Lviv authorities refused to transfer the remains of a Soviet intelligence agent to Russia

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Lviv authorities refused to transfer the remains of a Soviet intelligence agent to Russia

Ukraine refused to transfer to Russia the remains of the Soviet intelligence officer Nikolai Kuznetsov, who was buried in Lviv. The mayor of the city, Andrei Sadovoy, said that the SBU and the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine should do this, and the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia.

According to Zaxid, the Lviv City Council refused to transfer the remains of Nikolai Kuznetsov to relatives in Russia. The request for the transfer of the remains was not approved by Ukrainian officials, who said that the SBU and the Foreign Ministry should deal with this issue. The decision of the City Council states that this issue will be referred to the relevant authorities.



I would like this issue to be considered in the framework of public policy. We know how many of our guys are in captivity today, today we are suffering from Russian aggression. Therefore, it is very important that the SBU and the Foreign Ministry have a clear position on this issue. If this helps to rescue our guys from captivity, we will definitely move in the wake of our country's politics

- said Sadovoy.

Recall that Nikolai Kuznetsov is a Soviet intelligence officer who worked in the German rear under the guise of a German officer. He died in 1944 in the Lviv region near the village of Boratin, fighting off Bandera who tried to capture him. A possible burial of the Kuznetsov group was discovered on September 17, 1959 in the Kutyki tract, after which the remains of Kuznetsov were reburied in Lviv on the Hill of Glory on July 27, 1960.

In today's Ukraine, the grave of Kuznetsov has been repeatedly desecrated by the followers of Bandera, and last spring a bronze bas-relief was stolen from it.
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  1. +9
    8 February 2020 19: 05
    Lviv authorities refused to transfer the remains of a Soviet intelligence agent to Russia

    Let the payas continue to grim.
    1. +62
      8 February 2020 19: 25
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      Let the payas continue to grim.

      The mayor of Lviv is not a clown, he is a female dog.
      Scout Kuznetsov Hero of the USSR. He fought so that today's Ukrainians would live under a peaceful sky, so that today's Ukrainians would not know what slavery and the Nazi yoke are, that today's Ukrainians would not know the horrors of fascism. The mayor of Lviv is not a man. He is a demon from the underworld. A man who has forgotten his past ceases to be him, he turns into an indefinite being.
      1. +27
        8 February 2020 19: 37
        Mayor Sadovaya dirtied all of Ukraine with Lviv garbage. What else could be expected from such a "individual". Who literally captured the ashes of the Hero.
        1. +11
          8 February 2020 19: 49
          Quote: knn54
          ". Who literally captured the ashes of the Hero.

          Not a prisoner. Took hostage
          and the remains of a scout can be exchanged on Ukrainians arrested in Russia.
          1. +5
            8 February 2020 22: 05
            and the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia

            The whole essence of them is in this .. Sell my mother mother .. Russia has already been betrayed! Vile people.
            1. +1
              9 February 2020 06: 27
              The mayor of the city, Andrei Sadovoy, said that the SBU and the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine should deal with this, and the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia.

              Terrorist Sadovyi in the city hall should pay a visit comrade Caliber. From, I can smell it, Russian-Ukrainian relations will then sparkle with new colors.
      2. +9
        8 February 2020 20: 10
        Quote: Arlen
        he is a female dog

        do not insult dogs
        1. +13
          8 February 2020 20: 20
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          do not insult dogs

        2. +12
          8 February 2020 21: 07
          do not insult dogs and clowns, too, clowns, artists, and these are just bandera pigs.
          1. +12
            8 February 2020 21: 21
            Quote: Balu
            and these are just banders

            1. -2
              9 February 2020 09: 05
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Balu
              and these are just banders


              This staged photo is not prohibited anywhere.
              Although for reconstruction errors - should at least be condemned.
              Reconstructors screwed up with awards and clothing and a cap.
      3. +6
        8 February 2020 22: 05
        Quote: Arlen
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Let the payas continue to grim.

        The mayor of Lviv is not a clown, he is a female dog.
        Scout Kuznetsov Hero of the USSR. He fought so that today's Ukrainians would live under a peaceful sky, so that today's Ukrainians would not know what slavery and the Nazi yoke are, that today's Ukrainians would not know the horrors of fascism. The mayor of Lviv is not a man. He is a demon from the underworld. A man who has forgotten his past ceases to be him, he turns into an indefinite being.

        Yes, I fought for it, only the Western Ukrainian Banderlog shit used to be slaves: even Austria-Hungary, even Poland, even the Nazis, even the USA and the EU to lick: what’s going on with great joy for banderlazhe today is their essence being lifeless stupid slaves .
        And the garden is just a complete scum, which is apparently very sorry for those times when Banderlog shit with great pleasure served the German Nazis. So he is trying to the best of his powers to spoil those who defeated the Nazis and broke the wet dreams of the Banderlog scum
    2. +16
      8 February 2020 19: 31
      Ghouls dance on bones! There are not enough words!
      1. +11
        8 February 2020 20: 10
        Quote: Welldone
        Ghouls dance on bones! There are not enough words!

        Khrushchev must say thank you, he rehabilitated most of Bandera’s
    3. +5
      9 February 2020 01: 16
      the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia.

      Taking the grave hostage is the height of filth and cynicism. It will not be forgiven him, not at earthly judgment, not at God.
  2. +26
    8 February 2020 19: 06
    It is a pity that ghosts do not exist. And how great it would be if he lifted his spirits, and began to strangle these bastards right in the beds ... Cowards can only fight with the graves. Well, or with fictitious aggressors.
    Under the real, they immediately LIE ...
    1. +36
      8 February 2020 19: 09
      This is the bottom, use the remains of the deceased more than 75 years ago for any bargaining.
      1. +3
        8 February 2020 19: 26
        Quote: qqqq
        This is the bottom, use the remains of the deceased more than 75 years ago for any bargaining.

        Kuznetsov was killed by Bandera.
        They are proud of it.
        It was a feat! For this, at present, it is necessary to reward!
        Here would be a hero who personally killed him, 404 would definitely become a hero!
        Well, how not to mock the ashes of the enemy?
        1. +7
          8 February 2020 19: 42
          Quote: Victor_B
          Well, how not to mock the ashes of the enemy?

          I think that they don’t give it away because they know sooner or later how the northern fox will come to Bandera’s state, and then they will restore the monument and introduce themselves as partisans who preserved our hero.
          1. +3
            8 February 2020 22: 10
            This is the bottom, use the remains of the deceased more than 75 years ago for any bargaining.

            I agree! Vile bottom country!
        2. 0
          8 February 2020 21: 09
          Quote: Victor_B
          Kuznetsov was killed by Bandera.

          there is some kind of murky complicated story, the sherms understood.
          1. 0
            8 February 2020 22: 58
            Quote: Balu
            there is some kind of murky complicated story, the sherms understood.

            Well, theoretically, they did not kill the Soviet intelligence officer Nikolai Kuznetsov, but the German officer Paul Siebert.
            But now they are proud of the murder Nikolay Kuznetsov!
            1. -3
              9 February 2020 05: 37
              Quote: Victor_B
              Well, theoretically, they did not kill the Soviet intelligence officer Nikolai Kuznetsov, but the German officer Paul Siebert.

              The fact of the matter is that partisans could have killed him.
        3. 0
          9 February 2020 17: 24
          No need to go far. Khrushchev also mocked the late Stalin. Apple from the apple tree ......
      2. 0
        8 February 2020 19: 39
        Quote: qqqq
        This is the bottom, use the remains of the deceased more than 75 years ago for any bargaining.

        Well, and how does it feel after this?
        Yes, I'd rather bite off my tongue than call them "brothers"
        1. +4
          8 February 2020 19: 47
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Well, and how does it feel after this?
          Yes, I'd rather bite off my tongue than call them "brothers"
          Alas!
          I can’t call them all like that ...
          Zapadentsev, and the current young Natsiks (six years ago they were 12-14 years old) with brainwashed - only the grave will correct. Or a loop!
          1. +16
            8 February 2020 19: 52
            Quote: Victor_B
            Or a loop!

            I dream that as in Odessa in 1944
            1. +1
              8 February 2020 19: 53
              Well, a hundred or two worthy right now!
              Widely known to everyone!
            2. +2
              8 February 2020 20: 04
              Hang like handsome.
              1. +3
                8 February 2020 20: 05
                Quote: 4ekist
                Hang like handsome.

                First is handsomely deservedly!
      3. +4
        8 February 2020 20: 34
        Quote: qqqq
        This is the bottom, use the remains of the deceased more than 75 years ago for any bargaining.

        God stripped them of their minds and this is again confirmed.
  3. -15
    8 February 2020 19: 07
    Why touch the dead, one asks? Let them rest where they were buried.
    1. +15
      8 February 2020 19: 17
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Why touch the dead, one asks? Let them rest where they were buried.

      Then, that his relatives today cannot visit the grave of the deceased! And what do you think they have to do?
      1. -20
        8 February 2020 19: 19
        Then, that his relatives today cannot visit the grave of the deceased!

        Who told you this nonsense?
        Did his relatives tell you personally, or did they think of it themselves?
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 20: 20
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Who told you this nonsense?

          In Google, or Yandex, look, then yourself
          1. -1
            8 February 2020 20: 23
            Quote: businessv
            In Google, or Yandex, look, then yourself

            Better in the "censor"
          2. -3
            9 February 2020 09: 16
            Quote: businessv
            In Google, or Yandex, look, then yourself

            and let's
            Google
            Monument in Lviv

            Kuznetsov is buried in Lviv. The niece of the scout asked the city authorities to transfer the remains of a relative to her - since the grave of Kuznetsov in Lviv was constantly becoming the object of abuse.
            However, Sadovoy refused the woman on the pretext that until Russia returned the held Ukrainians, she would not receive dust. That is, the mayor of Lviv decided to make the ashes of the deceased a subject for bargaining.

            source Country yua
            Access to the niece is not forbidden (Russians can freely fly even to Lviv, the main thing is a passport)
            But this is not a problem for her
            Kuznetsov was posthumously awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union. He died in battle with the UPA on March 8, 1944 in the village of Boratin, Brody district, Lviv region.
            His grave is located on the Hill of Glory in Lviv. This is a memorial in honor of the soldiers who died in the First World War, and the soldiers of the Soviet army who died in the Second World War. Over the past few years, she has repeatedly been subjected to vandalism.
            The leadership of the Sverdlovsk region of Russia and the niece of the scout earlier in a letter asked the Lviv authorities to exhume the remains for further reburial in Russia. The basis is the constant attacks on the grave of Kuznetsov by local nationalists.
            But in Lviv they decided to postpone consideration of the issue. That is, in fact, refused. This decision was made by the Executive Committee of the City Council on February 7.
            The mayor of Lviv, Andrei Sadovy, proposed postponing the question and turning to the heads of the Foreign Ministry and the Security Service of Ukraine.
            "We understand that the war continues, there is Russian aggression. When we receive letters from Russia about the reburial of the ashes, I would like us to have a clear position of the state. I know many cases when such issues are resolved at the level of the country's presidents." - said Sadovy.

            Verdict - measures do not want to take responsibility. Not only does he make stupid offers, he also does not know how such transfers are carried out.
            Niece's advice. Wait out. All s14 lose their leaders. The glow subsides. Paint can be tolerated. And the grave should be in Lviv.
            there is a video, I don’t know how everyone will understand
            1. +2
              9 February 2020 14: 24
              Quote: Σελήνη
              let's google

              Come on!

              [thumb] https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2020-02/1581247276_1022912265.jpg [/ thuаmb]
              [thumb]https://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2020-02/1581247323_1533030231_2.jpg[/thumb]
              People like you prefer not to notice the truth, or pour water on the mill of their masters under the striped flags. As for the visit of Kuznetsov’s relatives to the square, I’ll ask you a question: do you want to go to Iran with your Israeli passport to visit architectural monuments? It is a pity, two more pictures were not uploaded, on which the bas-relief is completely absent, it was stupidly stolen.
              The grave should be in Lviv.
              The grave should be where the relatives of the deceased determined a place for it, so that it would be convenient for them to look after it and visit the ashes when it is convenient for them, and not when they are allowed ghouls like the Lviv city governor!
    2. +9
      8 February 2020 19: 28
      If the policy of vandals and idiots, sick of nationalism is flourishing on Krajina, if monuments are periodically desecrated and officials of all ranks tacitly support it, on the basis of this, the youngest people, most frostbitten, not afraid of punishment, do vile things at the graves, so they can really rebury the hero back home, that fellow countrymen and descendants would be proud, revered and remembered and Bandera-fascist henchmen, they hated even more ...
    3. 0
      8 February 2020 19: 40
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Why touch the dead, one asks? Let them rest where they were buried.

      Yes, I do not want to
      In today's Ukraine Kuznetsov’s grave has been repeatedly desecrated followers of Bandera, and last spring a bronze bas-relief was stolen from it.

      Is it "Let them rest"?


      1. -5
        8 February 2020 19: 46
        I know. Your suggestions? Exhume the grave? So the Sumerians will not give.
        They mock the deceased a sweet deal. Between Khryaschevaty and Lugansk, on the Acute Grave, by my miracle, the grave of my grandfather did not suffer, they beat with mortars at the cemetery.

        In general, it’s better to think about the living.
        1. -3
          8 February 2020 19: 55
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          . Your suggestions?

          These are not my suggestions.
          Lviv City Council refused to transfer the remains of Nikolai Kuznetsov relatives in Russia.
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 19: 57
            Everyone can criticize and put down cons, but specifically, no.
            If this bothers you so much, do something, rather than sit in a chair.

            This is your phrase below:
            "These are just remains."

            Yes, you are two-faced.
            1. -4
              8 February 2020 20: 09
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Everyone can criticize and put down minuses,

              Not minus
              and specifically offer no

              Give the remains
              If this bothers you so much, do something, rather than sit in a chair.

              Muzzle measure measure?
              That is your phrase:
              "These are just remains"

              My
              Yes, you are two-faced.

              In what
    4. +1
      9 February 2020 09: 49
      Why touch the dead, one asks? Let them rest where they were buried.

      Relatives decide, not you.
  4. -14
    8 February 2020 19: 07
    No, well, that’s right. Not the mayor to resolve such issues. Of course, he stuck to politics in vain, and Kuznetsov is not an ordinary figure on the main issue.
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      1. -6
        8 February 2020 19: 50
        That is, we do not want to delve into the essence of the issue, but we want to dial "pluses" on the ringing hype? Let's dig deeper. Hero of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov was buried in Lviv on the "Hill of Glory", if I'm not mistaken. The place is significant, guarded and included in the excursion routes.
        And who believes that someone will allow the ordinary mayor to start moving the ashes from there to somewhere? Well, show such laws!
        Or do you think that if dill wants to return the dust of Khrushchev to themselves, then they need to turn to Sobyanin? !!
        And the fact that Maryshka blurted out this obvious meanness, so it seems to everyone understand.
        1. 0
          9 February 2020 09: 22
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Or do you think that if dill wants to return the dust of Khrushchev to themselves, then they need to turn to Sobyanin? !!

          In 1991, Sergey Khrushchev was invited to the United States to give lectures on the history of the Cold War. The conditions offered to him turned out to be so good that Sergey Nikitich retrained from a design engineer as a political scientist, and remained in the United States.
          You can then arrange a competition - Sergey (only son) from the USA, Kursk from the Russian Federation (by birth) and Kiev for relatives living
    2. -11
      8 February 2020 19: 42
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Kuznetsov is not an ordinary figure.

      These are just the remains
      1. -4
        8 February 2020 20: 25
        I wanted to say that for relatives.
        They ask for the remains to be issued
        1. -1
          9 February 2020 09: 29
          Quote: Lipchanin
          I wanted to say that for relatives.
          They ask for the remains to be issued

          in vain did they even contact Sadovoy. The figure is unpleasant even for Lviv residents.
          He does not solve anything. Only PR.
          They really need to contact the president.
          But he will not "trade in corpses" most likely.
          But contact Lviv and even from the Russian Federation ... there is a sharp attitude to this.
          The Lviv Consulate of the Russian Federation should officially redirect to the Kiev Embassy of the Russian Federation. Charge d'Affaires Alexander Petrovich Lukashik
          (he’s been temporary for 4 years, truly nothing is so permanent-as temporary_)
          He must refer the matter to the Presidential Administration of Ukraine.
  5. +5
    8 February 2020 19: 08
    What uk-roina, what polyahiya, one rotten field of berries! Mockery of the monuments, their desecration, and the demolition of these imperfections in the order of things! But, enrages the inactivity of our Foreign Ministry, the silence of the Kremlin! Sometimes, the idea comes to mind that only the dismemberment of Ukraine will stop those insanities that five years ago were considered impossible there, but now it is a terrible mass daily routine.
  6. +2
    8 February 2020 19: 11
    Is that really true belay
    1. +4
      8 February 2020 20: 33
      Quote: abvgdeika
      Is that really true belay

      Yes. Here is a link to the words of this Bandera.
      https://zaxid.net/lvivska_meriya_vidmovilas__viddati_ostanki_rozvidnika_mikoli_kuznyetsova_v_rosiyu_n1497321

      Even extracts from the comments of the non-brothers, the site’s censorship does not miss.
      The impunity of the bandits ends in concentration camps. By the way, "the entire enlightened West" does not see or hear this.
      1. -6
        8 February 2020 20: 56
        Quote: Terenin
        By the way, "all enlightened

        This is their "enlightenment"
        All west in one photo
        Forgive me admins recourse
        Last warning left recourse
        1. -1
          9 February 2020 09: 31
          Quote: Lipchanin
          All west in one photo

          yes the whole world is like that.
          A cool photo. I have not seen it before.
          You can explain a lot of things, from the essence of women / people / officials / etc
      2. -2
        8 February 2020 21: 04
        Quote: Terenin
        Yes. Here is a link to the words of this Bandera.

        More than half did not understand.
        But I know this language.
        When you communicate with them everything seems to be clear. But how to read, I don’t understand
        1. +3
          8 February 2020 22: 08
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Terenin
          Yes. Here is a link to the words of this Bandera.

          More than half did not understand.
          But I know this language.
          When you communicate with them everything seems to be clear. But how to read, I don’t understand

          And why is there something incomprehensible? Wispy and spoiled - completely!
          1. -1
            8 February 2020 22: 12
            Quote: Terenin
            And why is there something incomprehensible? Wispy and spoiled - completely!

            Yes, it’s long been known without this article.
            1. +3
              8 February 2020 22: 13
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Terenin
              And why is there something incomprehensible? Wispy and spoiled - completely!

              Yes, it’s long been known without this article.

              As can be seen from the comments, not everyone understands.
              1. -3
                8 February 2020 22: 17
                Quote: Terenin
                As can be seen from the comments, not everyone understands.

                From the age of 14 we cannot prove this
  7. 0
    8 February 2020 19: 12
    my tongue will never again call the inhabitants of Ukraine PEOPLE.
  8. +10
    8 February 2020 19: 12
    Mayor Andrei Sadovoy said that the SBU and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine should do this, and the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia. In today's Ukraine, Kuznetsov’s grave has been repeatedly desecrated by followers of Bandera, and a bronze bas-relief was stolen from it last spring.

    Nonhumans.
    1. +2
      8 February 2020 23: 15
      Or maybe give them those arrested ... in the form of dust?
  9. +8
    8 February 2020 19: 13
    This is what scum and insignificance you need to be in order to fight the dead. And preZE already surpassed in cowardice and meanness of all former Ukrainian dwellers combined.
  10. +6
    8 February 2020 19: 14
    A brothel of the poor, not a country, God forgive me for calling it the word "country"
  11. +5
    8 February 2020 19: 16
    In today's Ukraine, the grave of Kuznetsov has been repeatedly desecrated by the followers of Bandera, and last spring a bronze bas-relief was stolen from it.
    I won’t be surprised if these moral freaks arrange a trial of the dead hero and simply destroy the burial place!
    1. -1
      8 February 2020 20: 11
      Quote: businessv
      I won’t be surprised if these moral freaks arrange a trial of the dead hero and simply destroy the burial place!

      They will become
  12. +10
    8 February 2020 19: 17
    The mayor of the city, Andrei Sadovoy, said that the SBU and the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine should deal with this, and the remains of a scout can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia.

    Heroes to gangster trash change? Well then, bring those arrested to inanimate state.
    1. -2
      8 February 2020 19: 56
      Quote: Good
      Well then, bring those arrested to inanimate state.

      It will be tantamount to
  13. +9
    8 February 2020 19: 20
    my dream is that Lviv is part of Poland, and let them live there, the Poles there also have a grudge against Westerners.
    1. +4
      8 February 2020 19: 51
      Yes, they all loved dearly. Russians, Ukrainians, Poles ... The Austrians for them were the first in Europe to concentration camp ... They know how to arouse tender feelings for themselves
    2. +1
      8 February 2020 19: 54
      Quote: Tonya
      my dream is that Lviv is part of Poland, and let them live there, the Poles there also have a grudge against Westerners.

      I’m here with Madame from Kharkov, she corresponded crazy, from the Poles, it turns out, the Poles to the Maidan, arranged free training for the Harkovites, especially for the Harkovans in Polish institutes. So before the Maidan in Kharkov they prayed for the Poles, she was so glad that her girl was studying in Poland, and she had business in Poland. And when I asked about the fact that people were burned in Odessa, she replied that her son was there, that these football fans had a great time .....
      1. +2
        8 February 2020 20: 13
        Is business in Poland prostitution?
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 21: 00
          Quote: 4ekist
          Is business in Poland prostitution?

          She said that she studied at the institute for free and she was offered a job in Poland, this correspondence was on Ekho Moskvy in 2014, I was surprised that she was a 40-year-old lady, like a Russian-speaking, who called those against Maidan, smelly titushki, so the Poles handled them well, then they banned me, now I would like to know how she is doing and how she is feeling now
      2. +1
        8 February 2020 21: 01
        in Poland, if you are not a stubborn patriot, you can live and work quietly, a good standard of living, but if you are a wild Zapadensky Natsik, you are not particularly welcome either in Poland or in Kharkov. I am sure that the rest of Ukraine will not be orphaned without them; they are one of the main destructive forces in the country.
  14. +7
    8 February 2020 19: 21
    Stunned well, why did the ruling power in Ukraine scribble, you rewrote the story, you are engaged in decommunization, you all abstained from the Soviet and threw it in the trash, but then you grabbed it in the dust, again you are trying to gain something for yourself!
    What kind of people are they, and then they get offended when they are called ... lamas!
    1. +1
      8 February 2020 20: 30
      Oligarchs damn it.
      1. -3
        8 February 2020 21: 05
        Quote: Suhow
        Oligarchs damn it.

        And what does this have to do with it? belay
  15. +11
    8 February 2020 19: 23
    The deceased turns into a commodity - at least blasphemy. This is appropriate barbarians, but not civilized people!
  16. +6
    8 February 2020 19: 25
    Yes, already heard ... They are there such organisms - you think everything, nowhere to go further. But they confidently break through the next bottom.
    Well then, they also need to give them their "prisoners" in the form of remains ...
  17. +3
    8 February 2020 19: 27
    exchange the remains for prisoners - blasphemy
    1. -1
      8 February 2020 19: 58
      Quote: Lamata
      exchange the remains for prisoners - blasphemy

      Moreover, the Minsk agreements themselves signed where there is a clause on the exchange of prisoners
      1. +1
        8 February 2020 21: 20
        Sorry, but in my opinion the administration of Krajina did not care about the agreements.
        1. -2
          8 February 2020 21: 26
          Quote: Lamata
          Sorry, but in my opinion the administration of Krajina did not care about the agreements.

          That's it. They didn’t give a damn about the exchange of prisoners, but now they’ve gathered to change the ashes
      2. -1
        9 February 2020 09: 35
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Moreover, the Minsk agreements themselves signed where there is a clause on the exchange of prisoners

        extradition of the dead is carried out without exchange.
        By the way, Sadovym was reminded of this.
        In general, the opposition newspapers of Ukraine also caught hype and unanimously accused Sadovoy of trading in corpses and of not knowing the processes and so on.
        I think Sadovoi is the last term of measures.
  18. +2
    8 February 2020 19: 38
    Scum. On the dead, recoup
  19. +7
    8 February 2020 19: 38
    What are the politicians, such is the policy ...
    Another geek of the human race hatched.
    Nothing new, by the way.
    1. +2
      8 February 2020 20: 28
      It was expected ....
  20. +3
    8 February 2020 19: 42
    The request for the reburial of Kuznetsov’s remains in Yekaterinburg was back in 2000. Then the military burial commission refused
  21. +1
    8 February 2020 19: 45
    Why prolonged gas transit and even gave 3 lyam to dill without including political demands to stop closing Russian schools, open the North Crimean channel, etc. above idiocy! Lavrov with all these millers and zubkovye it’s high time to chase them away! But alas, someone their doesn't give up ...
  22. +3
    8 February 2020 19: 47
    Quote: knn54
    Mayor Sadovaya dirtied all of Ukraine with Lviv garbage. What else could be expected from such a "individual". Who literally captured the ashes of the Hero.

    Lviv garbage, Raguli bent all over Ukraine, and Odessa was raped
  23. +7
    8 February 2020 19: 47
    All the shobla of the Ukrainian "guys" sitting in Russia are not worth a hair of Kuznetsov.
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  25. +5
    8 February 2020 19: 51
    Satanists, yes, norms, this is a vaccine - do not take prisoners !!!, humanists are bad - I can’t
  26. +3
    8 February 2020 19: 56
    The remains refused to transfer the remains. Symptomatically ...
  27. +3
    8 February 2020 20: 11
    Quote: qqqq
    Quote: Victor_B
    Well, how not to mock the ashes of the enemy?

    I think that they don’t give it away because they know sooner or later how the northern fox will come to Bandera’s state, and then they will restore the monument and introduce themselves as partisans who preserved our hero.

    They do not remember what happened yesterday, but to think so far into the future, all the more so.
    These bastards mock the grave and want to continue this further. Having given, mocking at an empty place is another. It does not bring an orgasm.
  28. +1
    8 February 2020 20: 15
    Strange anti-Soviet and anti-communists, regret the monument of the communist. Only for some reason, it seems to me that the communist Nikolai Ivanovich, if he had survived to this day, would have been unhappy with the monuments of Solzhenitsyn, Mannerheim, Yeltsin. To how oppress the people.
  29. +9
    8 February 2020 20: 18
    By the nature of work in the 80s often had to be in Lviv. There, in my submission, there was an enterprise named after V.I. Lenin. Issued air defense systems. I liked the city, very beautiful. And the cemetery is especially beautiful, it was decorated with sculptures, as in the Lavra in Leningrad (now St. Petersburg). I bowed to the dust of our hero. As in Berlin, the monument to our soldier with a German girl in her arms.
    1. 0
      9 February 2020 09: 39
      Quote: midshipman
      And the cemetery is especially beautiful, it was decorated with sculptures, as in the Lavra in Leningrad (now St. Petersburg)

      was in the Lavra. In Lviv, 2 times, but did not compare.
      I know Petersburg better from books (I did not read much about Lviv), but as a city it differs sharply from the rest. The influence of Catholicism and the capital of Orthodoxy (formerly Petersburg) all the same.
      Religion leaves its mark on architecture.
  30. +4
    8 February 2020 20: 18
    Bandera ub.lyudkov something to ask, do not respect yourself, I think even Nikolai would be against to humiliate them, those geeks are just stupidly bargaining.
  31. +2
    8 February 2020 20: 22
    We have enough freaks, but Kuznetsov is a hero for me. And they only take revenge on the dead. The dead do not have a shame. Soldiers are richer.
  32. +1
    8 February 2020 20: 26
    The exchange can only be equivalent. The remains of a hero can only be exchanged for the remains of "heroes". And if they are not yet in the form of remains, then, therefore, you need to go to meet Pan Sadovy.
  33. +3
    8 February 2020 20: 26
    What kind of non-humans do you need to be? Bandera scum!
  34. -3
    8 February 2020 20: 28
    He looks like my son. hi What is the article about? Tu 22 m3 and Tu 160 for battle !!!? What should we respond to this abomination of the Lviv bureaucrats? If the battle is so battle. Why shake the air.
  35. +5
    8 February 2020 20: 53
    "... and the remains of a spy can be exchanged for Ukrainians arrested in Russia ..."
    And if the ukrofashists are offered to exchange the remains of N.I. Kuznetsov for the REMAINS of ukrofashists, "arrested in Russia ..."? Alive for living, and remains for remains. In my opinion, fair. Let them choose which ukrofashists the remains will be taken away while they are alive ...
  36. +2
    8 February 2020 21: 24
    Quote: Food
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Did I bring them to power?

    Is there really a people in power?
    Quote: Lipchanin
    I skipped all the unfinished "maskalakunagilaku"?

    A bunch of ub people jumped.
    And if our country will be judged by representatives of the authorities?

    Well, yes, well, yes, the verse became famous, the same only Bandera read and admired, a lover of lace panties. And Poroshenko and the pastor were overthrown, because they arranged in the country and started a war. Yanokovych was overthrown, but these are not. Etc. etc.
    PS It would be interesting to talk with Anastasia Dmitruk, the author of "We will never be brothers". Has her opinion changed in the intervening time, how much is left of that righteous anger of 2014.
    1. -1
      9 February 2020 09: 43
      Quote: ALSur
      PS It would be interesting to talk with Anastasia Dmitruk, the author of "We will never be brothers". Has her opinion changed in the intervening time, how much is left of that righteous anger of 2014.

      is she on social networks
      In fact, everything is fine with her now: she, as an officially recognized author, gives concerts, not only in Ukraine, but also in Europe. Apparently, the girl is not in poverty: in social networks, she actively uploads photos taken on vacation. Here she opens a bottle of champagne in Paris, here she sits behind the wheel of a luxurious convertible. Apparently, a collection of poems entitled “Surrender only for love” brought Madame Dmitruk great financial success.
      constantly fakes about her
      But the media and social networks stubbornly “fuse” Nastya from Nezalezhnaya. They write that she is in Russia, or they report that she moved to live in the Czech Republic
  37. -1
    8 February 2020 21: 26
    It is necessary to organize a special corporation and take all of their own from these under-Bender bastards !!!
    Especially such faithful soldiers as Kuznetsov! Which died at the hands of these freaks!
    1. -2
      8 February 2020 21: 55
      Quote: Alexey G
      It is necessary to organize a special corporation and take all of their own from these under-Bender bastards !!!

      Have you seen enough Hollywood action movies?
      Like an adult ....
      1. -1
        8 February 2020 22: 54
        And what do you suggest? To belittle? To ask not to offend us, our memory? Are you an adult? I suggest being yourself! Show who is the boss in the house! Let's join Ukraine! This is better?
        1. -2
          8 February 2020 23: 27
          Quote: Alexey G
          And what do you suggest?

          I propose to take up the mind and think a little
          Do you have any idea what a special operation is?
          A few questions.
          What forces to carry it out?
          How can these forces be delivered to the operation site?
          Or to several places.
          How long does it take to conduct an operation?
          How then to evacuate all fighters and released prisoners?
          And when you answer all the questions, ask yourself another question.
          What will happen to those who decide to conduct such a special operation in Russia?
          How long will they fight?
          Show who is the boss in the house!

          In which House?
          Let's join Ukraine!

          Did I offer this? belay
          1. +2
            9 February 2020 00: 35
            Well, firstly in Russia, no one humiliates the dead! I do not know such cases. Call if you know?
            Regarding forces and means, this is a technical question! Do not discuss it here ...
          2. +2
            9 February 2020 00: 39
            I propose to take up the mind and think a little

            Good offer! You have in the picture just a thinking person with a reader! Think ... And subhuman will humiliate grandfathers in the meantime ...
      2. +2
        8 February 2020 22: 55
        There is one more option! Do not talk about it at all ... Pretend that this is not!
        1. +2
          8 February 2020 23: 01
          Well, you can still shoot Bandera one at a time!
          1. -2
            8 February 2020 23: 27
            Quote: Alexey G
            Well, you can still shoot Bandera one at a time!

            I instruct you to do this soldier
            1. +2
              9 February 2020 00: 31
              I can’t be entrusted with only ordering me with shoulder straps!
    2. 0
      9 February 2020 02: 57
      Quote: Alexey G
      It is necessary to organize a special corporation and take all of their own from these under-Bender bastards !!!
      Especially such faithful soldiers as Kuznetsov! Which died at the hands of these freaks!

      So then the whole group of Kuznetsov, all his comrades must be taken away — he didn’t accomplish his exploits, but with his group of scouts and saboteurs, who ensured success, the local underground helped him with direct assistance and provided the necessary information, and the base was in Medvedev’s partisan detachment . Many people worked and died to ensure the successful operations of Nikolai Kuznetsov.
      The underground girls from the Kuznetsov group were killed after the liberation of those places from the Nazis!
      All of them should be dug up together with the commander and taken back to the Russian Federation, and the rest of our Red Army men who died during the liberation of the occupied Ukrainian SSR, our fathers and grandfathers should be left, perhaps, for desecration and gesheft to the vile banderlog ?! Let the caring relatives of the millions of those killed themselves ransom the ashes from these "garden" - "cemetery traders" ??!

      After all, "barter" Russia from the Galitsaevs with the w / Bandera ashes of Nikolai Kuznetsov, and "the process will go on" - "gesheft" will unfold - trade in the remains of our soldiers ?!
      Banderlog will easily find "objects" for their base "gesheft" - because of the common and individual graves of Soviet soldiers, including once or twice Heroes of the Soviet Union, in Ukraine in abundance, and in buried trenches, craters and pits, in swamps and the copses of 1941 and 43-44 of our Defenders of the Fatherland lie a lot on Ukrainian territory ...
      Isn't it easier (and in many ways cheaper) to crush the Bandera reptile so that it does not shit on the graves of millions of our Heroes, as the same Lvov banderlog has been shitting for years, "grabbing" the territory of the former Soviet frontier post, which took battle in June 1941, and arranged its own toilet directly at the common grave of heroic border guards ??!
      After all, the sluggish scandal with mockery of the grave of Nikolai Kuznetsov is only "the tip of the iceberg"!
      1. +1
        9 February 2020 10: 44
        I agree! Crush the reptile and the point!
  38. +1
    8 February 2020 21: 44
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Why touch the dead, one asks? Let them rest where they were buried.

    And if they mock the grave. Leave as is?
  39. -1
    8 February 2020 22: 00
    But Lviv is a beautiful city, my grandmother and mother were born there.
  40. -1
    8 February 2020 22: 10
    A very big mistake was made in 2014 that they did not restore order in Ukraine, then it was easier to do.
    1. -2
      8 February 2020 22: 18
      Quote: Chaldon48
      In 2014, a very big mistake was made that they did not restore order in Ukraine,

      How so?
      1. 0
        8 February 2020 22: 24
        Quote: Lipchanin
        How so?

        the most direct, Ukraine to squeeze to the Lviv region to squeeze out banderlogs and Poland would have dealt with them.
        what could all this be done legally
        1. -2
          8 February 2020 22: 26
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          the most direct, squeeze Ukraine to the Lviv region squeeze

          I ask again, how?
          what could all this be done legally

          Which ones?
          1. 0
            9 February 2020 07: 48
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Which ones?

            we had a LEGITIMATE president in our hands; he could ask for help quite completely to suppress the Nazi coup
            Quote: Lipchanin
            I ask again, how?

            the same as in Crimea
            1. -1
              9 February 2020 07: 55
              Quote: Barmaleyka
              we had a LEGITIMATE president in our hands; he could ask for help quite completely to suppress the Nazi coup

              Should he be forced to do it under torture?
              the same as in Crimea

              Our troops were already in Crimea. And so there was no military invasion.
              And Crimea had a separate status
              Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Autonomous Republic of Crimea (Ukrainian. Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Autonomous Republic of Crimea, Crimean-Tat. Qırım Muhtar Cumhuriyeti, Kyrym Mukhtar Dzhumhurieti, QMC, KMJ) is an autonomous republic within Ukraine [4].

              Crimean autonomy within Ukraine was formed by the law of the Ukrainian SSR of February 12, 1991 as the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. In 1992, autonomy was renamed to the Republic of Crimea [5] [6], and in 1994 to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea [7].

              In February – March 2014, the actual accession of Crimea to the Russian Federation was carried out, within the framework of the federal structure of which the constituent entities of the federation were formed in the corresponding territory - the Republic of Crimea and the city of federal significance Sevastopol

              Well, according to what law and how do you propose to attach the outskirts?
              1. +1
                9 February 2020 08: 19
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Should he be forced to do it under torture?

                firstly, a policy in white gloves is not done
                secondly, what kind of torture, option once return to Ukraine, option two sits and importantly inflates his cheeks voices what he is ordered
              2. +1
                9 February 2020 08: 23
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Our troops were already in Crimea. And so there was no military invasion.
                And Crimea had a separate status

                let's not pretend to be pioneer girls
      2. +1
        8 February 2020 22: 28
        Unfortunately, the military as in Georgia, only more decisive, with the capture of Kiev. There is no other way.
        1. -2
          8 February 2020 22: 47
          Quote: Chaldon48
          Unfortunately, the military as in Georgia,

          Georgia is the aggressor. Therefore, no one jerked for them.
          We would send troops there. Who is the aggressor?
          Instantly asking for help from NATO, NATO is entering the outskirts.
          Moreover, most of the population firmly believes that they have a revolution and they are overthrowing the "bloody Yanuca"
          Have you ordered a third world?
          Further. In our country 91 and 93 the same thing happened.
          Now imagine that someone has brought in his troops to restore order with us.
          Your actions?
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 23: 59
            As in the case of Georgia, the third world will not happen, for the simple reason that the presence of suicide leaders is not visible, and the support for Ukraine has long been developed with all the details and is called "Mechanical Orange" and was posted on the Internet long before 2014.
            1. -2
              9 February 2020 00: 25
              Quote: Chaldon48
              As is the case with Georgia

              I repeat, I will quote
              Georgia is the aggressor. Therefore, no one jerked for them.

              We enter the outskirts and we are the aggressors, with the ensuing consequences.
              Even without a third war, then we were ready to butt with NATO plus the population of the outskirts.?
              1. +2
                9 February 2020 01: 07
                Who told you that NATO will butt Russia over Ukraine, and the population of Ukraine, you think, will willingly go to fight for Zelensky and his elite?
              2. -1
                9 February 2020 07: 51
                Quote: Lipchanin
                We enter the outskirts and we are the aggressors, with the ensuing consequences.

                which, in addition, I write again, we could enter there at the request of the Legislative Government
          2. -1
            9 February 2020 07: 50
            Quote: Lipchanin
            We would send troops there. Who is the aggressor?

            no one could send troops at the request of the Ukrainian government
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Have you ordered a third world?

            don’t tell anyone, they would impose sanctions like that, and so they did, but if Ukraine joined, we would get industry and CX wouldn’t have to build a joint venture BOTH and there would be no hemorrhoids on the border
            1. 0
              9 February 2020 08: 03
              Quote: Barmaleyka
              but if Ukraine joins, we would get industry

              RJUNIMAGU laughing
              Which industry? laughing
              They already destroyed everything they could.
              Now they are just finishing. Another collar around your neck?
              1. -1
                9 February 2020 08: 17
                Quote: Lipchanin
                RJUNIMAGU

                are you a horse
                usually laugh horses
                Quote: Lipchanin
                They already destroyed everything they could.

                Do not specify for what the Chinese are fighting in Ukraine ?!
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Another collar around your neck?

                Well, a muzzle in the form of military bases at hand is better
                1. 0
                  9 February 2020 08: 33
                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  are you a horse
                  usually laugh horses

                  Nah, I'm a horse laughing
                  Do not specify for what the Chinese are fighting in Ukraine ?!

                  NO INDUSTRY on the outskirts. Well, or almost.
                  Well, a muzzle in the form of military bases at hand is better

                  May they never be there.
                  I ended this conversation.
                  Tired of listening to those who dream of starting a war with Ukraine in '14.
                  It is difficult to explain to the "hawk" that if we had brought in troops there, we would have put the entire population of Ukraine against us. And we would have lost the last who still supported us. Aggressors are not liked anywhere.
                  Just imagine that in 1991, or 1993, NATO forces came in to restore order.
                  What would be?
                  And why do you think that in Ukraine it would be different?
                  I don’t need an answer, I won’t even read
                  1. -1
                    9 February 2020 09: 43
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    NO INDUSTRY on the outskirts. Well, or almost.

                    specifically WHAT THE CHINESES WILL FIGHT ?!
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    May they never be there.

                    Well, the Baltic states are not in NATO
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    we would put against ourselves the entire population of Ukraine.

                    and now they love us there
  41. -2
    8 February 2020 22: 16
    but they don’t want to exchange for fat or to find Ukrainians in Russia who are in decent work with good pay and exchange for them
  42. +2
    8 February 2020 22: 28
    Interestingly, does this jackal have air conditioning?
  43. +3
    8 February 2020 22: 40
    Who would doubt that! For reference: not photoshop ...
  44. +2
    8 February 2020 23: 04
    In general, nothing else can be expected from these ghouls.
  45. +2
    8 February 2020 23: 56
    Well, what else can fans of murderers and rapists do?
  46. +1
    9 February 2020 00: 54
    They want to exchange the ashes of our hero for their Svidomo .... Well, and exchange the ashes for the remains of ... there are many in the land of Novorosia.
  47. +2
    9 February 2020 01: 03
    Sadovoy is the most insignificant and corrupt person in Lviv
  48. 0
    9 February 2020 05: 23
    Everything is clear with you.
    What exactly is clear? That he is watching TV "dependent" on the government, and you get information from the tyrnet "independent" of any government (where the stars and stripes often stick out)?
    I tried to convey to you that I do not care about Ukraine.
    There are enough of their clowns.
    Not convincingly tried. List, pliiz, the names of the clowns, I also want to fast.
    that phrase about what?
    See above.
    If people are so dumb that they can be brainwashed, why talk to them? And nationality does not matter. We have quilted jackets, in Ukraine - races.
    Whose will you be? Prancing quilted jacket? A cotton horse? You can not communicate with anyone at all. Nationality does not matter in the Russian Federation - a multinational country, after all. The neighbors are mononational.
  49. 0
    9 February 2020 05: 34
    Burn forever in ADU to this marishka! And after all, his sin falls on the whole people of Ukraine ...
  50. 0
    9 February 2020 06: 57
    The last brains are losing, soon there will be nothing to think at all.
  51. -1
    9 February 2020 08: 47
    And is this animal still offended by something?
  52. +1
    9 February 2020 08: 56
    I would like to note right away that everything that I will write now is my value judgment and purely personal subjective opinion.

    I would like to speak about the Ukrainians. Especially in the western part of this country. I am 32 years old and in my youth we had an apartment in the city of Kolomyia (Ivano-Frankivsk region). Mostly Jews lived in this city and I can’t remember any kind of prejudice against us as Russians (m0skals).

    But, as soon as I remember our stay in Lviv, I immediately remember stories about how fellow Ukrainians did not want to serve us in stores, citing ignorance of the Russian language, a la “I don’t understand you,” etc., and when my relatives switched to Ukrainian (after all, staying in Ukraine every summer left its mark and Ukrainian sticks quickly. Anyone who has been there will understand what I mean), they simply ignored and other unpleasant things about the attitude of the local population towards us.

    Why am I doing all this? And besides, the Ukrainians in its western part and during the Soviet period did not really like us (Russians). I would say it differently, but I wouldn’t want to offend those few, normal Ukrainians to whom all this does not apply.

    Moreover, look how it was imprinted in my head, that I still remember these moments. It was all so unpleasant. Having grown up, my love for Ukraine did not increase, and when I saw the Maidan and the beaten people with pots on their heads, I was not even surprised by all this, remembering their attitude towards life and people.

    So, friends, Ukraine has been lost for a long time and there is no point in hoping that anything will change.
  53. +1
    9 February 2020 10: 48
    Quote: Victor_B
    Quote: Balu
    there is some kind of murky complicated story, the sherms understood.

    Well, theoretically, they did not kill the Soviet intelligence officer Nikolai Kuznetsov, but the German officer Paul Siebert.
    But now they are proud of the murder Nikolay Kuznetsov!

    What are you sculpting, theorist? They were killing in the forest, Nikolai, with a small entourage, ran into them. Couldn't you distinguish Russian speech from German?
    Paul Siebert had no idea what to do there at that time and with that environment. They tracked it down and acted objectively. You will agree that you made a mistake in helping the Soviet partisans. Where are these from? Another boy Kolya from Urengoy.
  54. 0
    9 February 2020 14: 33
    What scoundrels! They even mock the ashes and the grave! They couldn’t do it alive, so they “captured” the dead one!
  55. 0
    9 February 2020 19: 45
    Descendants of Nazi collaborators came to power in Ukraine. Descendants of those who lost the war. Executioners and descendants of executioners of the multinational Ukrainian people. Why be surprised if they understand only one language (no, not the language) - the language of pain. For them, there are only two mutually exclusive states - causing pain and suffering to others and causing pain and suffering to them. The third does not exist in their flawed consciousness, in their flawed world. And as long as pain and suffering are caused by them, and not by them, until they are literally and figuratively broken over the knee, they will not listen to anyone, much less peace-loving Russia.
  56. 0
    9 February 2020 20: 27
    There were people whose memory is feared even after death! It is not for the “devils” to judge the Courage, Dignity and Honor of a Great Man!
  57. 0
    10 February 2020 00: 58
    if we start trading the remains of our exes, Russia will fall in my eyes! Terrorism or blackmail cannot be supported; if you give in once, they will sit on your neck!!! I already went through this under Gorbachev and Yeltsin!!!