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Gazprom spoke about the timing of the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline

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Gazprom spoke about the timing of the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline

The launch of the Russian Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of Gazprom, released by investor day.


The Russian company Gazprom announced the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline at the end of this year. Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak said the same, who said that the pipeline would be completed despite the pressure of some countries, in particular the USA.

Gazprom itself does not talk about the methods and methods of completing the pipeline; earlier, the operator of the Nord Stream 2 company has denied information about sending requests to the Danish authorities to amend the permission to build the pipeline so that it can be completed, despite US sanctions .

It was alleged that gas pipeline builders were looking for the possibility of building a gas pipeline using tandems - anchor pipe-laying barges in conjunction with vessels equipped with a dynamic positioning system (anchor-less), which is prohibited by the terms of the agreement.

Most likely, the remaining kilometers of the gas pipeline will be laid by the Akademik Chersky crane-assembly and installation pipe-laying vessel, which recently left Nakhodka and is heading for the Baltic Sea. This vessel belongs to Gazprom and in all respects meets the conditions for laying the pipeline.

Last year, Energy Minister Alexander Novak announced that Academician Chersky was the only vessel capable of completing pipe laying for the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. He said that to start work he needed additional preparation, which would take some time.

As previously reported, due to US sanctions, the Swiss company Allseas withdrew its vessels from the pipeline construction area, thereby halting construction. To date, it remains to lay no more than 130 km of pipes along the bottom of the Baltic Sea.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 11 February 2020 18: 24
    +2
    Well, right! The less they know - the more "sensational" in their papers! laughing
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 11 February 2020 18: 32
      -1
      FEODOR - taking into account the fact that the main part about the ship's trip to complete the pipe was laid out "for all to see", you can not expect sensations!
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 February 2020 20: 30
        +5
        Why ? , in our time, everything can be and the ship may not go there ...
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 11 February 2020 20: 31
        -23
        for the completion of the pipe is laid out "for all to see", you can not expect sensations!

        in other words - a small spoon is shown to the whole world ---- the incredible popularity of a small spoon
        "chasers! waiting for cons
        The main relations with the outskirts are the highway and the air + shipbuilding, + villages \ households + labor migration.
        and raw materials are a trifle in a spoon (to determine the level of competencies)
        1. businessv
          businessv 11 February 2020 21: 47
          +14
          Quote: antivirus
          in other words - a small spoon is shown to the whole world ---- the incredible popularity of a small spoon
          "chasers! waiting for cons

          Colleague, try next time not so chaotically express your thoughts please! drinks
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 12 February 2020 07: 56
            -11
            I am writing to you, and I answer all the minusers for spoons (approx 3-5 months already). FUNNY.
            according to Pavlov, the reflex is developed - I trained him to the word "spoon"
            IN ESSENCE, it is possible to supply raw materials to ZEurope and around the world, but at least return to the level of production of the entire complex of machine building in Russia (2nd and 3rd redistribution) - NECESSARY.
            It is easier to do this on the former USSR.
            Therefore, linking (like the United States and China) raw materials is nevertheless closer and cheaper with our export to the outskirts. Luke must be in our team.
            To crush them in all azimuths for gas-oil + access to the Russian market (we need from Bandera) NO FRIENDSHIP WITH BROTHERS.
            - and also: the censor (?) Terskiy (I don't know for sure) deleted my about "shoulder straps and points - the site started playing war. His right."
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 12 February 2020 08: 16
              +5
              Quote: antivirus
              according to Pavlov, the reflex is developed - I trained him to the word "spoon"

              Yes, as much as you like, train yourself personally, but likening all users of the site to "Pavlov's dogs" is at least incorrect. Why should people remember what your "spoons" are? Especially those who read your post for the first time. request Very similar to some kind of nonsense.
              1. antivirus
                antivirus 13 February 2020 04: 14
                0
                You are right - it’s stupid to argue about spoons, it’s strange that the children’s saying so hooked on the “patriotic heroes” --- AND THE WHOLE 5 AIRCRAFT CARRIERS WAS NOT BUILT ON SOMEONE’S WANTS (AND 300 PCS SU 77 (??) DIDN’T CREATED) -only for a small spoon.
                I confirm my position - as the authorities consider --- they are building the state-army + navy (for a small spoon)
                a friend's daughter 10 years ago, growing up to the extent of her age, said this - and react like that.
                this is 146% of my hype on delirium (whose?).
                you can ban SMarshak everything, and Nosov

                when that "in the skull" drove objectionable, I will tease (according to my mood) the public.
                and funny in epaulettes and points - such was the life of the site authors in the 70s-80s.
                philosophy - we should be glad that the state is alive and we (with the Russian literary language and "in the p.m." spoons ")
            2. businessv
              businessv 12 February 2020 12: 48
              0
              Quote: antivirus
              It is possible to supply raw materials to Europe and around the world, but at least return to the level of production of the whole complex of machine-building in Russia (2 and 3 repartitions) -NADO.

              Well, only a very narrow-minded person can argue with this! I just think that our government will not agree with us, they don’t need it! Above them here, but does not drip over their children in far abroad countries, so their life was a success!
    2. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 11 February 2020 21: 27
      +1
      Right. And then they chat like women in the market. Sometimes you open the news and grab your head: why, cretins / enemies of the people, do you publish this? Moreover, in such a context that it even causes me some irritation, and uncle Vasya will cause fierce hatred in a locksmith ...
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B 11 February 2020 18: 28
    +7
    More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
    Lots and lots!
    They just got a taste.
    Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
    In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 18: 34
      +11
      Quote: Victor_B
      More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

      But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 19: 16
        -1
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        The contract is drawn up competently or so

        as always .... so
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 11 February 2020 19: 16
        +5
        Pete hi
        If there would be
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        The contract is drawn up competently
        that would not be No.
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        runaway and not completed work

        Here, the purest - sloppiness! negative
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 11 February 2020 19: 40
          0
          Well, what to expect from "effective" (although it would be more accurate to be defective) managers and thieves majors-lawyers? what
        2. Edik
          Edik 11 February 2020 20: 57
          +6
          Quote: Terenin
          If there would be
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          The contract is drawn up competently
          that would not be
          Quote: Pete Mitchell
          runaway and not completed work

          Here, the purest - sloppiness!

          You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.
          Under what conditions would you agree to build a gas pipeline, knowing that the United States can turn on sanctions against you at any time?
          This will be the answer to all your perplexities.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 11 February 2020 23: 06
            +4
            Quote: Edik
            Quote: Terenin
            If there would be
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            The contract is drawn up competently
            that would not be
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            runaway and not completed work

            Here, the purest - sloppiness!

            You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.
            Under what conditions would you agree to build a gas pipeline, knowing that the United States can turn on sanctions against you at any time?
            This will be the answer to all your perplexities.

            Edik, let them think about the Swiss ... request (e.g. Africans)
            I, about our "intellectuals" in the government ...
            1. Edik
              Edik 12 February 2020 06: 38
              0
              Quote: Terenin
              Edik, let them think about the Swiss ... (for example, Africans)

              And the casket just opens.
              The Swiss, if they are crazy, prescribed in the contract that in the case of US sanctions, they just wash their hands!
              In principle, you can thank them for the work done, it remains only 160 km to finish.

              Quote: Terenin
              I, about our "intellectuals" in the government ...

              No, you're still for the contract!
              A contract concluded, Gazprom and porters.
              1. Terenin
                Terenin 12 February 2020 18: 20
                +3
                Quote: Edik
                No, you're still for the contract!
                A contract concluded, Gazprom and porters.

                Yeah winked .
                As the movie hero B. Shcherbakov said: "You argue correctly, but on the scale of ... a foreman."
                Edik, this Gazprom with its "analysts" was given to you ...
                I’m talking about the role of the shortsightedness of the Government of Russia (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... belay who would have thought?) in the long disruption of the construction of SP-2. And that’s it.
                1. Edik
                  Edik 12 February 2020 18: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: Terenin
                  I'm talking about the role of the short-sightedness of the Russian Government (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... who would have thought?) in the long-term disruption of the construction of NS-2. And that's it.

                  And so it’s you for the Crimea ...
                  1. Terenin
                    Terenin 12 February 2020 18: 28
                    +3
                    Quote: Edik
                    Quote: Terenin
                    I'm talking about the role of the short-sightedness of the Russian Government (the intrigue of sanctions and the consequences ... who would have thought?) in the long-term disruption of the construction of NS-2. And that's it.

                    And so it’s you for the Crimea ...

                    All the best.
                    1. Edik
                      Edik 12 February 2020 18: 34
                      +1
                      Gennady, take an interest in these vessels!
                      They would have stood up to us very dearly and not when they hadn’t paid off! But anyway, ours had already insured themselves against this case by buying Academician Chersky.
          2. boss
            boss 11 February 2020 23: 31
            +2
            why do we put ourselves in the place of the Swiss ?!
            they had to do the work according to the contract.
            for money.
            for very good money.
            and we should not even be closely worried about their fears, phobias, etc.
            or fines.
            fines covering losses.
            it is a commercial enterprise, there are investors, banks and their investors.
            and yes, there are huge losses arising from unfulfilled work.
            what is there to rassusolit then?
            the fact that the Swiss did not calculate possible political or any other risks are the problems of the Swiss, and if the work was insured, then the insurers.
          3. anzar
            anzar 12 February 2020 00: 22
            -1
            You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.

            Which ones? Gazprom? After all, he is also registered there. Therefore, as the Swiss and the Swiss ...)))
          4. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 15 February 2020 22: 36
            0
            Quote: Edik
            You put yourself in the place of the Swiss.

            not worth it ... they didn’t lay it for thanks !!! request
      3. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 19: 52
        +1
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        the interval is composed correctly or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

        В any The contract has a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of the contract.
        Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom
        1. 210ox
          210ox 11 February 2020 19: 59
          +10
          Judging by how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 01
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            Judging by how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.

            Gets in the courts.
            After the verdict "Ukraine is a poor country and therefore Gazprom owes it", no lawyer can resist
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 11 February 2020 20: 12
              +2
              Judging by the results, absolutely anyone can work as a lawyer in Gazprom. This is not everyone will be taken to the rig.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 17
                +2
                Quote: Pereira
                Judging by the results, absolutely anyone can work as a lawyer in Gazprom. This is not everyone will be taken to the rig.

                Check out my post a little higher about the courts
                1. Pereira
                  Pereira 12 February 2020 21: 08
                  -1
                  Why have I always known about the love of bourgeois courts for Russia, but not lawyers? Apparently, I'm more professional.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 11 February 2020 20: 45
              -1
              Well, then, judging by your words, the completion of SP2 by Gazprom alone raises very serious concerns.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 51
                +1
                Quote: 210ox
                Well, then, judging by your words, the completion of SP2 by Gazprom alone raises very serious concerns.

                Yes. I think so too.
                Sticks in the wheels just started to insert. The closer the ending is, the more these sticks will be and they will be thicker
                I do not exclude direct sabotage against our pipe layer
                1. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
                  +1
                  I do not exclude direct sabotage against our pipe layer


                  Exactly! I don’t think it will be combat swimmers, but all sorts of green ones, especially Danish ones!
            3. boss
              boss 11 February 2020 23: 36
              +4
              You forgot to specify, a mentally retarded lawyer.
              When concluding contracts, the parties themselves choose a court where they will consider mutual claims.
              The choice of the Stockholm arbitration tribunal, which makes deliberately unfair or biased decisions, is precisely a matter of competence for Gazprom lawyers.
              it turns out that the lawyers in the RF Ministry of Defense are better; they received both money and fines and penalties for undelivered Mistrals, as nice ones.
              and the Stockholm shameful decision is the direct fault of the lawyers, the results of their incompetence, and the lack of analytical and legal departments.
              and now the FSE is to blame, but not them!
              1. kapitan92
                kapitan92 12 February 2020 01: 33
                +4
                Quote: patron
                The choice of the Stockholm arbitration tribunal, which makes deliberately unfair or biased decisions, is precisely a matter of competence for Gazprom lawyers.

                There is its own national arbitration, which considers the disputes of companies from their country. There are several arbitration institutes in which the geography of disputes is much wider. These are recognized world arbitration institutions such as the London International Arbitration Court (LCIA), the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce (SCC Institute), and the International Arbitration Court of the International Chamber of Commerce (ICC).
                LCIA (London)
                SCC (Stockholm)
                ICC (Paris)
                Also, to resolve disputes with contractors from certain regions or for other reasons, you can choose slightly less well-known, but no less effective arbitration institutions, which can be distinguished by region:
                American-Australian - American Arbitration Association (AAA);
                Asian - China International Economic and Trade Arbitration Commission (CIETAC); Japan Commercial Arbitration Association (JCAA); Hong Kong International Arbitration Center (HKIAC); Singapore Center for International Arbitration (SIAC). May be attractive to Russian companies located in Siberia and the Far East;
                European - German Arbitration Institute (DIS); Chamber of Commerce in Geneva (CCIG); Chamber of Commerce in Zurich (ZNK); International Arbitration Court of the Federal Chamber of Economics of Austria (WKO); Belgian Center for Reconciliation and Arbitration (CEPANI); Netherlands Arbitration Institute (NAI), etc. The listed arbitration centers can be selected to resolve disputes with European companies;
                Stockholm arbitration is the most popular arbitration among Russian companies. This is due to the agreement concluded in 1970 between the USSR and the USA ("Optional Arbitration Clause of 1977"), according to which all disputes between organizations from these countries were referred for resolution to this institution. SCC has not lost its leading position for Russian companies at present. The dispute resolution process is as transparent as in London, but slightly less expensive, which is undoubtedly an advantage.
                The court's decision in favor of the outskirts is clearly biased, politicized, which does not do him credit and "tarnishes" his reputation.
                Do you think that the decision on this issue in London or Paris would be different? hi
              2. Piramidon
                Piramidon 12 February 2020 08: 26
                0
                Quote: patron
                When concluding contracts, the parties themselves choose a court where they will consider mutual claims.

                Do you think that the Swiss Allseas would agree to conclude a contract subject to arbitration in some Basmanny court in Moscow?
        2. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 20: 10
          +4
          Gentlemen, I agree with everyone and at the same time I really want Sergey, Lipchanin to be right
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

          We have to hope for the best, although events suggest that
          Quote: 210ox
          how and how many times "Gazprom" gets "on the grandmother" the competence of the responsible persons is questionable.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 18
            +1
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            and at the same time I really want Sergey, Lipchanin to be right

            Thank you hi
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 20: 23
              +7
              Sergei, I always want to believe in the best, but as I said: I agree with my colleagues, I hope we are mistaken. It cannot be that decent lawyers do not stand behind such a stream of money. I’m forgiven a lot at work, but God forbid to step aside from standard actions and take a chance on your own initiative - it’s not enough
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 29
                +1
                Quote: Pete Mitchell
                It cannot be that decent lawyers do not stand behind such a stream of money

                Even the most lawyers cannot resist the state.
                And it was the state that stood up against the construction.
                We will not discount courts. As they judge, we have already seen.
                So, there are already few that depend on lawyers.
                They did their job, made a contract, But how the court will turn everything around, not one lawyer will not say
                1. Pete mitchell
                  Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 20: 33
                  +8
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  it was the state that stood up against construction
                  It is certainly impossible to play gambling with the State, but it is time for the Russian Federation to remember how to defend its interests
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 38
                    +2
                    Quote: Pete Mitchell
                    It is certainly impossible to play gambling with the State, but it is time for the Russian Federation to remember how to defend its interests

                    Yes, the Russian Federation cannot influence these courts. request
                    They are already bought by the mattress.
                    Another farce will begin soon. Boeing trial
                    And the result is predictable
                    1. Pete mitchell
                      Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 20: 51
                      +8
                      We'll have to chop without assistants.
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Another farce will begin soon. Boeing trial

                      To tell you the truth, I don’t quite understand which side of the Russian Federation is in this matter. The evidence presented does not look confident, it’s more about verbal casuistry. Now the question of closing the airspace in the Rostov zone is very popular with the bourgeoisie, but they have not tried to read the restrictions .. I think that Clintonsha asked the general line for this show / court back in '14: 777 was shot down by a Russian rocket. She told the truth - yes; she said nonsense - yes .., the public is not used to delving into
                      1. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 21: 09
                        +2
                        Quote: Pete Mitchell
                        The evidence presented does not look confident

                        Yes, they do not need any evidence. From the word at all. Everything has already been decided and scheduled. The court is needed only to oust the true culprit.
                        If the Orkains are out of business, and Russia is to blame, Americans would lay out their evidence that "We have them, but we will not show them to you"
                      2. Pete mitchell
                        Pete mitchell 12 February 2020 02: 18
                        +8
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Everything is already decided and scheduled.

                        We are constantly returning to the discussion about the passivity of the position of the Russian Federation. Perhaps you need to get the candelabra and apply as directed ...
                2. businessv
                  businessv 11 February 2020 21: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And it was the state that stood up against the construction.

                  Quite right, and a hostile state with all its "grunts", which makes the task of completing the gas pipeline very difficult, not only technically, because one of the reasons for the sanctions is also money! Indeed, during this time delayed before the launch of the Stream, the minke whales will be able to suck in a lot of their own, quite expensive oil and gas product to old Europe, and we, on the contrary, will lose a lot of profit!
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 11 February 2020 22: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: businessv
                    minke whales will be able to suck in an old woman in Europe a lot of her, quite expensive oil and gas product,

                    That's why the Germans did not bend to the last
                    I really don’t know what they are and how now request
                3. doodlez
                  doodlez 11 February 2020 22: 32
                  0
                  And it was the state that stood up against the construction. So you need to rely on your own strength and not at random. Gazprom What are the states only learned yesterday? Where is the domestic pipelayer? What were these managers thinking?
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 11 February 2020 22: 41
                    0
                    Quote: doodlez
                    So you need to defend yourself and not at random

                    And where did you get the idea that Gazprom acted at random?
                    Where is the domestic pipe-laying machine?

                    Goes to work
                    What did these managers think.

                    It looks like you were the only one who thought for the whole "Gazprom"
                    Can one replace everyone there?
                    In saving will
                    1. doodlez
                      doodlez 12 February 2020 23: 21
                      -1
                      And where did you get the idea that "Gazprom" acted "maybe"? From the facts of their activities balgaria ukraine sp 2
                      Goes to the place of work. Have you looked at the ship? And why wasn’t the ship ready yesterday? Go to hell .......... It looks like you alone thought for the whole "Gazprom"
                      Can one replace everyone there?
                      You will find out during the savings. P.S. Maybe the West will not appreciate this.
        3. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 21: 37
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          In any contract, there is a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of a contract.

          as well as force majeure situation
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

          Quote: Lipchanin
          Don't think that "yellow-mouth" law school graduates are sitting in Gazprom

          Well, judging by some representatives of the government or the governor’s corps, I can quite allow this
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 21: 51
            +1
            Quote: Barmaleyka
            as well as force majeure situation

            Quote

            In any contract, there is a clause on liability for the unilateral termination of a contract.

            It is about the unilateral termination of work
            Force majeure is prescribed in a separate line
            Well, judging by some representatives of the government or the governor’s corps, I can quite allow this

            I will quote again
            Do not think that in Gazprom sit "yellow-mouth" graduates of law schools

            Where is there even a word about "some representatives of the government or the governor's corps"?
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 22: 50
              -1
              Quote: Lipchanin
              It is about the unilateral termination of work
              Force majeure is prescribed in a separate line

              so it will be force majeure
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Where is there even a word about "some representatives of the government or the governor's corps"?

              Do you think that in state corporations it is different?
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 23: 04
                -1
                Quote: Barmaleyka
                so it will be force majeure

                The threat of sanctions?
                And everywhere, force majeure is considered a hurricane, tornado, earthquake. In general, that does not depend on the person.
                Are sanctions related to natural disasters?
                Do you think that in state corporations it is different?

                I believe that the best of the best are being recruited to such an organization.
                They are allowed money to choose just such
                There is a competition for admission more than in any prestigious university
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 23: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Are sanctions related to natural disasters?

                  where did you get that force majeure is only natural disasters ?!
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And everywhere force majeure is considered a hurricane, tornado, earthquake

                  everywhere it is only with you
                  an unpredictable event, independent of the will of the parties involved in the transaction, but leading to the inability to fulfill contractual obligations
                  it is written about the impossibility to fulfill obligations FOR THE TIME of the action of such forces, that is, as soon as the mattresses refuse sanction, they will immediately continue
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I believe that the best of the best are being recruited to such an organization.

                  you think so
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  There is a competition for admission more than in any prestigious university

                  are you reassuring yourself
                  give you examples from our not so distant past with crap and other things?
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 11 February 2020 23: 17
                    -1
                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    independent of the will of the parties involved in the transaction, but leading to the impossibility of fulfilling contractual obligations

                    Is sanction an impossibility? belay
                    Strange, but we live under sanctions and nothing, alive

                    you think so

                    Anyone thinks so normal employer.
                    However, if you want to ruin your company, dial from the street
                    are you reassuring yourself

                    I know that for sure
                    Here is an elementary logic. Bad staff, bad work, no profit.
                    They pay crazy money to players, but they save on staff? Take anyone to work?
                    Well, you probably do that
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 23: 21
                      +1
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Strange, but we live under sanctions and nothing, alive

                      our winter is considered a natural disaster for europe so relax
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      I know that for sure

                      do you work there
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Here is an elementary logic. Bad staff, bad work, no profit.

                      the profit will be a lard more a lard less this is a trifle with those volumes
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      They pay crazy money to players, but they save on staff?

                      these are show-offs and nothing else
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Well, you probably do that

                      Will you forgive who you work for and what is your experience in managing work?
                      1. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 23: 36
                        -1
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        our winter is considered a natural disaster for europe so relax

                        That's right, it does not depend on a person.
                        Sanctions also do not depend on a person?
                        You can’t fight winter.
                        With sanctions too?
                        do you work there

                        Friends work in branches and tell how difficult it is to get a job and what are the requirements
                        the profit will be a lard more a lard less this is a trifle with those volumes

                        Is your head okay?
                        I have nothing to talk about with you.
                        Since you consider sanctions an unstoppable force.
                        Since you think that the largest company signing international contracts is gaining lawyers from the street.
                        Since you think that for the state company BILLION is not money.
                        You are either stupid or an ordinary troll.
                        I have no desire to talk with such a person
                      2. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 23: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        how hard it is to get a job and what are the requirements

                        well this is an argument, it is indisputable
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        I have no desire to talk with such a person

                        according to your disputes, the CTO troll is very visible
                        and in the situation with VTB sberbank and gazprёm, the level of legal experts is very clearly visible, by the way, do not specify the figures for the losses of these three organizations over the past five years in litigation in the west?
                    2. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 23: 22
                      -1
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Is sanction an impossibility?

                      don’t completely swear a vision, if, as a result of sanctions, the company may go bankrupt, then what impossibility
                    3. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 23: 26
                      -1
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Is sanction an impossibility?

                      What penalty did France pay for the Mistals? feel
                      1. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 06: 53
                        0
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        What penalty did France pay for the Mistals?

                        The French paid 1,12 billion euros.
                      2. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 08: 05
                        -1
                        you see the difference between the return for outstanding volumes and the penalty see ?!
                      3. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 08: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        you see the difference between the return for outstanding volumes and the penalty see ?!

                        I see what? What question, such an answer.
                      4. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 08: 24
                        -1
                        so the French did not pay the penalty, they returned the money for what they did not
                      5. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 08: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        so the French did not pay the penalty, they returned the money for what they did not

                        No sir, they just paid the penalty.
                      6. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 08: 42
                        -1
                        Penalty (fine, penalty) - the amount of money specified by law or by the contract that the debtor is obligated to pay to the creditor in case of default or improper performance of obligations

                        for Mistral there were no fines returned OUR money
                        800 llamas of payment and another plus for carrying out the experimental work France did not pay ANY FINE
                      7. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 09: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        800 llamas of payment and another plus for carrying out the experimental work France did not pay ANY FINE

                        No sir, this is exactly what you wrote:
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        Penalty (fine, penalty) - the amount of money determined by law or contract that the debtor is obligated to pay to the creditor in case of default or improper performance of obligations

                        Without any advances, pure penalty!
                        As the media present, this is a politicus.
                      8. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 09: 13
                        -1
                        it’s not fines; it’s a refund; not fulfilled volumes, plus we didn’t receive
                      9. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 09: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Barmaleyka
                        it’s not fines; it’s a refund; not fulfilled volumes, plus we didn’t receive

                        No sir, this is exactly the penalty for breaking the contract!
                      10. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 09: 29
                        -1
                        Apparently you don’t understand what you are writing about, you paid in advance for making a fur coat, you didn’t make a fur coat for any reason, and you received a refund of any FINE paid in advance, they returned the ADVANCE PAYMENT and by the way not 1.2 lard, but less than one lard, in any case, according to the statement of the French
                      11. Edik
                        Edik 12 February 2020 09: 55
                        +1
                        Vladimir, was wrong, sorry!
                      12. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 12 February 2020 10: 00
                        0
                        Quote: Edik
                        was wrong, sorry!

                        is hi
      4. major147
        major147 11 February 2020 20: 23
        +4
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

        There was information that the situation with sanctions was included in the contract as "force majeure".
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 11 February 2020 20: 31
          +7
          Quote: major147
          sanctions were included in the contract as "force majeure".
          Then I take off my hat to the lawyers of Gazprom’s counterparties
      5. cniza
        cniza 11 February 2020 20: 34
        +5
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Quote: Victor_B
        More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

        But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties


        Everyone will write off for force majeure and no one will be able to return anything unless the contract says about possible US actions, which is unlikely ...
      6. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 11 February 2020 21: 39
        +3
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Quote: Victor_B
        More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

        But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties
        It depends on what is considered force majeure, if it is specified in the contract - the ship's flooding, tsunami, diarrhea for the entire crew, etc. that is, spontaneously arisen circumstances of force majeure. Immediately, a man-made problem appeared under pressure from a third party, incl. it is possible that companies that were forced to interrupt the performance of work under the contract will be able to file a claim against this "third party" themselves for compensation for lost profits and compensation for damage paid in the form of a fine and forfeit for outstanding work. Only all this time, and not at all fast.
      7. BARKAS
        BARKAS 11 February 2020 21: 40
        +4
        In the contract, this situation with sanctions was stipulated in advance as force majeure and no one compensates anyone.
      8. antivirus
        antivirus 12 February 2020 08: 00
        0
        even without fingers - if only Washington was not against it, for the time being. time is running out.
        They distribute candy wrappers for raw materials around the world
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 11 February 2020 20: 25
      -2
      Quote: Victor_B
      More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
      Lots and lots!
      They just got a taste.
      Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
      In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.

      wink Viktor Petrovich. That's all kind of grown-up people. How can you even start a grandiose project knowing that under the sanction sight without your pipe layers? bullyAnd the second sanctioners, so to speak lol Didn’t find anything better how to spoil the finish line? And eat a fish. And come back for dinner. You can feel the multi-way strategist.?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 12 February 2020 01: 44
        +1
        "Fabulous" with these "streams", like a drug addict / alcoholic who, in order to "throw himself in," drives with junk stolen from his relatives through pawnshops, waiting for some huckster to "fit", and upon returning home "asks for understanding." Absolutely all results are more than logical.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 February 2020 20: 53
      0
      Quote: Victor_B
      Denmark essentially lured the track into its waters, and Gazprom could go around

      Something here, not everything looks perfect, somewhere there is some kind of dirty trick.
    4. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 11 February 2020 21: 31
      0
      Yes, I also thought why these Danish (censorship) were taking time, and I suspected (censorship). Well, here it is.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 11 February 2020 18: 30
    -7
    So what about the compensation for the work that was not completed by the workers - is it written down even in the contract? Or, as always, the hope for "maybe" turned out to be stronger than common sense?
    1. Lamata
      Lamata 11 February 2020 18: 35
      +1
      Stopudovo on force majeure porters will refer. And Comrade Miller, how will the next get a bonus, or whatever they will do to him.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 19: 53
        +1
        Quote: Lamata
        Stopudovo on force majeure porters will refer

        They can refer at least to anyone.
        This "force majeure" must be proved
        1. Lamata
          Lamata 11 February 2020 20: 22
          -1
          Believe me, the lawyers are cunning there, and another very important question is which court will consider the lawsuit and whose law will be applicable.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 31
            +1
            Quote: Lamata
            which court will consider the lawsuit and whose law will be applicable.

            Do not go to the grandmother, not in our favor
            1. Lamata
              Lamata 11 February 2020 21: 40
              -1
              I hope that some kind of "independent" arbitration is indicated in the contract.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 21: 56
                0
                Quote: Lamata
                I hope that what is specified in the agreement is what kind of "independent" arbitration

                Yes, what to guess. All the same, no one has ever seen and will not see the agreement.
                We will look in court. If he certainly will
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 18: 35
      +2
      Compensation afterwards, after completion of construction.
      1. Sadam
        Sadam 11 February 2020 20: 03
        0
        what you are discussing is not money, it is surrender))). The key word for me is the end of construction. here is where an interesting game lies ahead. recent sanctions have updated the already applied not to builders but to users. Trump has re-elections in the fall - demonstrative actions may take place. some kind of incomprehensible movement in the Reichstag with the future chancellor ....
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 20: 13
          -2
          Are you sure you speak Russian? As if a slurred stream of subconscious))
        2. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 19
          -4
          Do you even understand what you said? belay
        3. major147
          major147 11 February 2020 20: 30
          +3
          Quote: Sadam
          recent sanctions have updated not only builders but users

          These sanctions are not about anything. Gas came to the hub in Baumgarten and everything, but who specifically received the molecules, cannot be technically determined
          1. Sadam
            Sadam 11 February 2020 20: 38
            +4
            Of course, I'm not claiming. this is just my thoughts out loud. over the same sanctions for contractors, they laughed together for half a year, no one believed, and suddenly everything fell on you when 90% was laid .... underestimating the enemy and overestimating friends is stupid
            1. major147
              major147 11 February 2020 20: 39
              +2
              Quote: Sadam
              Of course, I'm not claiming. this is just my thoughts out loud. over the same sanctions for contractors, they laughed together for half a year, no one believed, and suddenly everything fell on you when 90% was laid .... underestimating the enemy and overestimating friends is stupid

              And what do you think?
  4. Leshy1975
    Leshy1975 11 February 2020 18: 31
    +8
    The launch of the Russian gas pipeline Nord Stream 2 is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of the company "Gazprom", released on the day of the investor.

    Well, here's how to finish it, then we'll see what is the result. In the meantime, with planning and forecasting from Gazprom, from the word - no matter how.
    And presentations and pictures, yes, they know how.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 20
      -2
      Quote: Leshy1975
      and forecasting at Gazprom

      Could such a turn of events be predicted?
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 11 February 2020 20: 29
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: Leshy1975
        and forecasting at Gazprom

        Could such a turn of events be predicted?

        It should have been, and not just possible. Otherwise, many (analysts, intelligence) in vain eat their bread. Sanctions did not arise yesterday, and the Americans advertised their tightening, as they say now that the next ones will probably come to consumers of Russian energy carriers. So it was hardly a big secret. And the options for sanctions should have been calculated and should have been prepared for them, it’s not about pennies. But taking into account that Gazprom miscalculated:
        1) with the Ukrainian GTS
        2) with TP
        3) with SP-2
        About the Power of Siberia, this will become known later, although it is already an economically dubious project.
        Don't you think that there are too many miscalculations? There are so many that suspiciously resemble a pattern. And then, look for who benefits from it. But I already wrote a lot about it. hi
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 45
          -1
          Quote: Leshy1975
          It should have been, and not just possible.

          You know, there’s nothing to talk about. We do not know anything. From the word at all.
          We see not just the top, its very edge. Which pitfalls there are known to a narrow circle of people. Even Germany went against the mattress to the end. But they put the squeeze on everyone else. This means that we were confident that the zaluzhniki would not be able to bend everyone down like that. And confidence is not out of nowhere. Apparently, the "trump cards" were stronger in the winners
          1. Leshy1975
            Leshy1975 11 February 2020 21: 19
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: Leshy1975
            It should have been, and not just possible.

            You know, there’s nothing to talk about. We do not know anything. From the word at all.
            We see not just the top, its very edge. Which pitfalls there are known to a narrow circle of people. Even Germany went against the mattress to the end. But they put the squeeze on everyone else. This means that we were confident that the zaluzhniki would not be able to bend everyone down like that. And confidence is not out of nowhere. Apparently, the "trump cards" were stronger in the winners

            You have a logical error in your reasoning. If, as you assure
            We do not know anything. From the word at all.

            Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?
            But at the same time, I consistently, not for the first year, wrote that Gazprom’s affairs are bad. For which he was mercilessly minus all the time, but time confirmed who was right. Where did I get the information from? Media, other bloggers (of course, as a rule, opposition) who have more detailed understanding of this problem. Conclusions, and the conclusions were already made by myself. So there was enough information, but many until the last did not even want to look for her, and not that to trust her or analyze her. Indeed, why, if many trust only what the authorities say on federal TV.
            Fortunately for me, I have completely stopped watching federal TV, and I am looking for the necessary information on the Internet and already analyzing it. Therefore, the results of Gazprom's "work" did not come as a surprise to me.

            PS I personally appeal to you too. Stop trusting the federal media and start thinking critically, look for information yourself. Compare it with what you see, how much this corresponds to the reality around, and not to fantasies from TV. And then you, too, like I at one time, at first will be very upset by the recognition of reality, but then, for you, it will become less incomprehensible. hi
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 11 February 2020 21: 34
              -2
              Quote: Leshy1975
              Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?

              Right. but you missed one phrase
              We see not that the top, its very edge.

              So I talk about what I see. I'm trying to prove on a branch that you don't have to go deeper. It makes no sense to argue whether Gazprom's lawyers are to blame or not, since none I didn’t see the contract in my eyes.
              Everything else is from the evil one. Solid speculation
              So there was enough information

              No. Again a small part. All the important part is classified. Again you only know what you are allowed to know.
              By the way, I never said that Gazprom is all in chocolate
              Fortunately for me, I completely stopped watching federal TV.

              Only sports and series
              1. Leshy1975
                Leshy1975 11 February 2020 21: 49
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: Leshy1975
                Then you can’t have your own opinion on this topic. It’s not possible to talk about something you don’t know anything about, right?

                Right. but you missed one phrase
                We see not that the top, its very edge.

                So I talk about what I see. I'm trying to prove on a branch that you don't have to go deeper. It makes no sense to argue whether Gazprom's lawyers are to blame or not, since none I didn’t see the contract in my eyes.
                Everything else is from the evil one. Solid speculation
                So there was enough information

                No. Again a small part. All the important part is classified. Again you only know what you are allowed to know.
                By the way, I never said that Gazprom is all in chocolate
                Fortunately for me, I completely stopped watching federal TV.

                Only sports and series

                Well, after all, there is an evaluation criterion, known for a very long time, back in the Bible:
                judge by business them and not according to the words.

                I was interested in talking with you, but today, unfortunately, I have to leave. Let's talk about different topics. hi
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    1. DMB 75
      DMB 75 11 February 2020 19: 19
      +7
      You are not the only one who is "stunned", to put it mildly. And they are on the ground, and they receive millions of dollars in "wages" ...
      1. Lamata
        Lamata 11 February 2020 19: 52
        -1
        one effective managers and even one friend
  6. DMB 75
    DMB 75 11 February 2020 18: 33
    +6
    As previously reported, due to the imposed US sanctions, the Swiss company Allseas withdrew its vessels from the pipeline construction area, thereby halting construction.

    A fine The contract should have been spelled out. Unless, of course, not "effective managers" concluded ...
    1. old friend
      old friend 11 February 2020 18: 42
      +2
      do not expect. The Swiss have normal lawyers. This is 100% force majeure.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 19: 55
        0
        Quote: old friend
        This is 100% force majeure.

        And is it called the sanction from the State Department?
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 11 February 2020 20: 13
        -3
        It was necessary to Gazprom Swiss and hire. And the result would be cheaper.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 21
          -3
          Quote: Pereira
          It was necessary to Gazprom Swiss and hire.

          Where to hire?
        2. old friend
          old friend 11 February 2020 20: 39
          0
          The Swiss company has an almost monopoly position in the stacker market. Not Gazprom dictated the conditions to them, but they - to Gazprom. Therefore, it doesn’t matter what the lawyers of Gazprom would like to include in a force majeure contract.
          1. Liam
            Liam 11 February 2020 21: 01
            0
            Quote: old friend
            The Swiss company has almost a monopoly position in the stacker market

            Not really. Competitor-Saipem
            1. old friend
              old friend 12 February 2020 16: 01
              0
              IMHO, only in April 2019 did Gazprom have a showdown with them over the failure with the South Stream. It is unlikely that they were seriously considered until this moment, as an alternative to All Seas.
              1. Liam
                Liam 12 February 2020 19: 39
                0
                Quote: old friend
                IMHO, only in April 2019 did Gazprom have a showdown with them over the failure with the South Stream. It is unlikely that they were seriously considered until this moment, as an alternative to All Seas.

                But the Blue Stream and Turkish who laid?
                1. old friend
                  old friend 13 February 2020 13: 16
                  0
                  about blue - I have no idea, but it was a very long time ago. Turkish, like, All Seas worked
                  I explain: at the time of the decision to lay the SP-2, there may have been unclosed legal issues with Saipem.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 February 2020 19: 54
      -2
      Quote: DMB 75
      not "effective managers" concluded ...

      Actually, lawyers make contracts
  7. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 18: 34
    +2
    The main thing is that the Yankees, and their jackals tame, do not spoil, even to the point that the warships are guarded by the pipe-layer.
    Because of their chasing, a whole year is lost.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 February 2020 19: 56
      -4
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      up to the point that warships are guarded by the pipe layer.

      The problem is that he will lay the pipe in the territorial waters of Denmark.
      And there anything can happen
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 20: 00
        +1
        It cannot, if they sign an agreement on laying pipes in territorial waters, in which case they are fully responsible for everything that happens at home.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 05
          -6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Can not,

          Can. You can always make a trick. This is taught to all saboteurs. For example, the WWII mine will pop up and accidentally fall under our ship
          And then refer to the notorious force majeure.
          No Witnesses Anyway
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 20: 10
            -2
            No need to invent fairy tales, this is not Hollywood. Our specialists are not made with a finger, there are no mines there, saboteurs will not pass and will not emerge.

            But the protection is needed. Then they will not turn up, there will be no provocations and sabotage.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 23
              -2
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              No need to invent fairy tales, this is not Hollywood.

              I didn’t seem to argue about the mine. I said a sneak always can be put
              saboteurs will not pass and will not emerge.

              Who will stop them?
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 11 February 2020 20: 48
                0
                Who will stop them?


                Cheburashka and Crocodile Gene, what do you think? laughing
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 11 February 2020 20: 55
                  +1
                  I think no one
          2. major147
            major147 11 February 2020 21: 12
            0
            Quote: Lipchanin
            You can always make a trick.

            Ships with anchor positioning are not allowed to lay pipes due to the flooding of chemical and other weapons in those waters in large quantities. It's easy to tweak something.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 11 February 2020 21: 36
              0
              Quote: major147
              due to the flooding in those waters of chemical and other weapons in large quantities.

              I didn’t know about it
              Just sure that if the state went against the construction, they will be able to do anything
  8. impostor
    impostor 11 February 2020 18: 35
    +5
    Along with 161-FZ, there must be a Federal Law "On the material responsibility of effective"
  9. anjey
    anjey 11 February 2020 18: 40
    +4
    The Russian company Gazprom announced the launch of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline at the end of this year. Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Energy Alexander Novak said the same, who said that the pipeline would be completed despite the pressure of some countries, in particular the USA.
    This is our opinion - the kid said, the kid did, the promises of GDP to raise the standard of living and the common people of Russia would still come true, that would be positive for the rest of my life laughing ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 11 February 2020 18: 42
      +1
      Just said so far
      1. Lamata
        Lamata 11 February 2020 19: 54
        -2
        But he’s the most kid boy.
  10. paul3390
    paul3390 11 February 2020 18: 43
    +8
    Something of our type "effective managers" every year more and more mows. And the guarantor said that these are super-qualified specialists who, if they do not pay a billion a month, would be immediately snatched up by foreign concerns .. Funny? Yes, somehow not very much. Because the number of jambs at all levels of government is slowly becoming simply catastrophic ..
  11. AlexG83
    AlexG83 11 February 2020 18: 45
    +3
    It was necessary to create the appearance that "the evil Russians forced the completion of the remaining section at gunpoint." And fit 1-2 warships for the background, so to speak.
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 11 February 2020 18: 51
      -2
      AlexG83 - then the porters, when our warships appeared through the pipeline home, would run away!
  12. Guards turn
    Guards turn 11 February 2020 18: 53
    +5
    Gazprom - the impression that you take an example from Ukraine (the main thing is to shout, and then come what may). We must do everything quietly and silently, there is no need for these loud reports.
  13. Vladimir Mashkov
    Vladimir Mashkov 11 February 2020 18: 57
    -1
    And "Academician Chersky" is already approaching Tsushima ...
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 12 February 2020 19: 10
      0
      And the Akademik Chersky, walking slowly, is now almost in the Tsushima Strait. It is not clear who is minus my message and why. Maybe someone misunderstands it?
  14. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 11 February 2020 19: 05
    0
    It would seem where does this news?
    "MOSCOW, February 11. Relocation of the Sea Launch floating cosmodrome from the port of Long Beach in the USA, California, to the Slavyansk shipyard in Primorye will begin on February 22, a source in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti."
  15. Erich
    Erich 11 February 2020 19: 07
    0
    Can it happen that this ship will not be allowed to complete the pipe?
  16. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 11 February 2020 19: 09
    +4
    The launch of the Russian Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline is scheduled for the end of 2020, follows from the presentation of Gazprom, released by investor day.

    in the summer on the site I was terribly mined for such a thing and even called all sorts of different indecent
  17. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 11 February 2020 19: 16
    +3
    And if they could finish it in a month, read directly the threats of amers.
  18. Victor March 47
    Victor March 47 11 February 2020 19: 23
    0
    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    Quote: Victor_B
    More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

    But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

    I think the performance is still ahead. And the amount of the fine will still be calculated, and it depends on the losses, deadlines for completion and costs. It's too early to talk about it now.
  19. impostor
    impostor 11 February 2020 19: 31
    -1
    Write sho Turpotok can redirect to the joint venture. The Taming of the Shrew? Then you won’t envy the tomatoes in Idlib ...
  20. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 11 February 2020 20: 13
    -4
    Kirdyk will soon be these "effective managers". Again, the loot will be pulled over.
  21. 123456789
    123456789 11 February 2020 20: 20
    +2
    It’s time for the project to change manager
  22. ustinov.yuri
    ustinov.yuri 11 February 2020 20: 22
    +2
    About 30% of the shares of the "public domain" belong to the American investor. This is the reason for the sluggish and belated sanctions. Financial analysts say it takes 1,5 to 2 years to gain access to a controlling stake. Almost all aluminum (over 90%) is already owned by the United States. There is a process of selling energy. Guys, our grandchildren will not have anything, including the country.
    1. old friend
      old friend 11 February 2020 20: 48
      +3
      something can belong to someone who owns a controlling stake (and even then not always). The rest - have the right to receive dividends and take part in management (without a blocking vote).
      Financial analysts say it takes 1,5 to 2 years to gain access to a controlling stake.

      from 1.5 to 2 years ??? You better not spread this nonsense. You can only get to a controlling stake in 1 way - if the current owner wants it - the state. This is impossible, at least until the power changes.
      1. ustinov.yuri
        ustinov.yuri 11 February 2020 21: 30
        +6
        That is why the current government will sit until the full sale of everything and everyone. Remember how the state was poured. money in banks, supposedly for stabilization. And help to “poor oligarchs” because of sanctions? How much was presented to Deripaska and Russian Cars? Whose are PM and aluminum now? I hope you remember that the United States ate it for 5 months?
  23. ANB
    ANB 11 February 2020 20: 58
    0
    Quote: Victor_B
    More than once the Americans will shit under the door!
    Lots and lots!
    They just got a taste.
    Denmark, in fact, lured the highway into its waters, and Gazprom could go around, the pipelayers would also leave, but the work could be continued from any barges.
    In general, "saving" on the route has already cost more.

    Yes, there is no route there without Denmark.
  24. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 11 February 2020 22: 26
    0
    "The security service of Gazprom is not working well." "Academician Chersky" could have arrived at the "place of events" in advance ...
    1. old friend
      old friend 12 February 2020 14: 35
      0
      Chersky was supposed to be in the Baltic at the very beginning and participate in the work, IMHO. At the same time, the team would have gained experience. And now the Baltic season is the storm season. Perhaps this is why they are not in a hurry. At the end of spring they will begin and by autumn they will finish. With such weather and gas consumption in Europe, there is nothing special to rush.
  25. iouris
    iouris 11 February 2020 22: 37
    0
    Gazprom "told" - Gazprom did. Only sometimes they don't guess the timing.
  26. Brturin
    Brturin 11 February 2020 23: 27
    +1
    News ... "Of course, the completion of construction will be postponed for several months. But I hope that by the end of this year, or in the first quarter of next year, the work will be completed and the gas pipeline will start working" - Putin (11.01), "According to the results of my conversations with Miller I can say that the implementation of the project should be completed and its launch should take place at the end of 2020 or at the latest in the first quarter of 2021" - German Ambassador to Russia Geza Andreas von Geyr (January 31.01). Here it is again... Shell Representative in Russia Cederik Kremers (17.01) - "We believe that pipeline transport has advantages, so we support the project. The sanctions that have been introduced - yes, they affect the project. They are reason that the project may indeed be delayed for some time." .Head of the Austrian OMV Rainer Seele (06.02) - "The project operator, Nord Stream 2, is working on a plan, but they are not yet ready to present this plan... We do not think that in the short term the construction of the pipeline will be resumed. "I hope that this plan will appear soon and the situation will be clarified, but for now ...
  27. paco.soto
    paco.soto 12 February 2020 05: 40
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    After re-reading it several times, I was horrified by this text !, similar to nonsense, not worthy of being on VO
    With a supposedly face of professor Preobrazhensky: "who stood on whom" ?!
  28. Cheerock
    Cheerock 12 February 2020 17: 36
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    Quote: Pete Mitchell
    Quote: Victor_B
    More than once the Americans will shit under the door! Lots and lots! They just got a taste.

    But it’s wildly interesting for me: runaways and those who did not do the job, is there a legal way to punish and demand compensation? The contract is drawn up competently or so, on the fingers without the responsibility of the parties

    As a rule, in international contracts there is a Force Majeure clause, which lists the conditions under which the parties are exempted from the contract. A typical clause in contracts looks like this:

    Should any circumstances in the country of the producer of the goods producing or in the country of the Buyer of the goods arise preventing either party from complete or partial fulfillment of its obligations under present Contract, namely: fire, acts of elements, war, military operations of any nature, blockades, strikes or labor disagreements of strike charter, prohibition / hindrance of export and / or import, government juridical acts preventing performing the obligations under the present Contract shall be extended for a period equal to that during which such circumstances and contingencies continue to be in force.
    Should these continue circumstances to be in force for more than 30 days, either party hereto shall have the right to renounce any further fulfillment of the obligations under the present Contract. In this case, neither party shall be entitled to make any demand upon the other party for compensation or penalty.
    The party for whom it becomes impossible to fulfill its obligations under this contract shall immediately advise the other party of the beginning and cessation of the circumstances preventing the execution of its obligation.
    Certificate issued by Chamber of Commerce and Industry of Buyer's or Seller's country shall be sufficient proof of such contingencies and their duration.
    If any dispute, ICC 421 will be used for the settlement of the force majeure.

    I think that since there is silence on the air about a showdown with All Seas, then the case is recognized as force majeure.
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