Creating a swarm. The next level of autonomous warfare

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Kratos demo XQ-58A Valkyrie completed its first flight on March 5, 2019 over the Yum training ground

The armed forces are constantly striving to gain superiority over opponents, in connection with which considerable efforts are directed at the massive deployment of "swarm" autonomous air-based solutions. Consider the latest Western programs to develop unmanned aids capable of performing various tasks, including reconnaissance and information gathering and high-precision strikes.

Currently, there is a steady development of the concept of carrying out sweeping operations from the air, land and sea with the use of many "uninhabited" systems, since in order to defeat opponents, the armed forces of many countries pay great attention to the deployment of advanced autonomous technologies. However, the development of such technologies at the moment is mainly focused on air swarms and it is unlikely that in the near future they will have a significant impact on the outcome of military operations.



Nevertheless, the use of swarms of air, ground, surface and underwater autonomous platforms forces the military to solve extremely complex problems of ensuring the functioning and financing of this technology, despite its relatively recent appearance.

For example, according to Secretary of Defense Gavin Williamson, speaking at the Royal Institute for Defense Research a year ago, the British Department of Defense Transformation Fund “has been tasked with developing swarm squadrons of networked dronescapable of confusing and stunning enemy air defenses. We hope the technology will be ready for deployment by the end of this year.”

High ranks from the US MTR Command agree in principle with this position. “The combination of unmanned systems working on a common task remains an integral part of the Command roadmap for its promising concept,“ Special Applications for Special Environments, ”said the program director for aircraft-type aircraft.

His comment is quite consistent with the statements of the Command representatives, which speak of how swarm technologies could support the “tactical information awareness” of special units in a combat situation. The Command Concept under the designation NGIA (Next Generation Information Awareness) provides for the integration of “remote biometric and technical sensors, an advanced data architecture and analytical materials to complement traditional means of collecting information on enemy territory.”

The Command representative explained the various principles of combat use, including how swarms drones vertical takeoff and landing could support the NGIA concept. Among other principles under consideration for the combat use of the new technology is the deployment of UAVs from a forward position to conduct visual, sound and electromagnetic reconnaissance, and thereby not endanger special forces, on whose training large sums of money were spent.

He also spoke about the Command’s desire to create a consortium of “best industrial partners” capable of developing a solution for swarming UAVs and putting it into practice over the next six years.


Aerovironment u Kratos Signs Agreement for Supply of Switchblade UAVs for Various Remote Controlled Carriers, including Kratos MQM-178 Firejet

Continuous activity


Any operational use of swarm solutions can begin before the NGIA concept is implemented. US government is already implementing various programs aimed at using closely related technologies.

Programs are already being implemented, such as OFFSET (Offensive Swarm-Enabled Tactics - offensive tactics with swarm support) of the Office of Advanced Defense Research DARPA, TOBS (Tactical Offboard Sensing - tactical external surveillance) of the US Air Force and LOCUST (Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology - low-cost technology swarm UAV) US Navy.

The TOBS concept is based on the AC-130J Ghostrider fire support aircraft, capable of launching several Area-I ALTIUS (Air-Launched, Tube-Integrated Unmanned System) production unmanned aerial vehicles manufactured by Area-I in order to provide weapon systems of the carrier aircraft with information about potential targets.

The U.S. Air Force was unable to provide details on the TOBS program, but industry sources said that ALTIUS drones are equipped with thermal imaging and optoelectronic cameras and a data transmission channel, which provides guidance for the Ghostrider aircraft weapons system. The TOBS concept allows the Ghostrider to fire at targets in the most difficult weather conditions.

The project of the US Air Force under the name LOCUST focuses on the joint work of up to 30 Coyote type aircraft drones in support of the tasks of collecting information, monitoring, target designation and reconnaissance. As an alternative platform for the LOCUST program, the MIT Perdix UAV is also considered.

The DARPA Office held its latest demonstration as part of the OFFSET project in June 2019. The OFFSET concept is expected to enable collaboration of up to 250 UAVs and the integration of automatic ground based vehicles (AHA) into a single network.

The June Fort Benning demonstration, the second of six planned, illustrates the concept that a network of drones and ground-based vehicles performs reconnaissance missions in settlements with high vertical structures, narrow streets and small viewing angles. According to DARPA, Lockheed Martin and Charles River Analytics, as part of the OFFSET program, were tasked with "creating the architecture of a swarm system in the form of a realistic gaming application built into physical autonomous platforms."

This activity also aims to define “adaptive, complex, collective behavior with the aim of improving information exchange, decision making and interaction with the environment so that UAVs can seamlessly interact, influence each other and draw correct logical conclusions”.

Meanwhile, according to Dynetics, the general contractor for the Gremlins project, at the end of 2019, the third development phase was completed. The aim of the project is to launch the S-130 from a transport aircraft and return the “flocks” of Gremlin aircraft to it. The Gremlins program, a concept developed by the DARPA Office, provides for the deployment of reusable drones capable of performing dispersed air operations in difficult combat situations.

A Dynetics statement said that “Gremlin drones are launched from existing aircraft outside the range of enemy air defense systems. After completing the task, the S-130 aircraft takes the Gremlin drones back on board and transports them to the base, where they quickly recover and are sent back to flight. ”

The program involves Sierra Nevada Corporation, Airborne Systems, Applied Systems Engineering, Kutta Technologies, Moog, Systima Technologies, Williams International and Kratos Unmanned Aerial Systems.

Technological solutions


According to Kratos CEO Steve Fendley, hundreds, if not thousands of drones will be able to take part in swarm operations in the future.

Fendley told how UAV swarms in the future will be able to interact with the goal of fulfilling an unlimited number of strike and defensive tasks through independent decision-making at the "mass level".

“Reliability increases exponentially if you have a large number of devices performing a particular task,” Fendley explained, noting that the loss of one or more UAVs in a large swarm of systems will not negatively affect the mission.

“The swarm and its decision-making capabilities are not tied to any particular aircraft, so you may lose one or more drones and still not lose the ability to complete the task. This is especially important when acting against almost equal rivals, where quantity matters. ”


Fendley also drew attention to the fact that the swarms of UAVs can be networked via satellite communications, this allows aircraft, if necessary, to exchange data outside of direct line of sight.

“In the air, these devices for various purposes exchange with each other all the available information, that is, each of them owns a larger amount of information than they could have if flying independently. Consequently, the capabilities of each individual element in the swarm are greatly enhanced. ”


But at the same time, the potential of swarm UAVs has not yet been fully realized, despite the presence of “hundreds” of technological programs in the United States and other countries.

The use of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning in the processes of making decisions by drones and ensuring the distribution and modification of cognitive decision-making cycles are areas that still need to be carefully studied. According to Fendley, “research in these areas is incredibly popular right now,” but AI software must still be fully integrated and optimized in most swarm displays. UAV swarm displays today are more likely based on logic than on AI. ”


WB Electronics is exploring the potential use of its drones and barrage of ammunition, including launched from the pipe Warmate

Last May, as part of its swarm development roadmap, Kratos announced a strategic partnership with Aerovironment-based drone manufacturer. This cooperation is aimed at developing the concept "Integrated capabilities of highly effective tactical UAVs and tactical missiles." She plans to deploy the Aerovironment Switchblade tactical missile launcher system through high-speed and larger unmanned carrier vehicles, including the Kratos MQM-178 Firejet. 3 meter Firejet media originally created as a comprehensive reset training tool weapons, is a small copy of the target drone BQM-167A Subscale Aerial Target, standing on the supply of the US Air Force.

Alternative carriers also include other Kratos drone drone: UTAP-22 Mako and XQ-58A Valkyrie.

Developed in 2015, the Mako 6,13-meter jet carrier is capable of delivering UAV swarms to the site and coordinating their actions, correcting their tasks and sending information to the ground control station. On January 23, 2020, the fourth successful flight of the XQ-58A unmanned aerial vehicle was conducted at the Yuma training ground. The tests were carried out as part of the program of the US Air Force Research Laboratory for an inexpensive low cost Attritable Strike Demonstrator (LCASD).

During the tests, the multi-tasking and runway-independent XQ-58A aircraft completed all its tasks, including flying at high altitude and collecting data in real conditions. Fendley said that the first carrier flights with Switchblade UAVs should be carried out in early 2020.

Such a bundle can significantly expand the operational efficiency of the Switchblade jet apparatus, which has a maximum range of 20 km when operating in single mode. “In combination with the carrier, the range of the Switchblade will increase by another 270 km if you want to return the device, and 540 km when completing the task one way,” Fendley said, noting that each Firejet can carry up to four Switchblades. “Traditional swarms are easier to implement using small systems, and we intend with Firejet to start moving towards swarm concepts.”

Swarm opportunities


Kratos also participates in the DARPA Management Gremlins program, which can be the foundation of dozens of swarm-type concepts, including "deploying from the air and returning a large number of UAVs."

At the end of 2019, Kratos and the DARPA Office carried out their first flight from the C-130 aircraft, which was not yet disclosed, as an intermediate solution between the Firejet and 167A. This carrier, which does not have a designation, is characterized by folding wings, which allows it to be transported in the cargo compartment of the S-130 aircraft.

After completing the task, carriers return back to the cargo compartment using a technology reminiscent of air refueling. This allows the C-130 aircraft to “dock” with the carrier to return it to the compartment and move it to the rack for storage for reuse.

Kratos is also developing Wolf Cancer technology for UAV swarm operations. As part of the Wolf Pak concept, communication technology is being studied that will allow multiple air systems to be integrated into a high-frequency network and thereby improve the quality of data exchange.

Wolf Pak technology also allows the swarm to adapt and reconfigure in decentralized mode, providing the swarm of drones with the ability to fly at a predetermined distance from each other. This software is developed at the request of an undisclosed customer from the US Army. No further details were provided, although industry experts suggest that it can be used to support a number of operational requirements, from intelligence to target designation.

Wolf Pak's software, currently rated by the customer, operates on ultra-wideband communication channels that reduce the electromagnetic signature of drones when using a single control station.

Kratos said the Wolf Pak solution appoints a “leader” who remotely or autonomously controls the rest of the swarm. The system is also redundant; swarm operation is not affected by shutdown or damage to an individual drone. Each UAV works in a swarm on its own integrated software, which avoids conflicts with drones and other obstacles.

According to Kratos, to date, the software Wolf Pak is able to control up to 10 UAVs in one swarm. Aircraft can also disconnect themselves from the network for individual operations, after which they can again connect to the swarm. Fendley said:

“Wolf Pak allows you to quickly integrate UAV teams for collaboration, although it does not include AI or decision making. We do not use Wolf Pak today, however, a prototype system was created in order to understand how the concept can work. The program does not include an encrypted communication channel, but today a secure system is needed in order to conduct surveillance in a combat situation. "

Kratos uses a yet-unnamed autonomous system to support its ongoing demo programs and provide a common interface with swarm UAVs that can be adapted to integrate specific types of aircraft. It includes a data channel for remote management and control; additional communication channel between devices flying in close proximity; Autopilot software to provide “basic” flight performance; as well as a target computer for higher-level decision making. The technology also includes AI software developed by Kratos and other unnamed civil society partners.

“Our intention is to have open interfaces and different approaches that adapt to any hardware and software part. Kratos wants to be consistent with all of them and incorporate other solutions into our drones. Autonomy can be embedded in basic systems with interfaces that allow us to interact and coordinate with autonomous and subsystems with AI from other developers, ”

- noted Fendley.

Meanwhile, the European manufacturer of MBDA missiles at the air show in Paris in the summer of 2019 presented several concepts and systems in support of UAV swarm operations.


As part of the Future Air System concept, MBDA is actively exploring swarm opportunities. She developed several models of unmanned vehicles, which were presented at the Paris Air Show

Swarm delivery


The representative of the company MBDA said that they are actively developing their own concept of the Future Air System and its component - swarm capabilities. In particular, it includes the delivery of a swarm of UAVs by the so-called remote carrier (Remote Carrier), which will be "compact and inconspicuous" and will be able to work together with other platforms and weapons.

“As threats evolve and complexity increases, access denial strategies will need to create air superiority locally and temporarily,” the company said in a statement. “In these lightning-fast operations, the executive elements tied to the network will occupy a significant part in the“ battle cloud ”, exchanging tactical information and coordinates of targets in real time with platforms and other network nodes in order to achieve the desired impact efficiency.”

MBDA calls its remote carriers launched from combat and transport aircraft and surface ships "platform and weapon expanders that they accompany."

According to the company’s representative, the “remote media” project includes network infrared and radio-frequency sensors with the function of data fusion and automatic target identification in difficult situations; threat detection features; and the development of advanced planning tools and decision-making tools.

The specific systems studied by MBDA have tactical strike capabilities with "compact, networked weapons that are used outside the reach of weapons, capable of exerting a highly accurate impact and disorganizing enemy defenses due to group and swarm behavior."

The Polish company WB Electronics is also exploring the swarm possibilities for its drones and ammunition (BB). The company spoke about future plans for autonomous platforms operating in swarm configurations. According to Martin Masievsky, director of WB Electronics, the future operational success of these autonomous technologies will be based on the functionality that they can provide to the armed forces.

For example, this is the ability of the AP and UAV to fly in the absence of a GPS signal and exchange messages with other manned and unmanned aircraft during the performance of swarm missions.

Masievsky said that WB Electronics is developing swarm technologies to meet the needs of the armed forces in uninhabited systems, especially with support for operations in combat conditions, but at the same time could not provide more detailed information. He noted that WB Electronics is working to network up to six Warmate LM ammunition, although this project remains in the early stages of development. He also voiced his vision of the swarm capabilities of LM, which provides for the use of up to 20 drones tied into a single network for reconnaissance and information gathering.

Today, most of the swarm technology is being developed for airspace. However, long-term roadmaps can be supplemented by similar capabilities for surface and ground vehicles.

“These opportunities are not yet developed much. However, now business decisions are focused on aircraft, ”said Masievsky. “But with the development of technology, with increasing levels of autonomy and the emergence of artificial intelligence to ensure operations in three-dimensional space, it will become possible to transfer them to the surface or ground sphere.”

“But the potential is incredibly large, especially with the development of AI technology and its transfer to practical footing. In the future, we will be able to see amazing things, for example, a swarm of drones, acting like a flock of birds. The potential of these opportunities is huge. ”


In addition to the ability to launch and return flocks of autonomous vehicles, users must also be able to remotely control a large number of drones, ground robots or surface vehicles.

Operators should be provided with next-generation ground control software and end-user devices in order to optimally manipulate swarms while reducing the cognitive load on personnel. It is worth noting here the company Pison, which is developing gesture control technology in the interests of the US MTR. It allows operators to control the operation of UAVs with hand gestures due to the device worn on the wrist. According to the company, the next stage of the demonstrations is scheduled for June 2020.
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  1. 0
    13 February 2020 18: 04
    we have the "Flock-93" project. Little information, who knows what?
    1. -1
      13 February 2020 20: 26
      we have the "Flock-93" project. Little information, who knows what?

      We have just Derivation - air defense against a swarm of drones will be taken into the army ...
      1. +1
        14 February 2020 01: 53
        Quote: lucul
        we have the "Flock-93" project. Little information, who knows what?

        We have just Derivation - air defense against a swarm of drones will be taken into the army ...

        Yo-mine! I see that for many this "derivation" has become a "fetish"! Once they said: "When the master will come, the master will judge everything!" ... now "derivation" ... request
        1. -1
          14 February 2020 03: 38
          Yes, at least not Derivation, but in the 57 mm projectile the EMP can still be crammed, but below it is not so special. By the way, it seems to me that an EMR projectile with remote detonation will be much cheaper than a self-homing projectile with approximately the same efficiency for drones.
          1. +1
            14 February 2020 05: 31
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            An EMI projectile with remote detonation will be much cheaper than a self-guided projectile with approximately the same efficiency as drones.

            It is tempting to rely on "EMP-shells", of course! But .... here "will begin but "... There is a threat of destruction of your equipment ... hence there is a need to avoid this ... As a result, the organization, tactical actions of subunits become more complicated ... there is a need to modernize equipment (weapons). EMP weapons, in fact, are not "Panacea"! At the end of the last century, in the journal "Foreign Military Review", for example, articles were published where the possibility of the emergence of EMP weapons and measures of protection against them using shielding, the use of circuits with "Zener" diodes ... also, EMP ammunition is often mentioned, but so far not a single sample has been adopted ...
            1. +2
              14 February 2020 05: 40
              I don’t think that swarm drones will seriously protect against EMR, the dimensions are not the same and the cost will go uphill, so for serious equipment the impulse is not particularly scary, but for a UAV a swarm is the opposite.
              1. 0
                15 February 2020 14: 21
                Enti Roy-UAVs will therefore have a huge price - that way 300-500 thousand dollars. for a unit. But it’s necessary - a swarm!
                I'm not talking about the notorious AI, which is not even close, but it is a fundamental basic element of the whole concept.
                At the same time, these UAVs have nothing that would not allow them to be shot down by these same swarms by conventional air defense systems; including Ammunition is 20-30 times cheaper than these UAVs.
    2. 0
      16 February 2020 22: 09
      Somewhere by chance and not yesterday, such information crept in, swarm (of the Russian Federation), as such, has already been tested (implemented) and even the behavior has been updated, but no more gu-gu ((
  2. +1
    13 February 2020 18: 11
    All world military powers strive for one thing - to remove a person from the battlefield. Robotic systems are already appearing in combat operations, and then the war will be fought in the offices behind the joystick. At the same time, I won’t be surprised if a new kind of troops appears - cybernetic troops, which will manage all this unmanned strike equipment.
    1. +1
      13 February 2020 18: 32
      Soon, Andrei is soon, 15-20 years old, and you are all about promising aircraft carriers of the Russian Federation with precisely such terms of arming .... laughing About tanks with 152 mm guns ....
      As always preparing for the last war belay
      One thing is good and the enemy is no better, he is designing all zumvolts, but he needs submarine kamikaze drones.
      1. +1
        13 February 2020 18: 37
        Quote: bk316
        Soon Andrei is soon, 15-20 years old, and you are all talking about promising aircraft carriers of the Russian Federation with precisely such terms of deployment .... About tanks with 152 mm cannons ....
        As always preparing for the last war

        There is no past war, Vladimir. As for soon "... either we will scratch ourselves, or the adversary will force it. So your irony is certainly interesting, but in this case it is not quite a bull's-eye.
    2. 0
      13 February 2020 18: 36
      It looks like sofa troops. From gamers, volunteers, there will be no end.
      1. -1
        13 February 2020 18: 45
        Quote: Captive
        It looks like sofa troops. From gamers, volunteers, there will be no end.

        Everything goes to this ... I once looked at several videos about World of Tanks and noticed that there are certain rudiments of strategy, targeting, group play, etc. ... all this is now at the level of the game, but in the foreseeable future, I'm sure it will all go to real battlefields. Karel Čapek used the word of his brother, who introduced the word “robot” into everyday life, and if then it was a word from science fiction novels, now it is a term used everywhere.
        1. +2
          13 February 2020 19: 29
          I once looked at a few videos about World of Tanks


          I played in this for 6 years.

          noticed that there are certain beginnings of strategy, healing, group games, etc.


          The rudiments? Yes, strategy, healing, group game in the clan is all in this game.
          I’m just one hundred percent sure that the military uses data from similar games in the fields of psychology, artificial intelligence, training robots, etc.
          1. +2
            14 February 2020 02: 46
            That's right. And the joysticks are exactly the same for the military as in
            similar games, and displays. This is done deliberately so as not to retrain gamers.
            And it is gamers who are most likely to be taken into drone operators.
    3. 0
      14 February 2020 09: 49
      It seems to me that there is no point in directly controlling the drones. The problem of communication, interference, electronic warfare, reaction speed, unmasking of "access points".
      The swarms must be controlled by a computer (not to remember the AI ​​:)). So all else being equal, there will be a software war. Whoever will do and train the best self-learning software will win.
      Programmers have long been fighting virtual robots that operate independently according to the program.
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 14: 29
        There is an abyss between "according to the program" (that is, according to an algorithm created by man) and "self-learning software" (ie, AI). No. I'm lying. Ten chasms. With stakes and poison gas. (And "demons from the Warp" am - well then ...)
        1. 0
          17 February 2020 06: 13
          Yes, the gap is straight :). Depends on the level of both. For example, even a student can write self-learning software for playing tic-tac-toe.
  3. -1
    13 February 2020 18: 12
    Here's how to say it. The development topic is a necessary matter, but so far their application is far from normal operation:
    Aerovironment u Kratos Signs Agreement for Supply of Switchblade UAVs for Various Remote Controlled Carriers, including Kratos MQM-178 Firejet


    Five such “suicide drones” were fired at government forces, but thanks to the vigilance of Syrian soldiers, these deadly vehicles were destroyed. A study of the remains of drones showed that the position of the SAA was attacked by American-made Switchblade vehicles.
    Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/switchblade-usa/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko

    And yet, note that the CAA, which is equipped not very much, crashes. They just don’t pop their ears like the Saudis ... And this effect is very different from what the Pentagon and the developers sing. What is inconspicuous, quiet, low-vulnerable
    1. 0
      15 February 2020 14: 32
      Elegant!
      Expensive hi-tac drones were quickly littered with men in training from a simple rifleman.
      "This is the way. (Tm) Yes.
  4. 0
    13 February 2020 18: 13
    The swarm, by definition, should consist of a large number of small UAVs, each of which is not capable of carrying a normal supply of fuel / electricity, a high-resolution video camera and a sufficient image transmitter power.

    Then why all this hype (except for cutting the budget)?
    1. 0
      13 February 2020 18: 20
      In order to release the entire ammunition.
      Remember the film "Troubled Economy" about a false airfield. Here the task is the opposite ...
      1. 0
        13 February 2020 18: 30
        And why shoot at them - small UAVs themselves get in 30 minutes when the batteries are exhausted, and they can’t see anything with their half-blind video cameras and transmit with their low-power radio transmitters.

        If you also turn on the electronic warfare, which drowns their radio exchange with each other (for proper swarming), then in the air generally fun will begin - self-destruction.
        1. 0
          13 February 2020 21: 38
          Quote: Operator
          And why shoot at them - small UAVs themselves get in 30 minutes when the batteries are exhausted, and they can’t see anything with their half-blind video cameras and transmit with their low-power radio transmitters.

          If you also turn on the electronic warfare, which drowns their radio exchange with each other (for proper swarming), then in the air generally fun will begin - self-destruction.


          Do you have powerful electronic warfare systems in each tank group?


          Will it never reach you that really powerful EW weapons never take part in hostilities at the forefront?
          They cover only headquarters and strategic facilities.
          We have less than 2 dozen of the same krauchs throughout the country ...
          Do you know where they stand and why there are so few of them?
          1. 0
            14 February 2020 00: 11
            And why launch a swarm of video drones over each "group" of tanks - one, perhaps, will not cope?
          2. -1
            15 February 2020 14: 39
            EW company was in each division in Soviet times. Ahaha.
            Means of electronic warfare now - do not worry mom.
            What kind of structure is this "group of tanks"?
            And - yes, they have their own electronic warfare. Now on almost every tank. Already as standard mandatory equipment.
            But you don’t know anything about all this ...

            Wake up. You live when a third world country (Iran) doesn’t even just overwhelm, but carefully sets, for experiments (tm), the expensive drones of the world hegemon (USA).
            1. -1
              15 February 2020 15: 54
              Quote: Private-K


              Wake up. You live when a third world country (Iran) doesn’t even just overwhelm, but carefully sets, for experiments (tm), the expensive drones of the world hegemon (USA).


              Wake up yourself and stop living agitation about the motor depot ...
              Not a single drone of the United States, nor Sentinel, nor the Reaper was planted by Iranian means.
              The fact that they got 2 pieces as a result of the falls is just statistics that hundreds and thousands of flights make American drones over Iran with impunity.
              statistics confirming the rule.
              To make it clearer to you, I’ll say an analogy.
              There is such a hockey game.
              there is a goalkeeper.
              And they often say. that the goalkeeper is excellent, just handsome - he has a huge number of “saves”.
              And the fools rejoice.
              A specialist. looking at these statistics, he understands that the defense in such a team is complete G.
              Leaky sieve.
              Allows you to shoot your goalkeeper.


              And yes, they also have failures.
              And these failures lead to the fall of American drones around the world.

              You apparently still believe in Khibiny and Cook?
    2. 0
      13 February 2020 21: 35
      Quote: Operator
      The swarm, by definition, should consist of a large number of small UAVs, each of which is not capable of carrying a normal supply of fuel / electricity, a high-resolution video camera and a sufficient image transmitter power.

      Then why all this hype (except for cutting the budget)?

      And the essence of this fable is that a flock of hares (beats hard) of a lion ....
      Is the analogy clear?
      1. 0
        14 February 2020 00: 13
        What battle is video drones as a kamikaze?
        1. 0
          15 February 2020 15: 55
          Quote: Operator
          What battle is video drones as a kamikaze?


          in nature, never seen the tactics of many small bites, which ultimately lead to the death of a large huge beast?
          Well, think again.

          There are no video drones in a swarm.
          1. 0
            15 February 2020 16: 29
            What happens?
    3. -2
      14 February 2020 05: 52
      The point is not that it would all fly, but that it would fly cheaply. They can. We are not.
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 14: 42
        Those drones, which are discussed in the article, will cost well if 300-500 thousand dollars. Cheap, yeah.
    4. +1
      14 February 2020 23: 25
      [/ quote] Then why all this hype (except for cutting the budget)? [quote]


      Only for the dough and needed.
      AI is needed to control the swarm. Powerful AI. But he is not. And when it will be, it is not known. They say "gop", although they haven't even tried to jump yet. There is nothing at all for a swarm. Thousands of drones are not a swarm, they are a herd. We are not even able to recreate the intelligence of a bee. Not to mention the swarm of these bees. There is not enough computing power even to compute trajectories to avoid collisions.
      Unscientific fiction.
      1. 0
        15 February 2020 14: 44
        Totally agree.
        Let them listen to the lectures of prof. Savelyev, where he explains in detail the lousiness of all howls about AI. There are even his speeches in front of the developers thereof.
      2. 0
        15 February 2020 15: 57
        Quote: Podvodnik
        Then why all this hype (except for cutting the budget)?


        Only for the dough and needed.
        AI is needed to control the swarm. Powerful AI. But he is not. And when it will be, it is not known. They say "gop", although they haven't even tried to jump yet. There is nothing at all for a swarm. Thousands of drones are not a swarm, they are a herd. We are not even able to recreate the intelligence of a bee. Not to mention the swarm of these bees. There is not enough computing power even to compute trajectories to avoid collisions.
        Unscientific fiction.


        Drones do not need AI, all their tactics of action are pre-arranged according to variations.
        For all variants of attack on those or other objects are calculated.

        Them. drones, do not open Ohm's law ...
  5. +1
    13 February 2020 18: 29
    Thank you for a good fact-finding article.
    While really swarms and close did not. There is a pseudo-doorway, the so-called flock with a moving leader (there’s a bit about this in the article) Roy requires a real AI, and the swarm of the AI ​​should be the swarm itself and not something external. So far, even the models are so-so, but everything is developing rapidly ....
    1. +2
      14 February 2020 06: 24
      Quote: bk316
      Roy requires real AI

      I agree. On logic it is possible to implement only certain functionality. So the developers, amid discussions about the dangers of AI, are just head over heels that he’s not there. Without AI or its elements, the swarm concept is blown away. Even for shows, aliexpress drones with flashlights are used, but then suddenly not.
      1. +2
        14 February 2020 12: 27
        Without AI or its elements, the swarm concept is blown away.

        It's not just AI, it's getting more complicated. I turned up quite sad.

        Take a look. Suppose that they made 1000 UAVs, provided a stable, secure communication between them. We inserted computational modules, for example, neural network modules, into the UAV. They began to train.
        This is where the first problem arises. In fact, no one can build neural networks on such an architecture, even if the complex is symmetrically multiprocessor, there is an arbiter, there is a dedicated module, it is he who is responsible for storing the network architecture, for dispatching data flows, etc.
        This should not be here. Okay, suppose we solved the problem (we made that same sliding leader). They took a swarm and the enemy knocked out 25% of the UAV. What happened The network architecture has changed. But they taught it on a different architecture, and in general no one created a neural network with a dynamic structure, and here it is necessary not only with a dynamic one, but with a self-reconstructing one, preferably also not according to algorithms, but with AI .... In general, here you can start and finish work .... And what they show is advertising crafts.
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          14 February 2020 12: 48
          About that and speech. Swarm is dynamic making decisions - intelligent system (read - AI).
          In general, to avoid unnecessary questions hang noodles: no AI - no problem.
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          15 February 2020 16: 01
          Quote: bk316
          Without AI or its elements, the swarm concept is blown away.

          It's not just AI, it's getting more complicated. I turned up quite sad.

          Take a look. Suppose that they made 1000 UAVs, provided a stable, secure communication between them. We inserted computational modules, for example, neural network modules, into the UAV. They began to train.
          This is where the first problem arises. In fact, no one can build neural networks on such an architecture, even if the complex is symmetrically multiprocessor, there is an arbiter, there is a dedicated module, it is he who is responsible for storing the network architecture, for dispatching data flows, etc.
          This should not be here. Okay, suppose we solved the problem (we made that same sliding leader). They took a swarm and the enemy knocked out 25% of the UAV. What happened The network architecture has changed. But they taught it on a different architecture, and in general no one created a neural network with a dynamic structure, and here it is necessary not only with a dynamic one, but with a self-reconstructing one, preferably also not according to algorithms, but with AI .... In general, here you can start and finish work .... And what they show is advertising crafts.



          How does darknet routing work?

          How do decentralized computer networks work?
          This topic is already 60 years old and it has long been implemented ...
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    13 February 2020 18: 31
    In the swarm there should be scouts, and jammers, and the drums themselves. Run in the future. can from the surface of the earth and from submarines.
    1. -1
      13 February 2020 20: 03
      I remembered the movie "Big Walk", when 2 delta planes were attached to the car and flew ... During the Second World War there were systems with an airplane and several gliders.
      And what prevents one leader with a human operator on the ropes of the story Roy from here. Moreover, the cable is equipped with a wire for communication. And already directly at the target, after the aiming, to disengage.
      There may be several leaders.
      And the reb will interrupt if a person visually induces ...
      This is how I fantasize.
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        13 February 2020 22: 20
        And how will they take off with this cable?
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          14 February 2020 07: 32
          Like dogs in huskies
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            14 February 2020 07: 35
            It is unlikely that this will result in different "weight" categories.
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    13 February 2020 20: 03
    About something similar, Michael Crichton wrote the novel * Roy *. hi
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    13 February 2020 21: 43
    Quote: Phil77
    About something similar, Michael Crichton wrote the novel * Roy *.
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    Rather, Stanislav Lem- in his novel, straightforwardly one to one (Invincible)

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