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Ukrainian Foreign Minister doubts April meeting in Norman format

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Foreign Minister of Ukraine Vadim Pristayko said that the meeting in the so-called Norman format, scheduled for April, may not take place. At the same time, Priestayko explained his “fears” about this.


According to the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, he does not see any preparation for a future meeting, which was previously agreed in France.

Mr. Pristayko reminded reporters that the parties had been preparing for the meeting for about six months between the leaders of 4 states (Russia, Ukraine, France and Germany) in December.

Foreign Minister of Ukraine Vadim Priestayko:

Now about 2 months remain. I do not see any preparation. Maybe this time it will be faster. And maybe we will make much more progress. Sorry, but I doubt it.

That is, Priestayko doubted not only that the meeting in the Norman format would be held in April, but also that such a meeting could bring results.

This very statement from the Foreign Minister of Ukraine actually says that Kiev is not interested in discussing issues related to the problems of Donbass. Accordingly, it is not entirely clear how with this approach it is possible to agree on something with the Ukrainian side.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 February 2020 07: 00
    +5
    After the last Normandy meeting, the situation in Donbass not only did not improve, but worsened and seriously. Prystaiko is simply laying a straw under his department, anticipating that the failure of the Ukrainian side to fulfill any of its obligations creates a real condition of unwillingness to meet with them and not only representatives of Russia, but also Germany-France. Because Ukrainian indifference to the fulfillment of their obligations is already difficult to cover up with the "love" of Merkel and Macron to Ukraine.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 11 February 2020 07: 12
      +12
      Ukraine is guaranteed to be forced to negotiate exclusively by boilers.
      No boilers - no "formats"
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 07: 28
        +1
        Quote: Thrall
        No boilers - no "formats"

        The boiler is out, the bolt was hammered into the "format"
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 06
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          The boiler is out, the bolt was hammered into the "format"

          And the meeting in Minsk will not take place. The format is simple "Boiler-meeting, no boiler, we are sitting in Kiiva".
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 09: 09
            -1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            "Boiler-meeting, there is no boiler, we are sitting in Kiiva".

            Aha. "Cauldron", this is "Roasted Rooster" in a dupu
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 11 February 2020 10: 04
              -1
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Aha. "Cauldron", this is "Roasted Rooster" in a dupu

              No, this is when a plucked rooster is thrown into the boiler and the broth is cooked.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 11 February 2020 10: 07
                -1
                Quote: tihonmarine
                No, this is when a plucked rooster is thrown into the boiler and the broth is cooked.

                But who needs a broth with the smell of manure
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 February 2020 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      After the Norman meeting, the situation in the Donbass not only did not improve, but deteriorated seriously.

      Yes, this preclown turned out to be worse than parashkin.
      Changed called ....
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 08
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Yes, this preclown turned out to be worse than parashkin.

        The first was 50% and the second 100%.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 09: 10
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The first was 50% and the second 100%.

          I would multiply everything by "2"
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 11 February 2020 14: 03
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Yes, this preclown turned out to be worse than parashkin.

        hi
        Almost yes. Failure to fulfill election promises, failure to fulfill Parisian commitments, the adoption of a law on the sale of land, an increase in utility tariffs, the loss of confidence of European and American puppeteers, the betrayal of their "parent" and sponsor - bloody Beni, as a result of which the flight of officials from ministries and administrations, a drop in ratings already by 20%, not counting the smaller blunders in politics and economics. "Hence the lice."
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 14: 12
          0
          There are jesters. Smart people.
          There are clowns. Also far from fools.
          And there are puppets. There is nothing to say about their mental abilities.
          So here he is a clown in the body of a puppet, who thought that now she would increase her mind and no one would pull the strings, but was deeply mistaken
          If you used to jerk like gently, now it's rude and flaunting, but your mind has become less
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 11 February 2020 07: 32
      +2
      A meeting for the sake of a meeting, to raise Zelensky's rating is not needed for nothing! By the way, “to the question of the birds!” U-Kroinsky Naftogaz wants to put forward a train of claims for billions of dollars to Gazprom again! Freebie for their taste, milk Russia! It was necessary not to pay anything to Gazprom and run the pipeline itself past Denmark, and not conclude a new, shameful contract with the blackmailers for another long 5 years.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 11
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Meeting for the sake of meeting, to raise the rating of Zelensky and for nothing is not needed!

        Putin and Merkel do not want to drink tea with Monikoiselensky in Minsk. This they can do in Moscow without Zelensky.
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 11 February 2020 09: 59
          +1
          But what can Zelensky say if Trump decides everything for him !?
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 11 February 2020 13: 11
          +2
          So all in May and so gather. Without Zelensky.
          In the meantime, Trump’s elections will not be held - nothing will change in Ukraine. Alas.
          After the elections, he will start stirring up the "deal". Then maybe something will change.
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 11 February 2020 17: 48
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        Meeting for the sake of meeting, to raise the rating of Zelensky and for nothing is not needed!

        hi
        And it will not be until the signed decisions of the Paris summit are implemented.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 February 2020 07: 11
    +3
    Will not meet with Zelensky? And they will do the right thing. What can you negotiate with "not a sucker"? Who is just a pea jester ... does not solve anything and is not capable of anything ...
    1. Sergey Olegovich
      Sergey Olegovich 11 February 2020 07: 57
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Which is just a pea jester ... does not solve anything and is not capable of anything ...

      I agree.
      Why meet, look at each other? The meaning of the meetings, if from the previous agreements only one point of exchange of prisoners was implemented.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 09: 05
        0
        Quote: Sergey Olegovich
        if from the previous agreements only one prisoner exchange point has been implemented.

        Yes, and that in a truncated form.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 11 February 2020 09: 23
        +1
        Quote: Sergey Olegovich
        implemented only one prisoner exchange point

        One of the exchanges provided for in the clause of the Minsk agreements. By the way, from the Ukrainian side, for the most part, they did not change prisoners from the LPNR at all, but Ukrainian political prisoners. Simply, previously captured hostages, as they cynically put it "exchange fund".
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 February 2020 09: 43
          0
          Quote: orionvitt
          as they cynically express "exchange fund".

          They already ranked the remains of N. Kuznetsov there.
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 11 February 2020 07: 26
    0
    Accordingly, it is not entirely clear how with this approach it is possible to agree on something with the Ukrainian side.

    There was never anything to agree with her on.
    And, if by some miracle it turned out, then these agreements were not fulfilled.
    At what they declared us guilty
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 19
      +1
      Quote: Lipchanin
      There was never anything to agree with her on.

      Any geek knows what to do with a 404 error.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 February 2020 09: 44
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Any geek knows what to do with a 404 error.

        I never thought I could hate IT like that
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 February 2020 10: 07
          +1
          Quote: Lipchanin
          I never thought I could hate IT like that

          Yes, it's not only you alone.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 February 2020 10: 10
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Yes, it's not only you alone.

            Yes I see...
  4. Den717
    Den717 11 February 2020 07: 30
    +1
    Given that Priestayko’s entire track record is somehow related to cooperation with Canada, the United States and NATO, there is every reason to believe that he will work out the ideas of the above entities. Then his statements on the implementation of the Minsk agreements, on the upcoming meeting, become clear. The US does not seek to resolve the situation in the Donbass. Their main goal is the maximum disintegration of Ukraine and Russia. In parallel, the United States is doing everything possible to destroy the economic potential of Ukraine, so that in the future it would not be of interest to Russia, and in the case of the settlement of political processes would become a stone on the neck of the Russian economy. And yes, they, these US actions, are quite successful in this direction. And according to the Norman format - this is solid masturbation. Time will be killed, there will be no use for the peace process. Zelensky is not a person who could resist the American line prescribed for Ukraine.
  5. Fedorov
    Fedorov 11 February 2020 07: 46
    +1
    Jokes are already circulating in Ukraine around the Ukrainian government. I’m silent already, otherwise I’ll get a ban.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 30
      -1
      Quote: Fedorov
      Anecdoes are already circulating in Ukraine across the Ukrainian government.

      As long as I live, there are so many anecdotes about "404". I especially like "Where the Ukrainian went, there is nothing for the Hades to do". But for some reason Hades live and rejoice, while Ukrainians exist and cry.
  6. Lamata
    Lamata 11 February 2020 07: 58
    -1
    Professionalism Ukrainian government otvet doubt.
  7. Cowbra
    Cowbra 11 February 2020 08: 28
    +1
    What's the point? You signed the Shtanmayer formula last time - you were FORCED to sign it at the end. And the last time there was a meeting - only on your initiative, you wept it out since August. as a result, you were bent over and forced to sign commitments. in which the first point - the termination of the database and the withdrawal of troops - you did nothing. Serious people "for simple talk" do not meet with liars
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 February 2020 08: 30
      -1
      Quote: Cowbra
      serious people "just to talk" - do not meet

      It's not sunflower seeds on the mound in the evening
      Or on a bench near the entrance to neighbors "wash the bones"
    2. Lamata
      Lamata 11 February 2020 08: 45
      -1
      So Petya signed those agreements, and Zele's inheritance abhorrent, Zele has her own "new" way, but strikingly similar to the old one.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 11 February 2020 08: 46
        0
        So, the formula of Shtanmaer Zel signed already ...
        And so, I agree - one Satan
        1. Lamata
          Lamata 11 February 2020 09: 45
          0
          They discussed and agreed with Peta, and Zelya, that, Zelya sold the memory of his grandfather for a cookie.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 February 2020 09: 24
        -1
        Quote: Lamata
        Zeli has her own "new" way, but strikingly similar to the old one.

        What Petya, what Zelya has, there is only one way, to a brighter future, where the native party and its first secretary of the Washington regional committee will order.
  8. sgr291158
    sgr291158 11 February 2020 09: 05
    0
    Here, just do not understand how you can agree on something with them.
    1. Lamata
      Lamata 11 February 2020 11: 28
      -2
      And nobody knows, it’s really possible to agree. And so, I think, to return the Crimea to them, to admit that we are fighting in the Donbas, to recognize the Holodomor, to gas — transit to tear up gas, and to them gas at 40 cu 1000 cubic meters, compensation for the occupation of Ukraine and other wet dreams.
  9. alien
    alien 11 February 2020 10: 42
    0
    Quote: Den717
    The US does not seek to resolve the situation in the Donbass.

    Not only that. Now no one will give V. Zelensky a hand.

    “The entire European Union is in the past the Hitlerite coalition or those who bowed before it. There was not a single country opposed to Hitler. France was also defeated, and its factories worked for Germany.

    That's who is judging us right now. And they tell us when it was necessary to free Auschwitz, they tell us about equal responsibility - those who attacked us, who were with Hitler.

    And the fact that yesterday Zelensky, a man born in the Soviet Union, declared equal responsibility, is a monstrous sacrilege. I do not think that now he will be a handshake for anyone who cherishes the memory of the Great Victory. "

    Vyacheslav Nikonov
    https://vz.ru/opinions/2020/1/28/1020681.html
  10. iouris
    iouris 11 February 2020 12: 56
    0
    In this situation, the rat has one option - a throw to Donetsk and Lugansk.
    1. alien
      alien 11 February 2020 13: 34
      +1
      HANDS CALL
      "My grandfather who died in the war called me,
      And he asked: "Tell those who remain in the country,
      Which I saved that my entire regiment mourned,
      That from the Slavic bullets Slavic son was killed.

      He told me: I’m looking at you from here.
      And I regret that my hour struck early.
      I, if I had not died then for you for all,
      I would tell you now that the worst sin

      Killing each other on their own land,
      Thus amusing the enemy. After all, brothers are you all.
      The huge Colosseum from here I see.
      The arena is covered in blood (my fathers land).

      And spectators from the stands only bleed you.
      After all, the ocean is calmer now.
      They like your fight, their stakes are great.
      The smaller you become, the sweeter it will be.

      The Slavic world is powerful, and we have one enemy.
      How your blindness chills my soul!
      I fell in the 43rd, but I saved you from slavery.
      Soldier my advice listen now:

      ONLY THE Muzzle was TURNED ON AN EXTERNAL ENEMY,
      SHOWING SENSE THAT THE HOMELAND IS ONE,
      JUST REMEMBERING ITS SOURCE
      AND RISING BACK TO BACK,
      YOU WILL WIN THEM IN A HOLY (AGAIN) WAR. "

      - "Grandfather, don't hang up. I'll give them everything.
      Grandfather, you still call. We really need you.
      Your land is on fire. Here is a quarter century battle
      For souls and minds, for our memory. Wait!

      I want to ask: when will the war end? "
      - "When you realize that you have one country."
  11. ANB
    ANB 11 February 2020 20: 34
    -1
    Quote: Thrifty
    It was necessary for Gazprom not to pay anything and to lead the pipe by Denmark itself, and not to conclude a new, shameful contract with the blackmailers for another 5 years.

    They paid in vain, but the contract was normally concluded. Minimum load at a fixed price. Pumping for Ukraine will be, if not unprofitable, then without profit.
  12. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 12 February 2020 00: 16
    +2
    "Itch" V. Zelensky tongue he will personally bypass everyone (the President of Russia, the President of France, the Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany) and submit a petition with a request for a "gathering" in the "Normandy Format" ... but why would BUSINESS PEOPLE meet with "I didn't l about x wassat "?