      How do you not call the STEAMER, it will remain a steamboat, only it will not smoke, sometimes.
    5. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 26 New
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      TAVKR cannot be a steamer initially, it has a different power plant ...

      A sailor will never say a diesel ship, or a turbine ship. Well, the seaman is not imprisoned for this. A ship, a ship, or rather a steamer or a steamer (this comes from pre-war sailors). Each has its own slang and concept. Do not be offended by each of its nuances.
      1. PSih2097 13 February 2020 22: 24 New
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        A sailor will never say a diesel ship, or a turbine ship.

        Would you personally call "Kuznetsov" a steamer ???
        1. tihonmarine 14 February 2020 00: 01 New
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          Would you personally call "Kuznetsov" a steamer ???

          When I worked on it - a ship, when I met at sea - a warrior, or a ship. A ship is a military ship, a ship is a merchant, a trawler is a fisherman. There are also zhabodavs, and a mountain river, a saplayer. But there are many more slangs, there are bobiks, cheburashki, scooters.
  • God save the king 13 February 2020 19: 18 New
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    And after all, it’s not even about “modernization”, for 300 mulions they will only make it so that it does not drown.
    In truth, it’s time to send this smoldering poor man down for scrap, Russia will not pull another financial “black hole”.
    1. Rzzz 13 February 2020 19: 33 New
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      It should be given to any private shipyard that has the appropriate capabilities.
      They will do it in a year, and ten times cheaper than "corporations", which can only cut budgets.
      1. Oleg kubanoid 13 February 2020 19: 58 New
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        there are no such shipyards ..
      2. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 21: 30 New
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        It should be given to any private shipyard that has the appropriate capabilities.

        You want to ruin the state. Now private owners throughout the former USSR in bulk, but they take a lot of money. There are cheaper, but small. There is no choice. You can try abroad, but it’s a utopia on my part to say that.
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          Private traders take a lot of money ??? You are not in the subject at all. An example from recent practice. On one of our steamers it was necessary to make a small repair on iron. Here cut off, weld there .. one locksmith and one welder for half a day are needed. The ship is loaded next to the state shipyard, agents drop the bill there, there they count TWO days, they declare 340 thousand. We are getting tired, I’m calling one of the factories that I used to work with a lot, the director says - “take a picture on the vatsap of the chief technologist”, after 10 minutes the technologist calls back, says “well, they write about a thousand.”
          This is of course a small example, but in large orders as well. And so our entire beautiful navy is likely to be built! Therefore, the pace is such that small corvettes are built for at least three years, although they should flop off the conveyor into the water, one by one !!
  • awg75 13 February 2020 19: 37 New
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    300 million rubles is absolutely nothing nationwide.
    1. The popuas 13 February 2020 19: 41 New
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      You can say that the damage is more than a ruble ... wink and there ad infinitum hi
  • Eduard petrov 13 February 2020 19: 57 New
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    No, there is no final figure. The commission continues to work. Given the fact that the work has tightened up ... I think that it will take us some time to reconcile ... I will not scare or delight anyone - there are definitely no 90 billion, but I also think that 300 million (rubles) ) we will not get off

    - he said.

    I wonder how much you can charge.
  • pexotinec 13 February 2020 20: 14 New
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    Someone wanted to make money on a long-term repair!
  • syndicalist 13 February 2020 20: 33 New
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    Quote: Mar. Tira
    We can’t get out of the peak of the collapse of the country.

    Yet? Do you believe that such a task is posed?
  • Professor Preobrazhensky 13 February 2020 20: 34 New
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    the fire did not cause critical damage, it will not affect the delivery of the ship to the customer

    Dates are traditionally shifted ...

    I won’t scare or delight anyone - there’s definitely no 90 billion there, but I also think that we won’t get off with 300 million (rubles)

    45 billion and 150 million - just the arithmetic mean, the golden mean, so to speak ...
  • huntsman650 13 February 2020 20: 47 New
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    It seems to me that the CIA officers are sending saboteurs to Kuzya under the guise of "tundraks", they are afraid that he will leave the factory and bring down all the power to America))). It’s almost drowning, it’s almost going to burn)))
  • Imperial Technocrat 13 February 2020 20: 47 New
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    Well, balabolstva about 90 billion expectedly failed
    1. reader65 13 February 2020 21: 31 New
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      Not yet evening...
  • The Siberian barber 14 February 2020 02: 26 New
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    THIS (Rahman) under trial, and without any amnesty! am
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      Quote: Siberian barber
      THIS (Rahman) under trial, and without any amnesty! am

      Justify? Is there any dirt? When will you bring the application to the prosecutor?
  • ROSS_51 14 February 2020 03: 10 New
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    Quote: Victor_B
    Right now I have 20 posts, so 30-40 minuses are guaranteed only from these two.
    Well, and someone else will smack polemics. But this is normal.

    You are so worried, I’m already worried about ace .. Pluses, minuses, epaulettes of some kind .. You are an adult. Or does it raise your self-esteem?
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  • Ros 56 14 February 2020 06: 07 New
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    Well, men give, and what’s there, three hundred lemons are not money. And on the scruff of the neck, and at the same time afford the responsible menagers poorly write out?
  • solovald 14 February 2020 06: 17 New
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    This "aircraft carrier" is a loser for someone (we won’t point with a finger) ... someone is always repairing / upgrading it (a good permanent source of finance) ... someone has it on the balance sheet (so the budget for it not bad content) ... someone commands them (good job desks and all sorts of stars), etc. So, "Kuzya" forever!
  • dima314 14 February 2020 11: 22 New
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    Recall that on December 12, 2019, a fire broke out at the ongoing repair and modernization of the Admiral Kuznetsov Tavkr, the area of ​​which reached 500 square meters. meters. Fire extinguishing took almost a day. A preliminary reason is that the spark from the welding gets into diesel fuel. During the fire, 14 people were injured, and two servicemen were killed.
    - the cause of the fire touches! once was a student of a car mechanic and in the winter in the garage they showed me how to put out a cigarette in gasoline. I drove like a cool one, threw a cigarette butt into a bucket of gasoline and nothing happened, because it's like in the winter. And that solarium was ignited by a welding spark in December and in the north ... It will be very gloomy to burn it there, even if you want to.
    1. huntsman650 14 February 2020 14: 28 New
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      I personally witnessed the fire of chachi, a mixture of fuels and lubricants, it is not clear what composition. The mixture burned between the sides, BOD and SKR, at a negative temperature of -10. SKR was moored to the BOD. On SKR stood KVP conscript, suggested that from a cigarette. The smell of burning sensed the contract on the BOD, the watch on the gangway.
      1. dima314 14 February 2020 19: 02 New
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        In Vershigory, the scout clearly divided in the report those scouted into 3 categories: he saw, I think, the lads say. I myself saw a cigarette butt went out in a bucket of gasoline.
        Diesel at low temperatures generally waxes, but how to burn it on water at sub-zero temperatures ... I do not believe it! If the rags were in the solarium there and welding was sparks, like a cutter when cutting thick metal ... well, maybe, but it's difficult for a solarium. That there is a complete mess, I believe, but not from the spark. someone sat down for this event, by the way, or is everything quiet and calm? The manufacturers and who wrote the orders and who was responsible for the repair in general, there is someone to plant!
        1. huntsman650 14 February 2020 22: 12 New
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          Explain how oil products caught fire between sides at -10. 1998 winter, Severomorsk, pier 3. Evening time, dark time of day. In the area of ​​the ladder, the transition from one ship to another. The bulkhead inside the ship after extinguishing is very warm, in the ignition area. I believe I do not believe, but this is a fact in which I also hardly believe, but I saw and extinguished it!