AMRAAM missile engine problems




The magazine "Janes Defense Weekly" published an article stating that the problems identified with the solid-fuel engine of the main American aviation Raytheon AIM-120C AMRAAM medium-range air-to-air missiles have led to the fact that these missiles have not been supplied to the US military aviation for about two years, and no solution has yet been found.

Problems were identified during the testing of solid fuel engines manufactured by ATK in AMRAAM under the conditions of “normal” cold temperatures. In the 2009 year, tests revealed repeated "failures" in the engine in these temperature conditions. This surprised Raytheon and ATK, since these engines have been in production since 1980, and no technological changes have been made to the composition of the fuel. In 2010, the US Department of Defense halted acceptance of Raytheon’s manufactured AMRAAM missiles and suspended payments to the corporation due to an engine issue that had emerged. This suspension is still in effect, and now Raytheon has accumulated around 800 undelivered rockets. Since AMRAAM’s shipments to foreign buyers are carried out through the FMS through the US Department of Defense, export of these missiles is in fact suspended. During this test, the engine is frozen to a temperature of -65 degrees Fahrenheit (-54 Celsius), and then turned on at the stand. ATK supplies engines in batches of 48 units, and it is standard practice for the US Department of Defense to accept nine randomly selected engines from each batch. If all nine engines work successfully, then the rest of the engines of the party go for installation for the rocket. However, unexpectedly, at this “cold” test, the engines began to consistently fail.

Despite the numerous efforts of Raytheon and ATK, the nature of the problem that has emerged remains a mystery and no solution has yet been found. The roentgenoscopy of the engines and the change in the methods of grinding and compacting solid fuel yielded no results. In May, 2012, the engine tests were again failed, and Raytheon now hopes to test a new batch of engines in August.

In connection with the problems with ATK engines, Raytheon decided to resort to installing on AMRAAM an alternative type of engine manufactured by the Norwegian company Nammo Raufoss, which successfully passed the cold soak tests. The first batch of Nammo 15 engines was produced by Raytheon in June 2012 of the year, and 400 motors must be supplied before the end of the year. However, so far Nammo’s production capacity is insufficient - the Norwegians produce only 27 engines per month, although Raytheon hopes that by the end of the year they will be able to bring the output to 100 units per month. In addition, the Nammo engines do not essentially solve the problem with the main customer of AMRAAM missiles - the US Department of Defense does not want to have a single foreign supplier of engines for these missiles.

Also in the JDW article it is said, referring to information from Rayheon itself, that the first operational test (OT) of the AMRAAM rocket AIM-120D, conducted on July 10, failed due to the failure of the control system. Prior to this, 15 AIM-120D rockets with varying degrees of success were released during the development test (DT). The development of AIM-120D continues to be seriously behind schedule due to technical problems and insufficient funding.
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  1. esaul 23 July 2012 07: 15 New
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    Inevitably, thoughts arise in my head that can be interpreted by pro-Westernists, as another Russian narcissistic conclusion - “Isn’t the American superiority in weapons (so loudly trumpeted around the world!) Over Russian weapons that they simply trumpet it louder? Ah, brothers? laughing
    I think the answer is obvious ...
    1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 07: 21 New
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      Hi Valera, If you start shooting beautiful videos today, where fighters are shown showing spectacular flying, missile launches, and other window dressing, only our army will be instead! and all this spread on YouTube, I guarantee that in a month they will say in the world, the Russian army is superior to the American in all respects. PR is doing its job. Hollywood knows how to work!
      1. esaul 23 July 2012 07: 32 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hollywood knows how to work!

        Salute, buddy! And nevertheless, today Russia takes the second place in the world in military exports. And even three or four years ago, the states even in their thoughts did not allow it. In this case, not advertising, but the quality of Russian weapons speaks for itself.
        And if you take a recent example with the desire of the Turech region to acquire Russian C-400, then - here is an example of the US methods of "advertising" their weapons laughing The Turks were unequivocally “prompted” from Washington that Russian air defense is poorly integrated into missile defense. Those. - directly indicated that de - "Guys, if your grandmothers will transfer to the Russian budget for air defense, then forget about supporting you with our missile defense!"
        "Beautiful" advertising ...! lol
        1. Armata 23 July 2012 07: 50 New
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          Quote: esaul
          Russia ranks second in the world in military exports. And even three or four years ago, the states even in their thoughts did not allow it. In this case, not advertising, but the quality of Russian weapons speaks for itself.

          The best advertisement is the words of a neighbor. If one neighbor says that the sausage that is advertised is bad, then no matter how much money you put into advertising, those who tried it will listen. And with weapons as well.
        2. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 07: 52 New
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          Quote: esaul
          In this case, not advertising speaks for itself, but the quality of Russian weapons

          And here subtlety and without knowing it hit the nail on the head. Valera, I don’t know whether you saw or not advertising in 117 stealth ........ but in this video, a beautiful video, something like this: It’s an absolute weapon, a conqueror of the world, the one who possesses this plane is invincible, the peak to which a person could not to get in, but now there is a stealth. I watched a couple of videos, they were broadcast on American TV. Some take advertising, while others take quality. good
          1. esaul 23 July 2012 08: 01 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , the peak on which a person could not climb, but now there is a stealth.

            Tobish - not vulnerable. Nevertheless, these "peaks" were picked up both in Iraq and in the former Yugoslavia. Ascetic, in my opinion, gave reports from the Iraq and Yugoslav wars.
            1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 08: 44 New
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              Quote: esaul

              Tobish - not vulnerable. Nevertheless, these "peaks" were picked up in Iraq and in the former Yugoslavia

              So I say, inappropriate consumer hype laughing
              1. VAF
                VAF 23 July 2012 10: 57 New
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                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                So I say, inappropriate consumer hype


                Alexander, +! drinks

                A proper ???? Yes, and at dumping prices ???? And in addition with very short periods of execution and delivery and at the same time with proper maintenance ???

                Photo of the transport-launcher of the ship variant of the long-range missile launcher CJ-10, which, as participants in the forum suggest, is being tested on the experimental ship 891.

                The long-range missile launcher CJ-10 (ChangJiang-10, or Long Sword - “Long Sword”) with a range of 2200 km and placed on a self-propelled launcher has been in service with the PLA since about the mid-2000s.

                This missile system was first demonstrated at the 2009 military parade in honor of the 60th anniversary of the founding of the PRC.
                It is believed that the rocket was developed on the basis of the Korshun missile defense delivered by Ukraine.
                There is also a variant of the airborne missile launcher CZ-10Zai, which is equipped with N-6 (Tu-16) bombers.
                It is reported on the development of a variant with a range increased to 3000+ km, having the designation CJ-20.



                A shipborne variant of the Kyrgyz Republic can go into service with Type 052C destroyers, which will significantly increase the capabilities of the Chinese Navy to strike at strategic military and economic targets located in the depths of the enemy’s territory.

                According to its characteristics, this missile corresponds to the American Tomahawk.



                The advantage of the Chinese KR, like the Tomahawk, is the placement of the turbofan engine inside the hull, while the Russian KR X-55 is equipped with a retractable power plant, which significantly increases the radar visibility of the rocket.

        3. VAF
          VAF 23 July 2012 10: 30 New
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          Quote: esaul
          And nevertheless, today Russia takes the second place in the world in military exports.


          Valery welcome you +!

          So is it good or bad ??? I don’t understand something .... recourse

          I won’t stop about airplanes. many forum users “proved” to me that 2 (!!!!) Su-30s + 15 Yak-130s are so wonderful (!!!!!) for our Air Force (I especially liked the fact that “Yak-130-adopted to WEAPONS ", it’s understandable_ the most military fighter-bomber, or as another put it ..... strategic, well, God bless them) this is from your team, so you and ..." messing around "! lol

          About the ships the same I will be ... because. in the words of one of your "associates" - the fulfillment of import orders in quantity, well, you know who and what .. led to the fact that almost all shipbuilding was preserved and therefore we have, after a dozen years, finally laid the ship's 3 !! !

          Only I am tormented by the question, but we have that our money is gone or ran out or wasn’t ????? And that they themselves could not order these ships for their money ??? Well, yes, it was necessary to "push"! the entire stub fund to amer at meager interest, and only due to this we survived, but if we invested our money from the sale of oil and gas, and everything else, it would be inflation !!! ????

          Well, and so for bananas and palm oil, well, and yet (in general, bezeller- give the Papuans a loan and credit, give it back, and then forgive ???).

          Not too thin,? This is about your comments yesterday about the Great Savior of the Fatherland (to the article about Ivashov).

          About the same air defense I will not know everything how much and to whom!

          But here is a fresh little info ... on aviation weapons:

          Tactical Missile Arms Corporation OJSC
          Algeria 6,67 2012 Contract (KRK Uran-E)
          Algeria 31,4 2013 Contract (KRK Uran-E)
          Vietnam 49,65 2012 Contract (X-31A for Su-30MK2)
          India 59,1 2013 Contract (X-35E, option)
          Indonesia 6,31 2012 Contract (X-31P)
          Syria 43,5 2012 - 2013 Contract (X-35E)
          Turkmenistan12,27 2012 Contract (KRK "Uran-E")

          Total for contracts concluded 208,9 2012 - 2013

          OJSC "State Moscow Design Bureau" Vympel "named after I.I. Toropova »
          Algeria 8,1 2012 Contract (DB, AKU)
          India 31,33 2012 - 2013 Contract (RVV AE, option)
          India 462,7 2012 - 2013 Contract (RVV AE)
          Indonesia 0,57 2012 Contract (OBD)
          Indonesia 8,8 2012 Contract (RVV AE, X-29TE)
          Syria 15,0 2012 Contract (RVV AE)
          Slovakia 8,7 2012 Contract (RVV AE)
          Total for contracts concluded 535,2 2012 - 2013

          GosMKB Raduga OJSC named after AND I. Bereznyak
          Indonesia 5,2 2012 Contract (X-59ME)
          France 40,0 2014 Contract (R&D)

          Total for contracts 45,2 2012 - 2014

          OJSC GNPP Region
          India 17,68 2013 Contract (KAB, option)
          Malaysia 0,017 2012 Contract (WHO CTO)
          Syria 9,88 2012 Contract (KAB)

          Total for contracts concluded 27,58 2012 - 2013

          Other enterprises:

          RKB Globus OJSC, Horizon OJSC, KBM OJSC,
          AOMZ OJSC, Salyut OJSC, Iskra OJSC

          Total for contracts concluded 31,62 2012 - 2015

          Total Corporation
          Total for contracts concluded 848,5 2012 - 2015

          So now the question is ... for connoisseurs ....., and yes, before answering, it is advisable to find out somehow (from friends, colleagues, etc.) which of them even saw the X-31 missile, X-35 I'm not even talking about that. to start it, well, about the 29th and 59th the same, because whoever dealt with them, then everyone has been retired for a long time (with millions on the couch for a funeral ??? !!!!).

          True, some met KABs, but very rarely.

          Naturally, GLITsevtsev, LIIyevtsev, Lipetsk and Voronezh don’t need to be interested, all the same testers and researchers, and God himself ordered to see and apply it!

          Quote: esaul
          Guys, if your grandmother on air defense migrate to the budget of Russia


          Well, that’s not even funny anymore !!!!

          Waiting ..... respectfully
          1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 10: 51 New
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            Hi Sergey, many simply don’t answer, but simply solder the minus. Some of the site doesn’t even have 20 years, and the professionalism of comments and their assessment are not criticized. So Sergey is a question into the void.
            1. VAF
              VAF 23 July 2012 11: 20 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              Hi Sergey, many simply don’t answer, but simply solder the minus.


              Alexander, +! Well, we don’t get used to it ... to the minuses, and to the insults the same .... but as with chile even in antiquity ... we won’t be upset with holy fools, so we will ...!

              and I changed my tactics, just yesterday I wrote about this ... now no debate ... only ... "face on the table" !!!

              By the way, it would be very interesting to listen to the speeches of approvers around Krymsk ..... after the events of yesterday ????

              What will they say now about orange, swamp, etc. and a very "good and caring local authority" ????

              Or will the same question go into the void ???

              But in principle, expecting something else from them would be strange ..... request
          2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 July 2012 11: 16 New
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            Sergey, hello!
            As always, I enjoyed reading your comment. But I still wanted to clarify
            Quote: vaf
            About the ships the same I will be ... because. in the words of one of your "associates" - the fulfillment of import orders in quantity, well, you know who and what .. led to the fact that almost all shipbuilding was preserved and therefore we have, after a dozen years, finally laid the ship's 3 !! !

            The fact is that arms exports, the position of the military-industrial complex, the equipment of its own armed forces and the role of the government in all this are somewhat different things.
            The export of weapons (and even more so - the second place) is EXCELLENT, as it indicates the competitiveness of our weapons and the ability to sell these weapons. The merits of the government in this.
            And the export of weapons is EXCELLENT because it is this export that largely saved our defense industry in the period from about 1990 to the present - because the government in this period leaned, hammered, laid, etc. etc. for military orders. Those. the greatness of exporting weapons as the savior of the domestic military-industrial complex, this is the direct "merit" of the government, which did everything to export / reorient to frying pans to become the only income items of the military-industrial complex.
            The whole question is different - should the government be proud of such “merits”?
            Quote: vaf
            Only I am tormented by the question, but do we not have our own money, or have run out or not ????? And that it was impossible to order these ships for your own money ??? Well, yes, it was necessary to "shove"! the entire stab fund to amer at miserable interest and only due to this we survived, but if they had invested their money from the sale of oil and gas, well, everything else, then there would be inflation !!! ????

            Everything was much funnier :))) While with one hand we invested money in the stabilization fund under a tiny percentage, with the second hand we desperately raked in foreign investment in the economy (just do not confuse them with government loans)
            Those. we give Uncle Sam money for half the price, and immediately (!) we take the money from him - but much more expensive. wassat
            If we had a reasonable economic policy, then this money would just be reinvested in the home economy, as early as in the middle of 2000's, it would have been possible to have a developed investment loan in terms and rates comparable to those in the West.
            Is someone talking about inflation? Well, for some reason, in the West, usually the country has money in circulation - in the amount of annual GDP. Those. for every dollar, yen, euro, etc. manufactured goods -1 dollar, euro and so on. And they live without jerks of inflation, which is typical. And we have this ratio is four times smaller. In the Russian Federation, there is less money in the economy AT TIMES than in European countries ... And so what? Money in the economy is a deficit, as a result, loan rates climb upwards, and everything else behind them .... so the danger of inflation when the stabilization fund is poured into the economy - yes, of course this is possible if your grandmother is stupid. If you do it wisely, it will not be inflation, but its reduction! But ... bad dancer cojones interfere. But how much does the government interfere ...
            1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 11: 27 New
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Those. for every dollar, yen, euro, etc. manufactured goods -1 dollar, euro and so on. And they live without jerking inflation, which is typical. And in our country this ratio is four times less. In the Russian Federation, money in the economy is at times less than in European countries ... And so what? Money in the economy is a deficit, as a result, interest rates on loans go up, and after them everything else .... so there is a danger of inflation when the stabilization fund is “poured” into the economy - yes, of course this is possible if you stupidly dump grandmas. If you do it wisely, then inflation will not come out, but its reduction! But ... the bad dancer cojones get in the way. And so much of everything hindering the government ...
              It is in America then produced goods dollar to dollar fool America earns a dollar, and eats two. And while the loot is being poured into the economy by cars and there is no inflation, or maybe there is still, but it is restrained artificially due to the fact that this machine is not strange. They have a lot of money, but they don’t measure it, that's a fact! Andrei, explain one thing - arms export is good, and who will do the SU-35 for Venezuela?
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 July 2012 11: 41 New
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                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                It is in America then produced goods dollar to dollar

                Alexander, with all due respect to you, is obliged to note: if you are not able to read what is written, then you really should turn the finger at your temple.
                Again. There is GDP (gross domestic product) without falling into the nuances that you yourself can find this additional product produced in the period. In other words, ALL the new value of goods, services, including real, fake, and so on - everything.
                And there is a quantity of money in circulation. Those. the amount of funds in the settlement accounts of enterprises, the state, individuals (non-cash money) + the whole mass of cash.
                so in the USA and in Europe the ratio of annual GDP to the amount of money in circulation is approximately 1 to 1. We have 4-1. Those. we have a lot less money in circulation per ruble than in the west.
                And your congenial
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                And at the same time, the loot is thrown into the economy by wagons and there is no inflation, or it may still be there, but it is artificially restrained due to how strange it is not the same machine. Money they have a shaft, but they have not measure the measure, that's a fact!

                It still cries out to heaven :)))) Alexander, well, teach a materiel - then you will understand that including America, the printing press DOES NOT INCREASE the amount of money in circulation. It increases the national debt — that is, printed papers go not into the economy (where they would inevitably cause inflation), but with all our Kudrin. Those. launching the printing press america simply changes the cut paper for imported goods
                1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 12: 05 New
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                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  Alexander, well, teach the materiel - then you will understand that America, including the printing press, DOES NOT INCREASE the amount of money in circulation. It increases public debt - that is, printed pieces of paper do not go to the economy (where they would inevitably cause inflation), but to all of our Kudrin. Those. launching a printing press america simply exchanges cut paper for imported goods
                  Andrei, everything is clear with the state debt, but what about a lot of billions of dollars injected into the economy, help to banks, business, it’s loot that has been invested in its own economy at the 0,25 rate, if I’m not mistaken, there is an external debt to America, and there’s an internal debt, I’m talking about the internal one. And by the way, there is inflation in America, 2-3% could be wrong.
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  It increases public debt - that is, printed pieces of paper do not go to the economy.
                  What about Obama announced multibillion-dollar injections into the US economy?
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 July 2012 13: 08 New
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                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Andrei, everything is clear with the state debt, but how about many billions of billions of injections into the economy, helping banks, business is a loot in your own economy at the rate of 0,25 if I am not mistaken

                    Here it is just necessary to distinguish - since American banks are essentially transnational, then “bobbing” into banks is absolutely not the same thing as investing in the US economy.
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    And by the way, there is inflation in America, 2-3% can be wrong.

                    such inflation is considered useful for the economy, (it does not keep money under the pillow, because there they depreciate) therefore this inflation (who has a little more, who has a little less) adhere to almost all developed countries
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    What about Obama announced multibillion-dollar injections into the US economy?

                    EMNIP there it was not about injecting cut paper into the economy, but about redistributing the state budget towards large amounts of internal order — that is, so that the US budget has ordered more work / services from state companies
              2. VAF
                VAF 23 July 2012 11: 49 New
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                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Andrei, explain one thing - arms export is good, and who will do the SU-35 for Venezuela?


                Alexander, I’ll try to “shake in” +! - exporting weapons is good when you have it at home (put on stream) and get real money for it, and not ......., and even more so on loans !!!!

                Well, the Su-35th, like someone -KNAPO!

                1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 11: 55 New
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                  Quote: vaf
                  Well, Su-35-e, like someone -KNAPO

                  I know this, but which plant will export them, if KNAAPO, who will build them for the Russian Air Force? And eat the fish and do not wash the pan, it doesn’t!
                  1. VAF
                    VAF 23 July 2012 12: 16 New
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                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    KNAAPO, who will build them for the Russian Air Force?


                    Alexander, you surprise me, +! Yes the same !!! KNAPO!

                    Remember the story ... on the Su-30M! How many years and how many of them were exported and after how many DECADES FINALLY (damn, well, that begs it ... about uryayayaya and glory .....) as many as 2 (!!!!!) in 2012 !! !

                    There will be exactly the same story !!! Unfortunately.... request

                    But many say that it turns out and should be .... so ... they know better, because they are closer ..... to the "top" !!! bully
                    1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 13: 04 New
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                      But for this, someone put a minus, Sergey
                      Quote: vaf
                      But many say that it turns out and should be
                      The problem is that the one who says and puts the minuses, the same KNAAPO did not see in the eye and do not know the real state of affairs, including at the factory itself. And it is there, despite all the assurances from the news, not so hot!
                      1. VAF
                        VAF 23 July 2012 13: 57 New
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                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        But for this, someone put a minus


                        So minus is always easier to put than .. answer ...., +! drinks
                        So how do they answer that ..Nothing !!!!

                        And here..lurking and glory .... not a ride !!!
            2. VAF
              VAF 23 July 2012 11: 44 New
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

              Sergey, hello!
              As always, I enjoyed reading your comment. But I still wanted to clarify


              Andrey, mutually, +++++ !!!!!!! And about reading your komenty generally a pleasure! drinks

              You wrote everything absolutely correctly ... but to be honest, it annoys me that 90-96% of products are still exported, and to yourself ..... at best, by the eleventh years !!!

              And we continue and continue .. to someone to deliver something, to someone to modernize and bring to mind, and to yourself ????

              Here is the latest example ... brought to mind the Peruvian MiG-29s completely ....



              Here are their photos ... of these upgraded Peru Air Force MiG-29SMP / UBP aircraft.
              Planes are preparing for the celebration of the next anniversary of the air force, which is celebrated today, July 23.



              And we have???? 24 SMT-ki, with the "French" missiles ???? To the whole country and all the Air Force ???

              And the next "assurances" that just about as soon as. then Mig-29KUB and M2 ... will we do it ???
            3. saturn.mmm 23 July 2012 12: 24 New
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              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Everything was much funnier :))) While with one hand we invested in a stabilization fund at a meager percentage, with the second hand we desperately raked in foreign investment in the economy

              Andrey, you raised a very interesting and important topic.
              Food purchases in the USA (Bush’s legs so far), strange situation in the fishing industry, etc. .. There are too many questions.
              PS I wanted to ask if it was possible to post an article (alternative aircraft carrier ...) on the site or not.
      2. VAF
        VAF 23 July 2012 10: 51 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        PR is doing its job.


        Alexander, welcome, +!

        On top of the topic and the continuation of yesterday ... on amerovskoy aircraft technology ....

        The Bell - 212 military helicopter crashed in Brunei, the Sultanate of Southeast Asia, the Associated Press reported on Saturday July 21, 2012.



        According to the country's Ministry of Defense, at least 10 people died as a result of the crash. Two people were injured, they were taken to the hospital. The fate of several more people is unknown.

        A Turkish army transport helicopter S-70 Sikorsky crashed in the Hakkari province in the southeast of the country. The incident occurred near the border with Iraq on July 22, 2012.



        Four Turkish soldiers died due to a helicopter crash. Eight people were injured.
        1. Eugene
          Eugene 23 July 2012 10: 59 New
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          Sergey, why didn’t you include the fall of the F-16 in the Kuril Islands here? wink
          1. VAF
            VAF 23 July 2012 11: 15 New
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            Quote: Eugene

            Sergey, why didn’t you include the fall of the F-16 in the Kuril Islands here?


            Zhenya, welcome, +! So I wrote ... in continuation of yesterday's topic ???? Or didn’t you notice? So why do they repeat ..... There is enough new ... and so on ... above the roof .... lol
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 23 July 2012 07: 20 New
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    Despite the many efforts of Raytheon and the ATC, the nature of the problem has remained a mystery and no solution has yet been found.

    And I remember something similar happens with the F-22 (they also can’t understand why and what to treat).

    Their weapons, WEAPON itself, already refuse to fight.
  3. aksakal 23 July 2012 08: 21 New
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    He wrote that the US Army was in a deep crisis. Symptoms of a clear crisis are not visible, they are abundantly flooded with dollars. The crisis came despite the most powerful funding (the military budget is twice as large as the military budget of the whole world), the most powerful scientific support (all the best universities in the United States from MIT to Stanford work for defense), and for Hollywood support.
    Several illustrative cases point to the crisis - not entirely successful fifth-generation aircraft, inability to eliminate structural flaws with OBOGS on the Raptor, all these twists and turns with laser weapons, with the Komanche helicopter.
    During the joint work on the disposal of weapons-grade uranium, Rosatom experts admitted that it was a complete surprise for them that the extreme lag behind the Yusovites in the field of nuclear technology and uranium enrichment. Of course, this was skillfully hidden by the Yusovites, so the Russian specialists were very surprised, there was even a gap in the template. Hence there are already well-founded rumors that the NWF of the States is not as terrible as it is painted, especially the Minutmen.
    And now here is the news. Well, when there is a mistake, these missiles were recalled and corrected. But when the authors themselves can not find the reason .... This upsets. Ugh you. It leaves me neutral. Not that again. In short, the idea is clear .-))))
    1. esaul 23 July 2012 08: 37 New
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      Quote: aksakal
      Symptoms of a clear crisis are not visible, they are plentifully flooded with dollars

      Greetings, colleague. I would not say that they are not visible. The reader, let him see ... Here are just some eloquent links of materials from yesterday's Internet:

      http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/14587

      http://www.km.ru/biznes-i-finansy/2012/07/20/federalnaya-rezervnaya-sistema-ssha
      -frs / bernanke-vovse-ne-khochet-stat-k

      http://www.km.ru/v-rossii/2012/07/21/siriiskii-krizis/rossiya-vyigrala-voinu-v-s
      ovete-bezopasnosti

      http://worldcrisis.ru/crisis/999963

      And this is only a tiny fraction of all the material, colleague.
  4. itr
    itr 23 July 2012 08: 51 New
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    The solution alone should be wiped with alcohol and greased liberally drinks
  5. Ortrega
    Ortrega 23 July 2012 09: 27 New
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    When something doesn’t work for these freaks, like a balm for the soul :)
  6. Professor 23 July 2012 09: 31 New
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    Chef, it's all gone ... wassat
    Engines fail at minus -54 Celsius.

    However, rockets without engines did not remain:
    "We accepted our first batch of 15 motors from Nammo last month," said Schulte, "and by the end of the year we hope to have received 400 from Norway. Right now Nammo only does 27 motors in each batch, but we hope they 'll be up to 100 a month by the end of 2012. Every -65 degrees F firing they have done has been good - but we need two healthy suppliers. The US would be reluctant to have one supplier that was a foreign supplier. "

    The last paragraph fell out of the translation, it says that problems arose with missiles in which the effective range is TWO greater than previous versions.
    Official specifications note that the AIM-120D's range has doubled over earlier versions without providing any specific figures. The missile's development has been troubled with technical hitches and funding problems, causing significant delays to the program.
    1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 09: 45 New
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      Professor, what is the temperature at a height of 12 kilometers?
      1. Professor 23 July 2012 09: 55 New
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        -56.5 Celsius, but at an altitude of 30 km the temperature is -46,64. lol
        1. saturn.mmm 23 July 2012 10: 21 New
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          Quote: Professor
          but at an altitude of 30 km the temperature is -46,64.

          And which US fighters fly at an altitude of 30 km?
          Well, I think that the Americans will solve this issue, as I understand it, if they themselves can’t cope, then they need an alternative supplier to Norway, is it interesting that Israel could poke in this role?
          Each has its own "Mace".
          1. Professor 23 July 2012 10: 34 New
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            interestingly Israel could poke in this role?

            It is quite possible that Israel provides itself with air-to-air missiles.
          2. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 10: 54 New
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            Quote: saturn.mmm

            And which US fighters fly at an altitude of 30 km?

            Mig-31 flies, although it is better to answer this question Sergey waf.
            1. VAF
              VAF 23 July 2012 12: 09 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              MiG-31 flies


              Alexander, here the question is not very correct, because the concept ... flies ... very .. inextensible.

              There are practical, static and dynamic ceilings of an airplane flight and each is achieved under certain conditions.

              Almost 25 went freely Mig-25 PD, PDM, PDMS, PDMSL, RB-ki up to 28 could .. carefully, without unnecessary maneuvers.

              On the 31st to 25th it’s generally easy, to 28 ... normal (with weight reduction), but on the 30th ... well, very neat.



              Although Fedotov climbed to 35 thousand, but he will be intoxicated under certain conditions.

              Well, the Amer SR-71



              and U-2.



              Now a very high altitude is not critical, because air defense equipment .. reach easily ... only near space .. remains wink

              I ask forum users not to be confused with the M-55, although it can also be used (and was used) to intercept high-altitude reconnaissance balloons - a constant headache for our air defense.

              1. Alexander Romanov 23 July 2012 12: 13 New
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                Sergey, the picture looks like a blackbird, but haven’t it been written off?
                1. VAF
                  VAF 23 July 2012 13: 59 New
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                  Quote: Alexander Romanov

                  Sergey, the picture looks like a blackbird, but haven’t it been written off?


                  Alexander, amers, unlike us ... they don’t write off anything, but they are taken to the reserve and canned!
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                    Eugene 23 July 2012 14: 05 New
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                    Well, I really wouldn’t be afraid of them :) Americans back in the 70s realized that these birds were vulnerable to our air defense systems, since then they only removed papuses, provocations in the Far East in the 80s were pure provocations, and then they stopped with the advent of the MiG-31.
              2. Vito
                Vito 23 July 2012 18: 09 New
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                vaf (1)A GREAT shot with a MIG.
                ABOVE ONLY THE SUN !!! I am shocked FRIEND!
            2. saturn.mmm 23 July 2012 12: 37 New
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              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Mig-31 flies, although it is better to answer this question Sergey waf.

              Mig-31 is not a US fighter. Mig-31 is a wonderful aircraft but even it does not fly at an altitude of 30 km. If not mistaken, there were 23 km jumps.
              If that Sergey vaf corrects.
              1. Eugene
                Eugene 23 July 2012 12: 39 New
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                The practical ceiling is a little over 20, and along a parabolic trajectory it will probably be higher, but it is better to wait for Sergey.

                Oh Sergey, I answered above already.
  7. Magadan 23 July 2012 10: 06 New
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    So, judging by the post of Professor (see above), engines will be purchased in Norway. Well, there they still hope to bring their own to mind by the end of 2012. I wonder where the US spends its $ 500 billion annually, if they have such shoals?
    Once again I ask fans of the American military-industrial complex: with such an amount of annually allocated dough for the army, which really has achieved the vaunted American defense industry with its vaunted private defense industry?
    I really hope that all the same, they will think up above and not begin to copy an openly loser system built in the image of the American military-industrial complex!
    1. Professor 23 July 2012 10: 14 New
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      I will answer you not as a fan of the US military-industrial complex, but as an outside observer. Want to see where the money goes? Here you have a vantage point of the Virginia submarine, UAV Predator, KR Tomahawk and the aircraft carrier George W. Bush ...

      I want to remind you how not the "loser" defense industry of the USSR destroyed the empire from the inside!
      1. Denzel13
        Denzel13 25 July 2012 02: 19 New
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        Do not pretend to be a professor - "... not as a fan of the US military-industrial complex ..." - this is not from your opera.
  8. aksakal 23 July 2012 10: 28 New
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    Quote: Magadan
    I really hope that all the same, they will think up above and not begin to copy an openly loser system built in the image of the American military-industrial complex!
    - Magadan, welcome! I agree here. Yes, the Russian military-industrial complex lags behind in some important positions, but it lags behind in the crisis - things are deeply different. The crisis is characterized by an inability to take new peaks, or even a rollback from already conquered positions. The Russian military-industrial complex demonstrates the ability to take new heights, the only difference is that other military-industrial complex have been there before (well, for example, with UAVs or thermal imagers). Some failures are simply due to the fact that the military-industrial complex has not yet departed from the hungry 90s. If you figuratively compare, then they pulled out the dystrophic from Auschwitz, put in front of him a complete dish of besbarmak (or matzo, someone like smile) and demand that tomorrow would be a pitching. A digestion in the light of the changed diet to restore? A debug on a new metabolism? It is clear that a long restorative diet is needed. But the Russian military-industrial complex is not in crisis, that's for sure. And copying the Amer’s system here means implanting the same sores, then the United States. Only due to the lack of so many green pieces of paper all this will pop out much earlier and hit harder. Magagdan, plus you
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    scrack 23 July 2012 10: 54 New
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    I wish them to fly on a broomstick, and not on airplanes so that they would not bomb anyone