Why the S-300 does not protect Syria from Israeli aviation: reflections and versions

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Back in 2018, Russia transferred Syria S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria to strengthen the country's air defense. However, until now, the territory of Syria has been bombarded by Israeli aviation, moreover, the loss of the Israeli Air Force during attacks on Damascus is not reported.

Another incident with the Syrian air defense occurred on February 6. Four Israeli F-16 fighters without entering Syrian airspace attacked the suburbs of Damascus. Syria’s air defense systems were hit in response and were nearly shot down by a civilian Airbus A-320 that was landing at the airport in Damascus on a Tehran-Damascus flight (there were 172 people on board). Only thanks to the skill of the dispatchers who transferred the board to the alternate aerodrome did catastrophe escape.



Israeli Air Force regularly shell Syria. But what about the Russian S-300?

After all, the question inevitably arises: why did Russia supply them to Syria if Israeli aviation continues to strike both at Damascus and the Iranian military located on Syrian territory, and effective air defense systems are silent? Reflections and versions on this subject are presented below.

Opinions regarding the fate of the Russian S-300 in Syria differ. Thus, Australian expert Richard Frank claims that the Israeli army has learned to bypass Russian anti-aircraft missile systems. But this statement, most likely, is not true, and is intended only to convince a Western audience of the low quality of Russian weapons.

The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied. If Syrian air defense crashes an Israeli plane in the sky above Lebanon and does not intrude into Syrian airspace, Damascus will be exposed as an aggressor, which is what it needs least of all in the current political situation.


In addition, landscape and geographical factors play a role. Israeli planes strike at Syrian territory usually from the Bekaa Valley, covered from all sides by mountains. They literally unexpectedly appear from behind mountain ranges and just as quickly hide, while managing to hit targets on Syrian territory. And, as our Israeli readers often write: "IDF pilots are already drinking coffee at air bases, and Syrian crews are still looking for targets in the sky."

Another version that is often considered in the media is the insufficient level of qualification of Syrian troops to service such complex anti-aircraft missile systems as the S-300. Although during the time that has passed since the delivery of the SAM system to Damascus, it was quite possible to retrain the officers of the Syrian air defense forces to work on new anti-aircraft missile systems.


Much more interesting is the version that the S-300s were unsuccessfully located in the mountains, which created significant obstacles to their effective operation. As a result of such an unfortunate location, Israeli electronic warfare aircraft were able to fly close to the Syrian air defense system and interfere, after which Israeli aircraft attacked Syrian targets.

Thus, most likely, the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems against Israeli aircraft, striking Syrian soil from Lebanon, are currently simply not used. And to evaluate the effectiveness or inefficiency of their combat employment in this regard is simply meaningless. Moreover, the use of Russian complexes against Israeli aviation is not only a military and technical issue, but also a political one, and Russia, as you know, claims special relations not only with Syria, but also with Israel, declaring the existence of existing military communication channels.
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  1. +36
    7 February 2020 14: 09
    There were no commands from the General Staff, so they did not shoot down.
    1. +9
      7 February 2020 14: 41
      Quote: Bearded
      There were no commands from the General Staff, so they did not shoot down.
      They hit the Iranians in Syria, and why does Iran not react? Iran has all the possibilities, it has Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Hezbollah can plant 100 Mujahideen with any MANPADS, there are THESE KROKODAYLI LITAUT, SOME ABOUT THE SWAMP. In Yemen, Iran’s F-16s were shot down by Iranian MANPADS. Husits ​​shot down an F-16 coalition fighter led by Saudi Arabia over the capital of Yemen, Sanaa. It is reported by Al-Masdar News with reference to a military source. According to the publication, the fighter made an air attack. Https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201706082103-5coq.htm. If Iran does not respond, why should Russia respond
      1. +13
        7 February 2020 19: 37
        Hezbollah represents only a third of the Lebanese population. The rest are not going to fight with Israel over Iran and Assad. In Russia, half of the billionaires have Israeli citizenship and Putin can not ignore this
        1. +11
          7 February 2020 23: 31
          In Russia, half of the billionaires have Israeli citizenship and Putin can not ignore this


          Hmm. Clear, simple and clear. Putin is a dummy, a puppet in the hands of Jewish billionaires, not a "tough kid", a disperser of oligarchs. So what? Or will we diplomatically say "cannot but be considered"?

          And yes, the "Jewish citizenship" of billionaires is unnecessary.
          They are all the same.
        2. -9
          8 February 2020 23: 46
          With Putin is considered billionaires !?))) This is the Russian Defense Ministry to death is afraid of contacting the Israeli Defense Ministry! Nobody has forgotten the slaughter of 1982! Operation Artsuv-19.
          1. 0
            13 February 2020 20: 24
            This is when the Jews washed themselves with blood.
            1. 0
              3 March 2020 07: 18
              No, this is when the Syrians washed themselves with blood, and in the Kremlin they simply lost their speech ability.
        3. +1
          9 February 2020 10: 43
          This is the most important reason. For some reason, he always forgets that we have a capitalist state. Therefore, the capitalists are in power
      2. 0
        9 February 2020 21: 00
        The only way out is to launch rocket attacks on Israeli territory in response. Assad hardly has such missiles.
        1. 0
          13 February 2020 20: 32
          Put the S-300 in Palestine and the Jews will immediately feel the effectiveness.
          1. -1
            3 March 2020 07: 20
            Such a state does not exist, and the Jews have already felt the inefficiency of the S-300 in Syria.
    2. +30
      7 February 2020 15: 35
      Why the S-300 does not protect Syria from Israeli aviation: reflections and versions


      probably because Putin and Netanyah are more friends than Putin with Assad.
    3. +40
      7 February 2020 16: 01
      They literally unexpectedly appear from behind mountain ranges and just as quickly hide, managing to hit targets on Syrian territory.

      And what is the problem? Place a solid electronic warfare field near the Lebanese Mountains so that aircraft avionics does not work properly.
      But the degree of non-touch of Israeli aircraft is directly proportional to the Jewish influence on the Kremlin.
      1. +23
        7 February 2020 23: 42
        Quote: lucul
        They literally unexpectedly appear from behind mountain ranges and just as quickly hide, managing to hit targets on Syrian territory.

        And what is the problem? Place a solid electronic warfare field near the Lebanese Mountains so that aircraft avionics does not work properly.
        But the degree of non-touch of Israeli aircraft is directly proportional to the Jewish influence on the Kremlin.

        The Lebanese mountains are not a panacea. Israel launched strikes from both Jordanian and Iraqi airspace. The nastiest thing is that Israel disguises its strikes under the sides of other planes in the sky, deliberately exposing them to the attack of the Syrian air defense. Anyway, for such "pranks" they deserve to be shipped with high quality and sensitiveness in a sly face.
        1. +6
          8 February 2020 00: 27
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Anyway, for such "pranks" they deserve to be shipped with high quality and sensitiveness in a sly face.

          When will the liberation of Russia from Zionism come, how long?
          1. +6
            8 February 2020 08: 41
            Quote: kiril1246
            When will the liberation of Russia from Zionism come, how long?

            The population of Russia is about 140 mil
            Jews about 140 thousand
            0,1% of the population governs the country
            THIS IS YOUR ASSESSMENT AND NOT MY, AND MAY BE A PROBLEM IN ANOTHER PLACE?
          2. +2
            8 February 2020 17: 05
            And then, when we come to vote with all the people, to sweep these out of power. The people - the power of the people!
            1. 0
              8 February 2020 22: 57
              Quote: NordUral
              And then, when we come to vote with all the people, to sweep these out of power. The people - the power of the people!

              It's time for Meehan as president
          3. 0
            10 February 2020 06: 27
            according to the Tale of Bygone Years, “Kiyans, however, have plundered the court of Putyatin, the thousandth, idosh of the Jews and I have plundered.”
            1113 year. What's the use?
            1. +2
              10 February 2020 06: 30
              ahem ... I understand everything: scum, political correctness, universal people, but in the annals was the name of the Jews in the letter w! Kindly correspond!
              1. 0
                10 February 2020 19: 07
                Quote: phair
                ahem ... I understand everything: scum, political correctness, universal people, but in the annals was the name of the Jews in the letter w! Kindly correspond!

                And let's hang up a poster "All ... to Israel"
        2. -1
          11 February 2020 22: 37
          My friend! The Russian army looks cool .. in parades! Soviet looked no worse at the May parade of 1941! And then the detachments barely stopped!
          1. +2
            11 February 2020 23: 12
            Quote: Python 57
            My friend! The Russian army looks cool .. in parades! Soviet looked no worse at the May parade of 1941! And then the detachments barely stopped!
            Well, if the "friend" writes so fluently in Russian, was it not in these "foreign detachments" that his grandfather stood eating stew, who told the "friend" all the "truth" about the war? Not? Or maybe this "friend" is one of those who left the Russian Federation in the direction of the Promised Land and now considers it his duty to add a fly in the ointment everywhere to any part of the history of Russia, obviously forgetting about who saved his grandparents from the concentration camps of enlightened Europe by extinguishing the crematorium furnaces? Not? Well, if this "friend" is from the country of unprecedented "peremogi", then why did this friend forget about the fact that in the period 1941-1945 his grandfather and grandmother lived in the USSR and his relatives also fought against the Germans? Not? Although this is certainly not a fact. Maybe they sat in caches and "banderized" slowly firing at Poles, Jews, Russians and Ukrainians who did not support the OUN UPA and refused to fight for Nazi Germany? May be. Then yes, you are not involved in the advice. Only now those who come from the country of "successful peremoga" have problems with expressing their thoughts in Russian, which cannot be said about you "friend". So I'm more inclined to think that the "friend" still speaks Hebrew well. And yet, yes, "friend", how did it happen that the Soviet army "dodged" since 1941, breaking the spine of the "invincible" German army, liberating a dozen European states along the way, which now, like you, suffer amnesia and Russophobia? Maybe it wasn't necessary? Let the stoves burn? You see, today would Israeli soldiers not participate in European exercises shoulder to shoulder with the Germans with the theme of the exercises - "the capture of the Russian village"? Do not hurt (those) "friend"
          2. +1
            13 February 2020 20: 52
            But the Zionist gang looks cool when it disperses Palestinian children with tanks and sticks in tanks and planes.
          3. 0
            8 March 2020 19: 19
            Python, what a brave you are sitting warm in front of a computer! And, most likely, after June 22, 1941, they would have been so dragged away from the Germans that no detachments could not keep them.
            Alexander Malchukov.
        3. -1
          3 March 2020 07: 23
          You repeat the nonsense of MORPH. Even the Russian pilots themselves laugh at this stupid invention. In MORPHE, they could not even come up with some plausible excuse for their helplessness and rotoriousness.
    4. 0
      7 February 2020 19: 16
      And what are they doing at the general staff? The news is bad.
    5. +9
      7 February 2020 20: 03
      At the General Staff, 6.7 billion were lost, they are looking for, now it is not up to the teams. Landing on the horizon.
    6. +1
      8 February 2020 16: 40
      and don’t do it - partners elite wallet
    7. -1
      10 February 2020 09: 12
      Of course. Russia does not fight with Israel. And C300 is controlled only by Russian operators. Matches for children are not a toy, there are already many examples.
  2. +16
    7 February 2020 14: 13
    Because passive defense does not work. Never. The drummers hide behind the relief and launch rockets, often without leaving because of the radio horizon. Once the carriers cannot be hit, they will return again and again and eventually destroy the targets. Without drills and fighters, the dilemma is unsolvable.

    Plus, they fly through Lebanon, and from the Lebanese border to Damascus at hand.
    1. +23
      7 February 2020 14: 19
      So Lebanon doesn’t seem to be Israel yet - what kind of territory is it where the Jews graze without muzzles it would be time for ...!
      1. +3
        7 February 2020 14: 45
        There is an old saying "Fear the anger of patient people." And patience can burst at any moment and then neither howling, nor stench, nor tears and not overseas partners will save them (they will most likely be the first to betray in this situation). Penguinostan always betrays everyone and everything, if something is not beneficial to him.
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        2. +8
          8 February 2020 11: 50
          And what will patient people do? More IL-20 down? No pity?
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 14: 53
            new meme: "patient people". "polite" ran out
            1. +1
              10 February 2020 19: 46
              This is not a new meme. These are synonyms.
          2. +1
            10 February 2020 19: 52
            Everything that we see on the surface does not mean anything yet. Yes, and the Internet zhurnalushliushki strongly powder their brains, and especially the lovers of "penguins" - sorosos. I am already silent about the "chosen" ... "inventors of reality". To understand where at least a particle of truth lies, you need to clean up so much internet rubbish that mom don't worry.
    2. +5
      7 February 2020 14: 32
      Not just a layered system. Some C300 will not do the weather
      1. +12
        7 February 2020 14: 46
        Quote: 210ox
        Some C300 will not do the weather

        Why sell it? They would have pulled once for decency. 1-2 Jewish planes shot down by Jews will frighten. And you can always refer to the Syrian calculations by the Jewish analogy.
        1. +2
          7 February 2020 17: 10
          It is necessary to beat them not in the sky, but at the airport, let Iran give them rockets, destroy ten aircraft on the ground and then they will be calmer.
          1. +6
            8 February 2020 03: 41
            This is exactly what they are waiting for. According to Kisinger, Israel should already cease to exist by now ... that will trigger big changes. And most of these changes are unlikely to please.
            There is a difficult game. And Russia itself is unlikely to be more interesting to have instead of Israel in Palestine, Khazaria in the Ukrainian steppes.
            For Russia, the existence of Israel is much more profitable than such an alternative.
            Have you ever wondered why Stalin created this state?
            Contrary to and contrary to the opinion of Britain and the USA?
            And all these raids and bombings, of course, are very, very annoying ... It’s like shelling by the Donbass ukrovermahtm.
            But for now, an unstable equilibrium is more advantageous than a large stable war.
            And Iran itself is not in a hurry, in a hurry to succumb to provocations. Its activity in the region is caused not by its own ambitions, but by the interests of China - it is with Chinese money that Iran creates a Shiite corridor for the Silk Road through Afghanistan - Iran - Iraq - Syria to Mediterranean ports ... And this is the second scenario, which also can not do us too much to please.
            There is a game that requires iron nerves.
            1. -1
              3 March 2020 07: 27
              Wow. With a smart look, write such garbage.
      2. 0
        8 February 2020 10: 02
        The whole point of the article in the sentence!
  3. +6
    7 February 2020 14: 16
    And why accidentally the S-300 missile did not fly into Lebanon and accidentally did not bring down the F 16 ??? Purely hypothetically !!!
    1. +1
      7 February 2020 14: 20
      because there was no team
      1. +3
        8 February 2020 14: 56
        yeah, from local theorists
    2. +2
      8 February 2020 18: 37
      Let’s beat, be sure Let’s beat .. but, then. ;)
  4. +4
    7 February 2020 14: 20
    Trunks are silent when politicians speak. I think this is the case. The whole world is in ruins ... apparently our leaders are smarter!
  5. -6
    7 February 2020 14: 24
    Four Israeli F-16 fighters without entering Syrian airspace attacked the suburbs of Damascus. Syria’s air defense missile systems were hit in response and were nearly shot down by a civilian Airbus A-320 that was landing at the airport in Damascus on the Tehran-Damascus flight (there were 172 people on board).

    And this is not the first time that Jews attacking Syria by hiding in a foreign plane, provoking its air defense.
    The Jews will "play out". Probably they think that Russia will forgive them the IL-20. No, we remember everything. the time will come and we will "present" the bills. You will answer us for the 1917 revolution. We'll uproot you !!! am
    1. +20
      7 February 2020 14: 34
      Have you not forgiven? Putin visited Israel not so long ago ...
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        1. +22
          7 February 2020 14: 56
          Well, I can give an example of Turkish tomato .. And the people ... So everything is in the kitchens and smoking rooms. And those, in short, who do not forgive, are already passing away. And the youth do not care deeply for what, how and where our soldiers are fighting. To my deep regret.
          1. -4
            7 February 2020 15: 13
            Quote: 210ox
            Well, I can give an example of Turkish tomato .. And the people ... So everything is in the kitchens and smoking rooms.

            In vain, just not the time yet. Either they mostly sit in the government of the country, as they do now, then they will come up with something else "tolerant" (ugh you, what a dirty word), but the time will come and it will be possible to pay them back in full. Maybe we will not live up to the point, the reckoning will overtake them anyway. Yes angry
            1. +22
              7 February 2020 15: 16
              Don’t tell me. With each passing year, our people are deliberately uprooted from what makes us Russians.
              1. -1
                7 February 2020 15: 23
                Quote: 210ox
                Don’t tell me. With each passing year, our people are deliberately uprooted from what makes us Russians.

                And this will come to their account. Yes
              2. +2
                8 February 2020 01: 19
                Quote: 210ox
                not tell me. With each passing year, our people are deliberately uprooted from what makes us Russians.

                When they did Soviet yes, maybe. And now it's a sin to blame.
          2. 0
            8 February 2020 01: 17
            Quote: 210ox
            Well, I can give an example of Turkish tomato ..

            By the way, the domestic greenhouse economy rose well due to sanctions on Turkish tomatoes.
        2. +8
          7 February 2020 17: 02
          Quote: K-50
          Jews will be waiting for a terrible tsimes (so it seems at them). Tryndets in our opinion.

          Let's clarify, look at the etymology of the word in its original meaning.
          “This is the whole cimus,” as they usually say, to emphasize the significance, the value of something. Perhaps the most accurate analogue of the above phrase can be called “That’s all the gusto,” after all, "tsimus" (the most often used, but not the most accurate version of this word) - comes from the name of the festive Jewish food tsimes. Tsimes is a Yiddish word, partly Germanic, "zum essen", that is, a side dish for a meat dish, but essentially a stew of carrots.

          Sometimes two letters m are written in the word cymes: cimemes. This is probably due to the English spelling of the word - tzimmes (tsimmes). It is very curious, by the way, that the English also put a figurative meaning in this word, but it is completely different than us. They call vanity, noise, mess and hash - probably due to the appearance of the dish.

          So what did you, colleague, mean? Is it really an "English" option !?
          However, I note: vanity and Tryndets are different-ranking concepts. In my opinion, tryndets is much worse ... lol
          AHA
      2. -3
        7 February 2020 15: 15
        Quote: 210ox
        Have you not forgiven? Putin visited Israel not so long ago ...

        For now it’s possible they’ve forgiven, but if you can remember anything.
      3. +4
        7 February 2020 23: 15
        Quote: 210ox
        Have you not forgiven? Putin visited Israel not so long ago ...

        Stalin also smiled at Churchill. He met with him .. A call on duty, artificial smiles, false assurances of friendship .... Politics ... Hard and dirty work.
    2. -12
      7 February 2020 15: 11
      Quote: K-50

      And this is not the first time that Jews attacking Syria by hiding in a foreign plane, provoking its air defense.

      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/02/07/no_plane/
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 17: 17
        Aron, we know the price of information published by the "new rag" and we know the price of information from the RF Ministry of Defense based on facts.
        1. If Airbas 320 with 172 passengers was not on board, then what did the dispatchers put on our lane in Khmeimim?
        2. Referring to the schedule without requesting information about the actual situation in the area of ​​responsibility from the dispatchers of Damascus AP is the same as going to visit, knowing for sure that the owners are not at home!
        (Fake of the highest limit. Liberal international in action!)
        1. -5
          7 February 2020 17: 28
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Aron, we know the price of information published by the "new rag" and we know the price of information from the RF Ministry of Defense based on facts.
          1. If Airbas 320 with 172 passengers was not on board, then what did the dispatchers put on our lane in Khmeimim?
          2. Referring to the schedule without requesting information about the actual situation in the area of ​​responsibility from the dispatchers of Damascus AP is the same as going to visit, knowing for sure that the owners are not at home!
          (Fake of the highest limit. Liberal international in action!)

          There was an undeclared plane. A private Syrian company that is quietly serving the IRGC. In principle, whether or not you believe only you. There are facts and they are against the theory of MORF.
          1. +7
            7 February 2020 18: 34
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            There are facts and they are against the theory of MORF

            Respected! And what, in fact, does not suit you in the information of the Ministry of Defense? What is not true in it?
            Was the plane? - was! Was he put on Hmeimim? - planted! Is the plane civil? - civilian! Did you take him from Damascus airport by order of the dispatchers? -- exactly! All this happened under the fire of Hel Avir aircraft? -- exactly!
            And what is against the theory of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / does not correspond to the truth / ???
            1. 0
              7 February 2020 19: 26
              Quote: BoA KAA
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              There are facts and they are against the theory of MORF

              Respected! And what, in fact, does not suit you in the information of the Ministry of Defense? What is not true in it?
              Was the plane? - was! Was he put on Hmeimim? - planted! Is the plane civil? - civilian! Did you take him from Damascus airport by order of the dispatchers? -- exactly! All this happened under the fire of Hel Avir aircraft? -- exactly!
              And what is against the theory of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / does not correspond to the truth / ???

              Yes, it’s as if someone was hiding behind a plane that was not even in the area of ​​impact. It even breaks through some of your generals.
              https://vz.ru/news/2020/2/7/1022513.html
              1. +3
                7 February 2020 21: 45
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Yes, it’s as if someone was hiding behind a plane that was not even in the area of ​​impact. It even breaks through some of your generals.
                Aron, this general has been in reserve since 2007. But the current ones stigmatize the actions of your Air Force and emphasize that this is not an isolated case and that the tragedy did not happen thanks to the foresight of the dispatchers.
                Ibid.
                Sergey Khatylev, the former head of the anti-aircraft missile forces of the Special Forces Command of the Russian Air Force, believes that this incident is not the first example of the use of civilian aircraft by the Israeli Air Force for cover.
                more...
                Lieutenant General, former head of the Air Force anti-aircraft missile forces of the Russian Federation Alexander Gorkov also believes that such a method of action as covering civilian planes from air defense actions is already typical of Israeli military aircraft.

                But for you, our inappropriately ours, everything came down only to the benefits of you, the Jews, examples and statements.
                This is propaganda! not facts.
                1. -3
                  7 February 2020 22: 06
                  Quote: BoA KAA
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  Yes, it’s as if someone was hiding behind a plane that was not even in the area of ​​impact. It even breaks through some of your generals.
                  Aron, this general has been in reserve since 2007. But the current ones stigmatize the actions of your Air Force and emphasize that this is not an isolated case and that the tragedy did not happen thanks to the foresight of the dispatchers.
                  Ibid.
                  Sergey Khatylev, the former head of the anti-aircraft missile forces of the Special Forces Command of the Russian Air Force, believes that this incident is not the first example of the use of civilian aircraft by the Israeli Air Force for cover.
                  more...
                  Lieutenant General, former head of the Air Force anti-aircraft missile forces of the Russian Federation Alexander Gorkov also believes that such a method of action as covering civilian planes from air defense actions is already typical of Israeli military aircraft.

                  But for you, our inappropriately ours, everything came down only to the benefits of you, the Jews, examples and statements.
                  This is propaganda! not facts.

                  He is a professional who has not yet sold his professional conscience. That's why I believe him.
                  1. +4
                    8 February 2020 10: 39
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    therefore I believe him.

                    Questions of faith are not discussed here. But there is something in your position.
    3. -7
      7 February 2020 15: 48
      Quote: K-50
      And this is not the first time that Jews attacking Syria with someone else’s plane hiding behind

      there aren’t enough planes for covers
      Attacks on Syria in 2013-2019, carried out by the IDF or attributed to the Israeli army

      (the list may be incomplete and inaccurate; IDF retaliatory strikes against terrorist groups in Syrian territory are not taken into account)

      2019 year

      24 August. The Israel Defense Forces press service published a report according to which the IDF Air Force struck targets in the village of Aqraba, located southeast of the Syrian capital. The attack was directed against fighters of the Al-Quds Force of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and militants of the Shiite armed groups, supported by Iran, who were preparing a terrorist attack against Israeli targets.

      August 15. Syria announced the reflection of a missile strike on a target in the area of ​​Masyaf.

      August 1. The SANA agency reported an IDF missile strike on a target west of Kuneitra.

      July 24th. The Syrian state agency SANA reported that the IDF has hit a target in the province of Daraa in the south of the country.

      July 1. According to a statement by the Syrian Ministry of Defense, IDF airplanes and Israeli Navy ships launched rocket attacks on targets in the vicinity of Damascus, as well as in Homs. Numerous casualties and dozens of injured are reported. Caused significant damage to military installations. One of the Syrian air defense missiles fell on the territory of Northern Cyprus.

      12 June. The Syrian state agency SANA reported that the IDF launched a missile strike on a target in the area of ​​the settlement of Tel al-Hara (Daraa province).

      June 3rd. Damascus claims the IDF attacked targets at the T4 military airfield, east of Homs. According to SOHR, the warehouses and military bases of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps were attacked, at least five were killed.

      2 June. In response to the shelling of Israeli territory, the IDF struck military targets in Syria. The IDF air force attacked several military installations of the Syrian army: two artillery batteries, a number of observation and reconnaissance posts and an air defense battery SA-2. SANA reports three Syrian military personnel killed and seven wounded. SOHR says the IDF also attacked Iranian and Hezbollah targets south of Damascus.

      May 27th. In response to the shelling of an IDF aircraft located in Israeli airspace, a strike was inflicted on an air defense installation in the Kuneitra region. The Syrian military reported that a soldier was killed in the attack and two more were injured. SOHR announces two killed Syrian troops.

      May 18th. Syrian media and SOHR report another IDF strike on targets south of Damascus.

      May 17. Syrian state media reported several rockets fired from Israel by Quneitra. SOHR claims there were at least three explosions southwest of Damascus, where Hezbollah and pro-Iranian militia bases are located.

      April 13. Syrian state media reported strikes on a target in the Masyaf area west of Hama. According to the Syrian opposition, the Hezbollah base was attacked. Buildings destroyed and six injured were reported.

      March 27th. Syrian state media reported attacks on the military airfield and Sheikh Najar industrial area near Aleppo. The SANA news agency wrote that, presumably, this is an attack carried out by the Israeli Air Force.

      February 11th. Syrian state media say IDF tanks fired at targets in Quneitra province. Unofficial Syrian sources report that the attacks were carried out on Hezbollah positions both from the ground and from the air. The fact of the strike was confirmed by the Israeli leadership.

      January 21. The IDF inflicted a massive attack on the facilities of the Iranian armed forces in the vicinity of Damascus, in addition, Syrian air defense was attacked, trying to interfere with the actions of the Israeli Air Force. Caused significant damage. SOHR reports dozens of killed Syrian and Iranian military.

      January 20th. Damascus and Moscow say the Israeli air force attacked targets near the airport near Damascus, but this attack was repelled by Syrian air defense. Israel does not comment on this information. Soon after reports of the attack, the Israeli missile defense system intercepted a missile launched from Syria.

      January 12th. Syrian media report an attack on objects in the vicinity of Damascus and in Kisoua. According to SANA, weapons depots were attacked. Opposition sources claim that Iranian cargo aircraft were eliminated at Damascus airport. On January 13, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed the attack on Iranian warehouses in Syria.




      full list http://www.newsru.co.il/mideast/25aug2019/syr_604.html
    4. 0
      8 February 2020 00: 29
      Quote: K-50
      Uproot you !!!

      That's right, beat the Zionists, save the VO.
    5. +11
      8 February 2020 05: 41
      Quote: K-50
      You will answer us for the 1917 revolution. Uproot you !!!


      It is disgusting to read empty and stupid threats towards Jews and Israel. Not only because it is all from chauvinism and anti-Semitism. But also because there is no revenge and cannot be. Unrealistic. Not possible. Let's just say: no more real than "taking revenge" on the Finns, Danes, Balts, or the same Chechens (of whom there are only a million). You can’t do anything against the Jews. With the emergence of Israel, Jews can effectively defend themselves, and all "non-lovers" of Jews, especially from countries where there are almost no Jews, have become ridiculous impotent clowns. laughing
    6. +4
      8 February 2020 08: 51
      Quote: K-50
      the time will come and we will "present" the bills.

      So already settled, how did you miss that ?,

    7. BVS
      +3
      8 February 2020 15: 31
      And YOU personally - "No, we remember everything. The time will come and we will" present "the bills. You will answer us for the 1917 revolution." can you? Do you personally make the decision? Can YOU personally do something? Most likely no. Then it is more appropriate to write differently - I remember, I will present the bill, etc.
    8. +5
      8 February 2020 21: 16
      Quote: K-50
      And this is not the first time that Jews attacking Syria by hiding in a foreign plane, provoking its air defense.


      As for me, if the Syrian air defense once again crashes an uncomplicated plane, this is purely a problem for the Syrians. Israelis flew in, shot at Iranian targets, flew away. Want to knock them down? Well, try it. In fact - it turns out badly. Israel knows what risks and is ready for losses. And I’m also ready to clear out all hostile air defense, as I have already done several times. And to spray with saliva that the Syrians are cool guys, only shoot at their own sometimes, when the Israelis fly by - why? laughing
    9. 0
      9 February 2020 13: 47
      What are you scarecrow stuffing?
    10. 0
      9 February 2020 13: 54
      The world has never seen such idiots
    11. 0
      10 February 2020 03: 17
      Quote: K-50
      Uproot you !!!

      Your like-minded people already tried 75 years ago. The bummer came out. Want to repeat it? By the way, with the upcoming Victory Day!
    12. -1
      3 March 2020 07: 30
      The ridiculous lie about the IL-20 for the excuse of the helplessness of the Russian military in Khmeimim can deceive only naive and incompetent lamers.
  6. -1
    7 February 2020 14: 27
    But was the last downed Israeli plane shot down over the territory of Israel itself? In any case, he fell, it seems, precisely in Israel.
    And somehow the accusation of aggression was treated
    Or I'm wrong?
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 17: 39
      Quote: Avior
      Or I'm wrong?

      Seems to be yes.
      Fell in Israel, was shot down over Syria as far as I remember.
      1. 0
        8 February 2020 22: 50
        As far as I remember, it was shot down over Israel. Syrian C200 missiles fell in both Israel and Jordan and Cyprus. And no one has blamed the Syrians for aggression. If the Syrians could, they would throw Lebanon with their missiles in the hope of getting into an Israeli fighter. Already something, but they have not experienced sentiment towards Lebanon which they occupied for more than 40 years.
  7. +8
    7 February 2020 14: 32
    Hello everyone! At the expense of thinking how to bring down planes that have flown out because of the humpback, it’s full. It is necessary to provide the ATS with the possibility of destroying base airfields and decision centers. Roughly, like the Iranian Yankees, only faster. After that, the raids will stop.
    1. +5
      7 February 2020 17: 31
      Quote: Nordic777
      It is necessary to provide the ATS with the possibility of destroying base airfields and decision centers.

      And this is a purely political decision. Remember that Putin promised Natenyakh when he was selling the S-300 to Syria. Then the Jews were seriously scared that the Syrians would crush their planes when taking off. Putin assured that this will not happen. Well, no.
      And the fact that Hel Avir strikes at Quds detachments and warehouses should be more of a concern to Iran, and not our MO. The main thing is that our facilities are not affected.
    2. -11
      7 February 2020 17: 41
      Let's not forget that Israel has approximately 300 nuclear warheads ...
      We’ll hit the base airfields, decision centers ..
      What will happen next, what do you think?
      1. +3
        8 February 2020 01: 33
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Let's not forget that Israel has approximately 300 nuclear warheads ...
        We’ll hit the base airfields, decision centers ..
        What will happen next, what do you think?

        Shaw! Israel has already caught up with China and France on nuclear weapons? belay Wow! And two years ago, Israel had only 80 nuclear weapons.
      2. 0
        8 February 2020 20: 09
        What will happen next, what do you think?

        I think if Israel uses nuclear weapons against the Russian Federation, it will be destroyed by retaliation in 5-7 minutes. You will not envy the surviving IDF forces after a strike, a coalition in the form of Syria, Iran and Iraq will clean them up in XNUMX hours
        After that, the state of Israel will cease to exist
        1. -3
          8 February 2020 20: 34
          Quote: stepka_razin
          I think if Israel uses nuclear weapons against the Russian Federation, it will be destroyed

          And what do hundreds of thousands of little girls and boys, children, old people, women who died from this blow think? Your family may be there ..
          They probably want to live. What do you think?
          Or think like in a computer game?)
          1. -1
            9 February 2020 05: 29
            And what do hundreds of thousands of little girls and boys, children, old people, women who died from this blow think? Your family may be there ..
            They probably want to live. What do you think?
            Or think like in a computer game?)

            And this is a respected Jewess you need to think before threatening the Russian Federation
            Let's not forget that Israel has approximately 300 nuclear warheads ...

            There will be losses in the Russian Federation, you will not be, no matter where you are in Israel, they will be destroyed, in the Russian Federation after the strike people will tear
            Good luck to you wink
            1. -1
              9 February 2020 05: 56
              Quote: stepka_razin
              And this is a respected Jewess you need to think before threatening the Russian Federation

              Actually, I am a Volga German and live in Russia. I think you have paranoia.
              I want to advise you to buy your brains and politeness. Through the screen you can see that you are missing these components. ) hi
              ps I also found it for you quickly on the Internet .:
              How to treat paranoia?
              antipsychotics - eliminate thinking disorders, defocus a person’s attention;
              antidepressants - normalize mood if symptoms of depression are expressed;
              tranquilizers - quickly eliminate anxiety, fear;
              sedatives - reassure a person, used to treat sleep problems.
              And don’t delay, go to the doctor on Monday morning!
        2. +2
          9 February 2020 00: 00
          Quote: stepka_razin
          I think if Israel uses nuclear weapons against the Russian Federation, it will be destroyed by retaliation in 5-7 minutes. You will not envy the surviving IDF forces after a strike, a coalition in the form of Syria, Iran and Iraq will clean them up in XNUMX hours
          After that, the state of Israel will cease to exist


          With what sick imagination Israel will use nuclear weapons against Russia ??? It is a weapon of deterrence and retaliation. Israel can turn into glass and radioactive ashes a dozen or two cities of millionaires, but only after perishing. Jews love life. Russians too. So, the apocalypse on both sides is unacceptable, and therefore canceled.
    3. 0
      3 March 2020 07: 32
      And the hernia will not come out of such efficiency?
  8. +5
    7 February 2020 14: 33
    Syrian air defenses shot down more than 30 cruise missiles and guided aerial bombs. Someone clearly "highlighted" these targets with the Syrian S-200.
    I would like to add one point - the complexes are not yet included in a single air defense system in Syria. They simply (in an INDIVIDUAL order) are not enough. for the number of missiles launched by the Israelis.
    1. +1
      7 February 2020 14: 56
      Quote: knn54

      Syrian air defense shot down more than 30 cruise missiles and guided bombs.

      is it only in the last air raid?
    2. -2
      7 February 2020 15: 49
      Quote: knn54
      Syrian air defense shot down more than 30 cruise missiles and guided bombs

      no evidence was provided
    3. +2
      7 February 2020 18: 42
      Well, the meaning of remedies if they do not provide protection? Why set if you were not going to include in a single system?
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    5. +4
      8 February 2020 11: 07
      quote = knn54] Syrian air defense shot down more than 30 cruise missiles and guided bombs. [/ quote]
      Missile seen in Cyprus

      The remnants of missiles in the SA saw

      But downed over 30 cruise missiles and guided bombs DID NOT SEE!
      But they read SANA, Sina and of course, kissel sets the tone for TV
      And as always EVERYTHING is very simple:
      “At the forefront of the air wave are trickery, such as IMI's ATALD (Advanced Tactical Air Launched Decoy & Aerial Target), to make the enemy believe they need to use "all that is possible and what is not" to repel an attack of this magnitude.
      This is, in fact, an autonomous drone launched from a fighter, its primary task is to create the largest possible number of plausible false targets on enemy radars. One "ATALD" can simulate an entire air link of fighters or cruise missiles on several radars simultaneously, adjusting to their range and giving false targets realistic behavior (maneuvering, evasion).
      The drone is insensitive to electronic warfare equipment, since it does not conduct radio intelligence, its main task is to "sparkle like a Christmas tree on New Year's Eve" and attract maximum attention. And its small size, radio-absorbing coverage and spatial spread of decoys make it a difficult target to intercept. "
      https://topwar.ru/62605-izrailskaya-otkryvashka-sistem-pvo.html
      HERE ABOUT THOSE OBLIGATED OBJECTIVES AND REPORT TO YOU laughing
      And you swallow it with joy.
    6. 0
      3 March 2020 07: 33
      S-200s are not capable of shooting down such targets.
  9. +2
    7 February 2020 14: 43
    Yes that's right. The strike on Lebanese airspace is, firstly, legally identical, and secondly, less effective than, for example, the Tochki-U strike on Israeli airfields. When you arrive at the airfields, the Israeli Air Force’s ability to spoil - they will cut themselves seriously and for a long time
    1. +6
      7 February 2020 14: 46
      Exactly!
      1. 0
        9 February 2020 09: 06
        That's right, but Syria doesn’t have a point, and Russia will not fight with Israel .. And in general, yes, when you take out the airfields, it won’t work out especially, this truth has been around for 100 years ..
    2. gmb
      -9
      7 February 2020 14: 52
      The plane is against air defense, and the missiles are against Pro, so it is still unknown on whose side there will be success
      1. +4
        7 February 2020 15: 16
        22 patriots have already been caught once by the Iraqi SCAD, released around Israel. They didn’t bring down. 22 missiles knocked down ONE! And the ancient one. This is not Point-U
        1. 0
          3 March 2020 08: 02
          What rubbish is this disinformation from?
    3. -16
      7 February 2020 14: 58
      When the OTRK arrives in Israel, the Israeli Air Force will visit Damascus with the destruction of a couple of buildings. Last time, in 1973, this is exactly what happened.
      1. -7
        7 February 2020 16: 16
        There will be an arrival in Israel, which is shot through from a machine gun through. And then the former territories of the cities are covered with salt - it was precisely the last time that the inadequate Jews did. Inadequate - punished.
        1. -13
          7 February 2020 16: 20
          Last time, when Jewish cities were destroyed, this required the power of the entire Roman Empire and the loss of a couple of legions. And then, the Jews continued to live on the territory of the Land of Israel.
          1. +8
            7 February 2020 16: 34
            Last time, a province in the desert resembling zero was multiplied by an expeditionary force. All the power of the Roman Empire - fought against Carthage, and some cigarette butts from the desert, who thought that because of their insignificance no one remembers about them, were crushed just walking so that they would not fuss under their feet laughing If they hadn’t hit the state support of terrorism, such as the Sykars, they would not have remembered about them — they are like flies, disgusting, but they are too lazy to spend energy on them
            1. -3
              7 February 2020 20: 26
              Yeah. Three years of the Great Uprising. Three years of the rebellion of Bar Kochba. The Jewish uprising in Cyrenaica, the uprising in Syria ... Legions from the whole empire were driven away. And by the way, where is that Rome now?
              1. +5
                7 February 2020 20: 35
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                And by the way, where is that Rome now?

                Everything is clear with Rome.
                But where is the Jewish people? Where are the Jews?
                It is impossible to seriously consider a crowd of goyim, gathered from around the world thread by string to Galilee, the Jewish people? This is a simulacrum of the Jewish people ...
                1. +1
                  7 February 2020 20: 55
                  And where are these Romans now?
                  1. +1
                    7 February 2020 22: 03
                    Where, where ... The ideological ancestors of the entire Western world? From the Holy Roman Empire in Germany, and its bits now to the principles of Roman law in general in jurisprudence everywhere? Tell me better. where are the greens with sykaria now? U-oops ...
                    More than that. with the Jews it’s probably not very much in the same row to put Moshe Dayan, Field Marshal Milch from the Third Reich and some rabbis from Poland of the 17th century ... Although everyone is Jewish ... And the same Roman eagles very often recalled different zigkhaili , something is left, though not the best part ...
                2. -4
                  7 February 2020 21: 33
                  And Jews are everywhere bully
              2. +6
                7 February 2020 20: 38
                Yes there are all great wars laughing
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Первая_Иудейская_война
                60 thousand Romans got along, they smeared 300 thousand troops of Jews like a forshmak on the sand, and in order not to get up twice - and another 600 thousand of their henchmen, for each Roman, 15 "great" ones turned out ...
                1. -4
                  7 February 2020 21: 35
                  60 thousand professional Roman soldiers against 300 thousand peasants with stakes and knives. Three years
                  1. +1
                    7 February 2020 22: 00
                    Well, I’m saying that then the peasants should sit in their kibbutzim and not curry themselves until they are filled with salt. There, in Syria, they are already very professional military men, they have been fighting for a long time, thanks to the common people that a bandit from ISIS caught up on their land. Finish with them - salt - you can find. Especially since there is a reason
                    1. 0
                      8 February 2020 00: 35
                      Quote: Cowbra
                      Finish with them - salt - you can find.

                      Comrade cow bra, you need to do something. Without you, the Zionists cannot be defeated.
                      1. +1
                        8 February 2020 08: 03
                        The Jewish Cossacks drove the whole history of the whole planet - from the Egyptians to the Holozad Petliurists ... They will cope once again, if they forgot the story - they will repeat it. this rule is this.
                      2. +2
                        8 February 2020 16: 53
                        Quote: Cowbra
                        from the Egyptians to the Holozady Petliurists ..

                        And where are those Egyptians? Gone. And the Petliurists in Israel wash the toilets, swear at the Jews, but they clean them with their teeth together (see the user under the nickname Maz).
                      3. 0
                        3 March 2020 08: 11
                        This is when they drove? In 1948? In 1956? In 1967? In 1973? In 1982? The campaign of the racers of the racers cracked for a long time, the hernia got out and the navel started.
    4. 0
      3 March 2020 07: 35
      Wow. The Syrian General Staff could not think of such a brilliant idea. But you are well done. As they say, you will not drink talent.
  10. +9
    7 February 2020 14: 45
    Ground-based radars S-300 simply do not see the enemy’s aircraft below the horizon. Those. Air defense without AWACS aircraft does not work.

    Plus the danger of shooting down civil aircraft of third countries in the airspace of Lebanon, from where Israeli air-to-ground missiles are launched.

    The way out is a massive delivery to Syria of the Pantsir air defense missile system with the Nails, designed to intercept attacking ammunition, not carrier aircraft.

    Israeli carrier aircraft must be shot down with the help of S-300 by the piece directly when landing at the base airfields in Israel, and without a difference they participated in a specific raid on Syria or not - let the Israelis themselves deal with this.
    1. +3
      7 February 2020 15: 12
      Quote: Operator
      Ground-based radars S-300 simply do not see the enemy’s aircraft below the horizon.

      The question has already been asked earlier: why were they delivered to Syria?
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 15: 21
        It is necessary to place a couple of Russian A-100s on the Khmeimim base (for round-the-clock external target designation for the Syrian S-300) and immediately everything will become tip-top laughing
        1. BVS
          0
          8 February 2020 15: 35
          I wonder how it is possible with two planes to provide a XNUMX-hour air patrol? Share this methodology!
          1. 0
            8 February 2020 15: 38
            Syria is small in area - therefore, while one AWACS aircraft is barrage in the air, the other is serviced on the ground, then they change among themselves.
            1. +2
              8 February 2020 23: 15
              Do you even understand what kind of money it is? He will not fly alone, but under the guise of an nth number of fighters. In addition, there is a chance that the valiant Syrian rocket launchers will stick a missile either into the flying radar or into escort fighters, during the next raid. Again there will be work for Konashenkov ...
        2. -1
          3 March 2020 08: 15
          You probably think that the Israelis on the S-300 will throw rolls. Keep in mind that not buns will fly to the S-300 but cobblestones. And the owners of the S-300, unlike you, understand this well. Because they do not rock the boat. In order not to spoil the image and future sales of S-300 to suckers not to disrupt.
    2. +11
      7 February 2020 15: 18
      If you shoot down only ammunition, then the strikes will never stop.
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 18: 10
        It depends on how you shoot down ... if at the loading stage it will be very effective together with the performers and organizers. That's just politically fraught with it.
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 23: 21
          It will be very painful and offensive to those who try to do this. Well, and accordingly, the entire military branch to which kamikaze belongs. wassat
        2. -1
          3 March 2020 08: 19
          This is not fraught with politics. This is fraught with war. 1982 (like the rest of the years) in the General Staff of the Republic of Armenia is not forgotten, and with one memory, the foreheads are covered with cold sweat and nerves begin to be naughty.
    3. +9
      7 February 2020 17: 43
      Quote: Operator
      Israeli carrier aircraft must be shot down with the S-300, individually, when landing at the base airfields in Israel,

      Colleague, you seriously underestimate the ability of Hel Avir to respond! In my opinion, it’s better to negotiate peace than to continue to escalate tensions between countries. Iran, too, he does not make sorties against Israel from his territory. So, we better not meddle in these yard disassembly. We have tasks much more serious than these troubles. Let us better remember our interests, and not take care of strangers. Moreover, Iran is just a fellow traveler, not an ally.
      IMHO.
      1. +5
        7 February 2020 18: 49
        Moreover, Iran is just a fellow traveler, not an ally.
        Gonna get the nerve to ask. And then who is Israel of Russia?
        1. +4
          7 February 2020 22: 40
          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          And then who is Israel of Russia?

          Partner. According to the leadership of the Russian Federation, it is a generally friendly country in which there are many Russian-speaking immigrants from the former Union, with whom we share common interests on many issues of modern politics.
          Something like that, I guess.
          1. +2
            8 February 2020 06: 20
            An interesting design is obtained! Syria is our ally, but Israel is a friend! Russia is now in the role of a monkey? Smart here, beautiful here. Monkey, why are you rushing around? Should I be torn? wassat
            1. -1
              8 February 2020 10: 38
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              Syria is our ally, but Israel is a friend! Russia is now in the role of a monkey?

              1. Do we really have an alliance agreement with Syria?
              2. Friendly relations with a partner. Where is the friend here?
              7. USSR / RF have never been a monkey. A bear - yes, a monkey - no.
              1. 0
                8 February 2020 15: 38
                Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Syrian Arab Republic on the deployment of an aviation group of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic (as amended on January 18, 2017)

                Guided by the provisions of the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the Syrian Arab Republic of October 8, 1980, as well as the Agreement between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Defense of the Syrian Arab Republic on military cooperation of July 7, 1994,

                At the request of the Syrian Party, the Russian Party shall deploy a Russian aviation group on the territory of the Syrian Arab Republic.
                There is no union agreement. Is our military just like that in Syria?
                1. +3
                  8 February 2020 15: 48
                  Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                  There is no union agreement. Is our military just like that in Syria?

                  My dearest! you are absolutely right:
                  1. union agreement - NO! For an allied treaty presupposes an armed defense of the territory and sovereignty of an ally as its own.
                  2. Do not confuse the Union Treaty and the Agreement on the deployment of troops (air groups) in the territory of the partner. This is the same as we rented a base for the Baltic Fleet from Finland before the war. And what, were the Finns our allies?
                  Therefore, do not be clever, learn better ... lessons!
    4. +2
      7 February 2020 18: 29
      Below the horizon?
      Then the question is: how are Jewish planes on target? Or do they bullet into the sky and the rocket itself is guided or even so there their plane drills flies somewhere? Maybe to start doing it?
      1. +3
        7 February 2020 18: 32
        The coordinates of the launch point, the flight path of the rocket and the coordinates of the target are determined by GPS.
      2. +1
        8 February 2020 10: 40
        Quote: mark2
        Then the question is: how are Jewish planes on target?

        Quote: mark2
        Maybe to start doing it?

        No
        First you need to read a lot. a lot of.
        Israeli "opener" air defense systems
        November 17, 2014

        https://topwar.ru/62605-izrailskaya-otkryvashka-sistem-pvo.html
        Today 2020 year!
    5. +4
      7 February 2020 19: 19
      Quote: Operator
      Ground-based radars S-300 simply do not see the enemy’s aircraft below the horizon. Those. Air defense without AWACS aircraft does not work.

      It will not work with AWACS either, because in order to defeat a radar’s target, a division’s radar must detect this target (using an external missile defense system), capture it, and accompany it before it hits a missile defense. If the radar does not see the target, it will not hit the missiles. If the target managed to disrupt the capture and go into the shaded sector before meeting with the missiles, the missiles will not hit it.
      This is not counting the SAM with ARLGSN - but it is unlikely that the Syrians have such wealth.
    6. +1
      9 February 2020 00: 38
      Quote: Operator
      Israeli carrier aircraft must be shot down with the help of S-300 by the piece directly when landing at the base airfields in Israel, and without a difference they participated in a specific raid on Syria or not - let the Israelis themselves deal with this.


      And everyone knows how to overcome the Zionists. And everything seems to be all right, looking at the theater from the sofa. All tips are good. But for some reason, nothing happens. And so since 1948. What's wrong? Are they smart or maybe Gd for them? wassat
    7. -1
      3 March 2020 07: 36
      The curvature of the Earth will not allow.
  11. -8
    7 February 2020 14: 47
    Israel is not long left behind. Until November 2020, after Trump's re-election. Pull the tail and crawl into the Eurasian Union.
    "Those who are not ours at all, those who are tenants in Ukraine! By God, not ours! They are not Jews at all: then the devil knows what. Something that only spit on him, and quit! So they will say the same. Is it not, Shlema, or you, Shmul? .. "(c) Gogol" Taras Bulba. "
    1. -1
      8 February 2020 00: 40
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Pull the tail and crawl into the Eurasian Union.

      IAO in the Middle East will be added to EAO in the Far East.
      1. +1
        8 February 2020 07: 20
        This is the least bloody scenario for Jews ... There is another, one from Henry Kissinger.
        1. -1
          9 February 2020 00: 17
          Quote: Tank jacket
          This is the least bloody scenario for Jews ... There is another, one from Henry Kissinger.

          very scary. it's so nice to dream about ripped Jewish feather-beds
    2. 0
      3 March 2020 07: 40
      Israel trumped up to Trump no less. So it's not Trump.
  12. +6
    7 February 2020 14: 49
    There are three big problems in the Syrian sky - it is not clear who is flying, or there is no order to shoot down, or "the Arabs will do it." There is also a specific addition to the situation - our situational "friendship" with Israel and, at the same time, situational patronage over its enemy
    1. +2
      7 February 2020 15: 10
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      it is not clear who is flying

      And has anyone else shot Israel from Lebanon in Syria? lol
      1. +4
        7 February 2020 15: 26
        Quote: victor50
        Quote: KVU-NSVD
        it is not clear who is flying

        And has anyone else shot Israel from Lebanon in Syria? lol

        The problem with Israeli strikes is not where they are firing from, but that they counteract them for show. There would be an order to shoot them down without warning, then they would fall off like winter crops in frost ... And they see them, and they can shoot them down, but there is no order ...
        1. +6
          7 February 2020 16: 22
          Victor, welcome hi
          Is an option possible the destruction of Israeli aircraft from the territory of Lebanon? Hezbollah Moget? I understand that air defense, as such, is not there ... But if the Hussites were shooting down in Yemen, then they could in Lebanon. Husits ​​were able to adapt explosive rockets for ground launchers. What is stopping Hezbollah from doing the same? They are afraid of escalation to their ter-ju, but after all, Israel periodically strikes at Lebanon.
          IMHO: Israel therefore beats at night, knowing that during the day, it is possible to run into.
          1. +2
            7 February 2020 17: 03
            Iran helps Hussites, because our tasks ... so far we have our own ... karma, damn it, one can be unlimited in life, others will not understand ... Hello to purebred Aborigines! .. Don’t be offended, your nickname is pulling you to snitch ..
            1. +4
              7 February 2020 17: 20
              So Lebanon, also in the sphere of Iran’s interests ... I think the point is in detection and guidance. Israel very tightly scans the ter-ue of Lebanon and the appearance of the radar, will cause an immediate reaction. Husits ​​were guided through optical channels. Probably this will not work at night. request
              Quote: KVU-NSVD
              Hello to purebred aborigines

              Yeah, very purebred. lol So much mixed up, mother do not grieve ... So far, only blacks and gypsies have not been found. And the Jews. Though... what
              1. +1
                7 February 2020 17: 28
                Why the Iranians do not shoot down is a question for the Iranians. BUT I WILL EXPRESS EVERYTHING THAT A CREDITAL THOUGHT IS TO FELL OUT THE ISRAELI AND TURKISH MILITARY BOARDS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEIR SHARES AT THE TIME WAS NECESSARY, BUT NOW ALREADY WALKED FISTS ...
                1. +4
                  7 February 2020 17: 36
                  Quote: KVU-NSVD
                  BUT NOW ALREADY A LATE WALKING FILES ...

                  So this is not we. Hezbollah. With the help of Iran. And yet, I think you can catch the Jews. When they get used to acting in the same way, they relax ... You can take advantage of this.
          2. +7
            7 February 2020 20: 03
            Gg once in the territory of Lebanon there was a powerful Syrian group of 5 air defense air defense brigades and aviation ... Operation Artsav-19 multiplied it by zero. No need to prioritize Israel. In that region at this stage it is the most combat-ready aircraft
            1. +4
              7 February 2020 20: 36
              Quote: Nehist
              No need not to rate Israel

              Nobody is going to. This is a one-time promotion. If the Israeli Air Force, go the same path, then you can prepare them a surprise.
              1. +2
                7 February 2020 20: 47
                Knowing the principles of Israel, I do not think that a one-time action will remain without consequences. And if the pilot dies, the consequences will be more than serious
          3. gmb
            0
            7 February 2020 21: 35
            Happy air defense see better, probably with my own eyes
          4. +1
            10 February 2020 03: 29
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Israel therefore beats at night, knowing that during the day, it is possible to run into.

            As you precisely noticed! At night, the radar sees worse than during the day! One feels the specialist is no worse than the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners!
            1. +5
              10 February 2020 11: 16
              Have you carefully read what I wrote?
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              Husits ​​were able to adapt explosive rockets for ground launchers. What is stopping Hezbollah from doing the same?

              Missiles were guided through the optical channel. Without radar.
              Quote: shahor
              One feels the specialist is no worse than the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners!

              I just turned with a question to a specialist ... But what kind of "specialist" are you? I dont know... request
        2. 0
          7 February 2020 16: 25
          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          And they see them, and they can bring down, but there is no order ...

          Why? request
          1. 0
            7 February 2020 17: 51
            Quote: victor50
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            And they see them, and they can bring down, but there is no order ...

            Why?

            Politics ... it's such a dirty thing. And all for the sake of their own interests ... But these very "interests" are understood by different strata of society in different ways, sometimes not in the way the leadership would like. request
            1. +2
              9 February 2020 01: 34
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              Quote: victor50
              Quote: KVU-NSVD
              And they see them, and they can bring down, but there is no order ...

              Why?

              Politics ... it's such a dirty thing. And all for the sake of their own interests ... But these very "interests" are understood by different strata of society in different ways, sometimes not in the way the leadership would like.


              The Syrians want to shoot down and there is an order, but they can’t. The Russians in Khmeimim do not want to bring down and there is no order, because there is mutual understanding: you do not touch us, but we do. That's the whole tricky layout.
        3. 0
          9 February 2020 16: 33
          But how could Il be shot down without an order, and then ^ a watermelon ^ was almost taken down?
  13. +6
    7 February 2020 14: 51
    to evaluate the effectiveness or inefficiency of their combat employment in this regard is simply meaningless. Moreover, the use of Russian complexes against Israeli aviation is not only a military and technical issue, but also a political one, and Russia, as you know, claims special relations not only with Syria, but also with Israel,

    when they rule politics, the military nervously \ calmly smoke aside.
    So it was, it is, it will always be so.
    1. +3
      7 February 2020 15: 21
      The S-300 is in service with the Syrian army and it is quite normal to use it to protect against air strikes. He was created for this.
      1. +3
        7 February 2020 17: 00
        Who will say what order their Pvoshniki received?
  14. +3
    7 February 2020 14: 53
    Israeli Air Force regularly shell Syria. What about Russian C-300?

    This is not Russian but Syrian S-300, made in Russia. Syrian crews are sitting on them, and teams come to them from the Syrian command.
    But if someone tries to attack the a / b Khmeinim, then the air defense systems will be Russian.
    Mr. Polonsky needs to feel the difference and use words more carefully. recourse
    1. -6
      7 February 2020 15: 52
      Quote: Amateur
      They are sitting on the Syrian calculations

      trained and received admission to independent duty from whom?
      Quote: Amateur
      they come from the Syrian command.

      but they don’t want to bring down
      1. +1
        7 February 2020 15: 55
        but they don’t want to bring down

        And how do I know what they want. And you do not know. But Israeli planes do not fly into Syrian airspace. Shoot either from the sea or from Lebanon
      2. +2
        8 February 2020 01: 07
        Quote: atalef
        but they don’t want to bring down

        Shy. What the Syrians, what the Iranians, how to launch a rocket, so immediately one liner in the world becomes smaller. Together with the S-300, they forgot to put on sewing machines so that the Arabs could change their hands on their shoulders.
  15. -2
    7 February 2020 14: 53
    Ilya, do you want to consider the option that the complexes can really hit the targets only after agreeing directly with Moscow? There is politics everywhere, and a strong Syrian army is also not only not profitable for many, it’s dangerous! And, besides the Turks, also, at least, the Israelis do not want to strengthen the Syrian army, and therefore they bombard its territory constantly. There is clearly a treaty under which there is a taboo on the defeat of Israeli military aircraft, say, in exchange for the non-expansion by Israel of bombing of certain territories of Syria.
  16. +11
    7 February 2020 15: 07
    The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied. If Syrian air defense crashes an Israeli plane in the sky above Lebanon and does not intrude into Syrian airspace, Damascus will be exposed as an aggressor, which is what it needs least of all in the current political situation.
    1. As if Syria is not a devil in the eyes of the "partners" now.
    2. And if an American plane fires at a target in the Russian Federation from Finland, we will also think about how they will call us? If only they did not expose the aggressor ?! Are these not priorities? request
    1. +6
      7 February 2020 15: 21
      the problem is that as soon as the Syrians begin to bring down the Jews, there will be a war in which the Jews crush the Syrians. If we don’t sign up to the full for them. But we don’t need it.
      But if the Americans attack us from the territory of Chuhland, then we can answer Finns without any problems and no one will condemn us.
      1. +8
        7 February 2020 16: 23
        Quote: horus88
        the problem is that as soon as the Syrians begin to bring down the Jews, there will be a war in which the Jews crush the Syrians. If we don’t sign up to the full for them. But we don’t need it.

        1. A year, rather, 2 years ago, the Syrians did fill up an Israeli fighter. The war did not start.
        2. It seems to me that we have recently very well learned to find excuses ..., well, or excuses ... as we like. sad
        1. +2
          7 February 2020 17: 27
          and what should we do? At the moment, we are not a match for the USA in terms of its influence on other countries. The USSR could place missiles in a cube, but what can we do? Either the whole world is in dust, or systematically, step by step, rise from the bottom. Until we catch up and overtake.
          I am for the second option.
          And everything will turn out, perhaps not with us, but it will work out. I believe in it
          1. +5
            7 February 2020 17: 42
            Quote: horus88
            and what should we do?

            You wrote everything correctly. This is how it should be. Just shout that we will lower the enemy's aviation to the ground, and, in general, it will not rise from the airfields, wetting itself, as it was when the S-300 was delivered to Syria, is not necessary. That is, it is better not to shout, but to do. And even if we did not know about these deliveries at all, but only found out when the enemy plane crashed to the ground. And even then it is better if "shot down by a missile of unknown origin." wink Well, at least in the beginning. Then all the same would get to the bottom. laughing
      2. -1
        7 February 2020 18: 00
        Quote: horus88
        But if the Americans attack us from the territory of Chuhland, then we can answer Finns without any problems and no one will condemn us.

        1. We will (and have the right!) To shoot down only IOS that violate our airspace (RF).
        2. Finns will not allow this, since there are real politicians at the helm.
        3. But the Tribals can swing the Yankees in order to create an incident of white. And then howling on a mn scale and new sanctions, even the screeching of the entire US crowd at the UN. Allegedly aggressive Russians bully small, white and fluffy tribals. "Atu" them !!!
        Somehow, however.
    2. +2
      7 February 2020 15: 22
      If Lebanon allows the Israelis to fire from their airspace, let Lebanon rake in.
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 20: 08
        Lebanon at the time, so ogreb !!! (by the way from Syria) that the once prosperous country is still in ruins
  17. +8
    7 February 2020 15: 22
    In my opinion, the reason is that Syria now has no resources to fight on two fronts (and actually more). Successful work on Israeli flyers will definitely lead to escalation and even greater losses. The time has not come yet.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 17: 51
      hi
      Quote: Provincial_71
      In my opinion, the reason is that Syria now has no resources to fight on two fronts (and actually more)

      IMHO the best answer!
  18. kpd
    +2
    7 February 2020 15: 33
    Missiles are also worth a lot of money, because no one will spend expensive missiles of the S-300 complex on shooting down enemy missiles. Just the damage from Israeli attacks is still less than the cost of ammunition. Another thing would be the opportunity to bring down a plane ...
    Yes, the S-300 was designed taking into account the possibility of destroying cruise missiles, but Tomahawk with a nuclear warhead is one thing, and what’s the reason for the Israeli Air Force’s strikes is completely different in terms of danger class.
    1. -3
      7 February 2020 15: 56
      Quote: kpd
      Missiles are also worth a lot of money, because no one will spend expensive missiles of the S-300 complex on shooting down enemy missiles


      Quote: kpd
      Just the damage from Israeli attacks is still less than the cost of ammunition

    2. -1
      7 February 2020 17: 19
      The cost of launching one rocket with S-300 is about 20k uev, F-16 with a pilot more than 5kk, one AGM-154 more than 200k ... (if the Internet does not lie with the prices)
      With comparable budgets, the S-300 can be used for fireworks and prevention.
      1. kpd
        -1
        7 February 2020 17: 28
        Amendment - 20KU is for the country of manufacture, how much Syria missiles cost, we do not know, but there are hardly any prices there for the Russian army.
  19. 0
    7 February 2020 15: 34
    SO NECESSARY! And fsё.Mozhno and from the territory of Syria to hit rockets. But- there was no team.
  20. 0
    7 February 2020 15: 39
    And they’re doing the right thing, so far they don’t knock it down yet. First Idlib must finish
  21. +2
    7 February 2020 15: 39
    Why do not shoot down? For the same reason that Israel’s clowns are not being banned here, they’ve been incriminating Russia. If ordinary Russians have a desire to clean the face of this evil, then the leadership of the portal and the state with the Israelis have common interests. And the general ones are interesting
    they either have loot, or nationality, or relatives in Israel. That's all. Plus they still manage to have mercy for drugs, and not shoot them.
    1. -2
      7 February 2020 18: 05
      Quote: aiden
      Why do not shoot down? For the same reason that Israel’s clowns are not being banned here, they’ve been incriminating Russia. If ordinary Russians have a desire to clean the face of this evil, then the leadership of the portal and the state with the Israelis have common interests. And the general ones are interesting
      they either have loot, or nationality, or relatives in Israel. That's all. Plus they still manage to have mercy for drugs, and not shoot them.

      Vo in and I about the same, it is high time to send a couple of provocateurs to the ban, every lie and provocation is bred. Recently I tried to have a conversation with one about the Kuril Islands, it all came down to the fact that Russia is an aggressor. I told him one thing, he’s talking about something else entirely. And most importantly, the Jews are ill, probably the very same.
      1. -1
        7 February 2020 19: 13
        I also argued with one. As a result, he’s nothing, and I’m in a ban for a month.
  22. 0
    7 February 2020 15: 40
    . But this statement, most likely, is not true, and is intended only to convince a Western audience of the low quality of Russian weapons.

    The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied.

    here is a drive.
  23. +1
    7 February 2020 15: 49
    "The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has his hands tied. If the Syrian air defenses shoot down an Israeli plane in the sky over Lebanon and not invading the airspace of Syria, then Damascus will be exposed as an aggressor, which he already needs least of all in the current political situation. "

    In my opinion, some kind of nonsense. As I understand it, the aggressor is the one who attacks. And if you bring down Jews over Lebanon, it will be just a defense and nothing more.
    Here, rather, they simply suffer them, and do not want to disperse forces, of which there are not many. Apparently, this is currently more profitable. Otherwise, a sluggish war with Israel could go into an acute phase.
    Better to hit the airfields. And not Assad, but with the wrong hands. The Hussites have Point U.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 16: 31
      Quote: Nick Russ
      Here, rather, they simply suffer them, and do not want to disperse forces, of which there are not many. Apparently, this is currently more profitable. Otherwise, a sluggish war with Israel could go into an acute phase.

      As I understand it, the S-200 fires regularly. Our IL-20 is one of the evidence of this. Therefore, your explanation does not fit. There must be another reason. And I would not want to think that the problem is in the complexes.
  24. +7
    7 February 2020 15: 49
    If the Syrian air defense knocked down an Israeli plane in the sky above Lebanon ....... then Damascus will be exposed by the aggressor.
    This is not an argument. If an enemy plane shells the territory of a sovereign state, even from a neighboring territory, it is still aggression. And the plane must be destroyed, and the aggressor must retaliate. And for some reason, Israel spits on the fact that it strikes from the territory of Lebanon . And no one exposes him as an aggressor.
    And about the recent incident. Apparently, it was not just comrades who flew from Iran to Damascus if Israel struck the airport and the Khmeimim base took on board.
  25. orf
    0
    7 February 2020 16: 05
    what prevents to put low-altitude reconnaissance and detection radars (p-19 for example) at the prevailing heights near the border of Lebanon and Syria and transmit target designations to the S-300 division? or put there the positions of the Shells or Bukovs and hammer the Jews as soon as they stick their nose out? Politics is in the way. The Jews have their hands untied. And I think that the downed Ukrainian Boeing in Iran does not need their hands — nobody except Israel needs it .. And the S-300 with such a relief as in Syria is deaf-blind and without radio support is almost useless. In the USSR air defense, each zrdn was tied to an eagle, which provided it with radio-technical information and target designation. So they won
  26. +7
    7 February 2020 16: 17
    Well, now without politics. None of the air defense systems can stop a properly planned and prepared attack on a specific object. Especially if the attack is carried out by competent specialists using suitable technical means. Moreover, even the creation of layered air defense is not a panacea for a strike, which has been repeatedly demonstrated over the past 60 years in very many places. The whole question is the quantity and quality of the funds used.
    1. +1
      7 February 2020 18: 15
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      None of the air defense systems can stop a properly planned and prepared attack on a specific object.

      Stop ... perhaps not. But to repel the blow - maybe. With the integrated use of airborne warning systems, electronic warfare, air defense systems and air defense systems. You can also include fighter aircraft. But for this you need to be at war with the opposing side. We must have resources that the Syrians do not currently have. And that is a fact.
      1. +2
        7 February 2020 20: 14
        Hmm, Syria, in fact, already knows how long it takes to be at war with Israel. And honestly, Israel could have slammed Syria for a long time. But Israel is not profitable.
      2. +3
        7 February 2020 20: 15
        In 1982, the Syrians in Bekaa had it all. Did not help.
        1. +1
          7 February 2020 21: 57
          Apparently the advisers were released on vacation in the USSR. And it happens ... And it happens like this:
          Israel has carefully prepared for air strikes. For Tel Aviv, it was a matter of honor - to avenge the defeat of their Air Force from Egyptian and Syrian air defense during October war of 1973 According to Western sources, then, in the first three days of fighting, Israel lost 50 aircraft. SAM "Kvadrat" (SA-6 Gainful), MANPADS "Strela-2" (SA-7 MANPADS) and ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" shot down 53 of the 170 available in the Israeli Air Force A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft and 33 of 177 fighters -bombers F-4 Phantom. With the help of the Kvadrat air defense system alone, 40 Israeli fighters and attack aircraft were destroyed. In just one day, October 14, 1973, Egyptian anti-aircraft missile systems destroyed 14 Israeli aircraft. Tel Aviv admitted the death of 53 pilots and the loss of 104 combat vehicles. According to Western estimates, Israel lost 180-200 aircraft, and according to Soviet data - 280. After the Yom Kippur War, Israeli pilots nicknamed the Square complex "Three Fingers of Death" (according to the number of missiles on one launcher).

          But you only remember the "pleasant" episodes of your banditry in BV.
          1. +1
            8 February 2020 08: 10
            Remind me where the war, begun by the vile attack of the Egyptians and Syrians, ended?
            1. +1
              8 February 2020 10: 33
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              launched by a vile attack

              Are you talking about Israeli attacks on Arab states in 1956, 1967, 1982? Then everything is right!
              1. +1
                8 February 2020 14: 00
                This is about the attack of the Arab armies in 1948, the day after the proclamation of the State of Israel. And about all the actions of the Arab countries between the wars.
            2. 0
              8 February 2020 13: 30
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Remind me where the war, begun by the vile attack of the Egyptians and Syrians, ended?

              at the same time remind where the command "stand!" laughing You guys got wild! But this is only the current moment .. Concrete, historical .. What if everything changes !? wink You need to be more modest. lol
              1. +1
                8 February 2020 15: 05
                What funny fantasies you have. When the Jews crossed the Canal, the whole world screamed "Stop." Because it was 120 km to Cairo and not a single combat-ready unit. The mighty USSR was so scared that it almost unleashed a nuclear war.
                1. +1
                  8 February 2020 16: 41
                  Quote: Zeev Zeev
                  that he nearly unleashed a nuclear war.

                  You answered yourself, and the rest is your "funny fantasies". I respect Israel and its citizens. But, sometimes, everything starts with a somewhat overestimated conceit, and then “the whole world turns to dust,” “has no analogues,” “let's get there, repeat,” and so on ... I try to warn you from this. Fortunately, you can make sure that my words are correct right on this site.
  27. +4
    7 February 2020 16: 18
    "Russia, as you know, claims a special relationship not only with Syria, but also with Israel," it turns out that Putin is sitting on two chairs, but like everyone else, his ass will also break when it comes
  28. +3
    7 February 2020 16: 18
    Whatever the answer to this question, with the bottom line, the complete failure of the project "We will supply Syria with S-300" and the discrediting of Russian weapons, since there are plenty of Australian experts for this matter. I remember that Putin promised that everyone would feel the difference, like with tomatoes.

    It turns out right according to Churchill - and war and humiliation.

    But what if the liner would have been from Moscow, and could not have avoided shelling? Would you bear it too?
    1. +5
      7 February 2020 18: 22
      Quote: Youri
      But what if the liner would have been from Moscow, and could not have avoided shelling? Would you bear it too?

      Sir, if my grandmother had a child-bearing organ, then she would be ... grandfather!
      Secondly, Israel would be careful not to directly bombard the Damascus AP when their Moscow plane lands on the strip. I am more than sure of this. For the Jews have much less de-bills than the commentators on the VO site!
      As for "would have endured" or not I can not judge, tk. this is the policy of the highest limits, to which we are like walking to the moon!
      1. BAI
        +1
        7 February 2020 20: 47
        Israel would have been careful not to directly bombard the Damascus AP when their Moscow plane lands on the strip.

        Tell the downed IL-20.
        1. +3
          7 February 2020 22: 23
          Quote: BAI
          Tell the downed IL-20.

          The IL-20’s deaths were caused by the underestimates of the AAA air defense system, which could not recognize the target and timely undermine the missile launcher when it was redirected to our scout.
          The Jews acted genuinely (this is their national trait), but this is war. But in the war everyone wants to survive, especially not understanding the means ...
      2. +2
        7 February 2020 21: 12
        The question is whether they would have endured or not, not actually to you, but rather a rhetorical one. Perhaps yes, they will try to avoid the incident with the RUSSIAN passenger liner - and thanks for that!
        I don’t know about grandparents, but you’re right about the moon. None of us knows a lot of what is happening. However, references to high political categories remind me that the most ugly, catastrophic mistakes, as well as the bloodiest crimes in history, were committed by very knowledgeable people, "that's why they are sitting there" and "smarter than you and me."
        The fact is that the mini-world war in which Russia has already intervened is not going to end, and the countries that prevent it from ending have declared themselves untouchable, some in different air spaces and some in Syrian territory. And Russia doesn’t want to do anything or not.

        A few days ago, VO talked about the fate of Syria, when it all ends and how. So I am afraid that a war going on at such a pace at a certain moment will begin to turn into a defeat for Russia and, ultimately, an exodus from Syria. And this in its negative consequences - as it were, so as not to offend anyone - will be like the Crimean War multiplied by the Russo-Japanese War.
      3. gmb
        0
        7 February 2020 21: 45
        Second paragraph is wonderful
  29. +1
    7 February 2020 16: 21
    If you are beaten, you must beat in response, otherwise your feet will simply begin to wipe about you.

    Russia is not obliged to restrain Syria in protecting its land, and Syria is obliged to protect itself, by all means, that is!

    Syrian planes must be shot down not only over the territory of Lebanon, but even over the territory of Israel. These devils completely lost their conscience.

    Only the dying fragments of an Israeli aircraft will cool the insane Israeli military.
    1. -1
      7 February 2020 20: 44
      [quote] Syrian aircraft must be shot down not only over the territory of Lebanon, but even over the territory of Israel. These devils have completely lost their fear and conscience / quote] Amen!
    2. gmb
      -2
      7 February 2020 21: 48
      Syrian planes must be shot down not only over the territory of Lebanon, but even over the territory of Israel. These devils completely lost their fear and conscience [quote = Ratmir_Ryazan],
      You are right as never before wassat
  30. +2
    7 February 2020 16: 23
    "landscape and geographical factors", "insufficient level of qualification", "unsuccessfully located in mountainous terrain", "Russia, as you know, claims a special relationship" - BAD DANCER IS HINDERED BY EGGS!
  31. +3
    7 February 2020 16: 58
    Russia is neutral in the confrontation between Israelis and Persians. It is beneficial for Russia to slow down the growing influence of the Iranians in Syria by the forces of Israel. You must also take into account the quality of the Israeli Air Force, pilots, avionics, aircraft, the best in the world.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 18: 01
      Quote: Khoja Nasredin
      Russia is neutral in the confrontation between Israelis and Persians. It is beneficial for Russia to slow down the growing influence of the Iranians in Syria by the forces of Israel. You must also take into account the quality of the Israeli Air Force, pilots, avionics, aircraft, the best in the world.

      Seriously? About the quality of the best aircraft in the world? Since when has the F-16 become the best in the world?
  32. +2
    7 February 2020 16: 58
    When an air defense breakthrough, the advantage is always on the side of the attacker. Separated air defense is many times more stable and efficient, but without the support of fighter aircraft and AWACS is also doomed. Whether it's the S-300, Patriot or the Iron Dome.
  33. -1
    7 February 2020 17: 01
    Because with prolonged missile attacks on air defense without the Strategic Missile Forces, it is useless. Now, if there was an "oncoming lane" on the airfields of the aggressors ...
  34. +3
    7 February 2020 17: 12
    Quote: K-50
    Quote: 210ox
    Have you not forgiven? Putin visited Israel not so long ago ...

    This is hardly an indicator. In addition to the president, there are still people, and the people, according to Truth, are judging by the native Russian.
    Therefore, when the bill is presented, a terrible tsimes will wait for the Jews (as it seems to them). Tryndets in our opinion. But so far no time is visible. sad

    Tsimes (Yiddish צימעס) - a dessert dish of Jewish cuisine [1]. It is a sweet vegetable stew of various composition, which depends on the area and circumstances. Accordingly, there are carrot, bean, chickpea and other varieties of cimes [2] [3] [4].
  35. -6
    7 February 2020 17: 17
    in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied.

    This is the truth in my opinion.
    And missiles do not hit the earth with air from rockets (S-300). Shells and tori work on them.
    But not everyone knocks.
    Jews, after all, are not fools.
    ps Syria is now one of the best air defense in the world IMHO.
  36. 0
    7 February 2020 17: 24
    The Kremlin that can’t agree with Israel, we’re flying, let’s launch a couple of missiles, take it! And ash pepper, from behind the mountains, to a quiet place, not honestly! Not fraternally, we say Assad, sorry brother, the Jews did not warn, engaged in deception! Yes, and we are slaves, we suddenly think, with 300 it’s cool, there’s no better place in the world, but here heh ... some kind of it!
  37. +1
    7 February 2020 18: 00
    If Syrian air defense crashes an Israeli aircraft in the sky above Lebanon and does not intrude into Syrian airspace, Damascus will be exposed as an aggressor

    L !!! Logic, bombing is not aggression, but aggression is defended. What kind of nonsense?

    our Israeli readers

    Readers damn, provocateurs and not ours. I would say who they are, but the moderator will not miss. And they use it.
  38. +1
    7 February 2020 18: 58
    It's not about the effectiveness or inefficiency of the air defense system ..
    It's just politics .. Where there are no friends or sworn enemies.
    But there are interests.
    Morality, etc. in politics are absolutely inappropriate categories.
    "Russia has only two allies - its army and navy"
    "Britain does not have permanent friends - it has permanent interests"
    If you wish, you can find many more similar statements.
    The essence is the same - the forest is cut, chips fly.
  39. 0
    7 February 2020 19: 01
    [/ quote] Moreover, the use of Russian systems against Israeli aviation is not only a military and technical issue, but also a political one, and Russia, as you know, claims special relations not only with Syria, but also with Israel, declaring the existence of existing military communication channels. [quote]
    Flight of birds is not controlled. It's all about the architecture of building an air defense system. There are dead zones, their AAA air defense system does not control. Yes, and there is nothing there.
  40. 0
    7 February 2020 19: 30
    = If Syrian air defense crashes an Israeli plane in the sky above Lebanon and does not intrude into Syrian airspace, Damascus will be exposed as the aggressor, which is what it needs least of all in the current political situation. =
    What kind of flawed logic? In the same way, Syria can say - Lebanon is an aggressor, since strikes are being made from its airspace
    = Much more interesting is the version that the S-300s were unsuccessfully located in mountainous areas, which created significant obstacles to their effective operation. =
    Another cheap excuse.
    Most likely, these attacks are the result of an agreement between Nataniyah and Putin. And then we wonder why Iran is not very friendly with us.
  41. BAI
    0
    7 February 2020 20: 43
    most likely, the S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems against Israeli aircraft attacking Syrian soil from Lebanese territory are currently simply not being used.

    Actually, yes. They stand as furniture.
  42. -1
    7 February 2020 20: 52
    Quote: Cowbra
    Yes there are all great wars laughing
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Первая_Иудейская_война
    60 thousand Romans got along, they smeared 300 thousand troops of Jews like a forshmak on the sand, and in order not to get up twice - and another 600 thousand of their henchmen, for each Roman, 15 "great" ones turned out ...

    We are sure that 300 thousand died on the battlefield. It seems like half of starvation and illness died in cities, in Jerusalem, for example.
    Here Rome then was very lamented by the testimonies of historians that the victory went with great blood ..
    1. +2
      8 February 2020 19: 14
      just now) Jews in a hypothetical conflict in a vacuum, smear the Romans)))) with a thin layer)
  43. +4
    7 February 2020 20: 55
    Quote: 210ox
    Not just a layered system. Some C300 will not do the weather

    Moreover, I heard that he is scattered in different areas

    Quote: Pessimist22
    It is necessary to beat them not in the sky, but at the airport, let Iran give them rockets, destroy ten aircraft on the ground and then they will be calmer.

    Yes they have rockets. Only if Syria launches a missile strike on Israel, will it begin to roll out into a thin pancake. Destroying primarily air defense systems, airfields, communication and control centers.

    Quote: K-50
    And this is not the first time that Jews attacking Syria by hiding in a foreign plane, provoking its air defense.
    The Jews will "play out". Probably they think that Russia will forgive them the IL-20. No, we remember everything. the time will come and we will "present" the bills. You will answer us for the 1917 revolution. We will uproot you !!

    I just don’t understand one thing in this situation.
    Damascus airfield is located 16-20 km from the suburbs of Damascus. The direction of the stripes is "northeast - southwest". Moreover, the strip closest to the territory of Israel belongs to the air force base. The civil airport strip is located four kilometers from the VVB.
    If Israeli planes attacked through Lebanon, that is, from the north-west and shot at the suburbs of Damascus, how could the Syrian air defense be fired so that they nearly shot down a plane landing from the northeast two dozen kilometers from the suburbs of Damascus ?? ?? Here is a grown up. And how then do Israeli planes located at a distance of about 90-100 km from the airport in the opposite direction hide behind a civilian airliner?

    Quote: Nick Russ
    The Hussites have Point U.

    Yes, and what? She has already become with a range of 1500-2000 km?
  44. +2
    7 February 2020 21: 40
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    60 thousand professional Roman soldiers against 300 thousand peasants with stakes and knives. Three years

    When the Mosad really faced the warriors it was much more sad for the Romans ...
  45. -1
    7 February 2020 21: 49
    Why the S-300 does not protect Syria from Israeli aviation: reflections and versions
    Syria’s air defense missile systems were hit in response and were nearly shot down by a civilian Airbus A-320 that was landing at the airport in Damascus on the Tehran-Damascus flight (there were 172 people on board). Only thanks to the skill of the dispatchers who transferred the board to the alternate aerodrome did catastrophe escape
    "According to online service Flightradar24, which tracks the movements of passenger planes around the world, the first plane to arrive from Tehran to Damascus that day was the A320 of the Syrian company Cham Wings Airlines, which landed at 23:00 UTC (February 7 at 02:00 Moscow time).
    The flight path of this aircraft, which is recorded by the signals of the aircraft’s transponder, is interrupted several kilometers from the airport, however, at about the same distance, the signals of most aircraft that arrive to Damascus. The service recorded that already 10 minutes after the transponder was turned off the plane landed safely in Damascus."

    The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied.

    "According to local source Deir EzZor 24, Sunday unidentified aircraft attacked targets associated with pro-Iranian militants near Al-Mayadin, east of the city of Deir ez-Zor in eastern Syria. "

    No comment.

    Moreover, the use of Russian systems against Israeli aviation is not only a military and technical issue, but also a political one,
    Missed the most important point, FINANCIAL. If all three of these can be poorly poorly fixed, then this is simply not possible.
    And Israel officially stated that an attempt to launch a rocket in the direction of the plane, regardless of the result, would lead to the destruction of the installation. I will not give examples
    HERE AND ALL REFLECTIONS.
  46. +7
    7 February 2020 21: 53
    All right, all right ...
    Results:
    1) Praised by ura-media and experts C300 can not cope.
    2) Their Iraqi counterparts cannot cope.
    3) Ura-media and experts lie and continue to lie with impunity.
    4) Our people continue to die with impunity
    5) Jewish, ours and other rich people, experts and politicians continue to joyfully go to each other, despite a great deal of rhetoric.
    6) New armamentized super-duper weapons do not show themselves at all, foreigners often refuse them, and inside the country they often show cartoons ... and the army buys a little.
    7) Yes, and we can’t mass produce them.
    8) Unlike nova, the old weapons of the USSR, but modernized, are showing themselves well, enough are bought by foreigners and our army.

    In general, if you do not listen to promises about the super-share of super-nova in the army, then we’ll run through at least some armed forces in conflicts, and that’s good.
    1. 0
      7 February 2020 22: 15
      Quote: Alex2000
      Results:

      In the top ten.
      There is nothing to add a pity that you can put one PLUS!
    2. -2
      8 February 2020 04: 25
      Quote: Alex2000
      Our people continue to die with impunity

      Who among the citizens of Russia suffered from Israeli air strikes? Moreover, in order to avoid such cases, the military of Israel and Russia cooperate very well. As for the Iranian-Israeli "graters" - at the moment we have nothing to do with them. Yes
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      In the top ten.

      Not even milk ... so, idle bunch. Yes However, from the point of view of a draft on the fan ... although here, too, there is a kindergarten, a nursery.
      1. -1
        8 February 2020 16: 24
        Quote: region58
        also - kindergarten, nursery.

        Your remark will become valid if there is EVIDENCE:
        1 This is not so because ............
        2 This is not so because ............
        Otherwise, from the point of view of the projection onto the fan, even without projection the EMPTY SOUND from the wind! laughing
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 18: 16
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Your remark will become valid if there is EVIDENCE:

          Get fucked up ... That is, you wrote unsubstantiated nonsense, but do you demand some irrefutable evidence from others? Nimbus is not shaking? I repeat my question: Which of the citizens of Russia suffered from Israeli air strikes? And do not demand to provide a certificate from every citizen of Russia that he was not injured. laughing
          PS For those who are in the tank: Russia in the Middle East defends its interests, and these interests are far from being to crush everyone there.
  47. 0
    7 February 2020 22: 27
    Yes, it already smells of war, but who and who will hang it after it? and will anyone stay alive?
  48. +2
    8 February 2020 00: 42
    There is another version of why Israeli planes do not go astray.
    Currently, Israel is one of the few influential Russian allies in the fight against rewriting the history of World War II. And for this, the Jews were petty pranks, such as several missiles at Hesbollah’s facilities, and will continue to get away with it.
  49. +2
    8 February 2020 01: 08
    The author could not come up with a stupider name for this article. It turns out that S-300 is protecting Syria. Just the Israeli Air Force does not fly into Syria. So the author claims. Not otherwise a split mind.
  50. +2
    8 February 2020 01: 30
    Stupid excuses start to get bored a la "no matter what happens", "oh-oh, no matter how accused of aggression" "do you want a third world?" Yes, this is nonsense - it's just that the authorities cover up their insolvency and puppetry - they all play according to the script - they will have to organize the war, and the existing theater for the goyim (you have to make fun of it) - 100% if ours soaked some thread of the American checkpoint nothing would have happened, and the European plane would have been shot down, too, not scary - they would have wanted to roll out Syria long ago.
  51. -1
    8 February 2020 04: 20
    This means there were no Israeli planes to shoot down the teams. Did you have your own? Admit it already that your s300 and s400 are just turds
  52. +1
    8 February 2020 09: 43
    Jam the S-300PM-2? The author is good at making jokes
  53. IC
    +1
    8 February 2020 09: 45
    Apparently, this old story is of little interest to anyone in Czech society. For them, another event in 1968 is more relevant. People live normal, current lives, and politicians understand that you cannot earn political capital from history.
  54. 0
    8 February 2020 11: 16
    Quote: Amateur
    But Israeli planes do not fly into Syrian airspace. They shoot either from the sea or from Lebanon

    It’s like Tochka-U will fly to Israel and that’s it, the PU didn’t cross the border, so what are the claims?
    But Israel will still “express concern,” as will Syria
  55. +1
    8 February 2020 11: 56
    Quote: mark1
    Quote: 210ox
    Some C300 will not do the weather

    Why sell it? They would have pulled once for decency. 1-2 Jewish planes shot down by Jews will frighten. And you can always refer to the Syrian calculations by the Jewish analogy.

    Shoot, shoot... So you will be outcasts, have you decided to outdo us Jews? In this regard, we are specialists in historical terms.
    PS. Will it frighten you? Surely it won't make you angry..?
  56. 0
    8 February 2020 12: 11
    So I don’t understand why the S-300 is not shot down by missiles. Or the S-300 can only shoot down “airplanes”.
  57. +2
    8 February 2020 13: 40
    Question: who is protected (protected) by the S-300?
  58. -1
    8 February 2020 13: 52
    What if we hit the airfields from which these Jewish planes take off with calibers?
    1. +1
      8 February 2020 16: 38
      Quote: Spiridonovich2
      hit airfields with calibers

      First you need to learn not to be ashamed at the parade, and only then dream of how to hit Israeli airfields.
      1. +2
        8 February 2020 19: 07
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        First you need to learn

        That's for sure ... (s)
        1. +1
          8 February 2020 19: 39
          Quote: region58
          What if we hit the airfields from which these Jewish planes take off with calibers?

          There is NOT a BIG difference.
          He is not going to go to Voronezh.
          1. +1
            8 February 2020 21: 42
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Quote: region58
            What if we hit the airfields from which these Jewish planes take off with calibers?

            There is no need to quote someone else's text under my nickname. You're showing the bad side of yourself...
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            He is not going to go to Voronezh.

            Just like our air defense crews in Syria are not going to shoot down Israeli planes. There is no need for this. At least for the moment. And everyone in Israel knows this very well. Except for you, probably...
            So after all: Which Russian citizens suffered from Israeli air strikes?
            1. +1
              8 February 2020 22: 06
              I apologize
              I don't know how it got under your nickname, it doesn't belong YOU
              4) Our people continue to die with impunity

              Quote: region58
              So after all: Which Russian citizens suffered from Israeli air strikes?

              [/i]I don’t know where you saw Russian citizens who died from Israeli strikes
              Well, I won’t write about the number of deaths in Syria, you can find it yourself if you want.
              1. +1
                8 February 2020 23: 11
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                I don't know where you saw it

                Hmm... Here:
                Quote: Alex2000
                4) Our people continue to die with impunity

                I, of course, admit that Alex2000 is not a citizen of Russia, but then the question arises - who is his friend, and how are the Russian air defense troops to blame for the death of these “friends”, who, let me remind you for a moment, are there for a very specific purpose, and this They fulfill the goal very well.
                1. 0
                  9 February 2020 09: 25
                  Quote: region58
                  So after all: Which Russian citizens suffered from Israeli air strikes?

                  And yet I did not receive an answer to what you wrote
                  Which Russian citizens suffered from Israeli air strikes?
                  Quote: region58
                  Russian air defense troops are to blame,

                  Russian air defense troops are to blame
                  You can think whatever you want, but don’t attribute it to OTHERS!
                  I got it.
                  You don't have to answer!
                  1. 0
                    9 February 2020 17: 46
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    You don't have to answer!

                    No, I’ll answer. I won’t answer more precisely, but I’ll ask: why were you so happy that you forwarded my question to me? fool Moreover, I supposedly blame the Russian air defense forces? fool This cannot even be called nonsense, it is beyond the bounds of reason in general. Either you are unable to express your thoughts correctly, or you do not understand the meaning of what is written. Which, however, is practically the same thing. Yes Alas, constructive dialogue in this style is impossible.
        2. +1
          10 February 2020 06: 46
          Well, it turns out there’s enough there too))))
      2. 0
        8 February 2020 23: 27
        We need to replace old stuff, not extend deadlines)))
    2. 0
      8 February 2020 20: 54
      Khmeyim will not be there and that’s all
  59. +2
    8 February 2020 13: 56
    Quote: Spiridonovich2
    What if we hit the airfields from which these Jewish planes take off with calibers?

    You have an infection in your brain. Forget...I won't even imagine the cartoon.
    It’s better to hit the Iraqi bases, you’ll make less nerves...
    1. -1
      10 February 2020 06: 42
      I probably have a more vivid imagination, I can easily imagine such a cute fungus from a 100 Mt nuclear bomb explosion over Jerusalem or Tel-a-viv. It turns out cool))))))
  60. +1
    8 February 2020 21: 41
    The thing is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the sky, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus has hands tied. If Syrian air defense crashes an Israeli plane in the sky above Lebanon and does not intrude into Syrian airspace, Damascus will be exposed as an aggressor, which is what it needs least of all in the current political situation.

    And from what is written, it turns out that Israel is the aggressor. And Syria could take care of a worthy punishment here. Or she'll have to be a jerk. Something like this request
    1. 0
      10 February 2020 06: 38
      God's chosen a priori cannot be aggressors, they are God's chosen))))))
  61. 0
    9 February 2020 09: 39
    Why can’t you set up an ambush from the Lebanese side and not shoot them down with “unknown means of destruction”, fortunately, Lebanon is also in trouble now.
  62. 0
    9 February 2020 12: 47
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Israel is not long left behind. Until November 2020, after Trump's re-election. Pull the tail and crawl into the Eurasian Union.

    What, the light has turned like a wedge on Trump? Did other US presidents not help Israel?

    Quote: However, Dear
    The Syrians want to shoot down and there is an order, but they can’t. The Russians in Khmeimim do not want to bring down and there is no order, because there is mutual understanding: you do not touch us, but we do. That's the whole tricky layout.

    Syrians want a lot of things. But the training is such that these wishes remain wishes. After the death of our IL in Syria, there was information that either 30 or 40 missiles were fired at air targets. True, these targets were already at their air bases. And the Syrians continued to shoot.

    As for our contingent, when it was brought in it was unequivocally stated that it would act only against ISIS and other irrepressible forces. Our contingent will not provide any support to Assad in the war with its neighbors and we will shoot down targets only when they threaten us. NATO countries fired more than 100 missiles into Syria - ours did not interfere, respecting the status that our contingent has.
    1. 0
      10 February 2020 06: 36
      Well, at the same time, we demonstrated to the whole world our restraint and peaceful intentions.. The most important thing in such a situation is not to succumb to provocations
  63. +1
    9 February 2020 21: 37
    It is prohibited to use the S-300 against Jewish aircraft. Everyone who comes back from military service from Syria talks about this. It is even forbidden to turn on the radar, let alone shoot it down.
    1. 0
      10 February 2020 06: 33
      And it is right.
  64. +1
    9 February 2020 22: 16
    I read armchair warriors, I laugh. They don’t shoot down because they can’t and don’t know how. This is not for you to shoot down an IL-18 or a Boeing on the Donbass. Americans buy Israeli REP products for themselves. If our S-300, 400 posed a danger to Israel, they would have been destroyed long ago. Since 1949, Israel has not lost a single war to the Arabs and has expanded its territory several times, who are 100 times more numerous than the Jews and who were supported by the USSR, at that time the second power in the world. And Russian weapons are all modernization of old Soviet systems. He served in the Northern Fleet in the 70s, even then our electronic warfare equipment was an order of magnitude inferior to the American ones, since the element base lagged behind for decades, after the fight in the USSR against the pseudoscience of cybernetics.
  65. +1
    9 February 2020 22: 20
    “Right now, I’m retiring from the armed forces. Submariner of the Black Sea Fleet. Served on a new “old” diesel-electric boat. Not an officer. I went to serve with great enthusiasm. The crew even laughed at me, they say, let’s see what you say , when you serve. And, unfortunately, they turned out to be damn right. Not a trace of enthusiasm remained. All that remained was bitterness from the realization that, if something happened, we would defend our Motherland not by force of arms, but by the lives of people.
    To be honest, the letter doesn’t convey even a tenth of what’s going on; I can’t say for the entire army, but certainly in the navy. It seems that the army, as a structure designed to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the state, is not needed by this state and is used as a structure for laundering budget money on a truly cyclopean scale.
    Our crew has changed by more than half in a year. Moreover, the already experienced guys left, and those who came were those who had only seen the boat on TV. And after not having served for even six months, they are also talking about how they will not renew their contracts. Because the service conditions are much less comfortable than when working in civilian life, and the salary is lower. A sailor on a diesel submarine of the Black Sea Fleet earns less than a trolleybus driver in Sevastopol. Despite the fact that you must know and be able to do tens of times more, only one day off a week, living out of suitcases... It’s especially pleasing to purchase anything for the boat at your own expense - sandpaper, tools, paint, brushes, rollers... It’s good that we don’t buy spare parts yet. Etc. and so on. And it turns out to be a vicious circle. On the boat there are 45% new people, 45% who know how to do something and only 10% professionals. This is not to mention the fact that the crews are far from complete. Let's talk briefly about the situation. If you describe everything in detail, you could easily write a whole book. Therefore, it is not surprising that in response to the shooting down of our plane by the Turks in Syria, we did not really answer them at all. Because, apart from a nuclear club, we have nothing to answer them with. Capitalism is evil, and under-capitalism, which we have in Russia, is even worse.
    There are dozens, hundreds and thousands of such letters and comments. From the army and navy. It turns out that Mother Russia is losing its last allies?
  66. 0
    10 February 2020 06: 30
    That’s right, in any situation the most important thing is not to give in to provocations. If you succumb to provocations, the newspapers will write badly about you later. Let respected Jews bomb whatever they want, we will not succumb to their provocations and will be white and fluffy idiots in the eyes of the entire civilized world, and do not care that our people are dying. The main thing is not to give in to provocations))))). Personally, I’m damn curious whether the Syrians adopted this nonsense from us, or we from them.))))
  67. 0
    10 February 2020 11: 57
    They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the skies, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus hands tied. If Syrian air defenses shoot down an Israeli plane in the skies over Lebanon and not invading Syrian airspace,


    Some kind of thin excuse...
    Tomorrow the Americans will start firing at us from the territory of Ukraine... and our hands will be tied...
  68. 0
    10 February 2020 17: 39
    Why isn't the S-300 protected... The military has a rule: take the weapon out of the holster, shoot. If you're not sure you'll shoot, don't even reach for the holster. Otherwise, while you stand with a pistol in your hand and think, they will take it away from you, kick you in the teeth and stuff you into your holster. This is what the generals from the Arbat district were thinking when sending the S-300 to Syria? Couldn’t it have been possible to first bring candidates to Russia for training for positions in combat crews? I think a maximum of a couple of weeks would be enough for the dumbest instructor to understand that the Syrians are unteachable. It's not their fault, it's their problem. There has been a civil war in the country for 9 years, universities are closed - where can competent specialists come from?
    Now this unfortunate S-300 stands there like a scarecrow, not scaring anyone, for the amusement of the whole world... That is. We pooped ourselves in the holster. Why don't the Syrians shoot down Israeli planes? Yes, for the simplest reason, they can’t. Because of the level of their training and with the means they have. Israelis are some of the best military pilots in the world. During the exercises, the Americans were tested without any problems. A few years ago, only the Germans were on an equal footing with them; today, I think, not anymore. And instead of screaming and searching for a way to take more terrible revenge, I believe that the Russian Aerospace Forces would do well to study the combat experience of the Israelis. How do they apply to the terrain, what tactics do they use and why? Why do they strike with 2 - 4 aircraft maximum? What weapons are used? How are raids generally organized - and why are the results so effective? As for why we don’t shoot down. Well, let's do it. They will shoot you down in response. So, what is next. In Syria, the Turks are advancing from the north. How it will end is unknown - this is Erdagan... In the east, the Americans blocked our passage. Both we and they in the areas of contact have already begun to click their teeth and bolts. Thanks to the Kurdish fighters - they promptly arrived at the place of the arrows and promised to hit both of them with Lyuli. It worked...for now. Tell me, in this situation, do we also need problems in the south and with Israel?
  69. +1
    10 February 2020 23: 58
    You may ask, where are the latest developments, where are the best aircraft in the world? Where is the famous Su-57, which “terrified the US army” back in 2016?

    Su-57, aka T-50, aka PAK-FA
    Su-57, aka T-50, aka PAK-FA
    Unfortunately, the Su-57 has serious problems with stealth and according to this indicator it cannot be classified as a fifth-generation aircraft. It still does not have a fifth-generation engine, and according to the most optimistic forecasts, the Product 30 engine will go into mass production no earlier than 2025-2029.

    He has serious problems with electronics due to the lack of Russian production facilities for the production of modern electronic components. There are no modern means of destruction for it and they are mostly still of Soviet design and even production. And their main drawback is that these weapons can hardly be classified as high-precision.

    Due to these, as well as numerous other problems, ONE Su-2019 aircraft was produced in 57 (it crashed). And in 2020 there will also be ONE. Mass serial production of the Su-57 and their delivery to the troops will begin (maybe) no earlier than 2027-2029. (For comparison, in 2019 the US Air Force and Navy received 93 fifth-generation F-35 fighters of all modifications, and in 2020 they will receive another 78 F-35)

    As we see, all planes. those in service with the Russian Armed Forces were either produced during the USSR, or are modernized models of USSR aircraft developed in the 70-80s of the last century. Not a single new aircraft has been created. Moreover, our leadership cannot build and maintain even the minimum required number of old aircraft.

    I bow to the engineering genius of the USSR designers. Yes, our aviation was advanced, and many solutions are still used by the world's leading manufacturers. But several decades have passed. Science and technology do not stand still. No matter how much you upgrade your bow into a crossbow, you have little chance against the SVD.

    I take my hat off to the skill and dedication of Soviet and Russian military pilots. I personally knew many of them - they were real warriors, devoted to their cause and their homeland. But what can they do against a two or three times numerical and many times qualitative superiority of a potential enemy?

    Note to trolls: my article is only a compilation of generally known facts. Data taken from public domain. It is useless to accuse me of lying or distorting facts. My message is the following:

    I believe that our political and military leadership is not coping with providing Russian tactical aviation with modern aircraft, and let the readers draw their own conclusions. Let them express their opinion.
  70. +1
    1 March 2020 22: 52
    The author answers the question posed to himself: Israeli aviation attacks ground targets in Syria without entering the latter’s airspace. At the same time, gliding bombs are used with a range of use up to 110 km (depending on the height of the drop. For example, when dropped from a flight altitude of 10 km, this type of ASP (aircraft weapon) having quality (K-quality, dimensionless value, indicator of aerodynamic properties object, for example, for airplanes it is in the range of 10-12: the larger the area of ​​​​the bearing surface, the higher the quality. For plywood it is probably the highest) of approximately 11 units, it will fly gliding 110 km (calculated by the formula D (km) = N (km)*K: for a lost thousand meters of altitude –H in km, the body (in this case, a gliding bomb of the GBU-39 type) will fly in projection along the horizon 11 km – D(km)).In this case, the higher the altitude is taken into account flight of an aircraft, the greater the distance it is seen by the air defense system radar. That is, at the maximum possible range for the radar detection system used by the air defense system. For the S-300, this indicator is known. Therefore, when choosing the altitude and flight route to the target, the conditions of use are very carefully assessed, own capabilities and those of the enemy. Various options for delivering a strike are simulated and, according to assigned criteria, using a computer or using the experience of military experts who have repeatedly used such strikes in various conditions, the optimal one is selected. But the Syrians are not yet able to use S-300 missiles against an Israeli aircraft located in Lebanese airspace or over the Golan Heights. The time has not come yet. We need to extinguish the civil war in our country and work on creating an anti-Israeli coalition. Israel can use any provocation as a pretext for an attack on Syria, and then the goals set for ISIS in relation to Syria will be achieved very quickly, but with a further unpredictable effect for the entire Middle East and the world as a whole.
    So, the S-300 formally does not have the right to fire at Israeli aircraft in the skies of Lebanon, which, coming from the sea and flying over Lebanon (the time spent in Lebanese airspace is only a few minutes) heading towards the location of the target (in most cases - Damascus area, 25-30 km to the border) drop the ASP and turn towards Israel, without entering Syrian airspace or flying through it during the turn for several tens of seconds. During this time, the missile fired by the air defense system will not have time to meet with an Israeli plane with a guaranteed landing of the latter on Syrian territory, so as not to give Israel a reason to accuse Syria of aggression. And firing missiles from the S-300 or S-200 at the used ASPs is the same as “shooting sparrows from a cannon.” Expensive and ineffective. For this purpose there is Pantsir-S, Shilka-type Zak, Tor-M2 and the like. It is very effective at the stage of aiming the aircraft before launching the ASP to work on it using electronic warfare - to suppress the satellite navigation signal, interfere with the aircraft's radar and ASP, cover the most important objects with aerosols, etc. The most effective way is to create a no-fly zone for Israeli aviation over Lebanon and support it in every possible way. This, of course, is a topic for another conversation, but the Syrian air defense will then have more time to organize counteraction to an air strike, which will definitely affect the result. The dropped ammunition first flies in a straight line along the aircraft's speed vector with an initial speed equal to the aircraft's speed (gradually the ASP speed is extinguished due to friction with the air) and at the same time continuing to decline due to its ballistic characteristics, it is carried away by the transfer of air masses (wind) throughout its flight . At the final stage, it has the ability to correct its location using various sensors, depending on the type of ASP used and the short-term activation of the correction engine or accelerator. The types of gliding bombs in service with the Israeli Air Force are well covered in the media and you can read their specifications on the Internet. The most famous: SPICE -1000; -2000; -250. The third representative is SPICE-250 caliber 250 pounds, i.e. analogue of GBU-39 SDB. And if SPICE-2000 and SPICE-1000 are guidance kits and control drives mounted on standard aerial bombs (similar to JDAM or Paveway), then SPICE-250 is a complex weapon model. The F-16 is capable of carrying 16 such bombs, the F-15 - 28. This smart little bomb belongs to the Spice-1000 and Spice -2000 family. Spice-250 weighs 150 kilograms and does not have an engine. The bomb opens its wings after dropping from a fighter and is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 100 kilometers. It is equipped with an optoelectronic homing head and an algorithm that allows you to compare the image of the target with the image stored in the memory of the bomb in an area saturated with means that disrupt the operation of GPS. The pilot can place a target on the homing head before release or during flight.
    The Spiese 16 type ASP used by Israeli F-250s have a range of 100 km from an altitude of 10 km (30 km from an altitude of 3000 meters or 10 km from an altitude of 1000 meters), do not have engines for correcting the trajectory of the fall, but can be used from one aircraft in the amount of 16 things. Accordingly, using several aircraft with a given number of anti-aircraft guns for each, it is possible to carry out calculations to overcome air defense by exceeding its capabilities. As is known, each air defense system complex has a finite number of simultaneously tracked air targets and simultaneously fired ones. Exceeding the number of simultaneously used ASPs in a narrow section of airspace, the capabilities of the air defense system, the latter “locks up” - stops monitoring the air situation, like a computer - “freezes”. In order to prevent an air defense-missile defense breakthrough in this way, it is necessary to study this aspect in more depth and develop methods for building air defense-missile defense with the integrated use of not only all types of available radars, but also electronic reconnaissance and warfare equipment. Obviously, the effectiveness of the operation of this air defense missile defense system will depend not only on the availability of the necessary infrastructure and technical equipment, but also on the presence of centralized control and the degree of automation of the process.
    At the moment, and in the near future, most likely, the SAA will not be able to organize this kind of system due to the current situation. That's why they don't shoot S-300s. It is impossible to use airplanes (until they fly into Syrian airspace and into the S-300 destruction zone), but to use gliding bombs - it is expensive and ineffective. Waiting in the wings...
  71. 0
    15 March 2020 21: 43
    Russian S-300s shooting down Jewish planes is nonsense, this has never happened and will never happen in the future.
  72. 0
    31 March 2020 08: 04
    “The whole point is that the Israeli Air Force avoids violating Syrian airspace. They hit Syrian territory, appearing in the skies, for example, over Lebanon. Therefore, Damascus’s hands are tied. If Syrian air defenses shoot down an Israeli plane in the skies over Lebanon and not invading Syrian airspace, then Damascus will be exposed as the aggressor" - if a NATO aircraft, for example a Polish one, launches a missile at Russia from the territory of Ukraine, then we do not have the right to shoot down the “carrier”? I very much doubt that they will tolerate it. The first time they may miss it, but no one will fly from Europe to Ukraine again and they will blame it “by default.”

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