Some details of negotiations between Ankara and Moscow on Idlib appeared


In Ankara, negotiations were held between representatives of Russia and Turkey, at which the parties discussed the situation that has developed recently in the Syrian province of Idlib. Some details of the talks are reported by Turkish media.


As reported, the Russian delegation arrived in Ankara, headed by Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Vershinin, the Turkish delegation was headed by the deputy head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry Sedat Onal. Negotiations took about three hours, as agreed by the parties, is not officially reported. However, Turkish media reported a number of details of the consultations.

According to available information, Turkey insisted on maintaining the borders of the de-escalation zone in the province of Idlib and demanded that Russia put pressure on official Damascus to withdraw its forces from its gained positions in the province until the end of February and free the entire zone.

In addition, Ankara warned Moscow that it intends to decisively respond to any attacks by Syrian government forces on Turkish observation posts located in the Idlib de-escalation zone.

The requirements of the Russian side and whether Turkey is going to fulfill them are not reported.

Earlier, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced threats to Damascus due to the offensive in Idlib. He threatened a military strike against the Syrian government army if the offensive continued in Idlib province.
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  1. rotmistr60 9 February 2020 06: 45 New
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    to put pressure on official Damascus so that by the end of February it would withdraw its forces from its gained positions in the province and liberate the entire zone.
    And why didn’t they immediately suggest that Russia put pressure on Damascus with the goal of surrendering to the terrorists? A familiar picture both in Chechnya and in LDNR - as soon as bandits are pressed hard, their sponsors immediately begin to worry and propose negotiations. And in this case, they impose impossible conditions. The Syrian army paid with its blood for the occupied positions, and now Erdogan wants them to withdraw. Erdogan’s arrogance and excessive self-esteem will not lead to good. I hope (I'm sure) ours will not go to such conditions.
    1. Thrifty 9 February 2020 06: 52 New
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      Gennady hi -the desire to dominate the region and have free oil prevails over common sense that the same militants can simply scatter or hit the Turks, realizing that they were thrown for slaughter.
      1. Alekseev 9 February 2020 09: 27 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        the desire to dominate the region, and to have free oil prevails over common sense that the same militants can simply scatter or hit the Turks

        It seems that along with the desires of the Turks, there is an understanding that strikes against the Syrians and, probably, the Iranian forces in Idlib can cause attacks on Turkish targets on the territory of Turkey itself. actions of Kurdish militants will appear like flowers ... If there was no understanding, they could take the same Idlib troops as sowing. Cyprus. But they did not, for they are calculating the possible consequences.
        Такой военный конфликт вызовет кроме тысяч жертв турецких военных и гражданских лиц, экономическую катастрофу в туристическом бизнесе, свертывание экономического сотрудничества с РФ (а замахнулись довести товарооборот до 100 млрд.$), ну и наступление курдов при поддержке сирийцев восточнее Ефрата. Тем паче, авиацию применить вряд ли удастся по известным причинам.
        1. Yeraz 9 February 2020 17: 41 New
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          Quote: Alekseev
          can cause attacks on Turkish targets on the territory of Turkey itself. shares of Kurdish militants appear like flowers.

          wah wah, the great all-departing Kurds)))))) So many Turks pressed that the Turkish army was with its army and bases already in their territories in Syria and Iraq))
          Quote: Alekseev
          Well, the advance of the Kurds with the support of the Syrians east of the Euphrates.

          Nifigaaa the Syrians turn out to be able to fight, they have full-fledged armed forces, which not only brought the whole country under control, but also have achieved such power that they are ready to roll out one of the strongest armies in the world in the person of Turkey. I also look at Bagdasarov and Solovyov, this info wink
      2. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 50 New
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        Это про Турцию или РФ ?
      3. FORCE 38GB 9 February 2020 14: 59 New
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        An interesting and suddenly difficult option for Turkey can be drawn: laughing laughing Barmalei with weapons will go over to the side of the SAA without a fight, plus a lot of information about sponsorship and duplicity of the Sultan with them, then the cards will fall on a completely different line .. bully
    2. Mountain shooter 9 February 2020 09: 01 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      and offer negotiations. And in this case, they impose impossible conditions. The Syrian army paid with its blood for the occupied positions, and now Erdogan wants them to withdraw. Erdogan’s arrogance and excessive self-esteem will not lead to good. I hope (I'm sure) ours will not go to such conditions.

      The information is one-sided and "muddy" ... What the Turks wanted, and so it was announced earlier. Idlib Syrians "clean up" ... The chances are great. Some of the Turkish checkpoints are already blocked.
    3. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 59 New
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      Уверен что не пойдут на конфликт с другом Эрдоган
    4. Ramzay121 9 February 2020 11: 02 New
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      The fact is that the actions of the SAA got out of Russian control, there the Iranians rule no less. Apparently Assad didn’t listen to us at the meeting. But who cares.
  2. Incomprehensible 9 February 2020 06: 49 New
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    We climbed into a foreign land, the rights are shaking ... Americans are also masters .. for! roads block our ..
    It’s sad to read such news.
  3. Smuta 9 February 2020 06: 49 New
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    Erdogan is getting impudent ... They let the goat into the garden ..
  4. Chieftain 9 February 2020 06: 55 New
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    idlib for turkey is the same as donbass for russia! why turks do not have the right to turkish peace? Turkey will not allow Assad troops to clear these territories from pro-Turkish rebels and the situation in Syria will soon radically change not in favor of Assad
    1. maidan.izrailovich 9 February 2020 07: 40 New
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      ... an idlib for Turkey is the same as a donbass for Russia ...

      Stupidity.
      Вся Малая Азия не является исторической родиной турок. Они пришли в эти земли как завоеватели. И с самого начала пытались либо уничтожить, либо отуречить местных аборигенов. И этот процесс продолжается и по сей день. "Борьба" с курдами из этого перечня.
      1. protoss 9 February 2020 12: 12 New
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        the Turks did not find the indigenous people in Asia Minor; they have been destroyed, Hellenized, and armed for many centuries laughing
    2. Alex Nevs 9 February 2020 08: 52 New
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      У Вас КАРДИНАЛЬНАЯ ОШИБКА!! Не вводите в заблуждение.
    3. Alex Justice 9 February 2020 09: 38 New
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      idlib for turkey is the same as donbass for russia

      In the Donbass there are no Russian roadblocks and an army.
      1. Tzar 9 February 2020 10: 49 New
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        There are Russians, no Russians.
      2. boss 9 February 2020 11: 13 New
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        that's bad, less blood would be spilled!
    4. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 53 New
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      Адекватный коментарии заминусовали. .....мне нравится Россия и не нравится Турция но почему Турция не имеет право на свои интересы в своем регионе ? Форумчане сейчас думают как нато вы по отношению к РФ
      1. boss 9 February 2020 11: 32 New
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        Yes, here they are constantly minus “in a fit of passion” in expressing interests different from the interests of Russia.
        только не всегда интересы России понятны до конца и самим форумчанам.
        according to Idlib: that Turkomans are relatives of the Turks is a fact.
        the fact that they hate Assad, and they don’t want to go under him, either.
        It is also a fact that in Turkey itself there are about 4 !!! million refugees from Syria who are not eager to return and need to be fed and watered for YEARS, and Ed understands that during the storming of Idlib the number of refugees may double.
        it is a reality for Turkey and Ed, as a national leader, SHOULD do something.
        Idlib for Edik is the only way to create a buffer zone, pushing everyone there.
        Favorite fighters and unloved.
        Understand that he simply has nothing to do with these millions.
        Where to let them into Turkey if he cannot control them in Idlib ?!
        let them go to Turkey and then how did the Russians want to go to Antalya, Side and Alanya, did you want terrorist attacks?
        What is the interest of the Russian Federation?
        in my opinion the normal situation, everyone in Idlib and let them boil in their own juice, the more they live there anyway. This is exactly what Edik had in mind when speaking of the people protecting their homes.
        Well, minuserra, alga!
        the whole world in dust and cut everyone, huh?
    5. Ramzay121 9 February 2020 11: 10 New
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      Quote: Chieftain
      soon radically change not in favor of al-Assad

      The situation turned out to be no longer in Assad’s favor; he had long since lost his country, destroyed to the ground millions of refugees, and all for the sake of an armchair and external assistance. Very soon a point will be put on it.
  5. Vladimir61 9 February 2020 06: 55 New
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    Loss of mind of the mind at the state level! Anyway, I climbed into the courtyard of a neighbor, engaged in economic activity in his city and still demand from the district police officer to restrain his neighbor.
    1. Altai72 9 February 2020 13: 34 New
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      Good example. And if you look at the full picture, it looks like this. Marijuana grows in the neighbor’s garden, and his son treats her and your other neighboring children to it. Then you would definitely climb into the neighboring garden.
  6. Thrifty 9 February 2020 06: 58 New
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    Negotiations about what? The fact that the Turks simply do not want to return Syria to its land? That Erdogad, like Trump, simply vilely annexed the oil-bearing and strategic areas of Syria? At the same time, trump is hiding behind the Kurds, such as doing everything for their benefit, even oil is stolen by the United States at the request of the Kurds, it must be assumed. Turks just want to have an empire, at the expense of foreign lands. The Kremlin needs to put the Turks in place! If we signed there for something, then there can be no partial result! We must go to the end, demand from the Turks, since they lied that for the integrity of Syria, like us, like the Iranians, let Erdogad withdraw his military occupiers from Syria. There is no other solution to the question.
  7. Aliken 9 February 2020 07: 02 New
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    Erdogan got out of hand, unbelted.
  8. Tank jacket 9 February 2020 07: 04 New
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    If Erdogan began to threaten, then he is in distress ... Idlib will have to give Assad.
    1. aszzz888 9 February 2020 07: 25 New
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      Tank jacket (Ruslan) Today, 07: 04
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      If Erdogan began to threaten, then he is in distress ...Idlib will have to give Assad.

      Rather, it is such a feature of Turkish diplomacy. To have everything without giving up anything, and wanting to grab more territories. But this does not happen. Let's see how it turns out for Assad, us and the Turks.
      1. Tank jacket 9 February 2020 07: 35 New
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        У Эрдогана нет союзников в мире ни в Европе ни в США. Турция, как Польша-искусственно созданные в пику России государства. Остаётся только шипеть, осознавая, что без России им экономически не выжить после новой Ялты.
        1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 56 New
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          Кем созданы эти государства (Польша и Турция ) , когда даже Московии еше не было ??? Это были две великих империи , когда не у каждого русского и лапти были. ....если и есть искуственные так это США , при этом ей не мешает быть первой супердержавой мира !
  9. Lamata 9 February 2020 07: 40 New
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    Normally, essentially occupied part of the territory and sway
  10. Guru 9 February 2020 08: 08 New
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    Deputy Head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry Sedat Onal.
    In Russian, his surname is heard somewhat incorrectly wassat
    1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 57 New
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      В меру своей распущенности , думаю много наших фамилии по их тоже не все благородно слышатся. ..
  11. PalBor 9 February 2020 08: 32 New
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    I’m not a strategist, but just a school teacher, but as I understand it, there will not be an offensive on Idlib in the near future. That is why CAA aligned the front. No one will retreat, but for now they will take up these positions, so that the Turks do not seem like honey to honey.
    1. Altai72 9 February 2020 13: 40 New
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      To honey, to whom tar. The Turks already drove 50 regular army to Idlib. 000 armored vehicles, 500 MLRS, 100 AU. Maybe we’ll lease our army to Assad for rent?
      1. PalBor 9 February 2020 16: 07 New
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        Amazing nearby. Not one, even the Turkish resource, writes about 50, only you.
        1. Oquzyurd 9 February 2020 16: 17 New
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          Structures will not write about this, but Turkish TV correspondents in the field, at border checkpoints, etc. report that tens of thousands of military and more than 1000 units of equipment are already in the territories of Idlib province.
  12. Livonetc 9 February 2020 08: 44 New
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    Negotiations are a very strong side of Russia.
    Why not talk with a bosom partner.
    The Turks wanted a lot and talked, but little could.
    And negotiations will give more time to expand what was conquered from the terrorists and gain a foothold.
  13. Dikson 9 February 2020 09: 05 New
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    Let the goat into the garden ..)
    1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 10: 58 New
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      Which goat and who let it go?
    2. mammadov teymur 10 February 2020 07: 55 New
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      that is, Assad let Putin into Syria, you wrote about it
  14. Ros 56 9 February 2020 09: 10 New
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    Turks, you from the doorway zykhaly, chi sho. fellow negative
  15. Demagogue 9 February 2020 09: 26 New
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    The Turks are now trying to stop the breakthrough. The outcome of the negotiations depends on whether they can seize the initiative. Therefore, they have been postponed. CAA and Shiites escaped into the operational space. As I wrote, they bypass Idlib from the east, several kilometers remain to Kafr Nuran. Further north in front of them are more plains. On the plain, the barmaley have a tight time. There is a chance to grind their skeleton there. Force them to send reinforcements from the mountains there and weaken the defense in other directions.
    1. Grits 9 February 2020 12: 15 New
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      Quote: Demagogue
      As I wrote, they bypass Idlib from the east, several kilometers remain to Kafr Nuran.

      It seems to me that Kafr Nuran himself is not the main thing. The main thing in this throw is to block the route from Idlib to the Turkish border. in order to block the oxygen to the barmales in Idlib with the help of the Turks. And the Turks would not be able to transfer their equipment to his defense.
  16. Lord of the Sith 9 February 2020 10: 59 New
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    Turkish delegation is led by the deputy head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry Sedat Лnal


    As you call a ship, it will sail.
    The main thing is that the negotiations should not be through Onal laughing
  17. Ramzay121 9 February 2020 11: 03 New
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    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Chances are great

    I would say the chances are zero. All this is another bargain, cat. We see a hedgehog for several years.
  18. musorg 9 February 2020 11: 24 New
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    С кем поведёшься от того и получишь! Всё делаем для них в кредит от доброты душевной. А что получим то всё наше будет.
  19. Vladimir Mashkov 9 February 2020 11: 53 New
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    To return to the bandits patronized by Turkey, the Syrian territories for which the blood of the Syrians was paid? This is NOT even funny!
  20. protoss 9 February 2020 12: 27 New
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    What is interesting about this large-scale victorious offensive by saa? the greens lose dozens of settlements that they have been holding for years, while there are virtually no clashes, the losses are ridiculous, you can’t even see the traditional photo reports with corpses for the war, the Turks put up posts to cover the rebels' departure and at the same time take away the entire population from cities and villages, to which saa is about to enter. Asadovtsy enter empty towns.
    the question is - where did the Turks need several hundred thousand (according to some sources, more than a million) peacekids?
    after the demonstrative surrender of sarakib, it became clear to me that this was a pure agreement. it remains to wait a few days and see what our part of the deal is.
  21. Demagogue 9 February 2020 13: 58 New
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    Quote: Gritsa
    Quote: Demagogue
    As I wrote, they bypass Idlib from the east, several kilometers remain to Kafr Nuran.

    It seems to me that Kafr Nuran himself is not the main thing. The main thing in this throw is to block the route from Idlib to the Turkish border. in order to block the oxygen to the barmales in Idlib with the help of the Turks. And the Turks would not be able to transfer their equipment to his defense.


    Дык без Кафр Нурана никакой кислород не перекрыть. Захватив его, саа получает ряд вариантов: занять высоту Кафр сандал у шоссе на Идлиб и огнем перекрыть его, идти дальше на север и перезать у Батаба, например. Плюс вдоль железки ударить в тыл бармалеям у Алеппо. Это без вариантов.
  22. Mentat 9 February 2020 16: 21 New
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    Quote: Stepan80
    Кем созданы эти государства (Польша и Турция ) , когда даже Московии еше не было ??? Это были две великих империи , когда не у каждого русского и лапти были. ....если и есть искуственные так это США , при этом ей не мешает быть первой супердержавой мира !

    The knowledge of history is amazing. However, this is characteristic of all trolls. Maximum screaming with minimum confidence.
  23. Mentat 9 February 2020 16: 27 New
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    Turks in this situation do not shine from the word at all. They will have to flee from the region sloppy. Erdogan confuses Turkey with the United States, but this is far from the case, for a number of points.

    If fussing continues with the United States, Turkey will soon fall down from there. The longer Erdogan pulls, the greater will be reputational, political and economic losses.
    1. protoss 9 February 2020 22: 03 New
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      Quote: Mentat
      Turks in this situation do not shine from the word at all. They will have to flee from the region sloppy.

      then explain why suddenly under them were thousands of km2 of Syrian territory with a population of several million people?
  24. Sergey49 9 February 2020 19: 25 New
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    In negotiations, the guest is in a worse position. I'm afraid the Turks may make us an unpleasant surprise in Syria in the near future. I would be glad to make a mistake.
  25. Mentat 9 February 2020 22: 42 New
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    Quote: Mentat
    Turks in this situation do not shine from the word at all. They will have to flee from the region sloppy. Erdogan confuses Turkey with the United States, but this is far from the case, for a number of points.

    If fussing continues with the United States, Turkey will soon fall down from there. The longer Erdogan pulls, the greater will be reputational, political and economic losses.

    Again, "eagles" -minusators unbelievers ran :)
    Well, well, after a couple of months, go re-read and make sure in what direction things are going)
  26. Mentat 9 February 2020 22: 43 New
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    Quote: protoss
    Quote: Mentat
    Turks in this situation do not shine from the word at all. They will have to flee from the region sloppy.

    then explain why suddenly under them were thousands of km2 of Syrian territory with a population of several million people?

    Who told you such nonsense? “Under them” is only the territory of Turkey. Erdogan, come on bye))
  27. lvov_aleksey 10 February 2020 01: 22 New
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    I’ve already voiced before, the oil sharing has begun, star-striped bases are being built, and Erdogan needs the F-35, does the scuffle begin?
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