Algeria's first batch of Su-24MK air force bombers upgraded in Rzhev

Russia has begun the modernization of the first batch of Su-24 front-line bombers from the Algerian Air Force. According to the specialized portal MENA Defense, aircraft are being modernized at Rzhev Aviation Plant No. 514.

According to the material published by the portal, the first six Su-24MK Algerian front-line bombers arrived at the aircraft plant, the aircraft will be upgraded to Su-24M2 level. In total, the Algerian Air Force has 30 Su-24 aircraft; the timing of the modernization of the remaining bombers is unknown.

It is reported that Algerian Su-24MK will be installed aviation Sighting and navigation complex SVP-24 (specialized computing subsystem) of the Hephaestus and T company, which makes it possible to achieve high accuracy of hitting ground targets when using relatively cheap unguided aviation ammunition.

This system is specifically designed for the integration of satellite guided munitions and ensures the combat use of the entire existing and future nomenclature. weaponsincluding managed. It consists of a ground-based automated complex for the preparation and control of flight missions and an on-board equipment complex connected by a single specialized software.

The publication notes that the Algerian Air Force command decided to modernize the Su-24MK in service to the Su-24M2 level based on the results of studying the experience of using these Russian aerospace aircraft in Syria.

Comments

[bober1982]

In Syria, the Su-24 was the most effective in combat use, which means a well-developed aircraft, a tremendous experience has been gained.

[figwam]

Yes, at the end of the service he proved himself and was very useful, and the cut MIG-23-27 and Su-17m3-m4 would also be useful.

[Oleg kubanoid]

the most effective was 34 ..

[Vladimir_2U]

This is the monetization of a healthy state policy!

[Oleg kubanoid]

I don’t exclude that it’s a cover, maybe in a quiet way we sold our 24. and if it’s true then it’s very good .. we have priority 34

[Stalllker]

It is possible to sell at a high-profile, what is stopping !?

[Oleg kubanoid]

most likely sanctions .. ours is on the drum. but Algeria may suffer. this is just an assumption.
it's just really simpler .. we sell our 24 with modernization. thus getting rid of old technology ..

[Bongo]

Russia has begun the modernization of the first batch of Su-24 front-line bombers from the Algerian Air Force.

In fact, the aircraft sighting and navigation system SVP-24 "Hephaestus" was originally developed by order of the Algerian Air Force. Moreover, part of the Algerian front-line bombers was equipped with new equipment even before it was received by the Su-24M Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation.

[Stalllker]

Development is still ours))) Or do you think that Algeria called "Ale, Moscow !!! We want Hephaestus !!!" and ours were cut from scratch ???

[Bongo]

Quote: Stalllker

Development is still ours))) Or do you think that Algeria called "Ale, Moscow !!! We want Hephaestus !!!" and ours were cut from scratch ???

I do not believe, I know. Initially, Poghosyan pushed the Su-24M modernized within the framework of the Gusar ROC into our air forces. However, the "Algerian" option turned out to be much more successful.

[Stalllker]

Developed where ??? In Russia!? So whose development ???? Yes, if there is truth in your words, then Hephaestus has a fate like the T-90. The investor and the customer are imported, who "gave money" for the project. Which was later successfully completed and implemented into a product.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Bongo

aircraft sighting and navigation system SVP-24 "Hephaestus" was originally developed by order of the Algerian Air Force

Not certainly in that way. Hephaestus was developed for the Russian Su-24, but the native MO reacted cool to the development. And the Algerian Air Force became interested, and it was the Algerian aircraft that were the first to receive this complex. The situation is the same as with the ZRPK Pantsir - he, too, was the first to receive a foreign state (UAE), and only then his native Moscow region received his sight ..

[Bongo]

Quote: Gregory_45

and only then did the native MO see clearly ..

Exactly Comparing the Algerian Su-24M modernized within the framework of the Metronome design and development project and ours, modernized according to the version proposed by JSC Sukhoi Company.

[Stalllker]

The question is not in the cool, but in the banal lack of money

[Runoway]

Moreover, part of the Algerian front-line bombers was equipped with new equipment even before it was received by the Su-24M Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation.

Very important information for those who still dream of truncated versions of export equipment

[Magog]

Here we must not reproach those who "dream", but regularly clean the MO. The SVP-24 developers, apparently, did not agree to "kickbacks" for ministerial customers.

[Grigory_45]

Algeria is actively rearming, mainly with Russian-made equipment. It is enough to recall the recent contracts for the supply of Su-30MKA and MiG-29SMT fighters, Mi-28N helicopters, Pantsir air defense missile systems, T-90S tanks, and project 636M submarines.
Algeria ranks third in imports of Russian weapons after India and China.

[donavi49]

Well, with new contracts, trouble. And according to the latter, again, only repair, maintenance, completion of supplies to the Mi-26T2 (by the way, the board was also commissioned by Algeria, and the Moscow Region arrived at the ready, and before that it ordered the museum Mi-26T from the 80s and it was normal), finishing supplies of T-90CA.

Howitzers - not Msty, but Chinese PZL-45

MLRS - not a tornado, but the Chinese SR-5

The armored car is not the Tiger, but the UAE Nimr, including the special version for desert raids https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3532170.html

UAVs - UAEshny and the Chinese, well, there is nothing special to offer.

In the fleet - USC was led, led and thrown. As a result, only 636 were bought, and the rest is ordered from others. 4 MEKO frigates (the second pair is already being built, the loot has been transferred to the option). 3 S28 guard at China. DKVD San ​​Giorgio in Italy. There is a whole series of stigmas. China in a row for the reconstruction and modernization of shipyards. A contract for patronage in the completion of the transitional corvette. And for China in a row for the construction of the first national lightweight frigate, we may already see it next year. Even small watchdogs even ordered in France.

[Zaurbek]

Is SVP24 useful only for bombing? Or for the Nurses too?

[Magog]

NURS, and more precisely NAR - is an aircraft multiple launch rocket weapon. Effectively at ranges of up to 2 km (all shells lay down heap). SVP-24 can be used from high altitudes inaccessible to MANPADS. Probably, it is possible for NARs, but what is the point?

[Zaurbek]

And what if the NAR is a large-caliber C12 and C24?

[Magog]

Large NARs are solid fuel NURS. How accurate are they in terms of fuel filling? PU also have manufacturing differences. All this significantly affects the dispersion of shells under the same launch conditions. Up to 2 km is not noticeable, and then - trouble. 2 km - range, not altitude.

[Zaurbek]

They wrote that they were very accurate.

[Magog]

We are not considering controlled modifications with the seeker? They (controlled) are very accurate and distant (7-10 km). Then for such and SVP-24 is not necessary - everything is already "in chocolate". I have typed in links to understand in detail. "The calculated dispersion parameter is 14 ... 16 meters per kilometer of range for the RS-82 and 0,3% for the range for the first generation C-8. At a distance of six kilometers, the probable deviation is 84-96 and 18 meters, respectively. The difference is mainly occurs due to the fact that the RS-82 was kept on the trajectory only due to wing stabilization, while more modern missiles rotate around their axis in flight.This significantly increases the stability of the trajectory, although it requires additional fuel consumption. Perhaps the more modern S-8OFP will show less dispersion due to the use of a different type of tail unit. Instead of the six large-sweep "feathers" expanding forward in flight on the previous modifications of the C-8 family of missiles, now they use four folding wide-chord rudders that open sideways. However, the improvements "at times" are not here expected ... it is better to fire from a distance of one or two kilometers. Then the circular deviation of the NURS in relation to the point of aim I will be three to six meters. "

[Zaurbek]

Look at the data on C25, I read that they hit very accurately for the NARs.

[Magog]

"The largest of the serial domestic NAR remains the S-25 3,3 meters long and weighing half a ton. It is not known whether a special warhead of the W25 type was developed for it. In open sources there is only mention of the high-explosive S-25F and fragmentation S-25O with warhead mass 380 and 190 kg, respectively. Sighting range - up to four kilometers. The radio fuse was triggered at an altitude of 5-20 meters from the ground, ensuring the target hit by a high-explosive charge and a stream of debris. On entering service in the early seventies, on the basis of this NAR developed a guided missile S-25L. It was distinguished by the presence of a laser homing head and the installation of an additional block of drive rudders. For the supersonic fighter-bomber Su-7B in 1964 developed the S-24 with a caliber of 240 mm and a mass of 235 kg. The missile is 2,3 meters long. high-explosive fragmentation warhead weighing 123 kg. The solid fuel charge burned out in a second after the start; then the rocket flew by inertia. Stabilization - due to four non-suspended lower aerodynamic surfaces in the tail section. The effective firing range was limited to a couple of kilometers. "

[Zaurbek]

In the monograph for Su25 I read, h at 2 km fits into a circle of 2 m ... and so, they write that the range is 4 km.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Magog

Probably possible for NAR

explain, be so kind, the mechanism of application of SVP-24 in relation to the launch of NAR?

[Magog]

The answer follows from the whole line of reasoning. No way!

[Grigory_45]

Nowhere and never met information that Hephaestus can be used to shoot NAR. RBC bombs, containers - yes ...

[Zaurbek]

How Suo Tank is arranged ...., also shoot NAR ...

[Stalllker]

I'm interested too

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Zaurbek

Is SVP24 useful only for bombing?

for bombing. The SVP-24 computer analyzes data on the speed, altitude and position of the aircraft (according to GLONASS signals), "knows" the coordinates of the target, analyzes in real time the state of the atmosphere (pressure, humidity, wind speed and direction, etc.) and automatically resets a bomb at a point providing a minimum deviation from the aiming point.

[Izzy Gubinstein]

Narusov bombing at the Senate of the Javgean Jugaes with concrete-breaking wards

[Ros 56]

Algerians know where to turn, these are not Bulgarians and ... forgot the country, they are looking for who will repair the Soviet planes.

[Frogfoot]

Rave. ANDR Air Force repaired their MiG-29s in Belarus. By the way, the Bulgarians are repairing and modernizing their Su-25s in Belarus too. Both processes are carried out / carried out with the design and technological support of the aircraft developer. By the way, the Bulgarian MiGs were repaired in the Russian Federation and still their operation and maintenance is accompanied by the Russian side. Soviet-made living aircraft (such as MiG-29, Su-27, Su-25) in the world are not as many as you think. Those countries that exploit them are well aware of where they can be repaired or serviced.

[Stalllker]

If my memory serves me right, ours abandoned these planes, after repairs in Belarus

[Antokha]

Quote: Bongo

Initially, Poghosyan pushed the Su-24M modernized within the framework of the Gusar ROC into our air forces. However, the "Algerian" option turned out to be much more successful.

I confirm

[Izzy Gubinstein]

lieutenant Rzhevsky modernizirin flying Pegasus fur arapen Luftwaffen
Juden Koput
Amen

[Izzy Gubinstein]

Alarm, Yuden Brechen !!!
Zionism hydra apakakakakivaet here Luftwaffles made in the USSR

[Izzy Gubinstein]

wah, the luds of the world (the luds of the world are yavgei) stand for a minute
a beep is heard from you from all the hounds, especially from the hogs of the dead grave
call ov richly, otherwise byad, you will be taken captive to the pharaoh

[Stalllker]

Another good advertisement for Russian weapons

[Pavel57]

Algeria will never buy a Su-34.