“Prices are determined by market rules”: some results of the Russian-Belarusian negotiations on oil and gas

“Prices are determined by market rules”: some results of the Russian-Belarusian negotiations on oil and gas

After many round negotiations between the Russian and Belarusian delegations, agreements were reached on the supply of oil and gas to Russia from Belarus. Some results are reported.


The Russian delegation noted that for Belarus, the supply situation will be maintained according to the parameters of 2019. At the same time, it is emphasized that the agreements apply only to the current year.

From the meeting release:

Energy prices for the Republic of Belarus are determined by market rules.

The deputy head of the presidential administration Dmitry Kozak noted that the oil market in Russia and Belarus is the same:

In the Belarusian market, Russian oil is sold under the same conditions as in the Russian market. There are no differences when selling. We cannot change prices today. You are well aware that prices are today regulated by the market. For our part, we will assist in ensuring that the Belarusian market receives the necessary volumes of oil.

The Belarusian media speak extremely carefully about the outcome of the negotiations in Krasnaya Polyana. Alexander Lukashenko himself has not yet commented on the results of negotiations with Vladimir Putin and the Russian delegation.

At the same time, experts in Russia note that earlier statements by Belarusian representatives about their readiness to look for alternative suppliers, about energy supplies from Norway and the USA were a “game to raise rates."
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  1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 07: 28 New
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    For a long time no one remembered the invisible hand of the market.
    1. rich 8 February 2020 08: 57 New
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      The Russian delegation noted that for Belarus, the supply situation will be maintained according to the parameters of 2019. At the same time, it is emphasized that the agreements apply only to the current year

      The results of many hours of negotiations in a nutshell: they all left as they were. yes
      1. Mountain shooter 8 February 2020 09: 39 New
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        Quote: Rich
        The results of many hours of negotiations in a nutshell: they all left as they were.

        It squeezed the GDP of the "director of the state farm" ... As expected. All these foolish blasts, such as buying oil at world prices and blocking the Druzhba oil pipeline, are a weak attempt to bargain ... After all, the gardener is tired of his tantrums ...
        1. maxim947 8 February 2020 10: 57 New
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          They arranged a show, everything, in principle, was predetermined by the fact that they would "agree".
          IMHO - the president should not have the right to set prices.
          1. 210ox 8 February 2020 12: 11 New
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            But they raised the price for transit.
            1. Genry 8 February 2020 14: 00 New
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              Quote: 210ox
              But they raised the price for transit.

              1. old friend 8 February 2020 21: 52 New
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                About language - explicit fever delirium. About changing the Constitution - even in our country, IMHO, this is unrealistic to shove. Do not confuse Belarus with the countries of Central Asia.
          2. Lelek 8 February 2020 17: 58 New
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            Quote: maxim947
            IMHO - the president should not have the right to set prices.

            hi
            But Putin did not change the price. LAS wanted this, but a bummer.
            1. maxim947 8 February 2020 18: 59 New
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              Very well if so, it is at least fair.
              The media is trying the opposite.
              Better to wait for official statements. hi
        2. SAG
          SAG 8 February 2020 22: 05 New
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          It squeezed the GDP of the "director of the state farm" ... As expected. All these foolish blasts, such as buying oil at world prices and blocking the Druzhba oil pipeline, are a weak attempt to bargain ... After all, the gardener is tired of his tantrums ...

          Very stupid and short-sighted behavior of “father’s”. In politics, this is called face loss, sort of.
    2. Major Yurik 8 February 2020 11: 34 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      For a long time no one remembered the invisible hand of the market.

      And those who constantly remembered her have been eating oatmeal in London for a long time! yes
      1. Yehudi Menuhin 8 February 2020 11: 47 New
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        Not a bad diet. Some officials gobbled up for less healthy food
        1. 210ox 8 February 2020 12: 12 New
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          And some even with a scarf messed up completely.
          1. Romka 8 February 2020 12: 28 New
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            By the way, at the very beginning of GDP, the AHL proposed a “gruel on water” - a sort of hint. wink
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    1. Retvizan 8 8 February 2020 07: 48 New
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      ... "will outbid the adversaries" ...
      Something seems like they haven’t offered anything worthy to the Old Man, since after Pence’s visit, he went to Putin to negotiate.
      Thank God so far there is "enough mind" for "cookies are not conducted"!))
      1. Astra wild 8 February 2020 08: 01 New
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        A.G. probably wants cookies, but I don’t want to go to Rostov. Being a chewing giver is not enough good, and A. G. must understand this.
      2. Cowbra 8 February 2020 08: 14 New
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        That's it ... It seems Old Man, after listening to Pence, said - "You have nothing. You are a starving man!" Or from another film - "And your life will not cost a broken Pence" wink In the original - a cent.
      3. maxxavto 8 February 2020 09: 16 New
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        Like Pompeo went? no ?
        1. Nyrobsky 8 February 2020 10: 37 New
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          Quote: maxxavto
          Like Pompeo went? no ?

          No difference. Look at the physiognomy - Pompeo! Listen to what he says - Pence! They spar on one piece of paper. yes
          1. Lipchanin 8 February 2020 11: 58 New
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            Quote: Nyrobsky
            They spar one piece of paper

            One moss for two? laughing
        2. Retvizan 8 8 February 2020 11: 15 New
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          Sorry, everything is correct - Pompeo, of course he meant it.)))
      4. Snake 8 February 2020 10: 45 New
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        Quote: Retvizan 8
        ... "will outbid the adversaries" ...
        Something seems like they haven’t offered anything worthy to the Old Man, since after Pence’s visit, he went to Putin to negotiate.
        Thank God so far there is "enough mind" for "cookies are not conducted"!))

        Well, there are always the same proposals: there is more freedom to all shit, forget about the state and in general you have to go to the side of the Hague tribunal like Milosevic.
      5. stasimar 8 February 2020 14: 29 New
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        He did not sell himself to the "adversaries" in the 90s. Now why would he. While your Boris surrendered with giblets.
    2. SNEAKY 8 February 2020 08: 12 New
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      lol Oh, what kind of nationalists are there in Minsk? One and a half cripples in the “ploshchchi” (Maidan in Belarusian) does not count. About the opposition, it’s better not to remember any kind of force. To put together, toss the fake Polish zloty, but to bite each other's limbs off. lol
      1. orionvitt 8 February 2020 08: 41 New
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        Quote: SNEAKY
        Oh, what nationalists are there in Minsk? One and a half cripples on the "ploshchchi" (Belarusian Maidan) does not count

        The same thing they used to say about Ukraine. They say the same thing now. Like what kind of nationalists are there, there are only 2% of them, do not pay attention. The result is perfectly visible.
        1. SNEAKY 8 February 2020 08: 53 New
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          hi Sorry of course, but you are deeply mistaken. I do not defend my stubborn fellow countrymen, but Belarusians and Ukrainians in terms of booze in squares for political reasons are completely different from the word. Belarus should personally offend the authorities so that they stand up for their family and not having read a telegram , about the sweet life in the EU. Moreover, unlike Belarusians, Ukrainians cultivated hatred of Russia for many decades.
          Belarusians are terribly patient, they will wait until the authorities devour themselves from greed, when there will be nothing.
          1. orionvitt 8 February 2020 09: 01 New
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            Quote: SNEAKY
            Belarusians and Ukrainians in terms of buza in squares for political reasons are completely different from the word

            Revolutions and coups do not people, but small groups of active (passionate) personalities. People usually do not ask, they hide behind them. The whole business rests on financing, the formation of public opinion (brainwashing) and the venality of the authorities. On the first two points, the "sworn partners" do not skimp. As for the authorities, are they ready to sacrifice the country and the people, for the sake of personal gain, or find the strength in themselves, to firmly resist the attempts to destroy the country.
            1. SNEAKY 8 February 2020 09: 26 New
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              Well, it’s difficult to argue with this, of course, in view of even a cursory tour of World History.
              I really don’t even count how many times the pro-Western forces wanted to stir Belarusians into “great” affairs and “freedom.” I myself voted in 2010 for the most pro-Western politician, and not because he liked the little flags with asterisks, but simply for an adequate alternative to the current .
    3. Alex Nevs 8 February 2020 09: 12 New
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      Well Toda DOWNLOAD and lose sovereignty. Ukrograbli to the rescue.
    4. Hagalaz 8 February 2020 10: 13 New
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      Practice has shown that handouts and discounts are not resolving the issue of loyalty. Ukraine has taken that.
    5. Arkon 8 February 2020 11: 29 New
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      Quote: Chieftain
      nothing in vova so with olekhsandr hrikhoryevich


      The President of Russia is called Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. I recommend to remember this.
      1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 34 New
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        And where such agility? :-)
      2. dauria 8 February 2020 13: 42 New
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        The President of Russia is called Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. I recommend to remember this.


        - Sit down, Masha
        - Thank you, Vova
        Remember this live broadcast? So it's okay ...

  3. rocket757 8 February 2020 07: 32 New
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    How to warm, by mutual agreement .....
    It will just be interesting to see who and how will fluff the tail now ???
  4. Tank jacket 8 February 2020 07: 35 New
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    Trump’s impeachment failed, First Mike Pompeo, and now Vladimir Putin explained to Butke that the “liberal model has outlived itself” (c) It’s time to build in, keep up with the last car of the Russian world. Otherwise ....
    1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 07: 45 New
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      Actually, the liberal is just Vladimir Vladimirovich, he is proud and has repeatedly stated this .. Moreover, all his reforms are liberal.
      1. Piramidon 8 February 2020 09: 09 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Actually, the liberal is just Vladimir Vladimirovich, he is proud and has repeatedly stated this .. Moreover, all his reforms are liberal.

        Actually, this is in our time and in our country the word "liberal" has become a curse and an insult. But in fact -
        Liberalism - This is a political ideology that recognizes freedom and human rights as the main values. The main of these rights is to freely dispose of yourself and your property. In short, liberalism is an "ideology of freedom." The word itself comes from the Latin liber - "free".
        Along with conservatism and radicalism, liberalism is considered one of the main political ideologies of our time. Unlike conservatives, liberals advocate the transformation of society through reforms, and the reduction of the role of the state in society. Unlike radicals, they do not support rapid revolutionary changes, considering them dangerous and harmful.
        1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 13: 02 New
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          Actually, I agree with you about both swearing and liberalism as an ideology. But I responded to the commentary where liberal Putin teaches Lukashenko that the liberal idea has outlived itself. Absurd.
      2. AU Ivanov. 8 February 2020 11: 55 New
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        Conservative Putin, a mossy conservative. And his reforms are conservative: they are not aimed at real changes, but at maintaining the status quo.
        1. Piramidon 8 February 2020 13: 21 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Conservative Putin, a mossy conservative.

          You can’t so clearly assess Putin. He is, in some ways, a conservative, in some ways a liberal, and in some ways a reformer. As they say - "Three-in-one."
      3. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 13: 04 New
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        Quote: Gardamir
        all his reforms are liberal

        You just don’t know the words of others ... baby, we are of the same age, why are we so different laughing
    2. Anatole Klim 8 February 2020 07: 52 New
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      Quote: Tank jacket
      It's time to build in, keep up with the last car of the Russian world. Otherwise ....

      We agreed on gas on last year’s terms for $ 127 per 1 thousand cubic meters, which is basically true, the gas price in Europe is falling, the winter is warm, the storage facilities are full, and it would be wrong to tear three skins. As for oil deliveries, it’s also clear that the freebie ends, if you want gas and oil at Smolensk region’s prices, sign roadmaps to deepen the integration of Russia and Belarus, and there’s a single legislation, a single currency, supranational authorities, not a word about them, which means Rygorych ready for this, the throne above all.
      In short, we ate porridge, drank mash, played hockey .... And then life goes on, we will watch.
      1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 08: 19 New
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        The cards were signed long ago, only the Russian bourgeoisie made a tax maneuver, throw Lukashenko overboard.
        1. carstorm 11 8 February 2020 08: 27 New
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          in general, the tax maneuver is the business of the state and not its individuals. The tax maneuver in the oil industry triggers the abolition of export duties on oil and oil products. In parallel with the beginning of this year, an increase in the severance tax on oil and associated petroleum gas production started, which will last until 2021. Such measures were explained in the State Duma by the desire “to put things in order in the system of providing various kinds of benefits and preferences.” In addition, the government expects to increase revenues to the federal budget, as well as to create a more efficient system of tax benefits and subsidies. Ultimately, with the help of the oil maneuver Russia plans to achieve more profitable exports, as well as partially get rid of the dependence of oil prices on the global market. Or if in simple words this is our internal affair for our own good as a country. Lukashenko is also far from being aware of this decision even before 19. Instead of resolving issues of state integration, I waited for the last moment and went to blackmail. he wasn’t thrown out; he squeezed himself out
          1. Mordvin 3 8 February 2020 14: 15 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            Ultimately, with the help of the oil maneuver, Russia plans to achieve more profitable exports, as well as partially get rid of the dependence of oil prices on the global market.

            Hang even more noodles on your ears.
            1. carstorm 11 8 February 2020 14: 29 New
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              as you wish) it is for those who understand at least something in these words.
          2. Pissarro 8 February 2020 20: 53 New
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            Before the tax maneuver, oil for the domestic market was cheaper. The exporter paid the duty upon its export. Now pays for mining. Lukashenko has nothing to do with it, in my opinion it wasn’t deprived of bonuses, they equated us with foreign consumers.
        2. Anatole Klim 8 February 2020 08: 33 New
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          Quote: Gardamir
          The cards are long signed

          The road maps were not signed, there were 31 in total, some of them were agreed, but the Belarusian side refused to coordinate them according to tax legislation, single currency, and supranational authorities. If you are talking about the Union Treaty, then it was fulfilled by 10%, and because of this, roadmaps arose to deepen integration. And Lukashenko will win again in the upcoming Belarusian elections, the opposition is weak there, the Old Man will not allow cookies, the Belarusian stability is shorter.
      2. maxxavto 8 February 2020 09: 20 New
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        agreed for a year, most likely Luke was given homework - he won’t complete in a year the nuts are tightened again
      3. Stepan80 8 February 2020 12: 12 New
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        Single currency and where will the printing press be? Though he wrappers, however, he prints his own!
  5. Retvizan 8 8 February 2020 07: 37 New
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    ... "agreements were reached on the supply of oil and gas to Russia from Belarus" ...
    Oh how! Why, bourgeois oil (Norwegian or promised American) of the “wrong system” turned out to be?)))
    1. Ravil_Asnafovich 8 February 2020 07: 49 New
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      So for sure, (the Norwegian or the promised American) of the “wrong system” turned out to be?))) For that you need to immediately give green wrappers, and for ours you can pull Faberge
    2. Lipchanin 8 February 2020 07: 53 New
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      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Why, bourgeois oil (Norwegian or promised American) of the “wrong system” turned out to be?)))

      Not that fat lol
    3. Gardamir 8 February 2020 08: 16 New
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      Actually, in Russia, too, the bourgeoisie.
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        1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 14 New
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          Wrong not your
  6. Pastor 8 February 2020 07: 47 New
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    Old Man give time to leave beautifully. So I think that all tax maneuvers with oil, albeit to the detriment of themselves, have long-term plans to omit Belarus financially and, therefore, I will make it even more dependent. Someday they will not stand and join the Russian Federation. And everything else is ostentatious. Lukashenko, as a woman of lowered social responsibility, will now seek someone to sell herself for more. But hardly Pompeo could promise something specific. So Sochi. Then, during the myron transfer of power, a house in Vitebsk, or during non-peaceful transfer to Rostov.
    1. Stepan80 8 February 2020 12: 15 New
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      Why DPR Nigeria Congo Venezuela Cuba did not join the Russian Federation ???? Yes, because it’s better to eat the bark, but the throne is better than the lackey for errands ...... maybe if Russia itself asks for Belarus
  7. askort154 8 February 2020 07: 52 New
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    A conference with reporters was not held, but it was evident from Luke's face that he had failed completely in his blackmail of Russia. Even kissing with Pompeo did not help, but on the contrary - "burped". yes
    1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 38 New
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      What is the fiasco? :-)
      1. askort154 8 February 2020 12: 15 New
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        What is the fiasco?

        His next blackmail against Russia did not pass!
        He left - "salt is not slurping." I did not receive gas at Smolensk prices.
        Oil will buy at commercial prices!
        And this is only for one year (until January 2020), and not for 5-10 years.
        And then Russia will see where Luka the blackmailer will turn his nose. His West called - "the last dictator in Europe" (he is flattered) and he actually gave vent to his ambitions. He wants to show himself as such, in a circle where it is permissible (especially in his own country) A sort of dwarf "Stalin" in Belarus, not realizing that it looks from the side, to put it mildly, like a fake game to the public. Economists know why Belarus’s Lukashenka’s economy is thriving. More developed Poland, still sits on EU subsidies (10 euro lard, annually). Ukraine broke away from Russia, and where is it now ?! Not with Russia, and not with the EU - but in a deep swamp. Belarus and Luka the blackmailer will drag in there if he breaks away from Russia. yes hi
  8. don-1500 8 February 2020 08: 02 New
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    That's what life-giving hockey does
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 8 February 2020 08: 08 New
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      At least somewhere, Lukashenko played the first number.
  9. aybolyt678 8 February 2020 08: 07 New
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    "You give an independent Russian-Belarusian market, free of American-London-Cyprus and Russian Oligarch !!!"
  10. Gardamir 8 February 2020 08: 21 New
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    Gentlemen are cooked and how much do they pay you? Ready to sell!
    1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 31 New
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      Well, it’s not worth it. Although they live here, they do not play a special role in shaping opinions, because the ears of the "party line" stick out a mile away. And oh, how fun it is to see aerobatics in the air
      1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 13: 45 New
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        Interestingly, judging by how they react instantly, they have computers nearby.
    2. Paranoid50 8 February 2020 15: 58 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      Ready to sell!

      Yes, no one doubted. yes laughing
      1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 17: 10 New
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        Yes no one doubted
        You’ve already sold out, but don’t think that I agree to be a simple buttonkick like you.
  11. Lamata 8 February 2020 08: 22 New
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    Looks like the old man, Plompeo did not particularly believe it, oil supply is not to distribute cookies on the Maidan.
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    for Belarus, the supply situation will be maintained according to the parameters of 2019. At the same time, it is emphasized that the agreements apply only to the current year.

    In the Belarusian market, Russian oil is sold under the same conditions as in the Russian market. There are no differences when selling.

    Old Man did push concessions. At least for a year, but sold. It is understandable, he has elections in the summer, he needs this land. But, judging by his gloomy physiognomy, he had to promise something in the future for this. Although he is the master of his word, he wanted to give, he wanted to take it back ...
    1. bar
      bar 8 February 2020 09: 48 New
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      I confess, the slurred article was misleading. Actually words
      for Belarus, the supply situation will be maintained according to the parameters of 2019.
      only apply to gas supplies.
      Oil deliveries from Russia to Belarus will be made by companies at a market price; the Russian authorities will not interfere in the process of generating its value

      Taki bent father.
      PS
      More thoroughly necessary, gentlemen, the authors.
    2. Vasyan1971 8 February 2020 10: 32 New
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      Quote: bar
      he has elections in the summer, he needs this land.

      Yes? Is it necessary? The edge?
  13. samarin1969 8 February 2020 08: 26 New
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    Prices, oil, gas ... Interestingly, is this all "internal" or "foreign" policy? And, exactly, is this "politics"? In terms of purpose and content - just a cartel.
  14. fif21 8 February 2020 08: 27 New
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    To please Lukashenko, Putin did not bother Sechin, Alikperov and Miller! And thanks for that. Lukashenko has AS in the semi-criminal economy, and two s in the market one (x \ f Heavenly slow-moving). hi
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      Oh, direct good deed))
  15. GenNick 8 February 2020 08: 55 New
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    Quote: Anatole Klim
    Quote: Gardamir
    The cards are long signed

    The road maps were not signed, there were 31 in total, some of them were agreed, but the Belarusian side refused to coordinate them according to tax legislation, single currency, and supranational authorities. If you are talking about the Union Treaty, then it was fulfilled by 10%, and because of this, roadmaps arose to deepen integration. And Lukashenko will win again in the upcoming Belarusian elections, the opposition is weak there, the Old Man will not allow cookies, the Belarusian stability is shorter.

    Maps are long speckled ...
    Well, someone has TWO Aces on a miserable ??? ...
  16. Vasyan1971 8 February 2020 10: 29 New
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    Belarusian media speak extremely carefully about the results of negotiations in Krasnaya Polyana

    So dad straightened up or not?
  17. Mentat 8 February 2020 10: 31 New
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    Quote: Rich
    The Russian delegation noted that for Belarus, the supply situation will be maintained according to the parameters of 2019. At the same time, it is emphasized that the agreements apply only to the current year

    The results of many hours of negotiations in a nutshell: they all left as they were. yes

    No, they didn’t. Lukashenko asked for a year of delay in gas. The topic of oil is closed, there will be no discounts.

    Kozak: “Continue consultations at the Government level, at the level of ministries and departments on improving integration mechanisms.”

    How is this fundamentally different from what I wrote yesterday: “We agreed to agree on an agreement at the next meeting”?

    Who was there minusting me yesterday, were you convinced?
    1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 23 New
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      Strange pattern. All neighboring countries "begs" from year to year. Especially zealously satisfies various Wishlist Gazprom. Well, he likes to work at a loss.
  18. Romka 8 February 2020 10: 44 New
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    M ... yes ... my forecast did not come true. recourse Usually, everything happened according to a different scenario, and now in Belarus we will have to tighten our belts. And ahead of the presidential election. The dollar exchange rate to the "hare" for the week jumped by five percent (damn dollar, how did he know ??? angry ) Apparently the decision was made: New Russia “to the table” (Surkov fired), Belarus “to the embrace” (Kozak curator). Something like this.
    1. Genry 8 February 2020 13: 08 New
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      Quote: Romka
      Usually, everything happened according to a different scenario, and now in Belarus we will have to tighten our belts.

      For the population, practically nothing has changed. Incomes (privileges) for the Belarusian export of oil products will simply be cut off. The local oligarchy will moderate its appetites.
  19. Prjanik 8 February 2020 10: 48 New
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    He was immediately told this, if you want oil at domestic prices, integrate in the Russian Federation, which may be incomprehensible here. Otherwise, we will soon be waiting for Your Excellency in the Rostov or Smolensk region. Well, at least I saw snow.
    1. onix757 8 February 2020 11: 18 New
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      I would not want the Republic of Belarus to become another tumbleweed field in the Russian Federation as dirt
      1. Prjanik 8 February 2020 11: 25 New
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        And what would change for Belarus if it entered the republic into the Russian Federation? Nothing, except that someone would have a little less power. All my life they lived together, from those same "gray days". Take, for example, Kalmykia. Is there someone forbidding to speak Kalmyk, or is Buddhism there forbidding Kalmyk culture or tradition? No, but there are full preferences and energy at domestic prices.
    2. AU Ivanov. 8 February 2020 11: 25 New
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      That's right: if you want nishtyaki at a price for the Smolensk region - become the Smolensk region. By status. But you want to get on the tree and don’t rip your ass off.
      1. Stepan80 8 February 2020 12: 21 New
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        Become Smolensk ??? Have you seen Smolensk and say Bobruisk ???
        The discount price of 1.5 billion is not worth it ... .give a trillion, we will think)))
        1. Uncle Izya 8 February 2020 21: 17 New
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          If you go a little bit into history when Belarus sold the gas transmission system to Gazprom, the contract stipulated a contract that gas would be sold to Belarus at domestic prices
          1. Astoria 8 February 2020 22: 40 New
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            What to dig, here is Uncle Izya's contract
            docs.cntd.ru/document/902357739
            show where in this contract after 2012 it is written that gas for
            Belarus will be sold at domestic prices
            Time has gone laughing
      2. Sergej1972 8 February 2020 19: 52 New
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        Well, not with a region, but with a republic like Tatarstan, Bashkiria, Yakutia, perhaps with expanded powers. Or to create a Union State that is real, but with the condition that most of the executive bodies of the Russian Federation and the Union State be united so as not to spend extra money.
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          Tell Venezuela Cuba Syria, why spend the extra money or do you seriously think they will be part of the Russian Federation? )))) geopolitics and allies are expensive, but you can shrink to the garden ring and sit behind the walls of the Kremlin without ambition. ...
          But in this case, you can’t save, as you lose influence and money even more. ...
          1. Sergej1972 9 February 2020 11: 37 New
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            These three states have never been part of the Russian Empire and (or) the USSR. Compare them with Belarus demagoguery.
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              So what do you win if you stop "feeding" the closest ally and having lost it at your side and what is more profitable for you than Venezuela than Belarus ??? Until recently, you considered the most pro-Russian baron (father of the Russians) to be your own, but already recorded as an enemy? ))) what will Russia win from a change to a conditional patroshenko ???
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      To buy Belarus for 1.5 billion? )))) can Smolensk sell for $ 300 million? ))))
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    Well, it’s difficult to argue with this, of course, in view of even a cursory tour of World History.
    I really don’t even count how many times the pro-Western forces wanted to stir Belarusians into “great” affairs and “freedom.” I myself voted in 2010 for the most pro-Western politician, and not because he liked the little flags with asterisks, but simply for an adequate alternative to the current .

    I am always surprised at such speculations. What good do you expect from a pro-Western candidate, calling it an adequate alternative. Just not Lukashenko, but if you put a conditional Hitler in it, will it make you feel better? In my opinion, a rather uninterested person, I personally don’t care whether Belarus will remain as it is now or openly embark on a pro-Western course, but on the one hand it is better to know the honest position of the neighbor. Together, together or on opposite sides of the barricade. We are already surrounded by non-friendly countries of the ex-USSR, and Russia is declared the reason for this hostility. Example. You are not loved by a neighbor or work colleague, or all in the plural, but you are to blame. Who's guilty? You can discuss this topic, a psychologist would definitely conclude that both parties are to blame. This is a commonly used expression. But after going through a life school, I know for sure that you can become an outcast without doing anything for it. You don't even need a strong, recognized leader. People like to unite against - "Why is he so and so." And there will always be a leader of this slander, even if he was not there. How many schoolgirls and schoolchildren have been beaten up because they are not like that. Very often gets the "right", for example, domestic children who are not accustomed to give a power rebuff. This is understandable, they are brought up differently and practice shows that it can create big problems for a child if mother is not a brilliant puppeteer and has not "bribed", this is not literally, of school teachers and parents. But at the next stage, upon graduation, this is no longer possible. But there the children are already older, they are leaving childish maximalism and teenage aggression and stupidity.
    Among the countries, everything is the same. Knocking out preferences from Russia is already some kind of sport. Therefore, it’s better to let the pro-Western course take a sip, I sincerely wish everyone success, but I understand that they don’t give money for free, only for work, for example, an anti-Russian outpost, but they won’t pay much for everyone. This work suits you, you are taken.
    1. Stepan80 8 February 2020 12: 26 New
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      We have a conditional hitler for 25 years sitting on the throne and a lover of the latter by the way. .... than the western vector is worse than the Russian if we discard emotions ??? Nothing, technology is the law money civilized society, etc. ..... I am a fan of Russia but would prefer to live like all patriots in the west. .... about the grandfathers' homeland, etc. leave the poor. .... the homeland is my family and my house, and where he bulet is another. ....
      If you think to remove the baron, then what kind of patroshenko will you be better ???
      1. Prjanik 8 February 2020 12: 52 New
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        ... than the western vector is worse than the Russian if we discard emotions ??? Yes nothing
        Well, how can you be so naive ?! Do you think Europe is waiting for Belarus with open arms? Does the example of Eastern European countries say nothing? They need either an anti-Russian bridgehead or a sales market with a murdered domestic economy and industry. Moreover, when the need for a bridgehead disappears, the country automatically goes into the category of a sales market, competitors in Western Europe are definitely not needed! China, likewise, enters only as long as it is possible to pump out technology and brains. And only Russia will build fraternal partnerships, as for itself, since we are one people.
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          As it turns out, Russia also does not really wait, does not give a discount, etc. ..... everyone pursues a personal interest and this is understandable. .... it so happened that Belarus is a springboard for both. .... for us better neutrality and good relations with our neighbors are of course not friends against Russia and outside the bloc status. By the way, Belarus as a mediator is very beneficial to Russia, as well as support in the UN on the world stage, than the region as many dream of. ...
      2. Pissarro 8 February 2020 21: 04 New
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        Everything is much simpler. Emotionless. For Belarus, Russia has a sales market and a source of raw materials. In the West, there is no raw material and Belarusian goods are not needed. That is, the more the bank to the west, the less money and work in Belarus, the more expensive gas and gasoline. Joining Russia will generally reduce the cost of the army, diplomatic missions, state machinery, reduce tariffs and give subsidies. It is clear to a sensible Belarusian that the less sovereignty, the fuller the refrigerator
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          Yeah. ... and in exchange for a refrigerator 200th hundredths from Syria and so forth of our guys ??? Why is there no raw material in the west ??? In my opinion, gas in Europe is even cheaper at $ 110 in winter and other resources. .... why it will not be possible to buy resources in Russia even if you sell to Ukraine? Why goods are not needed if the EU is the third partner after Russia Ukraine! ??? Investments will come and the goods will become more in demand in the west. ..... I’m not mistaken much, but we certainly won’t live worse, which is worse than Moldova or Romania? )))) the example of Poland is quite revealing .....
          1. Pissarro 9 February 2020 18: 57 New
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            and in return for a refrigerator 200th hundredths from Syria and so forth of our guys ???


            Russia has long ceased sending conscripts to hot spots

            Why is there no raw material in the west ??? In my opinion, gas in Europe is even cheaper at $ 110 in winter and other resources


            Due to geography, he is not there. And what is is very expensive. And even if it is there you do not have the infrastructure to deliver it. The same cheap gas is in a German or Austrian gas storage facility for $ 110 due to a warm winter. You can’t drag him to Minsk in any way

            . Why it will not be possible to buy resources in Russia even if you sell to Ukraine?


            It is possible but at world prices. Ukraine is a temporary forced option until the completion of construction flows.
            Investments will come and the goods will become more in demand in the west.


            It makes no sense to invest in Belarus in Europe, where in Spain and Italy unemployment is at 25%. The EU is important to create jobs at home. Something in Moldova and Ukraine there is no investment flow. They are not even in Bulgaria or Lithuania. You do not shine for sure
            ... I’m not mistaken much, but we certainly won’t live worse, which is worse than Moldova or Romania?


            A strange example, they live worse than you. Are you striving for poverty?)
            1. Stepan80 9 February 2020 19: 34 New
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              The trade balance will be filled by someone else! All countries Bulgaria Lithuania Poland live many times better than Russia, I was in everyone including Russia! We have gas and so for enterprises $ 280-320 !!! We will buy in Russia for $ 170 or how much is there market, what is the problem to buy in Russia ???
              Ale sell in NATO but do not sell to us? And production is not placed where unemployment is 25%, a business is located where labor and qualifications are cheaper, and we all have it ..... and we didn’t do it ourselves with a finger, I adjusted it when the chairman left. .... no country has disappeared yet, why do you decide that we are miserable?
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    such as buying oil at world prices

    World market prices are not at all what domestic prices are! So MARKET or DOMESTIC, it turns out Belarusians have squeezed. hi hi
    1. Genry 8 February 2020 13: 22 New
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      It turns out Belarus squeezed.

      No.
      For this year they lost tax compensation for all petroleum products that Belarus exports. Those. there will be cheap oil only for domestic consumption.
      Next year, the situation will depend on the fulfillment of Belarusian promises on the union.
  22. rotmistr60 8 February 2020 10: 54 New
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    "Well, son, did your Poles help you?" ("Taras Bulba"). Well, Alexander Grigoryevich, did your Americans help you? I had to push my inflated Wishlist and pretend "national pride" so that the country would not bend and still be in power. It is necessary to be friends with Russia on mutually beneficial conditions, and not for playing with one goal.
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    2. Pissarro 8 February 2020 21: 11 New
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      Funny character. A rogue Putin does not come out from summits and meetings. Yes, and having a memory remembers what Russia was 20 years ago and what is now.
      . And the director of a state farm created a state out of nothing that lives on what it will do and sell, and which has one problem, Russia.

      How can one brainwash to write like that. What he did to the farm director he made from cheap Russian raw materials, and what he sold so he sold the problem to Russia. If Russia didn’t give raw materials and didn’t provide the market, you would have to engage in prostitution so sweet for you a la Ukraine, both ordinary and political.
  24. Zaurbek 8 February 2020 11: 37 New
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    I just didn’t understand the results. Only GDP won hockey
  25. magadan72 8 February 2020 11: 48 New
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    It is a pity of course that the leaders did not agree. Yes, and the problems of the neighboring state are not very interesting. I’m interested in the essence of the “tax maneuver.” It seems like the export tax on oil products is replaced by a tax on hydrocarbon production. LIKE ANYTHING SUCH BUT ... In the past, our deeply respected government stated that the export duty for hydrocarbons protects the domestic market during various reforms, defaults and various problems associated with the fall of the ruble (the export duty compensates for the benefits of foreign supplies in the event of a ruble collapse and forces selling petroleum products in Russia- "DEFENSE OF THE DOMESTIC MARKET"). And now, after the adoption of this law (HOW I ASSUME) with the next problems of the economy or just a depreciation of the ruble, oil oligarchs will chase everything completely officially for a mound for currency, then they will exchange for a fallen ruble, pay taxes, salaries and get extra profit ... Media they will blow what good they are, pay so many taxes (in rubles ...), and in the country fuel will either disappear or the price will skyrocket (THE MARKET IS EVERYTHING ...) AND COZY APARTMENTS IN LONDON ARE WAITING FOR THE OWNERS ... Is it so! ? or am I mistaken ???? (I would like that I was mistaken ....)
  26. Azimuth 8 February 2020 11: 50 New
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    Snow fell at night in Minsk. Seen from Sochi brought ONLY.
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    I am pleased to! that the Slavs agreed.
  28. Gardamir 8 February 2020 13: 41 New
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    Read the comments and be surprised. Such joy for Miller, such gratitude to Yeltsin that he divided Russia, such hatred for everything Russian.
    And what is funny, perhaps they sincerely consider themselves patriots.
    1. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 13: 51 New
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      Read the comments and be surprised. Such joy for Miller, such gratitude to Yeltsin that he divided Russia, such hatred for everything Russian

      You read your comments - and you are surprised: how did you get the bile that you pour here with buckets?

      Nothing personal, just the impression of the read yes
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      Do not be surprised. For 30 years, bourgeois authorities have been erasing the remnants of Soviet patriotism and nurturing bourgeois patriots who must defend the interests of domestic socially responsible businessmen. One thing is bad, oligarchs will never reciprocate.
      1. Gardamir 8 February 2020 20: 22 New
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        nurtures bourgeois patriots,
        You have now supported the patriot of the bourgeoisie.
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          It's not too late to fix it)
  29. senima56 8 February 2020 15: 10 New
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    "... to look for alternative suppliers, about energy supplies from Norway and the United States was a" game to raise rates "" - otherwise we didn’t understand this ourselves? fool fool
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  31. Gardamir 8 February 2020 17: 29 New
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    Interesting news, Turkey refuses gas from Russia, in Europe gas is cheaper, but not for Belarus. The boys want to repeat "Belarusian".
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      In the news of normal people, Putin and Erdogan open the Turkish stream. I wonder which iron you get the news from?
  32. Alexga 8 February 2020 18: 39 New
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    As expected, the negotiations ended in nothing. Sorry, but what can you do. The Union Treaty, together with the Union State, can be considered buried. Probably, the MTO requirements were more necessary in order to complete this tax maneuver. But this alliance agreement could at least provide equal conditions for business entities of the two countries. You can’t even talk about the Customs Union and the EAEU; in the local affairs, the issue of hydrocarbons is generally presented in separate documents. The conditions are the same for the sale of production products, but different for the purchase of raw materials. Clownery! With economic unions, everything is clear, let's look at the military-political. Something tells me that a military alliance will also become similar. Like, if you do not join the Russian Federation, do not even count on our help. This can also be expected. In short, the Union finish! It is surprising when reading the local pearls of local writers that no one asks a question to the inhabitants of Belarus: "Why do not you want to join us ?!" It may turn out that under the agreement on the use of two military facilities of the Russian Federation in Belarus, there will be very big disagreements. the use was previously free, and in the new conditions for replenishing the budget Luka will say - “I want a thousand billion annually! Well, if you don’t have that kind of money, then I'm sorry, you have a year to wind up!” Funny, but who knows how it will be. Until June 6, the issue must be resolved. And Lukashenko’s elections are only in August. And air defense will disconnect from Russian air defense. Yesterday I asked the masses a question: Is GDP ready to increase the distance to the line of transition to attack in the direction of Suwalki by 400 km, is ready. Well good luck to him. And then, traitors, traitors! soldier
  33. paco.soto 8 February 2020 19: 33 New
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    With squeamish perplexity I read the anti-Belarussian comments of recent weeks !, "where are you getting from?" ?! and who are you atntiBelarus commentators!
  34. paco.soto 8 February 2020 19: 44 New
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    With cold indignation and sacrilege, like Belarus: I thank God that Father and Father-in-law of the first marriage will not read this discussion in VO!
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      who are you atntiBelarus commentators!
      Fans of the robbery of the people. They do not care whom to rob. And commentators, for a little money, are ready to praise and scold anyone.
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        Then you blame Russia constantly. It turns out for a little money, it's good that they admitted
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          Then that
          Find at least one of my comments where I scold Russia. I ask Medvedev. Millerov, Shchuvalov and others do not associate with Russia.
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        Thank you for your comment sane! Honor to you!
  35. old friend 9 February 2020 00: 48 New
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    My opinion on the situation.
    A kind of attempt to look objectively at all this trash
    1. AHL never behaved towards the Russian Federation as an ally. I don’t remember a single real thing. Everything was limited to words, at best, positive, and sometimes completely negative in relation to the Russian Federation
    2. The AHL constantly insulted Russia (government, one hell). Examples of his speeches on this topic - to hell on the internet
    3. When the Russians had nothing to eat and there was real ruin and hopelessness, Russia helped Belarus with gas and oil and did not stutter about any preferences. What was the AHL doing at this time? Remember, at least, about invitations to magazines from the regions of the Russian Federation and the protrusion of the "successes" of the Republic of Belarus in the economy against the background of a "decaying" RF.
    4. The AHL constantly demanded preferences in the economy and received them. Even now, the price of gas and oil comes at a decent discount. They did not roll out a price tag at the level of world prices for oil (a discount of 17% is not a penny at all) or gas ($ 127 is not $ 150)
    5. The AHL has not done anything in these 20 free years for the economic reform of Belarus. All this time was lost and billions of dollars were simply spent on eating, not on development.
    6. The AHL for all this in time by begging with elements of blackmail almost formed the image of Belarusians as “ungrateful arrogant parasites”. And these are Belarusians, who have always been considered the standard of industriousness, honesty and decency among 3 Slavic peoples ?!
    7. Hand on heart, didn’t anyone understand that the “Old Man” is breeding the Russians? All this talk about unification has long been turned into a "one-goal game." Most all understood and tacitly participated in this endless deception. After all, most seriously did not plan to really unite with the Russian Federation into one state. At least, even I (the only one of my friends and colleagues) always considered the maximum only an economic union.
    Summary:
    Maybe, at least from a banal gratitude, we (Belarusians) acknowledge these facts and say thanks to the Russian Federation for help? And, if you decide so, let's go our own way without any reproaches, whining and insults towards Russia? Keeping normal human relationships? It will be more honest. I think Russia will be completely satisfied with the neutrality of the Republic of Belarus and non-alignedness, if the dream of a union state is still unattainable.

    And yet - do not make the mistakes of Ukraine. We want to be independent - do not change it (independence) to new owners such as the USA, Poland, etc.
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      Nothing ... There are sane people in Belarus. And then according to the comments on the network one would think that suddenly at one moment all the Belarusians became Poles.
      1. Alexga 9 February 2020 11: 08 New
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        Did you like it? Your Yabloko say about the same. Many words, the guilty appointed, repented, assured the neighbors of love and devotion. True, there are no offers. But the readers liked it, praised it. True, there is no forward movement. So, do not flatter yourself.
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          If anything, then I did not repent. You have an inverted perception matrix. One person should repent here. He came up with this scheme of "divorce" from the United State. At first I planned to become the main one, as his popularity then went over the top (the Republic of Belarus then lived very well against the background of the Russian Federation. For why - see paragraph 3). Then, after the advent of GDP, I realized that you can only rely on economic profits from chatter. Since then, this catavasia has been going on.
          It is clear to everyone that the EH is unrealistic in the present conditions. This was clear even when the first friction began when trying to create a single currency and an emission center. Not the same AHL person to give power to the side and become second "after God."

          Threat To the praise / cons I do not care. Someone has to tell the truth. True - everyone has her own. I have one. I do not impose.
        2. old friend 9 February 2020 13: 56 New
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          Once again for the stubborn - One State is impossible.
          The reasons:
          1. AHL will never share power. In addition, for him sins - to hell. You don’t think that those people who disappeared in time just disappeared?
          2. Most citizens of Belarus do not agree to Belarus joining the Russian Federation. It happened. why is a separate question.

          One way or another, there is a "breaking". Without support from the Russian Federation, you will have to forget about social programs. Or Lukashenko will impose additional populations. requisitions that also will not end in good. Soon it will become clear to everyone what our “economic miracle” is worth.
          One can only hope that he has enough brains not to aggravate the situation. I would not want to get more restrictions on the access of our products to the Russian market. The consequences will, I think, be clear to everyone.

          Let's see what will happen in the next 2 weeks.
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          Quote: AlexGa
          Did you like it?


          What did you like? I see a sound assessment of the situation. This is enough for dialogue. Because how to conduct a dialogue with the crazy is simply physically impossible. And some actions of the Belarusian authorities and the comments of Belarusian users are exactly what make this impression.
          That's all I wanted to convey with my comment.
  36. Victor March 47 9 February 2020 14: 31 New
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    And which, in FIG it is a market. Remember the 1990 prices. And not on international supplies, but on Russian-Belarusian.
  37. VB
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    About Fedot Archer
    ...
    About you, about the scoundrel,
    Glory already in Cherepovets!
    You are to all the people in soul
    I do not care in my face! ..
  38. lvov_aleksey 9 February 2020 23: 25 New
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    “At the same time, experts in Russia note that earlier statements by Belarusian representatives about their readiness to look for alternative suppliers, about energy supplies from Norway and the US were a“ game to raise rates. "
    rates what is the question?
    you can play to lower tariff rates, or still raise political rates