It is proposed that the Constitution of the Russian Federation include an item on the right of a nation to reunite

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Fountain "Friendship of Peoples" (VDNH, Moscow)

One of the main discussions of the domestic political life of Russia is related to amendments to the Constitution of the country. After the message of the head of state to the Federal Assembly, only the lazy does not discuss possible amendments. The discussion also concerns the fact that the very structure of state power in the country can be reformatted.

On the Day TV channel, they also decided to discuss the issue of possible constitutional changes by inviting a person to the studio who joined the working group preparing the very changes. This is Bogdan Bezpalko - a member of the Council on Interethnic Relations under the President of the Russian Federation.



Bogdan Bezpalko made a proposal for a constitutional change of the following nature: in the Constitution of Russia, you need to write down a clause on the right of a nation to reunite.

This is a truly resonant proposal. And if it (even purely hypothetically) passed, then the 25 million Russians who live outside Russia (mainly in the countries of the former Soviet Union) would have a legally framed chance of living in one country.

The host of the air expressed his position on this issue, noting that the proposal was very significant, but the chances of it being passed were nil.

As Bogdan Bezpalko himself explains his proposal to amend the basic law of the country:
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    1. +5
      9 February 2020 06: 42
      “Bogdan Bezpalko made a proposal for a constitutional change of the following character: in the Constitution of Russia it is necessary to write down a clause on the nation’s right to reunification.” - But just to accept their peoples, like Germany did not work?
      1. +4
        9 February 2020 06: 55
        It would be better to create conditions for the nation to flourish and grow numerically.
        1. +1
          9 February 2020 06: 56
          Well, you are again essentially - and it is necessary according to the regulations))) ...
          1. +6
            9 February 2020 07: 00
            As I understand it, when the last Russians from the former republics survive, dreams of restoring territorial integrity within the USSR will sink into oblivion. At the same time, the statistics on population decline in Russia will only slightly improve for several years. And then - "northern fluffy animal" and "sleight of hand" in the calculations, or rather, reports.
            1. +6
              9 February 2020 07: 54
              Recently, a bunch of "non-Russians" from the former republics have received passports of the Russian Federation, and the statistics have not improved ...
          2. +2
            9 February 2020 10: 52
            Just NOT to the point. In essence - what kind of proposals,
            so that the nation flourishes and grows numerically.

            Especially in the second part. Europe type flourishes - all numerically destroyed. USA? Same. But to get up and say - I want - it is possible. It is essentially yes
        2. -2
          9 February 2020 08: 57
          Quote: lexus
          It would be better to create conditions for the nation to flourish and grow numerically.

          it would be better if they prescribed that the minimum pension cannot be less than the minimum wage. One friend of my mother has 5 thousand pensions, I did not believe it, but it is.
          1. -1
            9 February 2020 09: 16
            Type in the search engine "minimum social pension", there is no less than 8 thousand and more, so no need to lie, and if they are calculating for debts, then this is another matter.
            1. +4
              9 February 2020 10: 07
              Quote: Ros 56
              Type in the search engine "minimum social pension", there is no less than 8 thousand and more, so no need to lie, and if they are calculating for debts, then this is another matter.

              Wow! As many as 8 thousand! also with more than! fellow I’m sorry, how much do you pay per month for an apartment? crying
              1. -1
                9 February 2020 10: 12
                You don’t talk about teeth, you wrote about 5 thousand, they poked you with your nose, and we’ll finish there.
                1. 0
                  9 February 2020 10: 14
                  Quote: Ros 56
                  You don’t talk about teeth, you wrote about 5 thousand, they poked you with your nose, and we’ll finish there.

                  Do not set off. sad This is not an answer. Yes
            2. +9
              9 February 2020 10: 10
              Quote: Ros 56
              so no need to lie

              Type in the search engine "old-age pension". Its size as of 01.012020 is 5686 rubles.
              1. +5
                9 February 2020 10: 12
                Here is a link to the FIU, where the amount of the Old Age Pension is indicated
                http://www.pfrf.ru/grazdanam/pensionres/Fixed_payment_amount/
                1. +1
                  9 February 2020 10: 21
                  This is the basic fixed part. Calm down, almost no one gets it, even if it has not worked for a single day.
            3. +1
              9 February 2020 12: 07
              Quote: Ros 56
              Type in a search engine "minimum social pension",

              Search for "disability pensions".
          2. -4
            9 February 2020 10: 15
            Let your friend not lie. By the way, did his mother work? Or lounged on a dependent?
            1. +6
              9 February 2020 10: 16
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Let your friend not lie. By the way, did his mother work? Or lounged on a dependent?

              She worked, raised her son alone. Region-Bashkiria. Now it continues to work.
              1. -4
                9 February 2020 11: 58
                Quote: Balu
                Worked

                Was the salary official or in envelopes?
                1. 0
                  9 February 2020 12: 59
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Quote: Balu
                  Worked

                  Was the salary official or in envelopes?

                  I didn’t ask, just take my point. In our media there was an infa that last year 46% of men aged did not live to be 65 years old. I got lucky. I managed to draw up the length of service, although I could have received earlier. I continue to work, although getting to work without a car is a problem, even with a wand.
            2. +3
              9 February 2020 12: 09
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Let your friend not lie.

              My neighbor received less than five in disability.
        3. -1
          9 February 2020 09: 47
          Quote: lexus
          It would be better to create conditions for the nation to flourish and grow numerically.

          So that one nation flourishes or all 190? belay
        4. +1
          9 February 2020 10: 03
          the nation flourished and grew numerically
          Judging by the downsides to you. there are many who are opposed to the nation flourishing and growing.
    2. +12
      9 February 2020 06: 46
      on the right of a nation to reunite
      It would be better, IMHO, not to formulate something like this: the Russian Federation, as the successor of the USSR, does not recognize the provisions of the Belovezhsky collusion as contradicting the Constitution of the USSR that was in force at that time. Oh, what opportunities would open up !!! Only stinks around the world would rise too, of course)))
      1. -7
        9 February 2020 06: 59
        Quote: Dalny V
        then something like this: the Russian Federation, as the successor of the USSR, does not recognize the provisions of the Bialowieza conspiracy as contradicting the Constitution of the USSR that was in force at that time. Oh, what opportunities would open up !!

        Yes, so many opportunities would open up and, first of all, be sent to hell by the closest neighbors.
        1. DPN
          +2
          9 February 2020 11: 07
          So the neighbors immediately sent to the horseradish, it’s unlikely that some may change their minds.
      2. +4
        9 February 2020 07: 02
        Now the "breadwinners" will wake up and vividly explain that everyone except them is freeloaders. And precisely because of this, the pension is small.
        1. +6
          9 February 2020 17: 23
          Quote: lexus
          Now the "breadwinners" will wake up and vividly explain that everyone except them is freeloaders.

          In Russia, more than half of the population receives an average pension after working for 30 years and a little more than 30 years. It turns out, by their standards, more than half of the inhabitants of Russia are "freeloaders" ... They truly say "A state in which a DJ on the radio receives 100 rubles a month and a doctor 000 is doomed to extinction. But beautifully - with chanson and news . "
          For reference: the average pension is 14151 rubles, for disabled people - 8738 rubles, after the loss of the breadwinner - 8869 rubles.
    3. +1
      9 February 2020 06: 56
      This is a truly resonant proposal. And if it (even purely hypothetically) passed, then the 25 million Russians who live outside Russia (mainly in the countries of the former Soviet Union) would have a legally framed chance of living in one country.

      This, as I understand it, does not mean that any Russian has the right to return to Russia and obtain citizenship on the spot, it means like reuniting with the territory in which you live.
      Interesting offer.
      Is it interesting relevant to the nations and nationalities living inside Russia?
      What is the minimum qualification for combining?
      Region, district, city, street, village, separate apartment, room in a communal apartment?
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 07: 17
        The same thoughts came to me, a lot of peoples live directly on the borders of Russia, there is no way to create conditions good for returning, they are making some kind of not smart amendments.
      2. +6
        9 February 2020 09: 09
        Are you fooling around Shura? We do not need territories; we have enough of our own. You do not mind the resettlement of Jews in Israel from all over the world? Do they return with territories too?
        Quote: atalef
        Is it interesting relevant to the nations and nationalities living inside Russia?
        What is the problem? If a person belongs to any of the ethnic groups historically living in Russia, welcome home. The question is not posed in such a way that it only concerns Russians. Do not confuse the concept of nationality and nation. All ethnic groups and nationalities form a nation. The proposal for inclusion in the Constitution is formulated about the right of the nation... I'm interested in something else - Why are you "friends of Russia" so worried about the possibility of Russian resettlement?
        1. kin
          +1
          9 February 2020 09: 35
          You just formulated the question - what is the problem? The return system itself is the biggest problem. I will not go into details, but these are seven circles of hell.
          1. +1
            9 February 2020 10: 23
            Quote: kin
            You just formulated the question - what is the problem? The return system itself is the biggest problem. I will not go into details, but these are seven circles of hell.

            I believe that the consolidation of this provision in the Constitution is precisely aimed at facilitating this procedure. What's wrong?
        2. 0
          9 February 2020 10: 16
          Territories of their own
          And what are their own? Tomorrow the Urals will come up with a nation, grow up skakuaz there and all this is not Russia. If you read the story at least a thousand years, it turns out. as the Baltic states, with the so-called Ukraine, the Caucasus, and there are questions about Central Asia.
          And then the Russian Empire-Soviet Union is one country, but for some reason the current stub is called Russia, although such a person is called an invalid.
          By the way, tomorrow the Chinese will say that they are Siberians, and you say the same, we don’t need someone else?
          Only one thing is not clear, if the Kremlin refused New Russia and Little Russia, then why spread rot to Belarus?
          1. 0
            9 February 2020 10: 47
            Quote: Gardamir
            Territories of their own
            And what are their own? Tomorrow the Urals will come up with a nation, grow up skakuaz there and all this is not Russia. If you read the story at least a thousand years, it turns out. as the Baltic states, with the so-called Ukraine, the Caucasus, and there are questions about Central Asia.
            By the way, tomorrow the Chinese will say that they are Siberians, and you say the same, we don’t need someone else?
            Only one thing is not clear, if the Kremlin refused New Russia and Little Russia, then why spread rot to Belarus?
            Horses, people and volleys of thousands of guns mixed in a heap ... (Borodino). Why are these "What? And if?" You can finish the story to Adam and Eve and come to the conclusion that we are all from the same root "brothers and sisters", and therefore - "down with the border." Let's think within the framework of the existing realities and specifically what is proposed. Specifically on the topic, it is proposed - "Introduce a clause on the nation's right to reunification into the Constitution." This is the Constitution of Russia. Ukraine and Belarus have their own constitutions. As for Novorossiya and Little Russia, we could not give up what had not yet become ours, and the process itself is in the process. Who spreads rot on Belarus? She was asked to play fair and according to clear rules. Why should a Russian bear financial losses in favor of a Belarusian, while a Belarusian should not owe anything to a Russian? You will not go to your neighbors to distribute your salary just because they are neighbors.
            Quote: Gardamir
            And then the Russian Empire-Soviet Union is one country, but the current stub is for some reason called Russia, although such a person is called an invalid.
            A stub, this is your perception, and Russia is the basis on which both the Empire and the Soviet Union rested. In the history of Russia, there were worse times that threatened with the loss of statehood and were associated with the loss of land, but everything returned to normal and grew land.
            "Russia doesn’t understand,
            Yard common not to measure
            She has a special place,
            You can only believe in Russia "....
          2. -2
            9 February 2020 11: 41
            Quote: Gardamir

            And then the Russian Empire-Soviet Union is one country, but for some reason the current stub is called Russia, although such a person is called an invalid.

            What kind of idiom is it? And what should the country be called? Kyrgyzstan?
            1. -4
              9 February 2020 11: 57
              Moscow presidency. The Moscow principality / kingdom was Russia, but not the only one.
        3. 0
          9 February 2020 11: 12
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          You do not mind the resettlement of Jews in Israel from all over the world?

          Actually, I’m only for what would be primarily Russian (although in general the question is why), but let's say representatives of all nations and nationalities with autonomous entities in Russia had the right to come to Russia and immediately obtain citizenship.
          Like we have.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          If a person belongs to any of the ethnic groups historically living in Russia, welcome home

          here I am for that.
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Why are you "friends of Russia" so concerned about the possibility of Russian resettlement?

          why worried, I personally really support.
          And I think this is correct, many countries of the world have a similar repatriation policy.
          1. +1
            9 February 2020 11: 16
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            You do not mind the resettlement of Jews in Israel from all over the world?

            Actually, I’m only for what would be primarily Russian (although in general the question is why), but let's say representatives of all nations and nationalities with autonomous entities in Russia had the right to come to Russia and immediately obtain citizenship.
            Like we have.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            If a person belongs to any of the ethnic groups historically living in Russia, welcome home

            here I am for that.
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Why are you "friends of Russia" so concerned about the possibility of Russian resettlement?

            why worried, I personally really support.
            And I think this is correct, many countries of the world have a similar repatriation policy.

            Now your thought is extremely clear and does not cause contradictions. For consensus drinks
      3. -4
        9 February 2020 11: 20
        Perhaps you can stop at the area. But why should nations living as part of the Belarusian Republican Social Democratic Republic return to it?
    4. -5
      9 February 2020 07: 38
      Amendments ride !!! vote Ha Platoshkina))))) smile
    5. +9
      9 February 2020 07: 44
      Awesome offer. That is, now the inhabitants of Tuva and Buryatia will be able to demand reunion with Mongolia, Karelia can finally join Finland, and half of Dagestan to become part of Azerbaijan. Well, Rostov will join the heap to join Ukraine (many relatives live there), and Smolensk to Belarus. And all this is in full accordance with the constitution of the Russian Federation.
      For those who, through a misunderstanding, think that such changes can give legitimacy for the "annexation" of the territories of other countries: you equip your territory so that the Russians will move to you instead of looking at neighboring lands.
      1. +3
        9 February 2020 07: 58
        oh yes hare with advice on what to do and how. who knows what offers. Is it necessary to react to every stupidity as a reality?
        1. +2
          9 February 2020 09: 15
          Unfortunately, these nonsense often find wide support that in the power that in the people and sometimes turn into real actions.
      2. +2
        9 February 2020 09: 20
        Quote: Zeev Zeev
        Awesome offer. That is, now the inhabitants of Tuva and Buryatia will be able to demand reunion with Mongolia, Karelia can finally join Finland, and half of Dagestan to become part of Azerbaijan. Well, Rostov will join the heap to join Ukraine (many relatives live there), and Smolensk to Belarus. And all this is in full accordance with the constitution of the Russian Federation.
        For those who, through a misunderstanding, think that such changes can give legitimacy for the "annexation" of the territories of other countries: you equip your territory so that the Russians will move to you instead of looking at neighboring lands.

        In addition to desire, you must have autonomy rights. No area listed by you has such rights.
        1. +2
          9 February 2020 09: 44
          Buryatia, Karelia and Tuva are autonomous republics. Dagestan too. With symbols, the study of native languages, local authorities, the constitution.
          1. +1
            9 February 2020 09: 52
            Right, you're right. hi
            Well then, it is not clear why they, in fact, are entitled to reunion. If they have everything of their own (constitution, etc., etc.). They are already entitled to it. Only they understand that it only seems like an awesome option to leave the structure and live on oil, like Tatarstan, but only for them will immediately close other doors that were previously open.
      3. -1
        9 February 2020 11: 35
        And this principle does not apply to "disconnection"? Why ... the SSR could be separated, but the ASSR was not from them? It is about rectifying an obvious crime committed in 1991.
        The right of nations to self-determination defeats the right to territorial integrity when its other life rights begin to be rudely violated.
        True, in this case, of course, nothing will remain of Israel.
        1. +1
          9 February 2020 11: 49
          I'll tell you one fun fact. The day after the publication of Trump's plan to create a "Plasticine State" in populated areas where Arabs with Israeli citizenship live, demonstrations were held against the "deal of the century." The reason for the rallies was the clause on the transfer of cities and villages with the Arab population to the "Plasticine". The Arabs "oppressed by the Zionists" do not want to live under Arab rule.
    6. +4
      9 February 2020 08: 12
      He stole the idea of ​​the dude from the political scientist Mikheev, only changing the initial idea - Mikheev sounded in one of the radio broadcasts - "the right of Russians to reunite."
    7. -1
      9 February 2020 08: 37
      It is proposed that the Constitution of the Russian Federation include an item on the right of a nation to reunite

      Really the fallen rating of the authorities did not let some understand that any initiative coming from the "Edra" would be perceived negatively?
      Remember the Russians? Tell this to those who have not yet left the former Western Union republics. Tell us how they are waiting for the newly created 25 highly skilled jobs in Russia, how Russian enterprises are idle due to a lack of labor; tell me what new homes for 000-000% mortgages "knocking doors" in anticipation of settlement; inform those who wish about the high level of SMS insurance medicine; Announce all the charms of the Unified State Examination-education and pre-school education; trumpet about boarding houses for the elderly and basement hospices ...
      The Constitution is not a collection of Russian folk tales! And to edit it with a “package of articles” is the same as frying an omelet on a “diesel fuel”.
      For 20 years they turned a blind eye to social policy, to solving social problems, but then they decided to catch up for the quarter ... As you know, there is a rush in three cases (when catching fleas, diarrhea and adultery with someone else's wife) ... apparently, here is the "second" ...
      hi
    8. +2
      9 February 2020 08: 40
      Let’s write everything in a poor Constitution so that it consists of 800 volumes and the articles contradict each other, so that even professional lawyers cannot understand it, and then, with a clear conscience, we will forget about it.
      1. +5
        9 February 2020 09: 49
        Quote: arlekin
        and then with a clear conscience we forget about it.

        We infrequently remember her already.
    9. -1
      9 February 2020 09: 32
      In my opinion, a very necessary and timely amendment.
    10. 0
      9 February 2020 09: 34
      Birobidzhan ... Jews ... Yes, no ... It can not be .... I do not believe it.
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      1. +3
        9 February 2020 09: 48
        On the contrary, the Aleuts will reunite Alaska. Who said that this right should work only in one direction?
        1. -2
          9 February 2020 10: 22
          only one way?
          And that is true. Both those and others will leave their countries and create an independent Aleutia.
      2. 0
        9 February 2020 11: 38
        There are nations and there are nationalities (ethnic groups). Not every ethnic group reaches the stage of a nation.
    12. +3
      9 February 2020 10: 57
      Bogdan Bezpalko made a proposal for a constitutional change of the following nature: in the Constitution of Russia, you need to write down a clause on the right of a nation to reunite

      I feel this amendment will be used by all nations, except the Russian.
      Circassians from Turkey, Asians from the Central Asian republics and the peoples of the Caucasus, will be trampled for reunion with the Tozhero-Russians

      I think it is necessary to introduce into the Constitution the right of the Russian people to revolt.
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    13. 0
      9 February 2020 11: 40
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      Unfortunately, these nonsense often find wide support that in the power that in the people and sometimes turn into real actions.

      That's it: this is exactly what happened in 1991.
    14. kin
      +1
      9 February 2020 13: 10
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Quote: kin
      You just formulated the question - what is the problem? The return system itself is the biggest problem. I will not go into details, but these are seven circles of hell.

      I believe that the consolidation of this provision in the Constitution is precisely aimed at facilitating this procedure. What's wrong?

      Have you watched the video? This is ordinary reasoning. No more. What is the position? When will it be fixed?
      There are a lot of such conversations, videos, articles. Discussions have been going on for many years, but things are still there. Now they just started to mention the Constitution. There are even recommendations on the Security Council to the President from 2014 on this subject, but there are still no changes. About the Relocation Program, you can search for feedback yourself. Thousands of compatriots are repelled by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other responsible offices for no reason.
      1. -1
        9 February 2020 15: 11
        Quote: kin
        Have you watched the video? This is ordinary reasoning. No more. What is the position? When will it be fixed?

        Nobody even says that this amendment has already taken place. There are discussions on the topic - "What happens if.. "
        So, if This amendment will be enshrined in the Constitution, then it will facilitate the simplification of the resettlement procedure, because it will become more difficult to "kick compatriots" because it will contradict the Constitution. Everything that is happening today in terms of migrants rests on the old rails, and no one argues with this.
        One can argue only in the question - "Will the amendment be fixed, or not," but something suggests that this amendment will be promoted.
    15. -1
      9 February 2020 13: 43
      It is proposed that the Constitution of the Russian Federation include an item on the right of a nation to reunite

      Will not the Chinese, who have filled the Far East, take advantage of this point to reunite with the "mainland", taking away post-Siberia from us?

    16. 0
      10 February 2020 09: 04
      Correct and reasonable amendment!
    17. 0
      11 February 2020 01: 13
      Bogdan Bezpalko made a proposal for a constitutional change of the following nature: in the Constitution of Russia, you need to write down a clause on the right of a nation to reunite.

      Yes, do not touch national issues, otherwise we will again get another conflict on a national basis.
      Do not wake famously while sleeping quietly.
    18. 0
      12 February 2020 14: 21
      Time to throw stones, time to collect stones. In history, 30 years is a tiny period. In human life, it’s already a lot. Destruction is always easier than building. Let's see how the law will work to simplify citizenship. It will be a litmus paper, how agile we are.

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