Kiev refused to supply water to Crimea before its "de-occupation"

Kiev refused to supply water to Crimea before its "de-occupation"

Ukraine will not supply water to the Crimean peninsula under any conditions until "it is under occupation." The relevant decision was made today by the relevant committee of the Verkhovna Rada. This was announced by the deputy from the faction of the European Solidarity Party Alexei Goncharenko.


At a meeting of the relevant committee, the issue of a possible resumption of water supplies to the Crimea on various conditions was discussed, but it was decided that there would be no supplies until the “de-occupation” of the peninsula.

The Verkhovna Rada Committee on Human Rights, De-occupation and Reintegration of the Occupied Territories of Crimea and Donbass, National Minorities and Interethnic Relations Decided on the impossibility of supplying water to Crimea before its de-occupation

- Goncharenko wrote on his page in Telegram.

Recall that earlier the head of the "Servant of the People" faction, David Arahamia, said that it is possible to exchange water supplies to Crimea through the North Crimean Canal for Russian concessions in the Donbass, and ex-president of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk proposed to "just sell" water to Crimea.

In Crimea, they criticized the proposal of Arahamia and stated that "they do not change people for water." The Kremlin stressed that Crimea could not be subject to any exchanges.
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  1. shark 13 February 2020 11: 42 New
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    Eventually. What will be done with water in Crimea? The problem is worth it. For 6 years, many attempts have been made to rectify the situation. But there is still no solution .. And if in the mountainous and coastal Crimea with water, everything is poorly poor, it seems not very bad. That northern and central Crimea without water is getting worse. And in the Soviet years, such crops were taken there ...
    1. Thrall 13 February 2020 11: 50 New
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      All you need to know about deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine:
      1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 11: 52 New
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        Deputies are clowns, the clown president is okay. And where is 30 million civil society?
        Or from them it is possible, as with plasticine, to sculpt what you want?

        PS minus no minus, slave, but I will dunk you in it every day.

        1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 15 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          And where is 30 million civil society?


          Very good question!
        2. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 12: 32 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          PS minus no minus, slave, but I will dunk you in it every day.

          That's right, dunk and dunk again!
          1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 12: 59 New
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            dunk and dunk again!


            1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 40 New
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              Crush him, crush !!!

              Masterpiece good
        3. Den717 13 February 2020 12: 47 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          And where is 30 million civil society?

          In the kitchens ... They are waiting for the end of all this ....., the coming of a good ruler, distributing the benefits of civilization, and all without questions and calls to tear the nurse from the sofa.
          1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 43 New
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            Quote: Den717
            Waiting for the end of all this ....., the coming of a good ruler,

            They waited. Presclown threw them in all directions
            And they are waiting for "Russia will come, restore order"
          2. Kronos 13 February 2020 17: 23 New
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            And what do they care about the fact that someone in the Crimea does not have water since he is now in Russia?
            1. cat Rusich 14 February 2020 21: 30 New
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              Kronos - residents of Ukraine wassat still do not recognize the Crimea as part of Russia. According to the logic of a (healthy person), it is unreasonable to deprive those who you consider your citizens of water ... to put it mildly. But talking about the "health" of the inhabitants of Ukraine wassat separate topic.
              1. Kronos 14 February 2020 21: 31 New
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                Not residents but the authorities of Ukraine
                1. cat Rusich 14 February 2020 21: 40 New
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                  The answer to your comment about “30 million civil society” in Ukraine, which does not care about the “thirst” of people living in Crimea because Crimea is in Russia.
        4. Erich 13 February 2020 12: 48 New
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          And you did not think that 30 million civil society did not care about this situation?
          1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 12: 59 New
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            And you did not think that 30 million civil society did not care about this situation?


            it can’t just be. This is hardship. Decay. The fall in living standards.
            Direct effect on their wallet

            Yes, and a herd of baboons running with grenades, millions of trunks of illegal weapons in their hands, who will like it or leave them indifferent?
            1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 44 New
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              Quote: c-Petrov
              a herd of baboons running with grenades, millions of trunks of illegal weapons in their hands,

              That's why they sit and are silent
              1. Ross xnumx 13 February 2020 14: 16 New
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                Quote: Lipchanin
                That's why they sit and are silent

                But what about the famous:
                Grandfather found a grenade in the field,
                He took it and went to the Verkhovna Rada,
                Quietly crept and threw out the window:
                Grandfather is old - he doesn’t care ...
                1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 14: 19 New
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                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  But what about the famous:
                  Grandfather found a grenade in the field,
                  He took it and went to the Verkhovna Rada,
                  Quietly crept and threw out the window:
                  Grandfather is old - he doesn’t care ..

            2. 4ekist 13 February 2020 14: 03 New
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              As for the herd, I agree.
            3. 210ox 13 February 2020 14: 40 New
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              People are busy with the issue of survival, politics for them pah. Yes, and many are reformatted. And with Russian names and surnames. Note, in the ATO (parsing) mainly Russian speakers participate. Zapadentsev over the hill, they have achieved their goal.
        5. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 36 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          PS minus no minus, slave, but I will dunk you in it every day.

          We will help good
        6. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 41 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          . And where is 30 million civil society?

          Since the beginning of the Maidan. Mayahataskrai
          1. revnagan 13 February 2020 14: 20 New
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            Quote: Lipchanin
            Since the beginning of the Maidan. Mayahataskrai

            Why are you lying? The anti-Maidan mood in 2014 was very strong. Natsik was beaten in mortal combat by ordinary people throughout Ukraine, except for Bandera. But the West helped Bandera to the best of their ability: first of all, legally. It recognized all their actions as legitimate. Moral and material support in any corner of Ukraine. And the anti-Maidan, working on a voluntary basis, was not able to resist this. support and development from the side. People who went to Donbass to fight with Bandera have no opportunity to return, there is nowhere to return. And when it became clear that the Russian Federation was solving its problems, hiding behind the “Russian spring” and Donbass, that Ukraine was needed only as a colony, sober decided so: why run into a threat to life, health and any kind of well-being, if in return for one system of oppression you get another, exactly the same?
            1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 15: 51 New
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              Quote: revnagan
              Why are you lying? The anti-Maidan mood in 2014 was very strong.

              Mood. But not the case.
              Simple people across Ukraine beat Natsik with mortal combat

              I have not seen one video
              But it’s full of commercials like they beat Golden Eagle
              And when it became clear that the Russian Federation is solving its problems

              Have you bred this Bandera since the 90s, and Russia should have been engaged in it?
              Whose country is it?
              Who should live in it?
              : why run into a threat to life, health and any kind of welfare,

              Right. Russians should have
              run into a threat to life, health

              I well remember how in Odessa, in the house of Trade Unions, people burned and asked for help, and the same Odessa people walked nearby and filmed everything on their cell phones. What did some walk with strollers
              And after that you say that you have nothing to do with it and Russia is to blame?
        7. NEXUS 13 February 2020 14: 20 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          And where is 30 million civil society?

          They are waiting for the next Maidan, so that for these 30 million the fate of the country will be decided by a couple of tens of thousands of frostbitten and Judas bought with giblets.
      2. Patriot 1 13 February 2020 12: 07 New
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        So the same organization (USAID) composed the constitution for Russia in 1993.
      3. 4ekist 13 February 2020 14: 07 New
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        This clown from the picture should sit near the bucket in Lefortovo and crow.
    2. Nastia makarova 13 February 2020 11: 57 New
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      they won’t do anything, they said they would transfer to drought-resistant cultures
      1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 00 New
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        about! it is necessary for the Jews, they know how, for the money that you want to grow
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          1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 03 New
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            anyway, with the selection of drought-resistant varieties, they have everything in order
          2. bionik 13 February 2020 12: 11 New
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            They have a global water supply network (in particular, irrigation) throughout the country, a very complex structure from natural sources to wastewater treatment.
      2. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 46 New
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        Quote: Nastia Makarova
        won't do anything

        Will be. The bridge was built, non-volatility provided.
        It’s just a very complicated matter. In technical terms
        1. Nastia makarova 13 February 2020 13: 54 New
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          I didn’t hear that there were plans to stretch the conduit
          1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 58 New
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            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            I didn’t hear that there were plans to stretch the conduit


            Yes, it was somewhere right after the email. cables held there.
            And they didn’t tell anyone about the bridge until they started building
            1. Nastia makarova 13 February 2020 14: 12 New
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              yes it was at the rumor level
              1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 14: 21 New
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                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                yes it was at the rumor level

                Well no.
                It has long been. But it seems like someone from officialdom
                I do not remember.. recourse
                I will not argue ..
                1. Nastia makarova 13 February 2020 14: 24 New
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                  the main thing is that now there is nothing
                  1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 15: 52 New
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                    Quote: Nastia Makarova
                    the main thing is that now there is nothing

                    That is yes. The problem has not yet been resolved request
                  2. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 15: 58 New
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                    Below is a comment on this issue.
            2. 210ox 13 February 2020 14: 43 New
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              Pull water from the Kuban !? God forbid! We do not have enough water in the region; Crimea must manage with its resources.
              1. Nastia makarova 13 February 2020 15: 55 New
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                and if your own no resources?
        2. Ross xnumx 13 February 2020 14: 24 New
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          Quote: Lipchanin
          It’s just a very complicated matter. In technical terms

          - In what respect?
          - In the technical ...

          Is a 1200 mm pipe for gas not suitable for water? Or 370 km by land and a few km by sea is a great sadness? Lift stations were built and in one season they brought water to the Crimea from the Krasnodar reservoir to Crimea. It is necessary only technical.
          1. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 15: 57 New
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            Actually, to get started, you need to make a project
            It seems so simple from the sofa.
            "He took the pipe and threw the water"
            From where, where, on which way; how many pumping stations do you need?
            And a lot more.
            Let's start with the fact that we have only one pipe layer and only recently bought one
    3. Livonetc 13 February 2020 12: 05 New
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      For example, Cyprus has a similar problem.
      In northern Cyprus (occupied by Turkey), the problem was solved by laying a water conduit from Turkey along the bottom of the sea.
      In the Republic of Cyprus, a system of reservoirs was created in (about 108 reservoirs of different volumes), which accumulates spring runoff from the mountains.
      We started a program to create desalination facilities, but with the advent of fin. crisis program curtailed.
      In general, there are water problems now.
      Drinking water is mainly bought and delivered by tankers, in particular from Greece.

      In Crimea, a set of measures is required.
      This is the creation of new reservoirs, desalination plants, highly technologically advanced wastewater treatment systems, and laying a conduit from the mainland.
      The volume of groundwater for geological reasons is very limited, but it can also be taken into account.
      In the case of Crimea, very serious financial investments are required in the relevant infrastructure.
      And of course time, this problem cannot be solved at once.
      1. Ggc1 13 February 2020 13: 03 New
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        The ideal solution is to build a pipeline to the Crimea, to lay pipes for irrigation of land in the Crimea itself. And then with such problems with water - who will go to Crimea to have a rest if water is served on a clock basis and hot water on weekends?
        1. Po-tzan 13 February 2020 13: 53 New
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          Quote: GGC1
          And then with such problems with water - who will go to Crimea to have a rest if water is supplied hourly?


          Patriots who did not exchange their MOTHERLAND for Turkish ol-inclusive!
        2. gurzuf 13 February 2020 15: 45 New
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          We went and will go. On the South Coast, there are no problems with water supply and there have not been. Come, do not regret it.
      2. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 48 New
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        Quote: Livonetc
        And of course time, this problem cannot be solved at once.

        We need to design, calculate, find the money. Although the third is not the most difficult point
    4. Andrea 13 February 2020 12: 06 New
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      Crimea without water is getting worse. And in the Soviet years, such crops were taken there.

      Turkey supplies water to its part of Cyprus through a pipeline. They said “A” with the Bridge, “B” should be said with water.
    5. iouris 13 February 2020 12: 57 New
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      Quote: shark
      What will be done with water in Crimea?

      And it turns out, without water and neither tudes nor syudes ... If Crimea is the Russian Federation, then shutting off water to the Crimea is aggression. The only possible response to aggression is power. Israel will understand you.
    6. Piramidon 13 February 2020 13: 02 New
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      Quote: shark
      The problem is worth it. For 6 years, many attempts have been made to rectify the situation. But there is still no solution.

      The problem is being solved.
      Thanks to the support of the Ministry of Natural Resources of Russia, a project was implemented in Crimea to use groundwater to organize water supply for the population of the peninsula. In particular, in September 2016, the construction of three water intakes was completed, 36 wells were drilled, the total volume of water supplied amounted to 195 thousand cubic meters. m per day, which made it possible to provide drinking water to about 400 thousand residents of the Eastern Crimea according to a temporary scheme that is still in use.

      The construction of the water supply path from the above water intakes will be completed by 2022. Feodosia, Sudak, Kerch, as well as the settlements of the Leninsky district will be fully provided with high-quality drinking water. In some Crimean villages, in which water was supplied hourly for 15-20 years, round-the-clock water supply was established.

      https://tass.ru/ekonomika/6966385
    7. Po-tzan 13 February 2020 13: 47 New
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      Quote: shark
      Eventually. What will be done with water in Crimea? The problem is worth it. For 6 years, many attempts have been made to rectify the situation. But there is still no solution .. And if in the mountainous and coastal Crimea with water, everything is poorly poor, it seems not very bad. That northern and central Crimea without water is getting worse. And in the Soviet years, such crops were taken there ...


      Filmed. Because the Soviet leadership understood the dependence of Crimea on fresh water from mainland Ukraine. They like to blame Khrushchev for the “fool and tyrant”, not realizing that he connected the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR not because of the desire of the left heel, but because without it the Crimea (except, perhaps, a narrow coastal strip) could turn into a saline desert in a few years, and the soil will pickle.



      1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 14: 47 New
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        Is Khrushchev not a criminal ?! He shot unarmed hungry people in Tbilisi and Novocherkassk, came to power by means of a military coup, instead of correcting the mistakes of Lenin, who transferred the land of Russia under the occupation of Ukraine and forcibly Ukrainized, he gave Crimea to Ukraine instead. .. ALL YOUR Ukraine on the map of 1654, within the borders of which it came to Russia from Poland, is not present in other places of Ukraine, was not and is not necessary ... The UNR map is not an argument, since it was painted in Lviv by Grushevsky with German money , who didn’t even have power in Lviv (Germans ruled there) but in Kharkov even more so!
        1. Po-tzan 13 February 2020 15: 12 New
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          Quote: Sapsan136
          Is Khrushchev not a criminal ?!


          Criminal. Criminal and traitor.
          As soon as Lenin died, it turned out that the second person in the party, Comrade Trotsky, was a traitor.
          Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrew Trotsky and expelled from the USSR.
          But after a couple of years it became clear that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin are also enemies and pests.
          Then the valiant comrade Heinrich Yagoda arrested them.
          And a little later, Yezhov arrested Yagoda as an enemy agent.
          But after a couple of years it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but an ordinary traitor and an enemy agent.
          And Yezhov arrested Beria. After the death of Stalin, everyone understood that Beria was also a traitor. Then Zhukov arrested Beria.
          But soon Khrushchev learned that Zhukov was an enemy and a conspirator.
          And he sent Zhukov to the Urals.
          And later it was revealed that Stalin was an enemy, a pest and a traitor.
          And with it, and most of the Politburo.
          Then Stalin was taken out of the mausoleum, and the political bureau, comrades Molotov, Malenkov, Kaganovich and Shepilov, who joined them, were dispersed by honest party members led by Khrushchev.
          Several years passed and it turned out that Khrushchev was a voluntarist, a rogue, an adventurer and an enemy. Then Brezhnev sent Khrushchev to retire.
          Soon Brezhnev died, and it turned out that he was a pest and the cause of stagnation.
          Then there were two more that no one had time to remember. But then a young, energetic Gorbachev came to power. And it turned out that the whole party was a gathering of pests and enemies, but he will fix everything right now.
          It was then that the USSR collapsed.
    8. Crimean partisan 1974 13 February 2020 14: 20 New
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      That the northern and central Crimea is getting worse without water ....... why did they take it and the offshore is such bad information ???? probably before injecting such nonsense it wouldn’t hurt to come and see what it’s like in the northern Crimea, and if not, then it’s not necessary to expose nonsense
      1. Zaval 13 February 2020 14: 55 New
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        As a resident of the northern Crimea, Krasnoperekopsk, I will say this: industry, chemical have problems with water, since it was created under the technological cycle with high water consumption. In agriculture, since moisture-loving crops were grown, the whole north of Crimea grew rice, but they do not know how to grow other crops, they do not know them, they are afraid of them and therefore cry about how good it was to grow rice with excess water.
        Due to the fact that chemical enterprises were forced to switch to pumping artesian water and use it in the technological process, only one Crimean soda plant drilled 10 wells on its territory to a depth of 100 meters, a problem arose with the quality of water supplied to the population, there was salinization of water , who are interested then here is the link to the official source
        http://krp-rk.ru/index.php/mm-news/through-the-pages-of-the-media/22257-20200128-1
        , as the population receives water from the same horizon. All this is compounded by a very high (over 40%) loss of drinking water due to the deterioration of water supply networks, water mains and intracity networks.
        My personal opinion is the solution to this problem by reconstructing the enterprises, the Titan plants and the Crimean Soda Plant, in order to change the technological process, repair the water supply system, in order to reduce or eliminate losses, the sewage system and water treatment, to ensure the possibility of using wastewater treated water in the technological process of enterprises and agriculture. The introduction of drought-resistant crops into the region’s agriculture, which is already being done, but not enough, is a fear of new crops, farmers do not know how to grow, they don’t know the market, and they are banally afraid to fly on sale. Therefore, these cultures should go on public procurement for some time.
        We don’t even hope for water in the canal. Yes, and the canal bed, which is dry, with potholes, sometimes destroyed by a concrete coating, which even in Ukraine had up to 30% losses due to seeping through the canal, is hardly capable of receiving water after 5 years of dry downtime without major repairs, there will be promo and breakthroughs of the channel with flooding of villages.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 13 February 2020 21: 00 New
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          there is a fear of new cultures, ....... I remember in the zero years I worked part-time as a huckster. so they in Voynka were selling potatoes with wagons in the private sector, I didn’t see the rice market even there, and the potatoes were valid, it does not seem like the private trader was watering from the CCM back then, so I don’t know how to rice. it is extremely expensive in our Nizhny Novgorod region. without subsidies nor how. because he died back in the late 90s
          1. Zaval 13 February 2020 22: 21 New
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            Rice was grown from Armyansk to Ilyinka and towards Razdolny, some solid checks were even along the roads. Everything went under the rice where you could plan for the checks. In Voinka, Pervomaisk and beyond rice was not planted, it was not profitable. Tom was irrigated land for grain, they are now, only with irrigation is difficult. Private owners planting potatoes, onions, melons, and urban crops were planted independently, using pumps and fire hoses, watering from the CCM or paying water to the Water Management Department. Now it’s hard for them. Farmers are offered to grow flax, camelina, coriander, essential oil, to remember the abandoned and cut down gardens .... This is what they are afraid of, they don’t know, they don’t know how to grow, and the gardens are long. Therefore, the fifth year they plant sunflower corn, not observing the crop rotation, finally finishing the soil.
            And even in Ukraine it’s not a bad business - direct exchange of rice, including for potatoes, which were brought from Volyn and Chernihiv oblast.
      2. shark 13 February 2020 15: 11 New
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        Well, here’s how you understand it - "The gardens of the northern Crimea ordered a long life, .... not at all! This is one comment and then the next one -" And the fields and gardens die without Dnieper water in Crimea .. "Next on the list))) - "Water left for 900-100 days" ---- well, here either you messed up with zeros or really "900 days", in general, cubes are estimated per hour and not days, nights ..... "and again the antagonism -" what stocks water for Simferopol left for 90-100 days ....... this is not news .. "
        You do not have a split personality case, dear "
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 13 February 2020 20: 48 New
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          Well, here's how to understand you .... first, your quote. after my dots, about "and again the antagonism -" "that the water supply for Simferopol is 90-100 days" "why would it be the antogonism ??? it is printed with the interest that every stupid creature evaluating the water reserves in days is not news. there are a lot of controls on the levers, well, so how about a split?
    9. zloybond 13 February 2020 14: 26 New
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      He began to die during the reign of Ukraine. Now the situation is getting better without Ukrainian participation. The weather presented gifts in general. Without strangers, everything will be decided.
    10. 210ox 13 February 2020 14: 27 New
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      What is getting worse? Rice growing. And completely. It is necessary to change the structure of cultivated products and technology. The same drip irrigation. You cannot go far in the carriage of the past. The world is full of arid areas with developed agriculture. For utility needs, there is water in the Crimea.
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    12. iouris 14 February 2020 00: 03 New
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      Quote: shark
      What will be done with water in Crimea?

      They will envy. There will be no water until the de-occupation of Kiev.
  2. DMB 75 13 February 2020 11: 42 New
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    Fascists. What else can I say ... Inhumans .. Burn in hell.
    1. figwam 13 February 2020 12: 00 New
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      It wasn’t necessary to pay billions to these tricks.
      1. NEXUS 13 February 2020 14: 22 New
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        Quote: figvam
        It wasn’t necessary to pay billions to these tricks.

        It was not necessary to give these earhooks in the year 14 to raise their heads, so that after not having hemorrhoids in their abdomen in the form of the Nazi regime and NATO bases.
    2. Grandfather Crimea 13 February 2020 12: 24 New
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      The curse is not a harmless affair (((((People need to live now, and not when, but there is no way out. Until there is (
      1. Crimean partisan 1974 13 February 2020 14: 25 New
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        but there is no way out. Until then (........ you grandfather overslept the way out on the stove, so go about 4 years since there was no need for Dnieper water, and there wasn’t any, the steppe Crimea, even under the tsar peas, ate water from artesian wells, and to this day, only that has changed, and there have become even more underground technical wells, and the people have learned how to use the techie wisely, I don’t understand what panic is
    3. mikh-korsakov 13 February 2020 13: 27 New
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      Here is what interests me. And they (the Ukrainian authorities) someone from the Russian Federation asked to supply water to the Crimea? I don’t know, and I’m 100% sure that they didn’t ask. Then why are they so excited? Nobody has invited them yet. Yes, and hardly ask. Hurts scum character.
    4. Po-tzan 13 February 2020 13: 57 New
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      Quote: DMB 75
      Fascists. What else can I say ... Inhumans .. Burn in hell.


      But will Crimeans not humiliatingly drink Bandera-fascist water? Type of pity and handoff from 404. It is necessary to streio the water supply from Rostov and divide the water regime on an equal basis between the residents of the Rostov region and Crimea.
      1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 14: 51 New
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        But Ukrainians do not humiliate drink Russian water, because 60% of the water in the Dnieper from the Russian Federation ?! But is it not humiliating for Ukrainians to go to work in the Russian Federation, to the invaders? !! Maybe the Russian Federation closes the border and let Zelensky feed them, it’s enough to gobble up Russia, and the Russian Federation itself needs water in the Volga and Don and is not obliged to supply Ukraine to the Russian Federation !!!
  3. bessmertniy 13 February 2020 11: 43 New
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    Does Crimea need water from Ukraine? what It somehow gets by after Kiev cut off the service. But Ukraine was left without the money that it received for water.
    1. Fibrizio 13 February 2020 11: 49 New
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      First of all, it is needed not by people, but by agricultural and production facilities. It is people there right enough. And the Russian Federation is now putting it on the world stage as it is precisely the population that is thirsty.
      Remember the gas poisoning of some village there? Everything happened due to the vapors of the settlers of the chemical plant. Actually without water, he died as they later wrote (one example).
      This earns points among the cheers-patriots (an external enemy, we are good), the second spoils the rating of Ukraine among the inhabitants over the hill.
      Therefore, Ukrainians quite logically do not sell water for doing business in their former territory. We would not be in their place either.
      1. bessmertniy 13 February 2020 11: 52 New
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        Well, yes - what they need they buy from us, and what we need - they do not sell. It is for such their "principle" that must be punished. negative
        1. Erich 13 February 2020 12: 51 New
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          Let Russia not sell then what Ukraine needs, what is the problem? I think that Ukrainians themselves will decide what, to whom and where to sell (including water). If Russia sees this as a problem, then let it invest and build pipelines and create ecosystems, what is the problem?
        2. revnagan 13 February 2020 14: 26 New
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          Well, yes - what they need they buy from us, and what we need - they do not sell.

          Well, you don’t sell to Ukraine. request . This is the market. Offer a price that will interest the seller.
      2. Horon 13 February 2020 12: 17 New
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        We would not be in their place either.

        Do not invent, Russia has given and continues to give much of this lost territory, even though there are many Russophobes in this territory.
        1. Fibrizio 13 February 2020 12: 58 New
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          What are we giving them?
          Maybe you wanted to say we are trading so that some grows can work and jobs do not close? This is because the economy. For example, we cannot take and stop selling gas / oil. Firstly, they are no longer ours, secondly, then the budget will go down, and we will eat biscuits (especially all kinds of state employees, including military men).
        2. revnagan 13 February 2020 14: 27 New
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          Do not invent, Russia has given and continues to give much of this lost territory

          Giving and Selling at world prices are two big differences, as they say in Odessa. So do not invent it yourself.
          1. Horon 13 February 2020 14: 48 New
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            Crimea didn’t take water for free either, but Melitopol gave money for gas, or: “what’s mine is mine, what’s not mine is mine anyway”?
            1. revnagan 13 February 2020 20: 21 New
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              "that mine is mine, that mine is not mine anyway"?

              Well, Russia did just that. But nobody said for "not free". Russia didn’t like "hanging out", and Ukraine did not like the price of water (did anyone try to bargain?). Everything has its own price, but the seller the right to set a price that suits him. Or look for another one. So with oil for Belarus or gas for Ukraine?
      3. garrett 13 February 2020 12: 52 New
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        Therefore, Ukrainians quite logically do not sell water for doing business in their former territory. We would not be in their place either.

        YOU, perhaps, did not begin, speak for yourself! But I’ll remind you that during the civil conflict in Chechnya, gas, water and electricity, and even ... oh, horror ... were paid pensions and social programs (at least we tried how it was distributed there another question)
        1. revnagan 13 February 2020 14: 31 New
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          Quote: Garrett
          But I’ll remind you that during the civil conflict in Chechnya, gas was supplied, water supply, electricity, and even ... about the horror ... pensions and social programs were paid (

          HA! Three times! Russia did this for its territory. For propaganda purposes, they say, even though you kick, but still ours, you will not go anywhere. Moreover, look, the STATE is taking care of you. Russia is the same claims that Crimea is no longer Ukrainian. Well, let him try to live, if not Ukrainian.
          1. garrett 13 February 2020 14: 41 New
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            Russia did this for its territory. For propaganda purposes

            what's the difference why Russia did this ???? but in fact there were actions refuting your logic. For myself, I could not find a reasonable explanation for why it was necessary to shut off the water. What drives the corn authorities ??? Economic interest - no, humanitarian interests - no, damage the achhresor - and there isn’t either))) Offended pride of embroiderers and mejlis))) it’s like with a blockade of donbass - a shot in your leg, they buy the same coal, only with margin, which remains in Russia and Belarus))))
            1. revnagan 13 February 2020 14: 44 New
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              Quote: Garrett
              For myself, I could not find a reasonable explanation for why it was necessary to shut off the water.

              Well, I can explain. In order to inflict maximum economic damage on an unfriendly state (oil and gas for Ukraine, at world prices, remember), and to weaken it in the future. Plus, to arouse discontent among Crimean residents with the inability of the Russian authorities to solve their problems. Plus show that not so much Russia and mighty. For coal from Donbass, they can buy with margin, but since everyone knows that this coal is “bodyazhny”, margin is minuscule. And the gesheft have Russian-Ukrainian miners who take coal in Donbass BELOW the cost for a penny (after all, it’s illegal, how can I sell it for expensive?). And Russia subsidizes the Donbass, which also does not add financial health to it. And the actions “refuting ... logic” were carried out in outwardly similar, but completely different in essence conditions .
              1. garrett 13 February 2020 15: 55 New
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                To inflict maximum economic damage on an unfriendly state

                um ... but what is the damage ??? refusal to grow rice in the Crimea ??? this is a turn (s)
                and in weakening thereof in the future

                O RLY? this is a strategist)))) talent !!!)))
                arouse discontent among residents of the Crimea by the inability of the Russian authorities to solve their problems

                So how is it??? excited ??? or residents of the Crimea began to recall Nenko more often with an unkind quiet word?
                Plus show that it’s not such a Russian Federation and mighty

                to whom to show ??? what kind of reasoning at the high school level?
                On coal

                and with what do they carry coal?
                coal is supplied to corn LEGALLY, through several gasket companies, as a result, the cost of coal increases significantly, so where did you get what they charge below cost ??? proofs will be ??
                And the actions "refuting ... logic" were carried out in outwardly similar, but completely different in essence conditions.

                dear Captain Obviousness, but it didn’t occur to you that EVERYTHING in the world of civil wars looks alike, but absolutely in essentially different conditions))))
                ps Sorry, but you'd better be silent repeat
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                  um ... but what is the damage ??? refusal to grow rice in the Crimea ??? this is a turn (s)

                  Well, not only rice. Closed production, Emissions from storage (there is no water). Other agricultural and agricultural products. That is, instead of profit, Russia incurs losses. And it still has to invest additional funds in maintaining Crimea. Cheap water for Crimea, and even in necessary quantities, the basis of life. Have you not read George Tushkan’s book “The First Shot”? My favorite book in my youth. There is a description of what water was for Crimea (events take place during the civil war in Russia). This is the very first knowledge . And then, of course, I learned more.
                  Quote: Garrett
                  O RLY? this is a strategist)))) talent !!!)))

                  Well, a little grain chicken ...
                  Quote: Garrett
                  So how is it??? excited ??? or residents of the Crimea began to recall Nenko more often with an unkind quiet word?

                  Even pundits do not always get the effect that they expect before the experiment. What do you expect from Western ragul? "Let's try and see what comes of it." A children's strategy. But the Crimeans also made their choice. And for everything, This world has to pay.
                  Quote: Garrett
                  to whom to show ??? what kind of reasoning at the high school level?

                  See above for “raguli”.
                  Quote: Garrett
                  and with what do they carry coal?

                  Oh my God, pennies for fish ... Yes, there was already an article on how to buy coal from Donbass mines at a cheap price for a penny, "body" it with Russian (for example, Vorkutinsky), and sell it as "purely Russian." Well, look for yourself, do not be lazy. The whole world knows about it, but everyone is happy with everything (except for the miners), and the gesheft is put on a pocket.
                  Quote: Garrett
                  important Captain Obviousness, but it didn’t occur to you that EVERYTHING in the world of civil wars looks alike, but absolutely in essentially different conditions))))

                  Nevertheless, you compare these wars as completely identical, and don’t understand why Ukraine doesn’t act like Russia? "And these people forbid me to pick my nose ?!" request .
                  Quote: Garrett
                  ps Sorry, but you'd better be silent

                  Sorry, but when I need your advice on what to do, I will ask you for it.
                  1. garrett 14 February 2020 09: 07 New
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                    I understand you now ... you tried to convey THEIR logic to me. But I consider this logic flawed and destructive, and as I understand it, you think the same. Then what are we arguing about?))))
                    1. revnagan 14 February 2020 14: 39 New
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                      Then what are we arguing about?))))

                      And we don’t argue. You are trying to convey to me your logic, which I consider to be destructive and flawed. So to say, exchanged views, realized that it would not be possible to force the opponent to accept their point of view, and dispersed like ships at sea. Yes, from the point of view Raguley and their "logic" I do not agree with the word, absolutely, but to convince anyone of this ... I see no reason to waste time.
      4. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 51 New
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        We would not be in their place either.

        We would have blocked the Dnieper in their place
    2. New Year day 13 February 2020 11: 49 New
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      Somehow the same ...

      ... is doing poorly! Groundwater is used and it is replaced by sea water. Nature does not tolerate emptiness!
      1. bessmertniy 13 February 2020 11: 59 New
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        If you found an opportunity to lay a gas pipeline to Turkey along the bottom of the Black Sea, then, probably, it would be possible to extend main pipelines along the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov to Crimea. Although expensive, they built a bridge! hi
        1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 06 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          it will be possible and main water conduits along the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov

          I don’t remember the details anymore, but in a nutshell: Don is becoming shallow, the land level relative to the sea in Crimea is higher
          1. bessmertniy 13 February 2020 12: 08 New
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            No problem to put a pressure station.
            1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 29 New
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              Quote: bessmertniy
              No problem to put a pressure station.

              Where to get water for pumping?
              1. Ross xnumx 13 February 2020 14: 49 New
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                Where to get water for pumping?

                From the Dnieper ... wassat Make a tap from Tsimlyansk reservoir, lay a tap from Krasnodar. Connect together and serve in the Crimea. The total length of about 1000 km. But this will solve the issue completely. Who argues is not easy. But this should be done, and not hold festivals and arrange festivities when people in Crimea become hostages of fresh water.
              2. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 14: 55 New
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                To direct the water that flows from the rivers of Russia to the Ukrainian Dnieper, to the Don and Volga, to the benefit of the Russian Federation!
                1. Piramidon 13 February 2020 17: 06 New
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                  Quote: Sapsan136
                  To direct the water that flows from the rivers of Russia to the Ukrainian Dnieper, to the Don and Volga

                  Cheaper pipe from the Irtysh or Ob.
                  1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 21: 33 New
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                    Not cheaper ... The rivers that can be sent to the Don and Volga are higher from them, with the flow, you only need a canal ... This is much closer than dragging water from Siberia ...
                    1. Piramidon 13 February 2020 22: 26 New
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                      How much of the Dnieper flows through Russia and how much water can be taken from it? The main part of the current in Belarus and Ukraine. And in Russia it flows west, and you are going to turn it in the opposite direction. request
                      1. Sapsan136 15 February 2020 11: 43 New
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                        Most of the water comes from the Russian Federation, dozens of rivers and streams flow into the Dnieper, see the map and listen less to Svidomo
                      2. Piramidon 15 February 2020 11: 53 New
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                        listen less Svidomo

                        Fantasy less on river turning. In Soviet times, this has already passed. hi
                      3. Sapsan136 15 February 2020 13: 11 New
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                        In Soviet times, they made the Belomorkanal, in fact, I propose to do the same, and not utopia with the turn of Siberian rivers, everything is real here ...
                      4. Piramidon 15 February 2020 13: 37 New
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                        In Soviet times, made Belomorkanal

                        The Belomorkanal is a purely navigable structure and water is not transferred from one river to another on it. You, however, are proposing to revive the Soviet utopia with the transfer of water from the Dnieper to the Don and Volga. Your words?
                        Rivers that can be sent to the Don and Volga ...
                      5. Sapsan136 16 February 2020 00: 48 New
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                        The Soviet utopia consisted in transferring water from distant Siberian rivers, what I propose, a relatively short canal, from one neighboring river to another ... And there are no global problems ... Moreover, in my proposal there is no need to reverse the river, they all flow from north to south and southwest ...
  • Grandfather Crimea 13 February 2020 12: 27 New
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    This phenomenon is temporary, the balance is greatly violated, this is not a way out ((
    1. bessmertniy 13 February 2020 12: 37 New
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      You can try with desalination of sea water. This is a little expensive according to the experience of Mangyshlak, but, as a way out, it is quite acceptable. Of course, it’s not very cool to use atomic energy for this. But, I think, there are bright heads in our kingdom - they can come up with a way out so that there is no dependence on Ukraine in this resource. hi
      1. New Year day 13 February 2020 16: 50 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy

        You can try with desalination of sea water. It's a little expensive

        So in Chukotka there is!
  • tihonmarine 13 February 2020 12: 37 New
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    Quote: bessmertniy
    Does Crimea need water from Ukraine? It somehow gets by after Kiev cut off the service. But Ukraine was left without the money that it received for water.

    The whole world is trying to sell everything in order to earn money, but Svidomo, always live by the proverb "Do not drink, duck bite." The amazing country of the fox Alice and the cat Basilio.
    1. Erich 13 February 2020 12: 53 New
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      Nuuu, as they want, they do so. They have a right))
      1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 13: 12 New
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        Nuuu, as they want, they do so. They have a right

        Well, yes. "My ass, I want milk, I want food."
        1. Erich 13 February 2020 13: 35 New
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          Namely)) But for some reason, in Russia everyone is terrified as one wants to "leave something around" with something "bad". I don’t understand why)) Doesn’t live peacefully?))
          1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 16: 12 New
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            But for some reason, in Russia, everyone is terrified of how to “leave something around” like “something bad”. I do not understand why

            Russia rushes, and the rest sit in moderation and silently wipe the feces from their faces. Do not tell the "bug" it is already so funny.
        2. karabass 13 February 2020 13: 36 New
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          Are donkeys milked? (donkey)
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            Are donkeys milked? (donkey)

            Once a year lol
          2. bycharashkO 13 February 2020 14: 47 New
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            Are donkeys milked? (donkey)

            there is a slightly different verb, something like "LOVE", but from 3 letters :-)
          3. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 16: 15 New
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            Are donkeys milked? (donkey)

            They get it, and how they milk it, but not with their hands. You do it pretty well.
            1. karabass 13 February 2020 16: 27 New
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              And what do you make from baked milk? Or is it your secret?
              1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 17: 44 New
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                And what do you make from baked milk?

                I sell to Ukraine, they say it helps.
    2. Lipchanin 13 February 2020 13: 53 New
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      e "Do not drink, duck bite."

      1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 16: 18 New
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        Only they can not spoil the goods for themselves.
  • denplot 13 February 2020 11: 44 New
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    It is necessary to make the North Crimean Canal the property of the Russian Federation. Throughout, along with the areas in which it passes.
    1. New Year day 13 February 2020 11: 50 New
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      Quote: denplot
      It is necessary to make the North Crimean Canal the property of the Russian Federation. All over


      What is it like? The implementation of what has been said?
      1. paul3390 13 February 2020 11: 58 New
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        To do this, it was only necessary not to stop the Donetsk men in 2015. To finish off the junta. But they decided to exchange the chance of victory for a snotty senseless tyagomotin .. But what smart trump cards were dealt - we had the legitimate president of Tsagabonia, plus an absolutely not legitimate coup .. What game could be played! Eh ..
        1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 07 New
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          had to not stop


          This is in the past!
          How to implement new colleagues plans?
          1. paul3390 13 February 2020 12: 11 New
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            Exactly the same. It’s possible to shut off any trade with Tsegabony, especially - in terms of fuel and lubricants, and after the next shelling, tell Donetsk - men. For only a complete military and political defeat of the 404th can solve all pressing problems.
            1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 12 New
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              Block any trade

              What prevents to do this for 6 years?
              1. paul3390 13 February 2020 12: 45 New
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                The question is not for me. My last name is not Putin. In general, this is a vivid example of how, under capitalism, the benefit outweighs any state interests .. For the loot, the bourgeois will sell his Motherland and his mother.
                1. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 59 New
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                  In general, this is a vivid example of how, under capitalism, the benefit outweighs any state interests .. For the loot, the bourgeois will sell his Motherland and his mother.

                  +
        2. vonWolfenstein 13 February 2020 12: 11 New
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          I absolutely agree with you, the moment was missed, and even worse, the unresolved conflict, the heated dissatisfaction of the people with economic problems due to sanctions destructively affect Russian society. As far back as the year 14, dotted econ. sanctions, deportations, and embargoes could undermine the junta’s regime. But they didn’t do this, sparing people like "You’re occupiers, but give me money, I’ll at least buy a bronik for him" (an article on those years)
          1. Erich 13 February 2020 12: 57 New
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            Think sorry? Maybe they just couldn’t? There is still an option: multi-path))
        3. Grandfather Crimea 13 February 2020 12: 42 New
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          Far these men would not have passed.
          The problem of water in the Crimea was always acute. At the beginning of 90 (he lived in Sevastopol), water was supplied hourly, white with chlorine, and did not rise high on floors due to low pressure.
          And the stupid developments of the mountains didn’t violate the water horizons? ..... This was the case under the Soviets and with the independence. Ownerlessness. The Crimean Tatars before WWII, plugged the cracks at the bottom of the reservoirs with skins, and the Balaklava mine administration, explosions of the rock ..... It’s clear that we need additives, but not in the same place as the Crimea, the scientists “fought”, but there was a “machine- USSR ice rink .....
      2. Piramidon 13 February 2020 13: 08 New
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        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: denplot
        It is necessary to make the North Crimean Canal the property of the Russian Federation. All over


        What is it like? The implementation of what has been said?

        This is just to say something for the pluses.
    2. Fibrizio 13 February 2020 11: 50 New
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      And what will civilized countries think after that? What do we take that we want by right of the strong and do not understand the words? Only power?
      1. denplot 13 February 2020 11: 55 New
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        Yes, let them want something and think. Just them, civilized only understand power. There are no examples
      2. St Petrov 13 February 2020 11: 56 New
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        And what will civilized countries think after that?

        finally, the Russians smashed this malignant neoplasm, sucking money into a bottomless hole
        1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 01 New
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          but they will still stink, about Russian aggression
          1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 12: 02 New
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            but they will still stink, about Russian aggression


            it's time to match. And then some sort of empty
            1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 03 New
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              but here I agree! drinks good
          2. paul3390 13 February 2020 12: 16 New
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            Actually - we got sanctions anyway, so even if it weren’t so offensive, we should justify them. Breaking the ancient ukraine and eliminating this misunderstanding - Ukraine. More precisely - leaving her within historical boundaries.
            1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 17 New
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              to begin with, at least inflict air strikes from their space on ukrov batteries as soon as they start firing
              1. paul3390 13 February 2020 12: 20 New
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                In-in .. To the same Erdogan, for some reason this is permissible, not to mention the staff, but you see, we’re embarrassed ... Oh, what will Europe say ... Ugh.
                1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 32 New
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                  I actually meant Jewish practice
              2. St Petrov 13 February 2020 12: 26 New
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                from its space aerial attacks on ukrov batteries


                it’s easier to spread headquarters with iskander. and leave one for the dam. Victims minimum - effect - maximum.
                1. novel66 13 February 2020 12: 32 New
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                  possible, possible and iskander, but aviation means more precisely
            2. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 12: 22 New
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              Breaking the ancient ukraine and eliminating this misunderstanding - Ukraine

              It seems to me, my friend, you are a provocateur.
              1. paul3390 13 February 2020 12: 24 New
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                As I understand it - Tsegabonets? What is scary?
                1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 12: 48 New
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                  As I understand it - Tsegabonets? What is scary?

                  So I was not mistaken - a provocateur.
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                    And I. Tsegabonets.
                    1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 12: 57 New
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                      100% provocateur!
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                        100% tsegabonets.
            3. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 15: 06 New
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              And then feed the unfinished Bandera, as in the USSR ?! We don’t need this! With Sumeria, it is necessary, as with Koenigsberg, to liberate the lands of Russia illegally given to the Banderaites Lenin and Khrushchev, to evict Bandera and Basmachi from the Russian Federation, as the Germans from Koenigsberg and to populate these lands with their own people ...
      3. Bumblebee_3 13 February 2020 12: 03 New
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        Fibrizio (Alexander)
        And what did “civilized countries” say when Israel smashed the Iranian nuclear center with bombing? Do you remember that? As for me, so, if Russia has a Faberge, then for a long time it was necessary to carry this dam to the Benin mom. We are called agressors, so let them feel on their own skin how the aggressor acts in reality.
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          And what did “civilized countries” say when Israel smashed the Iranian nuclear center with bombing?

          With all due respect, have you forgotten whose roof Israel is under? This is exactly the nuance in which the devil lies.
          By the way, we must also remember Cyprus ...
    3. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 11: 56 New
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      It is necessary to make the North Crimean Canal the property of the Russian Federation.

      For example, how?
      1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 11: 58 New
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        For example, how?

        how the Jews solved the issue of water, for example. Exactly the same methods.

        1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 12: 07 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          how the Jews solved the issue of water, for example. Exactly the same methods.

          Bite off a piece of a neighbor? Do you seriously think this is real?
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            Bite off a piece of a neighbor?


            they gave the hut to the neighbor for good reason and as a gesture of goodwill, and he carries it, expands (spreads his family) and prevents neighbors from living, blocking the water. it's time to clarify.

            A punch on the face of a drug addict will certainly not cure, but you must exchange the hut. Of course, no one needs to be thrown into the street, but now only a dorm room on the outskirts of the universe, instead of a spacious apartment.

            1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 12: 56 New
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              Quote: c-Petrov
              it's time to clarify.

              So still bite? Do you continue to consider this a reality?
              Try really exchanging the hut of a drug addict neighbor. Not to mention poking a fist in the face. You’ll be closed according to his statement ...
              1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 14: 01 New
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                Try really exchanging the hut of a drug addict neighbor.


                Now we are dealing with just such a problem with the whole entrance. They burned their hut before the deformation of the supporting plate - and 7 floors were damaged.

                You’ll be closed according to his statement ...


                in the hut the corpse of my grandmother. So the miracle-neighbor is already living with the investigators. Heading. I’ll tell you what happened.

                So still bite? Do you continue to consider this a reality?


                remotely. without entering the military contingent. From our airspace. On the ground, the corps of the republics are already finalizing
                1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 14: 09 New
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                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  You’ll be closed according to his statement ...

                  It's about popping in the face. Do not distort.
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  They burned their hut before the deformation of the supporting plate - and 7 floors were damaged.

                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  in the hut the corpse of my grandmother.

                  These are the nuances in which the devil is hiding. Are you sure that the case you are describing approaches the problem of water supply in Crimea?
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  Now we are dealing with just such a problem with the whole entrance.

                  Through the court or not?
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  dorm room on the outskirts of the universe, instead of a spacious apartment.

                  How so?
                  Why such slogans, if there is no way to implement them?
                  1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 14: 35 New
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                    Why such slogans, if there is no way to implement them?


                    have been carried out more than once. It is in this territory. She is problematic.

                    These are the nuances in which the devil is hiding.


                    the neighbor burned only his grandmother. And these have already killed over 15 lives.
                    And he and they are in the midst of drug addiction.

                    Through the court or not?

                    Yes, there will be a trial. While the police work

                    Parallel situations can be drawn easily.

                    How so?

                    They need to compensate for the damage by several million. To do this, get rid of housing. By law, they can’t go outside - so I think he’ll move to a hostel


                    1. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 15: 12 New
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                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      have been carried out more than once.

                      Share what exactly.
                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      Yes, there will be a trial.

                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      already over 15 lives have been killed.

                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      Parallel situations can be drawn easily.

                      Swipe. What kind of court is this? Who, where, when? (I'm not talking about drug addicts).
                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      how the Jews solved the issue of water, for example. Exactly the same methods.

                      I repeat: please do not confuse the warm with the soft. Do you seriously think that the Jewish version is possible under the current conditions? Seriously? In the 14th it turned out - no, but now - yes? I’m far from the idea that you are making "pluses", but then - why?
                      1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 15: 18 New
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                        I’m far from the idea that you are making "pluses", but then - why?


                        I do not understand what confuses you in solving this issue.

                        In the 14th it turned out - no, but now - yes?


                        I think here it was no longer a matter of costs - but the hope that this should not be done. Hope that people will get tired of enduring it. Well, I understand that there was a pipe. But with the pipe, the issue will be closed this year.

                        Now a new reality, clogged Minsk, the last 100 meters of the pipe, hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens in the Donbass (a new reality with passports)

                        The situation is changing, why nod for 14 years.

                        And no one will hit artillery in the cities of Ukraine. Everything will be made jewelry. Now in this regard, the possibilities of the sea.

                      2. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 15: 55 New
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                        I do not understand what confuses you in solving this issue.

                        It’s not even his delusions that confuse him, but the seriousness with which you talk about it.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        The situation is changing, why nod for 14 years.

                        Exactly. And changing is not in favor of your scenario. Face the truth.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        Everything will be made jewelry. Now in this regard, the possibilities of the sea.

                        For example?
                        No comments, in short ...
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                        For example?


                        decapitate the APU over night by destroying their headquarters. Destroy the means of communication. Is this a problem for the RF Armed Forces?

                        What is the problem for you in this scenario? Find out the locations of command personnel? Or find a means to cover these headquarters?



                        Don't like the delivery system? For example, even from the Caspian Sea, homeless people were shot for 1500 km. by another means.

                        Enough for the headquarters. Local centers of resistance will remain without means of communication.

                      4. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 16: 30 New
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                        What is the problem for you in this scenario?

                        I repeat that the problem is not that you are voicing this delusional nonsense, but that you yourself believe in it.
                        So, with garlic - how real is it that you came up with? In life. In our current reality.
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                        So, with garlic - how real is it that you came up with? In life. In our current reality.

                        did I come up with Iskander or Caliber?
                        You do not believe in these funds? Or in the will of the leadership to their application?

                        As for the leadership, I already wrote to you - the passports of citizens of the Russian Federation change reality and response. 14 years is not equal to 20 absolutely
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                        did I come up with Iskander or Caliber?

                        They were invented so that the "enemy ur'od would not climb into our garden", and not to trample the neighbors.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        Or in the will of the leadership to their application?

                        I believe in common sense leadership.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        14 years is not equal to 20 absolutely

                        Exactly. The moment is lost.
                        By the way, why didn’t you gather all the porch and crush the drug addict’s neighbor, but you got in trouble and only then ran to the police and the court? Not enough spirit? It’s not scary to shoot rockets, but then, suddenly, bench press?
                        Here is the chesslovo - I read your inadequate and see Julia brandishing an atomic pistol ...
                      7. St Petrov 13 February 2020 17: 53 New
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                        Here is the chesslovo - I read your inadequate and see Julia brandishing an atomic pistol ...


                        So far, the Ukrainian elite has waved at 15 killed or more - we must still multiply by the number of people in the family on average - and there will be a number of broken lives that had a period before and after. And if this is left as it is, there will be another plus of how many thousands - and not the military - but civilians. APU is not at all sorry.

                        By the way, why didn’t you gather all the porch and crush the drug addict’s neighbor, but you got in trouble and only then ran to the police and the court?


                        would start running and kill neighbors - would calm. If we are talking about parallels. Yes, and to inject with a needle - and to kill neighbors - this is different. If Ukraine was pricked with a needle and joined the EU without these 15 victims, then I would not have reacted like that. I would just stalk the ragul. And so it hurts me for a living.

                        Not enough spirit?

                        only grandmothers are afraid of drug addicts. With an athlete problems would be more to solve the issue in this vein. But the addict has no health. With the spirit of about the same. Not exotic - I saw such dirt.

                        It’s not scary to shoot rockets


                        let it be scary to the Rugul who give orders for artillery attacks in the Donbass.

                        I’m not afraid to get a summons. There will be no limit to dreams and out of place, but where to go and what to do upon receipt - I know

                      8. St Petrov 13 February 2020 18: 06 New
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                        the drug addict, by the way, like the Ukrainians, burned his relatives as a result. And not the neighbors.

                        It’s not scary to shoot rockets, but then, suddenly, bench press?


                        Are you worried about the Armed Forces or the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? Maybe we have different angles of vision precisely because of this?

                        YES and I write that even ordinary Private Mykol will not have to be extinguished. It is necessary to decapitate management. Managers of the ATO, I also do not mind the word in general - and in fact the rank and file also absolutely. Waffles without clan and tribe. And I think there’s no need to regret the missiles either. The soldier of our RF Armed Forces is necessary. No ground operation from the RF Armed Forces is needed.

                      9. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 18: 28 New
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                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        would start running and kill neighbors - would calm.

                        Sofa nonsense. The "would" particle spoils everything.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        only grandmothers are afraid of drug addicts

                        However, the spirit was not enough ...
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        let it be scary to the Rugul who give orders for artillery attacks in the Donbass.

                        "Do not threaten the South Central, drinking juice in your area." ©
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        the drug addict, by the way, like the Ukrainians, burned his relatives as a result. And not the neighbors.

                        There, I remember, something else about the cracked ceiling was ...
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        Are you worried about the Armed Forces or the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?

                        Congratulations! One step remained in accusing me of belonging to the enemies of the motherland.
                        So it is recalled: “Give them! And if they are to us? And what is it for us?”
                        By the way, you did not answer:
                        Quote: Vasyan1971
                        So, with garlic - how real is it that you came up with? In life. In our current reality.
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                        So, with garlic - how real is it that you came up with? In life. In our current reality.


                        Crimea is real and it is real. APU is not an army - a house of cards.
                        In terms of butting with the LDNR corps - this is their maximum - taking into account the limitations of LDNR actions due to Minsk and the ensuing ones.
                        A missile strike at the command and control posts will scatter everything and open up opportunities for the corps.

                        In the Crimea, the GRU disconnected, and then the Iskander from the Krasnodar Territory turned it off.

                        Or is this a problem?
                      11. Vasyan1971 13 February 2020 19: 15 New
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                        A missile strike at the command and control posts will scatter everything and open up opportunities for the corps.

                        Blah blah blah.
                        This is not an answer. This is another nonsense.
                        Quote: c-Petrov
                        Or is this a problem?

                        Theoretically, no. Almost yes.
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      Share what exactly.


      de occupation of these lands. Poles, Germans, raguli - the invaders are different. And the land is ours.
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      Quote: c-Petrov
      de occupation of these lands. Poles, Germans, raguli - the invaders are different. And the land is ours.

      Share: how exactly?
  • Piramidon 13 February 2020 13: 19 New
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    how the Jews solved the issue of water, for example. Exactly the same methods

    And the option with laying the pipeline from the mainland does not roll?
    1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 15: 09 New
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      It’s rolling, only the Don and Volga have become shallow, even Volgograd does not have enough water ... But if water were sent to the Volga and Don instead of the Ukrainian Dnieper, the problem would be solved!
    2. St Petrov 13 February 2020 15: 32 New
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      And the option with laying the pipeline from the mainland does not roll?


      I do not know request if everything was simple, they would have thrown it in front of the bridge

      There, they had almost completed the Taurida, provided with electricity, but with water, apparently, a problem. And I think it’s not just about money

  • denplot 13 February 2020 12: 04 New
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    Well, here's the deal. Kiev channel still will not open. Agree with them will not work. It remains only to wait for the collapse of Ukraine and the transfer of part of its territory to the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation. Or wait for sane authorities to appear there and manage to build normal relations. Which is unlikely.
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      It remains only to wait

      Quote: denplot
      Or wait for sane authorities to appear there

      Exactly. Grit your teeth and clench your fists. So far, only so.
      The key word is bye.
      1. Kronos 13 February 2020 17: 21 New
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        There is nothing more permanent than temporary
    2. Horon 13 February 2020 12: 23 New
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      Not to wait, but to contribute to this as "civilized" countries do it. But alas ... there is complete collapse and anarchy in political circles. request
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        But alas ... there is complete collapse and anarchy in political circles.

        I say: wait.
    3. Kronos 13 February 2020 17: 20 New
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      That is, for decades
  • tihonmarine 13 February 2020 12: 38 New
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    It is necessary to make the North Crimean Canal the property of the Russian Federation.

    Said A, say B.
  • Gene84 13 February 2020 11: 47 New
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    Politicians in Kiev are completely crazy. they have no brains. "de-occupation and reintegration" - is it that Kiev politicians themselves believe in this nonsense?
    1. tihonmarine 13 February 2020 12: 40 New
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      Politicians in Kiev are completely crazy. they have no brains. "de-occupation and reintegration" - is it that Kiev politicians themselves believe in this nonsense?

      They believe, because from childhood they well remembered The Tale of the Golden Fish.
  • New Year day 13 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    Expected. It’s just that they’re doing worse
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      It’s just that they’re doing worse


      they have been doing this to themselves since the 90th year. the guys are already used to it. maybe it’s different and the thought is not working

      1. Sergey Olegovich 13 February 2020 12: 17 New
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        maybe it’s already a little thought and does not work

        They have no thoughts, completely absent. They rushed all their thought on the Maidan.
  • CAT BAIYUN 13 February 2020 11: 52 New
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    Ukraine will not supply water to the Crimean peninsula under any conditions

    And what else could you expect from these Sviderasts in power? They have a different motivation - destructive. They work in the sphere of plundering their country in order to get out of it when they get enough of it.
  • Aliken 13 February 2020 11: 54 New
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    Relying on the sanity and viciousness of Ukraine is not worth it, the Crimean bridge was built, now the water utility is next in line. And do not forget to give Ukraine gas discounts.
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      now the water utility is in line

      And wrap the entire Dnieper into the canal! laughing
  • Strashila 13 February 2020 11: 56 New
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    From a series of evil to my mother I will frostbite my ears; don’t hay the whole Kherson region will lose fertile land from salinization, but Crimea will not receive water.
  • knn54 13 February 2020 11: 57 New
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    The Mejlis said that Crimea is their land, and it is for them to decide whether to supply water there or not.
    1. sergo1914 13 February 2020 12: 15 New
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      Quote: knn54
      The Mejlis said that Crimea is their land, and it is for them to decide whether to supply water there or not.


      Now the Scythians will catch up ... It's not evening yet.
    2. New Year day 13 February 2020 12: 24 New
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      Quote: knn54
      The Mejlis said that Crimea is their land, and they decide


      Kiev Majlis is prohibited, but its reincarnation in Crimea lives and implements its principles. The last example: at the request of the Tatars introduced into the administration of the Crimea, material about the atrocities of the Crimean Tatars in Crimea during the Second World War was removed from textbooks. It was the Crimean Tatar, as well as the Bandera executioners, who were especially cruel. It is enough to recall the concentration camp of Simferopol and the live burning of a group of paratroopers near Koktebel.
      In general, the partisan movement in the Crimea was destroyed only “thanks to” the local Tatars, the guides
  • Andrea 13 February 2020 11: 57 New
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    And where did so many baobabs grow from?
    Did Crimea ask them for water? So zealously refuse. fool
  • rudolff 13 February 2020 12: 02 New
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    Why was it not to link the water supply of Crimea with the signing of a gas contract? Merkel insisted on the contract, so let them solve the issue with water too.
    Or with the return of Ukrainian boats with teams. You care about your citizens, and we about yours.
    But in fact, the question of the resumption of water supply to the Crimea was not raised by us anywhere and not once.
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  • Chingachguk 13 February 2020 12: 06 New
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    Party ----- "European Solidarity" What are people, sucks you without water? We Europeans will not give you water! That is all you need to know about help from abroad ..., ..
  • rotmistr60 13 February 2020 12: 13 New
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    I hope this ghoul among other ghouls awaits a fair trial if it is not tidied up earlier. And about the Ukrainian "proposals" they were answered unequivocally and only correctly - "people do not change people for water."
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    and ex-president of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk suggested that the water in the Crimea "just sell"


    Ha ha ha Kravchuk is handsome. And for transit still to put down price tags. Or will they supply bottled? A joint venture is planned.
  • Lamata 13 February 2020 12: 20 New
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    Democrats decided to die by thirst
  • Rey_ka 13 February 2020 12: 27 New
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    Leonid Kravchuk suggested that the water in the Crimea "just sell."
    upon presentation of Ukrainian passports
  • Mountain shooter 13 February 2020 12: 32 New
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    It remains to wait for the de-occupation of Kiev. In the meantime, let the Kherson region swamp. This is useful for the Union of Artists of Ukraine ...
  • Fibrizio 13 February 2020 12: 33 New
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    Actually - we got sanctions anyway

    We received very formal sanctions. The real ones can be seen in North Korea. Well, Iran has an intermediate option.
    The sanctions against us are more indicative and give the internal electorate of the countries that introduced them.
  • Ros 56 13 February 2020 12: 37 New
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    Looking at this moronic face, how could you expect something else? This two-legged is still responsible for Odessa.
  • Rey_ka 13 February 2020 12: 38 New
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    The North Crimean Canal was built in 1971, and before that, how did it live?
    1. Fibrizio 13 February 2020 12: 48 New
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      Fields were not cultivated (few were cultivated), there were no combines. So they lived.
  • Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 13 February 2020 12: 48 New
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    If I’m not mistaken, the great Ukrainian Dnieper River has its origins in Russia ... So it may be to treat Ukrainians according to their own recipe: start blocking the origins of the Dnieper ??? am I believe that soon after the start of work, Ukrainians will resume water supply to the Crimea ... good
    1. Lamata 13 February 2020 13: 05 New
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      Yes, cheat is probably technically difficult. Do not turn off the tap in the apartment.
  • wow
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    BP Ukraine is the chamber of "No. 6" in Chekhov.
  • Sapsan136 13 February 2020 13: 03 New
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    Well, it means that Ukraine also needs to shut off all the water from the Russian Federation, sending it to the Volga and the Don, and send all the gaster to their homes, enough to go around the Russian Federation, let Zelensky feed them!
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      Quote: Sapsan136
      Well, it means that Ukraine also needs to shut off all the water from the Russian Federation, sending it to the Volga and the Don, and send all the gaster to their homes, enough to go around the Russian Federation, let Zelensky feed them!

      the first is better not to do - there are a lot of bad post effects, but the second had to be done for a long time!
      1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 15: 01 New
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        All the effects would be in Ukraine, and since it is at war with the Russian Federation, then all the problems of Ukraine, this is not the sadness of the Russian Federation!
        1. bycharashkO 13 February 2020 17: 37 New
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          Quote: Sapsan136
          All the effects would be in Ukraine, and since it is at war with the Russian Federation, then all the problems of Ukraine, this is not the sadness of the Russian Federation!

          the effects would be with us, and the Belarusians have the same. Do we need it ?. Pressure 404 must be done differently - Gaster (except Donetsk and Lugansk) should send everyone, completely shut off “oxygen” (fuel, lubricants, electricity and all other goods) and not buy anything there. And it’s kind of like Russia and the “aggressor country”, and the turnover is growing ... To establish television and radio broadcasting on the territory of 404.
          1. Sapsan136 13 February 2020 21: 39 New
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            We would not have any negative, only positive, since the direction of the water to the Don and Volga, instead of the Ukrainian Dnieper, solves the problem of lack of water in the same Volgograd ... Whether Minsk will block the flow of its rivers or not, which will be solved more and more shows his true face and unwillingness to build a union state with the Russian Federation ...
  • 123456789 13 February 2020 13: 08 New
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    The Kremlin emphasized that Crimea cannot be the object of any exchange.

    But there’s no help ...
    And suddenly a voice comes from heaven: “Well, you would at least buy a lottery ticket!”

    Or the Dnieper blocked laughing Then it would be possible to bargain. At the same time, and Father on Kukan hi Who else is behind the effectiveness of simple solutions? I'm not talking about affiliated contractors.
  • 23424636 13 February 2020 13: 22 New
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  • Andrey.AN 13 February 2020 13: 52 New
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    There is an option, of course it costs money, but it can be beneficial. Intercept rain clouds over Crimea by aviation reclamation.
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      You have to go to the State Duma, develop budgets. Such a talent for cutting disappears. good
      1. Andrey.AN 13 February 2020 14: 26 New
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        you know, the bulk of the water evaporates in the South, Ukrainians, if you use interception for a long time, will be running with a hose waiting for the rain, blocking the canal in Crimea.
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          It reminds me of the ideas of the times of the USSR about nuclear explosions turning Siberian rivers back.
          1. Andrey.AN 13 February 2020 14: 47 New
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            there’s nothing of Napoleon’s in it, just pour fertilizers not into the fields, but into the clouds.
        2. Elephant 13 February 2020 14: 43 New
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          It would not hurt to deepen and clean the shallowed Crimean reservoirs. Even at school they taught - the smaller the mirror of the water surface, the less evaporation. But this is not known to local officials, and those priests simply arrange prayers for rain ...: http://www.c-inform.info/news/id/83128
    2. Crimean partisan 1974 13 February 2020 20: 23 New
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      Intercepting rain clouds over Crimea ... an idiotic option .... why do we need poison clouds ???? last year, almost nothing was sheltered from the rain, yielded low results, or even nothing at all, the greenhouses won. so if the state somehow significantly reduces the prices of chemical film and other consumables for greenhouses, then the crops will not keep you waiting, and even last year the showers fell just for grain harvesting, there was a lot of darkness
  • Azazelo 13 February 2020 14: 17 New
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    And then something about the Holodomor tryndyat .....
  • bycharashkO 13 February 2020 14: 37 New
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    Quote: 4ekist
    This clown from the picture should sit near the bucket in Lefortovo and crow.

    Please specify - from which picture? At first I thought of a sinful thing about a man with a grenade launcher :-). Then he dopped what was meant by the photo in the article.
  • Elephant 13 February 2020 14: 37 New
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    Why not hear our valiant lawyers? Ukraine clearly violates the UNECE Convention on Transboundary Waters!
    1. Housing 13 February 2020 17: 52 New
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      Quote: Elephant
      Why not hear our valiant lawyers? Ukraine clearly violates the UNECE Convention on Transboundary Waters!

      "Valiant world lawyers" are all from one gang .. They are all in a crowd again preparing another lawsuit for Gazprom!
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        Precisely noticed!
  • Alexander Seklitsky 13 February 2020 18: 28 New
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    Exactly the same. It’s possible to shut off any trade with Tsegabony, especially - in terms of fuel and lubricants, and after the next shelling, tell Donetsk - men. For only a complete military and political defeat of the 404th can solve all pressing problems.
    The Donetsk people themselves will not be able to cope. We must officially help. We will find ourselves in the position of Erdogan with his support of the idlib.
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    About water ..... I honestly do not understand why it is impossible to lay the pipe "a la Nord Stream2" along the bottom? Having fed water in our territory? The channel, the kingdom of heaven to him, is comparable in volume of pumping with a pair of pipes. What, again, the States do not allow?