In Sohu: Su-35 Russian Air Force blocked the entry of Turkish Air Force F-16 into Syrian airspace

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Statements appeared on the network that a few days ago, the Turkish military aviation made an attempt to enter the airspace of Syria in the province of Aleppo. Such information is published, in particular, by the Chinese information resource Sohu in its military section.

According to the Chinese author, Turkey has attempted air intervention in the Syrian conflict, pursuing several goals. First: escort of a military convoy, which was sent towards Idlib. Second: possible air strikes on the front lines of the Syrian government army in the provinces of Idlib and Aleppo.



In Sohu:

Tried to cross the Syrian border aircraft F-16 Turkish Air Force.

Further, the author on the Chinese portal claims that the Turks did not succeed in doing this, since Russian Su-35 fighters from the Khmeimim air base were lifted into the air.

From the material:

The Russian Su-35S actually blocked the entry of Turkish F-16s into Syrian airspace, not letting them cross the air border. Turkish pilots were eventually forced to retire.

Other materials claim that Turkish aircraft allegedly managed to inflict several attacks on ground targets (CAA positions).

There is no official confirmation of data on the “meeting” of the Su-35 Russian Air Force and the F-16 of the Turkish Air Force in the region of the Syrian-Turkish border.

How serious you can take publishing in Sohu is a separate issue. Often this publication publishes unverified information, which ultimately does not find its confirmation. However, there are cases when publications in the military sections of Chinese sources about the events in various armed conflicts were confirmed over time.
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    1. -6
      9 February 2020 17: 37
      Turks pointed to their place?
      1. +11
        9 February 2020 17: 38
        The Khmeimim base "works", well done ..)
      2. +33
        9 February 2020 17: 39
        Quote: Victor_B
        Turks pointed to their place?

        Chinese experts?
        1. +9
          9 February 2020 17: 56
          The collective mind of Chinese Yandex Zen - knows everything and everything! laughing
          1. +4
            9 February 2020 18: 18
            take the lotus position .... in half an hour bittner balm! big ones! hi
            1. +5
              9 February 2020 18: 59
              Roma hi Bittner - This is with other "partners"! drinks
        2. +5
          9 February 2020 19: 32
          Su-35 Russian Aerospace Forces blocked entry of Turkish Air Force F-16 into Syrian airspace
          That is
          Chinese experts
          or, nevertheless, our fighting vehicles did not allow the Turks to bomb? Well, not a good word! Or teeth showed?
          There is only one question - was the event itself or not?
          Are there REALLY direct graters of our aviation and Turkish?
          And there, after all, the Syrians are also actively bombing.
          Yes, and Americans fly by nearby. Sometimes. (Syria, it is small for modern aviation)
          1. +14
            9 February 2020 20: 24
            It’s not clear why the site has such a desire for a military clash with Turkey.
            The Turks have certain interests in Syria, at the time when the Ottoman Empire was divided into mandated territories, part of today's Turkey (Hatay), together with Syria, was under French control and became part of Turkey only in 1939. It is clear that there is a border zone Syria is the mass of the Turkic population, which sympathizes with the Turkish authorities and this must be taken into account.
            Russia's interests are to consolidate its position in the Mediterranean, without serious conflicts with local Leaders (Turkey and Israel).
            A normal flexible, complex policy, of course, when our VKS are necessary to indicate their presence, this also applies to other forces and means deployed in the region and in the neighborhood.
            1. +4
              9 February 2020 20: 30
              Quote: 16329
              It’s not clear why the site has such a desire for a military clash with Turkey.

              That is, the Chinese wrote that ours drove off the Turks, someone commented that our pilots are evil and want revenge, I reasoned about PROBABILITY, or rather a possible failure / mistake, not using weapons, and as a result I called for a conflict?
              Sorry, but either your owl is small or my globe is too big.
              Save the owl!
              1. +14
                9 February 2020 20: 49
                It’s strange, it seemed to me that in many articles and comments on the site there is an increase in anti-Turkish sentiment, while the main goal is to criticize the policy of the Russian authorities in relation to Turkey, aimed at interacting with this difficult but very interesting partner for Russia, with a gradual Turkey’s involvement in the orbit of Russian foreign policy, despite all the problems and contradictions.
                1. +7
                  10 February 2020 05: 47
                  Quote: 16329
                  It’s strange, it seemed to me that in many articles and comments on the site there is an increase in anti-Turkish mood

                  you see, many remember that they at least shot down our plane ... is this not enough for you to wish them harm ??? negative
                  1. +6
                    10 February 2020 10: 05
                    After the tragic incident with our plane, many events happened, Turkey incurred some responsibility, there was a putsch, and then Turkey apologized, then there was another tragedy related to the murder of our ambassador.
                    It seems obvious that the political course towards rapprochement between Russia and Turkey is not like the various political forces in the world, which causes such exacerbations
                    Similar crises may occur in the future, but in the modern world there are no simple solutions and Turkey will have to continue to work patiently and accurately
                    And anti-Turkish companies can be planted only by people who are "poorly informed" or who play into the hands of the forces that I wrote about above
                    1. -1
                      10 February 2020 18: 40
                      Quote: 16329
                      Similar crises may occur in the future, but in the modern world there are no simple solutions and Turkey will have to continue to work patiently and accurately

                      all this does not prevent, at the level of ordinary people, from forgetting what Turkey is like !!
                2. +5
                  10 February 2020 13: 53
                  These are enemies and they will remain enemies.
                  1. +2
                    11 February 2020 00: 00
                    This does not bother the huge number of Russian holidaymakers having real estate in Turkey, Turkish construction companies working in Russia, etc.
                    I am not talking about the market for our traditional export goods - weapons and energy
                    And similar harsh phrases can be applied to other "partners" of our country
                    1. +1
                      11 February 2020 15: 46
                      The main thing bothers me, I already wrote here on the site that you can not be friends with a snake. She will bite you sooner or later, unless of course she does not pull her teeth out!
            2. +6
              10 February 2020 05: 45
              Quote: 16329
              when the ottoman empire was divided

              and it was pralistically divided ... and none of their interests have been given to anyone for a thousand years now ... if something good were from them, then it’s clear ... they brought the whole history of trouble !!! negative and now, in their dreams and fantasies about the Ottoman Empire, they are sowing death and chaos around themselves !! am
              1. +2
                10 February 2020 10: 21
                Turkey is not in a position to dream of a new empire, it would be safe from collapse, and believe me, many representatives of the local elite want it there, so Erdogan is very difficult to keep the model he built
                By the way, remember how a little more than three years ago, Turkish pilots and sailors fled en masse to Greece, after an unsuccessful coup attempt
                In general, the Ottoman Empire was a completely different state and the "Ottomans" were its international elite, which had nothing to do with Turkish nationalism
                By the way, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the creator of modern Turkey and a successful military commander, was originally from Thessaloniki, a blond and a big lover of alcohol.
                By the way, he was also an ally of the Bolsheviks, who provided him with military assistance and ceded significant territories of our former empire
                Yes, and the Russian and Turkish empires collapsed as a result of the same war, while these states fought in opposing coalitions
                1. +2
                  10 February 2020 14: 38
                  Quote: 16329
                  Turkey is not in a position to dream of a new empire, it would itself be protected from collapse

                  but the facts speak otherwise, namely, Turkish troops that occupied almost a third of neighboring Syria.
                  and by the way, this is an important step for the unification of Turkey within the framework of one expansive idea, but if the occupation of the territory of Syria fails it will entail serious internal problems and a fall in the authority of Erdogan.
                  1. +2
                    10 February 2020 23: 36
                    The occupation of part of Syria is an attempt to oppose Kurdish movements and create an unrecognized enclave next to them to counter the Kurdish threat, but this option will not work in the medium term
                    Kurds will gradually increase very much with the gradual collapse of Iraq
                    1. 0
                      11 February 2020 14: 27
                      Quote: 16329
                      The occupation of part of Syria is an attempt to oppose Kurdish movements and create an unrecognized enclave next to them to counter the Kurdish threat

                      what nonsense? to protect against Kurds, you need to strengthen your border, but no. a gray zone has been created in which groups of uncontrolled militants hang out. Kurdish fighting units hang around there. not demonstrators with posters, but quite armed groups. and! Yes. there are still Turkish observation posts that are unknown for what they are watching.
                      it is an occupation in its purest form and under a very dubious pretext. soldier
                2. -2
                  10 February 2020 16: 04
                  Clear. How much do you take tomatoes for purchase from pasha?
                3. +1
                  10 February 2020 17: 46
                  Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (Atatürk is just a nickname, translated as the Father of the Türks) was a Jew and was born not in the Greek city of Thessaloniki, but in the Greek village of Hrisavgi (which means Golden Dawn, it’s funny that the Greek nationalist party has the same name :) )
                  You have amusing judgments about Turkey, that you see it in the wrong position to dream of expansion, it has quite successfully occupied half of Cyprus and a third of Syria, carries out constant military sorties to Iraq, and at the first opportunity it chopped off a piece - even don't doubt it. Why do you think Turkey will never recognize the status of Crimea as Russian, but only as Ukrainian - all because the teeth themselves are sharpening on this territory, and Ukraine would have been squeezed out just like they had squeezed the territories of Cyprus and Syria at one time - under the sauce of protecting the rights of Turkic peoples
                  1. +2
                    10 February 2020 23: 53
                    On the territory of Turkey there are many immigrants from the Crimean Tatars who are anti-Russian and Crimea is difficult to recognize Erdogan.
                    The fact that Ataturk is an honorary title like Turkmenbashi is of course I know
                    Maybe he is from a village whose name you sat down, but this is what I wrote about, about the difference between the multinational Ottoman elite and the Modern elite of the Republic of Turkmenistan
                    Turkey's actions in Syria and Iraq are directly related to the Kurdish problem, which really threatens the future of Turkey
                    Cyprus is a theme from the 70s of the last century related to the sweeping of the Greeks in Turkey and the Turks in Greece (on a smaller scale)
                    Faced with the Kurdish problem, Turkey risks falling into three parts - pro-European including large Istanbul and the Aegean coast, Islamist Anatolia and Part of the new Kurdistan, and there, you look, and Armenia will recall its historical territories.
                    Well, for the time being, it’s probably berry to maintain the integrity of this country, because in the current state no one will ever accept Turkey in the EU and it will need to counterbalance the influence of the pro-European and pro-American lobby
                    Therefore, it is necessary to work very carefully and seriously with Turkey
                4. +1
                  10 February 2020 18: 41
                  Quote: 16329
                  so it’s very difficult for Erdogan to keep the model he built

                  this is his problems!! negative
          2. +1
            10 February 2020 05: 41
            Quote: Victor_B
            There is only one question - was the event itself or not?

            It is doubtful that someone will actually answer you in the comments !! wassat
        3. +3
          9 February 2020 23: 22
          References to Sokha, National Interest and graphomaniac revelations of Ilya Polonsky (who is this mediocrity ??) is a nightmare and shame of VO that I have been reading for 7 years.
          1. +1
            10 February 2020 04: 40
            Such information is published, in particular, by the Chinese information resource Sohu in its military section.

            It used to be "British scientists have proved", but now we have "Chinese experts say". Indeed, it is strange that BO regularly publishes news from this leftist Sohu office.
            1. +2
              10 February 2020 16: 05
              There is also the "Messenger of Mordovia" :)
      3. +26
        9 February 2020 18: 02
        And what does the Bulletin of Mordovia write about this? recourse Why did his news cease to print? belay There would be some kind of information parity! good
        1. -2
          9 February 2020 18: 14
          In Sohu: Su-35 Russian Air Force blocked the entry of Turkish Air Force F-16 into Syrian airspace
          in any case, our pilots have a desire to return the "favor" for the 24th, and any crew remembers this. so the Turks preferred to "fade".
          1. -1
            9 February 2020 18: 33
            Quote: Dead Day
            in any case, our pilots have a desire to return the "favor" for the 24th, and any crew remembers this. so the Turks preferred to "fade".

            But it is true!
            Well, even by mistake / revenge (really without a direct order) they will overwhelm the Turk, our Foreign Ministry will sincerely apologize, they will even pay compensation in two years (this is if the pilot (s) dies / ut).
            Pilots will be punished. Harshly! Will be transferred to Novaya Zemlya or Kamchatka.
            1. +2
              9 February 2020 23: 44
              Quote: Victor_B
              Quote: Dead Day
              in any case, our pilots have a desire to return the "favor" for the 24th, and any crew remembers this. so the Turks preferred to "fade".

              But it is true!
              Well, even by mistake / revenge (really without a direct order) they will overwhelm the Turk, our Foreign Ministry will sincerely apologize, they will even pay compensation in two years (this is if the pilot (s) dies / ut).
              Pilots will be punished. Harshly! Will be transferred to Novaya Zemlya or Kamchatka.

              And if in the turmoil not a Turk fill up, but a Russian crew?
              It’s easy for you to build versions at the computer, and you can’t calculate what they can lead to.
              Russia has no "interest" in entering into a military confrontation with Turkey.
              These are the dreams of "our partners".
              1. +2
                9 February 2020 23: 55
                Russia has no "interest" in entering into a military confrontation with Turkey.
                These are the dreams of "our partners".
                Quite right, we just don’t want to, Erdogan gets into the bottle, he was given time (he was repeatedly transferred) to settle the situation in Idlib. Instead, time passed, and the situation became worse and worse. In short, the people did not answer for the words, and then he began to blame us, they say, they violated the Astana agreements. I am sure that we will now convince him that this is in his interests, and I think we’ll go meet him somewhere (that is, we will believe him again).
                1. 0
                  10 February 2020 00: 13
                  Quote: flicker
                  Erdogan crawls into the bottle, he was given time (he was repeatedly transferred) to settle the situation in Idlib.

                  Erdogan will not be able to "settle" the situation in Idlib. Remember the buses that took the militants to Idlib. There is a motley audience. Erdogan is not a decree to them. After all, Putin said that the agreements must be fulfilled by both sides. Let Erdogan tense up.
                  I’m sure that we’ll convince him now that it’s in his interests,

                  Somewhere to convince, and somewhere to win.
                  Agree, ours now has to show maximum diplomacy and military art.
                  1. +1
                    10 February 2020 05: 52
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    Erdogan will not be able to "settle" the situation in Idlib.

                    why then did he crawl into these arrangements, writhing himself THE WHOLE EARTH AND SURROUNDINGS ??? !!! am Well, I would only cover my Turkomans bandits .... he by his actions covers all terrorists !!! negative
                    By the way, Turkoman finished off our pilot !!!
        2. +3
          9 February 2020 23: 05
          Quote: Thrifty
          "Bulletin of Mordovia

          Much better than sohu. If you choose from two, then the first.
        3. 0
          10 February 2020 16: 06
          Thrifty, I'm sorry, I did not read it to your post :)
      4. 0
        10 February 2020 15: 37
        Quote: Victor_B
        Turks pointed to their place?

        Read the article to the end. An article about whether you can trust Sohu or better find a source of information more solid.
    2. +20
      9 February 2020 17: 41
      A few days ago, the Ministry of Defense officially announced that it had "closed" the airspace over the entire province of Idlib by Russian Aerospace Forces aircraft from the Khmeimim airbase and that this was done, among other things, to prevent Turkish aircraft from striking the positions of the Syrian government army after the Turks were killed by the SAA fire. Ours assert that not a single Turkish plane crossed the Syrian border. It is possible that the Su-35 were on duty in the skies over Idlib and blocked the Turks, but no one will officially say this now. hi
    3. +28
      9 February 2020 17: 45
      To block so the Jews.
      1. +8
        9 February 2020 20: 03
        Quote: NEXUS
        To block so the Jews.

        So after all, Jews are not included in Syrian airspace. Where to block them?
        1. -2
          10 February 2020 00: 08
          Why, they shoot from far away. Yet, they chopped off and sit on the Golan Heights, the Syrian lands, which the United States additionally confirmed (gave), with a signature. You have such an incident where you have seen that an extraneous country gives land from one state to another neighbor ? And you're talking about airspace)
          1. 0
            10 February 2020 00: 17
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            Are you talking about airspace

            This is how I responded to the proposal "I would like to block the Jews as well."
            But there was no topic on the Golan Heights.
        2. 0
          10 February 2020 06: 58
          Quote: Vladimir_6
          So after all, Jews are not included in Syrian airspace. Where to block them?

          Over Lebanon. It seems that everyone flies there.
      2. -7
        9 February 2020 22: 58
        So the Jews are closer to the commander-in-chief of his people, about which laughing
      3. +1
        9 February 2020 23: 16
        Quote: NEXUS
        To block so the Jews.
        Jews do not fly over Idlib, shoot from behind the uninvolved.
    4. +5
      9 February 2020 17: 45
      In general, no one wanted to run into too much .... maybe this.
    5. +5
      9 February 2020 17: 51
      According to the Chinese author, Turkey has attempted air intervention in the Syrian conflict, pursuing several goals.
      the Chinese have FAIRLY reprinted the message of the very "yellow" resource "Avio.pro"
    6. -3
      9 February 2020 17: 51
      In this case, the liberal mouthpiece of Sohu does not lie, because pursues with its plum an understandable goal-to spoil the Russian Federation.
    7. -1
      9 February 2020 17: 51
      From Kytaya we know better what is there in Syria)))))
    8. -4
      9 February 2020 17: 52
      Quote: NEXUS
      To block so the Jews.

      It will not work, you yourself understand. From a position of strength, this cannot be solved. As part of the interaction, you block, we block, but how else?
      We all remember very well what this led to.
    9. +5
      9 February 2020 17: 55
      Previously, VO constantly referred to the "Messenger of Mordovia", now to some sohu. Suspicious sources
      1. +1
        9 February 2020 18: 51
        Quote: Sergey ui
        Previously, VO constantly referred to the "Messenger of Mordovia", now to some sohu. Suspicious sources

        Sohu = OBS
    10. 0
      9 February 2020 17: 55
      Quote: NEXUS
      To block so the Jews.

      And the Turks can block them, when they have nowhere to put their neo-Ottoman agility, they may well send it to Israel, than they say huskies from the entire Arab population of BV, and indeed from the Muslim world.
      1. -1
        9 February 2020 19: 27
        Quote: flicker
        what catch likes from the entire Arab population of BV

        And straight to the jaw from Israel.
        1. 0
          9 February 2020 20: 21
          And straight to the jaw from Israel.
          Well, if it succeeds ... from the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea.
          1. +2
            9 February 2020 22: 42
            Quote: flicker
            ] Well, if it succeeds ... from the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea.

            Israel has superiority in aviation and missile strikes from the ground, and among Turks in the navy. There is no common border, so they will not get anyone there from the day of the sea. The technological advantage is on the side of the Jews.
            1. +2
              9 February 2020 22: 49
              The technological advantage is on the side of the Jews.
              This is certainly good. But then mutual blows will begin, as Israel will save its children. In terms of sea or land?
              1. +2
                9 February 2020 22: 56
                lol Israel’s air defense and missile defense completely cover the entire country - not one hundred percent of the effectiveness - of course)). Nevertheless, what the Turkish fleet has, Israel will survive. With air superiority of Hale Avira, these attacks will not take a lingering character, but the IDF’s response will be very painful for Turkey. Moreover, the Israeli population is accustomed to shelling, in contrast to the bulk of the citizens of other countries of the world. hi
                1. +2
                  9 February 2020 23: 12
                  Air defense, missile defense, the answer is all clear, but when the war begins, the population tries to go to the rear, if not their own, they go to another state (out, the war in Syria and how many refugees in Europe). You must be prepared for the evacuation of the population. Hence the question: in what way will the Israeli population be evacuated by land or sea? The topic is not idle, there is an opinion (it’s not mine right away, but I know that these thoughts concern the Israelis themselves, especially after the rise of anti-Semitism in Europe), that Israel is like a trap for the Jews.
                  1. +4
                    9 February 2020 23: 46
                    The population of Israel differs from the citizens of other countries in that it is accustomed to shelling. During wars, there is an internal migration of Israelis living near war zones - close to Gaza or the Lebanese border to more peaceful regions, but this is not the main thing. Israelis - old people, women, children - these are not peaceful people laughing Syrians, Iraqis - this is the population abandoned by the authorities during the war - this is not the case with the Jews.
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2020 00: 13
                      I agree, Israel has nothing to fear.
                      That's the truth Netanyahu, as he learned that the Merens banged Suleimani, interrupted his visit to Greece, rushed to Israel and requested support from the United States. Why all of a sudden, if there is air defense, missile defense, IDF and there are no (from the word completely) peaceful people). request
                      1. +3
                        10 February 2020 00: 15
                        With the fact that it is necessary to carry out a number of activities in preparation for possible military action)). It is his duty as head of government.
                  2. 0
                    9 February 2020 23: 52
                    The Turks are traditionally strong Navy and artillery. There are no common borders. If you neutralize the Navy, then everything else is destroyed on the march. In all wars, most of the population remained and helped the rear.
                    1. +3
                      10 February 2020 00: 03
                      It depends on where - in 2006, many hit the road from the North, in 2014 - from Sderot. In 1973 he read that the Orthodox massively fell.
                      1. 0
                        10 February 2020 07: 42
                        So I talked about most of the population. Dosas always tumble down from the country during the fighting. But Sderot received from Gaydamak free leave at his expense, and therefore he dumped. And it wasn’t a war, but an anti-terrorist operation. In the 73rd they told me that the inhabitants helped the army as they could. Even in 2006, owners of eateries and restaurants sent food to soldiers, or even drove them under fire.
                        1. +2
                          10 February 2020 07: 53
                          From Sderot, in 2014, they left for the center of the country, in 2006, I don’t remember this. I remember that not one girl was visible in Hazor. Not because of Hezbollah, but because of a bunch of hungry married reservists who arrived in the whole bus at the base)).
                        2. 0
                          10 February 2020 08: 09
                          In 2006, the second Lebanese, and in 2014 anti-terror operation in Gaza. In 2014, or in 2008? Gaydamak took the warriors to the seashore - to the pioneer camps, so that they would not fall under fire. And in 2006 there was a small migration from the north of the country and from Haifa to the south.
                        3. +2
                          10 February 2020 08: 19
                          I'm talking about 2014, when Gaydamak was already ruined by our craftsmen)). It was impossible to find the second Lebanese mess even in Haifa - they rushed to Tel Aviv. The migration was quite large - Nahariya was completely empty, Magaw reservists who decided to feed the cats, hungry animals (in Israel!) Were almost covered with a crowd. )))
                  3. 0
                    10 February 2020 09: 39
                    Quote: flicker
                    Hence the question: in what way will the Israeli population be evacuated by land or sea?

                    Israel will not have a rear. Everywhere there will be one big front. Even if the number of missiles fallen on Turkey is five times greater, then when converted to the area, Israel will get more. In addition, more urbanized countries suffer much more.
                2. +2
                  9 February 2020 23: 58
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  lol Israel’s air defense and missile defense completely cover the entire country - not one hundred percent of the effectiveness - of course)). Nevertheless, what the Turkish fleet has, Israel will survive. With air superiority of Hale Avira, these attacks will not take a lingering character, but the IDF’s response will be very painful for Turkey. Moreover, the Israeli population is accustomed to shelling, in contrast to the bulk of the citizens of other countries of the world. hi

                  Living in Krasnodar, you can philosophize about the superiority of the Israeli army over the armed forces of Turkey.
                  But I am firmly convinced that the civilian population of Israel is not eager to test your theory in practice. And I think that is right. hi
                  1. +3
                    10 February 2020 00: 12
                    In Israel, I lived during the second intifada - 2000-2004, approximately. These are constant suicide bombings - buses, restaurants, shopping centers, banquet halls, discos. Losses laity - 2/3 of about a thousand 200s. The second Lebanese - the loss of a peacekeeper - 44 EMNIP, people. From 2010, in my opinion, to 2014 - shelling from Gaza - the loss of a peacekeeper - about 20. I describe events where I was in radius of destruction. In 2006 - as a reservist of the IDF hi I don’t want war, especially with the Turks - the Jews have nothing to share with them)).
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2020 00: 24
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      In Israel, I lived during the second intifada - 2000-2004, approximately. These are constant suicide bombings - buses, restaurants, shopping centers, banquet halls, discos. Losses laity - 2/3 of about a thousand 200s. The second Lebanese - the loss of a peacekeeper - 44 EMNIP, people. From 2010, in my opinion, to 2014 - shelling from Gaza - the loss of a peacekeeper - about 20. I describe events where I was in radius of destruction. In 2006 - as a reservist of the IDF

                      These are all losses from terrorist attacks. If (God forbid) a full-scale war, these are completely different numbers.
                      I don’t want war, especially with the Turks - the Jews have nothing to share with them)).

                      It is right. hi
                      1. +2
                        10 February 2020 00: 34
                        During the full-scale wars with Israel, neighboring countries after 49 years try not to set precedents by massive blows to residential areas - there are great opportunities to get a tough response from the Jews on their own peaceful people.
                        1. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 13
                          Quote: Krasnodar
                          During the full-scale wars with Israel, neighboring countries after 49 years try not to set precedents by massive blows to residential areas - there are great opportunities to get a tough response from the Jews on their own peaceful people.

                          I repeat, I wish your peacekeeper not to find out the answer about your assumption in practice.
                          Since 1949, a lot of water has flowed. Today, some of your enemies have different military capabilities. And not the fact that fortune will remain on your side.
                          So it was already in your ancient history. There were victories, and there were defeats.
                          Better not tempt fate. I think so (s).
                        2. +4
                          10 February 2020 01: 27
                          Here the role is played not by the military capabilities of the enemies - no one has yet come up with a WMD more powerful than a hydrogen bomb. )))
                          The problem is the emergence of organizations in Lebanon and the Gaza Strip that are not afraid of the death of their own peaceful people; on the contrary, it is a factor that works for them.
                    2. +2
                      10 February 2020 09: 43
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      These are constant suicide bombings - buses, restaurants, shopping centers, banquet halls, discos.

                      Terrorist attacks and war with one of the strongest militarily powerful countries are two different things. There you will immediately forget about bars, discos and banquet rooms. And remember the trenches, basements and field kitchens.
                      1. +1
                        10 February 2020 09: 50
                        Oh, you know about the war in BV laughing
                        What trenches? Tell me more - about the front line with a country that has no common borders, weaker aircraft and the possibility of missile attacks))
                        Yes, and about the cellars - you got excited - during a missile attack, everyone goes up the stairs or runs into the building - time goes on for a couple of minutes. Field kitchens - generally nonsense laughing You are, unlike the Israelis, a peaceful person. Therefore, you do not know what it is about.
            2. +4
              10 February 2020 00: 13
              "The technological advantage is on the side of the Jews." This gap is closing with the speed of a racing car. In another 5-8 years, there will be no lag.
              1. +1
                10 February 2020 00: 16
                I am only for Turkey joining the club of technically highly developed states. good
                1. +3
                  10 February 2020 00: 19
                  They are already with one foot there, it remains only the other leg is moved forward. wink
                  1. +2
                    10 February 2020 00: 23
                    It’s wonderful - if Erdogan isn’t too sad - and the majority of secular, intellectual Turks, in my subjective impression, do not like him, then it will be so.
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2020 00: 43
                      "and the bulk of secular, intellectual Turks" Yes, they mainly belong to the Ataturk party "CHP" and the nationalist party "MHP". But the paradox is that the head of the Republican party Klychdaroglu is not loved, not only by Erdogan, but also by nationalists The MHP (after the attempted military coup, the MHP completely took the side of Erdogan), and many Republicans themselves. Based on this, we can safely say that there are plenty of intellectual people on Erdogan's side too. That is why Erdogan's positions have been strong for so long.
                      1. +2
                        10 February 2020 00: 50
                        You understand what is happening more than me - I talked about the situation with only a few relatively large Turkish businessmen and one programmer who lives in Germany today hi According to them, Erdogan is supported by the majority of the population - but mainly from the middle bar of the middle class and lower. Intellectuals are in kemalist positions. So я got it
                        1. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 01
                          The populations of the coasts have always been Kemalists (southwest and west), and now they are. Their stronghold is the city of Izmir. The electorate of Erdogan is mainly the population of Anadolu (middle part of Turkey) and the Black Sea coast of Trabzon and Riesa (community) and in the east, Kars, Erzurum. Erdogan has a small percentage of intellectuals, but there are plenty of them in the overall picture.
                        2. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 04
                          Interesting. In Istanbul they do not like him, in my opinion. Which cities are considered the academic centers of Turkey?
                        3. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 17
                          He lost municipal elections in three large cities, Izmir, Istanbul and Ankara. Izmir, of course, everything is clear (stronghold of the Republicans) But in Istanbul and Ankara he lost with a difference of only a couple thousand votes. (Istanbul 17 million, Ankara 5 million people) Half of these cities do not like him, but there are also the other half loyal to him. These cities are the academic cities of Turkey. A very interesting country, in terms of democracy, trade union movement and organization, with a frenzied internal energy industry.
                        4. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 22
                          He visited more than once)).
                          Perhaps in the future I’ll start working with Turkey, not just relax good Unions are evil.
                        5. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 24
                          Good luck!) Do you know Turkish?
                        6. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 30
                          Thank you!
                          Not. Only Gyal Byurya and Yasyk Olmaz laughing
                          In the areas in which I am going to work:
                          a) everyone knows English
                          b) where English is not known - I have a lot of translators - my wife's relatives - Pontic Greeks).
                        7. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 34
                          I see)) Or rather pronounced, "Gel Bura" and Tongue olmaz ".
                        8. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 35
                          Ok, I will know! )) Sorry, but do you live there?
                        9. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 40
                          No, I’m an Azerbaijani, a close language. In addition, I talked a lot with the Turks, we can say that I know their dialect. I used to travel often, then to the southern coast, then to the northern coast of Turkey. I have not been there in the last 2 years.
                        10. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 44
                          I wonder how developed the food industry, pharmacology and dietary supplements are.
                        11. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 48
                          The turkish food industry is strong. The medicine is strong, I believe that everything is normal with pharmacology too. Badly, I honestly did not understand. I am not a pro in these matters, but I wrote my perceptions.
                        12. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 51
                          Dietary supplements - food supplements
                        13. +1
                          10 February 2020 01: 53
                          I have no idea)
                          Well, I sat up in front of the computer. Good luck) Probably more than once we will talk here.
                        14. +2
                          10 February 2020 01: 54
                          Of course with pleasure! hi
                        15. +1
                          10 February 2020 02: 02
                          Food is well developed. Pharmacology is a lot of local analogues. Buds are somehow not widely distributed
                        16. +2
                          10 February 2020 02: 01
                          The gel is brown correctly. And in the second he meant the word yasak and not the language I think
                        17. +1
                          10 February 2020 02: 14
                          They explained this to me - it’s not possible at all, it is strictly forbidden))
                          Generics is strong - that's good. Nutritional supplements - not really, say. Sports, diet Nutrition? Production of paints, plasters?
                        18. 0
                          10 February 2020 07: 32
                          Yasak = forbidden.
                          I don’t know the food, the plastering paint, etc., is full. Sales are exported a lot. In Russia, I also saw
                        19. +1
                          10 February 2020 07: 35
                          It is interesting.
                        20. +1
                          10 February 2020 02: 04
                          They work closely with Israel. Recently helped a friend in Israel deal with a Turkish order
                        21. +1
                          10 February 2020 02: 15
                          For a long time, Turkish businessmen have everything with Israel - and relations before the arrival of Erdogan were wonderful.
                        22. +1
                          10 February 2020 05: 56
                          Quote: Krasnodar
                          before the arrival of Erdogan were wonderful.

                          although some benefit from Erdogan !!! good
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                        24. +2
                          10 February 2020 06: 02
                          Who - Russia? Greece? lol
    11. -8
      9 February 2020 17: 57
      Dikkat: gökyüzünde Su-35 ...
    12. 0
      9 February 2020 18: 00
      It would be nice if that would be so ... But this is unlikely ... The Turks could be stopped with one phone call ...
      And you don’t need to burn kerosene ...
    13. 0
      9 February 2020 18: 13
      It was quite possible.
    14. -4
      9 February 2020 18: 38
      Quote: Victor_B
      Quote: Dead Day
      in any case, our pilots have a desire to return the "favor" for the 24th, and any crew remembers this. so the Turks preferred to "fade".

      But it is true!
      Well, even by mistake / revenge (really without a direct order) they will overwhelm the Turk, our Foreign Ministry will sincerely apologize, they will even pay compensation in two years (this is if the pilot (s) dies / ut).
      Pilots will be punished. Harshly! Will be transferred to Novaya Zemlya or Kamchatka.

      Moreover, it is a member of NATO. Traitor, let him go.
      1. +2
        9 February 2020 18: 49
        Quote: Shahno
        Traitor, let him go.

        It is not clear who the traitor is?
        Sultan?
        Our pilot?
        You have unsuccessfully formulated a thought.
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    16. -3
      9 February 2020 18: 53
      Quote: Victor_B
      Quote: Shahno
      Traitor, let him go.

      It is not clear who the traitor is?
      Sultan?
      Our pilot?
      You have unsuccessfully formulated a thought.

      Sultan, in our opinion. What about the pilot? I what. I just know this technique well.
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 19: 02
        Quote: Shahno
        Quote: Victor_B
        Quote: Shahno
        Traitor, let him go.

        It is not clear who the traitor is?
        Sultan?
        Our pilot?
        You have unsuccessfully formulated a thought.

        Sultan, in our opinion. What about the pilot? I what. I just know this technique well.

        Exploited the Su-35? Share your impressions.
    17. 0
      9 February 2020 19: 24
      How many Chinese are there, what exactly from China is such a new thing.
    18. 0
      9 February 2020 19: 25
      "How serious one can take publishing in Sohu is a separate question." Well, why then quote this agency, which has already been caught on fakes more than once?
    19. 0
      9 February 2020 19: 42
      https://m.tsargrad.tv/news/rossijskie-su-35s-perehvatili-nad-siriej-tureckie-istrebiteli-smi_237088

      This news was almost a week late
    20. -2
      9 February 2020 19: 45
      "How serious you can take a publication in Sohu is a separate question. Often this publication publishes unverified information that ultimately does not find its confirmation."

      Things are much worse here. "Eternal Brothers" act as provocateurs, and almost every day.
    21. -2
      9 February 2020 19: 45
      Chinese fables ...
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 20: 14
        Quote: Python 57
        Chinese fables ...
        Fables are not fables, and China is now in a very difficult position. The arrows will translate at a time.
    22. +1
      9 February 2020 19: 53
      Some kind of Chinese AIDS info published nonsense, and there was nonsense in the comments .....
    23. +1
      9 February 2020 20: 35
      You want it, believe it, but you want not, but it was like that ... Or: do not like it - do not listen, but do not bother the gate))
    24. 0
      9 February 2020 21: 11
      THE MOST IMPORTANT THING!

      The tank constructors solved the problem of the lack of comfort in the tanks: the heavy vehicles built on the Armata platform are equipped with bathrooms. This was announced in an interview with TASS by Ilya Baranov, Director for Quality and Information Technologies of the Ural Design Bureau of Transport Engineering. According to him, one of the features of the service of tankers is the length of continuous stay inside the combat vehicle. “The main limitation here is that there is no way to satisfy natural needs. That is, there is water and dry rations in the tank, but everything else, excuse me, is not provided. The problem was solved only in machines on the Armata platform.

      As I understand it, there are no more problems in Armata! There is where to relieve the need, but the engine you are discussing is not even a problem ...
    25. +1
      9 February 2020 21: 45
      If there is no news, then you can think about them!))
      "Sokha", with its "sources and experts", is only confirmation of this
      "Bulletin of Mordovia" is their competitor!;)))
    26. +1
      9 February 2020 23: 52
      "How seriously you can take a publication in Sohu is a separate question. Often this publication publishes unverified information that ultimately does not find its confirmation." After such a text, the question arises, why replicate the sucked information?
    27. 0
      10 February 2020 02: 46
      I don’t understand it is already given sohu, it is like white helmets for me ...
      really from them information zero
    28. -1
      10 February 2020 10: 21
      Our central media persistently keep silent about blocking mobile patrols, and about the actions of the Turkish contingent introduced to Syria ... I recall the golden time of the 80s ...
      1. +2
        10 February 2020 10: 43
        Do you have information about the actions of the Turkish contingent?
        So far, the information is only that they are scattered.
        Well, the actual video information about the Turkish roadblocks located among the SAA units has already been presented on the central television of Russia.
        They do not snarl, they sit evenly, by the way, Turkish armored vehicles are located at the same checkpoints.
    29. 0
      10 February 2020 20: 31
      Quote: tech3030
      These are enemies and they will remain enemies.

      Why do ours go on an inclusive? I never, no money to go to another country, I will never go to Turkey.
    30. 0
      11 February 2020 11: 33
      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
      you see, many remember that they at least shot down our plane ... is this not enough for you to wish them harm ???
      Let me remind you the story. Despite our good relations with Turkey then, we nevertheless went a little too far and flew through a Turkish wedge that wedged into Syrian territory.
      For another month, the Turkish authorities began to constantly warn us so that our pilots would not fly through Turkish territory, cutting off the very ledge (you can see on the map).
      And secondly, none of the official Turkish authorities was going to really bring us down.
      But then the conspiracy factor intervened against Erdogan himself.
      By the way, do you seem to be completely unfamiliar with further events after the downing of our aircraft? Yes, we then in the heat of the week said a lot of things to each other too much. Yes, we were very professionally tried to pit each other. But as subsequent events clearly showed, that our downed SU-24 aircraft was actually the first step in preparing for the coup in Turkey. Aspirated USA. The coup to overthrow Erdogan himself.
      The task is to bring down our plane and thereby quarrel our countries (Russia and Turkey).
      The goal is to ensure Russia's non-interference, and if you're lucky, then Russia's benevolent attitude towards the planned coup in Turkey. After all, the United States was well aware that we Russians would still learn that a coup against Erdogan was being prepared in Turkey.
      So they wanted to substitute Erdogan in such a way as to cover him so much before us that we would not have any desire to interfere with the coup in Turkey.
      Particularly tried some neighbors of Turkey. After the downing of our plane, the loudest screams on the topic that “Turks (hereinafter the dirty stream of traditional swearing at the Turks)”, “Turks cannot be trusted”, “Knife in the back” and so on came from?
      But our President received information not only from their radio.
      Having analyzed the situation, our President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin eventually understood the whole situation. And at the last moment, he intervened and took a number of effective operational measures to save the Turkish President Erdogan.
      After that, Erdogan understood how the Americans framed him.
      By the way, who was the chief of US aviation in the Middle East at that time ???
      And the chief of US aviation in the Middle East at that time was a certain General Jeffrey Harrigan. Well, yes, the same one that a little later gave the command to bomb the positions of our PMCs on the Euphrates (Syria). US Air Force Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Harrigan (or rather, Jeffrey Arigyan).
      http://kavkazplus.com/news.php?id=18804#.XGLJHDpS-Uk
    31. 0
      11 February 2020 11: 35
      Quote: Kabaev
      As I understand it, there are no more problems in Armata! There is where to relieve the need, but the engine you are discussing is not even a problem ...
      Along with all the technical problems, this very toilet problem in tanks is also very important. And it’s very good that they paid attention to her.
    32. 0
      11 February 2020 11: 52
      Quote: 16329
      Part of the new Kurdistan, and there, you look, and Armenia will remember its historical territories.
      It will be very interesting to see how their "historical memories" collide. hi

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