Shoigu spoke about the scale of the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2020

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Shoigu spoke about the scale of the Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2020

The Victory Parade on Red Square on May 9, 2020 will last an hour and a half, it will be attended by 15 thousand military personnel, including representatives of 20 armies of foreign states. This was announced by Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu at a special meeting dedicated to the celebration of Victory Day.

According to the head of the military department, 15 thousand people will take part in the parade, 375 ground units and aviation equipment, of which 225 units of weapons and military equipment, 150 aircraft.



The parade will be attended by the latest models of air defense systems and military air defense systems, coastal missile systems, remote mining vehicles, tanks and BMP

- specified Shoigu.

Units of 20 foreign armies are invited to participate in the parade. A number of countries, including the CIS and CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization), have already confirmed their participation. Each unit of the foreign army will consist of 75 military personnel.

A special part of the parade will be historical, in which soldiers dressed in uniforms from the Great Patriotic War, T-34 tanks and Su-100 self-propelled guns will pass along Red Square.

The atmosphere of the victorious 1945 will be recreated 10 military uniforms of those years, as well as the battalion of the famous T-34 and self-propelled artillery SU-100

- specified the head of the military department.

The main, according to Shoigu, at the celebration for the Victory will be veterans, a special festive program for four days has been developed for them.

The upcoming Victory Parade will be larger than last year and held in 2018, since it is anniversary.

Recall that the annual military parades in honor of Victory Day started in 1995 in Russia, during the Soviet Union the Victory Parade was held on June 24, 1945 and then on the anniversary dates: May 9, 1965, May 9, 1985 and May 9, 1990. About 1945 thousand people took part in the first Victory Parade in 35.
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    1. +18
      11 February 2020 13: 06
      Disguise the mausoleum, stock plywood? But how without the main thing ...
      1. +12
        11 February 2020 13: 14
        Not for that, in 1991 they won, so that they could do without plywood.
        1. -7
          11 February 2020 13: 16
          not in 91 ... in 93, when Moscow was flooded with blood.
          1. +9
            11 February 2020 13: 18
            First, the GDR army officers were betrayed. They threw to the mercy of fate the soldiers and officers of our own created army. And they sold the country.
            1. +3
              11 February 2020 13: 48
              At first, the DRA was betrayed and sold. It was a sign, we give up and surrender!
              1. +22
                11 February 2020 14: 04
                The army of the GDR and the leadership of the GDR did not betray and were faithful to their oath to the end. Unlike their Soviet colleagues traitors. The only true allies lost.
                1. +4
                  11 February 2020 14: 17
                  Thanks for the video! hi
                2. 0
                  12 February 2020 09: 12
                  Quote: Bashkirkhan
                  Unlike their Soviet colleagues traitors. The only true allies lost.

                  Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba and 14 other union republics. And now "Odyn, savsem odyn, as in ....... a hole."
            2. +17
              11 February 2020 15: 19
              Quote: Bashkirkhan
              First, the GDR army officers were betrayed. They threw to the mercy of fate the soldiers and officers of our own created army. And they sold the country.

              The only country and army from the countries of the Warsaw bloc that really feel sorry for tears, very sorry for the Stasi rightfully considered one of the best special services in the world, the traitor Gorbachev sold everything. East Germans from the former military are still in shock and misunderstanding, how so !!!
              1. 0
                11 February 2020 18: 51
                The German Democratic Republic included the Prussian and Saxon lands, which once represented the most militant German states with strong armies. This is especially true, of course, of the Prussians. It was the Prussians and Saxons who formed the basis of the officer corps first of the German Empire, then the Reichswehr, then the Wehrmacht and, finally, the NNA.
          2. +1
            11 February 2020 13: 20
            Here it is liberda in all its glory ... And you are all about the 39th year .... that with such code, there will be no time to admonish and rassusolit with such code.
          3. +3
            11 February 2020 17: 09
            More needed to be shed, the whole mess since then in the country and going on. Hurray shouted to Yeltsin, we won, and in the end, for what we fought for it and ran into it. In Ukraine, everything is like a carbon copy.
        2. +8
          11 February 2020 13: 17
          I’ll take off the pictures! I hope - the Mausoleum will be without plywood ...
          1. +5
            11 February 2020 13: 34
            Quote: Hunter 2
            The mausoleum will be without plywood ..

            I would like to.
            1. 0
              12 February 2020 01: 21
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Hunter 2
              The mausoleum will be without plywood ..

              I would like to.

              I would like the country's leadership to stand on the Mausoleum. Like in 1941 and 1945.
              1. 0
                12 February 2020 08: 58
                Quote: Gritsa
                I would like the country's leadership to stand on the Mausoleum. Like in 1941 and 1945.

                The whole leadership should stand, and Medvedev too?
          2. -1
            11 February 2020 13: 55
            Mausoleum without plywood! A square with a portrait of Stalin, marshals and emblems of the Union republics! But for some reason, the emphasis on foreigners! Have they made a major contribution? Honestly, such coverage of Victory Day infuriates! The British, French, Americans won ...? There was no victory of the USSR and union republics? And the commander in chief was not? And there were no marshals? And who was in charge? Collective mind? And where did the collective mind go after 1991?
            1. +5
              11 February 2020 14: 23
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              There was no victory of the USSR and union republics?

              USSR + Union republics? How is that?
              1. -7
                11 February 2020 14: 28
                So I ask. How? There is no coat of arms of the USSR on May 9. There are no union republics. So who won? Tricolor Vlasov?
                1. +2
                  11 February 2020 14: 53
                  And what, the descendants of the winners for the sake of you, the traitor of the Motherland, do not have the right to celebrate Victory Day, but you don’t have carrots on your collar ... so that your little head doesn’t jump .. fighter with mode! am
                2. +13
                  11 February 2020 15: 30
                  Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                  Tricolor Vlasov?

                  And when you have finished this nonsense to post! This tricolor is three hundred years older than Vlasov. And the fact that the traitors used the sea commercial flag of the Russian Empire does not make this banner Vlasov! Would you teach history!
                3. 0
                  12 February 2020 09: 00
                  Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                  So who won? Tricolor Vlasov?

                  Well, the Red Banner, I did not notice something.
          3. +4
            11 February 2020 16: 37
            Quote: Hunter 2
            I’ll take off the pictures! I hope - the Mausoleum will be without plywood ...

            And I hope that Stalin’s name was even uttered and his merits .. This is our story .. What are they already afraid of and they slandered us all from head to toe ..
            We are waiting for the photo Alexey! I am sure that they will be very interesting to many
      2. -12
        11 February 2020 13: 23
        It’s better to have a mausoleum under plywood than GDP with Si, Trump, Merkel and other camarilla on its podium. No.
        1. +3
          11 February 2020 21: 05
          MASOZOLEUS is better without plywood.
      3. -3
        11 February 2020 13: 34
        Quote: polar fox
        Mask the mausoleum, stock plywood? But how without the main thing ..

        And the blue bedspreads.
      4. +3
        11 February 2020 14: 11
        If it weren’t for 91, they wouldn’t be at the trough right now. They know who to thank.
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      1. +2
        11 February 2020 13: 24
        Quote: 13-90
        the latest examples of anti-aircraft missile systems and military air defense systems, coastal missile systems, remote mining vehicles, tanks and infantry fighting vehicles.

        And what of this really stands in service?

        The commentator will inform during the parade. Turn on the TV.
    3. -12
      11 February 2020 13: 20
      Quote: polar fox
      not in 91 ... in 93, when Moscow was flooded with blood.

      It's time to repeat. Many scum survived then. You need to start with Echo, Rain.
      1. +1
        11 February 2020 13: 24
        But what does Echo or Rain have to do with it, or are you another pro-government Troll who wants to blame Chubais, Gref and others for the liberals?
        1. +2
          11 February 2020 21: 07
          A. What liberalists are not gref.s Chubais ??
      2. +1
        12 February 2020 09: 02
        Quote: Victor March 47
        It's time to repeat. Many scum survived then. You need to start with Echo, Rain.

        By your minuses, I see that a lot of scum survived.
    4. +13
      11 February 2020 13: 20
      Victory Day is special, one of my favorite holidays.
      Whatever commentators above spit venom about plywood and so on.
    5. +15
      11 February 2020 13: 24
      Lord people! The minister simply said about the parade. What are you doing here another rally? yourself not funny?)))
      1. +2
        11 February 2020 13: 36
        Quote: carstorm 11
        The minister simply said about the parade.

        It is not the minister who decides, with or without plywood.
      2. -9
        11 February 2020 14: 05
        Yeah! The rally! Parade! It turns out that victory was won by our allies. Were we allies to them? Victory was won by everyone except the Soviet system !? Who fought then? All? But what did the USSR do? Threw corpses? Well yes! You have thrown 27 million! It turns out the winners are those who have no losses or are they minimal? It turns out the outsiders of the USSR and China? An alternative story or a modern view of history?
        1. +8
          11 February 2020 14: 16
          temperature?) what does it all have to do with it?))))))))))
          1. -8
            11 February 2020 14: 22
            What does the temperature have to do with it? Judging by the scenario, the USSR won under the leadership of the coalition!
            1. +7
              11 February 2020 16: 51
              which scenario? what are you talking about at all? about passing boxes of other states? about this hysteria or what? So this is a common thing as a sign of respect from these countries. they are always small in number and always pass separately, as it were.
            2. -1
              12 February 2020 14: 14
              Dumbass. They give their opportunity to go through the Square. This is a sign of appreciation, respect, understanding that they are also with us ..... For he who arrives is already his own.
        2. +3
          11 February 2020 14: 20
          Story did not win. The people won. Our people.
          1. -1
            11 February 2020 14: 25
            People won the victory! And under whose direction? Where are the victories of the people after 1991? Stalin did not lead? Marshals did not plan? Did the factories move themselves and plan production?
            1. +5
              11 February 2020 14: 30
              Well then, on the Kulikovo field, the feudal system defeated. Near Poltava and in Patriotic 1812 - monarchical. Prince Dmitry Donskoy and Emperor Peter the Great did not lead the battles? What do military leaders have to do with the ranks?
              1. +1
                11 February 2020 14: 33
                Why didn’t the French win? Or the Poles? What all of Europe fell under Hitler? There, Stalin also shot all the talented commanders? On the Kulikovo field under the USSR, the flag of the USSR flied? Or in the 1812th year flags of the USSR fluttered? It turns out that in 1945 the tricolor was hanged in Berlin?
                1. +1
                  11 February 2020 14: 38
                  So the French and other Europeans, Hitler was not going to destroy on a national basis. Unlike the Slavs. And thanks to Stalin for shooting the executioners of his people during the Civil War. Type Tukhachevsky, Yakir and Blucher. Which would be more likely to merge the country in a couple of months. The Wehrmacht is not the Tambov peasants.
                  1. 0
                    11 February 2020 14: 42
                    Well then, then they didn’t fight against Hitler! Why then invite Europeans?
                    1. +6
                      11 February 2020 14: 45
                      We invited the vanquished. Honneker and Kadar stood next to Brezhnev at the mausoleum. It was a deal.
                    2. Fat
                      0
                      11 February 2020 15: 51
                      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                      Well then, then they didn’t fight against Hitler! Why then invite Europeans?

                      "United Nations" (United Nations), proposed by US President Franklin Roosevelt and first encountered in the Declaration of the United Nations of 1942 (Washington Declaration twenty-six). The influence of the allies on the military and post-war world order is enormous, on its basis the United Nations (UN) was created ...
                      The USSR Post even issued a stamp "Long live the Victory of the Anglo-Soviet-American Combat Union! Stalin". The stamp was released in 1943.
                      And here you are spraying saliva .. Do not like the words of Stalin?
                    3. +7
                      11 February 2020 18: 41
                      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                      Well then, then they didn’t fight against Hitler! Why then invite Europeans?

                      If you want, then advice to the protester wink .
                      If you want to come to the rally, tell me what kind of Putin you are and they will provide you with a free bus. If you want to leave the rally, then say that you are against Putin and you will also be provided with a free bus.
              2. 0
                12 February 2020 09: 05
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                Prince Dmitry Donskoy and Emperor Peter the Great did not lead the battles? What do military leaders have to do with the ranks?

                When there is a war, they don’t think about the system, they need to defend the fatherland, faith, their families.
            2. 0
              11 February 2020 19: 53
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Did the factories move themselves and plan production?

              And in the evacuated factories, the teenagers did not freeze their fingers behind the machines in the open air?
          2. -2
            11 February 2020 21: 10
            write nonsense.
        3. +6
          11 February 2020 14: 27
          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          Parade! It turns out that victory was won by our allies

          Yes, calm down, persecuted ... or did you go out of class?
          1. -9
            11 February 2020 14: 31
            Who went after school? According to the scenario, Russia helped the allies! And the allies commanded Russia (then the USSR).
            1. +9
              11 February 2020 14: 50
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              According to the scenario, Russia helped the allies! And the allies commanded Russia (then the USSR).

              In which scenario? What are you talking about nonsense?
      3. +8
        11 February 2020 14: 26
        Quote: carstorm 11
        What are you doing here another rally?

        So they won’t count the day without a rally, how can they feed their families? Will you pay for something simple?
    6. -4
      11 February 2020 13: 25
      Well, at least this year will give an opportunity to fly over the KP to the forces of the air forces? We are all-weather or where! sad We can arrange a lower "defile" soldier
    7. +1
      11 February 2020 13: 28
      This year, among the company of the Guard of Honor there will be a platoon, represented only from female servicemen. smile
    8. +11
      11 February 2020 13: 29
      After reading the comments, I had two questions.
      1 - What is the role of the Mausoleum in the Victory?
      2- If suddenly the Mausoleum is not "disguised", will these commentators really say a kind word towards the authorities?
      If people regarding the celebration of Victory Day remember only the drapery of the Mausoleum, then it seems to me that these people need only a reason to express their discontent. And the Mausoleum has nothing to do with it.
      1. +3
        11 February 2020 13: 36
        1 - as a symbol of the USSR, probably, the state that made the main contribution to the victory over the "collective Europe" of the last century. Although I doubt that many of them are nostalgic for the Union.
        2-never, because they have another 1000 and one reason to spit on the state. And the Mausoleum, which many of them have never seen, has nothing to do with it. Some of the "disaffected" generally live in a neighboring state on "u" hi
        1. +11
          11 February 2020 15: 24
          Quote: Less
          After reading the comments, I had two questions.
          1 - What is the role of the Mausoleum in Victory?
          2- If suddenly the Mausoleum is not "disguised", will these commentators say good word towards power?

          The mausoleum is the main (one of) symbolism of the winners of that war. Do people who deny the symbols of winners have the right to celebrate victory?

          And if happiness happens that the mausoleum is not filled with plywood, then personally I will say thanks. Although it is customary to give thanks for perfect (good) deeds, and not for the fact that they did not do something there.

          Quote: Prjanik
          Trolls are ordinary.

          This is exactly what trolls do - logically isolating the quotient (mausoleum) from the general (victory). And considering them individually out of context.
          1. 0
            11 February 2020 21: 16
            Quote: Stas157
            The mausoleum is the main (one of) symbolism of the winners of that war.

            Is it true? I always thought that the mausoleum is just a crypt to Lenin. He was undoubtedly a great man, but he had nothing to do with the Second World War. So to rejoice at the parade from the grave, this is probably not entirely correct.
            1. +5
              11 February 2020 23: 23
              Quote: Marconi41
              Quote: Stas157
              The mausoleum is the main (one of) symbolism of the winners of that war.

              Is it true? ... ...
              rejoice at the parade from the grave, this is probably not entirely correct.

              You would have it at the Victory Parade, in 1945, and declared to the people personally to Comrade Stalin!

              It is not for you to decide what is correct and what is not.
              1. +1
                12 February 2020 08: 06
                Quote: Stas157
                It is not for you to decide what is correct and what is not.

                And even more so, it’s not up to you, the pigs, to decide, away from your dirty hands from a public holiday !!!
          2. +2
            12 February 2020 08: 05
            Quote: Stas157
            Do people who deny the symbols of winners have the right to celebrate victory?

            Stas, who are you to personally forbid me from celebrating Victory Day to my grandson, son and nephew of those who defended my homeland? The Russian Federation is the direct heir to the USSR and not only the USSR! Is the people living in Russia and the former Soviet republics really to blame for the fact that the Communists, for whom you stubbornly stoke, have profiled their power? Moreover, the authorities who wanted to spit not only on veterans of the Great Patriotic War, but also on veterans of all post-war armed conflicts !!!
            If you are a principled and honest person, then on May 9, as a real communist, you should come out with a poster "Citizens of Russia, Victory Day is not your holiday! You have no right to this!"
            Will you do it ???
      2. 0
        11 February 2020 13: 38
        Trolls are ordinary.
      3. +9
        11 February 2020 13: 41
        Quote: Less
        And the Mausoleum has nothing to do with it.

        So let them do as they did at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945, the triumph of the victorious Soviet people who defeated Nazi Germany, who led the combined forces of Europe in the Great Patriotic War.
        1. 0
          11 February 2020 13: 55
          Quote: tihonmarine
          So let them do as they did at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945,

          To be exactly as you want, you also need to invite Comrade Stalin to the podium. I do not mind, but where to get it?
          1. 0
            11 February 2020 14: 03
            Holographic projection.
            1. +2
              11 February 2020 14: 09
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Holographic projection.

              The option is good, but I think this option will be reserved for the celebration of the centenary of Victory. Otherwise, it will look like PR and will again cause curses on the authorities. The case will turn out - without Stalin, power is bad and again with Stalin at the Mausoleum it is bad.
          2. 0
            11 February 2020 21: 17
            you can find it if you search a lot. Well, not I.V. but very similar. It’s only that VO will get much thinner. And it’s not one. But maybe it’s for the better. !!!
        2. +4
          11 February 2020 14: 30
          Quote: tihonmarine
          let them do as it was at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945

          yeah, .... and another shtob watering heavy rain imitated !!!!!
      4. +14
        11 February 2020 13: 51
        Quote: Less
        And the Mausoleum has nothing to do with it.
        1. +2
          11 February 2020 13: 57
          Quote: Per se.
          Quote: Less
          And the Mausoleum has nothing to do with it.

          And now you propose to throw banners with symbols of terrorists to the Mausoleum? Is there too much honor for ordinary bandits?
          1. +10
            11 February 2020 14: 12
            Quote: Less
            And now you propose to throw banners with symbols of terrorists to the Mausoleum?
            1. +1
              11 February 2020 14: 21
              Alas, this adversary has not yet signed the Unconditional Surrender Act. Especially the one that is striped and with asterisks.
      5. -1
        11 February 2020 14: 41
        After reading the comments, I had two questions.
        1 - What is the role of the Mausoleum in the Victory?

        Ask this question to those who disguise it for some reason every year .. for sure, they know what this procedure is for ..
        And at the same time remember, with whose name on the lips (along with Stalin) the Red Army went into battle .. And with the victory over whom the name Lenin is associated ..

        If suddenly the Mausoleum is not "disguised", will these commentators say a kind word towards the authorities?

        If suddenly tomorrow the authorities do not spoil in the middle of Red Square, the commentators, of course, will still not say a good word to the authorities .. For the authorities should not spoil there ..
        This is how to thank you for not beating anyone on the way to work ..
        1. -5
          11 February 2020 14: 51
          The attack, mainly raised with an invincible Russian obscenities on the lips. Judging by the memoirs and personal stories of the participants. Not those Soviet memoirs, reminded and ideologically seasoned, but, for example, an interview with veterans A. Drabkin.
        2. +2
          11 February 2020 15: 03
          Quote: Roman070280
          And at the same time remember, with whose name on your lips

          Really named "Mausoleum"?

          Quote: Roman070280
          commentators, of course, will not say a good word to the authorities anyway .. For the authorities shouldn’t spoil there either ..

          No one should be crap at all. Neither power nor commentators.
          Quote: Roman070280
          It's like thanking you for

          Do not have the habit of poking at strangers ...
          1. +1
            11 February 2020 15: 19
            Really named "Mausoleum"?


            Do you like to pretend ?? Well, go on ..


            No one should be crap at all. Neither power nor commentators.

            That's it .. And no one should thank them for this either .. What I just wrote about !!

            Do not have the habit of poking at strangers ...


            Do not have the habit of teaching me how to approach people .. I did not offend anyone, and everything else is just your sexual problems, for on the topic you could not answer me a word .. although you wrote as many as three paragraphs ..
            1. +1
              11 February 2020 15: 28
              Quote: Roman070280
              and everything else is just your sexual problems

              Rudeness does not lead to good and does not add respect to you.
              Quote: Roman070280
              on the topic you could not answer a word to me ..

              Did you really ask something? You used the usual cliches and spat in passing in power, and you are probably satisfied with yourself expecting that I myself will come up with what to answer me.
              1. +5
                11 February 2020 15: 52
                Did you really ask something?

                I did not ask, but answered your question ..

                probably pleased with yourself expect me to come up with something to answer for me.
                And you really "invented" ..
                For all the answers came out completely off topic ..
            2. +2
              12 February 2020 08: 14
              Quote: Roman070280
              Don't have the habit of teaching me how to reach people

              Due to the fact that your folder most likely didn’t beat you, then you should be taught, only spend time .. so you will remain ignoramus!
              1. -2
                12 February 2020 11: 54
                teach you, only spend time ..

                Nobody asked you like ... look at yourself ..
                1. +3
                  12 February 2020 12: 18
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  watch yourself.

                  I don’t have mirrors to look after myself, so it’s up to you to keep an eye on you!
                  1. -2
                    12 February 2020 12: 35
                    You, it seems, have no one to talk to .. accumulated .. and burps now ..))
                    Find another forum where you will be helped in solving these problems .. here, after all, they discussed the topic of the parade ..
                    1. +3
                      12 February 2020 12: 49
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      You don't seem to have anyone to talk to

                      Why aren’t you interlocutor? Didn’t it go out of your mind?
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      Find another forum

                      Heros two! Why's that? I have such a wonderful hunt here and with what kind of fart?
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      nevertheless, the topic of the parade was discussed.

                      Have you discussed? Ahh, is this such a creative discussion? Sorry brother, I didn’t understand, but for me it’s not a discussion, but pure defamation of the main holiday of the country! And you’re sorry, but for this holiday I’ll tear off any Bosco and say it was so!
                      1. -2
                        12 February 2020 12: 54
                        Sorry brother did not understand


                        Bye..
                        1. +2
                          12 February 2020 12: 57
                          And you don’t get sick!
        3. +4
          12 February 2020 08: 11
          Quote: Roman070280
          remember, with whose name on the lips (along with Stalin), the Red Army went into battle.

          They shouted cheers, shouted obscenities, shouted for the Motherland, commissars-political leaders up to the battalion inclusively for the Motherland, shouted for Stalin .... but for Lenin ... that not one veteran spoke to me and did not remember .. what
      6. +3
        11 February 2020 14: 50
        From the history of the Mausoleum can not be deleted. Like the fact that all the commanders of the fronts, officers of the General Staff and others were Bolsheviks. Why be ashamed of this? Then, because it contradicts the convictions of a significant part of the Russian power elite, who stole and continues to steal.
        1. -1
          11 February 2020 15: 44
          The commanders were Bolsheviks, mainly because without membership in the party, there could be no serious military career. You cannot rise above the major.
          1. +5
            12 February 2020 01: 33
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            The commanders were Bolsheviks, mainly because without membership in the party, there could be no serious military career. You cannot rise above the major.

            My own grandfather was only a sergeant. And he joined the party in the trenches in 1942 not for promotion.
          2. +2
            12 February 2020 08: 26
            Stop, in the companies and battalions the party organizers were privates and sergeants.
        2. -1
          11 February 2020 21: 20
          what is the elite? Themselves proclaimed the elite !!!
      7. +9
        11 February 2020 15: 11
        What is the role of the Mausoleum in Victory?

        Yes, he was just standing nearby.
      8. +3
        11 February 2020 15: 26
        Quote: Less
        1 - What is the role of the Mausoleum in the Victory?

        In 1941, when the Germans were near Moscow, they held a parade from which the fighters, almost immediately, went to the front lines, the country's leadership took the parade on the platform of the Mausoleum. In my opinion, the point is continuity, because even then the whole leadership there took the parade.
        1. 0
          11 February 2020 15: 43
          Quote: lis-ik
          the country's leadership hosted a parade on the podium of the Mausoleum.

          Even though you remembered this event. The rest of the opponents of the "disguise" of the Mausoleum, this fact is probably not known. There are two arguments in total: the parade of the 41st and the parade of the 45th.
          Thank you for your comment and thanks to those (Incvizitor, Per se., Tihonmarine) who remembered where the banners captured in the battles threw.
          Alas, not one of the commentators who vehemently opposed the Mausoleum's draping remembered these facts (or did not consider it necessary to answer the questions posed).
          As required.
          Nevertheless, the main symbol of Victory is the Victory Banner. It is present at the Parade.
    9. -3
      11 February 2020 13: 38
      And I think it would be great if the whole parade was held in a historical style. There are old tanks, there are also enough reenactors. Could tighten up a bit and import. On foot let them march, and the "Shermans" and "Matilda" all sorts of them would stand on the sidelines for the little ones to climb over them ...
      1. -4
        11 February 2020 14: 09
        Yeah! In historical style! And what about the high command?
        1. +1
          11 February 2020 14: 10
          On an armored car and a cap in hand! Although this is another reconstruction))) laughing
          1. -5
            11 February 2020 14: 18
            On an armored car and a cap in hand! Although this is another reconstruction)
            Is it EBN?
            1. +4
              11 February 2020 14: 55
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Is it EBN?

              laughing good Boy, remove the sickle and hammer from the avatar, do not disgrace Lenin!
              1. +5
                11 February 2020 18: 36
                Quote: Serg65
                Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                Is it EBN?

                laughing good Boy, remove the sickle and hammer from the avatar, do not disgrace Lenin!

                Really winked , it’s not clear what he wants? Walk with the banner of the USSR, and a portrait of Lenin, please be sure no one will say a word No. Although, judging by the posts, this is just not what suits them. Be sure to disagree and scandal ...
                1. +3
                  12 February 2020 08: 17
                  Quote: Terenin
                  what does he want?

                  Gennady, what do the parliament want, the same Poles? This is a young and virgin miracle from the same opera!
            2. +1
              12 February 2020 01: 39
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Is it EBN?

              One question: how old is it? wassat
              1. +4
                12 February 2020 08: 19
                Quote: Paranoid50
                how many years?

                It is not a matter of years, but the emptiness of the skull and the greed of the stomach!
    10. +8
      11 February 2020 13: 41
      There should be a red star on thirty fours, if it is so meticulous to approach - both the form and technique of the times of war. Symbolism must be Soviet! But, something tells me that it is plywood ...
      1. +4
        11 February 2020 14: 45
        If meticulously, then at the Victory Parade in 1945 on the T-34 there were no stars and guards emblems, only the numbers of lines were drawn on the sides.


        1. +5
          11 February 2020 15: 09
          Yes indeed...
          just St. George's ribbon and the "renewed" star are not very appropriate in the stylistic time slice, better a native red star!
          1. +3
            11 February 2020 20: 17
            That's right, Igor. I agree with your comments.
            Recently, our leadership has been urging all the time not to falsify history, with respect to its past.
            Now there will be an excellent occasion to show that these words do not diverge from the deed.
            Symbols at the parade should be Soviet. The Great Victory was won by the Soviet people. And Russia has no more rights to victory than Tajikistan, Ukraine and Kazakhstan. And all the Soviet republics. Therefore, they won because they did not divide each other by nationality.
            If true, then true. And not so as to remember only what is beneficial.
            1. -8
              11 February 2020 21: 25
              Kazakhstan. Ukraine and others have NO rights to win. The UNION OF SOCIALIST REPUBLICS had rights.
              1. +2
                12 February 2020 08: 25
                Quote: Seeker
                kazakhstan. ukraine and others have NO rights to win

                Are you going from Poland or what? Did you go through Kiev?
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            3. +2
              12 February 2020 09: 15
              ... frames of the chronicle simultaneously broadcast on advertising screens in cities and villages, as well as on TV and no advertising, from the word at all, no social events, and certainly no dubious news!
              All day on May 9, but start from the evening of the 8th, and finish in the morning of May 10.
    11. +7
      11 February 2020 14: 06
      Hurray-patriotic cries from all screens of the country. "Thank the granfather for the victory!". "We can repeat!" What, tell me, grandfather? My grandfathers - participants in the war - died in the twentieth century. How many veterans are left? Three years ago, my distant relative, Bershatsky Philip Mikhailovich, an invalid of the Great Patriotic War, died ... At that time he was 93 years old. The old man lived nicely. It must be said that the government respected the veterans. Philip Mikhailovich's pension was 40 thousand, all sorts of benefits for rent, medicines and so on. In the USSR, they even gave a car out of turn, and, in my opinion, even for free. He regularly went to good sanatoriums for free. And it is right! Veterans deserve it! BUT!

      What's going on now? With the complete absence of moral guidelines in modern Russian society, with the ever-increasing distance between society and power, with the militant clericalization of society, what can the government offer the people as a moral guide? October 1917 coup? A fratricidal Civil War? Collectivization? A curving "Baikonur" led by Rogozin? Afghan and two Chechen wars? South Ossetia, bandit Abkhazia, Donbass ??? Oh yes - KRYMNASH !!! Never mind! That leaves the last wand, a lifesaver. The Great Patriotic War. AND -AAAAAAA !!!!! Glory to the Veterans! Give T-34 to every parade! Immortal Regiment !!!!!

      Last year, my daughter and granddaughter were invited to a class hour .... war veterans! I doubted ... Indeed, it is difficult to imagine that a dozen old people under 100 years old came to several classes of a school in a small village at once ... I watched the video. Cheerful pensioners of 70 years old ... The teacher bashfully explained that they were ... like veterans ... CHILDREN OF WAR! What children? My parents were EIGHT years old by the end of the war! And now - already the ninth decade! And although they are on their own feet, they will not go to schools. And what will a child, who was FIVE years old at the beginning of the war, remember? Mom only remembers the FEELING of Victory in 1945. And more ... Last year, on the eve of the Victory Day, I stopped at an impromptu retail outlet. On the sidelines, right from the car, a young guy of about twenty-five was selling flags of the USSR and the Russian Federation, St. George's ribbons, soldier's caps, stickers ... I went up and asked: "Will you sell a cap to a veteran at a discount?" The guy looked at me with respect, a 58-year-old (!!!!) at that time, an aging man with noble gray hair and a beer belly. And he asked the question: "Where, dad, did you fight?" And I told him how I had crossed the Senna River near Paris, and almost had time to take the Reichstag to Munich ... I told him how we fraternized with the Americans near Prague. And the guy listened with his mouth open! Shame ...

      And now about seventy-one billion rubles. 71.000.000.000 .... The Government and the President DECIDED! Give each war veteran 75 thousand rubles! And allocated 71 billion for this! Of course, I’m not too deceived about the mind of our government ... But still! At least they should know arithmetic of the 4th grade, what do you think? We produce the simplest action. 71.000.000.000 rubles divided by 75.000. And we get that in the Russian Federation there are 946.666 veterans of the Great Patriotic War !!!!!. Almost - MILLION! How old are the youngest veterans now? If an 18-year-old guy was called up in 1945, already at the end of the war, now such a guy will be 93 years old! Well, let's say there were 16-year-olds, although by the end of the war this was already rare. Then - 91 years. That is, all veterans are already deep in 90 years!

      Now let's turn to statistics. Sly statistics in Russia. She, by and large, can not even accurately determine the number of people. And the age characteristics ... The authorities said that life expectancy increases with the birth rate, which means it increases. And yet ... Recently, we have been cheerfully reported that 20.582 people live in Russia, whose age is one hundred or more years. About age 90-100 years - silent. But let's say there are only 100.000 such people. Moreover, I note that the majority (80%) of centenarians are WOMEN! Of course, women fought, but still the main soldier’s feat lay on the shoulders of men. But let it go. Let us have 100.000 war veterans. Then their gift will be 7.500.000.000, or 7,5 billion rubles. Moreover, as I already wrote, this is a fantastic figure, there aren’t as many veterans of the war, even if you add homeworkers to them! NOT! And immediately the question arises - where will the remaining 63,5 billion go? or according to our established tradition this money will be carefully sawn? And turned into new mansions on Rublevka, yachts and planes?
      1. 0
        11 February 2020 14: 14
        I agree. It's the same story with my own grandfather. Passed "inside and out". He was called up for an emergency in 1939 (he was 21), their demobilized car was unhooked in Belarus, and turned to the west. He died back in 1985 at the age of 64 ..., from lung cancer, although after the war he stopped smoking.
        Anyway, everything is right, which is already there.
      2. +6
        11 February 2020 14: 29
        there are many who equated to the participants of the Second World War
        1. -7
          11 February 2020 21: 32
          And send all these "equated"
          1. +3
            12 February 2020 08: 25
            where did you go? not good to say so
          2. +4
            12 February 2020 08: 26
            Quote: Seeker
            And send all these "equated"

            What VO Vlasov divorced nemereno !!!
      3. +1
        11 February 2020 14: 34
        Oh yes - KRYMNASH !!! (C)
        Do you have problems perceiving Crimea as part of Russia?
        1. +1
          11 February 2020 14: 56
          Quote: kot28.ru
          Do you have problems perceiving Crimea as part of Russia?

          Is it not visible? Look at him from the Victory, and our Crimea wrinkles!
          1. 0
            11 February 2020 15: 03
            He’s generally a strange uncle. He and his daughter and granddaughter go to school ... at the same time. He’s probably 59 already ... My father will be 60 this year, his granddaughter is 12, we, his children, have finished school a long time ago .. .something is wrong in his speeches. Grandfather was born in 1922, liberated Belarus, Poland. He died in 1997. A native of the Bryansk region.
            1. +1
              11 February 2020 16: 51
              Quote: kot28.ru
              He’s generally a strange uncle. He and his daughter and granddaughter go to school ... at the same time.

              and what is strange? I have an older son 26, the youngest daughter is 4 years old ... granddaughter is 1 year old ... can you count? will they go to school together?
              1. +1
                12 February 2020 08: 28
                Quote: polar fox
                will they go to school together?

                And the great-granddaughter in what class is studying?
      4. +4
        11 February 2020 14: 48
        Quote: 1970mk
        Last year, my daughter and granddaughter were invited to the classroom .... war veterans! I doubted ..

        My father, born in 1924, was drafted in 1942, got to the front in 1943, reached the Elbe, this year he will turn 96, he is of sound mind and strong memory ... and that, because you does he not like the "hype around Victory Day" and not to celebrate his victory? Or should I not celebrate the victory of my Motherland over the invaders?
        Quote: 1970mk
        And immediately the question arises - where will the remaining 63,5 billion go? or according to our established tradition this money will be carefully sawn? And turned into new mansions on Rublevka, yachts and planes?

        Hey, you are an amateur accountant, go out on May 9 to Red Square with a poster "Down with the May 9 Holiday! It's all lies! Putin stole the veterans' money" Show your integrity !!!
        Quote: 1970mk
        Pension at Philip Mikhailovich was 40 thousand

        What kind of pension is this?
        Quote: 1970mk
        In the USSR, they still gave the car a queue, and, in my opinion, even for free

        Free of charge gave invalids of the Second World War, other veterans a cone under their nose!
        Quote: 1970mk
        He regularly went free to good sanatoriums.

        Strange as it was, Gorbachev did it!
        1. -5
          11 February 2020 21: 42
          hear. you. I have seen thousands of them .. who tear their shirt on themselves on May 9th and on May 10th they cross over fallen old men without turning around.
          1. +3
            12 February 2020 07: 01
            Quote: Seeker
            hear you

            Are you talking to me?
      5. -1
        11 February 2020 15: 37
        Quote: 1970mk
        . In the USSR, they even gave the car a queue, and, in my opinion, even for free.

        No for free. I remember my grandfather bought his father a VAZ-21061, as a veteran and invalid of the Second World War for 8160 thousand rubles, in 1984, and then later, as a veteran of the Second World War and a veteran of the KGB GAZ-2410 for 16000 rubles. in 1987.
        1. +1
          12 February 2020 05: 59
          They were given free to invalids of the Second World War. They were at first the "invalid" SZA (remember the "Y" operation), then the SMZ SZD, then the ZAZ, and recently OKA. It was necessary to have a bunch of social security inquiries and wait in line.
      6. +2
        11 February 2020 15: 43
        Horseradish arithmetic, but where did the rest go? WWII veteran, this is not only a participant in the hostilities.
        “As of April 1, 2019, 74 thousand disabled veterans and veterans of the Great Patriotic War, direct participants in those events, and 1,2 million people are veterans of the Great Patriotic War, including residents of besieged Leningrad and home front workers, live in Russia , former juvenile prisoners of fascism "

        Who will receive payments of 75 thousand rubles?
        In April-May, permanent residents of Russia, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia will receive it:
        - invalids and veterans of the Great Patriotic War;
        - former juvenile prisoners of concentration camps, ghettos and other places of forced detention created by the Nazis and their allies;
        - widows (widowers) of military personnel who died during the war with Finland, the Great Patriotic War, the war with Japan;
        - widows (widowers) of the dead invalids of the Great Patriotic War and participants of the Great Patriotic War.

        Who will receive payments of 50 thousand rubles?
        - former adult prisoners of Nazi concentration camps, prisons and ghettos;
        - rear workers who have worked for at least six months during the Second World War.
    12. +1
      11 February 2020 14: 11
      Of course, on such an important date (all the more so in the current realities), I would like to have led the unit’s parade in the form of that time and equipment with original symbols for that time.
      Infantry with PPSh, artillery batteries with horse-drawn ZIS cannons, anti-aircraft guns on "lorries", T-34, SU-2, SU-3, SU-100, Katyusha ... And then they would have gone on the most modern. To show the entire world community the full power of the RF Armed Forces.
      I would even go over a supersonic sound over the Central Administrative District, so that some would run shivers along the fifth point.
      Eh ...
      1. -2
        11 February 2020 14: 35
        you go over your cities in your supersonic hi
        1. -2
          11 February 2020 14: 41
          ...paranoia?
          1. -2
            11 February 2020 14: 42
            .....intuition bully
            1. -2
              11 February 2020 14: 46
              the wrong smiley stuck, for "intuitive".
              1. -2
                11 February 2020 14: 51
                nonetheless, your handwriting is familiar wink
      2. Alf
        +3
        11 February 2020 20: 04
        Quote: Maestro Alexander
        SU-2, SU-3,

        What is this?
        1. -1
          12 February 2020 11: 14
          ... I was in a hurry, I put the IS tanks on a par with the SU-100 self-propelled guns, it's my fault. Of course, these are legendary ISs.
          1. Alf
            0
            12 February 2020 20: 32
            Quote: Maestro Alexander
            ... I was in a hurry, I put the IS tanks on a par with the SU-100 self-propelled guns, it's my fault. Of course, these are legendary ISs.

            Everything is all right, not an angel himself. +.
      3. -1
        12 February 2020 01: 43
        Quote: Maestro Alexander
        Infantry with PPSh, artillery batteries with horse-drawn ZIS cannons, anti-aircraft guns on "lorries", T-34, SU-2, SU-3, SU-100, Katyusha ...

        It would be nice. But the authorities will not bother with this. What for? These are additional problems. We have the same in places. I already suggested that the commission on preparation for the celebration of Victory at the district level change something. Conduct more extensively, change the general organization. But no one agreed. What for? This is because once again fuss and stir. It’s much easier to do according to the worked out scheme, according to the thumb ... it’s easier.
    13. +6
      11 February 2020 14: 19
      I feel - the Parade will be Supesky! I envy the participants and spectators ... Comadir - a report from you. wink
    14. -6
      11 February 2020 14: 26
      The central event will be the drapery of the mausoleum ..
      Although, it was the name of the one who lies in it, the soldiers shouted, rushing into battle !!
      1. +4
        11 February 2020 14: 58
        Quote: Roman070280
        it was the name of the one who lies in it, the soldiers shouted, throwing themselves

        laughing From where do you get such clever men? Specially bred?
        1. -2
          11 February 2020 15: 25
          But there is no need to breed Dypikov .. and so enough, wherever I go ..
          1. +5
            12 February 2020 05: 06
            Quote: Roman070280
            and so enough, wherever I go ..

            daaaaaa uzhzhzhzhzh .... you pop up constantly !!! request wassat
      2. -4
        11 February 2020 15: 12
        Is such a breezy mother in the mausoleum? When attacked, she was recalled much more often than scarecrow.
        1. -4
          11 February 2020 15: 49
          A scarecrow will take a parade next to the mausoleum ..
          Although no one recalled him during the attack, and he has nothing to do with it ..
          Logically, it should also be covered with plywood ..
    15. 0
      11 February 2020 14: 57
      Quote: Whatislove
      But what does Echo or Rain have to do with it, or are you another pro-government Troll who wants to blame Chubais, Gref and others for the liberals?

      Anyone, if he is not the final idiot, should know that in front of any oligarch comes an idea whose carrier is a shit like Venediktov. The bearer of the idea will never stop, the oligarch can be put on a chain, and forced to do what society needs. The palace will burn, manuscripts do not burn.
    16. +1
      11 February 2020 15: 03
      It will be interesting to see. Still, the anniversary.
    17. +1
      11 February 2020 15: 10
      Quote: Roman070280
      The central event will be the drapery of the mausoleum ..
      Although, it was the name of the one who lies in it, the soldiers shouted, rushing into battle !!

      Russia BEFORE this criminal did not contain national entities, with the exception of Poland and Finland. And they were the first to roll back, the decree on the separation of which was signed by this bastard. He understood what he was doing, but he shoveled United, Indivisible Russia into many specific principalities, giving the locals for feeding parts, leaving himself a common fund. Followers were found and completed the defeat of the Empire.
      Not a single state. consisting of national pieces is not strong. There are a lot of examples of this. Scotland, Ireland, Wallonia, Kurdistan, .... Russia has never had Ukraine in its composition. if you were literate and reading, then in M. Sholokhov's Virgin Land Upturned, you would read the reason for the spring fights between the Cossacks. “The borders are to blame, the borders, the damned.” Having no border between your garden and mine, we cannot fight because of the post Mordva- considers itself a single people, although there are three nationalities, Moksha, Erzya and more, I forgot what they call it. There are no borders between these formations in Mordovia. And if anyone wanted to embroil, he would have made the Erzyan region district and so on. Having given, for the speed of scandals, the small Erza regional status, and the numerous Moksha-district. Plus arbitrary cutting and transfer of territories and peoples. Plus the common fund, the country's budget, divisible, the devil knows on what basis, depriving some and filling others The USSR collapsed along these, at first, conditional borders, and you, a fool who does not understand the reasons, are writing nonsense here.
    18. +1
      11 February 2020 15: 17
      And I'm interested in three things:
      - Will the parade be taken from the rostrum of the Mausoleum?
      - Will the former USSR countries, allied countries of the USA, England, France, as well as Mongolia, Poland, Yugoslavia (Serbia?) Participate in the historical part of the parade?
      - Will there be a historical part of the air parade from old planes?
    19. +2
      11 February 2020 15: 24
      Shoigu also promised to complete the main church church for 6 billion for the holiday. Although, in my opinion, it would be more appropriate to invest these funds in the development and production of new equipment for the Armed Forces.
      1. -4
        11 February 2020 16: 56
        This is a spiritual bond.
      2. +1
        12 February 2020 08: 31
        Quote: Elephant
        it would be more expedient to invest these funds in the development and production of new equipment for the aircraft.

        Or cookies for you personally !!!
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    21. -2
      11 February 2020 15: 46
      Hopefully, maybe this time it will be possible to see exactly the equipment, but not the tracks and wheels! There used to be one camera, and it showed what the announcer was "broadcasting" about. And now a bunch of cameras that fly, crawl, spy on and show anything (ankle boots, wheels, rear view, top view, ...) just not the equipment itself! And everything is done asynchronously to the words of the speaker! Or maybe this is on purpose, "so that the enemies do not guess" ?! fool
    22. -2
      11 February 2020 16: 39
      The victory was won by the Soviet people.
      Question 1: where is this Soviet people now?
      Question 2: where is the friendship of the peoples who then won this victory?
      Question 3: what does the so-called oligarchy have to do with this victory?
      I think everyone will give the answers for himself.
      1. +1
        12 February 2020 08: 35
        Quote: Old Fuck
        I think everyone will give it himself.

        Of course I will!
        Quote: Old Fuck
        Question 1: where is this Soviet people now?

        He lives and lives on evil for you, because the people cannot be defeated!
        Quote: Old Fuck
        Question 2: where is the friendship of the peoples who then won this victory?

        In the same place as before, there was nothing to divide the people ... no matter how you try!
        Quote: Old Fuck
        Question 3: what does the so-called oligarchy have to do with this victory?

        There is nothing like willow!
        Did I answer your questions?
    23. -3
      11 February 2020 16: 55
      Well, let's see, and even on the foreign army, who will be. 150 aircraft, impressive. and what will fly.
    24. +3
      11 February 2020 17: 50
      Guys, what's the difference, they’ll close the mausoleum, they won’t close the mausoleum. May 9th is a holy holiday for us. And most importantly, that he was ... And it will be.
      1. +2
        11 February 2020 18: 59
        so the feeling is that Russia won, less and less mention of the USSR
        1. 0
          12 February 2020 01: 20
          Not quite smart people write this way, Victory is common, of course, but only the Russian Federation is now at the diplomatic level, in foreign policy, as a country (not talking about people who remember, know and respect), somehow trying to protect history, monuments and graves to those who fell in the Second World War under the USSR on the world stage, largely unsuccessfully, the rest are all passive, as if it were "showdowns" of the Russian Federation. And only the Russian Federation took upon itself all the responsibility and debts of the USSR after the collapse, like a normal older brother, sister and mother, and for whom it was not at all sweet and now it is difficult, and which many are now trampled into the mud, and they demand something else from them ...
          1. +3
            12 February 2020 08: 41
            Quote: Laksamana Besar
            Not quite smart so write

            Yes, I would not say! Judge for yourself .. where are the United States, Young Europeans, Russian liberals and Russian kakbykommunisty now beating? Their goal is to make confusion in immature young minds and deprive our future generation of pride in their ancestors! That's all they rushed to defame Victory Day!
        2. +1
          12 February 2020 08: 36
          Quote: Lamata
          so the feeling is that Russia won, less and less mention of the USSR

          You don’t put your feelings, you better lay them out .. so it will be more correct, and bile will stand out less!
    25. -3
      12 February 2020 00: 53
      This, of course, is all good, please grandparents, not the latest technology will go to the parade, but the concept car, which is still very far from production. That's when serial military equipment goes, then Shoigu will please us.
      1. +1
        12 February 2020 08: 42
        Quote: Alexey from Perm
        That's when serial military equipment goes, then Shoigu will please us.

        Oh, come on, then you will spit bile!
        1. -3
          12 February 2020 08: 49
          then I will be filled with pride
          1. +1
            12 February 2020 09: 04
            belay Yes, why? Pride in the country and you are not compatible concepts!
            1. -2
              12 February 2020 09: 44
              Where does such a biased opinion come from? Judge by yourself?
              1. +2
                12 February 2020 10: 13
                Quote: Alexey from Perm
                Where does such a biased opinion come from?

                From your comment, buddy!
                1. -2
                  12 February 2020 10: 18
                  From my commentary it is clear that I have critical thinking, evaluate and compare information, I am in the subject, and do not blindly believe what the presenter says in the "Military Acceptance" program. What I want to wish you too))
                  1. +2
                    12 February 2020 10: 24
                    Quote: Alexey from Perm
                    From my comment it’s clear that I have critical thinking

                    This is noticeable, especially your thinking in relation to the parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Victory! Good luck in your hard work!
                    1. -3
                      12 February 2020 14: 26
                      yes the parade is good. I don’t like it when they hang noodles on their ears, and they mask in parades miscalculations, headaches, theft and fraud.
    26. 0
      12 February 2020 08: 48
      It will be attended by representatives of 20 armies of foreign states.

      I wonder which states apart from the former USSR?
    27. 0
      12 February 2020 14: 09
      Quote: Maestro Alexander
      Of course, on such an important date (all the more so in the current realities), I would like to have led the unit’s parade in the form of that time and equipment with original symbols for that time.
      Infantry with PPSh, artillery batteries with horse-drawn ZIS cannons, anti-aircraft guns on "lorries", T-34, SU-2, SU-3, SU-100, Katyusha ... And then they would have gone on the most modern. To show the entire world community the full power of the RF Armed Forces.
      I would even go over a supersonic sound over the Central Administrative District, so that some would run shivers along the fifth point.

      Well, there will be a historical block. Infantry with PPSh is no problem, but horse-drawn ZISs are already unlikely. Although if a platoon or a battery is launched, it is possible that there will be enough limbs. Antiaircraft guns on "lorries" are almost impossible. At one of the parades, veterans were driven across Red Square in cars imitating "lorries". True, the imitation was far from the best. To start up "remakes"? I don't think this would be the best option. T-34, Su-100 and Katyushas are real, although the Katyushas will already be on the Zil-151/157 chassis. SU-2 and SU-3 are out of business. These are self-propelled guns of the early 30s.
      But on supersonic - it will not cause goose bumps in people, but for the majority it will cause bewilderment, to say the least. For many veterans, such a "pass" can end in a hospital bed.

      Quote: Alf
      Quote: Maestro Alexander
      SU-2, SU-3,

      What is this?

      Too lazy to look, but the SU-2 EMNIP is a self-propelled gun based on a tractor of the early 30s, before the T-26, and the SU-3 is a self-propelled gun based on a T-27 wedge, again the EMNIP

      Quote: Gritsa
      It would be nice. But the authorities will not bother with this. What for? These are additional problems.

      In Moscow, the historical block will be unambiguous. In other cities it is unlikely. I don’t think that, for example, we have running T-34s, SU-100s in our city (if there are SU-100s at all). "Katyusha" and SU-2 / SU-3 are better not to remember at all, there is no one and a half for sure. In Moscow, maybe something will be typed

      Quote: Seeker
      Kazakhstan. Ukraine and others have NO rights to win. The UNION OF SOCIALIST REPUBLICS had rights.

      AND? Well, Russia has no right to win the Patriotic War of 1812. Indeed, according to your logic, the current RF and the Russian Empire are two different things.

      Quote: Igor Polovodov
      ... frames of the chronicle simultaneously broadcast on advertising screens in cities and villages, as well as on TV and no advertising, from the word at all, no social events, and certainly no dubious news!
      All day on May 9, but start from the evening of the 8th, and finish in the morning of May 10.

      In our city, such a screen is not in the best place. But as for advertising on TV - I support it. On such a day, she is not needed.

      Quote: Lamata
      Well, let's see, and even on the foreign army, who will be. 150 aircraft, impressive. and what will fly.

      What to fly? Yes, what is usual. There will be nothing new. TU-160, TU-95, IL-76, IL-78, A-50, SU-30/35, Mig-29, MI-24, MI-28, KA-52, MI-26. May be something else.

      Quote: Alexey from Perm
      This, of course, is all good, please grandparents, not the latest technology will go to the parade, but the concept car, which is still very far from production. That's when serial military equipment goes, then Shoigu will please us.

      Grandmothers and grandfathers will be pleased not with the latest technology that will take place on Red Square, but with respectful, human attitude and care towards them, the veterans of this war. And not only on holiday, but everyday whenever possible.
      And it makes no difference to them whether the serial "Armata" will pass through the area or the few that have been manufactured. Or even T-90.
      And for the bulk of the population, give a damn about what will be shown at the parade. The main thing is that there is this holiday, that the veterans are still alive, thanks to whom we also live ...
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      12 February 2020 14: 16
      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      People won the victory! And under whose direction? Where are the victories of the people after 1991? Stalin did not lead? Marshals did not plan? Did the factories move themselves and plan production?

      Under the leadership of STROY, the country fell apart. The people in Russia, thousands of years alone. But the system was changing. And in 80 years it destroyed what the people gathered for many centuries.

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