It is planned to modernize the main battle tank of the Bulgarian army T-72


This year, Bulgaria has planned the launch of a project to modernize its main combat tanks T-72. For this purpose, the government has budgeted 50 million leva, which is 1,8 billion in terms of Russian rubles. Now in the Bulgarian army there are up to 90 units of this equipment.


Last year, 10 T-72 tanks were overhauled in Bulgaria, and three more cars are being repaired now.

But in order for Bulgarian tanks to meet modern requirements, they need modernization. They need updated battle control systems, sighting devices, and laser warning early warning equipment. T-72 will also receive more advanced communication systems and shells with increased range.

Although some Eastern European countries, including Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, already have experience with such modernization of tanks, Bulgaria will not turn to them for help. With a high degree of probability, the modernization of the T-72 will be carried out in Israel.

The Ministry of Defense believes that the Bulgarian holding of military repair factories Terem, which is part of the structure of the military department, should take part in the improvement of tanks.
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  1. svp67 10 February 2020 14: 04 New
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    Although some Eastern European countries, including Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, already have experience with such modernization of tanks, Bulgaria will not turn to them for help. With a high degree of probability, the modernization of the T-72 will be carried out in Israel.
    Not bad projects have Czechs, Slovaks and Poles. But Israel can offer a decent modernization, for any money. We are waiting for what happens ...
    1. Thrall 10 February 2020 14: 14 New
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      The Israelis at one time modernized the Soviet T-54, E-55 and T-62, captured from the Egyptians and Syrians, under the name "Tiran".
    2. kapitan92 10 February 2020 14: 15 New
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      Quote: svp67
      We are waiting for what happens ...

      Back in 2010, the Israeli company Elbit Systems signed a contract for the modernization of Azerbaijani T-72 tanks.
      The choice in favor of Elbit Systems was made following a tender in which, in addition to an Israeli company, Turkish Aselsan participated.


      As part of the tender, Elbit Systems installed new fire control systems and armor, surveillance systems on Azerbaijani tanks.
      The amount of the transaction is 56 million dollars.
      https://vpk.name/news/45509_izrail_moderniziruet_azerbaidzhanskie_tanki_t-72.html.
      1. svp67 10 February 2020 14: 18 New
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        Quote: kapitan92
        Back in 2010

        In 2008, following the results of the war with Georgia, we got the modernized T-72 armies of Georgia, which were modernized according to the Israeli version
        1. kapitan92 10 February 2020 14: 29 New
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          Quote: svp67
          Quote: kapitan92
          Back in 2010

          In 2008, following the results of the war with Georgia, we got the modernized T-72 armies of Georgia, which were modernized according to the Israeli version

          And there is! T-72 version SIM1. Parts of the 58th army were able to capture dozens of Georgian tanks in perfect working order. These combat vehicles ended up in Kubinka, where they were tested. Georgian trophies have not shown any special advantages in comparison with the Russian modernized T-72s. hi
    3. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 14: 22 New
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      But Israel can offer a decent modernization, for any money.


      Yesterday there was news about this modernization on TV. Israel offers the so-called "glass armor" - 360 degree visibility through glasses. And there are all modern jokes, plus KAZ.
      1. svp67 10 February 2020 14: 33 New
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        Quote: Keyser Soze
        And there are all modern jokes, plus KAZ.

        And the price of all these "Pribluda" they announced? Can it be cheaper to buy a new Leclerc from France?
        1. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 14: 38 New
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          The price of all these "Pribluda" they announced? Can it be cheaper to buy a new Leclerc from France?


          laughing And it’s quite possible, quite possible ... In any case, it will be terribly expensive, but we do not have money for a new tank, training, infrastructure, repair, etc. The complex for introducing new equipment. In the new year, new fighters were bought this way and that, and the other day tenders for new infantry fighting vehicles and two new corvettes will end, so we spent the money. But modernization with the Israelis is a good choice. And everything will be carried out in our factories.
          1. knn54 10 February 2020 15: 14 New
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            About 15 years ago, Israel modernized the Bulgarian Mi-24. Apparently, the "bros" were satisfied.
            And quality, and rollback.
            1. figwam 10 February 2020 16: 15 New
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              Only the USSR could arm all the union republics.
              1. svp67 10 February 2020 18: 39 New
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                Quote: figvam
                Only the USSR could arm all the union republics.

                Why only ...? That's only the United States is able to arm itself and all its allies with fifth-generation aircraft ...
                1. figwam 10 February 2020 19: 20 New
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                  Quote: svp67
                  That's only the United States is able to arm itself and all its allies with fifth-generation aircraft ...

                  No, they will sell for a lot of money, but the USSR did not make money on its allies, gave everything on credit, and then wrote off, not a single country in the world is capable of this.
        2. pytar 10 February 2020 18: 12 New
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          On 08.02.2020, the media announced that the Israeli project was issued for approx. 500 thousand. Euro / 1 ex taking into account the fact that the Bulgarian VMZ Terem will participate in repairs. It is also reported that the option of modernization was chosen at a cost of 4-5 tanks (2 -2,5 million euros) is comparable to the purchase prices of one new one. Leclerc costs approx. 8,5 million euros, Leo-II 7,7 million euros, Abrams M1 - 7,8 million euros, T-90 approx. 3,8 million euros. So, most likely the real cost will be much higher. The upgraded T-72 will be fully digitalized. He will receive a new SLA, high-quality night sighting devices, new communication systems, a system for early warning of laser radiation. In addition, after modernization, it will be able to use new ammunition with increased striking ability and accuracy.

          According to Israeli experts, the Soviet tanks have a very well-thought-out design, but weak observation, aiming devices and everything related to "awareness systems." The combination of a strong “skeleton” of 72 matches with advanced Israeli electronic filling gives a significant increase in the combat capabilities of this monstrous machine!
          1. svp67 10 February 2020 18: 42 New
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            Quote: pytar
            The combination of a strong “skeleton” of 72 matches with advanced Israeli electronic filling gives a significant increase in the combat capabilities of this monstrous machine!

            It didn’t help the Georgians ... in the tank, except for its strong "skeleton" and advanced electronics, it was necessary that the crew also had a "strong spirit"
            P / S And why didn’t the Israelis offer the option of replacing the engine and transmission? What time were burned and not at least experiment more ...
            1. pytar 10 February 2020 19: 30 New
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              Of course the crew is important. And the crew to the strong spirit of a good car, even more important.
              Engine, transmission ... If the mass does not increase and the old ones will pull quite normal. I suppose that the stage of modernization is limited by budget.
      2. kapitan92 10 February 2020 14: 41 New
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        Israel offers the so-called "glass armor" - 360 degree visibility through glasses. And there are all modern jokes, plus KAZ.

        "Seats", that is, the budget for modernization is not enough for all modern jokes!
        50 million lev = 25,6 million euros In the best case, get the Georgian version of T72 SIM 1, or the Azerbaijani T 72 Aslan (Leo).
        1. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 14: 46 New
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          50 million leva = 25,6 million euros


          This is the initial amount :) For the year. And what will end Yahweh knows ... laughing

          We started with the fighters and then paid 1,2 billion dollars .. laughing
    4. Invoce 10 February 2020 14: 24 New
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      Quote: svp67
      Although some Eastern European countries, including Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, already have experience with such modernization of tanks, Bulgaria will not turn to them for help. With a high degree of probability, the modernization of the T-72 will be carried out in Israel.
      Not bad projects have Czechs, Slovaks and Poles. But Israel can offer a decent modernization, for any money. We are waiting for what happens ...

      For the "brothers" who have asked and received help from Russia for their entire history, and then joined the coalition and fought against Russia (from the Tsar’s manifesto ... "The Unprecedented Fulfilled"), the best choice would be to upgrade UkrOboronProm ... As part of the European Solidarity
      1. Vladimir_2U 10 February 2020 15: 38 New
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        In fairness, Bulgaria, of course, declared war on the USSR, but not a single Bulgarian soldier fought against the USSR / Russia. And she even pulled Me-109 and Pz-4 (seems) from Germany for herself, even if it’s not much, but this technique was not against the Soviet troops.
        1. Invoce 10 February 2020 16: 17 New
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          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          In fairness, Bulgaria, of course, declared war on the USSR, but not a single Bulgarian soldier fought against the USSR / Russia. And she even pulled Me-109 and Pz-4 (seems) from Germany for herself, even if it’s not much, but this technique was not against the Soviet troops.

          no In fairness ... They fought as part of the Wehrmacht, and the fact that the war with Bulgaria lasted only 3 days was not the merit of Bulgaria ... and they tried not to take prisoners into 1 world Bulgarian, for their atrocities against the Russian army
        2. Invoce 10 February 2020 16: 39 New
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          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          In fairness, Bulgaria, of course, declared war on the USSR, but not a single Bulgarian soldier fought against the USSR / Russia. And she even pulled Me-109 and Pz-4 (seems) from Germany for herself, even if it’s not much, but this technique was not against the Soviet troops.

          By the way, in fairness
          Article from here, from VO

          They forgot about Shipka

          Bulgaria did not lag behind its neighbors. In 1934, Kimon Georgiev, who led the militarized political organization “Link”, very similar to the Italian fascists, organized a military coup and soon took the post of prime minister and minister of justice at the same time. A tough authoritarian regime was established in Bulgaria, censorship was introduced, and all political parties were banned. Soon Cimon was fired, but the foreign policy and domestic political pro-fascist course remained with certain consequences. As a result, in 1940, Bogdan Filov, who approved the Holocaust in Bulgaria, became Prime Minister under Tsar Boris III.

          But Kimon and Filov against the background of other political figures of Bulgaria of the 30s look simply confused boys in comparison with the true radicals of the country. Back in 1932, the People’s Social Movement, or Tsankovsky Movement, was founded on behalf of its founder Alexander Tsankov (professor, as well as a coup and terrorist). This movement preached Nazi postulates and actively advocated an alliance with Germany. Only the entry of Soviet troops into the country did not allow Tsankov to organize a military coup to become the only Fuhrer.



          The direct competitor of the Tsankovsky movement was the Union of Bulgarian National Legions, founded in the same 1932. The Union was more gravitated to the Italian fascists, therefore, the structure created the corresponding. Having knocked together 35 thousand adherents, the Union immediately declared that it was guided by a one-party system in the country and would not shun violence, especially against communists and non-Bulgarian nationals. Playing an important role in Bulgaria, the "legionnaires" even put pressure on the king and the government to send Bulgarian troops to the Eastern Front. The piquancy of the situation is that in modern Bulgaria, the Union of Legions has resumed its activity on completely legal grounds.



          But the most aggressive, anti-Semitic and overtly Nazi association was the Union of Warriors for Bulgaria's Progress. Organized in 1936, the Union was essentially a militarized structure similar to Nazi attack aircraft. At the same time, as in other European countries, the organizers were not marginals, but quite respected people. So, the leader of the "warriors" was a professor at Sofia University and a World War I veteran Asen Kantardzhiev. Many members of the Union held high government posts and even before the war established close relations with Nazi structures, including the Gestapo.



          To demonstrate fidelity to new friends from the Reich, the "warriors" staged a monstrous pogrom of Jewish shops in the capital of Bulgaria - Sofia. Later, this rampant anti-Semitism will receive the name of “Bulgarian Kristallnacht”. Alexander Belev, a senior member of the "warriors", will become the commissioner for Jewish affairs, i.e. will send Bulgarian Jews to Nazi death camps.
          1. Vladimir_2U 10 February 2020 16: 54 New
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            Well, where is it about the Bulgarian soldiers in the battles against the Soviet troops?
        3. Bagatur 10 February 2020 18: 20 New
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          The USSR declared war on Bulgaria 05.09.1944. Then the occupation and for 45 years built a "bright future" that never came.
        4. pytar 10 February 2020 18: 24 New
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          Bulgaria of course declared war on the USSR

          Are you sure When it was"...?
          1. Vladimir_2U 11 February 2020 06: 37 New
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            So still not announced? Then more so.
    5. Aaron Zawi 10 February 2020 15: 42 New
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      Quote: svp67
      But Israel can offer a decent modernization, for any money. We are waiting for what happens ...

      We did not find anything on this topic. Although when something was done for Kazakhstan.
      1. Pecheneg 10 February 2020 16: 00 New
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        According to unconfirmed data, all Kazakh T-72 - 300 units have been upgraded to T-72 Shygys.
      2. svp67 10 February 2020 19: 10 New
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        We did not find anything on this topic.

        Aron, and Georgia, now here is Vietnam ... Look there more closely.
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Although when something was done for Kazakhstan.
        Oh, in vain the “corner” was removed from the frontal armor, in vain ...
  2. rocket757 10 February 2020 14: 12 New
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    There is nothing to talk about, about the army in the sense.
    Expect that someone will be able to collect them in one, a killer hundred / up as it does not seem.
  3. Yrec 10 February 2020 14: 13 New
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    In Israel, what is modernization, what is the treatment of cancer - there would be money, but there is something to be done.
  4. Pecheneg 10 February 2020 14: 14 New
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    Well, good luck bro. Israel will make a good upgrade. The ruble to lev exchange rate is 50 million leva = 1,8 billion rubles. And we are told that Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe.
    1. kapitan92 10 February 2020 14: 20 New
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      Quote: Pecheneg
      The ruble to lev exchange rate is 50 million leva = 1,8 billion rubles. And we are told that Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe.

      Dynamics of change of the Bulgarian lev against the ruble, for 1 BGN:
    2. demiurg 10 February 2020 14: 26 New
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      If you keep the course contrary to common sense, you will be the poorest country with a beautiful course.
      Great Britain when it became bad, inflation was muddied by 10% and did not worry at all about this. They planted Thatcher in the prime minister’s chair, hacked a social network, closed mines and shipyards. Aligned the course.
    3. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 14: 29 New
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      The ruble to lev exchange rate is 50 million leva = 1,8 billion rubles.


      Our last change in the course of the national currency against the euro was in 1998. 1 euro = 1.95583 leva.

      And we are told that Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe.


      If you compare with the EU, then yes, although the growth of the economy in each year is in the range of 3,3-3,9%. But this is not enough to catch up with Western Europe. The average salary for 2019 in the amount of 610 euros, which completely sucks.
    4. pytar 10 February 2020 18: 31 New
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      The ruble to lev exchange rate is 50 million leva = 1,8 billion rubles.

      Since the 90s, the Bulgarian currency LEO has been tied to the currency board, first to the Deutschmarks, and then to the Euro. Leo / Euro is always 2 ~ 1. Accordingly, as the exchange rate of the euro to the ruble changes, so do the lv / ruble.
      And we are told that Bulgaria is one of the poorest countries in Europe.

      Not everything that is told to you is true. Formally it is, but ... for Bulgaria it would be more correct if we say - not the poorest EU country, but the country with the largest share of tax-protected income ... lol
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      1. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 15: 09 New
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        They are not traitors! A professional ......


        Oh oh .... you seem to mark pixel marshals ... laughing

        This is a tradition among the Western Slavs,


        In the West it may be so. We are southern ... laughing

        Under this article I feel like a geography teacher - everyone is massively confusing the West with the South and everything is there. Just to write a few epithets quickly. Victims of EGE damn it ...
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          Quote: Keyser Soze
          They are not traitors! A professional ......


          Oh oh .... you seem to mark pixel marshals ... laughing

          This is a tradition among the Western Slavs,


          In the West it may be so. We are southern ... laughing

          Under this laughing I feel like a geography teacher in an article - everything masovo wassat confuse the West with the South and that's it. Just to write a few quickly epithets good . Victims of EGE pancake.
          wassat laughing
          And about you "southerners" who always go to the North when the "hour of trials" comes laughing and there was no speech ... sit upright, or keep jumping as you rode laughing
          About the victim "EGE" damn laughing study if you are ready to DIGIT on a Russian-language website, write correctly in Russian (Unified State Exam-USE)
          Oh, you horses, my horses, the southern Slavs, they don’t touch you, but you can’t live in peace here, you’ll insert a heel everywhere
          1. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 16: 19 New
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            if you are ready to DEMAND on a Russian-language website, write correctly in Russian (Unified State Exam-USE)


            Yes, I know how to spell the exam. But just to install the Russian Cyrillic alphabet for one or two letters is not comme il faut. Survive.

            By the way ... I know Russian better than you are Bulgarian.

            Have a nice day Comrade West ... laughing
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              Quote: Keyser Soze
              if you are ready to DEMAND on a Russian-language website, write correctly in Russian (Unified State Exam-USE)


              Yes, I know how to spell the exam. But just to install the Russian Cyrillic alphabet for one or two letters is not comme il faut. Survive.

              By the way ... I know Russian better than you are Bulgarian.

              Have a nice day Comrade West ... laughing

              You’ll have a rainbow flag in your hand, a drum with a horn around your neck ... and go backwards forward into the enlightened Europa ..
              One pleases laughing Such as you, dear, not the majority ... and for the babosiks (I hope you know the meaning of this word), not everyone is ready to write any crap.
              I feel sorry for you, the former prosperous "brothers." lol
        2. Invoce 10 February 2020 16: 47 New
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          Speaking of PROFESSIONAL Traitors or merchants selling their homeland, honor and dignity (they sold everything, you already have nothing) laughing

          [[/ b] quote = Keyser Soze] [quote] They are not traitors! A professional ...... [/ quote]

          Oh oh .... you seem to mark pixel marshals ... laughing

          [quote] This is a tradition among the Western Slavs, [/ quote]

          In the West it may be so. We are southern ... laughing

          Under this article I feel like a geography teacher - everyone is massively confusing the West with the South and everything is there. Just to write a few epithets quickly. Victims of EGE damn ... [/ quote]

          Article from VO, not my opinion

          [b] Bulgarian gratitude to Russia: we remember here, we do not remember here

          February 7 2020

          As you know, you can endlessly look at a burning fire and flowing water. And still it is necessary to observe endlessly how the Bulgarian authorities once again show the most ungrateful black ingratitude towards Russia. It so happened historically that a lot of Russian blood was shed over the centuries over the centuries. Nevertheless, Sofia has always and invariably, for centuries, been a member of all anti-Russian military alliances and blocs, no matter how many were created. Subsequently, the "brothers" inevitably ran to Moscow for forgiveness - and received it. Interestingly, this will continue to be so?

          The reason for reflection on this topic was the message that the state-owned gas supply company Bulgaria “Bulgargaz”, it turns out, is preparing an appeal to the European Commission, in which it intends to demand the resumption of the “antitrust investigation” against the Russian “Gazprom”. The reason for this is the reluctance of our gas giant to “adjust prices”, that is, speaking humanly, to sell Sofia fuel at a dumping price. And the Bulgarians do such things, barely having time to enter the project of the launched Turkish Stream pipeline.

          There is nothing to be surprised at. Even the most sane, at first glance, residents of Bulgaria, who insist on the public about their "warm gratitude to Russia and its people", show this feeling in a rather strange manner. Yes, they seem to remember the liberation war of 1877-1878, in which 15 and a half thousand of our compatriots were killed, and without which there would simply be no Bulgaria on the political map of the world. However, celebrating its next anniversary, in Sofia they say something about "bringing freedom" from the Turkish yoke ... "Ukrainians and other Cossacks." Charming. And the fact that the autocrat all-Russian Alexander II sent them to Shipka and Plevna is forgotten? However, the politically incorrect phrase "Russian liberators" in Bulgaria, apparently, is prohibited.

          In Sofia they generally prefer to keep silent about their participation in the First World War on the side of the “Triple Alliance” hostile to Russia. And it’s very correct - because then, contrary to custom, the Bulgarians, whom the aggressive rage took on, fought very seriously. And not only the Serbs were slaughtered, but also fought with the children and grandchildren of those who liberated them in 1877. On the Romanian front, in 1916 they clashed violently with our units. Not without reason did the Russian soldiers, shocked to the utmost by such a betrayal, were not always taken prisoners of desperate fights at the front and atrocities in the rear of the "brothers". The manifesto of Emperor Nicholas II, in which he declared the people declaring war on Sofia, began with the words: “The unprecedented happened” ...

          What is there "unprecedented"? As soon as the eagle of the Third Reich spread its wings over Europe, Bulgaria also rushed under this wing.

          More than 42 thousand square kilometers occupied by Sofia during the Second World War, the Bulgarian punitive units in Greece and Yugoslavia, the persecution of Jews in the country - all this was. The USSR fought with Bulgaria as many as 4 full days. Well, in the sense I was officially at war. Then the "little brothers" were given rifles in their teeth, put into operation the II Ukrainian Front 5 divisions formed from them and sent to Berlin. Well, some of this came out - for anyone Joseph Vissarionovich would not allow anyone to walk on Red Square at the Victory Parade. The Bulgarians participated ... And thanks to Stalin, Sofia was among the victors of the Nazis, and not their allies - otherwise, it would now be a Greek province.

          Then, too, there was a lot of interesting things. The Bulgarian elites also tearfully requested the Soviet Union as the 16th republic, and then they joined NATO almost in the forefront, and they ended up in the European Union, where they are now one of the poorest countries. In a word, nothing has changed. Now she says in Sofia that they didn’t even rush to the North Atlantic bloc or the EU - all these vile and corrupt politicians dragged them there. So swap these politicians, who gets in the way? You have a kind of democratic republic ... But it’s a strange approach: here we remember, we don’t remember here, and there it’s not all of us, these are our pro-Western elites ...

          It is noteworthy when certain representatives in Bulgaria are accepted to lament over the "acts of vandalism" in relation to Soviet monuments. Outraged? Well, then organize a guard, catch the bastards and put him on trial. Or does multi-vector interfere?
    2. Keyser soze 10 February 2020 15: 03 New
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      Western stew is sweeter !?


      Hahaha, dear ... what a West .... Israel is in the south ... laughing

      Or dumb you bros deal with Russia!?


      Yes, we have - RSK Mig maintains our Mig29 and Belarus repairs our Su25s.
      That's just Rafael and Elbit want to produce the domes of our new BMP, and at the same time upgrade the T72. And this will be done in our factories.

      Come on - offer better Rafael domes and better glass armor than Elbit and start doing in our factories, and everything is at the best price and just start riveting right away. But something your companies were not at the tender.
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        Quote: Keyser Soze
        But something your companies were not at the tender.

        And I think it won’t. After what Borisov did with UP, the nuclear power plant and the oil pipeline, I would go around Bulgaria for 200 kilometers in any business. Moreover, the Bulgarians again and again bring him to power. So agree with what he does. Therefore, Israel, Slovakia, Czech Republic, anyone. But again, contacting a country whose policy is governed by US senators is not necessary.
  6. Thrifty 10 February 2020 14: 31 New
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    If they want the tanks to become scrap metal without war, then with modernization they will be handed over to the u-kroin, understaffed, or not at all.
  7. Lord of the Sith 10 February 2020 14: 39 New
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    It seems to be NATO, but they are sitting on the Soviet legacy, and they will be sitting for a long time.
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      It seems to be NATO, but they are sitting on the Soviet legacy, and they will be sitting for a long time.

      Why not throw good weight! Who cares who made it? I still rule taxi! When the mood, I overtake the western! bully
  8. iouris 10 February 2020 15: 18 New
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    Quote: “With a high degree of probability” End of quote.
    This is mistake. Very common. The author wanted to say "With high confidence."
    (Well, you don’t know what “probability” is - do not use this word, forget it. Or study).
  9. Pavel57 10 February 2020 16: 08 New
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    A wide selection of performers - both Poland and Israel.
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    And where did these "little brothers" go to fight to go after modernization? Is it possible to resist the Turks? A license is available to repair Russian equipment.
  11. Sarkazm 10 February 2020 18: 42 New
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    Strange, it seems that at one time we presented (T-72 tanks were donated already by the Russian Federation) to Bulgaria more T-72 than the amount mentioned in the article ...
    Modernization will be carried out by Israeli companies, more precisely Elbit Systems, this is not a fortuneteller, according to the criteria of quality / price / technological level, the Israelis offer the most optimal options. We will not be able to compete here, we are still behind, but at the prices ... Bulgarians do not foolto pay the same as domestic MO.
    And on issues related to hardware, we can compete with both Czechs and Poles. True, there are sanctions and there is that moment, a moment - Bulgaria is a NATO country.
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    Israel has already tried to modernize the Romanian MiG-29 - all the machines had to be written off! The same thing happened with the Romanian MiG-21, only there were no disasters and losses there .... Those are also modernizers ...