Belarus will purchase Russian oil at world prices

Belarus will purchase Russian oil at world prices

Belarus will buy Russian oil at world prices; Moscow will not provide any exclusive conditions to Minsk. This was stated by First Deputy Prime Minister of Belarus Dmitry Krutoy, writes BelTA.


According to Krutoy, at the talks between the presidents of the two countries, the parties agreed to set oil prices for Belarusian oil refineries according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow.

If we talk about an agreement on oil and the oil market, the Russian side agreed that Belarusian refineries would buy oil by agreement with Russian oil companies at prices that are set on the world market

- leads news word agency first vice premier.

Krutoy stressed that Belarus does not need any exclusive conditions, Minsk insisted on buying Russian oil at world prices.

Belarus does not need any special exclusive conditions. We want to buy oil at world prices and no worse

- he said.

Krutoy noted that Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed with this proposal and promised that Moscow would provide all possible assistance in the work of Belarusian refineries with Russian mining companies.

Earlier it was reported that Putin appointed Dmitry Kozak to be responsible for working with Belarus on oil. It will be he who will oversee further negotiations between the parties to determine the Russian companies that will enter the Belarusian market.
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  1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 15: 47 New
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    I correctly understood that if the domestic Russian price is lower than the world price, will Lukashenko start acting up again?
    1. Reserve officer 9 February 2020 15: 53 New
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      Domestic oil prices are a dark matter. Like gasoline. It is possible that the domestic Russian price will soon come close to the world one. So the subject of bargaining will disappear altogether.
      1. antivirus 9 February 2020 15: 59 New
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        re-export left? each must drive on his own
        1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 16: 56 New
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          Quote: antivirus
          re-export left?

          what is the point in it if the price of oil is no longer the same ??? what
      2. Gray brother 9 February 2020 16: 00 New
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        Quote: Stock Officer
        the domestic Russian price will soon come close to the world one.

        Maybe it’s just that the state compensates the difference to those who supply oil to the domestic market and those who process it.
        The point is to collect more taxes from oil workers.
      3. Sergey39 9 February 2020 16: 19 New
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        World prices are also a loose concept. They are influenced by many internal factors.
        1. Alber 10 February 2020 07: 57 New
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          Quote: Sergey39
          World prices are also a loose concept. .

          I do not know world prices, but our fuel prices MUST be 10-20 times lower. Why do company leaders set themselves and some accountants salaries some as many as several million a day?
          You need to be more modest, you look and people will live easier and the economy will come to life.
          In the USSR In the 80s, before the arrival of Humpback, a unit of gas and electricity cost 4 kopecks, gasoline 10-20 kopecks.
          And the factories all worked and there were enough jobs
      4. The popuas 9 February 2020 16: 35 New
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        I’ll say more, during the crisis, not so long ago. Everyone has already forgotten when the barrel fell to 30 Baku. Inside Russia, nothing fell, and only began to grow request So Old Man knows what he’s talking about!
      5. Ilya-spb 9 February 2020 16: 55 New
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        Did the non-commissioned officer widow carve herself? (with)

        I still do not understand, Lukashenko, that he sought oil supplies at world (!) Prices? Are they smaller than Russian?
        1. beeper 9 February 2020 17: 21 New
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          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Did the non-commissioned officer widow carve herself? (with)

          I still do not understand, Lukashenko, that he sought oil supplies at world (!) Prices? Are they smaller than Russian?

          hi In 2005, the "orange" Maidanopres Dioxin did the same with Russian gas under the far-fetched pretext of "strengthening the independence."
          Immediately after the seizure of power, Yusch refused the contracted Kuch_moy, right up to 2011, of Russian natural gas at a reduced price of $ 50 per thousand cubic meters, and demanded that Russia supply gas to Ukraine at world prices!
          We also thought that for an idiot, "shoots himself in the foot" —self refuses cheap gas, because he so swore his love for Ukrainians, "his nation", and suddenly he so cruelly punishes, beats his fellow citizens in the pocket ...? ?! And it wasn’t just like that, but with Selyukov’s cunning! request
          It turned out that with mediating "smelly gas schemes" at world prices, Dioxin and its coed respectively profited more from gas-using Ukrainian populations. request
          Apparently, now the LAS with the camarilla, like the Ukrainian hucksters, decided, under the sly of "strengthening the independence" and supposedly "unkind to the Belarusians of Russia", more to "earn" on the needs of the Belarusian population (because in the end, the authorities pay for such "whims" ordinary citizens, and the media insistently persuade them that this is not the Arab League with accomplices, but Russia and Putin are to blame!) ??!
          1. hydrox 9 February 2020 18: 20 New
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            The fact is that in the Russian WORLD price of oil lies the export duty, which from this year will slowly approach zero - this was what Luka sought - he does not pay the export duty.
            But the severance tax will grow and we will pay it in full!
          2. Moon 10 February 2020 09: 39 New
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            Quote: pishchak
            Immediately after the seizure of power, Yusch refused the contracted Kuch_moy, right up to 2011, of Russian natural gas at a reduced price of $ 50 per thousand cubic meters, and demanded that Russia supply gas to Ukraine at world prices!

            Since 1998, Gazprom stopped direct gas supplies to Ukraine and began to supply gas only as a payment for transit, and the Itera intermediary company, which was later replaced by Eural Trans Gas and RosUkrEnergo, started exporting “paid” gas.
            On August 8, 2004, an additional agreement was signed to the contract between Gazprom and Naftogaz, which fixed a fixed price for Russian gas for Ukraine for five years (until 2009) - $ 50 per 1000 cubic meters. m. In the future, it was Yushchenko who unilaterally proposed switching from barter to market settlements when purchasing Russian gas, which subsequently provoked an unprecedented gas crisis.
            The reasons for this lie in this
            On the one hand, the abandonment of barter schemes in mutual settlements and the transition to direct cash settlements led to an increase in tariffs for the transit of Russian gas to Europe through Ukraine from 2006 to $ 1,75– $ 2 per 1000 cubic meters. m per 100 km. On the other hand, following an increase in transit tariffs, there was an increase in gas prices for Ukraine from $ 50 to the average European level of $ 160– $ 170. As a result, on the night of January 3–4, 2006, an agreement was signed between Gazprom and Naftogaz on the conditions for the supply of Russian gas to Ukraine through the intermediary company RosUkrEnergo and on the conditions for the transit of Russian gas to Europe through Ukraine for a period of five years.
            There were mixed policies (Yanukovych / RF and Yushchenko / EU) competition (Turkmen cheap gas) new gas flows, economic growth in Ukraine, gas debts, gas war, return of USSR property, payment of military property, base in Crimea, transit, oligarch fraud all parties
            In general - MONEY and POWER!
        2. orionvitt 9 February 2020 17: 48 New
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          Quote: Ilya-spb
          I still do not understand, Lukashenko, that he sought oil supplies at world (!) Prices?

          Strange people, these "nezalezhniki". In Ukraine, where Russian gas at Kuchma was cheaper than air, it was necessary to make a maidan so that they could supply gas at world prices. Then it was necessary to make a second Maidan to “buy” gas, already with a “reverse” margin. That is, why am I cheap, I want more. Where is the logic? Or is it such a price for "independence"? But have they really become more independent? In my deep conviction, only those states that are a real force on the world stage can “make fi”. And not those who only have to trade “their body” (geographical position and political position), becoming like street “priestesses of love”. In any case, dad .ushi for evil grandmother froze officially.
        3. den3080 10 February 2020 07: 33 New
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          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Did the non-commissioned officer widow carve herself? (with)

          I still do not understand, Lukashenko, that he sought oil supplies at world (!) Prices? Are they smaller than Russian?

          I understand that too. World prices are less than domestic.
          That is, Rosneft, Lukoil and others use the domestic market of Russia to receive excess profit in any case.
          Low prices in the world - the price of gas is rising, high prices are growing even more. Oil fat cats gobble up even more - this is the goal, this is the meaning of their life.
          Of course, father is against being deceived, he’s not some Russian or Belarusian people. He and Kolya still need to "put on their feet."
          Therefore, it should be like in Russia: fuel prices are always rising, and buy at world prices.
          All right
          It's a shame that this concerns ordinary people in only one way - pay how much they say and be silent.
      6. Bar2 9 February 2020 20: 23 New
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        Quote: Stock Officer
        Domestic oil prices are a dark matter


        on the contrary, everything is transparent here oil prices are ural

    2. svp67 9 February 2020 15: 58 New
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      I correctly understood that if the domestic Russian price is lower than the world price, will Lukashenko start acting up again?

      So it’s even lower ... It’s just that the “father’s” decided to “save face”, since even with the purchase of oil from us “at world prices”, Belarus wins anyway, it’s cheaper than the same “world prices” for Norwegian oil , Saudi or state ... to which you also need to add transport costs
      1. The popuas 9 February 2020 16: 27 New
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        But what if the world prices decrease, the price inside Russia only increases! Where is the invisible hand of the market !? Let us recall the price of the same gasoline, when the price of oil fell to a pretty price, and the price increase inside only increased and only increased fool dad then fumbles .... And he understands that this difference will be paid by the population of Russia yes
        1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 16: 37 New
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          Quote: Popuas
          Recall the price of the same gasoline

          Do not bother yourself - the price of gasoline is rising anyway.
          Oil has risen in price - the price of gasoline has risen, oil has fallen in price - you need to make up for lost profits (losses lol ) - the price of gasoline rose again. laughing
          Quote: Popuas
          .And he understands that the difference will be paid by the population of Russia

          No, most of the budget pays, otherwise the population would have long gone on horseback traction.
          1. The popuas 9 February 2020 17: 40 New
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            So I write that the old man doesn’t need it, there will be a crisis, he will buy 30 Baku dollars, and not 60 as inside Russia! Though zamususytes, just can not understand.
            1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 17: 44 New
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              Quote: Popuas
              30 Baku to buy, not 60 as inside Russia!

              What if it’s the other way around? Then you have to bite your elbows.
              1. The popuas 9 February 2020 20: 37 New
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                This is from the category of fiction. bully
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        2. svp67 9 February 2020 16: 38 New
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          Quote: Popuas
          But what if the world prices decrease, the price inside Russia only increases! Where is the invisible hand of the market !?

          So she lifts them. Since losses are occurring where there is super competition, here, where everything is monopolized, they want to compensate for them.
        3. Piramidon 9 February 2020 21: 53 New
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          Quote: Popuas
          But what if the world prices decrease, the price inside Russia only increases! Where is the invisible hand of the market !? Let us recall the price of the same gasoline, when the price of oil fell to a pretty price, and the price increase inside only increased and only increased fool dad then fumbles .... And he understands that this difference will be paid by the population of Russia yes

          Do not confuse the price of oil and its refined products. The oil refinery buys oil at domestic prices that are tied to world prices, processes it and sells gasoline and diesel fuel to you at its own prices, which are taken from the ceiling (or from hoteliers of processors) and are not connected with world prices. The people, where he goes, will still buy. The same goes for any product. They buy milk from the farmer at 20 rubles per liter, and in the store it already costs 40 rubles
      2. Olgovich 9 February 2020 16: 32 New
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        Quote: svp67
        So it’s lower ... Just now, “father’s” decided to “save face”

        Apparently, so ... Allegedly, he got his way ...

        but in fact higher prices are not given to them and did not impose never!

        but really means this is a victory for the Russian position: on a gradual REDUCTION of the discount from year to year: by 2025 it will not be in general.

        And this year she’s still very tall: was in 2019 82 dol / tonl, this will be $ 78. , only 4 d less ....

        It was for these 4 dollars that Lukashenko fought. It didn’t work out ...

        But anyway, Russia will SPONSOR in 2020 Belarus in the amount of:
        18 million tons * 78 dollars =$ 1 millionhuge number! request
        1. svp67 9 February 2020 16: 39 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          But anyway, Russia will SPONSOR in 2020 Belarus in the amount of:
          18 million tons * $ 78 = $ 1 million is a huge number!

          For everything in this world you have to pay for "allied and fraternal relations" ALSO
          1. Olgovich 9 February 2020 16: 50 New
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            Quote: svp67
            For everything in this world you have to pay for "allied and fraternal relations" ALSO

            Certainly!

            But even so, the sum hugeand how many hundreds of billions were already donated?

            And all is small, small ... Yes, and recognition of Crimea didn’t see something ...
            1. svp67 9 February 2020 16: 52 New
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              Quote: Olgovich
              And the recognition of the Crimea did not see anything ...

              Honestly, this is their internal affair. Now they want to play the role of a bridge between us and Ukraine, by the way, and not making bad money on it, so that they don’t recognize Crimea for a long time
              1. Olgovich 9 February 2020 16: 55 New
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                Quote: svp67
                That's honest, it's their inner a business.


                The thing is internally, but MONEY wants "outside". Oh, and they would take money from the inside ....

                The problem with them comes out ... recourse
              2. Parsec 9 February 2020 17: 51 New
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                I could never understand all kinds of limitrophs claiming to be a bridge - either the Ukrainians were going to be a bridge between Russia and Europe, then the Baltic states, now Belarus is bridging between Russia and Ukraine ...
                The Poles, too, were planning something intermediary there.
                And for all applicants, statehood is shorter than a sparrow, albeit a beak, but everyone wants to participate.
                As a teenager, after the first sex, he is eager to teach his father this important matter ...
              3. zloybond 10 February 2020 10: 54 New
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                Crimea, Ossetia, Abkhazia, games with Ukraine. The price of an ally like RB tends to zero. The point is to spend the country's strength and resources on "you and I were in the same trenches." At this time, the Turks, China, Iran are trying to establish mutually beneficial cooperation. Since the Old Man introduces a tax on parasitism - let the first one think about the fact that the investments have not been worked out.
            2. Naive 9 February 2020 20: 20 New
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              If he recognizes Crimea, then your discount on oil and gas will quickly be canceled by Western sanctions and Ukrainian ones.
              1. Astoria 9 February 2020 20: 40 New
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                If he recognizes Crimea, then your discount on oil and gas will quickly be canceled by Western sanctions and Ukrainian ones.

                bullshit, see export by country
                Potash Fertilizer - China, India and Other Southeast Asian Countries
                Europe - oil and oil products
                Russia is the rest.

                The share of other exports is minuscule.
                Well, no, then no. You can sell food and machinery to any other country. laughing
                1. Naive 9 February 2020 21: 17 New
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                  Yah? Or can you bring the numbers? Which country do we have trade with?
                  1. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 33 New
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                    As an example
                    Kaliyka for 16 years
                    Brazil - 1231 thousand tons, 430 million dollars;
                    China - 887 thousand tons, $ 290 million;
                    India - 635 thousand tons, 233 million dollars;
                    Indonesia - 371 thousand tons, 134 million dollars;
                    Malaysia - 328 thousand tons, 105 million dollars;
                    from 50 to 100 million dollars of mineral fertilizers are exported to Bangladesh, Vietnam, Norway, Poland, USA, Thailand.


                    18-year export figures
                    38,3% of the Russian Federation
                    12% Ukraine (for the most part oil products + coal)
                    17,5% UK + Netherlands + Germany (most of them are petroleum products)

                    Total 67,5
                    belstat.gov.by/ofitsialnaya-statistika/realny-sector-ekonomiki/vneshnyaya-torgovlya/
                    1. Naive 9 February 2020 22: 21 New
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                      Even by your numbers, at least 30% goes west and Ukraine! And why would onion be your oil if he could not sell it?
                      1. Astoria 9 February 2020 22: 24 New
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                        Well, as if the Republic of Belarus has been living under sanctions for twenty years and nothing, it trades in oil products and oil left and right. Or do you think that maybe for the recognition of the Crimea, the Republic of Belarus would have declared an embargo, like Iran for a single bomb? laughing
                      2. Olgovich 10 February 2020 10: 09 New
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                        Quote: Naive
                        Even by your numbers, at least 30% goes west and Ukraine!

                        Ukraine and Europe buys petroleum products even in RUSSIAdirect t.s. party yes
              2. cat Rusich 10 February 2020 19: 51 New
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                Recognize Crimea as one with Russia = show yourself a MAN good . Who is afraid of "wolves" (Western sanctions am ) - let him sit "at home" (does not meddle in world politics sad ).
        2. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 03 New
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          Quote: Olgovich
          Quote: svp67
          So it’s lower ... Just now, “father’s” decided to “save face”

          Apparently, so ... Allegedly, he got his way ...

          but in fact higher prices are not given to them and did not impose never!

          but really means this is a victory for the Russian position: on a gradual REDUCTION of the discount from year to year: by 2025 it will not be in general.

          And this year she’s still very tall: was in 2019 82 dol / tonl, this will be $ 78. , only 4 d less ....

          It was for these 4 dollars that Lukashenko fought. It didn’t work out ...

          But anyway, Russia will SPONSOR in 2020 Belarus in the amount of:
          18 million tons * 78 dollars =$ 1 millionhuge number! request

          I read about the same layout recently in an article !!

          "... As Yushkov explains, there is a world oil price of $ 477,6 per ton (from December 15 to January 14). An export duty is deducted from it, which in the framework of the tax maneuver in Russia is 78,5 dollars per ton ( since February 1), and we get the price of raw materials for Belarus offered by Russian oil companies - 399,1 dollars per ton, but if there weren’t a tax maneuver, the export duty would be about 82,5 dollars per ton. bickering that he wants a discount not of 78,5, but of these 82,5 dollars per ton.

          In other words, Russia still offers Belarus oil at a price significantly lower than the world one. Only in 2019, the discount is greater, and this year, due to the beginning of the implementation of the tax maneuver, it turned out to be about four dollars less. Minsk does not agree to this and requires last year’s price .... "

          https://vz.ru/economy/2020/2/6/1022385.html
        3. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 14 New
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          83% of the market this year! In the past it was 80%! + $ 10 bonus for a ton! The Baron wanted without a bonus or reduced to $ 6 !!! 4 $ for 18-24 million tons
          1. Astoria 9 February 2020 20: 43 New
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            Premium aligns logistics. Why would the clever Lukoil sell oil to competitors who are closer to the consumer, provided that Lukoil also exports petroleum products.

            This award does not take the Russian Federation, if the conditional Lukoil does not want to sell oil without a prize, no one will force it.
      3. Alekseev 9 February 2020 16: 42 New
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        Quote: svp67
        Just now, “father’s” decided to “save face”, because even when buying oil from us “at world prices”

        That's for sure! But father wanted another. After all, oil is not bought from the Russian state, but from commercial companies. In the Russian Federation, oil for oil refineries is somewhat dated by the government due to a decrease in excise taxes or even surcharges to them (oil refineries). This is done to curb rising gas prices and diesel fuel. The center of gravity of taxes in this area is transferred to the production tax and oil is getting more expensive, but this tax goes all the way to Russia: there is production in Russia, and they will not take the export duty in 2024 in full. For all "allies" even without obligations wink asking to they are duty free, hesitated already. And duties are not encouraged in economic associations; charges are made of their politicized nature, etc.
        So Lukashenko wanted the Russian state and for Belarus to date the price of oil. But the budget of the Russian Federation is not rubber, there are a lot of problems at home, which he has never had before, but he stank in the local press and blasted Putin, hoping to persuade him to throw a few billion dollars to an ally without obligations. And for pro prices, world campaigning for uneducated people.
        1. svp67 9 February 2020 16: 47 New
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          hi
          Quote: Alekseev
          So Lukashenko wanted the Russian state and for Belarus to date the price of oil.

          And they and her oil products at quite a world price, but "over the hill" and "fat" there did not turn out bad.
    3. Thrifty 9 February 2020 16: 26 New
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      For what money? Or, we used to give creedites, this money was scrolled on fictitious accounts, and now they simply buy oil from us for our money?
      1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 16: 32 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        For what money? Or, we used to give creedites

        So this is different money - public debt and private capital. In Belarus, all refineries are "OAO".
        1. hydrox 9 February 2020 16: 51 New
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          That is why the people today are banking, so that changes to the Constitution MANDATORY contain the nationalization of the subsoil, water, forests and land: Putin’s opinion on this subject is still unknown to us, and whether it will be known is also unknown. request
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            Quote: hydrox
            MANDATORY contain nationalization of mineral resources, waters, forests and land

            So and so everything is state, the state takes money for using all this. And even if you buy land, it will be yours only as long as you pay the tax.
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            Quote: hydrox
            MANDATORY contain nationalization of mineral resources, waters, forests and land

            I think that, in your understanding, is the allocation to each Russian a piece of the oil field ??? what wassat
            1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 17: 14 New
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              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              a piece of oil field ???

              And also a bucket and a shovel. lol
              1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 20 New
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                Quote: Gray Brother
                Quote: Nikolai Grek
                a piece of oil field ???

                And also a bucket and a shovel. lol

                lol I dare to suggest that in this case Russia should forget about the oil / refining industry !! request wassat
                1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 17: 24 New
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                  Quote: Nikolai Grek
                  forget about the oil / refining industry !!

                  There will simply be a lot of digging - you need to get kerosene from something and lubricate the cart axles with something.
            2. hydrox 9 February 2020 18: 24 New
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              You should not transfer your (oh!) Insights to my thoughts
          3. hydrox 9 February 2020 21: 13 New
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            You see, liberal Russophobes have already noted the minuses: they don’t really want the main resources of Russia to belong to the PEOPLE, and to whom they now belong (who controls and disposes of them, in whose interests and by what right) - they need to understand ... stop
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              Quote: hydrox
              liberal Russophobia already noted cons

              not a fact ... local pseudo-communists can minus you too ... and patriots !!! wassat wink
    4. businessv 9 February 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      I correctly understood that if the domestic Russian price is lower than the world price, will Lukashenko start acting up again?

      It is unlikely that it will be lower, and it is already not serious to be capricious. The pricing of petroleum products in Mother Russia is very peculiar, and therefore constant confusion arises in relations.
      1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 16: 47 New
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        Quote: businessv
        . The pricing of petroleum products in Mother Russia is very peculiar, and therefore constant confusion arises in relations.

        I wrote below what about this particular case I think, in response to citizen Volnoper.
        For me there they throw sleepers. lol
    5. Bar2 9 February 2020 20: 18 New
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      I correctly understood that if the domestic Russian price is lower than the world price, will Lukashenko start acting up again?

      inside Russia is always below the world, so someone else is naughty.
    6. Boris Chernikov 9 February 2020 20: 43 New
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      it’s a matter of spot prices .. they can be lower than the average price under the contract .. in any case, for Minsk it’s popalovo
    7. RUS96 10 February 2020 09: 03 New
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      ..........
  2. KVU-NSVD 9 February 2020 15: 48 New
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    Let them buy it, free will ... But in my humble opinion of a person who does not know the details of the agreements, there is still some kind of cunning in the statements of the official and the game for the public or just trading continues ...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke 9 February 2020 16: 33 New
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      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      in my humble opinion, a person who does not know the details of the agreements - there is still some kind of a taunt in the official’s statements and the game for the public or just trading continues ..

      They continue:
      ... Putin has appointed Dmitry Kozak to be responsible for working with Belarus on oil. It will be he who will oversee the further negotiations of the parties to determine the Russian companies that will enter the Belarusian market.
    2. hydrox 9 February 2020 16: 57 New
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      In fact, you and I are absolutely indifferent to whether Luka’s handcuffs are sewn from behind or from the front - the main thing is that he is not talking to Trump, understanding well what the very fact of such conversations leads to ... And what, the question of the air base has already disappeared?
  3. fruit_cake 9 February 2020 15: 48 New
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    for discounts in return loyalty is needed if they do not want to give something, but only demand ...
  4. Hunter 2 9 February 2020 15: 48 New
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    Something I'm completely confused belay Lukashenko asked him to raise prices?
    1. Nikolay87 9 February 2020 15: 52 New
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      I also do not understand. That he says Moscow offers us to buy for the world, now he asks for the world .... His head is already completely powdered ...
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke 9 February 2020 16: 46 New
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        I also do not understand. That he says Moscow offers us to buy the world, now he asks for the world .... His head is already completely powdered ..

        Lukashenko, as I understand it, was ready for world prices, but didn’t want to give some kind of “Russians”
        industrial enterprises in exchange for lower prices, and Russia twisted his hands up to
        stopping the supply of oil; These desires were not particularly advertised.
        1. Astoria 9 February 2020 20: 46 New
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          some industrial enterprises in exchange for lower prices, and Russia twisted his hands up to stopping oil supplies, wanting these enterprises to raise
          World practice is such that the conditional consumer of resources allows the producer of resources to the internal distribution network, otherwise, there can be no discounts a priori.
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            world practice such that the conditional consumer of resources allows the producer of resources to the internal distribution network, otherwise, there can be no discounts a priori.

            Let's clarify: world capitalist practice.
            You can recall and compare CMEA.
      2. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 15 New
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        Apparently agreed to a 83% + $ 10 bonus per ton, as I said, that I will present it as a victory! World will be from 24 years old !!!
    2. Gray brother 9 February 2020 15: 53 New
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      Lukashenko asked him to raise prices?

      Well, there FIG knows how all this will turn out in the future. Because of the tax maneuver, he whined - so he did not forever end in 2021.
      1. hydrox 9 February 2020 17: 01 New
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        Something I strongly doubt that the maneuver will be completed and I will never believe that the oil delta will go to the budget
        1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 17: 03 New
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          I will never believe that the oil delta will go to the budget

          And what is it?
          1. hydrox 9 February 2020 18: 39 New
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            Previously, it was an export duty, credited to the budget, but reduced to zero by the year 25.
            Now it will be a piece of mineral extraction tax that will be paid by the population - the Greek will explain the details to me: I do not want him to say his stupid things allegedly on my behalf.
            1. Astoria 9 February 2020 20: 48 New
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              Now it will be a piece of mineral extraction tax, which will pay the population
              - by no means, the state collects mineral extraction tax and subsidizes domestic refineries.
              1. hydrox 9 February 2020 21: 00 New
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                And who prevented the state from subsidizing the independent Antipinsky oil refinery, which declared bankruptcy?
                The invisible hand of the market? sad
                1. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 11 New
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                  subsidize or save from bankruptcy due to the inability to pay debts. wink
                  1. hydrox 9 February 2020 21: 25 New
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                    But to subsidize and save is not the same thing?
                    And what, the state is not interested in jobs, salaries, taxes and domestic consumption?
                    And billions of interest-free subsidies to cover the cash gap to private banks - is this not theft of state funds?
                    1. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 43 New
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                      1) Article 2 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation -
                      Civil legislation regulates relations between persons engaged in entrepreneurial activity, or with their participation, on the basis that the entrepreneurial activity is independent, aboutrisky activitiesaimed at the systematic receipt of profits from the use of property, sale of goods, performance of work or the provision of services. Persons engaged in entrepreneurial activity must be registered in this capacity in the manner prescribed by law, unless otherwise provided by this Code.
                      Antipinsky oil refinery was built on borrowed funds + did not have its own production base. Wasn't that a risk? I think that the project was initially high-risk, as in the saying, where it is thin, it breaks.
                      2)
                      But to subsidize and save is not the same thing?
                      in the context of a tax maneuver, this is not the same thing.
                      3)
                      And what, the state is not interested in jobs, salaries, taxes and domestic consumption?
                      Well, the refinery is not destroyed, they will sort out the debts, find a new owner.
                      4)
                      And billions of interest-free subsidies to cover the cash gap to private banks - is this not theft of state funds?
                      and this is what you added to it, if to Sberbank, so I think that Gref, as a strategist, has already outlived itself by 2008 and it should have been time to send him on an honorable vacation. And if at all - then this is a separate topic of conversation.
                      1. hydrox 9 February 2020 22: 01 New
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                        The relations of the state with business facilities are regulated not only by the Civil Code: there are as many examples of how Putin interacted with the chinot, where absolutely unlawful acts took place (the only requirement to withdraw the license from pharmacies for overpricing is WHAT - there is absolutely no reason for this !!)
                        From which the following thesis follows: with the declared SOCIAL character of the Russian Federation, its SOCIAL essence is obliged to prevail over the fiscal one - and nothing more!
                      2. Astoria 9 February 2020 22: 27 New
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                        The relations of the state with business facilities are regulated not only by the Civil Code: there are as many examples of how Putin interacted with the chinot, where absolutely unlawful acts took place (the only requirement to withdraw the license from pharmacies for overpricing is WHAT - there is absolutely no reason for this !!)
                        once again spelling, the Antipinsky Oil Refinery was built on borrowed funds + did not have its own production base. Any other questions for the Antipinsky Oil Refinery?
                        From which the following thesis follows: with the declared SOCIAL character of the Russian Federation, its SOCIAL essence is obliged to prevail over the fiscal one - and nothing more!
                        - it’s not a question, propose you your amendments to the constitution, you look - they will pass! wink
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                        For those who are on armored personnel carriers: I’m talking about the vital and primary (according to Prospect) interests and care of the state, and what are you talking about?
  • Albert1988 9 February 2020 16: 00 New
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    Something I'm completely confused Lukashenko asked him to raise prices?

    It's simple - Old Man wanted to buy oil at prices below world prices, we said - we’ll sell them only at world prices and also a premium to our oil traders for beautiful eyes, that is, more expensive than world prices. Old Man ran to Kazakhstan, Norway, the states who still sell oil there, and they say - nice people, we’ll only sell the world’s, but as much as you like! Old Man comes to Vova and says that they are ready to sell him others in the world and it’s cheaper than Vova offers him. Vova answers that it’s not a question - and we will sell you to the world))) That is, Russia, from the very beginning, needed to sell Old Man oil at world prices, and not at his underestimated Wishlist)))
    1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 08 New
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      we said - we’ll sell only world-wide and another prize to our oil traders for beautiful eyes, that is, more expensive than world ones.

      and this is a gag !!! wink
      1. Albert1988 9 February 2020 22: 33 New
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        and this is a gag !!!

        Yeah, and I switched to prose laughing

        There is no gag - take an interest in why the Old Man was so worried - precisely because our oil companies "wanted" a premium for themselves above the regular price! And this was done for the sake of the dad running around the world suppliers and they rolled him the appropriate price - higher than he wanted, but lower than ours. And why - so dad eventually agreed to the world price)))) The usual method. on which the "discount" is formed)))) Even in supermarkets)))
    2. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 17 New
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      $ 10 is a premium for beautiful eyes, but for delivery to the border of Belarus! And not worldwide but 83%! It was 80% !!! According to the world will be in 24
      1. Albert1988 9 February 2020 22: 34 New
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        $ 10 is a premium for beautiful eyes, but for delivery to the border of Belarus!

        Oh yeah! It is so hard to get to the border of Belarus! So far!
        1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 11: 24 New
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          And you try to deliver at least a bucket or a ton
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            And you try to deliver at least a bucket or a ton

            It is very "difficult" when oil flows through a pipeline ... wassat
  • carstorm 11 9 February 2020 15: 49 New
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    some nonsense excuse me. and before that for what they bought? dad himself a victory from scratch creates something before the election?
    1. Albert1988 9 February 2020 22: 35 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      some nonsense excuse me. and before that for what they bought? dad himself a victory from scratch creates something before the election?

      And before that, they bought at underestimated prices as "friends", but they just didn’t want to integrate - you will receive sign the world prices ...
  • onix757 9 February 2020 15: 50 New
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    Well that's it, now for sure the people of the Russian Federation will begin to get rich
  • AU Ivanov. 9 February 2020 15: 51 New
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    We buy Belarusian products at world prices. Why should we do a discount?
    1. Alexga 9 February 2020 16: 03 New
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      Exactly the world? Or according to the rules of the EAEU?
      1. Genry 9 February 2020 16: 37 New
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        Exactly the world? Or according to the rules of the EAEU?

        Belarus itself sets prices - what it wants. But no one will buy expensive - so just below the world.
      2. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 17: 24 New
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        Exactly the world?

        No. Between our borders duty free trade.
    2. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 20 New
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      Well, firstly, you buy half the price in the Republic half as much !!! Secondly, we are your ally and we will not integrate you, but you are us! )))
  • Freeman 9 February 2020 15: 51 New
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    According to Krutoy, at the last talks of the presidents of the two countries the parties agreed to set oil prices for Belarusian oil refineries according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow.


    And why not a word about why he sought this?

    The Ministry of Energy of Russia called the commercial issue of oil supplies to Belarus a commercial one. Lukashenko noted that Minsk is ready to buy oil from Russia at world prices, however in Moscowas he pointed out insist on bonuses beyond that.

    https://russian.rt.com/business/news/716601-belorussiya-rossiya-neft?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
    1. Gray brother 9 February 2020 16: 23 New
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      Quote: Freeman
      however, in Moscow, he pointed out, insist on bonuses beyond that.

      Well, right, Belarus is kind of like a domestic market, but it is not a Russian region - if it were a region, then oil companies from the federal budget would be compensated for the difference with the world price, but Belarus is a sovereign state and it has its own separate budget.
      So they told the Old Man, they say, then let's compensate for the lost profits. laughing
      Already funny, in kind.
      Lukashenko immediately jumped like a goat, and all from the fact that you can’t be half pregnant.
    2. Albert1988 9 February 2020 22: 36 New
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      Do you know why Moscow insisted on bonuses over? And in order for Old Man to bargain for world prices. but not for the "discount"))))
      1. Gray brother 10 February 2020 00: 49 New
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        Quote: Albert1988
        Do you know why Moscow insisted on bonuses over?

        Not Moscow, but oil companies.
        1. Albert1988 10 February 2020 20: 35 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          Not Moscow, but oil companies.

          In a capitalist economy, the political elite is either a puppet of a large capital, the same oil companies, or directly merged with large capital ...
          1. Gray brother 10 February 2020 21: 04 New
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            In a capitalist economy, the political elite is either a puppet of a large capital

            And why is Lukashenko then complaining to them about Putin? I would talk right away with the board of directors)))
            1. Albert1988 11 February 2020 20: 29 New
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              Quote: Gray Brother
              And why is Lukashenko then complaining to them about Putin? I would talk right away with the board of directors)))

              Because Putin is like their boss, and Lukashenko is his boss, and he complains to Putin because he just agreed (indirectly) with the board of directors and couldn’t.
              1. Gray brother 11 February 2020 21: 14 New
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                Quote: Albert1988
                Because Putin is, as it were, their boss, and Lukashenko the boss of his

                You, however, will have to decide who is there whose puppet)))
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                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  You, however, will have to decide who is there whose puppet)))

                  Everything is simple and complicated: in such a situation, the president is like “your own” at an important post - it seems to be the most important one, but without money bags it doesn’t go around much ...
  • Kerensky 9 February 2020 15: 51 New
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    Belarus does not need any exclusive conditions; Minsk insisted on buying Russian oil at world prices.

    Here! I think Lukashenko wanted to take oil at three prices, but Putin swept it around his finger and agreed only at the regular price. yes
  • knn54 9 February 2020 15: 52 New
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    "Economic masochism" Old Man (after miscalculation of supply logistics) ended quickly.
    1. onix757 9 February 2020 15: 56 New
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      "Economic masochism" Old Man (after miscalculation of supply logistics) ended quickly.

      Masochism will really begin when the Russian Federation pays for each of its sneezes in Belarus
      1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 21 New
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        For example, what? In Russia, leverage is much greater than ours! Enough CX industry loans, oil and now atom
        1. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 47 New
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          Russia already pays for everything, but it can’t even reach some that without transit, the cost of a transit country is ZERO.
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            So what ? In spite of transit, frostbitten ears or planes start to carry oil? )))
  • prior 9 February 2020 15: 55 New
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    Very soon in Russia they will recall how, as a result of the Sochi talks, we lost Belarus.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 16: 30 New
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      How soon and what exactly will Russia lose by losing Belarus? Buffer zone? Fifty thousand drugs in the form of the Belarusian army? SPRN, PRO? And what is the Belarusian missile defense equipped with, "Polonaise"?
      "Belarus protects Russia from NATO." Something that reminds me of ...
      1. prior 9 February 2020 16: 50 New
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        Belarus will close the passage and flight, how will you get to Courchevel? via Turkey and Finland?
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 16: 56 New
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          That is, in your words, the value of Belarus lies only in the fact that through its territory you can get to Courchevel faster?
          1. prior 9 February 2020 16: 58 New
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            Well, Putin defended the interests of the Russian oil oligarchs, what next?
            And if Europe beckons Lukashenka with a finger in the EU, and he takes .... and agrees, then what?
            Patriots, Tomahawks and Abrams near Smolensk? Can we go to fight Belarus?
            Does anyone else not know that you have to pay for everything in this life?
            We regretted the discount, well ...
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 17: 06 New
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              Most likely, Putin did not defend, but Lukashenko agreed.
              Patriots, Tomahawks and Abrams near Smolensk? Can we go to fight Belarus?

              Well, under Kaliningrad and Peter, all this is there, with the exception of the Tomahawks. And nothing, heart attacks and strokes are not noticed.
              So you ask: "What would Russia be like without Belarus?"
              But for some reason you do not wonder, how can Belarus be without Russia? Wonderful, pretty, envy ... to whom? And at what cost.
              1. prior 9 February 2020 17: 12 New
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                There are many questions, here are the answers to them ..... they are not encouraging.
                1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 17: 31 New
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                  Ethnicity is one, nations are different. The Russians gnawed their statehood with blood for many centuries. But Belarusians and Ukrainians got it as a win in the lottery. They simply do not know what to do with their independence. It's time to stop being hungry, and return under the wing of Russia. Because no one but Russia needs neither Ukraine nor Belarus.
                  1. prior 9 February 2020 17: 37 New
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                    But we know perfectly well what to do with their independence - call brothers and spread rot prices for gas for Ukrainians (remember the agreement for $ 400), and Belarusians for oil prices.
                    Brothers ...
                    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 17: 45 New
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                      Okay. You explain why Belarusians independence?
                      1. prior 9 February 2020 17: 50 New
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                        Independence to Belarusians is completely useless.
                        To fall into the service of our moneybags is their only and irresistible
                        a wish.
                      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 18: 37 New
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                        I propose to end this fascinating dialogue on a major note.
                        "There are no culprits, all people are right
                        On such a blessed day! "
                        Igor Severyanin
                        Today is Sunday.
                        With all due respect, Venerable Vlad.
                  2. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 22: 29 New
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                    Quote: prior
                    But we know perfectly well what to do with their independence - call brothers and spread rot prices for gas for Ukrainians (remember the agreement for $ 400), and Belarusians for oil prices.
                    Brothers ...

                    judging by your speeches, you are far from a Russian !!! wink
          2. Dimonk 9 February 2020 17: 57 New
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            I agree with you. You read the comments here, and you understand that only the Edrosovtsy, the defenders of Putin and Medvedev, have gathered here. What a bad Lukashenko that he is demanding discounts for himself and what a good Putin that he did not give them. And I have a question for all the defenders of Putin and the company? Why don’t you shout that he is so good at selling electricity to China cheaper than the Russians ???? AND???? Why don’t you praise him that the price of gas is again closed information to the Chinese, and certainly below the world ??? And yes, it’s Lukashenko who took the whole forest of Siberia and the Far East through China !!! Why are you silent about this ??? Well, yes, Putin and Molvedev are young, and Lukashnko is bad !!!!
            1. prior 9 February 2020 18: 06 New
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              Yes. I defend Belarus and Belarusians. They are brothers to me.
              What would happen to Russia if Hitler had not tripped at 41 about Belarus?
              Every fourth died there! Everything was destroyed there!
              You can count for a long time, but how to count it? and how to evaluate? at market prices, oil quotes?
              1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 22: 32 New
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                Quote: prior
                What would happen to Russia if Hitler had not tripped at 41 about Belarus?

                oooooooh ... an alternative story has begun !!! what obviously you are pretending to be a Russian !!! wassat
              2. Astoria 10 February 2020 00: 06 New
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                Yes. I defend Belarus and Belarusians. They are brothers to me.
                What would happen to Russia if Hitler had not tripped at 41 about Belarus?
                Every fourth died there! Everything was destroyed there!
                - and who saved them from the genocide, maybe Pompeo with the Americans.
                You can count for a long time, but how to count it? and how to evaluate? at market prices, oil quotes?

                Your Leader said that the war was not yours, you can ask him for quotes.
          3. anykin 9 February 2020 20: 48 New
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            Can we go to fight Belarus?

            Hardly. All wars are not theirs.
          4. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 59 New
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            Well, Putin defended the interests of the Russian oil oligarchs, what next?
            And if Europe beckons Lukashenka with a finger in the EU, and he takes .... and agrees, then what?
            Yes, no question, you can safely subtract 40% of exports from the economy of the Republic of Belarus and another 20-30% based on Russian oil and oil products.
            Patriots, Tomahawks and Abrams near Smolensk? Can we go to fight Belarus?
            you know - it’s especially tenacity that surprises me, if you don’t support us, we’ll bring you the enemy to the threshold. Well bring -
            Everyone came to my house. Turks, British, Poles, Germans, French. Enough land for everyone - 2,5 meters each.

            Does anyone else not know that you have to pay for everything in this life?
            We regretted the discount, well ...
            They paid for Belarus for 25 years, 60% of agriculture and 30% of industry were LOSSY. Economy of the Republic of Belarus - Black hole. Who is guilty that for 25 years in Belarus they have not learned how to earn and live within their means?
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            Quote: prior
            And if Europe beckons Lukashenka with a finger in the EU, and he takes .... and agrees, then what?

            How is Ukraine? Or like Turkey? wink
            She may beckon and beckon. But the EU does not need strangers - there are already not enough of ours there.
            Quote: prior
            Patriots, Tomahawks and Abrams near Smolensk?

            But is Smolensk worse than St. Petersburg?

            This is Narva. In the background is the Russian Ivangorod. 135 km in a straight line from the center of St. Petersburg.
            Quote: prior
            Does anyone else not know that you have to pay for everything in this life?

            Yes - the leadership of Belarus. Which considers 6 billion dollars a year from Russia as “fraternal help”, for which Belarus owes nothing.
            Quote: prior
            We regretted the discount, well ...

            Do not regret it. But they did not consider it possible to continue to uselessly and aimlessly pay for the Wishlist of the leadership of the Republic of Belarus without receiving anything in return.
        2. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 17: 32 New
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          That is, in your words, the value of Belarus lies only in the fact that through its territory you can get to Courchevel faster?

          Not only. They can leave the EAEU, introduce their duties, and at what price will we buy goods?
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            What goods? Meat and dairy products? Multifunction displays for Su-57? Sights "Pine-U"?
            So it happened when Ukraine slaughtered a military-technical cooperation. And nothing, we produce now ourselves. “Almaz-Antey” switched to BAZ, and for this I bought it. KAMAZ finished with Platform-O.
            1. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 17: 49 New
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              What goods? Meat and dairy products?

              Absolutely everything that passes through the Belarusian border. Polish, German ... Starting from German eggs for our poultry farms and ending with their spare parts for cars. Didn’t think about it?
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 17: 52 New
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                Ah, here you are. But, again, who will lose more from the introduction of all kinds of duties - Russia or Belarus? A stick always has two ends, and whose in this case will be harder?
                1. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 17: 56 New
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                  But, again, who will lose more from the introduction of all kinds of duties - Russia or Belarus?

                  That's it. Isn't this Old Man trying to show by looking for non-Russian oil? And here we are trying to gnaw.
                2. Naive 9 February 2020 21: 02 New
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                  The question is that Belarus, if it goes to confrontation with Moscow (collective West), will provide all kinds of assistance if only to tear it away from Moscow. It is clear that the country will not live better, but they don’t need it, they have other goals, and Russia will again have to solve a bunch of questions in the oval mode (and since the past victories of the West, it has decided few questions).
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                Absolutely everything that passes through the Belarusian border. Polish, German ... Starting from German eggs for our poultry farms and ending with their spare parts for cars. Didn’t think about it?


                enter your duties
                transit fees !!! what You are not the case in one farm. Academy with Lukashenko studied?

                In general, it’s like you arrived from the planet Mars (Belarus alone earns $ 400 million from oil transit). Block transit is not a question. Russia has Ust Luga and Novorossiysk, and you? Take products to Kazakhstan or China through the Baltic states, go for it, thanks to such clever people, the Baltic states and Ukraine have already lost Russian transit - you can replenish their ranks. laughing

                Poland already threw RB in 2020 at the so-called
                permissions
                and with your ideas transit through Belarus will die completely.

                Think better about trade with the Russian Federation (exports to Russia 38% in 18 + 20-30 percent (exports to Europe and Ukraine), mostly based on Russian oil), total minus 50 to 60% of exports or a third of GDP.
                1. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 23: 46 New
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                  Quote: Astoria
                  and with your ideas transit through Belarus will die completely.

                  Of course he will die. And what is the benefit for Russia? To transport through Ukraine, or the Baltic states? Indeed, the citizens of Okraintsy will tear their tummies from laughter.
                  Quote: Astoria
                  Russia has Ust Luga and Novorossiysk,

                  Yes, yes, as they say, d "cancer seven miles is not a hook.
                  Quote: Astoria
                  and you?

                  And we have a gas mask. Who, with us? I am from the Tula region, if that.
                  Quote: Astoria
                  Think better about trading with the Russian Federation

                  Think better about the fact that we have lost Ukraine, and now a similar situation is possible with Belarus. Are we good, the rest are all bad boys? Yes, brilliant foreign policy, nothing to say.
                  1. Astoria 9 February 2020 23: 52 New
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                    Of course he will die. And what is the benefit for Russia? To transport through Ukraine, or the Baltic states? Indeed, the citizens of Okraintsy will tear their tummies from laughter.

                    A) Russia to the drum.
                    B) To transport via Ukraine, or the Baltic states? - Russia will carry through its ports.
                    Yes, yes, as they say, d "cancer seven miles is not a hook.

                    The whole world carries the sea and nothing. But its infrastructure will be 100% loaded.
                    And we have a gas mask. Who, with us? I am from the Tula region, if that.
                    - Yes, even from Honduras, fit for Belarus, get an answer.
                    Think better about the fact that we have lost Ukraine, and now a similar situation is possible with Belarus. Are we good, the rest are all bad boys? Yes, brilliant foreign policy, nothing to say.
                    - this policy of pragmatism. There is no good, bad, there is profitable, not profitable. Russia kept Belarus for 25 years, which means it was profitable, now it is not profitable. What questions?
                    1. Mordvin 3 10 February 2020 00: 05 New
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                      - Yes, even from Honduras, fit for Belarus, get an answer.

                      First of all, I fit in with Russia, and if someone thinks that the government will constantly reimburse the costs of oil workers, then the introduction of a tax maneuver makes absolutely no sense other than "stop feeding Belarus." All these refunds for the refineries are just so that energy in Russia would not rise in price too sharply. We will wait until the 25th year, we will see who was right and who was not.
                    2. Astoria 10 February 2020 00: 16 New
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                      First of all, I fit in for Russia,
                      - Well then, the underpricing of at least 3 billion dollars a year by the budget is free of charge for the Russian Federation, according to your logic, good. Then it’s better not to fit in.
                      stop feeding Belarus
                      Belarus must learn to earn money by itself or start living within its means; one cannot be politically independent without being economically independent.
                      All these refunds for the refineries are just so that energy in Russia would not rise in price too sharply. Let's wait until the 25th year, see who was right and who was not
                      And no one said that fuel in Russia will become cheaper from the tax maneuver.
                    3. Mordvin 3 10 February 2020 00: 35 New
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                      Well then, under-receipt of at least 3 billion dollars a year by the budget is free of charge for the Russian Federation, according to your logic, good.

                      And where did you draw this figure from? For example, in 2017, Russia sold to Belarus a little less than 5 lard. 30% of 5 will be a little over 1,5 lard. That's all arithmetic.
                      Quote: Astoria
                      And no one said that fuel in Russia will become cheaper from the tax maneuver.

                      And as a result, the entire burden will fall on the shoulders of ordinary Russians. Plus, an increase in gas prices, which depends on the price of oil, and lacrimony, which is also produced in some places by thermal power plants. Add heating, and count this collar on our neck. And then compare the losses from the sale of oil to Belarusians and the load that will fall on our neck by order of the WTO, IMF and the European Union, our dear partners.
                    4. Astoria 10 February 2020 09: 59 New
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                      And where did you draw this figure from? For example, in 2017, Russia sold to Belarus a little less than 5 lard. 30% of 5 will be a little over 1,5 lard. That's all arithmetic.
                      A lie, and stupid and easily verifiable.

                      Mineral fuel, oil and products of their distillation; bituminous substances; mineral waxes - 9 380 051 045 dollars:

                      18 million tons of oil without duty - the average price is $ 53 per barrel or 53 * + - 7 = $ 370 per ton, the duty was $ 105 * 18 million tons = $ 1 million.

                      6 million tons of oil is a customs clearance with a duty credited to the budget of the Republic of Belarus, that is, about 600 million dollars more.

                      Antioxidants. TNVED code 3811, Bitumen mixtures. HS Code 2715 Coal tar distillation products. TNVED code 2707. Other paints and varnishes, TNVED code 3210 - and all together this is a masking product, under the guise of which oil products from the Russian Federation were exported duty-free to the west, Duty on light oil products and oils (in December 17 - $ 31,5), on dark - $ 105,0). Products were exported * * - 700-800 million, and this is a few hundred million lost duty

                      20 billion cubic meters of gas at $ 127 (in Europe the price was from 4,8 to 7,1 per million thermal units, for conversion to cubes we take the average + -6 and multiply by the conversion factor 35,16 = - + 200 dollars per 1000 cubes; which gives a difference of another 1,4 billion dollars).

                      1 890 + 600 + 1400 + + - 200 million (masking).

                      I would tell you Mordvin for tsifiri, but I will not - it is obscene. laughing

                      And as a result, the entire burden will fall on the shoulders of ordinary Russians. Plus, an increase in gas prices, which depends on the price of oil, and lacrimony, which is also produced in some places by thermal power plants. Add heating, and count this collar on our neck. And then compare the losses from the sale of oil to Belarusians and the load that will fall on our neck by order of the WTO, IMF and the European Union, our dear partners.


                      This is an empty whining, no one said that energy prices will become cheaper in Russia, and there is no connection between the cost of energy resources in the Russian Federation and subsidizing the Belarusian economy no, and between subsidizing Belarus and filling the budget of the Russian Federation - is.
    2. Alexey RA 10 February 2020 13: 56 New
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      They can leave the EAEU, introduce their duties, and at what price will we buy goods?

      Go ahead and with the songs.
      Someone really does not want to admit completely obvious facts. And the numbers. And they are as follows: out of 5,13 billion dollars of Belarusian agricultural products export, which our friends are so proud of, 4,1 billion falls on the Russian Federation, that is 80%. In milk, of the total exports of Belarus in 2018, this is 85%, butter - 72%, cheese and cottage cheese - 84%.
      © Babich
      When entering duties, the prices of these goods are compared with global prices. And Russia has an alternative.
      But where does Belarus get all this? WEIGHT? Well, well, let Ukraine be asked about the features of food exports to the EU.
  • Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 11 New
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    Belarus will close the passage and flight, how will you get to Courchevel? via Turkey and Finland?

    do not get excited ... look at the experience of Svidamitov !!! request
    1. prior 9 February 2020 17: 28 New
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      So I watch how we fly around and go around Ukraine, how they bent "our property" by gas transit, how under different sauce, including through Belarus, we try to suck in Donetsk coal, and so on ...
      Is it easier for them? I think not, but they are not going to cave in.
      Can we enjoy it?
      Just imagine that Belarusians will solve issues with the supply of oil from the states, where, in the current state of the world oil market, Russia is sucking in the 2 million tons that Belarus is currently consuming?
      1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 19: 46 New
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        So I watch how we fly around and go around Ukraine, how they bent "our property" by gas transit, how under different sauce, including through Belarus, we try to suck in Donetsk coal, and so on ...
        Is it easier for them? I think not, but they are not going to cave in.
        Can we enjoy it?
        Just imagine that Belarusians will solve issues with the supply of oil from the states, where, in the current state of the world oil market, Russia is sucking in the 2 million tons that Belarus is currently consuming?

        what fancy fancy ??? laughing
      2. Astoria 9 February 2020 22: 38 New
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        Just imagine that Belarusians will solve issues with the supply of oil from the states, where, in the current state of the world oil market, Russia is sucking in the 2 million tons that Belarus is currently consuming?
        No need to imagine anything - everything that was not delivered to the Republic of Belarus is already sold, SOLD !!! And now (it’s no longer necessary to imagine) losses from deliveries of Norwegian oil + 2 months of refinery operation at minimum load - from whom will Lukashenko, represented by Belneftekhim, recover these losses?
    2. Dimonk 9 February 2020 18: 04 New
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      Well, how can we here recently from all the zombie channels have been broadcasting that we have to travel to Ukraine, and even more so at their gas pipe !!! And what in the end ??? They paid several billion billions of dollars, unclear debts and signed another contract for five years !!! What do the defenders of Putin and Medvedev do not shout here KARAUL AND TRAINING WITH HUMILIATION BEFORE the Urainsky Junta ??? AND???
  • Brturin 9 February 2020 18: 46 New
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    Belarus will close the passage and the span,

    So there’s a double-edged sword - there is experience - UIA - “The ban on the use of the airspace of the Russian Federation for Ukrainian carriers led to a significant increase in the duration of the Kiev-Almaty flight from 5 hours 20 minutes to 6 hours 35 minutes - and, accordingly, additional costs, to cover which is not possible even taking into account the effect of transit traffic. "
    And having closed the transit from the EU to the Russian Federation, you think Europeans will be delighted by this .... Latvia, due to the loss of transit, is reducing 1500 railway employees ...
  • Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 50 New
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    Belarus will close the passage and flight, how will you get to Courchevel? via Turkey and Finland?
    Flight Radar to help you
  • Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 22 New
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    If Belarus weren’t 41, then in winter the German would not be near Moscow, but near the Urals !!!
    1. Astoria 9 February 2020 22: 21 New
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      If Belarus weren’t 41, then in winter the German would not be near Moscow, but near the Urals !!!
      And if Minsk had not passed in one day. In general, if grandmother had testicles, it would be grandfather. laughing
      1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 11: 19 New
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        It would be possible not to hand over investments, but to leave the divisions in the boiler. .... generals and political instructors would have been taken out anyway. ... as I understand it, it wasn’t taken out. It announced where the border is in Brest or near Smolensk?
    2. dauria 10 February 2020 01: 17 New
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      There would be no Belarus at 41

      So she was not in the 41st. She appeared only in the 92nd.
      And judging by how the old man teaches you there, it's time to hang this specific prince on his own gate.
      However, in the place of Putin, I would have transferred Yanukovych from Rostov to Kiev. A good example is better. Perhaps wiser Grigoryevich
      1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 11: 21 New
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        Okay, Yanukovych is bad, but gutting is better, ?? So what then Patroshenko and especially Zelensky is not satisfied if Chnukovich was bad ????
      2. Stepan80 10 February 2020 11: 23 New
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        But Belarus was at least 41 years old or also an artificial country)))) and Russia was not in 41 and what does it change ????
    3. Alexey RA 10 February 2020 14: 42 New
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      Quote: Stepan80
      If Belarus weren’t 41, then in winter the German would not be near Moscow, but near the Urals !!!

      All these wars are not our wars.
      © Lukashenko
      1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 17: 56 New
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        Do not write nonsense! The only Baron celebrates on November 7, but not in Russia! And we don’t put monuments to the Vlasovites like in the Moscow Region !!!
  • Same lech 9 February 2020 15: 56 New
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    We agreed to set oil prices for Belarusian oil refineries according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow.

    Here they are lying already without blinking an eye ... how can it be ... I understand if the Anglo-Saxons are lying or there are Poles with Balts ... but then their brothers hang noodles on their ears with honest eyes.
    1. cniza 9 February 2020 16: 10 New
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      He wants to be independent in the eyes of his citizens.
    2. Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2020 16: 18 New
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      How not to recall the oldest?
  • Viktor Sergeev 9 February 2020 15: 57 New
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    If they told you in the face, then they drove you around the table, say that you hit the face with your face and then ruined the table. Putin explained to Lukashenko who he is and what Belarus is in an hour: a weak country that depends on the Russian market.
    1. Same lech 9 February 2020 16: 05 New
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      In an hour, Putin explained to Lukashenko who he is and what Belarus is:

      Previously, this had to be done ... played a friendship, but now it’s time to understand friendship as friendship and a tobacco apart.
      1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 24 New
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        I agree. .... everyone must choose their own path, why do you need Belarus ???
        1. Alexey RA 10 February 2020 14: 44 New
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          Quote: Stepan80
          I agree. .... everyone must choose their own path, why do you need Belarus ???

          Us? Is it really Putin annually goes to Lukashenko to ask for a discount on potatoes "brotherly"?
          1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 18: 00 New
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            Does it really go to ask to integrate and exchange the throne for an errand boy? Baron for the murder of the Opps, but no one else accepts you. .... now change it now to Kanapatskaya and forget the way to the Kremlin ...... the western vector will be
            1. Alexey RA 12 February 2020 15: 51 New
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              Does it really go to ask to integrate and exchange the throne for an errand boy?

              Worse - asks to integrate into the economy of the Russian Federation at import prices for Belarus and subsidies, but at the same time leave it as a sovereign state at export prices. Well, preserve the throne.
  • GABALIS 9 February 2020 15: 58 New
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    Papecoli led the mustache with independence and therefore is silent.
    "oil prices according to world prices, what did Lukashenko get from Moscow," what kind of nonsense?
    1. Zeev Zeev 9 February 2020 16: 06 New
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      Bullshit is an attempt to sell oil in Belarus at an inflated price, and to Europe at an ordinary price.
      1. Same lech 9 February 2020 16: 15 New
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        Bullshit is an attempt to sell oil in Belarus at an overpriced price

        They sold oil to Belarus just at a reduced price ... no need to dissemble ... and there they already resold it at the market ... in general, business in Belarus is nothing personal.
      2. yfast 9 February 2020 17: 41 New
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        Who would buy it in Belarus at an inflated price? You there from Israel, of course, know better, but Belarusians are not sadomaso.
        1. Zeev Zeev 9 February 2020 18: 01 New
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          Nobody was going to buy, therefore Lukashenko did not sign an oil supply agreement
          1. Astoria 9 February 2020 21: 14 New
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            What does it mean I didn’t sign - the balance of 24 million tons was agreed in advance, and the fact that they didn’t sign the delivery requests a month in advance, is Lukashenko’s problems, as a result, direct losses on the supply of Norwegian oil + 2 months refineries worked at a minimum load.
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            Nobody was going to buy, therefore Lukashenko did not sign an oil supply agreement

            how did he live all this time without oil ??? what and why did he need it now ?? lol
          3. Stepan80 10 February 2020 18: 02 New
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            Yeah ..... I’ve bought it for 25 years, but not now? Why buy at an inflated, navy that le no longer ???
      3. Dimonk 9 February 2020 18: 08 New
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        Well, and even to China, selling electricity is cheaper than Russian, but this is normal !!!
        1. Stepan80 10 February 2020 18: 04 New
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          This is called competition! Sell ​​our milk or sugar more expensive than Russian or maz more expensive Mercedes! ???
          Sell ​​as the market dictates!
      4. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 25 New
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        83% is less than 100% !!! Did you go to school at all ???
  • gx200gx 9 February 2020 16: 01 New
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    The Old Man did not succeed in fidgeting on two chairs with chairs at once and he decided to declare this his victory! For that fought for it and ran.
  • Alexga 9 February 2020 16: 01 New
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    No, everything is clear here. Lukashenko simply wanted to show citizens that GDP is not scary at all, but a very kind uncle who prevented the President of Belarus from wasting taxpayer money. Why overpay. wassat
  • Zeev Zeev 9 February 2020 16: 05 New
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    Well, that’s all right, because of the tax maneuvers, the price of oil for Belarus was higher than world prices.
    1. Same lech 9 February 2020 16: 20 New
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      because of the tax maneuvers, the price of oil for Belarus was higher than world prices.

      Sly again ... smile not higher than market prices even lower.
      1. Zeev Zeev 9 February 2020 17: 01 New
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        Below was two years ago
      2. Zeev Zeev 9 February 2020 17: 01 New
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        Below was two years ago
    2. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 14 New
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      Well, that’s all right, because of the tax maneuvers, the price of oil for Belarus was higher than world prices.

      and you are a noble dreamer !! lol good it could rise to the world only after the final completion of the tax maneuver !!!
    3. Alexey RA 10 February 2020 14: 46 New
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      Well, that’s all right, because of the tax maneuvers, the price of oil for Belarus was higher than world prices.

      What do you think the price is? Our oil on the terms "at the border of the Republic of Belarus", and the world price on the terms "at the supplier’s warehouse"? wink
      Outside the sea, a heifer is a half-pawn, and a ruble is transported. ©
  • cniza 9 February 2020 16: 08 New
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    Earlier it was reported that Putin appointed Dmitry Kozak to be responsible for working with Belarus on oil. It will be he who will oversee further negotiations between the parties to determine the Russian companies that will enter the Belarusian market.


    Who worked and will continue, why all this pathos ...
  • rocket757 9 February 2020 16: 09 New
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    And who knows what they agreed on.
    AHL must save face, that's for sure.
    1. Sadam 9 February 2020 19: 21 New
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      Yes, they play quiet. who will voice some numbers there. one in the empire plays the other in nationalism. they lifted a hype with Norwegian American oil - and finally, they shook hands. no matter what they are called Smolensk or world. barrel gets cheaper with this virus. Luke’s election is coming .... I perceive it as the next Kryndilyabr from But father
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        Quote: Sadam
        Yes, they play quiet. who will voice some numbers there.

        This is considered normal.
        Quote: Sadam
        one in the empire plays the other in nationalism

        In general, we see this and even got used to it.
        Everything is expected .... "cute" scolding, just amuse.
  • Nikolay87 9 February 2020 16: 10 New
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    Why Lukashenko is cunning

    Russia, in principle, is ready to meet the requirements of Belarus - negotiations on the form of compensation to the Belarusian side for the consequences of the Russian tax maneuver in the oil industry have been going on since the fall of 2018. If you do not go into details, the essence of the maneuver is as follows. Until 2024, Russia plans nullify 30 percent export duty on oil, while increasing the tax on mineral extraction (MET), which is levied “at the well”, that is, for each ton of oil produced. As a result, the cost of raw materials for Russian refineries will increase significantly - in fact, it will approach the world level.

    For Belarus, the implementation of the tax maneuver will also mean a sharp rise in oil prices. The fact is that historically Belarus was virtually exempted from Russian export duty - Oil for refining at Belarusian refineries was purchased without paying duties to the Russian budget. In addition, oil products that were produced from this oil and exported mainly to the European Union were not taxed. A considerable part of Russian oil received by Belarus (6 million tons out of 24 million) was sent for re-export with the so-called customs clearance - crediting the export duty to the budget of Belarus.

    In the Russian leadership, all this is considered a hidden subsidization of a partner. As Russian Minister of Finance Anton Siluanov reported in October 2018, the total amount of such a subsidy is $ 2 billion a year, but by 2024, when the tax maneuver is completed, it will practically be reset. For his part, Alexander Lukashenko estimated the losses of Belarus from the tax maneuver at 10,5–11 billion dollars in 2019–2024. For Belarus, this is a very serious amount, the loss of which threatens the financial security of the country. That is why Belarus needs Russian oil “on equal terms”.

    But when Alexander Lukashenko speaks of “equal conditions”, he is disingenuous. The President of Belarus is simply silent about the fact that the tax maneuver was also a severe test for Russian oil industry workers, as Vagit Alekperov recently recalled. “We work on commercial terms. The tax maneuver is not an initiative of the oil companies of the Russian Federation: we are the same victims as the Belarusians. Therefore, we are not going to compensate for the losses incurred by the Belarusian side, ”the head of LUKOIL Vagit Alekperov said the other day.
    Independent Russian oil refineries, which do not have their own raw material base, were particularly disadvantaged. Rising oil prices made production on many of them unprofitable. And so much so that among the independent Russian oil refineries several bankruptcies occurred, the most notorious of which was the bankruptcy of the Antipinsky oil refinery in the Tyumen region. In fact, the Belarusian oil refinery found itself in the same position as the independent Russian oil refineries, since Belarus does not have its own oil for it.
  • Cowbra 9 February 2020 16: 17 New
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    Belarus does not need any special exclusive conditions. We want to buy oil at world prices and no worse

    Tell me. is he advertising? So look here, that was:
    The price of Urals oil is $ 63,8 per barrel. BEFORE they had a discount - 75 bucks per ton, in the end a barrel - 53,7. OURS said guys. let's change the conditions - a discount of 75 bucks minus 5 bucks to the supplier, per ton. Total price for Belarus - 54,36 bucks per barrel (barrel).
    Now does he want world prices? Well, there will be 63,8 dollars per barrel. Instead of the ones proposed by Russia 54,36.
    Once again - is he doing it? wassat
    1. hydrox 9 February 2020 17: 21 New
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      I see it differently: before, the oil company selling oil paid the export duty for oil, while the severance tax was paid by the people.
      Now the export duty is reduced, tending to zero (accordingly, the oil industry’s profit is increasing), while the severance tax will increase, which will be laid down in the price of fuel, and which we will pay in full.
      Long live the oilmen’s profits! crying
      1. Cowbra 9 February 2020 17: 24 New
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        Now poke your finger, what does Belarus have to do with it ...
        And yet - you forgot to mention pensions and palm oil ...
        1. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 18: 16 New
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          Now poke your finger, what does Belarus have to do with it ...

          Despite the fact that this runs counter to the foundation of the EAEU, which initially has the goal of increasing the overall well-being of the participating countries.
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          Understand yourselves (oh!): I didn’t say a word about it wassat
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          Yes, by the way, what does Belarus have to do with it - he poked a finger, but didn’t get into the eye - and it’s a pity: this could help the brains that sew a rag tail to a living question. wassat
      2. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 22: 39 New
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        I see it differently ::

        this could end !! laughing
        1. hydrox 10 February 2020 08: 36 New
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          Voices from famous places are not heard, because they do not carry the Old, and the sounds are ... ordinary, familiar for this type of comment! wassat
  • Mountain shooter 9 February 2020 16: 19 New
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    "And the grapes are green ..." said the fox and grimaced ...
  • DMB 75 9 February 2020 16: 27 New
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    Belarus will buy Russian oil at world prices; Moscow will not provide any exclusive conditions to Minsk. This was stated by First Deputy Prime Minister of Belarus Dmitry Krutoy, writes BelTA.

    I hope that now all speculations on this subject will end at last.
    1. hydrox 9 February 2020 17: 24 New
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      Luka was most satisfied with the gradual reduction of the export duty to ZERO: this is his ECONOMY at our world prices!
  • Vladimir Mashkov 9 February 2020 16: 33 New
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    VERY reminiscent of that joke, when the old rooster chased, chased, chased all the hens around the yard, didn’t catch a single one, stood in the middle of the yard in a picture pose and said: “Yes, I didn’t really want to!”
  • Mentat 9 February 2020 16: 40 New
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    Krutoy stressed that Belarus does not need any exclusive conditions, Minsk insisted on buying Russian oil at world prices.

    Oh really? But what about the video where Lukashenko yells that he was “bent on cancer” and given - just for nothing! - a 17% discount on world oil prices? What impudence on the part of Russia, only 17% !! But it is necessary at the level of the Smolensk region!

    Eat now, don’t hang on. He also pissed off the discount that he had, with his speeches, Norwegian oil and "not our war».

    After all, it was essentially a grub in the face of both the Russian and Belarusian people. If all his clowning was tolerated in a big way, with clenched teeth, this phrase became the last straw.
    After it, I do not perceive this character as an empty balabol. Yes, and I think that no one in Russia and at the leadership level needs to tolerate such insults. What is clearly visible from the results of the entire golem shocking of this figure.
  • rudolff 9 February 2020 16: 44 New
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    So the prize for the tax maneuver was canceled? Well then, indeed, Lukashenko got his way.
    1. rudolff 9 February 2020 17: 49 New
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      For minusers especially advanced in terms of intelligence, I’ll explain. Lukashenko voiced his demands before the trip to Sochi and more than once. He wants to buy Russian oil at world prices, but without paying duties and premiums in connection with the tax maneuver. The world price is not necessarily the price of a London or other exchange. He has his own dealings with oil suppliers. Not to mention friends like Gutsiriev. Luke will never be cheap!
      1. Petrol cutter 9 February 2020 19: 20 New
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        Far from the oil trade, to be honest. But, when the conversation begins for bonuses, payment of duties, accrual of bonuses for the overpayment of bonuses, payment of bonuses for calculating interest on tax maneuvers, then maneuvers for deviating from the maneuver, then maneuvers for avoiding previous maneuvers ...
        Visits fierce longing. And the understanding that we will never live well.
        Cons usually do not put anyone ever ....
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          Maybe you're right...
      2. Astoria 9 February 2020 22: 56 New
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        Rudolph, as it were softer:
        1) What is the duty, that MET is already included in the world price. No one on the exchange is interested in your internal pricing.
        2) As for the bonus. The award aligns logistics for refineries. Take conditional Lukoil, for example, the refinery in Perm and the Belneftekhim refinery in Mozyr. Delivering oil to the Republic of Belarus, and from there oil products to the conditional market in Poland, is cheaper than delivering oil products to the conditional market in Poland at Lukoil. The prize equalizes the export opportunities of both companies, and Lukoil takes it, otherwise Lukoil must sponsor a competitor, which he naturally will not do.
        That's the whole question.
        1. kapitan92 9 February 2020 23: 08 New
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          As for the bonus. The award aligns logistics for refineries.

          Here there is a substitution of concepts since it is ideologically beneficial for Belarus to present a certain amount as bonuses to the top management of oil companies, so that the Russian population also perceives this amount negatively
          In reality, this is not about a premium, but about the benefit of oil companies that remains after the sale of oil.
          According to the law of the Russian Federation, all commercial enterprises must be profitable, and in the oil sector the cost of the product for the buyer is also calculated taking into account the cost of production of the product, its transportation and some kind of premium forming profit. This allowance is about $ 6-10 per ton (this is less than $ 1 per barrel). And this money remains in the budget of the company.

          Oil companies do not sell at a loss and will not sell oil at cost. Therefore, it is incorrect to say that when selling oil to Belarus, enterprises are laying a certain “premium”, and there is no such “premium” in transactions with Europe .. hi
      3. kapitan92 9 February 2020 23: 18 New
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        Lukashenko voiced his demands before the trip to Sochi and more than once. He wants to buy Russian oil at world prices, but without paying duties and premiums in connection with the tax maneuver.

        The meaning of the contradictions lies in the fact that in 2019 there has been a “tax maneuver” in Russia - a reform of the taxation system for the oil industry, according to which the annual export duty on oil will be reduced by 5%, and the mineral extraction tax (MET) will increase.
        The decision on such a reform lobbied for the economic bloc of the Russian government during the period of low oil prices in 2015-2016. After the end of the “tax maneuver” in 2024, the export duty will be zero, and the entire fiscal burden will go “to the well” in the form of mineral extraction tax. That is, 100% of the extracted oil will be taxed.
        And in 2024, when the “maneuver” is over, oil immediately after the payment of mineral extraction tax will have a world price level. It is logical that more expensive oil products will be obtained from more expensive oil.
        But in order for fuel to not rise in price on the Russian market, a “damping allowance” mechanism was developed in Russia. It involves the payment of subsidies to oil companies from the budget of the Russian Federation, which will help curb rising fuel prices.

        Thus, the essence of the conflict with Belarus is that due to the “tax maneuver” in 2024, Russian oil prices for Belarusian refineries will be equal to world prices.
        But Russia does not want to pay the “damping allowance” from its budget to oil refineries of another state.

        In response to Minsk’s demands to extend the “damping allowance” to Belarusian refineries, Moscow outlined the conditions under which this could be done.

        So, the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev in December 2018 stated that Compensation for the “tax maneuver” is possible only in conditions of deeper economic integration, including a unified tax system and the implementation of other provisions of the treaty on the Union State.
        The tax maneuver of the Russian Federation does not violate international and bilateral treaties, because no law says that Russia should coordinate reform in the field of taxation with other states of the EAEU or the Union State.

        Changing the Tax Code is a sovereign affair of the Russian Federation, and there are no international treaties that challenge this.
        In 2019, Belarusian refineries bought Russian Urals oil at a price of about 13-15 dollars lower than the same oil sold on the markets of third countries.
        From January 1, 2020, the “tax maneuver” took the next step - the export duty decreased by 5% and the severance tax increased.

        This leads to the fact that the difference between Russian oil prices for Belarus and prices for third countries will decrease from $ 15 per barrel to $ 10-13 a barrel.
        Something like that! hi
        1. rudolff 9 February 2020 23: 36 New
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          Well, you really painted everything in detail. But that's right, the situation looks exactly like that.
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            Quote: rudolff
            Well, you really painted everything in detail. But that's right, the situation looks exactly like that.

            hi drinks
            Yes, everything is simple and clear. Lukashenko "stirs up water" at home.
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              Yes, everything is simple and clear.

              Thank. Really accessible explained.
  • Mentat 9 February 2020 16: 46 New
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    Very soon in Russia they will recall how, as a result of the Sochi talks, we lost Belarus.

    No need to turn upside down. Lukashenko has lost the support of Russia.
  • k174oun7 9 February 2020 16: 49 New
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    Our native mass media write interestingly - Minsk appears to have insisted on buying oil at world prices. What then did not Minsk insist on, but Moscow? On sale for some non-global? This is how to understand - the brotherly Moscow comrades, by their kindness, do not offer oil at world prices, but Belarusians, in the person of the stupid "father" who is accused of wanting to profit at the expense of others, wants to buy at world prices? What is the homespun truth? It turns out that prices are not world, domestic, fraternal, at least not better than world prices. So why then negotiations at the presidential level? On the contrary, in Moscow they should instantly agree to the world’s and joyfully rub their hands, counting the profits. At the same time, the values ​​of these same prices do not come across. Those. Minsk bought at a domestic price for so much, and now, haha, not realizing its benefit, it will be for so much. It’s wonderful all this, they don’t agree on something.
    1. Petrol cutter 9 February 2020 17: 05 New
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      Moscow - wanted at humane prices, but did not rise.
      Father agrees only to Martian.
    2. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 17: 17 New
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      Quote: k174un7
      . In this case, the values ​​of these same prices do not come across.

      As Yushkov explains, there is a world oil price of $ 477,6 per ton (from December 15 to January 14). The export duty is deducted from it, which in the framework of the tax maneuver in Russia is 78,5 dollars per ton (from February 1), and the price for raw materials for Belarus offered by the Russian oil industry is 399,1 dollars per ton. But if there weren’t a tax maneuver, then the export duty would be about 82,5 dollars per ton. And Minsk is starting to bicker that it wants a discount not of 78,5, but of these 82,5 dollars per ton.

      https://vz.ru/economy/2020/2/6/1022385.html
      1. Anatole Klim 9 February 2020 18: 04 New
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        And here Minsk begins to bicker

        I followed your link and read an interesting fact https://vz.ru/economy/2020/2/6/1022385.html:
        “Another beneficiary of the cheapness of Russian oil is an intermediary company in Europe. Belarus sells oil products to it lower than the market price, and it resells gas at the market price to the UK and the Netherlands. This intermediary, which can be affiliated with a certain Belarusian businessman, forms a huge margin. At the same time, Belarusians sell petroleum products to Ukraine at a market price without any intermediaries directly to consumers. "
        It even became interesting to me who this Belarusian businessman is who has a huge margin on the resale of oil products. Given that everything is under Lukashenko’s control, I’m even afraid to guess who it is. request
        1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 20: 46 New
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          Quote: Anatole Klim
          Quote: Nikolai Grek
          And here Minsk begins to bicker

          I followed your link and read an interesting fact https://vz.ru/economy/2020/2/6/1022385.html:
          “Another beneficiary of the cheapness of Russian oil is an intermediary company in Europe. Belarus sells oil products to it lower than the market price, and it resells gas at the market price to the UK and the Netherlands. This intermediary, which can be affiliated with a certain Belarusian businessman, forms a huge margin. At the same time, Belarusians sell petroleum products to Ukraine at a market price without any intermediaries directly to consumers. "
          It even became interesting to me who this Belarusian businessman is who has a huge margin on the resale of oil products. Given that everything is under Lukashenko’s control, I’m even afraid to guess who it is. request

          well ... this is no longer specified in the article !! request wassat
  • iouris 9 February 2020 16: 50 New
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    What is the "world price" I can still imagine, and what is the "world price of Russian oil" I can no longer. Will the same Russian goods be purchased immediately at different prices or will the “world backstage” dictate the prices of “Russian oil”?
  • Petrol cutter 9 February 2020 17: 02 New
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    And before she took on Martian tariffs or what?! ..
  • dirk182 9 February 2020 17: 06 New
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    What can be said in the light of recent events, namely, the removal from office of the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Lieutenant General Shunevich, who fought both with Babich and his entourage (pro-Westerners in Belarus). Lukashenko began to clean up all pro-Russian elements. In general, I went according to the Ukrainian scenario. Again we step on the same rake. Praise to our Foreign Ministry. Although, the actions of our ministry have long been causing confusion and bewilderment among all adults with the minds of people. Especially the statements of the incomparable Masha Zakharova.
  • Lamata 9 February 2020 17: 14 New
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    But what about cookies from pompeo?
  • Baloo 9 February 2020 17: 16 New
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    winking with amerzah sadly ends. Pompeo traveled to Kazakhstan, what is now in the south of Kazakhstan, a bloody sabantuy, a prologue?
    1. Lamata 9 February 2020 17: 52 New
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      In the south of the Republic of Kazakhstan, the situation has long been difficult and Plpepo has nothing to do with it.
  • Amateur 9 February 2020 17: 23 New
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    the parties agreed to set oil prices for Belarusian oil refineries according to world prices, what from Moscow and sought Lukashenko.

    But did Moscow sell oil to Minsk above world prices?
    Somewhere, someone's balls began to cling to the rollers. fool
  • Old Horseradish 9 February 2020 17: 37 New
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    Well, well, the united nation is divided into Slavs, and now it is also poisoned with itself. With what I congratulate you. When the war begins grandmas on which you pray can you know where to put it? The history of us fools does not teach anything. Bros sold for green, however, as always.
    1. Genak 9 February 2020 18: 46 New
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      Everything goes according to plan, then federations with natural resources would also like to get rid of parasites, and industry would not be needed in that volume (divide and conquer).
    2. Nikolay87 9 February 2020 19: 27 New
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      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Well, well, the united nation is divided into Slavs, and now it is also poisoned with itself. With what I congratulate you. When the war begins grandmas on which you pray can you know where to put it? The history of us fools does not teach anything. Bros sold for green, however, as always.

      Make friends for money?
    3. Nikolay87 9 February 2020 21: 48 New
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      Well, well, the united nation is divided into Slavs, and now it is also poisoned with itself. With what I congratulate you. When the war begins grandmas on which you pray can you know where to put it? The history of us fools does not teach anything. Bros sold for green, however, as always.

      Maybe a brother would first recognize Crimea as Russian, no ?! hi We were brothers in the USSR .... and now capitalism decides who is your friend, who is the enemy, and who has entered this way, just to see.
      PySy have nothing against Belarusians
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      united Slavic people

      Not Slavic, but Russian. Slavic people never existed.
  • Lord of the Sith 9 February 2020 18: 16 New
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    at the talks between the presidents of the two countries, the parties agreed to establish a Belarusian oil refinery oil prices according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow


    Ahahah, I can’t laugh, a gorgeous statement, because the old man wanted domestic prices, just a couple of days ago, when Russia just announced that Belarus’s oil would supply oil according to world prices and there would be no discount)))
    And now pereobulsya in a jump, they say got his Luka))
    1. Dimonk 9 February 2020 18: 30 New
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      Well yes. There is someone to take an example. When we all started to broadcast on all TV channels that we did everything right by paying Ukraine $ 2,5 billion by a decision of some kind of “foreign” court, before that they all shouted that we wouldn’t pay a cent !!!
  • Krasnoyarsk 9 February 2020 18: 38 New
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    = Krutoy emphasized that Belarus does not need any exclusive conditions, Minsk insisted on buying Russian oil at world prices. =
    From these words, it turns out that Russia really bent prices above world prices for Belarus?
    It seems to me that this is just lasciviousness.
    1. Krasnoyarsk 9 February 2020 18: 43 New
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      From these words, it turns out that Russia really bent prices above world prices for Belarus?

      The fact is that we allegedly learned the requirements of Belarusians for domestic prices from the media, but the requirements of Belarusians for world prices from the minister. Who to believe? I believe in the minister more.
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    4. Nikolay87 9 February 2020 19: 26 New
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      = Krutoy emphasized that Belarus does not need any exclusive conditions, Minsk insisted on buying Russian oil at world prices. =
      From these words, it turns out that Russia really bent prices above world prices for Belarus?
      It seems to me that this is just lasciviousness.

      And before the tax maneuver, he received oil so that we had no profit from it, and the Republic of Belarus had 2 billion a year. Norm?
      1. Krasnoyarsk 9 February 2020 19: 37 New
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        And before the tax maneuver, he received oil so that we had no profit from it, and the Republic of Belarus had 2 billion a year. Norm?

        I don’t know anything about the tax maneuver, what it is and with what this maneuver is eaten. By the way, did you understand this well? Then enlighten.
        I'm talking about the words of the media - Belarus requires domestic prices, and about the words
        Minister - Belarus requires world prices.
        I tend to trust the minister more.
        1. Nikolai Grek 9 February 2020 22: 48 New
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          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Nikolay87

          And before the tax maneuver, he received oil so that we had no profit from it, and the Republic of Belarus had 2 billion a year. Norm?

          I don’t know anything about the tax maneuver, what it is and with what this maneuver is eaten. By the way, did you understand this well? Then enlighten.
          I'm talking about the words of the media - Belarus requires domestic prices, and about the words
          Minister - Belarus requires world prices.
          I tend to trust the minister more.

          are you the son of this minister or something ??? what
          1. Krasnoyarsk 10 February 2020 10: 14 New
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            are you the son of this minister or something ???

            No, of course. Imagine this situation - there are two people; You know one thing and know that he is lying like he breathes. You do not know another at all. And they say the opposite data. Who will you tend to trust? So my logic is simple. I admit that there is something that can refute this logic, but I do not know it. But my minusers, God help them, they know, but the parasites do not share information, they only put the minuses. But I suppose, and they know no more than mine, but they put the cons according to the principle - I have not read it, but I condemn it angrily.
            1. Nikolai Grek 10 February 2020 18: 08 New
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              No, of course. Imagine this situation - there are two people; You know one thing and know that he is lying like he breathes. You do not know another at all. And they say the opposite data. Who will you tend to trust?

              I certainly will not blindly believe the Minister of another country, to which you have suspicious gullibility !!! request
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                Quote: Nikolai Grek

                I certainly will not blindly believe the Minister of another country, to which you have suspicious gullibility !!!

                Based on this, we can safely conclude that you believe our media. With which I congratulate you.
                1. Nikolai Grek 10 February 2020 21: 56 New
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                  I congratulate you.

                  Thank you!! soldier
                  and I congratulate you - you sincerely believe not in our media ... just not a special reason for pride !! wassat wink
                  1. Krasnoyarsk 10 February 2020 23: 47 New
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                    you sincerely believe not in our media.

                    Who told you such nonsense? Spit in his face. Even if there is a mirror in front of you.
                    1. Nikolai Grek 11 February 2020 00: 33 New
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                      Who told you such nonsense

                      you demonstrate it with your comments !! request wassat
                      1. Krasnoyarsk 11 February 2020 10: 58 New
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                        - you sincerely believe not in our media ..

                        Quote: Nikolai Grek
                        you demonstrate it with your comments !!

                        Well, stay with your errors. Wish you success. fool
      2. Mordvin 3 9 February 2020 19: 37 New
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        And before the tax maneuver, he received oil so that we had no profit from it

        Yeah, dad went all the profit. laughing
      3. Krasnoyarsk 10 February 2020 10: 21 New
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        And before the tax maneuver, he received oil so that we had no profit from it

        We, indeed, "had no profit from her." Because it belongs to a mining company, which, as you know, is private. And I do not believe that these "business sharks" do not have income from the oil trade with Belarus. I AM I guessthat it was the oil barons who lobbied for this very “tax maneuver” in order to obtain even greater profit. And we are here - on the side of the pripe, i.e. do not fit in from the word at all.
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      It seems to me that this is just lasciviousness.

      yeah ... to say this despite the fact that Moscow did not require anything like that - this is lousy !!! wink
  • Lelek 9 February 2020 18: 47 New
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    Belarus does not need any special exclusive conditions. We want to buy oil at world prices and no worse

    But what about Grygorych’s mean male tear and a hint of energy prices in Smolensk? Dmitry Krutoy lived up to his last name - a really cool fake gun.
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      With integration, he will have to wait until Putin leaves or gives power to the baron for less, he does not agree
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      Dmitry Krutoy lived up to his last name - a really cool fake gun.

      What is your evidence?
  • Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 08 New
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    Hopefully now the Russian reproaches for the support of subsidies and alliance will stop?
  • borys 9 February 2020 20: 08 New
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    Cool men are sitting in the Kremlin. They know how to put in place Lukashenko.
    We would also have learned to put in place the strangers - Trump, Erdogan, Abe,
    Nenanyahu. Or at least the "Baltic tigers."
    1. Alexander I 10 February 2020 15: 24 New
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      The Baltic states are already bent down and they understand this, they need money, but so far only the West gives them, and then for the bark towards Russia, they have no other choice
  • Vasyan1971 9 February 2020 20: 13 New
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    oil prices according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow.

    Do not understand their bin. Why then daddie bent?
    1. Nikolay87 9 February 2020 21: 36 New
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      oil prices according to world prices, which Lukashenko sought from Moscow.

      Do not understand their bin. Why then daddie bent?

      They bent all. And Russian refineries and refineries in Belarus. So it turned out that it became easier for Belarus to buy world-wide than new Russian ones. The freebie was taken away, and Lukashenko was saddened.
      1. Vasyan1971 10 February 2020 01: 17 New
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        The freebie was taken away, and Lukashenko was saddened.

        Why be sad, since this is exactly what he was striving for?
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    It's unclear. Really from a discount on oil in 17% refused? This is very strange, to say the least. Something casts doubt on me ...
  • Victor Orthodox 10 February 2020 04: 17 New
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    It is clear in this whole story only one thing that happened, how they agreed on this dark matter.
    The earth is rumored that Old Man rode to Kazakhstan after Russia and agreed on oil supplies there. So, Russia did not allow Kazakhstan to use the pipe for deliveries. Both countries in response were very offended and amicably, with joyful faces, rode in front of Pompeo during his trip.
    That's interesting, where is the truth. Who's guilty. Lukashenko with an outstretched hand, or Russia profiting from the allies, with exorbitant appetites of the oil industry. Well, if they could agree with Kazakhstan, then what?
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    It’s true he remembered he was above the world’s, but it dawned that there were competitors wink
  • Maestro Alexander 10 February 2020 06: 23 New
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    No compromise found yet. Negotiations are ongoing.
    Also, do not forget that the LAS is conducting parallel negotiations on oil supplies from Kazakhstan.
  • Sova 10 February 2020 08: 48 New
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    So I write that the old man doesn’t need it, there will be a crisis, he will buy 30 Baku dollars, and not 60 as inside Russia! Though zamususytes, just can not understand.

    And where is the world market selling at "30 Baku to buy"
  • Alexander I 10 February 2020 14: 35 New
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    Yes, it was clear that everything would come to world prices. The price of oil is falling, oil workers have been taxed heavily, there is only one way out: to remove freeloaders or lower taxes.
  • Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2020 15: 14 New
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    Lukashenko dumped a pile of papers in Sochi with printouts of critical publications addressed to Belarus and himself beloved in the Russian media.
    For explanations, Dmitry Peskov was called. He explained in detail how journalists work in Russia, and recalled that freedom of speech is guaranteed by the Constitution laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin 10 February 2020 15: 32 New
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    It seems to me that this woodpecker both settled down on the defensive in the basement of the village council in the 91st, and sits there without any danger, only sometimes in the mug of the mug he sticks out a shob to howl. laughing
  • dirk182 10 February 2020 18: 33 New
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    In general, I have some kind of bad feeling ... like we’re deliberately quarreling with Belarus. As well as with Ukraine. Already somehow synchronously affect all fraternal peoples. What is the West, what is ours. Like an agreement. And they are preparing isolation for us. After all, it is beneficial for the ruling elite. In the meantime, we are wiping away all the snot, getting ready for some kind of war. Nevertheless, the money goes nowhere. Neither thousands of Armats, nor a coherent shipbuilding program. But with taxes and digitalization the full order. Moscow was full of cameras. Chinese specials rummage around here, implement a total control system. Anyway, look around .... a third world country. Fear of war and they hold us in the rein. My soul resists this system! Something bad is turning inside and you understand that everything that is happening around is wrong. Like a nightmare.