Officers and warrant officers will be banned from concluding annual contracts

Officers and warrant officers serving in the Armed Forces of Russia under the contract will be further banned from concluding one-year contracts, offering to sign an agreement for a period of 3 to 10 years. This proposal is contained in a new government bill adopted by the State Duma on February 11 in the first reading.

The new bill amends article 38 of the law "On Military Duty and Military Service." In particular, the document proposes to restrict for officers and warrant officers (warrant officers) serving on a contract the right to conclude a contract for a period of one year. Instead, it is proposed to conclude contracts for a period of 3 years (lower limit) to 10 (upper limit). In addition, there are contracts for an indefinite period, i.e. until reaching the age limit for military service.

The adoption of this bill is due to an increase in the number of annual contracts concluded, especially by young officers, the developers of the document explain.

The new bill does not affect the rules for concluding a contract for ordinary and sergeant personnel, as well as military personnel who are in military service beyond the age limit for military service.

Comments

[Gardamir]

How so? They promised democracy, liberalism, and then bans. If you return totalitarianism, then return the Soviet power.

[vladcub]

Actually, military service and liberalism are fried snow! It is enough to recall the story of what will happen if they begin to liberalize. The most obvious example: the RIA even in March 1917 was a significant force, and A. F. Kerensky patched up everything that the army turned into an armed herd. Then demanded that the soldiers fought
Remember, Andrei from Chelyabinsk told what was in the fleet in the spring of 1917?
PS. I apologize: in March1917 the army was no longer called the imperial.

[lis-ik]

Everything is simple. When concluding a contract, I think the amount of payments is determined. And since we have inflation (permanent), it is naturally beneficial for the Moscow Region to fix the official salary, etc. for the entire service life.

[carstorm 11]

MO does not fix it. salaries are changed by government decree. The Ministry of Defense is preparing a draft government decree providing for an increase of 1% in salaries for military personnel and employees of some federal authorities from October 2020, 3. A notice of this has been published on the portal of draft regulatory legal acts. an increase in minimum terms is a common thing in any department. in this case, the annual contracts allowed leaving, while the MO spent money on training and so on. and a man could leave without doing anything. One-year contracts were initially made for hot spots and other special tasks. it's time to change it and that's it)

[lis-ik]

I agree. I completely forgot my service at the Central Federal University with my business.

[carstorm 11]

Yes, I somehow forgot too much already))) this is normal.

[2 Level Advisor]

The article is mainly about the young .. And if the young officer is confident in his desire to serve the motherland, he will not imprison for a year, and if he is not sure and thinks if he should leave, should he be kept? But is such an officer needed who wants to blame and serve perfectly, definitely will not? But what about those who didn’t have enough years of service for 1-2 years, now it’s a fact to re-serve ..

[Sergey79]

Everything is very simple. Look at the statistics on retired in 20-25 calendars. And you will be horrified ... Officers in 37-42 years "flee" from the Armed Forces. And this is due to distrust. There are many different bad rumors about changes in legislation. Especially when it comes to retirement. For example, changing the age limit, or pension payments from 65 years. There are many examples.

[Glory1974]

Officers in 37-42 years "flee" from the Armed Forces. And this is due to distrust. There are many different bad rumors about the change in legislation.

I agree with you.
Experience shows that legislation changes only for the worse for the service side.
He left for these reasons. Those who quit after me still have not received housing, and some have lost the right to receive it.

[Old Michael]

for those for whom 1-2 years of service were not enough, now to re-serve is a fact ..

Limiters and limiters will not affect:

contracts remain for an indefinite period, i.e. until reaching the age limit for military service.

The new bill does not affect the rules for concluding a contract for ... military personnel serving in excess of the age limit for military service.

[2 Level Advisor]

ok .. then why? young forcibly held, who can escape? But do they need such an army?

[Glory1974]

young forcibly held, who can escape? But do they need such an army?

It is possible as before, in the Soviet Union - if you want, you don’t want, but you must serve 25 years.
And it is possible under the contract to serve a certain period. But here it is already necessary to do some kind of preferences so that a person serves and suffers the deprivation of military service.
Which is easier? The question is rhetorical. Deny resignation regardless of the conditions of service, in fact, return to the recruitment recruitment: he got into the army and rammed 25 years before the demobilization. Where is the service more effective?

[2 Level Advisor]

I completely agree .. at the beginning of the 00s, after a 5-year post-graduate contract, 4 out of 5 left our unit, and that - because earlier than 5 years later, even those who played in the top ten were not fired (every 10 days I went to the service to do not get under the Criminal Code), but how the situation returned to normal, one in five began to leave .. did the people really "run" again?

[Glory1974]

in the mid-90s, lieutenants wrote reports on dismissal right in the districts, refusing to go to the units after school.
Now the situation is simpler, but people are fleeing. Changes to the law are introduced almost every month. The media do not write about this, but they read the orders on the readings. At the same time, it is impossible to immediately calculate the consequences of changes, but as a rule, only for the worse.
Persistently rumor has it that the military will cancel the pension. That is, you will be able to receive it only when you reach 65 years of age, as a civilian, and when you leave your job at the age of 45-50, go work.

[Severok]

This does not take into account either the state of health or length of service in regions with adverse conditions of service (remoteness, climatic conditions, highlands). And for health reasons, a command was secretly given in all executive bodies where military service is provided, not to dismiss. Only at the end of the contract, length of service, etc., but not for health.

In general, everything is for the people, at any time of the year. That's just not the good of civilization and the achievement of socialism.

[Ros 56]

In fact, the right decision in terms of combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces. The defense of the country should be handled by professionals, not day laborers.

[Alexga]

Wild is all this. In my time, they chose this profession for life. Although, new times and new defenders, probably.

[carstorm 11]

there is nothing wild in contracts) is just another system. as one man said, one must go to the army only to those who do not represent anything else in life. they always kept on and will continue.

[Alexga]

Dmitry, your man said very correct words, I fully support him!

[kenig1]

In your time, officers did not jump into rented apartments, there was no inflation, there were no problems with kindergartens. Now they sit at video conferences all day, and in the evening they set tasks, they need to complete tasks during the night and that the slides would be ready for the morning conference.

[carstorm 11]

C'mon?))) I’ll say with my parents I jumped into office apartments. his was not. it’s cool to live with two children in odnushka-Khrushchev, and even the official truth?)

[Alexga]

Yes, we all had service housing. After retirement by age, privatized.

[Piramidon]

Quote: AlexGa

Yes, we all had service housing. After retirement by age, privatized.

What a blessing to have a privatized apartment in a godforsaken garrison, with a dozen residential buildings.

[Alexga]

As far as I heard from my colleagues in Russia, housing certificates were issued there with certain choices of the future residence. For example, having graduated from service in Ulan-Uda, he received an apartment in Kovrov. But more precisely pensioners of the Russian army will tell you.

[Piramidon]

Quote: AlexGa

As far as I heard from my colleagues in Russia, housing certificates were issued there with certain choices of the future residence. For example, having graduated from service in Ulan-Uda, he received an apartment in Kovrov. But more precisely pensioners of the Russian army will tell you.

In 1991, after being fired, I still managed to get a warrant for an apartment, not a certificate. But those who received certificates after that had to pay extra in order to become the owner of a more or less decent apartment. My colleague, according to the certificate (without additional payment), was able to purchase an apartment in the "Khrushchev" house, built in 1972. The certificate was not enough for something better. True, this is in the region. center. Perhaps, in some district settlement, one could count on something better.

[Alexga]

And now, as you have, too, is it left or have you come up with something more perfect?

[Piramidon]

Quote: AlexGa

And now, as you have, too, is it left or have you come up with something more perfect?

Until the middle of the XNUMXs, it was all the same, but with those who later quit, I no longer contacted.

[kenig1]

Well, I hopped through 9 cities, a month at a rented or dormitory, and later on, an office apartment was introduced.

[Alexga]

It was also not sweet, the wives did not work, they served in very wild places, there were no kindergartens. But to say that the state does not solve your everyday problems, I could not say even while serving in ZabVO. Regarding your second remark, I will say this: I don’t think it is normal for a state that makes its defenders have an idea where to live with their family and how to feed this family. We were all once young lieutenants, and as it was then difficult.

[BISMARCK94]

Now they sit all day at video conferences, and in the evening tasks are set, tasks must be completed during the night, and slides would be ready for the morning conference.

Directly described by Russian Railways))

[lis-ik]

In my time, the officer even had an apartment in the GSVG, approximately like a modern five-story building, they didn’t pay for it at all, it was DOS. This is the GSVG in 1987., the missile division.

[Doliva63]

Quote: lis-ik

In my time, the officer even had an apartment in the GSVG, approximately like a modern five-story building, they didn’t pay for it at all, it was DOS. This is the GSVG in 1987., the missile division.

No, they took me for utility bills (in the GSVG), albeit a penny. And there was no rent, yeah.

[Alexga]

In Mongolia we paid only for electricity and some penny for water and heating. By the sums, you can not say that we paid the rent in comparison with life in Suze.

[Doliva63]

Quote: AlexGa

In Mongolia we paid only for electricity and some penny for water and heating. By the sums, you can not say that we paid the rent in comparison with life in Suze.

So water is utilities, if that). It is strange that we did not understand each other.

[Alexga]

I wanted to say that it was such a penny that you can not talk about it.

[Doliva63]

Quote: AlexGa

I wanted to say that it was such a penny that you can not talk about it.

Well yes. I agree.

[knn54]

According to the law, servicemen who have less than a year left until the end of the contract, even the day after the contract is concluded, cannot be transferred to another locality by way of replacement. Most likely, this moment is the main reason for the cancellation of the annual contract.

[Thrifty]

So encourage them to solve housing issues, trips to our Crimea, give them free, increase their salaries. Otherwise, stupid prohibitions alone will not achieve a positive result.

[vladcub]

In fact, lately they recalled one statement by Napoleon about his own and alien army. There is a lot of information about this on the site, too. The other day I met such information: servicemen with rewards will pay less in the store for goods. I didn’t read everything, but I caught the thought

[Severok]

It’s for sure: don’t go even 10-30 km beyond the garrison, don’t go on ice, don’t go fishing, do not go to crowded places, do not violate traffic rules, do not drink alcohol, don’t swim in unequipped water bodies (and hunting in water to plunge! Especially if the water temperature is a maximum of +14!). This I listed the weekend instructions. And unofficially for women not to intervene, to avoid bullies and not to give them change. These are prohibitions.
As for the sanatorium-resort for 17 years, not a single resort has been and not a single sanatorium has been offered. Yes, and can not afford. Yes, here's another thing, rations remained only in the Far North, business trips per day with a maximum of 300 rubles, this is if you go to Moscow-Peter. Payment to the place of vacation also remained only in the Far North.
So tell me, who wants to serve in the ranks of the rank-and-file and sergeant staff with a salary of no more than 3 tons of rank !? D and the ensigns also do not have much in the middle lane and in the south, I dare to estimate that it is not higher than 27-35 tr, depending on the tariff category. And how to feed the family ???? And also with scam pensions.

[Blue fox]

It will be difficult for those who planned to "finish off" a year to the required length of service; they will have to "re-serve".

[Lamata]

Yes, when they introduced the contract system, the desire to serve was undermined, it was never in Russia that the officers served under the contract, and then the Democrats made a fuss.

[Alexga]

in Russia never that contract officers served

Very correct words!

[AU Ivanov.]

Yes, but in RI an officer could always leave the service without giving reasons. It was possible to quit in the Union only for negative reasons, or for health reasons.

[Lamata]

From SA, yes, it was difficult to leave.

[vladcub]

Regarding the contract, a double-edged sword: on the one hand it’s kind of wild: a contract, something alien. But on the other hand, if a person loves his service, what is bad if the state pays him more and creates some advantages.
My brother told me: in Afghanistan, those who decided to stay extra long were ready to carry on their hands.

[Olezhek]

The adoption of this bill is due to an increase in the number of annual contracts concluded, especially by young officers, the developers of the document explain.

Something nonsense with this same officer service ...
Nonsense...
Some annual contracts ...
Something we did not go there.

it has never been in Russia that contract officers served

something like that. Some kind of crap.

[Lamata]

A contract is already just an employment contract. Let us recall the phrase from the great film "Officers" - There is such a profession - to defend the Motherland.

[vladcub]

Quote: carstorm 11

there is nothing wild in contracts) is just another system. as one man said, one must go to the army only to those who do not represent anything else in life. they always kept on and will continue.

Gold words. I recall my commanders: they were different and mediocre and talented, but there were those who lived in service. The army has always been and will continue to be.

[vladcub]

Probably want to get rid of random people. It’s a sin to hide, now there are a lot of random people among the officers: who doesn’t know why he joined the army, and who didn’t get a job as a civilian. Now the officer will think twice before signing the contract.

[polar fox]

Quote: vladcub

Probably want to get rid of random people.

as in the police ... the attestations were carried out, now there are no random ones, only "verified", such as Zakharchenko)))

[Doliva63]

Quote: AlexGa

Wild is all this. In my time, they chose this profession for life. Although, new times and new defenders, probably.

Now there is even a marriage contract, pah, damn it! What a society, such is his army, alas.

[Alexga]

What a society, such is his army, alas

In Belarus, some people already call the military parasites, though the internal military among the people also refers to the military.

[Doliva63]

Quote: AlexGa

What a society, such is his army, alas

In Belarus, some people already call the military parasites, though the internal military among the people also refers to the military.

And once in Minsk, cops put me on a plane with armed fighters in the absence of travel documents to Moscow. Like, we ourselves served, we understand. There was a time.

[Lamata]

and PROTECT who will be RB? Opposition?

[Alexga]

No, these are very few, it will be precisely those who are called that who will protect it. The problem is more that the interests of those below are too different from those who manage them. This is a big topic, not for discussion on the internet.

[Victor March 47]

Come on, I will conclude a contract with you for something for a period of 1 day. And the whole headache in determining the workplace, the issuance of a tool, work clothes, acquaintance with work will be attributed to you. obliging you to pay for this day under the Law, that is, with all the burdens for you.
You still come here with the Constitution. Wimp.

[Victor Wolz]

Another disgusting state, like retirement age, will hit just those who have one year left to serve before retirement. Because the first contract is always concluded for five years. Everyone in their age wants to go to paradise, and it is advisable that they die at work and don’t pay a pension.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

What are you? Gentlemen / fellow officers ... I certainly understand that there must be mercantile moods ... But after all ... Hmmm ... I cease to respect the officer corps. And do not complain about your bad life, believe it is not sugar for everyone. I will not be like you and will not shed tears here. Disgusting.

[vladcub]

Quote: polar fox

Quote: vladcub

Probably want to get rid of random people.

as in the police ... the attestations were carried out, now there are no random ones, only "verified", such as Zakharchenko)))

Aha