Russian military bases abroad: reflections on a possible presence on distant shores

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On Sunday, the Akademik Chersky pipe-layer left the port of Nakhodka. It is stated that the ship is heading to Singapore, where it is expected on February 22. The further route of the Academician Chersky is not known, although it is easy to assume that the pipelayer is going to the Baltic to complete the construction of the Nord Stream 2.

Soviet history made me think


Such caution by the shipowner indicates that the hike will not be easy. Experts predict him a number of difficulties, including the passage of straits controlled by unfriendly Russian countries.



Previously, in such cases, when important government tasks were carried out, support for civil the fleet rendered military sailors. Now in the far sea zone the presence of Russian ships is extremely limited, and the fleet bases on the foreign coast are almost lost.

You can, of course, recall the Vietnamese Kamran, the Syrian Tartus, transformed into a base from a supply point ... However, even these facilities are still far from full-fledged naval bases abroad. And the need for them, as we see, is.

There are disputes about Russian military bases in foreign territory in terms of whether we need a permanent presence on long shores or not.

Many believe that the existing facilities, located mainly in the countries of the former USSR (Armenia, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan), are insufficient. Examples are given from the Soviet era, when the country had only aviation bases on the planet with half a dozen (from Cuba - to Ethiopia and Vietnam). The navy at different times possessed a dozen foreign bases (in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, etc.)

It seems that the debate is not only among the uninitiated public. The Russian authorities were exploring the possibility of deploying their base points, for example, in Venezuela and Nicaragua. In the winter of 2015, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu made a significant trip to the countries of Central and Latin America, at once covering Nicaragua, Cuba and Venezuela.

The media then emphasized the military-technical cooperation of Russia with these countries. But there were some nuances. In Managua, the project for the construction of a shipping channel from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean was being considered with might and main.

To build a canal, the Chinese wished. Russia, as the media wrote then, was supposed to ensure the safety of the canal during construction and operation. For various reasons, the project was frozen. Affected by political instability in Nicaragua, where the pros and cons of America divided the nation in approximately two.

And Russia and China were not ready for a confrontation with the United States. (And in Washington, only in this way they considered the manifestation of the interests of Moscow and Beijing in their "underbelly"). In a word, the visit of Shoigu did not have big consequences, at least the Ministry of Defense did not receive a point for basing its forces in Nicaragua.

Cooperation with Venezuela has developed more successfully. Our strategic bombers repeatedly flew here, warships, including the Peter the Great, a heavy nuclear missile cruiser. The death of President Hugo Chavez slowed down cooperation with this country. However, the interests of Russia and its business in Venezuela remained.

The above examples, or rather the events that occurred, were open to society. They stimulated the creative thought of experts, observers and just lovers of lure. There were suggestions on the web where people interested in the topic would like to see Russian military bases abroad.

A quick look at the world map


Such countries, in addition to the existing points of the Russian military base abroad, are one and a half dozen. From the Central American named here to the African Libya, Sudan and the Central African Republic.

Most experts showed restraint. They did not swing so widely. Limited to the countries of Central America, South Asia and the Horn of Africa. Djibouti has already hosted the “military international”. The United States, China, France, Italy and Japan have base points in the ports of this small state in eastern Africa. Russian warships patrolling the Gulf of Aden in the fight against sea pirates also drop into Djibouti.

So at this point the interests of various countries intertwined. Russia must certainly be present in such nodes in order to ensure the security of its communications, the work of domestic business, and political and humanitarian activities.

It turns out that the question of military bases abroad is not only for speculative exercises. With the strengthening of Russia, the expansion of the sphere of its interests, the authorities will have to provide them, including using their power structures. Then the question of military bases abroad will gain its new meaning.

In the meantime, we will hold our fists for the crew of the Academician Chersky, so that he fulfills the task that prompted this specialized vessel to sail so far.
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  1. +2
    11 February 2020 18: 35
    In the meantime, we will hold our fists for the crew of the Academician Chersky, so that he fulfills the task,
    Fists should be kept not behind the back or in the pockets, but in front of the noses of the "partners". Was it difficult to escort the corvette? The pipe is an extremely important task for the state.
    1. -1
      11 February 2020 18: 56
      Does someone block existing pipes? In Europe, interruptions in the supply of Russian gas?
      1. -1
        11 February 2020 21: 59
        Do you propose to feed Ukraine further?
  2. -3
    11 February 2020 18: 35
    here it would be to deal with the near coast of Poland and the base in the "union" state, to which the Smolensk region must be driven.

    .
  3. +22
    11 February 2020 18: 37
    Soviet history made me think

    Soviet history makes us think for a long time ... because in comparison with the miserable history of today, any sane person understands that today the road to nowhere .. The problem is that few today allow the deployment of bases abroad and it’s very expensive, given our weakness economics. First you need to start developing industry, science, pharmacology, electronics .. and then follow in the footsteps of the USSR, or rather the best, you just need to return, including ideology ..
    1. -13
      11 February 2020 18: 39
      for in comparison with the miserable history of today

      there was no history before the USSR and after in Russia. According to emo communists. 70 years of Russian history (along with Gorbachev)

      Liberda aside smokes quietly
      1. +13
        11 February 2020 18: 43
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        there was no history before the USSR and after in Russia. According to emo communists

        Petrov welcome!
        Here is your previous comment was indicative laughing
        here it would be to deal with the near coast of Poland and the base in the "union" state, to which the Smolensk region must be driven.

        You confirm with this comment the miserable current state of Russia in comparison with the USSR ..
        On this story was and will be .. but the question is whether you are proud of it .. and which one, today's or the one that was during the USSR ..
        You are a patriot ... tell me what you can be proud of now?
        1. -9
          11 February 2020 18: 45
          You confirm with this comment the miserable current state of Russia in comparison with the USSR ..


          it is only in your imagination. Not the most stormy. I know that there will be no border between Belarus and the Russian Federation and Ukraine, no matter how the Svidomo patriots of Ukraine and the Zmagars whimper about it

          You are a patriot ... tell me what you can be proud of now?


          I am such a patriot who is proud of the history of his great country, regardless of the signs that hang above it. I’m proud that the Empire was bending all kinds of independence patriots, before the Empire Russia did it, the USSR did the same, so does my Russian

          I do not limit myself to the scope. And I’m not proud from 9 a.m. to conditional 18 p.m. Or not proud of 70 years, throwing away millennia.

          Leave yourself such painful moments)

          1. +14
            11 February 2020 18: 56
            I do not limit myself to the scope. And I’m not proud from 9 a.m. to conditional 18 p.m. Or not proud of 70 years, throwing away millennia.

            Here is your honesty captivating laughing you would make a good communist .. honesty and justice - it costs a lot .. and actually distinguishes a person from an animal .. Animals do not think and do not know about justice.
            That is, on the merits of the question, you have nothing to answer .. as well as nothing to be proud of now .. But a citizen of the USSR was proud of his country.
            So why are you against the socialists?
            and yes, now it’s already 18:57 Moscow time laughing
            1. -10
              11 February 2020 19: 01
              you would make a good communist ..


              maybe then the Communists (and no one else) would have let the USSR down into the pipe if there were savvy in their ranks

              That is, you have nothing to answer on the merits ..


              I am proud of how the Russian Federation stopped in BV, gutted the radicals who slaughtered Christians and a coalition of 60 states whined about it fervently

              There are many such examples. But why do you need it? Platoshkin, Zyuganov and Svarog with Gardamir - not a single plant built in 30 years

              So why are you against the socialists?


              Is it because I put down emo communists here?

              And a citizen of the USSR was proud of his country.


              therefore, it was without any enemies or external attacks
              1. -8
                11 February 2020 19: 48
                The Grudinians do not like that something is being built in Russia, not for this they handed it over to Am.
              2. +8
                11 February 2020 20: 07
                with Gardamir - not a single plant was built in 30 years
                Well, why not built. Pipe production plants to oil and gas. Download For the production of cement. Build not what you need. and that’s where the profit immediately drops into your pocket. Only am I talking about construction. Listen to what people laugh at
                1. -1
                  12 February 2020 11: 30
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  Pipe production plants to oil and gas. sway

                  Oh, and the hopak Gromyko at an exhibition in Hannover in front of the Germans while pushing the idea of ​​the Gas-Pipe contract - what was that? Ah ... I forgot that the USSR was not on the oil and gas needle, I beg your pardon!
        2. -9
          11 February 2020 18: 58
          The fact that the revival of the military power of Russia began.
    2. +4
      11 February 2020 19: 08
      Quote: Svarog
      Soviet history, long makes you think

      And there is something to think about ...
      After Stalin's death, Khrushchev "pushed the fleet" into the background. Only thanks to the activities of the Soviet admirals, Kuznetsov and Gorshkov, the Soviet Navy was able to reach the oceanic expanses, and by the end of the 80s became one of the most powerful in the world.
      Now we can only
      hold his fists for the crew of the Academician Chersky so that he fulfills the task that prompted this specialized vessel to sail so far.

      and hope that the situation with our Navy will change for the better and that we will again have a powerful Navy.
      1. 0
        12 February 2020 11: 33
        Quote: Arlen
        Only thanks to the activities of the Soviet admirals, Kuznetsov and Gorshkov, the Soviet Navy managed to reach the ocean

        To be honest, it was only thanks to Khrushchev that if the Caribbean crisis had not been tortured by him and his visit to Egypt, the USSR would not have had an ocean fleet!
    3. +1
      12 February 2020 10: 31
      Quote: Svarog
      The problem is that few today allow the deployment of bases abroad and it is very expensive, given the weakness of our economy.

      Vladimir, do you understand the very concept of placing bases abroad? So you personally need a base, well, let's say in Aden?
      Quote: Svarog
      all the best, you just need to return, including ideology ..

      What is the best thing? I’m talking about bases, not about retirement!
      1. +5
        12 February 2020 10: 38
        Quote: Serg65
        What is the best thing? I’m talking about bases, not about retirement!

        Own industry, science, pharmacology, electronics .. before placing the bases, we must be self-sufficient and independent .. And it is clear that at the same time, we will be richer, which will allow us to place the bases .. And bases abroad if necessary, then to protect shipping trade routes or protect investments and to divert the enemy’s forces, well, in the case of Cuba, for a symmetrical US response .. The delivery time of warheads is greatly reduced and this is a great time for bargaining ..
        1. -1
          12 February 2020 11: 22
          Quote: Svarog
          we must be self-sufficient and independent

          Hm! We have not been self-sufficient for 100 years ....
          By the way ... the USSR never had naval bases abroad! wink
          1. +5
            12 February 2020 11: 27
            Quote: Serg65
            By the way ... the USSR never had naval bases abroad!

            https://topwar.ru/27392-set-zarubezhnyh-baz-vmf-sssr.html
            Take a closer look ..
            Hm! We have not been self-sufficient for 100 years ....

            In terms of resources, we are self-sufficient, both human and natural .. but in terms of self-sufficiency of consumer goods, light industry, machine and machine tools building .. electronics, pharmaceutical industry .. -there is trouble ..
            1. -1
              12 February 2020 11: 43
              Quote: Svarog
              Take a closer look ..

              Volodya, my soul, and what should I watch? PMTO were, but there were no bases! The difference between the base and the PMTO is huge! Tartus and Sakotra visited repeatedly!
              Quote: Svarog
              but in terms of self-sufficiency of consumer goods, light industry, machine and machine tool building .. electronics, pharmaceutical industry

              Well, what are our years, the situation now makes us go to self-sufficiency ... the market will amiably give birth to offers!
              1. +5
                12 February 2020 12: 23
                Quote: Serg65
                Well, what are our years, the situation now makes us go to self-sufficiency ... the market will amiably give birth to offers!

                For 30 years the market can’t give birth to anything .. it makes you wonder whether the market dictates the conditions or scientific thought .. and the right organization .. During the same period and in much more difficult conditions, under Stalin the USSR demonstrated much more serious economic indicators ..
                I do not believe that demand is everything. Marketers are also imposing demand on the domestic market, there has long been a demand for all that we are pulling from China ... but there are no movements, which means the market does not determine anything. So we will be a raw materials appendage ..
  4. 0
    11 February 2020 18: 39
    And what are the straits and unfriendly countries?
    1. -1
      11 February 2020 18: 43
      Danish Straits, English Channel. Which countries control these straits soldier
      1. -1
        11 February 2020 18: 53
        Well, he will pass them calmly, without problems, and sure that the Baltic Fleet’s ships will come closer to the meeting ... maybe someone knows the question, but is it faster on the Northern Sea Route ... a couple of our nuclear-powered icebreakers or in winter and they’re not able to handle ice?
        1. -2
          11 February 2020 18: 55
          Kgm, that’s what I don’t know and don’t know, maybe his corps doesn’t even allow you to go along the channel pierced by the icebreaker.
        2. -2
          11 February 2020 18: 56
          a pair of atomic icebreakers of ours or in winter and they can’t cope with the ice?


          terms would burn - and nuclear-powered ships would be allocated. So they do not see the risks and reasons, to increase the cost of an already expensive project, accompanied by several nuclear-powered ships. I think a couple of weeks are not worth it drinks

          1. 0
            11 February 2020 21: 19
            I look at you minus those minusYers (I apologize for the tautology) who are trying by all means to save the Bandera GTS. drinks
            1. +1
              12 February 2020 10: 41
              I look at you minus those minusYory


              this is the cost of Svidomo Ukrainians (Georgia, Baltic States) on the site. It’s necessary to fight with Moscow. Or do you think the Poles offended are not registered here? Or among the local sad few? Yes their legion



              Well, the local support group of the sternin / tyutukin criminal is pseudo-one - they orgasm together with Svidomo and spit ridiculous comments on the Russian girl.

              In general, these minuses are like honey for me. My Great Russian chauvinism is amusing.

              Even when they press the minus, they still bravely tolerate Moscow, the Kremlin and Putin and the "vatniks". And they will continue to endure - as they have endured for the full 20 years. This is the quality of the material that this dull tribe of patient characters is made of. Let's not take the last away from them - cons on topvar

              drinks
    2. +1
      11 February 2020 20: 20
      I think there will be an unspoken accompaniment in any case. Well, the fact that "the cast is removed" and "everything is gone", we hear for more than one year. But suddenly, out of nowhere, a modern Russian army appeared, which they began to seriously reckon with. I would like to say to the "all-propals" - "Slightly slower than the horses" ...
  5. +1
    11 February 2020 18: 46
    What are the possible problems in international straits in relation to a purely civilian commercial vessel?
    1. -5
      11 February 2020 18: 55
      Recall Yugoslavia, Libya, Grenada. and this is not the court and the state were.
      1. -5
        11 February 2020 21: 38
        Here, agents of the State Department appeared, minus the truth laughing
        1. +1
          12 February 2020 11: 37
          Quote: Lamata
          Here, agents of the State Department appeared, minus the truth

          Oh, the truth is worse for you than grated horseradish!
      2. +1
        12 February 2020 11: 37
        Quote: Lamata
        Recall Yugoslavia, Libya, Grenada

        And ancient Rome, ancient Rome forgotten! laughing
        Although how your brethren here spread the topic of an attack on a pipe layer, then most likely an order for a provocation has already been received .. what
  6. +1
    11 February 2020 19: 09
    The giraffe is big! I hope that everything is clearly visible to him from above?
    Again, I hope the skull has everything that should be there.
  7. +4
    11 February 2020 19: 39
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Fists should be kept not behind the back or in the pockets, but in front of the noses of the "partners". Was it difficult to escort the corvette? The pipe is an extremely important task for the state.

    Corvette? From the Far East to the Baltic? You will need a tanker and a tug at least. Is there something that threatens "Akademik Chersky"?
    The fact that "Akademik" went to Singapore - there is nothing conspiratorial about it. If he goes to the Baltic, then this is a completely understandable route. And here is the author's phrase

    Such caution by the shipowner indicates that the hike will not be easy. Experts predict him a number of difficulties, including the passage of straits controlled by unfriendly Russian countries.

    This already smacks of persecution mania at best. Which countries can prohibit the passage of the straits? The two straits that Akademik will pass outside the zone of our presence are the Singapore and Malacca straits. All. In the area of ​​the Red Sea, there are usually Russian warships (this is if they go through Suez). Or Spain will block Gibraltar and Britain the English Channel?
    1. -3
      11 February 2020 20: 02
      It already smells like a persecution mania at best. Which countries can prohibit the passage of straits?

      How can small children - simply refuse to enter the port, refuel and replenish fresh water and food for the crew - by announcing sanctions to all ports and countries where our ship Akademik Chersky will go? And they immediately disown him, like a leper.
      Didn't such a thought occur to you? )))
      1. +2
        11 February 2020 23: 19
        and how will this corvette help?
  8. +3
    11 February 2020 19: 46
    At first it would not hurt to fill their internal bases with equipment and appropriate infrastructure, and then deploy around the world.
    1. 0
      11 February 2020 23: 40
      Quote: Professor Preobrazhensky
      At first it would not hurt to fill their internal bases with equipment and appropriate infrastructure, and then deploy around the world.

      It does not interfere! hi
  9. 0
    11 February 2020 19: 48
    In Egypt (until 1972), the Soviet Navy used the Sidi-Barrani base, 100 km from the border with Libya.
    There is also the opportunity to place an air base. Maghreb and the Middle East however.
  10. +1
    11 February 2020 21: 01
    The creation of such basing points implies a quantitative and qualitative growth of the fleet, which we do not seem to have expected. Otherwise, the point will be, and the ships will have to be based there, which are already not enough to defend their own borders. Accordingly, such a point would also have to be protected at a sufficient level - now, according to Khmeimim, it’s clear that those who want to spoil us are not asleep and very inventive .. In general, this is all a good idea, but it definitely goes along with a further increase in defense spending and qualitatively / quantitatively with larger fleet construction. And this, in turn, is tied to the breakthrough in the economy, which we_ already_ promise_ long ago. Well, apparently when it happens, then it will make sense in bases on distant shores .. but not yet.
  11. +2
    11 February 2020 21: 08
    Quote: lucul
    It already smells like a persecution mania at best. Which countries can prohibit the passage of straits?

    How can small children - simply refuse to enter the port, refuel and replenish fresh water and food for the crew - by announcing sanctions to all ports and countries where our ship Akademik Chersky will go? And they immediately disown him, like a leper.
    Didn't such a thought occur to you? )))

    Who will be able to announce sanctions to all ports? Do this against a civilian ship? Or the same India uses sanctions. And why would he go somewhere. Cruising range of almost 19 thousand miles. Stocks will replenish in 12 days in Singapore, if necessary. Ahead of India. Or will Egypt close Suez for us? On what basis? Maybe Spain will close Gibraltar ???
    1. -1
      11 February 2020 22: 19
      Who will be able to announce sanctions to all ports?

      Have you fallen from the moon? The Americans have already announced sanctions to all countries that will purchase gas from Nord Stream-2, wake up.
      And why would he go somewhere.

      Stocks of fresh water and provisions - usually they are enough on board for 15-30 days. This is not a tanker carrying food ....
  12. -1
    11 February 2020 21: 42
    "Akademik" must be accompanied by warships.
  13. -2
    11 February 2020 21: 47
    Russia has always grown by land. We do not need to think about overseas bases, but how to make our environment loyal. This is the main "geopolitical" task. Otherwise, it remains to take off the trousers from Belarus and the Armenians will remain with the Mongols.
  14. +1
    11 February 2020 22: 56
    Quote: lucul
    Have you fallen from the moon? The Americans have already announced sanctions to all countries that will purchase gas from Nord Stream-2, wake up.

    Dear Vitaly, you fell from the moon. You equate the purchase of gas by other countries (the US can put pressure on them and force them to refuse to buy gas, and even then it can not force all countries. And to impose sanctions on several dozen countries for entering their ports of a civilian vessel. our submarine of the Varshavyanka project was fueled in Ceuta, opposite the base in Gibraltar, and nothing. No sanctions. And then they will announce sanctions to a dozen countries? Well, what if Akademik goes to replenish stocks in Tartus? They will also announce sanctions, this time Syria? It is not necessary to invent hypothetical and most importantly fantastic situations.
  15. +1
    11 February 2020 23: 34
    with Camranho, the author seems to have gotten a little excited
    Vietnamese position known
    On October 12, 2016, an official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Vietnam, Le Hai Binh, stated that “we will not join military alliances or alliances against third countries,” adding that Vietnam will not allow the deployment of any foreign military bases on its territory [10].

    Vietnamese Ambassador to Russia Nguyen Thanh Sean.
    - The policy of Vietnam is not to join military alliances or to ally with one state against another. In this context, the implementation of Kamrani ports for multilateral international cooperation in order to provide maritime transport services, ship repair and the development of military equipment to ensure peace and stability in the region is an appropriate direction, the diplomat noted.

    In my opinion, this is not the same thing as the Russian naval base with reserves and other things.
    before that there was an agreement
    On November 12, 2013, during the Russian-Vietnamese talks at the highest level, an agreement was signed between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Vietnamese President Cheong Tan Shang to establish a joint base for servicing and repairing submarines in Kamrani [

    but, it seems, the Vietnamese see it as their base, for their boats in the first place, they’re standing there like
    Meanwhile, Kamran sharply becomes a large center of tourism, hotels are massively built.
    They opened an international airport, ships and ships of other countries are allowed into the bay.
    they’re unlikely to give it to the base
    hi
  16. +1
    12 February 2020 00: 36
    We really need bases if we have interests in all corners of the planet. But Chersky still needs to be escorted, the United States promised to detain him.
    1. 0
      12 February 2020 05: 04
      The US promised to detain him.

      And where can I read about it?
  17. +1
    12 February 2020 01: 08
    Bases are good when there are clearly articulated interests in the regions, and an understanding of how to achieve them.
    And, let me ask you a question, what will the Navy (since speaking of the Navy) operate from these bases?
    At this stage: "not a hat for Senka."

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