The first French nuclear "Barracuda" began testing

The French lead multipurpose nuclear submarine Suffren of the new Barracuda project began immersion tests. The first static dive took place at the Naval Group shipyard in Cherbourg (Normandy). It is reported by Naval News.

The static diving procedure allows you to check the reliability of the sealing of the submarine, as well as evaluate its stability in the underwater position. After checking for leaks, the submarine will go to sea tests until the end of the first quarter, which will last several weeks. At the first stage, off the coast of Cherbourg, the submarine will continue to develop static dives of the submarine without the use of a mover. Then, "Suffren" will make the transition in the vicinity of Brest, where it will perform deep sea dives.

At the end of summer and early autumn, tests of weapons systems off the coast of Toulon are planned.

The submarine, dubbed Suffren - in honor of the French admiral Suffren de Saint-Tropez - was built over 10 years. It was laid in December 2007, launched on July 12, 2019, the transfer to the customer is planned at the end of this year.

The project "Barracuda" is one of the largest defense projects in France, even the fact that French President Emmanuel Macron and the Minister of Defense Florence Parley attended the ceremony of its "launching" show this.

The project to build six nuclear submarines of the new generation was launched in 1998 year and was initially estimated at 7,9 billion euros. But the costs eventually exceeded nine billion. Due to technical difficulties, the project was also delayed for three years.

Submarines of this series are to replace in the French Navy obsolete Rubis-type submarines built between 1976 and 1993 a year.

The submarine's displacement is about 5300 T, the length is 99 m, the service life of a nuclear reactor reaches 10 years. Submarines will be armed with Scalp Naval and Exocet cruise missiles, as well as heavy Black Shark torpedoes.

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[Thrifty]

Truly, for the price it is not a barracuda fish, it is a pure white shark! 9 billion is the French Zumwalt for the submarine fleet!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Thrifty

Truly, for the price it is not a barracuda fish, it is a pure white shark! 9 billion is the French Zumwalt for the submarine fleet!

Sir, you are truly "thrifty"!
But 9 lard not for one, but for 6 units - total: 1,5 for each. Now they are worth it. What is there to be surprised, all the more so, the Eureka is not ours - the French!
AHA.

[TermNachTer]

Let's see how quickly they will "pull" when mass construction begins, if it starts. It is possible that the price tag will go down a lot for 9 lard, so the series will have to be cut. It's too early to say, but the fact that it took a long time to build is a fact.

[Kurare]

Displacement of the submarine - about 5300 tons, length - 99 m

If not mistaken, the smallest (combat) nuclear submarine in the world. From that and the complexity of the project.
In general, the French love to "pull an owl on a globe", otherwise they will succeed as with Charles de Gaulle. He just did not get out of the repair.

... the service life of a nuclear reactor reaches 10 years.

And here, it seems like a typo. Something very little 10 years!

[knn54]

The prototype (Ruby) is even smaller. You need to understand the replacement of 6 by 6. Only if the budget-emigrants allow you to somehow feed.

[Kurare]

Quote: knn54

Only whether the budget allows immigrants to somehow feed.

We must pay tribute to the French, they, almost the only ones in continental Europe, who keep their gunpowder dry. So let's see.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: knn54

The prototype (Ruby) is even smaller. You need to understand the replacement of 6 by 6. Only if the budget-emigrants allow you to somehow feed.

Well, honestly, we found something to worry about. About the French budget and their migrants. Their migrants live better than many of our citizens.

[TermNachTer]

Yes. With such prices, it would not have been necessary to cut the series.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Kurare

Something very little 10 years!

this is the period until the reactor core is rebooted (fuel change). On Soviet-built boats, the reload time of the reactors was the same 8-10 years. Americans have more - from 20 to 30 years between periods of change of the active zone. It also depends on the intensity of operation of the reactor.

[Ros 56]

I wonder where the French are yanking on their boats. Basically, talk about ours and the striped, and about these and the British somehow silence.

[Altai72]

Protect the native shore))

[Lord of the Sith]

Something strange among the French, all military equipment is obtained, for which they won’t take it, it costs like gold by weight.

[Altai72]

Precisely, both Leclerci and Rafali seem to be sawing from gold. Prices do not really match the competition.

[TermNachTer]

So the boats also stand - be healthy, with a very relative quality.

[Omskgasmyas]

They cram more super-duper lotions, and the series is small. So it turns out their technology is more expensive than gold.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Something strange among the French, all military equipment turns out ...

"It's a penchant for grace," as one Western fan said. Interestingly, the Barracuda is 2 times more Rubies in displacement, but 2,5 times less than our Ash ... Half the size of Virgins. A sort of "little inch" from the kingdom of Neptune. But nevertheless, it carries 20 units of weapons, including Scalpa, heavy TO (coupled BIUS with their heavy t-doy F-21 Artemis, now you can refuse English products!). We looked at the Germans and stuck a MICA-IR underwater missile, developed on the basis of RVV SD with a 2-mode IR seeker. The start is underwater, in a capsule, but the radius is up to 20 km and the height is up to 8, it seems ... So, the Germans have only to wipe themselves off with their MANPADS. We also worked on underwater controllability at large moves. The X-shaped stern plumage with rudders prevents the stern from sagging during circulation. They also borrowed this from the Norgen. We worked on the noise ... But it was not impressed - 45-50 dB is more than that of the 885M on the GEDs ... Yes, they also borrowed from the Yankees the idea of ​​a capsule (Sea Wolfe) for combat swimmers. But only 12 people fit. The scope is not the same ... Amy 36 shoved!
Interestingly, out of 60 crew members, only 4 quartermasters (contractors) are the remaining officers and non-commissioned officers (midshipmen), which implies a high professional level of training for submarine crews.

Quote: Omskgazmyas

Cram more super-duper lotions ...

They have one interesting detail - tech. decision. They combined the nuclear power plants and the PUF into one energy block ... And 10 years, this is the term for the reloading of fuel elements.
Here is a brief summary of what we managed to find on the "baby with shark teeth".

[Hunter 2]

The boat is interesting in that it is “small” ... very expensive and with incomprehensible performance characteristics.
The French - may have opened a new niche ... or maybe screwed up.
I like the idea of ​​Small submarines with nuclear reactors - I like it. But I am not a submariner at all.

[Sky strike fighter]

The service life of a nuclear reactor reaches 10 years.

If this is so, then screwed up. Or can you put a new reactor later? Maybe it's some kind of French know-how?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Hunter 2

The French - may have opened a new niche ... or maybe screwed up.
I like the idea of ​​Small submarines with nuclear reactors - I like it.

I also expressed the opinion that a small boat with a nuclear reactor should be better than the same boat with VNEU. In every way. Yes, even if with a full electric motor, and a supply of batteries - a kind of hybrid. When we connect all sources - the speed is up to 40 knots! Purely at the reactor - up to 30, on batteries, quietly - 20 ... Ours just possess the necessary technologies. And the smaller the boat - the more secretive it is ... Crews of 20 people. All the same, the 21st century. Automation...

[Sky strike fighter]

Promising French naval cruise missile to destroy ground targets NCM (Naval Cruise Missile, French abbreviation MdCN). Is there accurate data on its performance characteristics?

KR NCM is based on the design of the Scalp EG rocket and was previously designated as Scalp Naval, but is made in a narrower fuselage. The NCM missile is created in two versions - a vertical launch, for launching from the Sylver A70 runway, and a boat launch, for launching from 533-mm submarine torpedo tubes. Estimated firing range exceeds 1000 km.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1019043.html

[Old26]

Quote: Kurare

And here, it seems like a typo. Something very little 10 years!

Reboot possible after 10 years

[Kurare]

Quote: Old26

Reboot possible after 10 years

Yes, and this is not enough! But, the boat is very small, which means that the dimensions of the reactors are on the verge of possible. So, it may well be that you are right.

[SAG]

Quote: Kurare

But, the boat is very small, which means that the dimensions of the reactors are on the verge of possible. So, it may well be that you are right.

That is, Poseidon did not impress you with its size?

[Kurare]

First - Poseidon unmanned aerial vehicle. You can compare it with the inhabited submarine, but immodestly.
And secondly - Poseidon "one-time", ie. like a cruise missile under water. After all, they also do not put a drive on it with a resource of several hundred hours, it makes no sense. It's the same with Poseidon's mover.

[SAG]

Quote: Kurare

First - Poseidon unmanned aerial vehicle. You can compare it with the inhabited submarine, but immodestly.
And secondly - Poseidon "one-time", ie. like a cruise missile under water. After all, they also do not put a drive on it with a resource of several hundred hours, it makes no sense. It's the same with Poseidon's mover.

Let's start again, because you apparently did not understand the essence of the comment. You wrote that the dimensions of the reactor are on the verge of possible. I tried to hint that this is not even close. And then the purpose and technical characteristics for some reason began to compare ...

[Kurare]

Quote: SAG

You wrote that the dimensions of the reactor are on the verge of possible. I tried to hint that this is not even close.

That's just the point that on the verge of possible for combat submarine... It can be compared with "Losharik", it is also smaller than "Barracuda". But "Losharik" does not travel at a speed of 25 knots, and "Poseidon" does not need either the protection of the crew or the durability of the nuclear power plant. Therefore, he hinted that the comparison is incorrect.

[SAG]

That's just the point that on the verge of possible for combat submarine... It can be compared with "Losharik", it is also smaller than "Barracuda". But "Losharik" does not travel at a speed of 25 knots, and "Poseidon" does not need either the protection of the crew or the durability of the nuclear power plant. Therefore, he hinted that the comparison is incorrect.

The comparison is correct, because combat apl does not have to be inhabited (technologies are developing). What do you mean by crew protection and what is your data on the Poseidon YaU resource?

[Kurare]

Quote: SAG

The comparison is correct, because combat apl does not have to be inhabited (technologies are developing).

That's when Barracuda becomes uninhabited, then we will compare.

Quote: SAG

... do you have data on the Poseidon YaU resource?

Such data are not available in open sources, but for the dissemination of these you can lose your head)) My assumptions are based on analogies, the same cruise missiles.

[SAG]

That is, the bottom line: Two nuclear submarines on underwater vehicles (about the life of which we reliably do not know anything), but the size of the Russian installation ON ORDER less french (Of course, the French have more power, but the specific power is probably no more than yes)

[Kurare]

Power is one thing. But the crew protection. They, just right on Poseidon, can be neglected. Further, it is not required to restart the reactor at Poseidon, it probably has enough fuel for one trip. In Barracuda, of course, there are more of it. Further, systems providing secrecy on submarines are more developed, which means that they take up a lot of space. You can still list a lot.

As for the specific power, I think that Poseidon will give a considerable head start. Well, so they have different tasks.

[Altai72]

For the whole fleet. And the French, too, see the manners ..

[cniza]

Their admirals also want to eat ...

[cniza]

The project to build six nuclear submarines of the new generation was launched in 1998 year and was initially estimated at 7,9 billion euros. But the costs eventually exceeded nine billion. Due to technical difficulties, the project was also delayed for three years.

Yes, China can give everyone a head start, I don’t know about boats on surface for sure ...

[Graz]

Well, it’s still not known what quality the Chinese ships are riveting at such a pace

[cniza]

I agree, time will tell ...

[bars1]

They built it for 12 years ... But it’s interesting, the French all-embracers (if there are any) cried that in France they forgot how to quickly build submarines?

[Old26]

Quote: SAG

That is, Poseidon did not impress you with its size?

And not tired of always and everywhere trump "Poseidon"? We are talking about the nuclear submarine, its dimensions and the fact that the operating time of the reactor is 10 years. What side is "Poseidon" here at all ???

Quote: TermNachTER

Let's see how quickly they will "pull" when mass construction begins, if it starts. It is possible that the price tag will go down a lot for 9 lard, so the series will have to be cut. It's too early to say, but the fact that it took a long time to build is a fact.

We will see. But they usually fulfill their plans. Whether the price tag will go much beyond 9 lard or not is still unknown. For the French, if the price tag goes away, then not much .. I agree about the long construction. But our headquarters were also built oh how long. That the boats of the project "Ash", that "Borey"

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Is there accurate data on its performance characteristics?

Previously, the shipborne cruise missile for the destruction of ground targets NCM (MdCN) was called Scalp Naval.
Available in two versions. Boat and ship. The boat is fired through a 533 mm caliber TA, the ship is fired from the Sylver A-70 vertical launcher.
range in the boat version - 1000 km, in the ship - 1400 km. Length - 5,5 m, diameter 500 mm. Starting - 1400 kg. carries 300kg warhead

[lvov_aleksey]

we are not the brakes, but we think ours are already there, noise, etc. (TTX) will appreciate the future