Putin and Lukashenko agree in Sochi on problematic issues

Today, negotiations are held in Sochi between the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin and the President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko. It is assumed that the discussion will be heated, as it will have to resolve a number of differences between the two countries.

The press service of the presidential administration announced that the meeting is dedicated to resolving issues of bilateral cooperation, including integration processes in the framework of the creation of the Union State.

The Belarusian press service calls the purpose of the meeting more specifically. They claim that the presidents meet to resolve a wide range of issues in Russian-Belarusian cooperation.

It is assumed that the main topic of the negotiations will be the discussion of prices for Russian oil and gas supplied to Belarus. Moreover, Lukashenko, counting on the reciprocal steps of Moscow, categorically does not want to share the sovereignty of his state.

The increase in oil prices due to Russia's tax maneuver not only provoked an angry reaction from Minsk, but also led to its search for alternative suppliers to Belarus of this important raw material. The topic was touched upon even during the visit of US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

At the same time, Lukashenko believes that it is very important for Belarus and Russia to maintain good neighborly relations, the foundation of which he and Vladimir Putin managed to lay:

A moment of truth has come. We created this good relationship with him. We were architects of these relationships, whether we should break them at the end of our political career. We are not eternal. What we leave behind is the question.

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[Sergey39]

Lukashenko came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo, or to give up.

[Mikhail m]

Asses are sorely lacking in two chairs, we have to fidget so that the place is not lost.

[AU Ivanov.]

From fidgeting on two chairs, the ass may crack.

[Thrall]

The first gas carrier from the USA proceeded through the Minsk Sea and entered the mouth of the Svisloch

[AU Ivanov.]

They are in vain. Shrimp population in the Belarusian Sea under threat.

[Thrall]

Shrimp in the Belarusian Sea around the clock guarded by 2 Russian submarines

[Astoria]

Yes, only LNG is bought by Poland under a contract until 2022, at which prices the Poles ventured to voice.

[Sky strike fighter]

Lukashenka came to build a "union" socially oriented state, albeit for someone else's money and in his own country.

[To be or not to be]

1. In the Russian Federation, the capitalist system is clear .. In the Republic of Belarus they seem to talk about the socialist
How can you combine a hedgehog with a snake?
2. "The main topic of the talks will be the discussion of prices for Russian oil and gas supplied to Belarus. At the same time, Lukashenko, counting on the reciprocal steps of Moscow, categorically does not want to share the sovereignty of the state he heads."
If the market .to and the market forms the prices of goods and demand in this market. The rest5 from ..the evil ..

[Sanichsan]

Quote: To be or not to be

1. In the Russian Federation, the capitalist system is clear .. In the Republic of Belarus they seem to talk about the socialist
How can you combine a hedgehog with a snake?

easy! if you understand that in Belarus there is never a socialist structure

[To be or not to be]

SanichSan (Alexander) Today, 14:16
Then that one .. personal plane and carpet for him with an honor guard ..

[Sergej1972]

And where, in what official document of Belarus it is said about socialism?

[Lamata]

The constitution does not say so. there is a variety of ideologies

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: To be or not to be

2. "The main topic of the talks will be the discussion of prices for Russian oil and gas supplied to Belarus. At the same time, Lukashenko, counting on the reciprocal steps of Moscow, categorically does not want to share the sovereignty of the state he heads."
If the market .to and the market forms the prices of goods and demand in this market.

We have already agreed on the price of gas at the level of 2019.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

build a "union" socially oriented state, though for other people's money and in their own country

Rather, it is preparing for its own re-election in the summer of 2020, which is impossible if you do not agree in advance with the financial and informational support of the Russian Federation. All the same, most Belarusians vote for an alliance with Russia.

[Ivan Ivanov]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lukashenka came to build a "union" socially oriented state, albeit for someone else's money and in his own country.

Unfortunately, we do not want to build it (the social state), with our own money, in our own country.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: IvanIvanov

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lukashenka came to build a "union" socially oriented state, albeit for someone else's money and in his own country.

Unfortunately, we do not want to build it (the social state), with our own money, in our own country.

Do not interpret correctly. No, in Belarus, of course, the echo of socialism after the collapse of the USSR is more visible than in Russia, but this prosperity is maintained at the expense of Russia, where this echo is becoming quieter. Over 20 years, Belarus has received support in the amount of 133 billion dollars through the provision of preferential prices for energy resources. 10 million people live there, and the occupied territory cannot be compared with the territory of Russia. If the same 133 billion were pumped into the Pskov and Smolensk regions, then they could also be safely called a showcase of successful Russia in the western direction. It would be okay, not a stranger to us, but when remarks like that Russia wants to swallow up this paradise begin to sound from there, I want to remind you that they lose sight of the fact that this paradise became possible thanks to Russia. Ukraine tore off its "paradise" from Russia, now it is putting up its land for sale.

[Tersky]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lukashenka came to build a "union" socially oriented state, albeit for someone else's money and in his own country.

He stupidly does not realize that compensation for losses incurred due to a tax maneuver is possible, but they are received by Russian refineries. They are paid, but not to foreign enterprises, which are Belarusian factories. There simply are no legal grounds on which Russia would pay something to another state.

[Alexga]

Lukashenko came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo, or to give up.

Not a fact, Luka has nowhere to go. Will stand to death.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: AlexGa

Will stand to death.

In the pose in which he was placed?

[Sergey39]

Quote: AlexGa

Not a fact, Luka has nowhere to go

And he has nowhere to go. If there is no oil, they’ll ride in the elections.

[Alexga]

Sergey, the most amazing thing, they won’t do it; on the contrary, the Old Man is fighting for the people. Oh, such a mentality in rb.

[Eragon]

Quote: AlexGa

Lukashenko came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo, or to give up.

Not a fact, Luka has nowhere to go. Will stand to death.

To death, until the last Belarusian? Something I do not want.
The ideas of the USA are already known. Commands to use oil reserves are given. Most likely give up.
Although it would be better to capitulate. I'm sick of you. He is king, not a dictator.

[Alexga]

I don’t think it will fight, though, time will tell

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: AlexGa

I don’t think it will fight, though, time will tell

And he has nowhere to go. Russia chose the WTO and the alignment of energy prices to world prices, and Kazakhstan, too, so you, citizens of Belarus, are in splendid isolation. This fight is obviously losing. Don Quixote had even more chances. I don’t understand, do we have a climate like in Italy-Spain? By the way, as the general director of AvtoVAZ (who is a Swede) blurted out that the cost of Zhiguli is 50 thousand rubles, and employees, commenting on this opus, said that due to heating, the price increases.

[_Sergei_]

There, since 2018, the director is French.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: _Sergey_

There, since 2018, the director is French.

Exactly. Wasn't Andersson asked for these words?

[_Sergei_]

He was asked for what he West and X-ray did not give a move. For him, Largus had a light in the window.

[Mordvin 3]

This is an official opinion. And as it actually was, they are unlikely to be told to us.

[210ox]

Such meetings should be organized in the Crimea.

[Alexga]

Of course, it is possible in the Crimea, only then Kiev with Donbass and Lugansk will negotiate in Berlin-Paris-Warsaw. Who needs this alignment? Although, it is beneficial for someone.

[210ox]

Yes, even on Mars. All the same, from these negotiations, the sense of 0

[Naughty]

I think that the dad will beg for some "buns" from the GDP. And then he will start his own disc about independence again

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Sergey39

Lukashenko came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo, or to give up.

Luca came to haggle! In the 90s, well, life was very good for them, when Russia paid its debts for the entire "Unbreakable Union". We have created a "union" state, but there is nothing in common except talk. There the states are a confederation and they are not blowing! But no, Luka does not want to be the "last president" of sovereign Belarus, he wants to be a tsar, and so that the prices of non-energy carriers are the same as in Russia. So why should we be afraid to feed our brothers, when our pensioners are barely making ends meet !?
Well, and then the "cunning fox" began to wag its tail in search of an alternative ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

In the 90s, well, life was very good for them, when Russia paid its debts for the entire "Unbreakable Union".

Only in the 90s, Russian politicians presented it precisely as a victory for Russia. Like, we get more money than we pay. Yeah, we got from these Papuans, just stick out a pocket. Gaidar laughs in a coffin spinning. Former allies were smarter. At first, they wanted to divide the debts between the republics.

[Sergej1972]

The United States is a strong federation, not a confederation. They have a federal budget larger than the budget of all states and municipalities combined.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Sergey39

Lukashenko came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo, or to give up.

Luca came to haggle! In the 90s, well, life was very good for them, when Russia paid its debts for the entire "Unbreakable Union". We have created a "union" state, but there is nothing in common except talk. There the States is a confederation and they don’t blow a must! But no, Luka does not want to be the "last president" of sovereign Belarus, he wants to be a tsar, and so that the prices of non-energy carriers are the same as in Russia.
So with what fright should we feed our brothers when our pensioners live, barely barely making ends meet !?
Well, and then the "cunning fox" began wagging his tail in search of an alternative ... Not to mention that he hugs the "non-brothers", so he also decided to look into the mouth of the Yankees! Wow "ally"!

[Bashkirkhan]

The requirements are known - not a single resident of Belarus, not a single enterprise should feel the consequences of all kinds of maneuvers of our partners, ”said Lukashenko. Everyone has long been accustomed to the fact that only the inhabitants of Russia should feel the consequences of all kinds of maneuvers and take this for granted.

[shark]

At the expense of the Russian peasant, everyone wants to live well. Have got yourself parasites.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

Everyone has long been accustomed to the fact that only the inhabitants of Russia should feel the consequences of all kinds of maneuvers and take this for granted.

And why does the Russian leadership allow this?

[1959ain]

Putin needs to be reminded to Lukashenko that the fate of Gaddafi, Assad, Miloshivich, Yanukovych, if not dancing with a tambourine in front of the United States, would still be hanged

[Humpty]

Quote: 1959ain

Putin needs to be reminded to Lukashenko that the fate of Gaddafi, Assad, Miloshivich, Yanukovych, if not dancing with a tambourine in front of the United States, would still be hanged

It’s like ... to the President of Kazakhstan, Putin casually announced it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mkj-NAOUEQ .
Probably will not repeat itself.
I don’t know and don’t want to know what kind of image Lukashenko has among people in Belarus, only one thing about him is like him, let's say favorites, he’s obvious that he’s not sad, in the literal sense.
Could, as a positive person, go down in history, but it seems not destiny.

[x.andvlad]

Judging by the photo, the conversation, indeed, was not cheerful.
"... We are not eternal. What we leave behind is the question."
Here I am about the same. Whether Belarus will remain with Russia after the "father" is the question.
If anti-Russian forces hatch there, the West will kiss them passionately, and will forget about all kinds of "dictatorships."

[Karaul73]

The Russians do not give up!

[prior]

The Russians do not give up, they surrender ...
They handed over the tsar, handed over Stalin, handed over socialism, handed over the USSR, handed over space ... handed over pensioners, medicine, education ..... handed over brothers and allies ... and further down the list ...

[Alekseev]

Quote: Sergey39

came either to voice the ideas of Pompeo,

Sounds found oil for free or not?
In fact, not only Lukashenko, but many other figures from the former allies are very peculiar guys.
After all, it has been said a thousand times, and most importantly, it has been confirmed in practice that the successful development of their economies requires close integration with the Russian Federation for historical, geographic and, really prevailing, economic reasons. Only raw materials and markets may be needed to the west of them, and Russophobia can also be sold, but this is only worse for the bulk of the population. And mechanical engineering and electronics are not needed there, not even bad - there is one, and there is also China. It is also clear to the horse that Moscow will play the first fiddle in the integration processes. After all, a bear, and not, for example, a badger, is also a good beast, the owner of the taiga.
But how ... give us, and we'll see ... how it's better. Moreover, they will deign to show discontent. Either they put them with cancer, then they feed Peter (you might think they are forced to give "feed" for free, then they subsidize the Russian Federation, having only debts to it, then oil is expensive, take it cheaper, oil on the market and a fig, sometimes becomes cheaper.
This is not the case, and it seems that a sober and pragmatic approach has begun to prevail.

[Thrifty]

After those spitting on Russia from Lukashenka, common sense demanded at least postponing the meeting, or canceling it! The result will be a lack of result "the parties agreed that they will continue to take steps to solve problems" ... blah, blah, blah. ..shortly speaking! It was possible instead of this meeting to talk on the phone, at best. ..

[Alexga]

Quote: Thrifty

After those spitting on Russia from Lukashenka, common sense demanded at least postponing the meeting, or canceling it! The result will be a lack of result "the parties agreed that they will continue to take steps to solve problems" ... blah, blah, blah. ..shortly speaking! It was possible instead of this meeting to talk on the phone, at best. ..

Therefore, it is likely that the board cannot fly out of Moscow due to the weather.

[maidan.izrailovich]

... common sense required ...

Common sense requires that Russia control (influence) political processes in adjacent territories. At least for a start.
What kind of "world power" is it that any estonia or latvia can kick?

[Sky strike fighter]

do we break them at the end of our political career. We are not eternal. What we leave behind is the question.

Is the era of change coming?

[A.K.]

I agree. And it has already begun.

[Berber]

For all of us (Russia, Belarus, Ukraine), it is very important that we come together. And Putin, when he spoke of a great geopolitical disaster in connection with the division of the USSR, made an unambiguous message to the whole world of the USSR - to be. No matter what it will be called, but unification is inevitable.
You can say a lot that the Ukrainians are "skakuas", the Russians are "vatniks", etc. (In the civil war, there were also a lot of everyone - white, red, green, Petliura, Makhnovists ...) This does not change anything. We'll get over and be stronger. And our spiteful critics (again, I quote Putin) - "will simply die."
My firm conviction.

[Sky strike fighter]

Forgot to quote about Paradise.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Forgot to quote about Paradise.

If the holy man clicks,
Throw you Russia, live in Paradise!
I will answer - Paradise is not necessary,
Give my homeland.

[Mik1701]

After the civil war, all those who did not suit the Reds were shortened by the head. They did not try to untie the knot, they chopped it. And these were hundreds of thousands of people. It is not that simple.

[Berber]

Well, let’s say this, present times are not like that. The main thing is not to make sudden movements, and when necessary, to act decisively, as with the Crimea. And I think there will not be so much blood. The main task is not to get into any protracted conflicts. The longer we hold out, the less resources our opponents will have.

[Mik1701]

Belarusians are not Ukrainians. And Crimea was an autonomous republic within Ukraine, with the main population represented by the Crimean Tatars. With Belarus, Hochma with the Crimea will not work.

[Berber]

"Do not wash, so by rolling" is all the same. There is no other way. No, well, you can follow the path of losses, economic, demographic, etc. This is what we are talking about now, that the "father" must decide which path to choose. Examples of "free and independent" not far - the Baltic countries, Ukraine, Georgia.

[Humpty]

Quote: Mik1701

Crimea was an autonomous republic within Ukraine with the main population represented by Crimean Tatars

In the face of the Russians.

Quote: Mik1701

With Belarus

Sorry, but I don’t understand what kind of surgeik you use.

Quote: Mik1701

With Belarus, Hochma with the Crimea will not work.

According to this, even the military of Belarus conducted exercises on how to counter the hybrid threat of Strelkov. With a sense of humor in Russia, everything is in order, they are not repeated anywhere.

[Mik1701]

Have you seen Crimea until the age of 14 only in the news?

[Sergej1972]

The main population of Crimea is Russians, Great Russians. And as part of Ukraine, he was perceived really as Russian, not Crimean Tatar autonomy.

[Mik1701]

Crimean Tatars will disagree with you. They are the indigenous population of the peninsula.

[Sergej1972]

The main population is one that prevails numerically. Crimean Tatars in Crimea are in a clear minority. The majority of the population, the majority of deputies, officials, security officials, teachers, doctors, businessmen in Crimea are Russians. And in Karelia, and in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, and in Khakassia, and in Buryatia, the main population is precisely Russians.

[Mik1701]

Until the age of 14, it was different. Now yes .

[Sergej1972]

Krymchaks and Karaites are also indigenous peoples of Crimea. So what?

[Mik1701]

And the fact that it was called the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, with the Crimean Tatar population. The story however.

[Sergej1972]

And two-thirds of the Russian population were before 2014.

[Disant]

Crimea was an autonomous republic within Ukraine with the main population represented by Crimean Tatars

for 2014, there were 11 percent of Crimean Tatars, 65 Russians, 15 Ukrainians

[Sirocco]

Lukashenko has recently been reminded of the cartoon hero from Mowgli, not letting not be taken. As on habits and externally.))))
Or you can compare with this fragment the actions of the authorities of former neighbors in the social camp))))

[iouris]

"Before uniting, we must decisively delimit ourselves" (V. I. Lenin)

[Zaurbek]

It is good that they began to tie our requests to the gods from our cooperation. So it will become easier to live in the CIS. And then give money, but we are independent.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The moment of truth is coming: either Lukashenka is with Russia, or against. The alignment is clear: Luca will continue to play tricky, play around and try to knock out more "sweets" and not go anywhere in order to play tricks in the old way. Putin, it seems, should put the question bluntly: either - or. Either an ally is official and you get all the privileges of an ally - or NOT an ally and you go on a free voyage. I do not exclude the conclusion of a secret but clear agreement. So it seems to me.

[AlexVas44]

Your words yes to our god in the ears

[Sergey39]

Most likely it will. Secretly they will sign an agreement - and each people will speak their own. The main thing that would be the result.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

either Lukashenko with Russia, or against.

And I am for the position of Lukashenko. I don’t understand why we got into the WTO, I don’t understand why we need the Bologna system, I don’t understand why we need to align energy prices to world prices. We will finalize our production with this.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mordvin 3

I don’t understand why we need the Bologna system, I don’t understand why we need to align energy prices to world prices.

Citizens forum users. All these actions are precisely in accordance with the requirements of the IMF, the European Union and the WTO countries, which we have joined. Want to pay for heating like in Berlin-London? I understand that I didn’t get into the stream, only here all the enterprises that were closed under Putin, at which I worked, started precisely with debts for the communal flat. By the way, I terribly did not like to work on the machines in the workshop without heating.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Mordvin 3

By the way, I terribly did not like working at the machines in the workshop without heating.

I wonder who is minus? Those heroes of labor who are ready to stand in the cold minus thirty behind the machine, as in the Great Patriotic War, warming up the machine in the morning with wood or a cutter? God help you, maybe you’ll survive sometime before retirement. Boots just stock up, so as not to scatter. Here Ivanov is outraged by the Old Man, and he thought what would happen to his (Ivanov) production at world prices? Can he compete with the same Italian manufacturers? On one dryer wood will not go bankrupt in its Nizhny Novgorod? However, for wood macs, drying wood is not necessary.

[rotmistr60]

The urgency of the visit may indicate that Lukashenko finally understood the main thing - blackmail will not work again. And he managed to say a lot about the pose in which Belarus was put, and the dictates of Russia, and about alternative purchases of oil (did they buy a lot and when will they be delivered?), And much more. Now it’s just necessary to at least somehow work back and once again recall the protection of the western border, the fraternal people, a joint victory in the Second World War and, of course, a union state ... Maybe it’s a ride.

[210ox]

I don’t think so. This has been going on for decades. And usually everything went away. For a while, ours tightened the nuts, but then released.

[Humpty]

Quote: rotmistr60

at least somehow work back and once again recall the protection of the western border, the fraternal people, a joint victory in the Second World War and, of course, a union state ... Maybe it’s a ride.

Do you think that Lukashenko will guard the western border, or is this a joke? Especially after his statements about the Second World War and other wars of the 19-20 centuries.
Sincerely .

[Cowbra]

Like this

[Horon]

There will be no unification of Belarus and Russia, since this is not necessary for the elites of both states. Songs about unification are only for the electorate to popularize their actions. And the electorate, believing in fairy tales about "unsuccessful attempts to unite through the fault of the opposite side," will soon quarrel so much that they themselves will abandon such ideas.

[Sergey39]

Yes, do not care about these elites. Neither Putin nor Lukashenko has ever been interested in this.

[Horon]

This will not even interest those who come after them. No use for the elites, but a lot of fuss. And so that ordinary citizens disappear such thoughts, they will imitate violent activity with mutual accusations. The same technologies as with Ukraine, at first incite against "bad power at the neighbor", and then relatives look at each other like a wolf. And the fact that ordinary people do not care about the elites ..., after all, the elites have long spit on people.

[mark_rod]

I see nothing wrong with letting their only remaining faithful ally give this pre-fucking oil at our prices, and not forgive billions of dollars to some obscure Papuans who will sell friendship as soon as possible! Nothing would happen to our oil oligarchs. Do not become poor!

[Thrifty]

Only now the pseudo-oligarchs think differently! They are beaten by every unsuccessful five-copeck coin in your heart — have you decided to put them on the loot even more?

[Tzar]

That's the problem, that loyalty and alliance in a deep crisis .... Papuans are also not just writing off debts.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

So they gave this very oil, for many years. But what exactly did Belarus do as an ally? What actions did she confirm her alliance with?

[Mik1701]

What was she supposed to do? Being a sovereign country and free people.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

This is interesting to me, and therefore asked.
Or do you think that Russia is obliged to provide Belarus with oil and gas at domestic prices only because Lukashenko will periodically declare an alliance. and all? Oil and gas in exchange for just words?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mik1701

What was she supposed to do? Being a sovereign country and free people.

well, like this sovereign state - sovereign prices.
Either the fraternal people reinforce their fraternity with a deed, and for this they have preferences from Russia.
Either the fraternal people behave as a sovereign state - and then Russia does not interfere in its affairs and builds relations with Belarus as with any other state. At world prices.

You can’t take 6 billion dollars from the budget of Russia every year like brotherly people and after denying any services to Russia under the pretext of the sovereignty of the Belarusian state.
Either underpants or a cross. ©

[jetfors_84]

It is not the oligarchs who pay for this friendship, but you and I. Everything comes from our taxes.
And I would not mind seeing the response of the Belarusian leadership to the association. And it seems that we are not helping Belarusians, but dad is sitting in an armchair.

[SNEAKY]

How can I, as a Belarusan, be tired of these shameful swings for the third decade. Well, Lukashenko does not have an independent economy, which means that the politician is just as worthless. But after all.
As recently, someone here just noticed that the pipes lie through a dozen countries, and every year only Belarus and the Outskirts have children’s tantrums. Quite the contrary.

[businessv]

Quote: SNEAKY

tantrums of children every year only in Belarus and the outskirts

Not so categorically, colleague! Only your country and, in part, Kazakhstan have retained their technical, scientific and technological potential, unlike everyone else, including Russia. For this alone, you can forgive and children's tantrums, and inconsistent flunking But father. A small country, a small resource base, but the country lives and works, unlike, as you put it, the Outskirts, which was one of the ten most industrialized countries in the world, owning space, nuclear, electronic technologies, and now raises the question of selling the last remaining resource - land! So not everything in your country is so bad, colleague!

[SNEAKY]

Objectively, you are of course right. But there is always a "BUT"! At this period of modern history, the republic does not live, but exists thanks to external borrowing, "fraternal" prices for energy resources, as well as an open huge market with the Russian Federation. to put it bluntly, feeding in my opinion some kind of top of inadequacy, where politics does not smell.
It’s worth, of course, to add here more than once what was said by fairly intelligent people. If only Lukashenko, where he was openly well done and rather gently led the country through the 90s, albeit again from Russia. with donations, he took it and in the new millennium began to pursue a policy-economy in step with the times, then there would not have been a current disaster in the Republic of Belarus along with wild cries that the Kama Sutra is for love by consent. And the first president would be remembered with a kind word. But she would see power such worse alcohol (drug number 1).

[businessv]

Quote: SNEAKY

the new millennium began to pursue a policy-economy in step with the times, then there would not be a current disaster in the Republic of Belarus along with wild cries that the Kama Sutra is for love by consent

100% to the point! But people of this type have limitations and stereotypes of thinking, so Father Butler simply cannot do more than has already been done - there is not enough knowledge or will. He cannot refuse power, but how to prove that everyone still needs him, he also does not know, hence the problem in my opinion. I do not know, but do you think there is an alternative to him in power?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: SNEAKY

Nasty already.

Work in the workshop without heating, I'll see what you say then.

[rotkiv04]

Why, oil from Norway also did not fit for Father But? So there is still Pundosovskaya

[Po-tzan]

Putin and Lukashenko agree in Sochi on problematic issues

I wonder if the GDP will fall under Luka or send Belarus to drift towards the EU and NATO?

[Mountain shooter]

I put on GDP. The collective farm chairman is weak before the KGB colonel ...

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The collective farm chairman is weak before the KGB colonel ...

For several decades, the chairman of the state farm managed to obtain subsidies and preferences from the KGB lieutenant colonel, each time finding the reasons why Russia should support Belarus, starting from NATO near Smolensk and ending in the trenches, we sat together. I don’t even know what the chairman will come up with especially after he spoke in the direction of Russia, maybe he’ll tell me the elections, let me at least get re-elected, help me with cheap oil and gas, otherwise the economy will be bent, and the lieutenant colonel will understand authorities.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Anatol Klim

For several decades, the chairman of the state farm managed to obtain subsidies and preferences from the KGB lieutenant colonel,

Wiki claims that Colonel

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Wiki claims that Colonel

No not like this. Putin left the USSR KGB in 1991 with the rank of lieutenant colonel and went to Sobchak. Yeltsin assigned the rank of colonel to Putin when he was appointed director of the FSB of Russia in 1998, Yeltsin wanted to assign Putin the rank of general, but Putin refused, he said they would not understand me correctly in the office.
You wrote in your comment:

in front of the KGB colonel.

But Putin has never been a colonel of the KGB of the USSR, he was a colonel of the FSB of the Russian Federation, agree not the same thing.

[Sergst]

Quote: mark_rod

I see nothing wrong with letting their only remaining faithful ally give this pre-fucking oil at our prices ...

Why is Belarus a "faithful ally"?

[mark_rod]

Quote: Sergst

Quote: mark_rod

I see nothing wrong with letting their only remaining faithful ally give this pre-fucking oil at our prices ...

Why is Belarus a "faithful ally"?

The people of Belarus are our ally! Do not confuse with Lukashenko. My relatives live there, so they see how they are smoothly being handed over along the way to the Outskirts.

[AU Ivanov.]

This peasant cunning Old Man will come out sideways.

[taiga2018]

A very interesting guy, of course, this Lukashenka, has said so many nasty things in recent days about supposedly fraternal Russia, and now he is going to negotiate something, and he also has the nerve to repeat the mantra about "good relations ..."

[businessv]

Moreover, Lukashenko, counting on the reciprocal steps of Moscow, categorically does not want to share the sovereignty of his state.

Why does Father Butke share the sovereignty of his country !? The Union of States does not provide for this, so this is absolutely optional! But the current economic issues, which include the tax maneuver, must be coordinated with your partners in order to avoid such awkward and affecting the economy allies, situituin!

[SNEAKY]

Hold your horses dear. Even I have known about the tax maneuver for the coming two years already !!! And the fact that Lukashenko with his power merry-go-round this time was not looking for alternative supplies, upgrading refineries, and other benefits for the country, but was too late for all these years demagogy on cowsheds and fields, then this is a problem exclusively of the Belarusian government and only it!

[businessv]

Quote: SNEAKY

Hold your horses dear. Even I have known about the upcoming tax maneuver for two years now!

In what place do you think I drove them ?! The problems of earlier agreements should be worked out by working groups, not the Presidents of the Union states! Before undertaking any economic maneuvers regarding the allies, the working groups must settle all the working issues. If this were done, no one, including you, would have stuttered about tax maneuvers that should affect only residents of the country, but in no way their foreign partners!

[Sergej1972]

A union state always implies the transfer of part of sovereignty to union structures.

[Mik1701]

Is it like in Chechnya?

[alien]

Let's not be nervous and calmly figure it out.

[morpogr]

How do you want the old man to sit on two chairs, and not how he does not want to decide. The example of Ukraine apparently does not teach him. Or does he think that he is more cunning?

[Amateur]

At the same time, Lukashenko believes that it is very important for Belarus and Russia to maintain good neighborly relations,

Getting oil at a cheap price, and then selling the diesel engine made from it to "non-brothers" despite the Moscow ban - Lukashenka outwitted himself.
Something this story reminds a story with Yukos. They also politely hinted that it was impossible to sell Russian mineral resources to amers, and he also decided that it was the coolest. How it all ended - everyone knows.
But even from a hamster driven into a corner, you can expect anything.

[jetfors_84]

Architect damn ...

[Maestro Alexander]

The AHL has already begun negotiations on oil supplies from Kazakhstan. His retinue came to Nur Sultan on this issue.

[Ros 56]

Probably oil will be delivered from Kazakhstan to Belarus by tankers or what?

[Maestro Alexander]

Are other means of transport unknown? Railway or pipeline do not exist?

[Uncle Izya]

Here's the online buy-in comments of zmagars, truthfuls))
I hope they will not give more free oil. It's time to start living within our means, without palaces.

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People forgot that Belarusian oil refineries would shut down altogether and they would buy imported gasoline at world prices, or even more expensive products would rise in price for them, the worse the better

[Vlad5307]

Quote: AlexGa

Sergey, the most amazing thing, they won’t do it; on the contrary, the Old Man is fighting for the people. Oh, such a mentality in rb.

At the same time, officials are successfully "privatizing" entire industries, such as sugar refiners. And what kind of socialism is this, living on subsidies from the Russian Federation. Maybe it’s enough to crawl your booty between two chairs, so it will not take long to break it. A full-fledged union state is more profitable for both the Present RB and the Russian Federation!
and the defense capability is higher for such a state. Lukashenka's small-town patriotism smells bad of belmaidan, on which some figures from the "partners" and local pro-Western liberals are working.

[Wolf]

A lot of comments and it is clear to the side that the media "well" work out the mood of the people! And sometimes the question is, is it true what the media is disclosing? There are many comments that Lukashenka is building a social state with other people's money. Have you forgotten how the garbage from Ukraine was separated from Russia ??? The slogan was Ukraine feeds Rusiu !!! Just a little brain is needed and everything will be clear, BUT 5 AND 6 COLUMN WORKS FULLY AND WITHOUT PUNISHMENT !!! ;)

[Wolf]

Can you understand where it is ??? From the beginning, dressed Rus, then there is the destruction of the country and people, as in Ukraine !!!

[Wolf]

When the 5th and 6th columns finish with the divisions of Ukraine and Belarus from Rus, then the division of Rus will begin and a military attack on Rus is possible? We are Slavs of the Orthodox Church and no Gref, Zelensky, Kolomeyski, Poroshenko, etc. will not be able to dictate the terms of cooperation between us !!! THE BASIS OF PRESETS FOR OUR DESTRUCTION IS DIVISION OF OUR PEOPLE IN SMALL PIECES, AND THEN THE GARBAGE WILL DESTROY ONE ONE PIECE !!!
You don’t need a lot of brain just a little bit and everything will be clear !!!

[Wolf]

Forget about the official "HISTORY", for the real CHRONICLES everything is different !!! From the beginning, they transformed the entire Western Slavic tribal into Catholicism, and then used them as a weapon against other Slavs !!! and so they conquered almost all the Slavs !!! NEVER THEY COULD DEFEAT THE SLAVS IN A DIRECT BATTLE !!!

[Wolf]

VARAGIANS WERE A CAST OF SLAVES, A WAR AND WERE TRADING !!! THIS ALL WAS OUR PEOPLE AS AND TK. VIKINGS !!! ONE, XEROX PERUNA !!! only for the caste of warriors !!!

[Wolf]

In Odin, in the place of Est Perun and DayBog !!!

[Wolf]

Even today they talk about MED and write in Latin MED (MED). EVERYWHERE WHERE THE MEDOVA WAS A SLAVEN !!!

[Wolf]

MEDOVINA HAD 4-6% alcohol approximately like beer today! Vodka and hard alcohol are a genetic weapon against our people, and they forcibly brought Vodka to our people, just like the OPIUM tried to visit the Chinese !!!

[Ros 56]

How, again? But what about Pompeo, he promised to close 100%, so what is the conversation then? A man said a man did. The problem is that Luke has one - hydrocarbon.

[Chigi]

It is sad of course that the union of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus did not take place, but I would not give cheap oil and loans more than the Republic of Belarus.
Replaced Lukashenko, skimped as best he could, repeatedly.
Crimea joined the Russian Federation - it "no, we have our own political view on this issue," here at least you can objectively understand, did not want to get involved, they understood the Russian Federation, they did not pressurize. And under the guise of Ukraine, he supplied equipment and weapons ...
The Russian Federation imposed retaliatory food sanctions - in Belarus they began to "grow" exotic cheeses, "breed" shrimps, and they were driven into an arrogant sanctioning facility - very "politically friendly".
Belarus agreed to get cheap oil for its own needs and let's resell it to the international market as well as its refined products (for example, gasoline at gas stations in the Baltic states).
The Republic of Belarus did not allow the Russian Federation to organize even a military base on its territory. Oops ... I’m so sovereign ...
And now, with the first oncoming "Pompeo" tail twists and looks over the shoulder at the Russian Federation - "look - I'll be in chocolate with him" ... But not everything brown is chocolate ...

[gregor6549]

Everything as usual. It is worth two heads of two friendly (for now) states to get together, as a storm in a glass begins on VO. At the same time, the lack of accurate information about these negotiations is immediately replaced by an excess of enthusiasm. All we know is that between these leaders from time to time there are some misunderstandings that they try to solve as much as they can. Well, let them try. We will not bother them.

[Lord of the Sith]

Luka should bend, otherwise the Yankees will devour him along with the bulb. He played out and messed up a lot.

[shura7782]

categorically does not want to share the sovereignty of the state headed by him.

What then should we talk about, even if we at VO do not have a common understanding. Old Man made his "sovereignty business". Others will disentangle.

[Commandant]

After all, Old Man will accept all the conditions of Russia ... Why did he arrange this show?
Russia is all in sanctions and there is constant pressure .. Although I would verbally support us, and there they would agree ... Eh Bvtka. That you began to disappoint me .. I do not want to join the whole crowd that has been poisoning you and Belarus for some year ..
Right now liberals and Russophobes will begin to dance here .. Oh dad!

[GenNick]

I didn’t expect any other comments. If it weren’t for us, Belarusians and Belarus, you should have come up with them ...

[GenNick]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Luka should bend, otherwise the Yankees will devour him along with the bulb. He played out and messed up a lot.

Yeah, and drink your naftai ...
,, ... what a pity that they did not drop irons on the crown of your head,
I grieve for you, how little you have done ... ''

[Lamata]

Old Man again beg and blackmail arrived