Leonid Kravchuk: “No one can be trusted!”


The first president of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk surrendered his “non-stop” with all his giblets when he informed the world of a meeting before Hitler and Stalin before the war in Lviv. "This is a document, it is not a secret ..." - said Kravchuk sensational news on air "60 minutes", which introduced into a stupor all historians, even the inveterate Russophobia. Well, you can’t lie like that! What is this talking about?


“Ah, it’s not difficult to deceive us ...”


Kravchuk apparently has a “document” from the Institute of Memory of Vyatrovich, a former employee of the Security Service of Ukraine and an ex-SUMER. They compose such “documents” there, and they lost their shores. But the Kravchuk believe ... Ah, it is not so difficult to deceive them, they are glad to deceive themselves, the classic has long said about this phenomenon of liars.

So, at one “meeting of Hitler and Stalin in the city of Lviv” Kravchuk surrendered everything acquired by the overwhelming historical the works of the Institute of Memory of Vyatrovich, from Kievan Rus of Ukraine to the Holodomor. And he made fun of himself: "You can’t trust anyone!" No need to lie, and you won’t lie.

And on the other hand, what a good fellow Kravchuk! Worthy of a standing ovation! He showed clearly how the history of Ukraine is being written today, and the latest history of the 2014 coup and the invasion of nationalist gangs in the Donbass.

"Totalitarian" lies of the West


But this is not the whole truth. This nonsense about the meeting of Hitler and Stalin in Lviv was born not from scratch, it is a consequence of the nonsense of the high historical minds of the West about the "totalitarian dictators" Hitler and Stalin, who decided to divide Europe. We saw the reflection of this highly scientific nonsense in the minds of ordinary villagers, not burdened with conscience: they are both “totalitarian”, how can they not meet, relatives. Here they are, the fruits of enlightenment from the State Department, Soros, the CIA and MI6. What is this talking about?

We somehow forget that it was the European countries that gave birth to fascism in the last century, not only in Germany, and it won all over Western Europe. Only the British monarchy with its monarchical roots and overseas colonies survived. Today, these European countries declare themselves fluffy democracies that have fallen from the collusion of “totalitarian regimes,” while all these “democracies” were abolished dictatorships. And today, such accusers and decommunisators as Bandera and Neo-Pilsud nationalist regimes are ahead of all.

Democracy is not “people's power”


The democracies of Europe gave birth to fascism at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, crowned by Hitler, who came to power democratically and spoke about the welfare of the German people, today they gave birth to Bandera and Neo-Pilsud nationalism, and they will come to both new Hitlers and Mussolini.

Democracy is a world of dictatorships in their pure form, because under the guise of "folk scenery." The people cannot rule themselves, because they are always different. Under “democracy”, a demagogue inevitably comes to power “democratically” with his retinue and demagogy about the “power of the people” - this was warned by Platonists and Aristotles, who were very critical of “democracy”. Or the clan of "deep demagogues" comes to power, as defined by US President Trump.

And then “historians” and entire institutions of memory appear that compose some kind of lie like a “totalitarian conspiracy” to justify democratic dictatorships and nationalist regimes. And in the end, Kravchuk appear, who consider this a “document”.
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  1. Same lech 12 February 2020 15: 02 New
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    Leonid Kravchuk: “No one can be trusted!”


    That's right ... you can’t be trusted in the first place.
    1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 15: 22 New
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      you can’t be trusted in the first place.


      this is not fraud, this is a trick in the understanding of the farmers.
      I don’t understand how you can be tolerant of those who surrender the tax on the war (your murder) with the Russians?

      How much can snot chew. I'm not even talking about the government. And even here on the forum. Fraternal feelings for those who give money to kill you.

      The justification of those who are not opposed to being killed by the APU. It’s okay that the svidomye wafers are sitting here, and when the locals drown for the brothers and nod at Zelensky, then at Kravchuk, they are all of them, they are not those wafers who silently grabbed requisitions for the war and trains to Donbass.

      Everyone who experiences fraternal feelings - should go to the roulette chat - and randomly chat with Ukrainians. Kovtun is no exception. In my experience. Every day I communicate with the free. There are still adequate to seek out.

      1. kot423 12 February 2020 15: 47 New
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        “I don’t understand how you can be tolerant of those who tax the war (your murder) with the Russians?”
        Are you so naive, no relatives, friends, or google banned? And you are aware that LDNR pensioners also pay this tax, and they were confronted with the fact: I have an uncle in Donetsk who goes for retirement (you need to live like that), and so he came, there are less pensions than they should be. To the question "how is it?" - the tax on the war has been withheld from you ... And that’s all - you want, die (no work), you want to go for the pension from which the svidomye write off this tax. You probably would have chosen to die, or abandon your family, having taken your relatives from there, who don’t legally legally transfer money, to a friend on a card in Rostov, and the uncle is already arriving for cash.
        1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 15: 54 New
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          Are you so naive, no relatives, friends, or google banned?


          my grandfather from Odessa, the kingdom of heaven to him. And if grandfather were told that Odessa would surrender the tax on the war with the Russians in 2014, he would not have believed 100%

          "What is it like?" - the tax on the war is withheld from you ..

          Well, what are my complaints about your grandfather from LDNR? This stalemate multiplied by age-related restrictions. I have complaints against tall peasants against Mykols from Dnepropetrovsk, Zhytomyr, for example, against Zinaids and other MILLIONS, who have approved this and hawala for 30 years.

          You probably would have chosen to die


          I would do everything in my power to leave the pigsty, in which a prerequisite for existence is the surrender of money to the war with the Russians. They levy a tax so that there is nothing to kill me with. This is if without beautiful words.

          I also despise all of their APU, which could make a choice. Each of the warriors could make their choice. Either 2000 hryvnias, or what kind of salary, or desertion instead of killing Ukrainian citizens

          And you can justify anything. If there is a desire. Even shot in the head in the ATO, and he will be acquitted by a hopeless situation
          1. Tatyana 12 February 2020 17: 56 New
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            Leonid Kravchuk: “No one can be trusted!”

            Yeah! The cat (Kravchuk) knows whose meat she ate in Belovezhskaya Pushcha!
            As you remember about it, you will startle!
            Traitors to the Soviet country, enemies of the people and American henpecked henchmen!
            The Order of Judah on each neck!
          2. Krasnoyarsk 12 February 2020 18: 44 New
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            Quote: c-Petrov
            I also despise all their APUs,

            Everything, APU is no more! They all died from your contempt! wassat
            By the way, you also took part, indirectly, in the killing of people in the Donbass. Or do you not know this? After all, are we trading with Ukraine? We trade. And we supply diesel fuel for APU tanks. Or have you nothing to do with it? So you did not demand from our government to ban the supply of oil products to Ukraine, but you demand from Ukrainian citizens that they do not pay the tax on the war. Start demanding yourself first.
            1. St Petrov 13 February 2020 12: 39 New
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              Everything, APU is no more! They all died from your contempt!


              they know their place. APU kill Ukrainians, in the direction of Russia only whine. The border guards of Ukraine and the Russians every day look at each other, draw up documents, go about their business

              By the way, you also took part, indirectly, in the killing of people in the Donbass. Or do you not know this? After all, are we trading with Ukraine? We trade.


              we trade. do not fight. Ukrainians are fighting, killing other Ukrainians. I do not like it. But Russia does not refuel tanks. Tanks are refueled by Ukrainians, instead of tractors.

              So you did not demand from our government to ban the supply of oil products to Ukraine


              What for? Because of this, Ukraine will not be left without fuel and will still do what it wants.

              and from citizens of Ukraine you demand that they do not pay tax on the war.


              so that they do not pay war tax with Russia, which (war) is not. It is always necessary to clarify this.

              Are you against this my requirement?
              1. Krasnoyarsk 13 February 2020 14: 35 New
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                quote = c. Petrov] they know their place. [/ quote]
                Of course they know - they defend, as they understand it, their homeland from separatism.
                The vast majority of them do not think about the causes of separatism. They just see the fact of the rejection of the territory of their homeland. This is not for their justification, but for understanding their position.
                And I am very sorry that LDNR does not use counter propaganda for Ukrainian propaganda. Day and night loud installations should explain to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine the reasons for which they do not want to recognize the authorities of Ukraine. And, in this regard, they want to secede from Ukraine. Day and night to tell the truth about this war and who started it.
                [quote = c. Petrov] Are you against this my demand? [/ quote]
                Of course against! You demand the impossible in advance. And besides, not from myself, my beloved, but from others! And this is nothing more than empty demagogy for - oh look what I'm right and good from all sides!
                And I have always been against demagogy.
        2. Borz 12 February 2020 16: 24 New
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          Yes, dear, many in Ukraine are wriggling from the realization of this fact (army tax), but what can people do with whom this tax is forcibly collected? Something about this is Jesuit-petty for people who do not accept Bandera, who do not believe in the squeals of Nazi propaganda about the "war with Russia." And yet, it is still our fault that at least a little, at least 1,5%, but we are forced to sponsor the shelling of Donbass, murder and destruction. Alas for us ...
          1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 16: 27 New
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            And still, it is our fault that at least a little, at least 1,5%, but we are forced to sponsor the shelling of Donbass, murder and destruction. Alas for us ...


            a lot of your guilt. a lot of. the position of compromise (close your eyes in time so that conscience was not so bitter) led to the killings.
            Russia is also to blame for the soft attitude. When the first Russian school was closed, it was necessary to pick up a diplomat for consultation. And now you have no schools left. Now you are being beaten because people who do not speak Selyuk language

            The issue must be resolved, under the carpet to drive it and pretend that nothing was not an option. And you must clean yourself. Wash the blood of banderlog. For all these 5 years. And do not spare them, they do not spare you and do not consider people. It will be necessary - they will start to beat in Kiev to instill a love of Ukraine

            Well, if you do not bury them in the ground, they will come up with new jokes for you. 1,5% seem like paradise

            1. Borz 12 February 2020 16: 52 New
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              It's like that. There was once a hope that people would not forgive the tragedy of May 2 at the Odessa House of Trade Unions. Forgiven (but not all). And then it started: monuments, mov, Russian schools, quotas for radio and TV, pressure on the courts, etc. They swallowed everything, their eyes hid. I tell you as a person living here. There are many normal people, do not believe it if they prove the opposite to you. But somehow everything is very toothless, listless. Our children in schools are forced to come on holidays in embroidered shirts, to do a “live chain” on the day of “collegiality”. My daughter never wore an embroidered shirt and received comments and prejudiced attitude.
              We still have single-family trips on May 9 to the Obelisk of fallen soldiers. This is a tribute and our civil protest.
              1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 19: 09 New
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                It's like that. There was once a hope that people would not forgive the tragedy of May 2 at the Odessa House of Trade Unions. Forgiven (but not all). And then it started: monuments, mov, Russian schools, quotas for radio and TV, pressure on the courts, etc. They swallowed everything, their eyes hid. I tell you as a person living here. There are many normal people, do not believe it if they prove the opposite to you. But somehow everything is very toothless, listless. Our children in schools are forced to come on holidays in embroidered shirts, to do a “live chain” on the day of “collegiality”. My daughter never wore an embroidered shirt and received comments and biased attitude.
                We still have single-family trips on May 9 to the Obelisk of fallen soldiers. This is a tribute and our civil protest.


                hold on, brothers. hi and be careful. And do not forget anything, our time will come, they will break the border with this artificial formation

                And these garbage should be all rewritten. Make lists starting with your high-rise building. Where Svidomo began, the Russians will finish the matter.

                Not all the same, I’m hanging on a peacemaker. We will make other sites fashionable in the new reality

      2. Sanichsan 14 February 2020 15: 38 New
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        Quote: c-Petrov
        this is not fraud, this is a trick in the understanding of the farmers.

        dear, what farmers !? belay
        the source of this "sensation" Radzinsky speaking at "Echo ..." you know what. there he authoritatively broadcast that all this sensational information was confirmed by his friend railwayman.
        Who is Radzinsky?
        Edward Stanislavovich Radzinsky (born September 23, 1936, Moscow) - Soviet and Russian writer, playwright, screenwriter and television host.

        so that the skakuasy just appeal to their idols ...
        PS
        I think "railway Radzinsky" will be a good meme wink
    2. WHAT IS 18 February 2020 21: 19 New
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      Kravchuk, you can’t trust anyone ...
  2. rocket757 12 February 2020 15: 04 New
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    Leonid Kravchuk: “No one can be trusted!”

    Yeah, yeah, he MORE!
    1. kot28.ru 12 February 2020 15: 15 New
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      He admitted late, apparently because he was not at the helm. Once again, Ukraine believed the west in 2014.
      1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 15: 30 New
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        Once again, Ukraine believed the west in 2014.


        Yes, if China fed them with handouts, they would have prayed for it. Poland would feed - they would pray to Poland. There, the main thing is not to Russian. Jokes about the "taiga union" remember? Until now, waffles dream of the EU, they carry their faces on the table, and they are servilely looking in that direction.

        Like land they sell - to anyone - but not Russian. They even raised it to the law. The sad tribe. Sad is the one who, with a smile, takes such an attitude. I am turned back by this Svidomo Shushary. I can’t eat when I hear "Ameriga Z USAM !! 1" Brothers

        The same "bros" by the end of steel, like the Poles



      2. major147 12 February 2020 16: 04 New
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        Quote: kot28.ru
        He admitted late, apparently because he was not at the helm. Once again, Ukraine believed the west in 2014.

        And the Russian leadership also believed the West then. The president told how Russia then "threw our European partners."
      3. rocket757 12 February 2020 17: 57 New
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        Somehow their west, in the person of itself, itself, breaks off, even ceases to feed with strong promises.
      4. Nyrobsky 12 February 2020 19: 30 New
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        Quote: kot28.ru
        He admitted late, apparently because he was not at the helm. Once again, Ukraine believed the west in 2014.

        Yeah. A naive Nanai boy, Lenya Kravchuk and a deceived tribe of dill, who believe in everything that lacks common sense.
      5. WHAT IS 18 February 2020 21: 20 New
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        Nowadays, not only officials, no one has faith.
    2. major147 12 February 2020 16: 11 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Leonid Kravchuk: “No one can be trusted!”

      Yeah, yeah, he MORE!

      1. rocket757 12 February 2020 17: 58 New
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        Well, yes, try Muller, don’t believe .... there was a convincing shot.
      2. iouris 13 February 2020 13: 00 New
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        Kravchuk is Muller!
  3. knn54 12 February 2020 15: 08 New
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    "Democracy is not the power of the majority, but the protection of the minority."
    A. Camus.
    1. Arlen 12 February 2020 15: 20 New
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      "Democracy under capitalism is capitalist democracy, the democracy of the exploiting minority, resting on the restriction of the rights of the exploited majority and directed against this majority."
      I.V. Stalin
      1. iouris 14 February 2020 00: 09 New
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        "Democracy, as Comrade Roosevelt explained to us, is the power of the American people!" (I.V. Stalin)
    2. Puzoter 12 February 2020 15: 48 New
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      Enchanting nonsense.
  4. Arlen 12 February 2020 15: 09 New
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    Politicians like Kravchuk, Humpback, Ebn can not be trusted at all. So deceive how to do nothing.
    1. major147 12 February 2020 16: 05 New
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      Quote: Arlen
      Politicians like Kravchuk, Humpback, Ebn can not be trusted at all. So deceive how to do nothing.

      This is already tested on yourself!
    2. Nike 12 February 2020 17: 14 New
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      Those have already left the arena, and which of those who are in the arena?
  5. prior 12 February 2020 15: 13 New
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    Kravchuk made a slip of the tongue, in fact, Hitler met with Taras Bulba in Lviv.
    1. AK1972 12 February 2020 15: 28 New
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      Quote: prior
      Kravchuk made a slip of the tongue, in fact, Hitler met with Taras Bulba in Lviv.

      And another Taras — Shevchenko — shorthand the negotiations, moreover, immediately in verse, on a nightingale.
    2. 210ox 12 February 2020 15: 29 New
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      That is why goodies must meet with the demoniac? By the way, didn’t they decommunize Taras into the VNA? what
      1. major147 12 February 2020 16: 07 New
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        Quote: 210ox
        Didn’t Taras decommunize?

        He was repainted in the "yellow-blocking"!
    3. Lipchanin 12 February 2020 15: 46 New
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      Quote: prior
      Kravchuk made a slip of the tongue, in fact, Hitler met with Taras Bulba in Lviv.

      The translator was Taras Shevchenko
  6. Svarog 12 February 2020 15: 16 New
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    Democracy is a world of dictatorships in their pure form, because under the guise of "folk scenery." The people cannot rule themselves, because they are always different. Under “democracy”, a demagogue inevitably comes to power “democratically” with his retinue and demagogy about the “power of the people” - this was warned by the Platonists and Aristotles, who were very critical of “democracy”. Or the clan of "deep demagogues comes to power

    How exactly said ..
    And then “historians” and entire institutions of memory appear that compose some kind of lie like a “totalitarian conspiracy” to justify democratic dictatorships and nationalist regimes. And in the end, Kravchuk appear, who consider this a “document”.

    Yeltsin centers, Solzhenitsyn .. that's right ..
    Socialism is the only right decision and all these figures, including ours, betrayed or sold the idea for the sake of chewing gum and jeans ..
    1. Lamata 12 February 2020 16: 03 New
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      Yes, it popped some democrats, liberals, strange Internet Marxists. Vote for the new socialism)))))
    2. major147 12 February 2020 16: 08 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      betrayed or sold the idea for the sake of chewing gum and jeans ..

      Chewing gum and jeans may well exist under socialism ....
      1. Lamata 12 February 2020 18: 43 New
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        and they were. for example in rk there was chewing gum igryz - anti-place)))
      2. ANB
        ANB 12 February 2020 18: 47 New
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        And they existed quite for themselves. Personally, I bought in the guest room for 100r.
        Then I thought for a long time why they were necessary for me, since uniform trousers were more convenient. Especially in winter fellow
  7. Eug
    Eug 12 February 2020 15: 19 New
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    We need to talk more about the role of "democratic", in particular arrogant-Saka countries in the formation of fascism. In this regard, I never tire of admiring the book of N. Starikov, "Who made Hitler attack Stalin."
  8. Dmitry Potapov 12 February 2020 15: 19 New
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    "Can I see the prosecutor? Can you where we have the prosecutor? In the third chamber, where Napoleon used to lie!"
    1. Lipchanin 12 February 2020 15: 48 New
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      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      "Can I see the prosecutor? Can you where we have the prosecutor? In the third chamber, where Napoleon used to lie!"

      Yes, these though they sincerely consider themselves so
      This one knows that he’s lying, but he’s lying anyway
  9. Alexga 12 February 2020 15: 19 New
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    Well no! Everything is simpler, Kravchuk is an agent of GDP, which is engaged in discrediting Ukraine. laughing
  10. Amateur 12 February 2020 15: 29 New
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    Having provided in November 1990 to the newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda a photocopy of this document with my comments {830}, I, of course, understood the low probability of such a meeting. (The pact that changed the course of history
    Nadzhafov Vladimir Huseynovich

    “To the German Ambassador to the USSR, Count Werner von der Schulenburg. Outgoing No. 1037 of October 11, 1939. I ask you to finally consider the meeting time on October 17, 1939. My train will arrive at the meeting place at 15. The NKVD bodies took all measures for the safety of the planned event. Sincerely, I. Stalin. ”
    And then you can probably cite the very case in Lviv, which is mentioned, in particular, in the book of Edward Radzinsky about Stalin. So, the writer and playwright refers in his narrative to the story of a friend of the railway veteran,

    So L.D. Kravchuk did not refer to all sorts of "memories", but to the "Komsomolka" and E. Radzinsky. So lie and pledge I.V.S. started in Russia and long before 2020
  11. igorlvov 12 February 2020 15: 38 New
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    remember remember ...

    1. St Petrov 12 February 2020 15: 43 New
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      Ukraine firmly embarked on the path of independence


      the clown to be there for the norm. and in some places - promotes career growth
    2. AK1972 12 February 2020 15: 49 New
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      This proclamation must be hanged at the Yeltsin Center, and its author next to it.
  12. Lamata 12 February 2020 16: 02 New
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    Does he believe in himself? if not, then ask a psychiatrist !!!
  13. beeper 12 February 2020 16: 04 New
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    Only the British monarchy with its monarchical roots and overseas colonies survived.

    And even then, the British monarchy and the WB very much fluctuated in their sympathies for fascism!
    Pictures of fascistly zigging young Princess Elizabeth and her relatives are on the Web!
    Winston Churchill and his supporters antifascist position determined the further anti-Nazi actions of the WB government.
    In the “most democratic” USA, the fascist component in American society was also very strong. And only with the connivance (although the main force of the fleet, the aircraft carriers, nevertheless, removed from the attack) the Japanese attack on Hawaiian Pearl Bay on December 7, 1941, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his supporters managed to marginalize this pro-fascist trend in American society (although American industrialists including the famous car manufacturer Henry Ford and the Bush bankers, continued to do business with the Nazis until the Allied landings in Normandy in the summer of 1944!)!
  14. smaug78 12 February 2020 16: 07 New
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    Hitler, democratically come to power
    Author, at least you have opened a history textbook, or you are lying like Goebels.
    1. Lamata 12 February 2020 18: 45 New
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      please read joachim fest - the most complete biography of Hitler. it describes how he came to power
  15. Jarserge 12 February 2020 16: 13 New
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    Kravchuk cannot be trusted for a long time, even when he was born
  16. Undecim 12 February 2020 17: 54 New
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    "No one can be trusted!"
    Very correct thought. Agitpropovets Kamenev need to frame it and hang it on the wall.
    Ukrainian historians have nothing to do with the myth of the meeting of Hitler and Stalin in Lviv.
    For the first time about this meeting in 1990 in Komsomolskaya Pravda, the Soviet historian Nadzhafov wrote, referring to a certain declassified letter from Hoover. Kravchuk also referred to this publication.
    Then the writer Radzinsky in his book "Stalin" gave this myth "solidity."
    So this fake is exactly thirty years old.
    Kravchuk thoughtlessly repeated the fabrication of the scribbler, and the scribe Kamenev thoughtlessly inflated this blunder.
  17. Sergey Averchenkov 12 February 2020 18: 21 New
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    Quote: Borz
    It's like that. There was once a hope that people would not forgive the tragedy of May 2 at the Odessa House of Trade Unions. Forgiven (but not all). And then it started: monuments, mov, Russian schools, quotas for radio and TV, pressure on the courts, etc. They swallowed everything, their eyes hid. I tell you as a person living here. There are many normal people, do not believe it if they prove the opposite to you. But somehow everything is very toothless, listless. Our children in schools are forced to come on holidays in embroidered shirts, to do a “live chain” on the day of “collegiality”. My daughter never wore an embroidered shirt and received comments and prejudiced attitude.
    We still have single-family trips on May 9 to the Obelisk of fallen soldiers. This is a tribute and our civil protest.

    Well, you are so ... Limpless or what? When I found out about the Donbass I just packed up and went ... Despite the cries of my wife I went.
    I don’t understand why I pulled from Krasnoyarsk, and you were both sitting on your ass. And now my son is there ... I can’t understand you ...
  18. Den717 12 February 2020 19: 15 New
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    In fact, it is high time to conduct an investigation into the personal participation of all Ukrainian presidents in the resuscitation and strengthening of the Bandera movement. After all, nationalism is not mold, in itself in the country, so many have lost not so long ago war, does not flourish. Someone protected him, signed laws that were convenient for the Natsiks, did not respond in a timely manner to the manifestations of their ideology. Today they make a helpless gesture, they say they don’t understand why it all happened. But each of them personally contributed to the collapse of the state.
    European democracies gave birth to fascism in the early twentieth century

    Today, in the "Council on Foreign Relations" in the United States there is the concept of "producing consent" - the scientifically substantiated massive use of the media as a tool for managing public opinion, which will radically turn democratic systems stronger than any revolution. It is the democratic system that is most vulnerable to external influences, to simplify the ability of financial and industrial groups to promote their interests in the markets, by influencing the legitimacy of the ruling elites. Actually, for the sake of this, the United States is preoccupied with promoting "democracy" wherever it can reach with its money. Dosed authoritarianism in this case may be a certain protection against external influences. So democracies do not give birth to fascism, they are used by the Anglo-Saxons to gain world domination, and fascism is their by-product of the auxiliary.
  19. Oyo Sarkazmi 12 February 2020 19: 31 New
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    That is, before the war, in Poland, Hitler and Stalin met. Did the President of Poland also sit at the table? And did not mind the impending liquidation of Poland.
    1. Lamata 12 February 2020 20: 33 New
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      He is, a chaldean there at the meeting was.
  20. Nikolai Korovin 12 February 2020 19: 53 New
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    The author bashfully holds back who financed the German war industry and widely credited Germany as a whole after Hitler came to power.
  21. itarnmag 12 February 2020 20: 04 New
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    And Kravchuk cannot be trusted the first
  22. Lamata 12 February 2020 20: 31 New
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    Shushkevich looks like this in the photo, oh .. surprised.
  23. Astra wild 12 February 2020 21: 11 New
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    "Nobody can be trusted, neither can I," said Kravchuk
  24. smaug78 13 February 2020 08: 54 New
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    Quote: Lamata
    please read joachim fest - the most complete biography of Hitler. it describes how he came to power

    It's time for amazing stories laughing
  25. Retvizan 8 13 February 2020 13: 08 New
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    Kravchuk, he made himself such a dolphin!
    At the same time, once again demonstrated the level of ruling political elites on Ukro-in.)))
  26. sv-georgij 14 February 2020 11: 40 New
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    It’s like in a joke. The meeting, of course, was not secret, but official, and not in the year 39, but in the year 45. And not in Lviv, but in Yalta. And not with Hitler, but with Churchill and Roosevelt. And the conversation was not about the start of the war, but about its end, and after the military arrangement of the world.
    The most interesting thing is that Kravchuk served as secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU of Ukraine on ideology.
  27. nikolaj1703 14 February 2020 20: 07 New
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    Time to betray ...
  28. NF68 16 February 2020 16: 01 New
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    Why shouldn’t you believe it? -Casseroleheads as they were pan-panheads, they will remain so, with hell knows what the consequences are, even the devil knows how many years.