Water in Crimea in exchange for the Donbass: In Kiev, announced a possible "compromise"

In Ukraine, they declared their readiness to compromise in the Crimea. The situation is connected with the supply of water to the peninsula blocked by Kiev.

David Arahamia, the head of the “Servant of the People” faction in the Verkhovna Rada, expressed his thoughts on the “compromise”.

According to him, the water "could have been allowed to go to the Crimea, since Ukrainian citizens live there anyway."

Arahamia said that water can be released to the peninsula along the North Crimean Canal "in exchange for full control of the territory of Donbass."
Arahamia:

If this is an exchange for the fact that they are leaving with all their armed forces to Rostov, and we will establish full control over our border. And for this it is necessary to supply water to the Crimea. I would definitely go for that. I will consider this a sufficient compromise.

By the word “they” Arahamia means the armed forces of LDNR, as well as the “Russian army”, which Kiev “continues to see” in the Donbas.

In Ukraine itself, it was stated that Arahamia commented on “the proposal of Vladimir Putin regarding possible concessions on the Donbass issue”.

It is worth paying attention to the fact that initially (as soon as Ukraine shut off the water supply of the peninsula) for some reason no one paid attention to the presence of Ukrainian citizens in Crimea in Kiev.

Comments

[210ox]

I will say one thing! Let's go to FIG!

[Spektr]

It seems that the pan is tightly shaking, and in Sumerians, the entire thought mechanism has been translated into the lower hemispheres. These statements are nothing short of foolishness.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Spectrum

It seems that the pan is tightly shaking, and in Sumerians, the entire thought mechanism has been translated into the lower hemispheres. These statements are nothing short of foolishness.

I do not agree. Here the main thing is not an idea (what are you talking about, there is a bone-tree), The main initiative is points, the next trick. As a result, you can jump into the show with the number of initiative options and hang noodles on.

[Spektr]

What kind of bone and what kind of tree can be in the lower hemispheres, there is only a fan consistency.

[siberalt]

Only a proctologist can look into the thoughts of the person who proposed such a deal.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: siberalt

Only a proctologist can look into the thoughts of the person who proposed such a deal.

There are not so many proctoglogs.
Every day something, but

[Hagalaz]

That is, you are for what Donbass still sell? The only question is price?

[Aleks2048]

That is, you are for what Donbass still sell? The only question is price?

I am for the fact that at the moment the Russian Federation does not acquire the Donbass. And it’s not a question of price.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex2048

I am for the fact that at the moment the Russian Federation does not acquire the Donbass.

It is up to the people of Donbass to decide, there are already some "sellers" who want to "buy" Donbass as a territory that, like the whole of Ukraine, can either be presented to the owners, or sold for a copper penny (like America from the Indians for beads). And do these homosapiens really call themselves people.

[Aleks2048]

It is up to the people of Donbas to decide

And we can probably not ask us citizens of the Russian Federation whether Russia needs the Donbass?

[Hagalaz]

First of all, Alex, you spoke very boldly for all the citizens of Russia, although you started the conversation on your own behalf.
Secondly, the question was about specific words of a specific person, where the topic is not about acquiring (in my opinion, disgusting) Donbass by Russia, but about selling / betraying the interests of Donbass and the interests of Russia in Donbass.
And thirdly, there are doubts that you will realize the need for Donbass for Russia. And if summarized, then if someone does not understand something, is it worth asking his opinion?

[Aleks2048]

First of all, Alex, you spoke very boldly for all the citizens of Russia, although you started the conversation on your own behalf.

And what have I expressed on your behalf as a citizen of the Russian Federation?

And thirdly, there are doubts that you will realize the need for Donbass for Russia.

Do not hesitate to believe that it is not necessary at the moment. Maybe later it will arise, but certainly not now.

[Siberian]

Apparently, it is high time to hold a referendum for the citizens of Donbass and Russian citizens about unification and close this issue. There should not be any border for a long time. I hope that the new government will decide on this, moreover, the referendum is a collective responsibility. And slowly move on. By a swoop, the whole Ukraine is not needed, if they don’t worry, nobody is going to capture them - they are not needed.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Siberian

Apparently, it is high time to hold a referendum for the citizens of Donbass and Russian citizens about unification and close this issue.

Donbass people say? But he is not at all united! There is LC, there is the DNI, between which there is both a border and customs. They tried to unite those and these for a long time, but nothing came of it. And LDNR wants to go to Russia as individual republics and nothing else.

[Aleks2048]

Apparently, it is high time to hold a referendum for the citizens of Donbass and Russian citizens about unification and close this issue. There should not be any border for a long time.

I hope you realize that for this kind of show you will need to fork out. Well, maybe it would be wiser to use this money in a different way in the interests of the Russian Federation, maybe even for the development of Siberia? Apparently, overpopulation has come in Siberia, that there is nowhere to live and new territories are vital?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Alex2048

That is, you are for what Donbass still sell? The only question is price?

I am for the fact that at the moment the Russian Federation does not acquire the Donbass. And it’s not a question of price.

Dill now would be better not to think about that. how to return the Donbass, and how to keep the remaining territories. Given that they have mattresses as tips, the scenario of the complete collapse of Ukraine is not far off.

[Aleks2048]

Dill now would be better not to think about that. how to return the Donbass, and how to keep the remaining territories.

It would be better for them to think about how, with minimal losses in the economy and human resources, to transform Ukraine into a confederation, and then generally decompose it into separate states. But they all cling to the slogan about a united Ukraine.

Given that they have mattresses as tips, the scenario of the complete collapse of Ukraine is not far off.

There are no prospects for such a development of events without clues. And in my opinion for Ukraine this would be the best option.

[venik]

Quote: Hagalaz

That is, you are for what Donbass still sell?

========
Yes here in other business! It seems that these "figures" have begun to "reach" that they cannot see Crimea as their own ears! So we decided to bargain, maybe at least something "to bargain" ..... Exactly in Zhvanetsky: "You don't see - a person has grief! He wants to bargain .... A legitimate desire!"

[antivirus]

I am for the supply of water at the expense of the outskirts, and you for the surrender of the Donbass?

[Hagalaz]

Where did you read it? This statement of yours sounds like a desire to build Donbass for clean water. Do not distort.

[Svarog]

Water in Crimea in exchange for the Donbass: In Kiev, announced a possible "compromise"

A compromise can only be considered with the western territories of Ukraine .. you can give them to the Poles .. in exchange for the whole of Ukraine ...

[Egoza]

Quote: Svarog

A compromise can only be considered with the western territories of Ukraine .. you can give them to the Poles .. in exchange for the whole of Ukraine ...

Well, then one smart guy offered to sell the land along the borders with Russia throughout Ukraine to the Americans. "The Americans defend their property. Where there is their property, they bring their troops there ..." Maybe Russia should already overwhelmingly protect the Russians, its citizens and its property?

[Svarog]

Quote: Egoza

Is Russia worth protecting capitally Russians, its citizens and its property?

It's time for Duck, but our officials are very worried about their overseas property .. it's hard to find another explanation ..

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Egoza

Quote: Svarog

A compromise can only be considered with the western territories of Ukraine .. you can give them to the Poles .. in exchange for the whole of Ukraine ...

Well, then one smart guy offered to sell the land along the borders with Russia throughout Ukraine to the Americans. "The Americans defend their property. Where there is their property, they bring their troops there ..." Maybe Russia should already overwhelmingly protect the Russians, its citizens and its property?

Israel, which we do not really love. He recaptured the Golan Heights from Syria because of the water ... They did not give a damn about all the world laws and rules, opinions and suggestions. Stupidly kicked the Syrians from the Golan Heights. Then came under UN sanctions and condemnations .. Spit on the tail of the UN. And they stayed with water for the country ... Of course, Crimea is not Israel and it is not Jews who live there, but citizens of Russia. In any case, it is considered so. Here are just a defense of the interests of Russia-Crimea-Sevastopol, a slander is waiting to take the necessary actions with regard to protecting the life and safety of his citizens, or not citizens at all ..... There is no determination to announce to the Ukrainian authorities that if the North-Crimean Channel is not unblocked the most decisive actions will follow to unlock the channel. Put an ultimatum. And set a deadline of three days. The states would have washed these shabbies of the Volodars with the shit of a sick toad, forced to eat ties and dirty socks!

[Alex Nevs]

Yes, mattresses would be democratized as Yugoslavia- and put on the UN.

[Boris55]

Quote: Egoza

Maybe Russia should already thoroughly protect Russians, its citizens and its property?

We haven’t removed all the proteges of the State Department appointed in the 90s. As the president said, we now have a balanced government, i.e. 50/50 ...
You have it.

[K-612-O]

So the Polish ministers, by the way, are already openly expressing themselves here that if Ukraine continues to degrade and disintegrate, then they will take control of the western regions.

[Lipchanin]

And they can do it

[tihonmarine]

Water in Crimea in exchange for the Donbass: In Kiev, announced a possible "compromise"

They are all ready to sell their homeland, land, exchange water in the Crimea for Donbas, the ashes of Kuznetsov for Bandera. Well, what do you call people? I believe that there are healthy forces in Ukraine that will demolish Bandera-Nazi formations, as your fathers and grandfathers took down all this fascist evil spirits in 1945.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

I will say one thing! Let's go to FIG!

Why so close?
Need to be far away

[Piramidon]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: 210ox

I will say one thing! Let's go to FIG!

Why so close?
Need to be far away

Here, or what?

[vladcub]

Haha However, it turned out beautifully and send and Vadim will not pick on

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Piramidon

Here, or what?

By the sign it is clear that there and to the left. So I always thought that I was sending correctly.

[AK1972]

Watch out, Stepan! Banned

[Piramidon]

Quote: AK1972

Watch out, Stepan! Banned

Google Maps is in their hands. I didn’t come up with this name. But, in principle, I will not be surprised. The admins counted the word "Debilizm" for me as a mate, although I argued in my correspondence with them that this is the official name of the disease and that they suffer from it. I wanted to write this word in Russian, but it was cut out again.
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[Alex Nevs]

Yes, they can poison the water. It’s easy to interrupt electrical supports, they could poison the air.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: 210ox

I will say one thing! Let's go to FIG!

You can answer with the words of Kisa Vorobyaninov: "Bargaining is not appropriate here."

[New Year day]

Quote: 210ox

I will say one thing! Let's go to FIG!

without a doubt! But there will be no more water from this!
February 5, 2020:
1. Today, the head of the State Water Committee of Crimea Igor Weil said that the water reserves for Simferopol remained for 90-100 days.
2. Scheduled water will be supplied to private and multi-apartment residential buildings of the Crimean capital, the head of the city administration, Elena Protsenko, told reporters today.
“We are at the peak of a dry year, and this is the most acute problem now, because the restriction of water supply will be introduced,” Protsenko noted. - Today I can say that this will affect all houses: both the private sector and the MKD (multi-apartment residential buildings). In addition to socially significant objects. "

[Crimean partisan 1974]

that water reserves for Simferopol remained for 90-100 days ....... this is not news. it has always been like this, Simferopol is fed from its reservoir from mountain drainage horizons, and it has always been like that, the Severokrymsky Canal did not bore to Simferopol in any way, at the moment there are water communications from the Kerch Peninsula, work is in full swing, so there is no need for Dnieper water. scum of panic, worthless

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

... water communications are in progress from the Kerch Peninsula

sources of water appeared in Kerch? Under the Union, Kerch was fed from the North Crimean Canal

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

scum of panic, worthless

actually, questions to them:
1. “Water supply restriction will be introduced. The regime will be posted on the website of the administration of Simferopol and additionally duplicated in the media "- the head of Simferopol, Elena Protsenko
2. "There are three reservoirs around Simferopol, but the water level in them is too low. In the past and this year, too little precipitation fell. The water remains for 900-100 days" - the State Committee for Water Resources of Crimea.
3. "" We are definitely thinking about this, do not even doubt, the government thinks, I know this problem personally. "- Putin
So that. the problem exists regardless of our desire

[Crimean partisan 1974]

sources of water appeared in Kerch? .... so, for information, from the Chushka Spit, two water mains are laid along the bottom of the Kerch Strait, feeds the entire Kerch Peninsula and Feodosia, communications are already crossing the steppe Crimea, the next step is access to the foothills, the process is underway, it’s a pity that you’re not in course
now point by point
1Water supply restriction will be introduced .-- it was always, another thing is the load on water systems increased, because if you did not notice Simferopol thoroughly increased, therefore it was strained, but the solution was not tans. and not at the expense of the CCM, of which there never was
2.Water left for 900-100 days "---- well, here either you got confused with zeros or really" 900 days ", in general, cubes are estimated per hour and not by days, nights, afternoon snacks and other inconveniences, the main descent for feeding the reservoir comes with March to May, so it's too early to start panic, and even so I live not far from GC -22, therefore I know when things are bad in the Simfiropol reservoir, at the moment the level is standard
3 well, there’s nothing to say, the issue will be resolved, and it is currently being resolved

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

feeds the entire Kerch Peninsula and Feodosia

those. Minister of Construction and Architecture of Crimea Mikhail Khramov is lying?
"The path that will stretch from North Crimean Canal to Feodosia and Kerch, is being built as part of the Federal Target Program "Social and Economic Development of the Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol until 2020"
The project provides for the supply of 195 thousand cubic meters of water per day: 106 thousand to Feodosia, 89 thousand to Kerch. The minister also added that the separation of water flows will go from Vladislavovka: a 12-km-long polyethylene pipe will go to Feodosia, and a cast-iron pipe 93,5 km long - to Kerch.
The main reservoir feeding Kerch and its environs is Novonikolaevskoye (named after the village). Water still enters into it only through the North Crimean Canal: in 2014, the Biyuk-Karasu River was sent to it, which replenishes the reservoirs of the Eastern Crimea.

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

... it's a pity that Khramov is not in the know

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

water communications are underway from the Kerch Peninsula

Water still flows into it through the North Crimean Canal: in 2014, the Biyuk-Karasu River was sent to it, which replenishes the reservoirs of the Eastern Crimea.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

the river Biyuk-Karasu was sent to it in 2014, which replenishes the reservoirs of the Eastern Crimea ........... everything is only up to Feodosia, there is still a reserve GK-22 (Salgir) nearby, but still to the Krchensky peninsula

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Water still flows into it through the North Crimean Canal: ....... you’ll go to Kerch, (or from Kerch) do not forget to call at the JCC in the Lenino area, I'm sorry, but what can come to Kerch if in the JCC in Lenino ankle-deep water and there is no current ??? so in Kerch water from the continent

[kot28.ru]

Sylvester offers to give up?

[New Year day]

Quote: kot28.ru

Sylvester offers to give up?

no. wash yourself with running water and drink quality water.
How do you wash and brush your teeth - in a basin?

[Victor_B]

(With a specific voice and intonation)
They are already being traded.

[Spektr]

They need to put forward a counter proposal, let them know all the Nazis and Bandera, then maybe we will agree to receive water in the Crimea, without any conditions in the Donbass.

[Whalebone]

The first step is awareness. The circuit always works.

[bessmertniy]

They have not yet realized that without their water the Crimea has somehow lived for more than one year, and they don’t get money for it because they don’t give water to the Crimea. As for the Donbass, the Donbass has long said its word that Ukraine is not a big deal for him.

[Livonetc]

The prosecution of war criminals, Nazis, putschists, constitutional reform, federalization.
Then the Donbass may start a dialogue with Ukraine.

[Aliken]

The Georgians rolled out in Ukraine, they rule fools in embroidered shirts.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Aliken

Georgians snapped up in Ukraine

Well, of course. After all, they "fought back against Putin" in 2008

[rocket757]

Water in Crimea in exchange for the Donbass: In Kiev, announced a possible "compromise"

To compromise with those with whom in the same meadow even sit down ... is not appropriate ??? P-fe.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: rocket757

To compromise with those with whom in the same meadow even sit down ... is not appropriate ??? P-fe

Come on ... Here's another. The water there is already spoiled ... Really. Stagnant swamps, do they want to lower them to Crimea? Yes, and something on this "play enough"? Like broilers ... the pan has grown to the head ...

[rocket757]

Hi Eugene
About the water that flows in some rivers you can’t say that it’s just water.
We still have few rivers in which the "syrup" flows, everything is much better to follow than in the "dashing 90", when it was - do what you want and nothing will happen if you paid the right person on time !
They have just such a period ...
Crimea needs water, especially technical water, but not "syrup".
Set Furious Greta on them! It is high time. Let the naughty in the "ranks" guide you!

[Alex Nevs]

Above wrote already - they do not cost anything to poison the water

[rocket757]

Quote: Alex Nevs

Above wrote already - they do not cost anything to poison the water

You can spit in every well ... monitoring / control systems for what? There is no high-speed flow; it is not long to arrange a shut-off dam / gateway.
Then, a serious poison of money costs ... but just waste, drains, so these volumes are needed, oh go, i.e. again expensive, and apparently it will be right away.
In general, it is solved.

[Alex Nevs]

Along the Dnieper there are a lot of chemical enterprises, redirect the pipe ...

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Come on ... Here's another. The water there is already spoiled ... Really. Stagnant swamps, do they want to lower them to Crimea? Yes, and something on this "play enough"? Like broilers ... the pan has grown to the head ...

Dnieper water was used for agriculture and technical needs, as well as in the steppe Crimea and southeast Crimea by the population after proper treatment. Why keep quiet ... It’s always been bad with water in the Crimea ... For that, the whole Soviet Union built this canal for the people's money ... The canal brought life to the Crimea! Without exaggeration, life!

[Crimean partisan 1974]

. The channel brought life to the Crimea! Without exaggeration, life! ........ life brought when the USSR was, and for 25 years with nenka 90% of the water from the CCM merged stupidly into Sivash, desalinating it beyond recognition, there was no goby or flounder-glossa, the ecosystem is completely was destroyed, even the weed bearing had nothing to grumble, so this stick is one way. and God forbid that CCM would not work again

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

and over 25 years with nenka 90% of the water from the CCM merged stupidly in Sivash, desalinating it beyond recognition

In 2013, the total water withdrawal amounted to 1553,78 million m³, including:
water of the North Crimean Canal - 1346,3 million m³ (86,65%),
local runoff - 136,38 million m³ (8,78%),
groundwater - 68,54 million m³ (4,41%).
The volume of water consumption from the CCM was:]
agriculture - 590,18 million m³ (77%),
housing and communal services - 125,3 million m³ (16,4%),
industry - 50,64 million m³ (6,6%).
With the commissioning of the North Crimean Canal, the area of ​​irrigated land increased by 358 thousand ha and reached a maximum of 402 thousand ha, which is 22% of agricultural land.
In 2015, the irrigation area was reduced to 10,1 thousand ha; in 2016, the area amounted to 11,7 thousand ha.
What are there

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

... gobies ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

In 2015, the irrigation area was reduced ..... do not confuse reality with fiction, almost 90% of agricultural land belongs to private owners, the remaining 10% are all kinds of LLCs (they have gradually died out) that did not take water from the CCM. because it’s expensive, I prefer to beat my wells, so I don’t need a shadow on the wattle fence. all water from the SSK was discharged into Sivash, and the private trader learned how to economically use water for agricultural needs

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

almost 90% of agricultural land belongs to private traders; the remaining 10% are all kinds of LLC

what difference is whose land? Is there any local agricultural produce? In very small quantities. Gardens of the northern Crimea ordered a long life, rice growing, too. Where are the gardens now? ”“ Bakhchisaray, where there is water.

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

all the water from the SSC drained into Sivash,

even boring to oppose. once again - take a trip to Nizhnegorsky district

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Gardens of the northern Crimea ordered a long life, .... not at all, since they have been laying new plants for 5 years, plus vineyards, and even the greenhouse private sector is gaining momentum
even boring to oppose. once again - take a trip to the Nizhnegorsky district ... you won’t believe it, I live here, drive into Sadovoe and you will be amazed at the gardens. and the perpetrators lived forever in crops. and rice, .. rice roads in the steppe to grow. and even so, when the councils, rice farming was a subsidized economy

[New Year day]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

you will not believe, I live here

and I have an uncle in Nizhnegorsky

[Crimean partisan 1974]

and I have an uncle in Nizhnegorsky ..... nusss and Che uncle does not see what Gerusov is doing there and everything around ??? gardening

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

there was no goby or flounder-glossa, the ecosystem was completely destroyed, even weed bearing

They caught fish predatory and ruthlessly. And they continue to catch poaching ... I can’t condemn people ... They need to live ... And the fields and gardens without Dnieper water in the Crimea are dying .. Now there is no Crimean rice, there are no forage crops, which means there is no dairy farming.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

And the fields and gardens without Dnieper water in Crimea die .. Now there is no Crimean rice, there are no forage crops, which means there is no dairy farming ... fields and gardens as they were, drip irrigation saves healthy water, this is a fact , rice is not profitable for a private owner — the costs are large, fodder crops and dairy farming have gone far into the private sector, so that it’s impossible to count any sane count, it’s just there

[New Year day]

Quote: 30 vis

They caught fish predatory and ruthlessly. And they continue to poach ...

that's for sure! Flounder -clan can be bought year-round. How does it get to the market - I don’t understand

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Flounder -clan can be bought year-round. how she gets to the market, I don’t understand ..... from Azov

[novel66]

so I see him !!!

[Moonsund]

How they used to change their homeland for lard, they think that everyone does this

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Moonsund

How are you used to change the homeland for fat,

To the cookie

[Incvizitor]

The one who sells the country does not have a homeland.

[Amateur]

According to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, adopted by resolution 260 (III) of the UN General Assembly of December 9, 1948, “genocide means acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, any national, ethnic, racial or religious group as such "(Art. II), and paragraph c supplements this definition: through" the deliberate creation for any group of such living conditions that are designed for its complete or partial physical destruction. " Following the genocide in Rwanda, the UN concluded: "Deliberate obstruction of the supply of drinking water or water for irrigation of fields, which may or caused drought and crop failure or lack of drinking and / or irrigation water ... and the artificial facilitation of a humanitarian disaster due to a lack of drinking and irrigation water is a manifestation of genocide and ecocide... as well as a grave crime against the world and humanity. "

OSCE, Amnesty International, HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH and others! AU, where are you?
Or did your eyes flood you with water from the blocked Crimean Canal?

[pru-pavel]

here is the text of this convention
https://www.un.org/ru/documents/decl_conv/conventions/genocide.shtml
try to find your quote there, or something similar to it

[carstorm 11]

do you want to blackmail me with water? 404 breaks the bottom harder and harder ...

[orionvitt]

Quote: carstorm 11

404 breaks the bottom harder and harder ...

The fact that they live on another planet. Under the name of Ukraine, everything is not like people there.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: orionvitt

The fact that they live on another planet.

Yes, and they have their own globe

[DMB 75]

The Nazis did the same during the blockade of Leningrad. What other proof of the existence of the fascist regime in Ukraine is needed?

[Alex Nevs]

quarter 404 in action.

[revnagan]

Quote: carstorm 11

do you want to blackmail me with water?

And why gas-it is possible, oil-it is possible, and water-it is impossible?

[carstorm 11]

water is not possible due to conventions. as for gas or oil, I'm sorry I do not understand.

[Polite Moose]

water can be released to the peninsula along the North Crimean Canal "in exchange for full control of the territory of Donbass

And after gaining control over the territory, water can be shut off again. Rate, gentlemen! What a subtle and cunning plan. What a Jesuit treachery. Yes, this Arahamia is not simple. Just the devil in the flesh. Politician and businessman with a capital letter.
PS Letter "X"

[Alex Nevs]

He is a naive highlander - he thinks the smartest, and differs from a lamb only in size ... of the intestine

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Alex Nevs

He is a naive highlander - he thinks the smartest, and differs from a lamb only in size ... of the intestine

The lamb, in addition, has a developed intellect, capable of comparing its actions and their subsequent consequences.

[Strashila]

It is clear that in Crimea there are water difficulties due to the canal blocking, but the borders are still large on the other side due to soil salinity and the population there is not very happy with this.

[maksbazhin]

Why, so far, have not begun to build a conduit. Is it technically not possible or is the price tag sky-high? I haven’t heard this issue anywhere to be considered. Water is needed on the peninsula. And we are all told drip irrigation .

[Guards turn]

Blow to blow: is it possible to deprive Ukraine of water? If Ukraine blocked the North Crimean Canal, then Russia has every right to block the Dnieper on its territory, believes Vladimir Zhirinovsky. In his opinion, it is technically possible.

"If Kiev cut off the water to Crimea, and Crimea's agriculture dries up, we can do the same in the upper reaches of the Dnieper. We will build a dam near the village of Krasnoe. We will build a new canal in five months. And the water will go to the Don or the Desna River. Both of these rivers flow through the territory of the Russian Federation. Kiev must understand that any blow can get another blow. They leave Crimea without water, we will leave the whole of Ukraine without water. "

"The Dnieper originates in Russia, flows through Smolensk, then through the territory of Belarus, then enters the Ukraine, crosses it and flows into the Black Sea near Kherson. Kiev, Cherkassy, ​​Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye stand on the Dnieper. This is the country's main waterway. The Dnieper provides Ukraine with fresh water and has hydroelectric power plants, including the famous Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station. ”The importance of this river for the country is enormous, says our own correspondent in Ukraine Vladimir Sinelnikov.

“We can say that the Dnieper is everything for Ukraine. It actually feeds two-thirds of the country with water. If you block the Dnieper, it means that not only Kiev will be left without water, but everything that is downstream of the Dnieper. Up to Kherson. Both the Dnieper and its largest tributaries - the Pripyat and Desna - flow from Russia and Belarus. This means that what forms the water balance of the Dnieper is actually created on the territory of Russia and Belarus. "

[pru-pavel]

In fact, these things are completely different. It’s one thing to block the man-made channel created by man - who is not even 100 years old. Another thing is the closure of a natural river that has formed millions of years and is a necessary condition for the existence of biocenoses near it. From the point of view of international law, this is a crime.

[Guards turn]

But is it not a crime to trade the remains of a Soviet intelligence agent from the point of view of international law? The ashes of the scout Nikolai Kuznetsov were taken hostage by the Lviv City Hall. Relatives wanted to rebury the remains of Kuznetsov in their homeland, but they were banned and put forward counterclaims.

[pru-pavel]

To be honest, I was not interested in this. And honestly, I'm not too interested in the affairs of the dead. Well, by the way, if you block the Dnieper, Belarusians will thank you very much. They have half of the rivers - tributaries of the Dnieper, Here they will be glad that they were left without water

[Aleks2048]

The ashes of the scout Nikolai Kuznetsov were taken hostage by the Lviv City Hall. Relatives wanted to rebury the remains of Kuznetsov at home

It seems to me that the desire of relatives seems to be not normal for the sake of a momentary whim to shake the remains out of the burial place and put them closer to themselves. Maybe relatives need to be easier and a little with universal morality while remaining in the world to erect a monument in their homeland?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: pru-pavel

It is one thing to block the man-made channel created by man - who is not even 100 years old.

And to deprive a person of water is not inhuman? And not Ukraine built this channel ...

[pru-pavel]

Yes there is water. There is plenty of water to drink. Of course, there isn’t enough for agricultural production (well, that’s how it was raised according to the possibilities). But for millennia, Crimea lived without a canal, the canal worked for less than 50 years, and Crimea will continue to live, nothing will be done to it.

[New Year day]

Quote: pru-pavel

Yes there is water.

then visit and look at the gardens of the Nizhnegorsky district, for example. Last year’s technological disaster in Armyansk was forgotten when, due to lack of water, the evaporation of chemicals from the settlers of the chemical plant began?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: pru-pavel

Yes there is water. There is plenty of water to drink.

Cattle and wild animals go to the watering hole ... About

Quote: pru-pavel

But for millennia, Crimea lived without a canal, the canal worked for less than 50 years, and Crimea will continue to live, nothing will be done to it.

Your distant ancestors used to eat raw meat and go for themselves, the Internet and mobile phones are less than fifty years in wide use ... It’s also normal without all this. And now you can show an example of life without the benefits of civilization — water and sewage. Good luck! !

[Orkraider]

Quote: pru-pavel

In fact, these things are completely different. It’s one thing to block the man-made channel created by man - who is not even 100 years old. Another thing is the closure of a natural river that has formed millions of years and is a necessary condition for the existence of biocenoses near it. From the point of view of international law, this is a crime.

Not quite.
Deliberate obstruction of the flow of drinking water or water for field irrigation, which could or caused drought and crop failure or lack of drinking and / or irrigation water ... and the artificial facilitation of a humanitarian disaster due to lack of drinking and irrigation water.
I quoted it directly ..
Artificial canals or water supply through pipelines - there is no difference, since the norms on WAYS of its supply are not regulated anywhere.

The very fact of termination or restriction of filing, i.e. CHANGE in the current state of affairs is both a violation and a crime.

[Orkraider]

In short:
Art. 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states: "Everyone has the right to such a standard of living, food, clothing, housing, medical care and necessary social services, which is necessary to maintain the well-being of himself and his family ..." 4.

In this case, the right to access to drinking water derives from the concept of "food", since it includes not only high-quality food, but high-quality, and therefore clean, drinking water.

Art. 1, 11, 12 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (1966) read: "All peoples, in order to achieve their goals, can freely dispose of natural wealth and resources without prejudice to any obligations ..." and "everyone's right to an adequate standard of living for him and his family, including adequate food, clothing and housing, and the continuous improvement of living conditions "and" the right of everyone to the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health "5.

Art. 11 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (1966) reads: "All peoples to achieve their goals can freely dispose of natural wealth and resources ..." 6.

The Protocol on Water and Health7 to the Convention on the Protection and Use of Transboundary Watercourses and International Lakes specifies: “The Parties are guided by the following principles and approaches: equal access to drinking water, both in terms of adequate quantity and quality, should be provided to all members of society , especially those who are disadvantaged or suffering from social exclusion "," The Parties shall take all appropriate measures to ensure: an adequate supply of drinking water, adequate sanitation and prevention measures, and the Parties shall ensure access to drinking water for all. "

The Declaration of Social Progress and Development, proclaimed by the UN General Assembly on December 11, 1969, is aimed at "equal participation of developing and developed countries in the use of the achievements of science and technology and the ever wider application of science and technology for the benefit of the social development of society."

The Charter of Economic Rights and Obligations of States of December 12, 1974, recognizes that each state is primarily responsible for promoting the economic, social and cultural progress of its people, for choosing its goals and means of development, mobilizing and making full use of its resources, gradual implementation of economic and social reforms and ensuring the full participation of their people in the development processes and the use of its results.

The Declaration on the Right to Development (1986) states: “the person is the main subject of the development process and must be an active participant and beneficiary of the right to development” 9.

In September 1990, at the World Summit for Children, the Heads of State and Government in New York adopted the World Declaration on the Survival, Protection and Development of Children, in which they pledged to promote the provision of water for all children.

The World Water Treaty (1998) emphasizes the personal right to water and citizen participation. It proves the need for the free provision of water necessary to meet basic needs.

In accordance with the Action Plan adopted at the UN Conference on Water Resources held in 1977 in the Argentine city of Mar del Plata, all nations have the right to have high-quality drinking water in quantities sufficient to meet their basic needs.

Not a lawyer, but I understand that we can’t win in European courts, but we must try!

[pru-pavel]

Win nothing. Crimeans have access to drinking water.

[Orkraider]

What is?
In addition to drinking water, there is the concept of water to meet needs, which, for example, includes Water for agriculture.

The very fact of termination or restriction of filing, i.e. CHANGE in the current state of affairs is a violation.

[pru-pavel]

Give a quote with reference to international laws about the existing. There, in general, Ukraine is a supplier, and they paid money for water from the canal, and the supplier, if it is not obligated by laws and supply contracts, is not obliged to supply anything

[pru-pavel]

I already wrote that this is a fake quote

[vladcub]

But it sounds spectacular

[atalef]

Quote: Guards turn

If Ukraine has blocked the North Crimean Canal, then Russia has every right to block the Dnieper

it doesn’t, in international law there is a clear definition of what natural river flows and artificial structures are.
So Ukraine has every right to block the channel, Russia has no right to block the Dnieper.
Alas and ah

Quote: Guards turn

In Kiev, they must understand that any blow can get another blow. They leave Crimea without water, we will leave the whole of Ukraine without water. "

do not leave.

Quote: Guards turn

... This means that what forms the water balance of the Dnieper is actually being created on the territory of Russia and Belarus. "

So what ?

[Dym71]

Quote: atalef

don't leave

Of course, we will not leave Alexander, and not under pain of new sanctions, but on the basis of common sense.

Quote: atalef

So what ?

Ushlupki sit in parliament, that's what

[andj61]

Quote: Guards turn

If Ukraine blocked the North Crimean Canal, then Russia has every right to block the Dnieper on its territory, believes Vladimir Zhirinovsky. In his opinion, it is technically possible.

The Dnieper will have to be blocked not for Ukraine, but for Belarus. And this is a completely different matter.

[Alex Nevs]

And then lose bills over the hill? You are out of your mind.

[Mityay65]

Arahamia said that water can be released to the peninsula along the North Crimean Canal "in exchange for full control of the territory of Donbass."

The point is not in Arahamia and not in the statements of the different nations spilling out. The main question for the Kremlin is why the issue of water from the North Crimean Canal has not been resolved in 5 (five, Karl !!!) years?
During this time, a serious degradation of agriculture of the northern steppe Crimea took place, planting of fruit and berry crops was reduced, farmers go bankrupt, throw land and leave. And further there will be the desolation and ruin of the steppe Crimea, the negative is not all.
I have no questions about Arahamia. There are questions to Neprichchekin

[carstorm 11]

Do you think that such issues are resolved with a wave of your hand? all these years this topic has come first and everything that is possible is being done. it just can’t be solved quickly. One replacement of pipes through which losses of wild water throughout the peninsula take years.

[Mityay65]

I think that over 5 years the issue could be resolved in many ways. And they were all discussed.
For example, the construction of a water conduit from the mouth of the Kuban. Expensive but solution. For a year it would be possible to solve.
Or taking control of the zone of the North Crimean Canada to the Dnieper, it is faster and more reasonable. But solutions are needed, not chewing snot.

Quote: carstorm 11

for one pipe replacement through which wild water losses throughout the peninsula take years.

I see, you are not a plumber and did not come across a topic?

[carstorm 11]

Of course not. just taking into account the deterioration of the systems that 404 left, I have no doubt that there should be 50 percent losses. And this, taking into account the deficit, should have a very strong effect. as for the various projects, I don’t touch them because I have no doubt that if it were all, it would have been a long time since they had already decided. The situation with the price of this issue is not the main factor. not that case.

[Mityay65]

Quote: carstorm 11

Of course not. just taking into account the deterioration of the systems that 404 left, I do not even doubt that the losses there should be 50 percent.

It’s very bad when people start talking about topics that they don’t have a clue about

[carstorm 11]

I don’t argue, but I guess) if I’m wrong, I will accept it.) I won’t argue, I just learn something new. and not my words, but someone from the leadership of the region. I don’t remember anymore.

[atalef]

Quote: Mityai65

Or taking control of the zone of the North Crimean Canada to the Dnieper, it is faster and more reasonable. But solutions are needed, not chewing snot.

What is it like?

[Mityay65]

Quote: atalef

What is it like?

In what sense?

[evgic]

Judging by the depth of idiocy you are a plumber. In order to use the water supply system in the agriculture of the Crimea, it must be 6 meters in diameter, in two pipes. This can only be laid along the bottom of the sea, theoretically, as I can’t imagine in practice. It will cost unthinkable money; no agriculture will ever pay for it. But you can gather like-minded people, chip in and build this mega-building with your own money. Although I think it’s not going to go beyond fantasy

[Mityay65]

Quote: evgic

Judging by the depth of idiocy you are a plumber.

No, I'm just a designer of pipeline systems for various purposes. But what caused your "level of idiocy"? A sagging sofa?

Quote: evgic

In order to use the water supply system in the agriculture of the Crimea, it must be 6 meters in diameter, in two pipes.

I beg you, do not pretend that you are a pipeline system designer, this is ridiculous
Professionalism is one thing, and idiocy is another thing ...

Quote: evgic

This can only be laid along the bottom of the sea, theoretically, as I can’t imagine in practice. It will cost unthinkable money; no agriculture will ever pay for it.

The projects were made various, and rather quickly. Techno-economic comparisons of various options are carried out, with different waterways and pumping lines of various capacities. Yes, the main pipeline along the bottom of the sea, water intake at the mouth of the Kuban.

Quote: evgic

It will cost unthinkable money; no agriculture will ever pay for it. But you can gather like-minded people, chip in and build this mega-building with your own money.

The price is several times cheaper than the main gas pipeline of the same diameter, the pressure in the pipe is many times less, the requirements for the pipe are less and the pumping room is much cheaper than the compressor. You obviously don’t understand what you’re carrying.
Various departments dealt with this issue, under the auspices of the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Projects were prepared by several institutes. We got to the feasibility study. True, then everything died out, why - I do not know. But not for the money, that's for sure.

Quote: evgic

Although I think it’s not going to go beyond fantasy

You should adjust your "level of idiocy"

[evgic]

I have been designing oil trunk pipelines for 20 years and I know all this cuisine very well. Taki yes 6m in two pipes on the bottom of the sea. The idiocy of pure water. Yes, water can be taken only in the Don, and this is 700 km. In addition, Don became shallow as the Seversky Donets. It is also an environmental problem. Idiocy squared. You will also have to cross many roads, power lines and other structures and re-arrange them all. Idiocy in the cube. You can immediately see the water through the pipes chasing a distance of 50 km maximum

[evgic]

I don’t know what’s in your brain, probably the substance that you drive through the pipes, but in my labor it is the design of the main oil pipelines.

Go read on the Internet, under what pressure and at what expense water is supplied ... connoisseur, damn it .. sad

Here again, the depth of idiocy crawled out. This is not a city network; what project pressure you put in, it will be. STU do it anyway. And the flow rate still needs to be calculated on the agricultural sector of the whole Crimea, it may not be enough. So stop being dressed up and build yourself as a great designer.

[Mityay65]

Quote: evgic

in my work it is the design of main oil pipelines.

This is mistake. It should be written: "Designing and creating a bedsore on a sofa. An 80th grade sofa maker"

Quote: evgic

Here again, the depth of idiocy crawled out. This is not a city network; what project pressure you put in, it will be.

Would you walk in the forest, huh? The proposal that I oversaw, in general terms: 6 lines, first line 2 lines. Inlet pressure 1,2 MPa. Conditional diameter 600 mm.

Quote: evgic

And the flow rate still needs to be calculated on the agricultural sector of the whole Crimea, it may not be enough.

The first stage was enough for agricultural without rice checks: for irrigated crop production, gardening and animal husbandry. The flow rate for agricultural is cyclical, and the water supply for filling reservoirs is constant. Therefore, the flow was enough. The main thing during the flood period is to fill the buffer reservoirs.
The consumption for rice checks amounted to 80% of the water consumption according to the CCM.

Quote: evgic

So stop being dressed up and build yourself as a great designer.

Where did we start? If there is nothing to say, it is better to be silent Yes?

[evgic]

Do not doubt I have two of them. However, the questions remained unanswered. From this we can conclude that your knowledge in the design of linear structures is more than modest.

[Mityay65]

Quote: evgic

Do not doubt I have two of them.

I never would have thought.
Victim of the Soviet image? But you will not say ...

[Mityay65]

Well, as a volunteer assistance to people with disabilities in the sofa industry, I propose to read the material on the link:
[media = http: //www.cok.ru/articles/uste-reki-kuban-severokrymskiy-kanal-variant-perebroski-presnoy-vody-v-krym]
It's not all smooth with the technique, but on the whole it’s true and there are a lot of pictures, you will understand

[evgic]

None of the shallowed Kuban will give water.

[Mityay65]

Quote: evgic

None of the shallowed Kuban will give water.

And ... so the pictures still helped the dude with the two higher ones figure out where the water intake was planned from?

Quote: Mityai65

The flow rate for agricultural is cyclical, and the water supply for filling reservoirs is constant.

Now we need to understand the following: I wrote above that water withdrawal was planned in the conditions of high water and high water in the Kuban, with a supply of water in buffer reservoirs.
Clear? Cyclical flow rate for agricultural, constant filling of reservoirs.
Sort it out.

[evgic]

I didn’t even watch them. I’m not sitting on the couch, unlike you. Do you also want to build a reservoir? Yeah. Brain degradation of the face. The turn of Siberian rivers haunts the mischievous masturbation. Well masturbate further.

[Mityay65]

Quote: evgic

The turn of Siberian rivers haunts the mischievous masturbation. Well masturbate further.

Two higher? Right?
You should contact the universities that have given you diplomas and demand a refund of money for study. Apparently, on their part it was a fraud

[vladcub]

Maybe the channel, otherwise Canada is somehow not familiar

[Mityay65]

Quote: vladcub

Canada is somehow not familiar

Grammar Nazi? They are always there, always with us ...
No, don’t fuss, I was put on the shooting list 15 years ago ...

[atalef]

Quote: Mityai65

why in 5 (five, Karl !!!) years the issue of water from the North Crimean Canal has not been resolved?

no money or desire

Quote: Mityai65

During this time, a serious degradation of agriculture of the northern steppe Crimea took place, planting of fruit and berry crops was reduced, farmers go bankrupt, throw land and leave

freedom comes at a price.

[Dym71]

Quote: atalef

freedom comes at a price

[Servisinzhener]

Is there any way to get so much water? If you take water from the Kuban River, the salinity of the Sea of ​​Azov is likely to increase. Because water flow through the North Crimean Canal is 380 cubic meters / s, and in the Kuban 425 cubic meters / s. I cannot say how critical this will be.
And of course, it will be necessary to build about three tens of kilometers of a water supply system of the corresponding diameter. The channel from the Kuban to the Akhtanizovsky estuary and from there to Taman. Plus alteration of pumping stations along the entire length of the channel, as water will flow back from the design.
I prefer the option of liberating the territory from Ukrofashists from Kakhovka to the mouth of the Dnieper, following the example of Israel and the Golan Heights.

[Lamata]

And how do you supply water from the Kuban to the Crimea? conduit to do? on the bottom of the sea?

[Servisinzhener]

Yes, there is a water conduit on the bottom, as before the energy bridge and gas pipeline + pumping stations for pumping water were made.

[AlexVas44]

And it can still go the way once proposed by Yuri Luzhkov - the Dnieper water to the Volga, then to the Don, etc. The upper reaches of the Dnieper in Russia, our water, and goes to Ukraine. Need to share ...

[ANB]

So you have to agree. Our troops in the Donbass are already gone. Let the water run. And on the control of the territory - this is for them to agree with the republics.

[Astra wild]

Quote: Aliken

The Georgians rolled out in Ukraine, they rule fools in embroidered shirts.

You voiced my thoughts: this Arahamia is as much like a Ukrainian as a cat in a hippo.
I was directly skilled at their selective approach to the language: Russian can only be poorly Ukrainian, and Mishiko Saakashvili did not speak Ukrainian at all and he was good

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Astra wild

and Mishiko Saakashvili didn’t speak Ukrainian at all and he was good

Avakov still does not speak.
And in the very parliament, half say that ... The other half hardly understand them

[Lamata]

A true Ukrainian, purely ethnic, David Arahamia !!!

[Hagalaz]

That's huckster! Mom, go and sell at a reasonable price.
And again, if you hypothetically imagine such an exchange, then who will stop these bargain-hitters from getting some water then block it again?

[viktor_ui]

yes yes, "3 crusts of bread" ... Arachamia is a direct descendant of the cat Basilio.

[Cowbra]

It seems that it’s not the season for mushrooms, but they found mushrooms somewhere ...

[Lamata]

they prepared it for the future, and under the vodka the mushrooms then go nobly, over there

[Sapsan136]

It’s time to cut off water to Ukraine ... the water in the Dnieper is 60% from the Russian Federation ... All Gaster and patriots of the independent people who are hanging around in the Russian Federation at 48, let the Poles feed them if they need it .... Enough for them to go round Russia!

[revnagan]

They forgot to add “Hurray!” Ukraine will not be able to block water from the words “in any way” and “absolutely.” Perhaps the Russian leadership should try to negotiate, offer interesting conditions, a good price, no?

[Sapsan136]

Ukraine will be able to shut off water at a time, since Russia itself lacks water in the Don and the Volga ...

[tihonmarine]

If this is an exchange for the fact that they are leaving with all their armed formations to Rostov, and we will establish full control over our border.

And after that, Donbas turns into a death camp.

[New Year day]

Quote from rudolf

For all the time since the 14th goal, Russia has never demanded to resume the water supply to Crimea.

precisely noticed!

[Lamata]

I support you, where are our actions? or it is important to divide plots in the Crimea and Oleg Zubkov with his fleet spread rot.

[Ros 56]

The question is for everyone, why do banderlogs work only in the lower hemispheres of the brain, and the upper ones are completely disabled?

[Thompson]

The strength of their natural habit and mentality - everything is for sale and changing ...
Business: water- in the Donbass. And their whole skirting level

[Thompson]

Quote: Berkut-38

In the Kuban, problems with water. It always has been, that’s why the decision was made to transfer Crimea, by the way, the issue was discussed under Stalin. Khrushchev there sideways :-)

Was this presented to you by the latest Ukrainian history? What side is the water in the Kuban related to the transfer of Crimea to the outskirts? Learned to read and write, happy. But didn’t you learn to think and analyze?

[bar]

In Ukraine, they declared their readiness to make a compromise

What kind of agreements and compromises can there be with an absolutely imperishable country?

[iouris]

Overlapping water is an act of aggression left without response.

[Operator]

It is strange that we have not blocked the Dnieper at the entrance to the outskirts with the transfer of water to the Don and further to the Crimea.

Here is Arahamia of radioactive sludge from the Kiev reservoir.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Under the word "they" Arahamia means the armed forces of LDNR

Once again I confirmed the fact that they do not need LDNR residents - only the territory is needed .....

[aleks.29ru]

Water needed to be linked to transit.

[Astra wild]

Quote from rudolf

And what proposal of Putin regarding concessions for the Donbass is discussed in the article? Maybe someone in the know?

Probably theirs Wishlist?

[Incvizitor]

Can Russia also block grunts of all rivers? Well, if Russian grunts in Crimea are blocked.

[Skubudu]

404 blocked the water to Crimea, but continues to receive gas from Russia.

[Lamata]

so we have a lamp Miller and his team, are constantly being watered down. He is such, such a specialist, that if he is paid less, then Western companies will lead him away)))) and even leaflets cannot be handed out.

[Victor March 47]

Mute bad. We will take away Donbass and we will not give up Crimea. They will be against- they will lose Lviv.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Skubudu

404 blocked the water to Crimea, but continues to receive gas from Russia.

Replace ukrozopykh in Kiev so that they do not resist gas transit. We drive gas through them many times more than Ukrain.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: aleks.29ru

Water needed to be linked to transit.

What transit? This is the Germans will be outraged. Ukram cut off everything that we give from oil, gas, iron, and we must begin with the taxation of sending the dough we earned there.

[ANB]

Quote: ANB

So you have to agree. Our troops in the Donbass are already gone. Let the water run. And on the control of the territory - this is for them to agree with the republics.

As I wrote briefly, I will outline the plan in more detail.
We show interest and offer a contract.
In the contract, we prescribe the price of water, the obligation of Ukraine to supply it uninterruptedly, the obligation of the Russian Federation to withdraw troops from the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions.
Everything is written with the correct signatures.
The next day we introduce troops to the entire territory of the regions, simultaneously polishing Natsik and the Armed Forces of Ukraine for shelling.
At the same time, we protect the canal and tear down the dam.
A day later, solemnly, with flags, we withdraw troops. Through Kharkov, for example.
We suggest negotiating with the republics along the border, as these are so far their citizens.
We leave the protection of the channel, referring to the precedents of Panama, Syria. And to undermine power lines.
We trumpet everywhere that we are well done and how we have clearly fulfilled all the agreements.

[Kontuzia]

Stupid sentences, I have not heard ....

[Astra55]

Absolutely shook the shores.

[sgr291158]

Well, what a petty people, they can only crap finely.

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: sgr291158

Well, what a petty people, they can only crap finely.

everything is simple, the Jews were and will be, but there is a reason !!!
ps I'm not a Nazi, I did not say anything about the Jewish nation in the text.
I’m from Chuvashia, but I have a Jewish freebie, I’m not talking about the nation. Everything went well from jokes, if I'm sorry about anyone !!!!