Indonesia begins assembling Harimau's first production batch of medium tanks

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Indonesia begins assembling Harimau's first production batch of medium tanks

The latest Turkish-Indonesian medium tank Harimau reached the stage of mass production, Turkey issued a permit for the production of the first 18 serial tanks for the indonesian army. This was reported by armyrecognition.com.

The Ministry of Defense of Indonesia ordered the first batch of the latest medium tanks back in April last year, all the while negotiating a contract with the Turkish side took place. After obtaining the permission of Ankara, the Indonesian company PT Pindad begins to release the first production batch.



Harimau ("Tiger") is a joint development of the Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri and the Indonesian PT Pindad specifically for the Indonesian army.

The hull and chassis of the tank are completely created by Turkish FNSS, and the tank tower is a Belgian steel double CMI Defense Cockerill 3105 with a 105 mm rifled gun CMI Defense CT-CV 105HP equipped with a muzzle brake and a coaxial 7,62 mm machine gun. The gun is equipped with a drum-type automatic loader for 12 shots, another 30 shots are placed in the machine body. The gun is capable of firing standard NATO 105-mm tank ammunition. The contribution of the Indonesian side was to finance the project.

The weight of the tank 32-35 tons (not exactly disclosed), the crew of three people. The machine is able to overcome the ford with a depth of 1,2 m, a ditch with a width of 2 m and a wall with a height of 0,9 m.

Booking the hull and turret of the tank provides protection against the 14,5 mm armor-piercing bullet with the 200 m, but can be enhanced to protect against the 25-mm projectile projectile.

At the first stage, the Indonesian army intends to acquire the 44 tank Harimau. In total, it is planned to deliver to the troops up to 400 tanks.
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  1. +12
    9 February 2020 11: 59
    Harimau latest turkish-indonesian medium tank reaches serial production

    Rather, Turkish-Belgian ..
    The hull and chassis of the tank are completely created by Turkish FNSS, and the tank tower is a Belgian steel double CMI Defense Cockerill 3105 with a 105 mm rifled gun CMI Defense CT-CV 105HP and a coaxial 7,62 mm machine gun equipped with a muzzle brake.

    And the Indonesians just paid for the banquet. smile
    1. -2
      9 February 2020 13: 56
      For Indonesia ONLY. For myself, my parents, "Altai".
      Indonesia, too, you can understand, go down to the purchase of used equipment do not want. Modern tanks are not cheap.
      It turns out the "golden" mean. Moreover, it meets (this is for some dissatisfied) NATO standards.
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 14: 58
        It turns out the "golden" mean.

        What's the "middle"?
        With such a reservation .... While he will turn his 105-mm cannon and load, the barmaley will make a sieve out of him in their "carts". Indonesia is a Muslim country. The probability of the appearance of local barmaley is high.
      2. 0
        10 February 2020 20: 13
        and buy a T-62 or T-55 and upgrade? The difference in mass is small, only 4 tons, but the difference in booking is fatal
  2. +6
    9 February 2020 12: 07
    This is not a tank, this is a combined caterpillar hodgepodge with the functions of a tank. ..
    1. -16
      9 February 2020 12: 44
      The anger of an envious person, and not holding back to show everyone these qualities. This is a hodgepodge. laughing
      1. +19
        9 February 2020 12: 54
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        The anger of the envious, and not holding back to show everyone these qualities. Here is a hodgepodge

        A tank with armor holding bullets of a heavy machine gun? Yes, our PT-76 was about the same, just sailed ...
        And "Octopus", he swims, and the gun is much more powerful! What is there to envy.
        1. -10
          9 February 2020 13: 28
          Compare the tanks of the 60s with these new generations of tanks. Or do you think that the Indonesians are completely stupid, not understanding what they need? And what does the SPG have to do with it, having a large cannon and a cardboard body? Harimau (Kaplan) modern, comfortable, equipped with the latest control and fire systems. "What is there to envy." That comrade has "reasons," even without discussing equipment and weapons. Reading his comments for months, we have experience.
          1. +10
            9 February 2020 13: 31
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            Harimau (Kaplan) is modern, comfortable, equipped with the latest control and fire systems.

            Compared to the Turkish-Indonesian "Sprut" is quite a tank. With comparable armor and incomparable capabilities ... Although it is called an SPG.
          2. +8
            9 February 2020 15: 02
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            Compare 60s tanks with these new generations of tanks

            Excuse me, but with what to compare it? here I have for this "armored miracle" the same a lot of "bewilderment". Have armor that protects against 14,5mm, at best 25mm ???????? And this with a weight of 32-35 tons ... How else did they make it so "heavy"?
            Here is a tank of the mid-60s, T-64 ob. 432 Weight, up to 35 tons, but has a full anti-ballistic reservation and a 115-mm tank gun with a loading mechanism
          3. +2
            10 February 2020 05: 16
            Dear Jeyhun, do you at least explain your position .. with the new modern control systems and fire you are right .. what about the rest? the gun okay well, 105 mm in modern design and with shots still suits, the speaker's mobility should also be good .. BUT at the same time, where did 35 tons come from with such insignificant armor? in fact, we get an average tank almost comparable in weight to the old T54-55, but at the same time the same T55 holds not only 14.5 with regard to the entire hull but also holds armor-piercing shells 25-30 mm in the forehead .. the logic is simply not clear why such a machine is needed if Is it not light if it does not swim or is it planned to drop it? I just don’t understand, explain the advantages of this machine .. to drive partisans in light weapons? Then should there be good protection against RPGs do they have? if not, then this is a step 70 years ago ..
          4. +1
            10 February 2020 20: 15
            the difference is that this "tank" has no reservation .. with a mass of 32 tons, it is unarmored from the word at all
        2. 0
          9 February 2020 13: 31
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Yes, our PT-76 was about the same, just sailed ...

          Judging by the muzzle, they wanted to cut the floating one.
          1. +2
            9 February 2020 15: 04
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Judging by the muzzle, they wanted to cut the floating one.

            No, this is to increase the speed of movement in areas where there are a lot of puddles and mud. This shape of the nose saves from "dolphins", that is, from splashing and overwhelming mud observation devices for fur.
            1. -1
              9 February 2020 15: 21
              Quote: svp67
              No, this is to increase the speed of movement in areas where there are a lot of puddles and dirt.

              Clear. More speed - less pits, all the same, their driver is not visible at close range.
              1. +1
                9 February 2020 15: 24
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Clear. More speed - less pits, all the same, their driver is not visible at close range.

                Now this problem is solved by installing cameras
                1. 0
                  9 February 2020 15: 33
                  Quote: svp67
                  Now this problem is solved by installing cameras

                  Yes, for sure - there is something like this above the tracks.
        3. +1
          9 February 2020 15: 01
          What is there to envy.

          Well, if only the Indonesian cut. laughing
          Someone made good money on this misunderstanding. Yes
  3. -2
    9 February 2020 12: 08
    Why do they need tanks at all? Who is going to attack them ..
    Now it’s easier to impose sanctions and undermine the country from within ..
    1. +5
      9 February 2020 12: 26
      Quote: Smuta
      Who is going to attack them ..

      Democracy can suddenly disappear in a country. After that, the democrats who came in for noble reasons will begin to slaughter the local population. This is where the tanks come in handy.
      1. +1
        9 February 2020 12: 33
        As a "policeman", the tank can be said to have taken place. With the option "the ability to destroy accidentally captured light armored vehicles".
      2. -1
        9 February 2020 13: 40
        Quote: Pereira
        Quote: Smuta
        Who is going to attack them ..

        Democracy can suddenly disappear in a country. After that, the democrats who came in for noble reasons will begin to slaughter the local population. This is where the tanks come in handy.

        On the outskirts, something didn’t come in handy .. In Russia, only the Democrats shot the parliament under the general howl of the USA ..
    2. +5
      9 February 2020 12: 30
      They themselves are going to Malaysia, which holds a bunch of ancestral territories.
      These tanks are a means of reinforcing amphibious groups.

      Or do you think they just have the largest airborne forces in the region, and the largest mobilized deployable landing potential in the region?



      These tanks are replacing the old AMXam.


      And they were selected just for deployment in the amplification forces of the attacking waves.


      That is an amplification of the amphibian wave. Because it’s not very convenient to unload Leopards2 right away, but you need to support Pandurs, BMP-3, BMP-2, BTR-4.
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 12: 44
        About Malaysia, you seem to be right. recourse
        1. +2
          9 February 2020 12: 47
          Well, this does not mean that they are going on a liberation campaign there. It’s just the main sworn friend in the region. Malaysia is arming against Indonesia. Indonesia is arming against Malaysia. Whenever possible, they interlock.
      2. +2
        9 February 2020 12: 49
        Because it’s not very convenient to unload Leopards2 right away, but you need to support Pandurs, BMP-3, BMP-2, BTR-4


        But the BMP-3 is in no way inferior to weapons or armor. To put it mildly. It was enough to buy more than BMP-3. And it’s better and the logistics are easier, and the landing can be transported.
        1. +1
          9 February 2020 22: 24
          But the BMP-3 is in no way inferior to weapons or armor. To put it mildly. It was enough to buy more than BMP-3.

          BMP-3 is better than this Turkish-Belgian .. der'mo design in all respects. In general, for all. in all and fundamentally better. For that region, the car is almost ideal.
          And the Indonesians buy them - they recently signed a third contract for the next batch. A little truth. But this is only the Indonesian Navy in the mind and adequate. The Indonesian landowners - the consumers of this "tank" - are inadequate. I studied this army - a nightmare and a complete lack of understanding of what they need in real life.
          1. +1
            9 February 2020 22: 32
            I see something reminiscent of the Japanese army and navy from WWII request
  4. +4
    9 February 2020 12: 09
    Reservation of the hull and turret of the tank provides protection against an armor-piercing bullet of 14,5 mm from 200 m
    What kind of tank is this? This "BMP" without infantry, with the weight of a medium tank. ... In a word, "the devil has a bow on the side." In the war, the Germans had such, such as the T-4, just anti-tank guns were shot through.
    1. 0
      9 February 2020 12: 27
      Full bullshit - protection like an armored personnel carrier, and not the latest models, can not swim ...
  5. +2
    9 February 2020 12: 10
    [quote] [Reservation of the hull and turret of the tank provides protection against an armor-piercing bullet of 14,5 mm from 200 m, but can be strengthened to protect against a 25-mm cannon shell. / quote]
    It would be better if the holes in the hull were more covert, then the tank would become very invulnerable.
  6. -1
    9 February 2020 12: 11
    Harimau ("Tiger") How will it burn ???
    1. -1
      9 February 2020 12: 23
      As usual, with fireworks from the BC and the smell of a burnt crew.
  7. -1
    9 February 2020 12: 14
    Tanks in the Indonesian jungle? laughing ))
    1. +6
      9 February 2020 12: 28
      I believe the Indonesians know better. The Turks were able to offer them the right thing. Our not. It remains only to slander.
      1. -2
        9 February 2020 12: 30
        Hmm, I wonder who they are going to fight against with tanks, an archipelago of thousands of islands?
        With the Nazis? laughing
        1. +3
          9 February 2020 12: 32
          I already wrote above. The Philippines is also an archipelago, Ceylon is an island. Did it help them?
          1. 0
            9 February 2020 12: 34
            Here we don't need tanks, but helicopters. And why should a country like Indonesia be taught "democracy"? They are already up to their ears in it.
            1. +1
              9 February 2020 12: 36
              What if they find something very necessary for the USA there? This is how democracy in countries disappears.
              1. +1
                9 February 2020 12: 44
                They are so not so with the USA. The previous administration approved the sworn friends from Malaysia F-18. And in general, she was friends with Malaysia clearly against Indonesia. This administration is threatening terrible sanctions if the Su-35 arrives. From what the contract has suspended. Well, in fairness, the contract was suspended if you didn’t catch it because of the new EU legislation on a palm tree - a total of 50% of the product share:
                a) can not be sold quickly;
                b) palm prices are sagging due to overproduction and restrictions of one of the leading consumers, and in the future the situation will worsen, as the laws in other countries will also be tightened.

                Now they are looking for other products for a commodity share. Participants were also not found on Carnation with cardamom, because there is no way to pour so much into the market, and spices are expensive to store and big losses.
        2. +5
          9 February 2020 12: 38
          Malaysia (enemy No. 1). Timor.

          They have more tanks right now than many of the old European giants. Moreover, there are heavy Leo2 in a fashionable body kit.


          Well, a different trifle just adapted to the region, which will be replaced by the Tigers.



          Well, they hit Wheeled tanks too. Pandurov bought with the same Belgian tower.


          They made their Badak with 90mm Crokelite. They bought used earpieces from Koreans - they also screwed 90mm Croquelite.
  8. -1
    9 February 2020 13: 08
    Interestingly, tank gradations appear again, now the middle ones appeared, in Indonesia there is also a draped one. MBT no longer drives
  9. +3
    9 February 2020 13: 57
    Pereira (Michael), dear, have long been found. The country is in the top ten in explored reserves of coal (in the United States - 1 place in explored deposits), in the top five in gold reserves, their developed Grasberg deposit has not long been one of the three largest quarries (in the USA, three or four mines were in the top ten and a career in Nevada). There is gas and oil (but there aren’t as many as in the Middle East, or maybe just not all the islands have been drilled yet), Indonesia is part of OPEC. The country actively sells iron, tin, nickel, manganese, molybdenum, lead, zinc, copper, silver. Diamonds - and they are
    1. +1
      9 February 2020 14: 46
      That is why Japa rushed to the South, and not to the North and the Far East for resources!
  10. -2
    9 February 2020 14: 48
    Yeah, the T-34 is better much better armored with a comparable weight. But this snag is not a tank, but a misunderstanding)
  11. 0
    9 February 2020 21: 12
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    The anger of an envious person, and not holding back to show everyone these qualities. This is a hodgepodge. laughing

    There is nothing to envy. Bulletproof armor and a mass of 32 tons. Are they there that a herd of sheep and a crowd of concubines carry with them, or what? How to combine these two parameters? Tell me, specialist!
    1. -2
      9 February 2020 21: 51
      Spacious, comfortable, technologically advanced. For spaciousness and convenience, dimensions, and this weight adds. This is an adult tank for the jungle, for moist forest soil, and the design is designed for this, not light, but much easier than the older brothers. You should not compare them with old, equally weighing, not technologically advanced devices. But the T-34s already show an example, which was a very good tank for its time. But I'm sorry, the 21st century, even tankers want to die in comfortable conditions. This happens once But before the incident, you will have to sit for many years, manage this device.
      1. -2
        9 February 2020 22: 12
        General information
        Diesel engine
        Crew capacity 3 (including driver, gunner and commander)
        Transmission fully automatic 7 forward 1 reverse
         

        Movement Ability
        The maximum speed of the road is 70 km / h
        Autodrom 450 km
        Maximum slope 60%
        Maximum lateral slope 30%
        Vertical obstacle crossing 0,90 m
        Trench passage 2.00 m
        Rotate Turn Radius
        Working conditions -320С / + 550С
         

        Weapon systems
        CMI Cockerill® 3105 Primary Weapon
        Secondary weapon 7,62 mm Coaxial machine gun
         

        Equipment
        360 degree situational awareness
        Wireless Intercom System
        Navigation system
        External power supply
        Indoor and outdoor lighting system
        Battlefield Management System (MYS)
        Laser Warning System (LİS)
         

        Security systems
        Ballistic protection (hull + additional armor)
        Mine Protection (Mine Protection)
        KBRN Security System
        Air conditioning system
        Automatic fire extinguishing system
        Mist solutions
        1. -2
          9 February 2020 22: 15
          KAPLAN MT is expected to have accurate direct-fire capabilities, a wide range of ammunition, and superior tactical and strategic mobility.

          KAPLAN MT is located at the rear of the vehicle and provides a power-to-weight ratio of “20 BG / ton”. KAPLAN MT, which has increased mobility thanks to a 6-wheel shockproof suspension system based on two-pin pallets and torsion bars, adapts to both terrain and terrain, especially in mountainous conditions with high rough terrain and bridges with low bearing capacity. It is a vehicle that can successfully combine superior motion control features. The car runs at full power and smoothly, in a wide range of heights and humidity, from -18 ° C to + 55 ° C.
    2. -2
      9 February 2020 22: 30
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7lhmFKZhJw Здесь тесты и характеристики
  12. 0
    9 February 2020 21: 18
    Quote: Pereira
    I believe the Indonesians know better. The Turks were able to offer them the right thing. Our not. It remains only to slander.

    We rejoice. There is gunpowder in the flasks from the island natives. Let everyone buy trash in a row. And the Turks unlearn how to do real things (do not study in the future), since it will come down ....
  13. -1
    9 February 2020 21: 40
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Reading his comments for months, we have experience.

    Then- OH !!! (I hope you know this joke) From reading comments, experience is something. Hence the lousiness of your comments.
  14. 0
    9 February 2020 22: 45
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    Spacious, comfortable, technologically advanced. For spaciousness and convenience, dimensions, and this weight adds. This is an adult tank for the jungle, for moist forest soil, and the design is designed for this, not light, but much easier than the older brothers. You should not compare them with old, equally weighing, not technologically advanced devices. But the T-34s already show an example, which was a very good tank for its time. But I'm sorry, the 21st century, even tankers want to die in comfortable conditions. This happens once But before the incident, you will have to sit for many years, manage this device.

    Spacious, poorly armored and clearly visible car will help to die quickly.
  15. 0
    10 February 2020 02: 02
    come to us for a tank contest ...
    I do not believe that the T-80BVM (I could be wrong) will be weaker
  16. 0
    10 February 2020 02: 23
    I was mistaken, better T-72B3, Indonesia come to us

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