Two more frigates of project 22350 will be built at Severnaya Verf

Head frigate of the 22350 project "Admiral Gorshkov"

Two more frigates of project 22350 of the Admiral Gorshkov type will be laid at the Severnaya Verf shipyard by the end of this year. It is reported by Mil.Press FlotProm with reference to two sources in the shipbuilding industry.

According to the publication, the decision to lay two more frigates of project 22350 was made following the operation of the lead ship of the series - Admiral Gorshkov, serving in the North navy. According to available information, the number of cruise missiles on board will be increased on the ships planned for laying. Instead of 16 KR, like the first ships of the series, the new frigates will carry 24 missiles.

Recall that at present the head frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov is serving as part of the Russian Navy; the first serial Admiral Kasatonov is getting ready for commissioning. The second serial frigate Admiral Golovko is being prepared for launching; its commissioning in the Navy is scheduled for next year. The fourth ship of the Admiral Isakov series is under construction.

Initially, they wanted to limit the series of frigates of project 22350 to four ships, but last year it was decided to lay down two more combat ships of this project: Admiral Amelko and Admiral Chichagov, which were laid in April 2019.

Recall that the ships of project 22350 have a displacement of 5 thousand tons with a length of 135 m and a width of 16 m. The frigate is able to cover 4500 miles, while developing a speed of up to 29 knots. Autonomy of swimming is 30 days. Crew - from 170 people.

Main power plant: gas turbine engine with a total capacity of 65 thousand liters. pp., diesel generators with a total capacity of 4 thousand kW.

The frigate is armed with: the 130-mm A-192 artillery mount, the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system; launchers for 16 anti-ship missiles "Onyx" or "Caliber", anti-submarine complex "Package", anti-submarine helicopter Ka-27.

In May last year, it was reported that the Ministry of Defense decided to build a series of frigates of the modernized project 22350M. In total, it is planned to build 12 ships, the first of which should be part of the Navy in 2027.

The new project should provide for the construction of a ship with a tonnage of 7 thousand tons, with the deployment of Caliber, Onyx and Zircon cruise missiles on board to 48. Also, the frigates will be equipped with the Polimen-Redut anti-aircraft missile system with ammunition up to 100 missiles, anti-submarine and torpedo weapons. Frigates should receive a single universal automated fire control system for all types of ship-borne weapons.

The Northern Design Bureau is engaged in the development of design documentation for the upgraded frigates of Project 22350M, the technical design was supposed to be ready by the end of 2019.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Rent a day time machine ! How should this project be ready BY THE END OF 2019? It is still unknown whether the project is ready? Or, in 2020, the year has not yet arrived? ??

[Bashkirkhan]

Lean, KB is not required to report to you.

[Thrifty]

Bashkir-Khan, if the site writes about a new project for a warship, then more comprehensive information can be given. There is only one answer - the project is completed, it was examined, approved (This is for example!) And, what’s the secret then, in such a formulation of the answer?

[Bashkirkhan]

It takes ages from design to launch. At the North Shipyard, project 20380 corvettes for 2000 tons are built for 7 years each. Frigates are even longer. So you have to wait.

[maxim947]

Good news and great frigate. Good luck to the shipbuilders)

[Artemiy_2]

Well, in fairness they’ve been building for so long because there aren’t enough slipways

[Machito]

Good news.
Again there is no reason not to drink

[Astra wild]

Colleague, Beard. Who wants a drink will find a reason: will they build 2 more frigates? The Lord himself ordered the good news to be noted. They will not build, how not to drink with grief.
You are not like that?

[IL-18]

Quote: Bearded

no reason not to drink

The collapse of the United States can be swollen in one day, or in 52, rejoicing in the independence gained by each state.

[Usher]

Quote: Artemiy_2

Well, in fairness they’ve been building for so long because there aren’t enough slipways

I don’t understand the point, where does the place and speed of construction? If they started to build, then there is a place, and where does the speed? Build a very long time, straight generally long. And these are the results of the USE policy, when school graduates are mostly dumb as traffic jams, and they only know a smartphone.

[Artemiy_2]

Recently, strict and nimble pulled out because there is not enough space. They are waiting for a new boathouse at NE

[Astra wild]

Generally speaking, the exam is not related to funding. In Vika they said that because of financial problems, 22350 were not built, but at a cheaper price: "Talavera". Probably, now they have found funds and started to produce their own gas turbines

[madsollo]

This is the leading one in the series for a long time, and the serial ones are much smaller! Soooo staaa - head and first + serial ...

[bayard]

By the end of last year, the SKETCH project was to be ready.
He is ready. Approved. Now they are preparing a technical project, by the end of this year they should master it. Then bookmarks - not until next year. For this project, a new gas turbine is being prepared - a purely gas turbine, and a gearbox for it. They will do it, they will test it at the stand and - on the way.

[Wiruz]

The technical design was due to be ready by the end of 2019.

Should was to be ready, not he'll be ready.. In general, as far as I remember, by the end of 2019, only outline design had to be completed, sketches should be made, so to speak. Designing itself, God forbid, will be completed by 2022

[maxim947]

Outline design is fully completed at the development stage, here the EP is only part of the modernization and this is not at all the same volume, so there will not be much time required

[Hagalaz]

Why throw a tantrum from scratch? In the article we read: ".... the technical project was supposed to be ready by the end of 2019." As for me, this only means that the author does not have information about the completion of the work, as well as about the postponement of the completion date, although he was previously informed about plans to complete it by the end of the 19th. Just nothing more and nothing less.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Thrifty

Rent a day time machine ! How should this project be ready BY THE END OF 2019? It is still unknown whether the project is ready? Or, in 2020, the year has not yet arrived? ??

They distorted the quote, threw out the word "was", and now you need some kind of car

technical design should was be ready by the end of 2019.

[TermNachTer]

The main thing is that the process has begun, albeit not as fast as we would like. Do you want the pace of shipbuilding, as in the USSR, after 20 years of devastation?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

That's right, a series of Project 22350 up to 6 ships must be extended and you need to start laying a full-fledged destroyer Project 22350M.

48 Gauges and 100 air defense missiles a serious argument + PLO and other systems.

Although the calibers, you can add 16-24 more pieces, so as not to be inferior in impact capabilities to US destroyers such as Arly Burke.

To cover so cover with a volley of everyone and everything.

[Thrifty]

Forgot to add that you also need five Yars to place on them, which is nothing to trifle about. ..

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Thrifty

Forgot to add that you also need five Yars to place on them, which is nothing to trifle about. ..

On the Chinese destroyers of the 55th, 112 missiles each, though there is a displacement of about 12 thousand tons.

[Grits]

It seems like there was an article on VO, where modern frigates from leading manufacturing countries were analyzed in detail. With tables and numbers. It turned out that our "Gorshkov" in terms of the totality of all indicators is the coolest ship in its class. Then why waste time on trifles? It is necessary to build, if the ship is good.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Among the frigates, Gorshkov may look good, but the United States, Britain, Japan and Katai are betting on the mass of destroyers, where 60 or more cruise missiles are already available or can be deployed.

The same German frigate of Saxony type has 32 cells PU Mk.41 and theoretically all of them can be occupied by the Tomahawks and this frigate carries 2 helicopters.

So that our Gorshkov at best is not much inferior to the rest of the frigates, but at the same time he is not near the main ships of our opponents - the destroyers.

Compare the salvo with missiles of the Arly Burke type destroyer at the airfield in Syria of 60 Tomahawks and the theoretical salvo of frigate pr.22350 with 16 missiles.

To equal opportunities, we need 4 frigates pr.22350 for every US destroyer.

Most countries build corvettes for the defense of their near sea zone, and for operations far from their shores, everyone relies on destroyers carrying a large number of cruise missiles.

I think we should do the same.

Frigates are a weak argument in the confrontation with our partners.

[Charik]

Therefore the nuclear submarine 885

[Dart2027]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

112 missiles each,

There are some launchers for all missiles and anti-ship missiles and air defense.

[Wiruz]

Well, something somehow does not pull Project 22350M with such weapons on a full-fledged destroyer. For a "re-frigate" - of course, but as a "destroyer" only Redoubt will not be enough for him. Even if talk about a compact missile defense system for it with a flight range of 400 km is true, you still need to understand that it will not be 40N6, but rather some modification of the 9M96M. Yes, and I would like to see an overwhelmed S-500 with missile defense capability on a destroyer.
In general, some kind of incomprehensible tendency is observed in the Navy. We begin to build normal corvettes - we bring them to the level of almost frigates (remember the latest version of Project 20386 with 32 VPUs); we are just setting up a series of chic frigates - in our minds we are creating frigates-arsenals on their basis (according to the statements of officials, project 22350M will be just that); we plan to plan a series of destroyers, as it was once stated "to replace Project 956, Project 1155 and partially (!) replace Project 1164, - as a result, on paper we get a wunderwaffe of 19000 tons of live weight. It's wonderful, however

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Etc. 22350M - destroyer URO / air defense / PLO, will become the main ship of our fleet.

Project 23560 - a missile defense cruiser with a missile defense S-500.

God das will and Storm with Lomantin.

And for the defense of the near sea zone - the GAS Harmony network, and corvettes 20380/20385 and diesel-electric submarines + aviation and air defense.

Frigate pr.22350 is rather weak for actions far from our shores. 16/24 Gauges in all. There are four of them, so that Arly Burke will be equal in shock capabilities.

[alexmach]

That's right, extend the series pr.22350 to 6 ships

Well, in these two it's up to 8 already.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, you are right these 2 +6 which are already built and are under construction.

[knn54]

The frigate (in this case, a large patrol ship) is fully capable of independently, in isolation from the connection,) perform a combat mission.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

That's right, extend the series pr.22350 to 6 ships

in the sense of extending to 6? 6 already laid, extend to 8.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Although the calibers, you can add 16-24 more pieces, so as not to be inferior in impact capabilities to US destroyers such as Arly Burke.

Super Potters will not go alone, so on one there will be more Onyxes (Circuses), on the other Caliber-NK. It all depends on the task. And overloading a ship with weapons is only harmful, since the effectiveness of a ship primarily depends on its balance.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why won't they go alone ?! We have the frigate Gorshkov alone around the world with a tanker and a tugboat, the destroyers of the United States and Japan send them alone to threaten someone or demonstrate their presence.

So that the Super-Gorshkovs will go alone.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

We have the frigate Gorshkov alone around the world walked with a tanker and axle-box rum

Firstly, we still have one Gorshkov. Secondly, they go alone because we are not at war with a sea power. And thirdly, more does not always mean better. If exaggerating, then on Gorshkov, with due foolishness and YRS, to establish, but only there will be no efficiency from him, although on paper, he will be able to destroy the metropolis.

[bayard]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

That's right, extend the series pr.22350 to 6 ships

Up to 6 pcs. this series was extended last year - laying 2 ships of the improved version - 22350+, with 24 KR in the UVP. And this year 2 more ships will be laid - the 7th and 8th in a row.
Apparently, 22350M - 12 pcs. in the series + option for another 6 pcs.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, you are right, 8 frigates.

[svan26]

And whose GTDA they put ?! Really mastered ?!

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: svan26

Really mastered ?!

Nobody really knows anything. In fact, the general director of Severnaya Verf announced the descent of frigate 22350 "Admiral Golovko" from the domestic power plant in the summer of 2020. If they are late for a couple of months - I personally, "I will understand and forgive."

[Wiruz]

Quote: svan26

And whose GTDA they put ?! Really mastered ?!

Just yesterday, the news was, they say, an Admiral Golovko will have an exclusively Russian-made engine. They will let him down, according to the promises, this summer

[alexmach]

And whose GTDA they put ?! Really mastered ?!

And what other options can there be?

[Errr]

Quote: svan26

And whose GTDA they put ?! Really mastered ?!

On "Saturn", they are gradually riveting M90FR without Ukrainian components.

[Alexey-74]

Well, as they say in a good way! Good luck to our shipbuilders!

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Good sign: once laid - it means that the problem of power plants is solved!

[Kurare]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Good sign: once laid - it means that the problem of power plants is solved!

And yes and no, since the fully Russian power plant has not yet been tested. Let's hope that all tests will pass with "Hurray!"

Another good thing is that they will continue to produce what the "dog ate" on, ie. project 22350, and not with the letter "M". It is good if you first close the existing gaps with this beautiful frigate before moving on to something new. Moreover, for 2235M a new power plant will be required, with all the ensuing consequences.

[hroft]

It turns out that there will be 8 of them? Or 6 all the same ..

[Bashkirkhan]

8 pieces of Project 22350 frigates, as originally planned to replace 8 old Soviet Project 1155 BPKs.

[kepmor]

probably 4 in the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet ... not a lot ... just two inferior brigades ...

[Ru_Na]

Well add to them the planned 12 ships of 22350M.

[kepmor]

the key word is "planned" ...
If these 8 are put into operation at least by 30, then it is good ... and the "planned" 12 by the middle of the century are at best ...

[Grits]

Quote: Ru_Na

Well add to them the planned 12 ships of 22350M.

So, after all, no one is going to write off the BOD either. Will serve more. They are also planning to be called frigates after repair or modernization.

[alexmach]

But nothing prevents a couple more from laying. Information slipped that the North Shipyard can simultaneously work with 6 hulls.

[bayard]

This spring, 2 more buildings will be laid, and they will work immediately with 6 buildings - 2 pcs. laid last year and 2 more are preparing for the descent \ install a power plant.

[alexmach]

Do not forget about 20386, it takes one place in the same place.

[bald]

It's great! They are not Chinese stamping, although we do it professionally for a long time, we are witnesses to this. Damn, not the topic, in politics is not very mature.

[Essex62]

In which, internal al external?

[bald]

Do you want to pin me up? It’s not necessary, I’ll tell you the truth, I took part in it, but you don’t, it’s not important.

[bald]

and I took care of my

[Essex62]

And in my thoughts there was no pinching, and who participated in what we will not discuss. Why so straight off "but you are not," sure?
I wanted to understand what it was about. If the dreams of Masons, so that there were resources and there were no Russians in this territory, they break off. We glaze all areas of their habitation, let them sit in bunkers until the end of the century.
And the ships are very necessary, someone argues.

[bald]

Sorry, the drunk was upset.

[G. Georgiev]

What is the problem of Russian engineers. Why does this frigate carry only 16 missiles? American "Arleigh Burke" and Chinese "Type 055" carry from 112 to 122 pieces.

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: G. Georgiev

American and Chinese frigates carry between 60 and 122

If only destroyers. The frigates do not carry so much. Project 054A Chinese frigates have a 32-cell vertical launcher for air defense systems and two four-container launchers for anti-ship missiles YJ-83.

[Thrifty]

Georgiev, this is not about missiles in general, but about, say, anti-shipable missiles now 16, and will be 24. There the total number of missiles is much higher!

[Artemiy_2]

What is the problem of Russian engineers. Why is this frigate carrying only 16 missiles. American and Chinese frigates carry between 60 and 122

You're not right. Chinese and American frigates carry 600 to 1220 missiles

[Last centurion]

the main thing is not to bear. and get in. last time the tomahawks fell into the Syrian desert. well, everyone remembers

[Grits]

Quote: Artemiy_2

You're not right. Chinese and American frigates carry 600 to 1220 missiles

You're not right. They also carry 20 helicopters each.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Artemiy_2

Chinese and American frigates carry 600 to 1220 missiles

Well, as a smart guy, give ONE example, the hint is smart !! (learn materiel)

[Artemiy_2]

Do you know a word like sarcasm?

[Nastia makarova]

but what, 16 missiles = -16 ships))))

[ultra]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

but what, 16 missiles = -16 ships)

Well, if those 16 are bulk carriers or tankers, then yes.

[Nastia makarova]

will look cool

[Grits]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

but what, 16 missiles = -16 ships))))

Make a small correction to the air defense of the enemy ship. "Onyx", of course, is a wonderful racket, and the adversary is not a bastard.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

The problem for Russian engineers is G. Georgiev, who is too lazy to google "project 22350" and find out that the first ships of this type carry 48 launch cells for missiles, and that the destroyer is a much more powerful ship than a frigate, but also larger and more expensive ...

[bald]

I never put the cons I don’t want to repeat - let us do it for a long time, but reliably and not one bastard will not be able to get ahead of us. FILL IN. I WAS IN NAK.

[bald]

FORGIVE ME.

[bayard]

Quote: G. Georgiev

Why does this frigate carry only 16 missiles? American "Arleigh Burke" and Chinese "Type 055" carry from 112 to 122 pieces.

For Americans and Chinese, both CR and SAM are counted in bulk, if we assume the same for 22350+, we get 24 KR + 32 UVP SAM = 56. And given that there can be up to 4 missiles in the cells for missiles (up to 128 9M100 missiles), the modest frigate looks very armed.

[bald]

Nonsense said evenly, but you know that on the 80th our carriers had 24 warheads, I came across, although not by rank.

[Piramidon]

Two more frigates of project 22350 will be built at Severnaya Verf

We started the production of our gas turbine engine and the process began.

[Luty]

First of all, this platform’s ship and the effectiveness of the Navy’s actions depend not on the uniqueness of individual masterpieces, but on the number of serial balanced units. And MRCs are currently of two types in construction. We also want to build another type of frigates. except 11356 and 22350. Something that reminds throwing before 1905.

[Lamata]

and the terms for building 4 units voiced? real ones. rather than moving right.

[Connor MacLeod]

Here is the fleet ...

06 × 23560
12 × 22350
24 × 20385

06 × 885
12 × 545
24 × 677

[lvov_aleksey]

let fart star-striped

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Luty

First of all, this platform’s ship and the effectiveness of the Navy’s actions depend not on the uniqueness of individual masterpieces, but on the number of serial balanced units. And MRCs are currently of two types in construction. We also want to build another type of frigates. except 11356 and 22350. Something that reminds throwing before 1905.

If you want to remember the battle of Herosima, you are very wrong, even our RTOs from the Caspian have unanimously beaten where necessary. And most importantly, everyone trembled, I liked it.
ps If about frigates, I’ll simply say - they won’t let you down. I know one cruiser who has never been in battle, nothing is alive, but they are still proud of him !!!

[Sapsan136]

The new frigates can be named in honor of the Russian admirals - Sukhotin Yakov Filippovich and Alexander Ivanovich Cruz ...

[Charik]

But isn’t it better to pr.885 instead of 22350 nuclear submarines (price-qty KR) ???

[storm]

While the designers will be "finishing up" the project of the destroyer 22350M and "registering" hypersonic Zircons and missiles with a range of 400 km there, another 6 units should be laid in parallel on the unloaded Yantar. Project 22350U with 24 launchers with a total batch of 18 units.

The real need of the Navy in the construction of at least 30 units. warships in the ocean zone are long overdue and require their solution up to 35g when the last large Soviet-built ships will be decommissioned.
SF - 6 units. pr 22350 + 6 units pr 22350M
Pacific Fleet - 6 units. pr 22350 + 6 units pr 22350M
Black Sea Fleet - 6 units pr 22350