Gazprom spoke about the timing of the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline

The launch of the Russian Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of Gazprom, released by investor day.

The Russian company Gazprom announced the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline at the end of this year. Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak said the same, who said that the pipeline would be completed despite the pressure of some countries, in particular the USA.

Gazprom itself does not talk about the methods and methods of completing the pipeline; earlier, the operator of the Nord Stream 2 company has denied information about sending requests to the Danish authorities to amend the permission to build the pipeline so that it can be completed, despite US sanctions .

It was alleged that gas pipeline builders were looking for the possibility of building a gas pipeline using tandems - anchor pipe-laying barges in conjunction with vessels equipped with a dynamic positioning system (anchor-less), which is prohibited by the terms of the agreement.

Most likely, the remaining kilometers of the gas pipeline will be laid by the Akademik Chersky crane-assembly and installation pipe-laying vessel, which recently left Nakhodka and is heading for the Baltic Sea. This vessel belongs to Gazprom and in all respects meets the conditions for laying the pipeline.

Last year, Energy Minister Alexander Novak announced that Academician Chersky was the only vessel capable of completing pipe laying for the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. He said that to start work he needed additional preparation, which would take some time.

As previously reported, due to US sanctions, the Swiss company Allseas withdrew its vessels from the pipeline construction area, thereby halting construction. To date, it remains to lay no more than 130 km of pipes along the bottom of the Baltic Sea.

Comments

[Theodore]

Well, right! Less know - more "sensational" in their newspapers!

[Thrifty]

FEODOR - taking into account that the main part about the ship's cruise for the completion of the pipe is laid out "for all to see", you can not expect sensations!

[cniza]

Why? , in our time, everything can be and the ship can go in the wrong place ...

[antivirus]

for the completion of the pipe is laid out "for all to see", you can not expect sensations!

in other words - a small spoon is shown to the whole world ---- the incredible popularity of a small spoon
"chasers! waiting for cons
The main relations with the outskirts are the highway and the air + shipbuilding, + villages \ households + labor migration.
and raw materials are a trifle in a spoon (to determine the level of competencies)

[businessv]

Quote: antivirus

in other words - a small spoon is shown to the whole world ---- the incredible popularity of a small spoon
"chasers! waiting for cons

Colleague, try next time not so chaotically express your thoughts please!

[antivirus]

I am writing to you, and I answer all the minusers for spoons (approx 3-5 months already). FUNNY.
according to Pavlov, the reflex is developed - I trained him to the word "spoon"
ON ESSENCE- it is possible to supply raw materials to Europe and the world, but at least return to the level of production of the whole complex of Russian machine-building structures (2 and 3 repartitions) -NADO.
It is easier to do this on the former USSR.
Therefore, linking (like the United States and China) raw materials is nevertheless closer and cheaper with our export to the outskirts. Luke must be in our team.
To crush them in all azimuths for gas-oil + access to the Russian market (we need from Bandera) NO FRIENDSHIP WITH BROTHERS.
- and also: the censor (?) Terskiy (I don't know for sure) deleted my about "shoulder straps and points - the site started playing war. His right."

[Piramidon]

Quote: antivirus

according to Pavlov, the reflex is developed - I trained him to the word "spoon"

Yes, as much as you like, train yourself personally, but likening all users of the site to "Pavlov's dogs" is at least incorrect. Why should people remember what your "spoons" are? Especially those who read your post for the first time. Very similar to some kind of nonsense.

[antivirus]

You are right - it's stupid to argue about spoons, it's strange that a childish adage so hooked on "heroes-patriots" --- AND THE WHOLE 5 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS WASN'T BUILD THE GDP FOR SOMEONE WANTED (AND 300 PIECES SU 77 (??) DIDN'T CREATE) - only for a little spoon.
I confirm my position - as the authorities consider --- they are building the state-army + navy (for a small spoon)
a friend had a daughter about 10 years ago, as she grew older, she said such a thing and react like that.
this is 146% of my hype on delirium (whose?).
you can ban SMarshak everything, and Nosov

when that "in the skull" drove objectionable, I will tease (according to my mood) the public.
and funny in epaulettes and points - such was the life of the site authors in the 70s-80s.
philosophy - we should be glad that the state is alive and we (with the Russian literary language and "in the p.m." spoons ")

[businessv]

Quote: antivirus

It is possible to supply raw materials to Europe and around the world, but at least return to the level of production of the whole complex of machine-building in Russia (2 and 3 repartitions) -NADO.

Well, only a very narrow-minded person can argue with this! I just think that our government will not agree with us, they don’t need it! Above them here, but does not drip over their children in far abroad countries, so their life was a success!

[Arthur 85]

Right. And then they chat like women in the market. Sometimes you open the news and grab your head: why, cretins / enemies of the people, do you publish this? Moreover, in such a context that it even causes me some irritation, and uncle Vasya will cause fierce hatred in a locksmith ...

[Victor_B]

More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
Lots and lots!
They just got a taste.
Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The contract is drawn up competently or so

as always .... so

[Terenin]

Pete
If there would be

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The contract is drawn up competently

that would not be

Quote: Pete Mitchell

runaway and not completed work

Here, the purest - sloppiness!

[Prisoner]

Well, what to expect from "effective" (although it would be more accurate to be defective) managers and thieves majors-lawyers?

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

If there would be
Quote: Pete Mitchell
The contract is drawn up competently
that would not be
Quote: Pete Mitchell
runaway and not completed work

Here, the purest - sloppiness!

You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.
Under what conditions would you agree to build a gas pipeline, knowing that the United States can turn on sanctions against you at any time?
This will be the answer to all your perplexities.

[Terenin]

Quote: Edik

Quote: Terenin

If there would be
Quote: Pete Mitchell
The contract is drawn up competently
that would not be
Quote: Pete Mitchell
runaway and not completed work

Here, the purest - sloppiness!

You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.
Under what conditions would you agree to build a gas pipeline, knowing that the United States can turn on sanctions against you at any time?
This will be the answer to all your perplexities.

Edik, let them think about the Swiss ... (e.g. Africans)
I, about our "intellectuals" in the government ...

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

Edik, let them think about the Swiss ... (for example, Africans)

And the casket just opens.
The Swiss, if they are crazy, prescribed in the contract that in the case of US sanctions, they just wash their hands!
In principle, you can thank them for the work done, it remains only 160 km to finish.

Quote: Terenin

I, about our "intellectuals" in the government ...

No, you're still for the contract!
A contract concluded, Gazprom and porters.

[Terenin]

Quote: Edik

No, you're still for the contract!
A contract concluded, Gazprom and porters.

Yeah .
As the movie hero B. Shcherbakov said: "You argue correctly, but on the scale of ... a foreman."
Edik, this Gazprom with its "analysts" was given to you ...
I’m talking about the role of the shortsightedness of the Government of Russia (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... who would have thought?) in the long disruption of the construction of SP-2. And that’s it.

[Edik]

Quote: Terenin

I’m talking about the role of the shortsightedness of the Russian Government (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... who would have thought?) In the long disruption of the construction of SP-2. And that’s it.

And so it’s you for the Crimea ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Edik

Quote: Terenin

I’m talking about the role of the shortsightedness of the Russian Government (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... who would have thought?) In the long disruption of the construction of SP-2. And that’s it.

And so it’s you for the Crimea ...

All the best.

[Edik]

Gennady, take an interest in these vessels!
They would have stood up to us very dearly and not when they hadn’t paid off! But anyway, ours had already insured themselves against this case by buying Academician Chersky.

[boss]

why do we put ourselves in the place of the Swiss ?!
they had to do the work according to the contract.
for money.
for very good money.
and we should not even be closely worried about their fears, phobias, etc.
or fines.
fines covering losses.
it is a commercial enterprise, there are investors, banks and their investors.
and yes, there are huge losses arising from unfulfilled work.
what is there to rassusolit then?
the fact that the Swiss did not calculate possible political or any other risks are the problems of the Swiss, and if the work was insured, then the insurers.

[anzar]

You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.

Which ones? Gazprom? After all, he is also registered there. Therefore, as the Swiss and the Swiss ...)))

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Edik

You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.

not worth it ... they didn’t lay it for thanks !!!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

the interval is composed correctly or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

В any The contract has a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of the contract.
Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

[210ox]

Judging by how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

Judging by how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.

Gets in the courts.
After the verdict "Ukraine is a poor country and therefore Gazprom owes it", no lawyer can resist

[Pereira]

Judging by the results, absolutely anyone can work as a lawyer in Gazprom. This is not everyone will be taken to the rig.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pereira

Judging by the results, absolutely anyone can work as a lawyer in Gazprom. This is not everyone will be taken to the rig.

Check out my post a little higher about the courts

[Pereira]

Why did I always know this about the love of bourgeois courts for Russia, but there are no lawyers? Apparently, I'm more professional.

[210ox]

Well, then, judging by your words, the completion of SP2 by Gazprom alone raises very serious concerns.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: 210ox

Well, then, judging by your words, the completion of SP2 by Gazprom alone raises very serious concerns.

Yes. I think so too.
Sticks in the wheels just started to insert. The closer the ending is, the more these sticks will be and they will be thicker
I do not exclude direct sabotage against our pipe layer

[Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations]

I do not exclude direct sabotage against our pipe layer

Exactly! I don’t think it will be combat swimmers, but all sorts of green ones, especially Danish ones!

[boss]

You forgot to specify, a mentally retarded lawyer.
When concluding contracts, the parties themselves choose a court where they will consider mutual claims.
The choice of the Stockholm arbitration tribunal, which makes deliberately unfair or biased decisions, is precisely a matter of competence for Gazprom lawyers.
it turns out that the lawyers in the RF Ministry of Defense are better; they received both money and fines and penalties for undelivered Mistrals, as nice ones.
and the Stockholm shameful decision is the direct fault of the lawyers, the results of their incompetence, and the lack of analytical and legal departments.
and now the FSE is to blame, but not them!

[kapitan92]

Quote: patron

The choice of the Stockholm arbitration tribunal, which makes deliberately unfair or biased decisions, is precisely a matter of competence for Gazprom lawyers.

There is its own national arbitration, which considers the disputes of companies from their country. There are several arbitration institutes in which the geography of disputes is much wider. These are recognized world arbitration institutions such as the London International Arbitration Court (LCIA), the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce (SCC Institute), and the International Arbitration Court of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC).
LCIA (London)
SCC (Stockholm)
ICC (Paris)
Also, to resolve disputes with contractors from certain regions or for other reasons, you can choose slightly less well-known, but no less effective arbitration institutions, which can be distinguished by region:
American-Australian - American Arbitration Association (AAA);
Asian - China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC); Japan Commercial Arbitration Association (JCAA); Hong Kong International Arbitration Center (HKIAC); Singapore Center for International Arbitration (SIAC). May be attractive to Russian companies located in Siberia and the Far East;
European - German Arbitration Institute (DIS); Chamber of Commerce in Geneva (CCIG); Chamber of Commerce in Zurich (ZNK); International Arbitration Court of the Federal Chamber of Economics of Austria (WKO); Belgian Center for Reconciliation and Arbitration (CEPANI); Netherlands Arbitration Institute (NAI), etc. The listed arbitration centers can be selected to resolve disputes with European companies;
Stockholm arbitration is the most popular arbitration among Russian companies. This is due to the agreement concluded in 1970 between the USSR and the USA ("Optional Arbitration Clause of 1977"), according to which all disputes between organizations from these countries were referred for resolution to this institution. SCC has not lost its leading position for Russian companies at present. The dispute resolution process is as transparent as in London, but slightly less expensive, which is undoubtedly an advantage.
The court's decision in favor of the outskirts is clearly biased, politicized, which does not do him credit and "tarnishes" his reputation.
Do you think that the decision on this issue in London or Paris would be different?

[Piramidon]

Quote: patron

When concluding contracts, the parties themselves choose a court where they will consider mutual claims.

Do you think that the Swiss Allseas would agree to conclude a contract subject to arbitration in some Basmanny court in Moscow?

[Pete mitchell]

Gentlemen, I agree with everyone and at the same time I really want Sergey, Lipchanin to be right

Quote: Lipchanin

Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

We have to hope for the best, although events suggest that

Quote: 210ox

how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

and at the same time I really want Sergey, Lipchanin to be right

Thank you

[Pete mitchell]

Sergei, I always want to believe in the best, but as I said: I agree with my colleagues, I hope we are mistaken. It cannot be that decent lawyers do not stand behind such a stream of money. I’m forgiven a lot at work, but God forbid to step aside from standard actions and take a chance on your own initiative - it’s not enough

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

It cannot be that decent lawyers do not stand behind such a stream of money

Even the most lawyers cannot resist the state.
And it was the state that stood up against the construction.
We will not discount courts. As they judge, we have already seen.
So, there are already few that depend on lawyers.
They did their job, made a contract, But how the court will turn everything around, not one lawyer will not say

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Lipchanin

it was the state that stood up against construction

It is certainly impossible to play gambling with the State, but it is time for the Russian Federation to remember how to defend its interests

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

It is certainly impossible to play gambling with the State, but it is time for the Russian Federation to remember how to defend its interests

Yes, the Russian Federation cannot influence these courts.
They are already bought by the mattress.
Another farce will begin soon. Boeing trial
And the result is predictable

[Pete mitchell]

We'll have to chop without assistants.

Quote: Lipchanin

Another farce will begin soon. Boeing trial

To tell you the truth, I don’t quite understand which side of the Russian Federation is in this matter. The evidence presented does not look confident, it’s more about verbal casuistry. Now the question of closing the airspace in the Rostov zone is very popular with the bourgeoisie, but they have not tried to read the restrictions .. I think that Clintonsha asked the general line for this show / court back in '14: 777 was shot down by a Russian rocket. She told the truth - yes; she said nonsense - yes .., the public is not used to delving into

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The evidence presented does not look confident

Yes, they do not need any evidence. From the word at all. Everything has already been decided and scheduled. The court is needed only to oust the true culprit.
If Orkains were out of business, and Russia was to blame, the Americans would have posted their evidence that "We have them, but we will not show them to you."

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Lipchanin

Everything is already decided and scheduled.

We are constantly returning to the discussion about the passivity of the position of the Russian Federation. Perhaps you need to get the candelabra and apply as directed ...

[businessv]

Quote: Lipchanin

And it was the state that stood up against the construction.

Quite right, and a hostile state with all its "grunts", which makes the task of completing the gas pipeline very difficult, not only technically, because one of the reasons for the sanctions is also money! Indeed, during this time delayed before the launch of the Stream, the minke whales will be able to suck in a lot of their own, quite expensive oil and gas product to old Europe, and we, on the contrary, will lose a lot of profit!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: businessv

minke whales will be able to suck in an old woman in Europe a lot of her, quite expensive oil and gas product,

That's why the Germans did not bend to the last
I really don’t know what they are and how now

[doodlez]

And it was the state that stood up against the construction. So you need to defend yourself and not at random. Gazprom What did the states know only yesterday? Where is the domestic pipe-laying machine? What did these managers think.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: doodlez

So you need to defend yourself and not at random

And where did you get the idea that Gazprom acted at random?

Where is the domestic pipe-laying machine?

Goes to work

What did these managers think.

It looks like you were the only one who thought for the whole "Gazprom"
Can one replace everyone there?
In saving will

[doodlez]

And where did you get the idea that Gazprom acted at random? From the facts of their activities bulgaria ukraine sp 2
Going to the place of work Have you watched the ship? And why was the ship not ready yesterday? Hunt for it .......... It looks like you were the only one thinking for the whole "Gazprom"
Can one replace everyone there?
For the sake of saving, you will appoint you will find out. P. With maybe the hare will be naive and kind, the West will not appreciate it.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

In any contract, there is a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of a contract.

as well as force majeure situation

Quote: Lipchanin

Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

Quote: Lipchanin

Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

Well, judging by some representatives of the government or the governor’s corps, I can quite allow this

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Barmaleyka

as well as force majeure situation

Quote

In any contract, there is a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of a contract.

It is about the unilateral termination of work
Force majeure is prescribed in a separate line

Well, judging by some representatives of the government or the governor’s corps, I can quite allow this

I will quote again

Do not think that in Gazprom sit "yellow-mouth" graduates of law schools

Where is there even a word about "some representatives of the government or the governor's corps"?

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

It is about the unilateral termination of work
Force majeure is prescribed in a separate line

so it will be force majeure

Quote: Lipchanin

Where is there even a word about "some representatives of the government or the governor's corps"?

Do you think that in state corporations it is different?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Barmaleyka

so it will be force majeure

The threat of sanctions?
And everywhere, force majeure is considered a hurricane, tornado, earthquake. In general, that does not depend on the person.
Are sanctions related to natural disasters?

Do you think that in state corporations it is different?

I believe that the best of the best are being recruited to such an organization.
They are allowed money to choose just such
There is a competition for admission more than in any prestigious university

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

Are sanctions related to natural disasters?

where did you get that force majeure is only natural disasters ?!

Quote: Lipchanin

And everywhere force majeure is considered a hurricane, tornado, earthquake

everywhere it is only with you
an unpredictable event, independent of the will of the parties involved in the transaction, but leading to the inability to fulfill contractual obligations
it is written about the impossibility to fulfill obligations FOR THE TIME of the action of such forces, that is, as soon as the mattresses refuse sanction, they will immediately continue

Quote: Lipchanin

I believe that the best of the best are being recruited to such an organization.

you think so

Quote: Lipchanin

There is a competition for admission more than in any prestigious university

are you reassuring yourself
give you examples from our not so distant past with crap and other things?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Barmaleyka

independent of the will of the parties involved in the transaction, but leading to the impossibility of fulfilling contractual obligations

Is sanction an impossibility?
Strange, but we live under sanctions and nothing, alive

you think so

Anyone thinks so normal employer.
However, if you want to ruin your company, dial from the street

are you reassuring yourself

I know that for sure
Here is an elementary logic. Bad staff, bad work, no profit.
They pay crazy money to players, but they save on staff? Take anyone to work?
Well, you probably do that

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

Strange, but we live under sanctions and nothing, alive

our winter is considered a natural disaster for europe so relax

Quote: Lipchanin

I know that for sure

do you work there

Quote: Lipchanin

Here is an elementary logic. Bad staff, bad work, no profit.

the profit will be a lard more a lard less this is a trifle with those volumes

Quote: Lipchanin

They pay crazy money to players, but they save on staff?

these are show-offs and nothing else

Quote: Lipchanin

Well, you probably do that

Will you forgive who you work for and what is your experience in managing work?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Barmaleyka

our winter is considered a natural disaster for europe so relax

That's right, it does not depend on a person.
Sanctions also do not depend on a person?
You can’t fight winter.
With sanctions too?

do you work there

Friends work in branches and tell how difficult it is to get a job and what are the requirements

the profit will be a lard more a lard less this is a trifle with those volumes

Is your head okay?
I have nothing to talk about with you.
Since you consider sanctions an unstoppable force.
Since you think that the largest company signing international contracts is gaining lawyers from the street.
Since you think that for the state company BILLION is not money.
You are either stupid or an ordinary troll.
I have no desire to talk with such a person

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

how hard it is to get a job and what are the requirements

well this is an argument, it is indisputable

Quote: Lipchanin

I have no desire to talk with such a person

according to your disputes, the CTO troll is very visible
and in the situation with VTB sberbank and gazprёm, the level of legal experts is very clearly visible, by the way, do not specify the figures for the losses of these three organizations over the past five years in litigation in the west?

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is sanction an impossibility?

don’t completely swear a vision, if, as a result of sanctions, the company may go bankrupt, then what impossibility

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Lipchanin

Is sanction an impossibility?

What penalty did France pay for the Mistals?

[Edik]

Quote: Barmaleyka

What penalty did France pay for the Mistals?

The French paid 1,12 billion euros.

[Barmaleyka]

you see the difference between the return for outstanding volumes and the penalty see ?!

[Edik]

Quote: Barmaleyka

you see the difference between the return for outstanding volumes and the penalty see ?!

I see what? What question, such an answer.

[Barmaleyka]

so the French did not pay the penalty, they returned the money for what they did not

[Edik]

Quote: Barmaleyka

so the French did not pay the penalty, they returned the money for what they did not

No sir, they just paid the penalty.

[Barmaleyka]

Penalty (fine, penalty) - the amount of money specified by law or by the contract that the debtor is obligated to pay to the creditor in case of default or improper performance of obligations

for Mistral there were no fines returned OUR money
800 llamas of payment and another plus for carrying out the experimental work France did not pay ANY FINE

[Edik]

Quote: Barmaleyka

800 llamas of payment and another plus for carrying out the experimental work France did not pay ANY FINE

No sir, this is exactly what you wrote:

Quote: Barmaleyka

Penalty (fine, penalty) - the amount of money determined by law or contract that the debtor is obligated to pay to the creditor in case of default or improper performance of obligations

Without any advances, pure penalty!
As the media present, this is a politicus.

[Barmaleyka]

it’s not fines; it’s a refund; not fulfilled volumes, plus we didn’t receive

[Edik]

Quote: Barmaleyka

it’s not fines; it’s a refund; not fulfilled volumes, plus we didn’t receive

No sir, this is exactly the penalty for breaking the contract!

[Barmaleyka]

Apparently you don’t understand what you are writing about, you paid in advance for making a fur coat, you didn’t make a fur coat for any reason, and you received a refund of any FINE paid in advance, they returned the ADVANCE PAYMENT and by the way not 1.2 lard, but less than one lard, in any case, according to the statement of the French

[Edik]

Vladimir, was wrong, sorry!

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Edik

was wrong, sorry!

is

[major147]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

There was information that the situation with sanctions was included in the contract as "force majeure".

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: major147

sanctions were included in the contract as "force majeure".

Then I take off my hat to the lawyers of Gazprom’s counterparties

[cniza]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

Everyone will write off for force majeure and no one will be able to return anything unless the contract says about possible US actions, which is unlikely ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

It depends on what is considered force majeure, if it is specified in the contract - the ship's flooding, tsunami, diarrhea for the entire crew, etc. that is, spontaneously arisen circumstances of force majeure. Immediately, a man-made problem appeared under pressure from a third party, incl. it is possible that companies that were forced to interrupt the performance of work under the contract will be able to file a claim against this "third party" themselves for compensation for lost profits and compensation for damage paid in the form of a fine and forfeit for outstanding work. Only all this time, and not at all fast.

[BARKAS]

In the contract, this situation with sanctions was stipulated in advance as force majeure and no one compensates anyone.

[antivirus]

even without fingers - if only Washington was not against it, for the time being. time is running out.
They distribute candy wrappers for raw materials around the world

[Observer2014]

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
Lots and lots!
They just got a taste.
Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.

Viktor Petrovich. That's all kind of grown-up people. How can you even start a grandiose project knowing that under the sanction sight without your pipe layers? And the second sanctioners, so to speak Didn’t find anything better how to spoil the finish line? And eat a fish. And come back for dinner. You can feel the multi-way strategist.?

[Lexus]

"Fabulous" with these "streams", like a drug addict / alcoholic who, in order to "throw himself in," drives with junk stolen from his relatives through pawnshops, waiting for some huckster to "fit", and upon returning home "asks for understanding." Absolutely all results are more than logical.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor_B

Denmark essentially lured the track into its waters, and Gazprom could go around

Something here, not everything looks perfect, somewhere there is some kind of dirty trick.

[Arthur 85]

Yes, I also thought why these Danish (censorship) were taking time, and I suspected (censorship). Well, here it is.

[Thrifty]

So what about the compensation for the work that was not completed by the workers - is it written down even in the contract? Or, as always, the hope for "maybe" turned out to be stronger than common sense?

[Lamata]

Stopudovo on force majeure porters will refer. And Comrade Miller, how will the next get a bonus, or whatever they will do to him.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lamata

Stopudovo on force majeure porters will refer

They can refer at least to anyone.
This "force majeure" must be proved

[Lamata]

Believe me, the lawyers are cunning there, and another very important question is which court will consider the lawsuit and whose law will be applicable.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lamata

which court will consider the lawsuit and whose law will be applicable.

Do not go to the grandmother, not in our favor

[Lamata]

I hope that what is specified in the agreement is what kind of "independent" arbitration.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lamata

I hope that what is specified in the agreement is what kind of "independent" arbitration

Yes, what to guess. All the same, no one has ever seen and will not see the agreement.
We will look in court. If he certainly will

[Lord of the Sith]

Compensation afterwards, after completion of construction.

[Sadam]

what you are discussing is not money, it is surrender))). The key word is given to me - the end of construction. that's where the interesting game lies ahead. recent sanctions have updated not only builders but users. Trump in the fall re-election - demonstrative action may take place. some strange movement in the Reichstag with the future Kansler ....

[Lord of the Sith]

Are you sure you speak Russian? As if a slurred stream of subconscious))

[Lipchanin]

Do you even understand what you said?

[major147]

Quote: Sadam

recent sanctions have updated not only builders but users

These sanctions are not about anything. Gas came to the hub in Baumgarten and everything, but who specifically received the molecules, cannot be technically determined

[Sadam]

Of course I do not pretend. it's just my thoughts out loud. over the same sanctions for contractors, neighing here for half a year no one believed and suddenly everything fell upon you when 90% paved .... underestimating the enemy and overestimating friends is stupid

[major147]

Quote: Sadam

Of course I do not pretend. it's just my thoughts out loud. over the same sanctions for contractors, neighing here for half a year no one believed and suddenly everything fell upon you when 90% paved .... underestimating the enemy and overestimating friends is stupid

And what do you think?

[Leshy1975]

The launch of the Russian gas pipeline Nord Stream 2 is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of the company "Gazprom", released on the day of the investor.

Well, here's how to finish it, then we'll see what is the result. In the meantime, with planning and forecasting from Gazprom, from the word - no matter how.
And presentations and pictures, yes, they know how.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Leshy1975

and forecasting at Gazprom

Could such a turn of events be predicted?

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Leshy1975

and forecasting at Gazprom

Could such a turn of events be predicted?

It should have been, and not just possible. Otherwise, many (analysts, intelligence) in vain eat their bread. Sanctions did not arise yesterday, and the Americans advertised their tightening, as they say now that the next ones will probably come to consumers of Russian energy carriers. So it was hardly a big secret. And the options for sanctions should have been calculated and should have been prepared for them, it’s not about pennies. But taking into account that Gazprom miscalculated:
1) with the Ukrainian GTS
2) with TP
3) with SP-2
About the Power of Siberia, this will become known later, although it is already an economically dubious project.
Don't you think that there are too many miscalculations? There are so many that suspiciously resemble a pattern. And then, look for who benefits from it. But I already wrote a lot about it.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Leshy1975

It should have been, and not just possible.

You know, there’s nothing to talk about. We do not know anything. From the word at all.
We see not just the top, its very edge. Which pitfalls there are known to a narrow circle of people. Even Germany went against the mattress to the end. But they put the squeeze on everyone else. This means that we were confident that the zaluzhniki would not be able to bend everyone down like that. And confidence is not out of nowhere. Apparently, the "trump cards" were stronger in the winners

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Leshy1975

It should have been, and not just possible.

You know, there’s nothing to talk about. We do not know anything. From the word at all.
We see not just the top, its very edge. Which pitfalls there are known to a narrow circle of people. Even Germany went against the mattress to the end. But they put the squeeze on everyone else. This means that we were confident that the zaluzhniki would not be able to bend everyone down like that. And confidence is not out of nowhere. Apparently, the "trump cards" were stronger in the winners

You have a logical error in your reasoning. If, as you assure

We do not know anything. From the word at all.

Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?
But at the same time, I consistently, not for the first year, wrote that Gazprom’s affairs are bad. For which he was mercilessly minus all the time, but time confirmed who was right. Where did I get the information from? Media, other bloggers (of course, as a rule, opposition) who have more detailed understanding of this problem. Conclusions, and the conclusions were already made by myself. So there was enough information, but many until the last did not even want to look for her, and not that to trust her or analyze her. Indeed, why, if many trust only what the authorities say on federal TV.
Fortunately for me, I have completely stopped watching federal TV, and I am looking for the necessary information on the Internet and already analyzing it. Therefore, the results of Gazprom's "work" did not come as a surprise to me.

PS I personally appeal to you too. Stop trusting the federal media and start thinking critically, look for information yourself. Compare it with what you see, how much this corresponds to the reality around, and not to fantasies from TV. And then you, too, like I at one time, at first will be very upset by the recognition of reality, but then, for you, it will become less incomprehensible.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Leshy1975

Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?

Right. but you missed one phrase

We see not that the top, its very edge.

So I talk about what I see. I'm trying to prove on a branch that you don't have to go deeper. It makes no sense to argue whether Gazprom's lawyers are to blame or not, since none I didn’t see the contract in my eyes.
Everything else is from the evil one. Solid speculation

So there was enough information

No. Again a small part. All the important part is classified. Again you only know what you are allowed to know.
By the way, I never said that Gazprom is all in chocolate

Fortunately for me, I completely stopped watching federal TV.

Only sports and series

[Leshy1975]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Leshy1975

Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?

Right. but you missed one phrase

We see not that the top, its very edge.

So I talk about what I see. I'm trying to prove on a branch that you don't have to go deeper. It makes no sense to argue whether Gazprom's lawyers are to blame or not, since none I didn’t see the contract in my eyes.
Everything else is from the evil one. Solid speculation

So there was enough information

No. Again a small part. All the important part is classified. Again you only know what you are allowed to know.
By the way, I never said that Gazprom is all in chocolate

Fortunately for me, I completely stopped watching federal TV.

Only sports and series

Well, after all, there is an evaluation criterion, known for a very long time, back in the Bible:
judge by business them and not according to the words.

I was interested in talking with you, but today, unfortunately, I have to leave. Let's talk about different topics.

[DMB 75]

You are not the only one who is "stunned", to put it mildly. And they are on the ground, and they receive millions of dollars in "wages" ...

[Lamata]

one effective managers and even one friend

[DMB 75]

As previously reported, due to the imposed US sanctions, the Swiss company Allseas withdrew its vessels from the pipeline construction area, thereby halting construction.

A fine The contract should have been spelled out. Unless, of course, not "effective managers" concluded ...

[old friend]

do not expect. The Swiss have normal lawyers. This is 100% force majeure.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: old friend

This is 100% force majeure.

And is it called the sanction from the State Department?

[Pereira]

It was necessary to Gazprom Swiss and hire. And the result would be cheaper.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Pereira

It was necessary to Gazprom Swiss and hire.

Where to hire?

[old friend]

The Swiss company has an almost monopoly position in the stacker market. Not Gazprom dictated the conditions to them, but they - to Gazprom. Therefore, it doesn’t matter what the lawyers of Gazprom would like to include in a force majeure contract.

[Liam]

Quote: old friend

The Swiss company has almost a monopoly position in the stacker market

Not really. Competitor-Saipem

[old friend]

IMHO, only in April 2019 did Gazprom have a showdown with them over the failure with the South Stream. It is unlikely that they were seriously considered until this moment, as an alternative to All Seas.

[Liam]

Quote: old friend

IMHO, only in April 2019 did Gazprom have a showdown with them over the failure with the South Stream. It is unlikely that they were seriously considered until this moment, as an alternative to All Seas.

But the Blue Stream and Turkish who laid?

[old friend]

about blue - I have no idea, but it was a very long time ago. Turkish, like, All Seas worked
I explain: at the time of the decision to lay the SP-2, there may have been unclosed legal issues with Saipem.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: DMB 75

not "effective managers" concluded ...

Actually, lawyers make contracts

[Lord of the Sith]

The main thing is that the Yankees, and their jackals tame, do not spoil, even to the point that the warships are guarded by the pipe-layer.
Because of their chasing, a whole year is lost.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

up to the point that warships are guarded by the pipe layer.

The problem is that he will lay the pipe in the territorial waters of Denmark.
And there anything can happen

[Lord of the Sith]

It cannot, if they sign an agreement on laying pipes in territorial waters, in which case they are fully responsible for everything that happens at home.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Can not,

Can. You can always make a trick. This is taught to all saboteurs. For example, the WWII mine will pop up and accidentally fall under our ship
And then refer to the notorious force majeure.
No Witnesses Anyway

[Lord of the Sith]

No need to invent fairy tales, this is not Hollywood. Our specialists are not made with a finger, there are no mines there, saboteurs will not pass and will not emerge.

But the protection is needed. Then they will not turn up, there will be no provocations and sabotage.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

No need to invent fairy tales, this is not Hollywood.

I didn’t seem to argue about the mine. I said a sneak always can be put

saboteurs will not pass and will not emerge.

Who will stop them?

[Lord of the Sith]

Who will stop them?

Cheburashka and Crocodile Gene, what do you think?

[Lipchanin]

I think no one

[major147]

Quote: Lipchanin

You can always make a trick.

They do not allow ships with anchor positioning to lay pipes due to the flooding of large quantities of chemical and other weapons in those waters. They can easily fine-tune something.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: major147

due to the flooding in those waters of chemical and other weapons in large quantities.

I didn’t know about it
Just sure that if the state went against the construction, they will be able to do anything

[impostor]

Along with 161-FZ, there must be a Federal Law "On the material responsibility of effective"

[anjey]

The Russian company Gazprom announced the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline at the end of this year. Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak said the same, who said that the pipeline would be completed despite the pressure of some countries, in particular the USA.

Here it is in our opinion - the boy said, the boy made, the GDP promises to raise the standard of living and of the simple people of Russia would have come true, that would be positive for the rest of his life ...

[Kronos]

Just said so far

[Lamata]

But he’s the most kid boy.

[paul3390]

Something of our type "effective managers" every year more and more mows. And the guarantor said that these are super-qualified specialists who, if they do not pay a billion a month, would be immediately snatched up by foreign concerns .. Funny? Yes, somehow not very much. Because the number of jambs at all levels of government is slowly becoming simply catastrophic ..

[AlexG83]

It was necessary to create the appearance that "the evil Russians forced the completion of the remaining section at gunpoint." And fit 1-2 warships for the background, so to speak.

[Thrifty]

AlexG83 - then the porters, when our warships appeared through the pipeline home, would run away!

[Guards turn]

Gazprom - the impression is that you take an example from Ukraine (the main thing is to shout, and then whatever happens). It is necessary to do everything quietly and silently, these loud reports are useless.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

And "Academician Chersky" is already approaching Tsushima ...

[Vladimir Mashkov]

And the Akademik Chersky, walking slowly, is now almost in the Tsushima Strait. It is not clear who is minus my message and why. Maybe someone misunderstands it?

[Tank jacket]

It would seem where does this news?
"MOSCOW, February 11. Relocation of the Sea Launch floating cosmodrome from the port of Long Beach in the USA, California, to the Slavyansk shipyard in Primorye will begin on February 22, a source in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti."

[Erich]

Can it happen that this ship will not be allowed to complete the pipe?

[Barmaleyka]

The launch of the Russian Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of Gazprom, released by investor day.

in the summer on the site I was terribly mined for such a thing and even called all sorts of different indecent

[7,62x54]

And if they could finish it in a month, read directly the threats of amers.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

I think the performance is yet to come. And the amount of the fine will still be calculated, and it depends on the losses, deadlines and costs. It’s too early to talk about this.

[impostor]

Write sho Turpotok can redirect to the joint venture. The Taming of the Shrew? Then you won’t envy the tomatoes in Idlib ...

[Old Horseradish]

Kirdyk will soon be these "effective managers". Again, the loot will be pulled over.

[123456789]

It’s time for the project to change manager

[ustinov.yuri]

About 30% of the shares of the "public domain" belong to the American investor. This is the reason for the sluggish and belated sanctions. Financial analysts say it takes 1,5 to 2 years to gain access to a controlling stake. Almost all aluminum (over 90%) is already owned by the United States. There is a process of selling energy. Guys, our grandchildren will not have anything, including the country.

[old friend]

something can belong to someone who owns a controlling stake (and not always that). The rest are entitled to dividends and take part in management (without a blocking vote).

Financial analysts say it takes 1,5 to 2 years to gain access to a controlling stake.

from 1.5 to 2 years ??? You better not spread this nonsense. You can only get to a controlling stake in 1 way - if the current owner wants it - the state. This is impossible, at least until the power changes.

[ustinov.yuri]

That is why the current government will sit until the full sale of everything and everyone. Remember how the state was poured. money in banks, supposedly for stabilization. And help to “poor oligarchs” because of sanctions? How much was presented to Deripaska and Russian Cars? Whose are PM and aluminum now? I hope you remember that the United States ate it for 5 months?

[ANB]

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
Lots and lots!
They just got a taste.
Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.

Yes, there is no route there without Denmark.

[cat Rusich]

"The security service of Gazprom is not working well." "Academician Chersky" could have arrived at the "place of events" in advance ...

[old friend]

Chersky was supposed to be in the Baltic at the very beginning and participate in the work, IMHO. At the same time, the team would have gained experience. And now the Baltic season is the storm season. Perhaps this is why they are not in a hurry. At the end of spring they will begin and by autumn they will finish. With such weather and gas consumption in Europe, there is nothing special to rush.

[iouris]

Gazprom "told" - Gazprom did. Only sometimes they don't guess the timing.

[Brturin]

News ... "Of course, the completion of construction will be postponed by several months. But I hope that by the end of this year, or in the first quarter of next year, the work will be completed and the gas pipeline will start working" - Putin (11.01), "Following my conversations with Miller I can say that the implementation of the project should be completed and its launch should take place at the end of 2020 or at the latest in the first quarter of 2021 "- German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geir (31.01). Here and again about this ... Shell Representative in Russia Sederik Kremers (17.01) - "We believe that pipeline transport has advantages, so we support the project. The sanctions that have been introduced - yes, they affect the project. They are reason that the project may indeed be postponed for some time. "Head of the Austrian OMV Rainer Seele (06.02) -" The operator of the project, Nord Stream 2, is working on a plan, but they are not yet ready to present this plan... We do not think that in the short term the construction of the pipeline will be resumed. "I hope that this plan will appear soon and the situation will be clarified, but for now ...

[paco.soto]

After reading it several times, I was horrified by this text!, Which was like nonsense, not worthy of being in
With a supposedly face of professor Preobrazhensky: "who stood on whom" ?!

[Cheerock]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: Victor_B

More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

As a rule, in international contracts there is a Force Majeure clause, which lists the conditions under which the parties are exempted from the contract. A typical clause in contracts looks like this:

Should any circumstances in the country of the producer of the goods producing or in the country of the Buyer of the goods arise preventing either party from complete or partial fulfillment of its obligations under present Contract, namely: fire, acts of elements, war, military operations of any nature, blockades, strikes or labor disagreements of strike charter, prohibition / hindrance of export and / or import, government juridical acts preventing performing the obligations under the present Contract shall be extended for a period equal to that during which such circumstances and contingencies continue to be in force.
Should these continue circumstances to be in force for more than 30 days, either party hereto shall have the right to renounce any further fulfillment of the obligations under the present Contract. In this case, neither party shall be entitled to make any demand upon the other party for compensation or penalty.
The party for whom it becomes impossible to fulfill its obligations under this contract shall immediately advise the other party of the beginning and cessation of the circumstances preventing the execution of its obligation.
Certificate issued by Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Buyer's or Seller's country shall be sufficient proof of such contingencies and their duration.
If any dispute, ICC 421 will be used for the settlement of the force majeure.

I think that since there is silence on the air about a showdown with All Seas, then the case is recognized as force majeure.