“There is money - now hold on”: About trillions of NWFs for a deal on Sberbank

“There is money - now hold on”: About trillions of NWFs for a deal on Sberbank

On Tuesday, it became known that the government would buy back a controlling stake in Sberbank from the Central Bank - 50% plus one share. A bill on this deal has already been prepared. In March, he will be submitted to the State Duma. According to RBC, the head of the Duma committee on the financial market, Anatoly Aksakov, the bill can be considered expedited and adopted in the spring session.


How to eliminate a conflict of interest


The possibility of this transaction has been discussed for a long time. The fact is that the Central Bank in relation to Sberbank is simultaneously a shareholder (owner), regulator and supervisor. Experts assess this situation as a “certain conflict of interest.”

There was a proposal to transfer a controlling stake in Sberbank from the Central Bank to the government. However, central bank executives insisted on selling the stake on market conditions. Its value is calculated at the weighted average price of shares for the full six months prior to the date of the first transaction.

On Tuesday, February 11, the cost of a package of Sberbank, according to the proposed methodology, amounted to approximately 2,7 trillion. rubles. The government will take funds for this deal from the National Welfare Fund (NWF). This will be the first uncoupling of the state reserve capsule, collected according to the new budget rule from excess profits from the sale of oil and asset management of the Fund.

The process has started


In January, President Vladimir Putin, in his Address to the Federal Assembly, mentioned that in the second half of this year, the NWF would exceed the seven percent threshold of the country's GDP. Everything that will go beyond this, the government will be able to spend on infrastructure projects. It seems the process has started. The first such waste will be the purchase of shares in Sberbank. Buying from anyone specifically ...

We will look carefully at how the money will be taken for it. According to the Ministry of Finance, at the beginning of the year on the NWF accounts with the Bank of Russia there were liquid funds in the amount of 6,14 trillion. rubles. In the first quarter, they will add about 2,94 trillion. rubles (equivalent of currency purchased under the budget rule in 2019).

So the liquid means of the NWF will grow to 9,1 trillion. rubles. To paraphrase the well-known aphorist of the current era, “there is money - now hold on” ...

Of these, according to expert estimates, 1,2 trillion can be spent. This amount was determined to exceed seven percent of the projected GDP for 2020. Now it’s clear where part of these funds will go. Since the transaction on Sberbank will be implemented in several stages and will go beyond the calendar framework of the current year. Most likely, experts will now begin to argue. After all, the purchase of shares in Sberbank is still an investment project (such is not forbidden for the NWF either), but not infrastructure, as the government previously announced the first expenses of the Fund.

Let them argue ... As an asset of the NWF, it will increase in value. Not for nothing that right after the appearance of information about the sale of a controlling stake in Sberbank to the government, Sberbank shares in the stock market jumped 2%.

We must also remember that now the bank’s dividends for 2019 will go directly to the National Wealth Fund. What will they be, the question is still open. This will be decided by the annual meeting of shareholders based on the recommendations of the Supervisory Board. For reference: at the end of 2018, Sberbank paid dividends to shareholders in an amount exceeding 420 billion rubles.

Who claims the Fund


The real attention to the NWF appeared last summer, when it became clear that the threshold beyond which the Fund’s spending would begin would be reached next year. The Ministry of Finance then calculated that in 2020 it would be possible to take 1,8 trillion from the NWF. rubles, in 2021 - 4,2 trillion.

The calculated figures caused a little discussion among officials. There were proposals to raise the cutoff threshold for oil prices in the budget rule (it was $ 42 per barrel) so that the Fund would not fill up so quickly and funds would flow into the budget. Then they agreed not to change the rule. After all, the business is already waiting for the promised funds of the NWF.

Business, however, proved to be very soon. One of the first to send a letter to the government was Gazprom Chairman Alexei Miller. He asked to finance two giant projects in the Baltic region of Ust-Luga - a gas processing and liquefaction complex and the country's largest gas-chemical complex.

There was also a proposal to invest the Fund in the construction of a nuclear power plant in Egypt. As part of this project, Russia pledged to provide an African country with a loan of as much as $ 28 billion for a period up to 2028. The Ministry of Finance considered that it was more convenient to use the means of the NWF for this. Uralkali also later requested funds from the Fund to Africa. She prepared a project for the construction of a nitrogen fertilizer plant in Angola and was looking for cheap resources for it.

The head of Vnesheconombank Igor Shuvalov lowered the applicants for the funds of the Fund to the sinful Russian land. He proposed to finance the improvement of Russian settlements, and to think about projects in Africa “later”. Shuvalov named projects on water purification, renewal of transport, construction of modern housing, improving the quality of services in fifty large cities.

But the proposal of Igor Shuvalov did not find unanimous support. Since at the moment the Fund’s investments, as announced, it is wiser to invest in projects that can return funds to the NWF with a profit and further increase its reserves. Indeed, what can be the profit from investments in Russian cities ...

For similar reasons, many other fundraisers were denied. The deal with the shares of Sberbank, it seems, compares favorably with their projects. She promises a further increase in the Fund’s funds and is directly related to the activities of Russians. Apparently, that's why it was made the starting point in a new direction of the government.
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  1. Tatyana 13 February 2020 17: 22 New
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    Fact is that Central bank in relation to Sberbank at the same time is a shareholder (owner), regulator and supervisor.

    I have long said that according to the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia", the Central Bank of Russia is partly a private ownership office in the world of finance.
    Well. you are welcome! The state will pay Nabiulina!
    And where did the government get the money ?! That is the question!
    1. Vladimir B. 13 February 2020 17: 26 New
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      Quote: Tatiana
      And where did the government get the money ?! That is the question!

      From us simple taxpayers.
      1. Lexus 13 February 2020 17: 36 New
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        Al Capone didn’t even dream of such a “laundry” ...
        1. Tatyana 13 February 2020 18: 05 New
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          Quote: Vladimir B.
          Quote: Tatiana
          And where did the government get the money ?! That is the question!
          From us simple taxpayers.

          This is about several trillion rubles.
          Two aspects arise regarding the fate of these trillions of rubles. Namely.

          Firstly. Since the Central Bank of Russia is partially private, the money from the sale of Sberbank to the government of the Russian Federation will most likely turn out to be net revenue for the private shareholders of the Central Bank of Russia, and not for the state of the Russian Federation. Large shareholders get rich. I wonder who exactly where and for what this money will go. Someone offshore?

          Secondly. What is the government of the Russian Federation going to spend income from% of profits from such a deal on? If the government of the Russian Federation in recent years has been unable to absorb the current investment in the economy from a budget surplus?
          But Medvedev all the last time insisted on the need to continue the privatization of state property in the country!
          Is it that the new 1990s in Russia have come again? !!!

          Why sell Sberbank? Oleg Komolov • Posted: Feb 12 2020
          1. Genry 13 February 2020 18: 55 New
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            Quote: Tatiana
            money from the sale of Sberbank to the government of the Russian Federation will most likely turn out to be net revenue for the private shareholders of the Central Bank of Russia, and not for the state of the Russian Federation

            And please provide a list of shareholders of the Central Bank. Do you have a source on the constituent documents of the Bank "Russia"? All banks of Russian jurisdiction are required to publish them.
            IMHO, the Central Bank has no shareholders - there is only the owner (like Soros). And Russia keeps its accounts there (as a depositor) and buys rubles for currency for turnovers.

            50% + 1 shares of Sberbank were purchased by the Central Bank. Now the reverse process ....
            There is a suspicion that they want the Central Bank to send far, and on the basis of Sberbank to make the State Bank with its issue of money, with the price of the ruble balanced not by frozen currency, but by purchasing power, i.e. accessible mass of goods and services in Russia (plus possible foreign markets, where it is used as a payment unit).
          2. Overlock 13 February 2020 19: 56 New
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            Quote: Tatiana
            Is it that the new 1990s in Russia have come again? !!!

            Sberbank is being nationalized. What for? It looks like a country on the eve of a grandiose rascal. The nationalization of the leading bank will not allow the financial system to collapse as a result of this outrage. And what kind of a rascal? Maybe a trip to Kiev?
    2. olegfbi 13 February 2020 17: 28 New
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      However, central bank executives insisted on selling the stake on market conditions.

      Question - Why? And who are these leaders ...? Who are they working for ...?
      To once again enable the Central Bank to freeze several trillions so that they do not work in the economy?
      Why can’t you take away a block of shares from Sberbank by issuing a federal law? At the same time, the fund’s funds can be put into the economy
      1. Gene84 13 February 2020 17: 37 New
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        Quote: olegfbi
        And who are these leaders ...? Who are they working for ...?

        Head of the Central Bank of Nabiulin. The Central Bank leaders officially work for Russia, but in fact ... who knows ...
      2. at84432384 13 February 2020 20: 11 New
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        You don’t even have to pass a law - transfer of property from one state institution to another is often formalized by a symbolic sale for 1 ruble. But 2.7 trillion of the NWF are now definitely lost for the Russian economy. It seems that this is the homespun sense of this strange deal. It is no coincidence that it was Nabiullina, an outspoken IMF agent, who insisted on a "market" selling price. Well, what else can you expect from the occupying Russian administration ?! Only the robbery of Russia and its people.
    3. ximkim 13 February 2020 17: 35 New
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      [/ quote] And where does the government get the money from ?! That’s the question! [Quote]


      There’s something else. You need the money to go to the government. Now they’ll make a number of amendments, the fns will connect and their hackers (not programmers) will be at work). Now hold on
    4. Mar.Tirah 13 February 2020 17: 42 New
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      Quote: Tatiana
      And where did the government get the money ?! That is the question!

      How, from where, of course, is the truth conditional? Because the Central Bank can only function in conjunction with the course of the Russian government, it was created for this. So the Security Council a priori cannot be independent of the course and policy of the state .. I did not quite understand the meaning of the article ? Started for health (change of ownership of the Security Council) ended for repose (applicants for the NWF)?
      1. Dart2027 13 February 2020 17: 46 New
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        Quote: Mar. Tira
        Started for health (change of ownership of the Security Council); finished for repose (applicants for the NWF)
        We must cry.
      2. stopkran 16 February 2020 08: 49 New
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        Even as it can, and according to the law adopted back in the USSR.
        Federal Law of December 02.12.1990, 395 N 1-20.04.2015 (as amended on April 02, 1990) "On Banks and Banking Activities" (December XNUMX, XNUMX)

        Article 9. Relations between a credit institution and the state

        A credit institution is not liable for state obligations. The state is not liable for the obligations of a credit institution, unless the state itself has assumed such obligations.

        The legislative and executive authorities and local governments are not entitled to intervene in the activities of credit organizations, with the exception of cases provided for by federal laws.

        ***

        Since 1990, there have been no state banks in the Russian Federation since the Central Bank, which is managed from London, through the audit firm PWC /

        PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC303525
        http://www.pwc.co.uk/who-we-are/legal-disclaimer.jhtml
    5. Ros 56 13 February 2020 18: 01 New
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      And why are you, or rather all of us, the people, so to speak.
      1. Mordvin 3 13 February 2020 18: 41 New
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        Quote: Ros 56
        And why are you, or rather all of us, the people, so to speak.

        Quote: Dart2027
        We must cry.
    6. Cowbra 13 February 2020 18: 02 New
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      Quote: Tatiana
      The state will pay Nabiulina!

      Really, something incomprehensible ... Although, in economics, I don’t think anything at all ...
      1. Overlock 13 February 2020 19: 58 New
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        Quote: Cowbra
        Really, something incomprehensible ...

        just everything is clear, nationalization!
        1. Cowbra 13 February 2020 20: 06 New
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          And before GOSbank was whose?
          1. Overlock 13 February 2020 20: 14 New
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            Quote: Cowbra
            And before GOSbank was whose?

            used to be the USSR
    7. kapitan92 13 February 2020 19: 31 New
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      Quote: Tatiana
      Well. you are welcome! The state will pay Nabiulina!
      And where did the government get the money ?! That is the question!

      laughing This is Russia, ma'am!
      Before us is a test of public opinion before an attempt at a grandiose embezzlement, of obtaining the "market" value of half of Sberbank, in which the Central Bank did not invest anything other than loud statements
      If Russia positions itself as an independent power, it should not buy its own main bank from someone, but simply amend the Law on the Central Bank, indicating that the Central Bank is the full sovereign property of Russia. China, imagine what you did to the People’s Bank, and it feels good.
      On December 25, 2019, Reuters reported that the Russian government was considering using the National Wealth Fund (NWF) funds to buy shares of Sberbank from the Central Bank. The market price of a share in the Central Bank is 2,8 trillion rubles. More than one third of the total fund that has accumulated since 2004.

      When the finances of your country are managed by the international community, consisting mainly of representatives of countries that have imposed sanctions on your country, can you be sure that you are not sick with state schizophrenia? lol hi
      1. Tatyana 13 February 2020 20: 34 New
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        Quote: kapitan92
        Quote: Tatiana
        Well. you are welcome! The state will pay Nabiulina! And where does the government get the money from ?! That is the question!
        This is Russia, ma'am! Before us is a test of public opinion before an attempt at a grandiose embezzlement, receiving the “market” value of half of Sberbank, in which the Central Bank did not invest anything other than high-profile statements
        If Russia positioning itself as an independent power, it should not buy someone’s own main bank, but simply amend the law “On the Central Bank”, indicating that the Central Bank is the full sovereign property of Russia. China, imagine what you did to the People’s Bank, and it feels good.

        The most interesting thing about this is that The Federation Council supported the introduction of LIFE SENATURE with their lifetime powers in the country and an increase in their number - with the introduction of an appropriate amendment to the Constitution of the Russian Federation!

        The corresponding statement was made on February 12 during the meeting of the Federation Council.
        Matvienko assured that the proposed amendment to introduce lifelong senatorship will increase the authority of the Federation Council.
        Earlier, on February 7, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Alexander Chubaryan proposed an amendment to the Constitution introducing the institution of lifelong senatorialism and increasing the number of members of the Federation Council.

        The idea of ​​changing the Constitution of the Russian Federation was made by Russian President Vladimir Putin on January 15, 2020 in a message to the Federal Assembly. In particular, Putin proposed an amendment expanding the powers of the Federation Council to appoint a cabinet of ministers.
        But, as we see, deputies in the Federation Council of the Russian Federation went even further Putin - they agreed to wipe their pants in the SF now for life! Lords are Russian! Why not? After all, money for the maintenance of their loved ones will always be found!
      2. at84432384 13 February 2020 20: 37 New
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        Who manages finances, he rules the country. This simple formula was voiced even 200 years ago by one of the Rothschilds. Well, we have been observing this picture for several decades now - the country is making a lot of money, but for the development of the country itself "there is no money, but you hold on." With this power, Russia will always be bantustan.
    8. lucul 13 February 2020 20: 05 New
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      I have long said that according to the Federal Law "On the Central Bank of Russia", the Central Bank of Russia is partly a private ownership office in the world of finance.

      This is suppressed))
      Article 26. After approval of the annual financial statements of the Bank of Russia by the Board of Directors of the Bank of Russia lists to the federal budget 75 percent actually received by him at the end of the year arrivedremaining after payment of taxes and fees in accordance with the Tax Code of the Russian Federation

      After paying salaries to managers and employees of the Fed and fixed dividends on shares, the Fed transfers the remaining profit to the treasury accounts, which are received in the revenue part of the budget.

      Soft nationalization .....
  2. Amateur 13 February 2020 17: 25 New
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    If I understand correctly, then first the wife got a jointly purchased TV right after the wedding. Now, from my stash, I have to pay her grandmother for our TV. At the same time, the telly as it stood in its place, it still stands, and as we watched the programs, we will watch them.
    Question:
    1. What should I pay grandmother for?
    2. And where is she going to get these grandmothers, because our family budget seems to be the same.
    Or is she ... aah ... repeat
    1. BARKAS 13 February 2020 17: 29 New
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      75% of this transaction is returned to the government as the owner, thereby this amount can be spent without restriction. This is according to NTV.
      1. BARKAS 13 February 2020 18: 03 New
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        The same operation with maternity capital is called confusion.
      2. kjhg 13 February 2020 18: 19 New
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        Quote: BARKAS
        75% of this transaction is returned to the government as the owner

        The remaining 25%, and this is from 2,7 trillion. rubles, for a minute, almost 700 billion rubles, or, translated into cu, about 11 billion dollars! will remain in the Central Bank and will be spent at its discretion. We already know where and how the Central Bank can spend these funds. In recent years, in connection with the revocation of licenses from banks, the Central Bank has invested in them about 2,3 trillion rubles. Roughly speaking, tens of billions of rubles are being withdrawn from a bank in collusion with the Central Bank. Then the Central Bank takes away their licenses, takes control of the bank into their own hands and pays to dubious investors huge amounts of deposits. Thus, through such depositors and through such banks, the Central Bank launders hundreds of billions and even trillions of rubles.
        Who is behind such actions of the Central Bank? Not hard to guess.
      3. at84432384 13 February 2020 20: 56 New
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        Nowadays, a gypsy fortuneteller at a train station is more trustworthy than pro-government TV channels. Until recently, all channels excitedly told how, after the pension reform, all pensioners will be able to travel around the world and need something ... And NTV did not tell about the multibillion-dollar losses (in dollars) of the Central Bank arising from "effective" currency purchase and sale operations and scams with the closure (theft of assets) of hundreds of banks? The Central Bank will cover them with this “sale”, and it will receive the budget, and this is in the best case (the Central Bank is an organization completely free from state control and the law), 75% of that. what will remain, i.e. a donut hole. All well-known Russian economists agreed on one thing - the “sale” of Sberbank - the largest fraud of our time.
    2. seti 13 February 2020 17: 46 New
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      The box seems to be common, but what kind of uncle goes to the type of "yours" while you are not at home question. So the question is open for money ...
      1. Amateur 13 February 2020 17: 50 New
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        but what kind of uncle to type "yours" walks

        So there is an alternative: either her am or his am .
        Then the telly and grandmas will definitely remain in the family.
        1. Mordvin 3 13 February 2020 18: 59 New
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          Quote: Amateur
          Then the telly and grandmas will definitely remain in the family.

          Arrested in jail ...
        2. Uncle lee 14 February 2020 03: 19 New
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          -Give rouge, I will kill the neighbor !!!
          - ??
          -I'm at home, he shakes my nets, I am fishing, he is to my woman!
  3. Vladimir_2U 13 February 2020 17: 25 New
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    He asked to finance two giant projects in the Baltic region of Ust-Luga - a gas processing and liquefaction complex and the country's largest gas-chemical complex.
    It’s wonderful, just wonderful, to ask a profitable company for state funds for business development, does the thought of these gentlemen come to invest their own funds?
    1. Starover_Z 13 February 2020 17: 35 New
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      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      He asked to finance two giant projects in the Baltic region of Ust-Luga - a gas processing and liquefaction complex and the country's largest gas-chemical complex.
      It’s wonderful, just wonderful, to ask a profitable company for state funds for business development, does the thought of these gentlemen come to invest their own funds?

      What if it doesn’t work out ?! After all, the wife scolds, will file for divorce and for the division of property ...
    2. karabass 13 February 2020 18: 00 New
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      A true businessman NEVER risks his money! Finds an investor
    3. AU Ivanov. 13 February 2020 19: 10 New
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      More than 50% of Gazprom shares are owned by the state. And Miller is never the owner of this company.
      1. Vladimir_2U 14 February 2020 03: 12 New
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        Well, invest in the company’s profit and not ask for funds from the state fund.
  4. Livonetc 13 February 2020 17: 26 New
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    I don’t understand .... repeat
    "Everything seems clear ..
    But what exactly? .. "
    1. Vladimir B. 13 February 2020 17: 29 New
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      But what to understand, there is money, money must be spent, spent on the purchase of Sberbank, the owner of the Nabiulin sber, that is, the money will go to the Central Bank of Nabiulina. wassat I get it ...
      PS Only I did not understand why the state should buy something from itself
      1. Livonetc 13 February 2020 17: 37 New
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        That is, you also misunderstood. hi
        1. Gene84 13 February 2020 17: 42 New
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          Quote: Livonetc
          That is, you also misunderstood

          in my opinion no one understood what kind of scheme this is. who ever thought of all this? why postkpat so?request more questions than answers ...
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            1. at84432384 13 February 2020 21: 14 New
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              When we held “collateral auctions” and legal billionaires appeared in the country (Deripaska, Prokhorov, Khodorkovsky and other evil spirits), we also didn’t understand anything at first, we simply didn’t know the details of that scam. Here the same story and some time later the details of this scam and its beneficiaries will become clear. But something tells me that there will be no common people among them ...
      2. New Year day 13 February 2020 18: 57 New
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        Quote: Vladimir B.
        But I didn’t understand why the state should buy something from itself.

        to wash margins
  5. Campanella 13 February 2020 17: 30 New
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    I would first figure out how good gentlemen became shareholders of Sberbank! From what income did they finance the purchase of shares? For some reason, these “shareholders” did not return my Soviet savings, they are criminals and thieves! Now, they themselves are selling Sberbank for the unrequited loot and are setting the market price. Pay back debts to the people and the state, and then sell this miracle bank!
    1. Mordvin 3 13 February 2020 22: 38 New
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      Quote: Campanella
      how good gentlemen became shareholders of Sberbank! From what income did they finance the purchase of shares?

      Voucher invested. Own, wife, mother, father, grandfather ...
  6. sergo1914 13 February 2020 17: 31 New
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    Still, under Yeltsin, the “seven-boyars” were ... more human, or something. The current coasts do not see.
    1. fruit_cake 13 February 2020 18: 41 New
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      they were
      1. sergo1914 13 February 2020 19: 10 New
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        Quote: fruit_cake
        they were


        Not them. They cleaned those.
    2. New Year day 13 February 2020 18: 57 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      Still, under Yeltsin, the “seven-boyars” were ... more humane

      so there were seven. and now 1
    3. at84432384 13 February 2020 21: 21 New
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      More humane ?! When Khodorkovsky got out of the pack and started to “wet” him, dozens of criminal cases were opened under the most serious articles of the Criminal Code. Others simply did not touch, but they are unlikely to differ for the better. There are no “human” bandits. Only in fairy tales.
  7. Alexga 13 February 2020 17: 40 New
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    It is clear that business is business, but when in Kiev there are a dozen branches of Sberbank of Russia now, there are not a single one in the Crimea, the question arises - Is this the bank of Russia?
    1. New Year day 13 February 2020 18: 58 New
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      Quote: AlexGa
      in Crimea, not one, the question arises - Is it the Bank of Russia?

      By the way, there are no MTS and Beeline, Megaphone and Tele-2
      1. Alexga 13 February 2020 20: 54 New
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        Oh, even more interesting! I was surprised when I read on railcars in SEVASTOPOL-KZD and not Russian Railways, then, when the sanctions were announced on the company, I understood why, although it’s also not very all this.
  8. arhitroll 13 February 2020 17: 44 New
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    The wizard Nabiulman - all honestly - without cheating ...
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  10. Nikolay87 13 February 2020 17: 48 New
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    The money in the NWF comes from excess returns from the sale of hydrocarbons and from its own turnover in the securities market. Surpluses that appear after passing the 7% threshold can be spent investing in infrastructure projects.
    The very beginning of the video, 5-10 minutes
  11. duchy 13 February 2020 18: 01 New
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    Strange something, who owns the Central Bank? Sberbank joint stock company. Who will buy the shares from? It turns out, themselves at home? !! As the saying goes: Guys, we all have. Song about Orange. There are many of us, and he is one., Well, the result of the song. IMHO ..
    1. fruit_cake 13 February 2020 18: 40 New
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      Our Central Bank is generally independent of the government by law, who owns it? obviously Fed henchmen
  12. Housing 13 February 2020 18: 14 New
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    Sberbank, in general, this name needs to be eliminated .. How many people were robbed with this in the 90s .. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation in general is an incomprehensible structure .. Again, are you planning something? Obviously, money will start to be pumped out of the PF somewhere ..
    As soon as these overbought purchases begin, then everyone will put out the light, they will rob blindly all
    1. Mordvin 3 13 February 2020 19: 10 New
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      Vitaly, remove the bill (any) from the stash and look from all sides. You will not see anywhere that this piece of paper belongs to the Russian Federation.
      1. at84432384 13 February 2020 21: 35 New
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        According to the law on the Central Bank, it is forbidden to lend to the Government of the Russian Federation and it is allowed to lend to the governments of any other countries (including openly hostile ones). This alone suggests that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a Western financial structure for pumping financial resources from Russia, which it is extremely efficient and engaged in. Curiously, the peaks about amending the constitution, about its “sovereignization” are breaking, but there’s silence about articles on the Central Bank, and this is much more important for sovereignty than the mythical priority of “international law”.
  13. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 18: 29 New
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    The head of Vnesheconombank Igor Shuvalov lowered the applicants for the funds of the Fund to the sinful Russian land
    . Vultures flock, felt prey.
  14. fruit_cake 13 February 2020 18: 38 New
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    do we redeem ourselves a Sberbank for 2.7 billion? Wonderland
    1. reader65 13 February 2020 22: 17 New
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      2.7 trillion rubles
  15. Lamata 13 February 2020 18: 50 New
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    Okay, but will this money go for Kudda shares? To the central bank? or all the same it was transferred from the NWF to the budget? or the Central Bank will use them at its discretion. And Gazprom let the loot look for itself, Schalke 04 will drop and other non-core assets.
  16. hvvkiurv 13 February 2020 18: 53 New
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    The Central Bank of the Russian Federation will return 75% of the profit (about 1,25 billion rubles) received from the sale of a controlling stake in Sberbank to the state budget (according to the Law on the Central Bank of Russia), which will support the domestic currency and allow the state to increase social expenses.
    1. duchy 16 February 2020 09: 18 New
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      2,7 TRILLION rubles against 1,25 billion rubles ---- feel the DIFFERENCE belay belay belay
  17. Ggc1 13 February 2020 19: 21 New
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    Interesting logic! Financing the improvement of Russian settlements is not economically viable! Indeed, what can be the profit from investments in Russian cities? Gasifying Siberia and other Russian settlements is not economically feasible, it’s more profitable abroad, to sell for currency and put it in your pocket! But at the same time, Gazprom is a national treasure ?! Extinguishing forest fires is again not economically viable! And to invest money in a nuclear power plant somewhere in Africa - oh, that’s profitable, because you can put the loot in your pockets! As already got this "economic feasibility" when it comes to Russia and the citizens of Russia! They treat their people like cattle!
  18. Petrol cutter 13 February 2020 20: 13 New
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    I'm afraid to ask ... And in the Crimea, should we expect the appearance of Sberbank due to all these ups and downs? repeat
    1. Mordvin 3 13 February 2020 20: 19 New
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      Quote: Benzorez
      And in the Crimea, should we expect the appearance of Sberbank due to all these ups and downs?

      But isn’t he there? When I wrote about this a couple of years ago, they threw me hats ...
      1. Petrol cutter 13 February 2020 20: 43 New
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        Yes, as it were, from the Soviet era and is not observed ... request
    2. Lamata 13 February 2020 20: 40 New
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      But Putin Gref bend weak, so that he went into the Crimea, how could shareholders suffer
  19. Imperial Technocrat 13 February 2020 20: 53 New
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    Remediation is an excuse. Through supposedly reorganization, the Rockefellers will withdraw this money, this is their severance pay. But there is nothing to worry about - this is normal, such is the agreement. Putin’s alliance with the Rockefellers is already 20 years old, it was originally created to together destroy the common and incredibly powerful enemy - the Rothschilds. De facto, this happened at the end of spring-2019, in November it will be executed de jure. So the patterns shake hands, thank each other for their cooperation and diverge. But we will get a completely sovereign Central Bank, as well as the replacement of the Rockefellers in the government by the clan of Stalinist technocrats (Sobyanin, Rotenberg, Mishustin, etc.). For this, 10 trillion was not a sin to pay) In general, historical events, I congratulate all of us on this. So far, no one is aware of this, but after a while people will understand the scale of these events (and that's not all)

    Well, Nabiullina, of course, will be replaced in a few months, immediately after the adoption of amendments to the Constitution about the Central Bank. They will put some economist from the Sobyanin / Rotenberg / Mishustin team. I don’t know who exactly, I need to wool high-ranking economists from this team

    The story of Sber, IMHO, is a golden parachute to the Rockefellers for their complete removal from power in the Russian Federation, of which they have been part of the last 20 years, along with the clan of the Imperials (Putin, Patrushev, etc.). The Imperials were responsible for foreign policy, and the domestic / economy was for the Rockefs. But everything, the alliance of the Imperials with the Rockes defeated the common enemy - the Rothschilds, and Putin asked them to leave. But rather, such was the agreement initially. Well, the severance pay is 25% of the amount of this package, i.e. in the region of 700 billion rubles. For the complete and final liberation of our country, including economic policy - the price is miserable, just nothing. Now the clan of the Stalinist technocrats (Mishustin, Sobyanin, Rotenberg - that's all) will take up the politics of lieutenant. And the Roqueves (Kovalchuk and many others) will leave. We get a “golden double” - anti-Satanists-Imperials (Putin) in foreign policy and anti-Satanists-technocrats-Stalinists in the internal (Mishustin, Sobyanin, Rotenberg). This is an invulnerable structure. It will provide both a powerful foreign policy and rapid economic development.

    PS I’m wanging amendments to the Constitution in the amendments to the Constitution, from which it will follow that he is sovereign, completely ours, and also not such a distant replacement for Nabiullina. Most likely, someone from the clan of technocrats

    PS2 Also, perhaps in the Constitution, finally, they will write about the Russian people as a state-forming / system-forming

    The Central Bank transfers 75% of the profit to the Russian budget. 25% - severance pay to the Rockefellers after 20 years of cooperation. For the complete sovereignty of the Central Bank, as well as the departure of the Rockefellers from the political power of Russia (Mishustin - from the clan of the Stalinists / Maoists / sizzinpinistov-technocrats; and the Rockes leave)

    I’m wanging amendments to the Constitution, including about the Central Bank. Well, Nabi will leave, instead of her, some Zakhar Prilepin will laugh. No, instead of it, someone from the clan of the Stalinists / Maoists / Sijinpinist technocrats - i.e. from the Rotenberg / Sobyanin team. I don’t know who exactly, I need to go through high-ranking economists / financiers from the Sobyanin / Rotenberg team. Can anyone do this action

    75% to the budget. 25% - severance pay to the Rockefellers for leaving Russia, as well as the fully sovereign status of the Central Bank


    This is the essence of the deal
    1. reader65 13 February 2020 22: 24 New
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      You need a snack.
      1. Crystal of Truth 13 February 2020 22: 44 New
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        Yes, there is already haloperidol needed
    2. Harry.km 14 February 2020 00: 42 New
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      Immediately the question arose, what are these mushrooms called?
  20. boriz 13 February 2020 23: 25 New
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    “The head of Vnesheconombank Igor Shuvalov lowered the applicants for the Fund’s funds to the sinful Russian land. He proposed to finance the improvement of Russian settlements, and to think about“ later ”projects in Africa.”
    Surprised Shuvalov. When did he manage to change shoes from liberalists to national guardians?
    1. Mikhail3 14 February 2020 09: 55 New
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      When with friends from the government he completely privatized major state construction contracts. What did you think)?
  21. Knell wardenheart 13 February 2020 23: 27 New
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    What does STAB FUND and its money have to do with one of the most stupid and stupid banks - I still don’t understand .. however, I’m taking my hat off to Gref’s cunning, anyway ..
  22. PROVINCIAL 14 February 2020 01: 54 New
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    “And so it was possible” The Formal State Central Bank is selling the STATE government a controlling stake for the money of the National Welfare Fund. My right hand put the money in my left and the left put the money in my back pocket. I take off my hat, Ostap Bender shot himself.
  23. Alex66 14 February 2020 06: 51 New
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    Maybe it’s easier to nationalize the Central Bank (This is how Uncle Fedor told Matroskin: you wanted to take it for good, so take it with the calf) or the Washington Regional Committee still does not allow it?
  24. g1washntwn 14 February 2020 07: 39 New
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    About dividends "pleased". First, they turned the scam of the century, redistributed Soviet assets, and even the shares of the people were overcome by fraudulent schemes. There were stocks. At first, salaries were not paid so that all these shares would be handed over for a dime, then they began to crumble and crush everything in order to safely write off the balances. The redemption of such shares “accidentally” became a penny, the demand for the redemption of shares “accidentally” came to the people half a month late. And what do I have left there? For 2018, as much as 7 rubles with a penny! from those bits that have not yet been written off. But someone had a new five-story yacht appeared in the same year ... Hocus Pocus, damn it ...
  25. evgen1221 14 February 2020 09: 00 New
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    So there was an application of the nest egg — with a light movement of the pen, it moves the people's money into its pocket. And you hold on.
  26. Mikhail3 14 February 2020 09: 53 New
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    After all, the purchase of shares in Sberbank is still an investment project
    That is, the NWF money that was previously deceased in this fund will be transferred for decease to the Central Bank, which, to put it mildly, is not famous for supporting our economy. And the Central Bank will probably go again to speculate with them on US bonds, with the usual result - US speculators will receive this money, and the Central Bank will calmly (and with impunity) report on "operating losses".
    That's the investment, edrena stick! And how will this help the country, well, just tears from the eyes, snot from the nose ...
  27. minus 17 February 2020 10: 13 New
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    **** Indeed, and what can be the profit from investments in Russian cities ... ****
    Partly disagree .... Housing, transport, etc. is also very important component of course .... But first of all, it is necessary to invest in industry ... In what directly affects the welfare of the state and population ...
  28. AleBors 17 February 2020 18: 51 New
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    A new "big hap" is planned ...
  29. fif21 17 February 2020 19: 03 New
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    Buying Sberbank is a good investment. Finally, we realized that the budget can be replenished not only with taxes, fines .... but also with dividends from profitable companies. But Sberbank, this is not an ice, more promising for the Government to have an online bank like Tinkoff with block chain technologies. hi
  30. vik669 18 February 2020 16: 49 New
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    Yes, now the servants will probably have to saw and saw without days off!