Hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid are allocated to them, and XNUMXth-century weapons from overseas reporters from overseas reporters


The attention of reporters and YouTube users was attracted by a three-minute video published by the Ukrainian Channel 5 (owned by Petro Poroshenko). The video talked about the units of the Ukrainian security forces, which occupy positions in the Lugansk region - the part that is controlled by Kiev. The title of the report: “We hold the position: The echo of the battles near Krymsky reaches the Three-huts.


Users after watching the video noted that weapon, with which the Ukrainian army is fighting, not just having seen, but "antediluvian".
Such an epithet arose after flickering in the frame of a Ukrainian soldier using a Maxim machine gun.

From the report:

Vyacheslav charges the machine gun Maxim. He says that the weapon, though old, is reliable.

Ukrainian soldier:

I had practice with him at the Avdeevsky industrial zone. We served there (with a machine gun). If you follow the weapon, it will be trouble-free.



This report of Ukrainian TV was noticed even across the ocean. At the same time, American reporters are at a loss:

If the administration (American) allocates hundreds of millions of dollars (dollars) of military aid annually to them, if Ukraine itself spends more than 5% of its GDP on its army, then why are the Armed Forces servicemen not equipped with modern weapons, but are fighting the arms of the XNUMXth century before last?

So far, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine has not answered this correspondence question.
The question about old weapons in the Armed Forces was also asked by experts from the military section of The Drive.
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  1. Olgovich 7 February 2020 10: 58 New
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    Hundreds of millions of military aid is allocated to them, and the XNUMXth-century weapons of the APU are overseas reporters
    Duc, STEAL-S!
    And How!yes
    1. smart ass 7 February 2020 11: 05 New
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      Very similar to custom
      1. maidan.izrailovich 7 February 2020 11: 22 New
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        Very similar to custom

        Then there should be the latest weapons in units.
        Only besides the used police armored cars and the same second-hand coast guard boats, nothing more is known. request
        1. smart ass 7 February 2020 15: 18 New
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          Threw a bone to pray cheers to the patriots
      2. 210ox 7 February 2020 11: 57 New
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        Natural bullshit. Yes, this machine gun is good to use in stationary positions, in defense. But in a maneuverable battle to drag this stray ... Of course, give the bucks more and more. See what we are fighting.
        1. seregatara1969 7 February 2020 12: 10 New
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          But the trunk does not heat up. Add some water and that's it
          1. 210ox 7 February 2020 12: 55 New
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            And if there is no water? The bunkers provide for a supply of water for cooling and there were hand pumps. But on the battlefield, water can not always be found. We dragged the stock with me. It’s easier, of course, in winter, and there the filler neck is made wide under the snow.
            1. seregatara1969 7 February 2020 12: 59 New
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              Duc he is in the bunker and stands. Running around the field is still a pleasure. Weighs like half an armored personnel carrier
              1. vladcub 7 February 2020 14: 50 New
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                In WWII dragged and nothing.
            2. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 28 New
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              Quote: 210ox
              But on the battlefield, water can not always be found. We dragged the stock with me.

              Yes, indeed, water needs to be stocked on time. My own grandfather told me how I went for a little machine gun down into the hollow. It was hot and the battle is somewhere in the distance. He bent down to drink water from a stream, and then someone claps on the shoulder. Looks German with a Schmeiser. And grandfather has a rifle behind him. The German was mumbling something, offered to sit on the hill. He put the machine on his knees, took out his bag, chopped lard, bread, onions and offered to eat. Grandfather says - what to lose - even before she dies, she will eat fat. They ate, the German turned the rest, put it in a knapsack, stood up, patted him on the shoulder. And the grandfather cringed and waited for him to shoot in the back. The German did not shoot and hid in the bushes. Grandfather ran a little water and went back to the machine gun. Machine gunner with Mascim in place, as if nothing had happened. He says that he didn’t tell this story to anyone throughout the war.
              1. kit88 7 February 2020 16: 12 New
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                My grandfather also told.
                He was in the hospital. In one town, now an independent ochchen kkorta country in 1946. The room is on the ground floor. And the nurse from the local, as if by chance, did not close the window at night.
                Come at night through the window. Come on, they say. Well let's go.
                Come to the forest. There is their whole detachment. Sit down, they say. They offered their beer. Grandfather refused. And the conversation went "how do we give up and stay alive." My grandfather laid them out on the shelves and the change the next day was successful.
                The foreman of the MGB.
                1. shonsu 7 February 2020 18: 53 New
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                  A very likely story. They would have been shot in the war.
          2. Shurik70 7 February 2020 12: 56 New
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            Quote: seregatara1969
            But the trunk does not heat up. Add some water and that's it

            And if you don’t shoot from it, then even water is not needed.
        2. Captain Pushkin 7 February 2020 15: 46 New
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          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, this machine gun is good to use in stationary positions, in defense.

          They use it that way. At both sides.
          In the bunker, it will be more effective than any modern machine gun, at least Amer, at least ours.
      3. zloybond 7 February 2020 15: 17 New
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        So in fact they press on pity))))
      4. Jarserge 7 February 2020 16: 41 New
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        Well, yes, when Porsyonka delivered old painted tanks and planes. Now Piglet was offended that they pushed him from the trough and slept "zakazuhu"
    2. Invoce 7 February 2020 11: 07 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Hundreds of millions of military aid is allocated to them, and the XNUMXth-century weapons of the APU are overseas reporters
      Duc, theft-the same!
      And How!yes

      good good Not only the money allocated for the purchase of weapons is stolen, but they also resell from the “Partners” supplied everything that can be attributed to maintaining the database laughing
      1. Chervonny 7 February 2020 11: 32 New
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        Quote: Invoce
        Not only the money allocated for the purchase of weapons is stolen, but they also resell from the “Partners” supplied everything that can be attributed to maintaining the database laughing

        Ukraine as an independent state did not take place. And in 1917-1918 it was the same, Skoropadsky steals, Petliura steals. Currently, all the presidents of Ukraine have stolen, the turn of the clown. The state is not only a flag, coat of arms, anthem, but also the attitude of the authorities towards their country and their people. Ukraine can maintain diplomatic relations with everyone, but the attitude of foreign states that are climbing into domestic and foreign policy testifies to the dependence of Ukraine as a sovereign state. Therefore, I say: Ukraine as a state did not take place
    3. tihonmarine 7 February 2020 11: 10 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Duc, STEAL-S!
      And How!

      Well, what can you do, in Ukraine from PX, this is the second most important profession.
    4. 1959ain 7 February 2020 11: 25 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      Duc, STEAL-S!

      When this weapon goes to Europe, Smart Ukrainians do not rob Beggar Donbass, But Go to Paris to Strike and Hold Democracy, there you can rob shops in the guise, and if they fight like that, it's a European prison, not a Ukrainian gorodoshnik.
    5. nickname7 7 February 2020 11: 45 New
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      This is sabotage. Ukrainians do not want to die for the United States, sabotage. It’s more pleasant to use money for war for other purposes. Yatsenyuk, squandered in Miami money on the wall, will not lie

      1. Grits 7 February 2020 15: 35 New
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        Quote: nickname7
        Yatsenyuk, squandered money on the wall in Miami, will not let lie

        Of all the leaders of Ukraine, Senya turned out to be the smartest.
      2. ROSS_51 8 February 2020 02: 21 New
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        Skipped? Yes, to hell with two! Infa walked, as he, shortly before his retirement, held a private banquet in honor of the first billion dollars (on his accounts naturally). Then he skillfully faded, promising to return.))
        Back? Yes nafik is necessary))
    6. TermNachTer 7 February 2020 15: 51 New
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      OOOOOOOT - this is not right. They are "poked" with terrible force. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs (very underestimated), more than 3 million trunks “walk” around the country. Despite the fact that there are only a few inhabitants left, more than 30 million, i.e. every tenth has a trunk.
    7. revnagan 7 February 2020 18: 58 New
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      Quote: Olgovich
      And How!

      Yes, it’s very simple — they buy a battered boat of the Iceland type (for example, for example), at the price of a battleship, and they poke the difference in their pockets. And then: “And whoooo, whoooo did this ?!” “A” hundreds of millions-ty- bye.
  2. Ros 56 7 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    So what is unclear to these reporters, the machine gun is inconvenient to put in a pocket, money is much more convenient. laughing
  3. rotmistr60 7 February 2020 11: 03 New
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    They are allocated hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid ...
    Finally, they wondered where the money goes and the weapons that “friends of Ukraine” give out are gone. You still didn’t dig that deeply, and if you did, you were incredibly surprised. And the truth is simple - they steal, sell, even export (in black), this is what they live for. Continue to sponsor the fascist regime further.
    1. nickname7 7 February 2020 15: 39 New
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      where does the money go and weapons go

      "To whom war is mother kindred"
      The main inspirer of the nation in the war, Poroshenko, after his speeches left for the front- to the Maldives.

      Meanwhile, part of the mortars sold to Ukraine for budget money by the Poroshenko plant were torn apart, in the midst of settlement.
    2. Lelek 7 February 2020 15: 40 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      And the truth is simple - they steal, sell, even export (in black), this is what they live for.

      hi , Gennady.
      Yes it is. And steal from their own citizens for years and not millions, but billions of hryvnias. The other day, R. Miroshnik conducted an analysis of the fact that he had stolen Kiev from LDNR citizens.
    3. Gato 7 February 2020 16: 13 New
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      And the truth is simple - they steal, sell, even export

      Is that bad? Would it be better if the money was honestly spent on weapons for the eastern front? Yes, at least let everyone steal
    4. DRM
      DRM 8 February 2020 18: 49 New
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      Quote: rotmistr60
      They are allocated hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid ...
      Finally, they wondered where the money goes and the weapons that “friends of Ukraine” give out are gone. You still didn’t dig that deeply, and if you did, you were incredibly surprised. And the truth is simple - they steal, sell, even export (in black), this is what they live for. Continue to sponsor the fascist regime further.

      This question is most often asked by the authors of VO. Convenient topic for propaganda. For those who are in the know, it’s no secret that no one has allocated money from abroad for the shooting. Allocated for communication - it works fine, for medicine - also Ok, and for logistics - so-so. And “Maximov” was stored, even from Soviet times, several hundred. Do not throw away. Used permanently in bunkers.
  4. knn54 7 February 2020 11: 04 New
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    They don’t seem to know. reporters how much weapons of the 19th century ...
  5. tihonmarine 7 February 2020 11: 06 New
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    then why are the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine not provided with modern weapons, but are fighting with weapons of the XNUMXth century before last?
    Well, well, at least not a weapon from the time of Bogdan Khmelnitsky. Naive people are these Americans, they don’t understand that the help in the form of dollars doesn’t go to the army, but to the "gut".
  6. Thrifty 7 February 2020 11: 14 New
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    Let the Yankees rejoice that their accountable wards are not armed with muskets or flintlocks. ...
  7. Livonetc 7 February 2020 11: 15 New
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    Overseas journalists argue politically.
    Because the ruin increased capital and increased
    and the number of their own billionaires and millionaires.
    Only the capital of an outstanding business man pedro parashenko is worth it!
    Anyway expensive in capitalist values.
  8. Strashila 7 February 2020 11: 17 New
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    In vain they giggle, an excellent assembly. The presence of cooling allows you to fire in long bursts.
    And the quality in that era, can not be compared with modern in Dill.
    In fact, these weapons can cause a lot of trouble to the militias.
    1. mark1 7 February 2020 11: 22 New
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      I agree, the maximum in deot is terrible power, and it seems that they do not run along the fields with it.
      1. Strashila 7 February 2020 14: 00 New
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        "The maxim in deota is a terrible force", if you lift the history of the use of this machine gun during the First World War, then all the disgust was the introduction of fire from closed positions, it was not inferior to shrapnel in effectiveness.
    2. Volodin 7 February 2020 11: 23 New
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      Quote: Strashila
      In vain they giggle, an excellent assembly.

      In my opinion, no one giggles either there or here. The question is different: where is the money allocated?
    3. Kerensky 7 February 2020 12: 10 New
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      In vain they giggle, an excellent assembly. The presence of cooling allows you to fire in long bursts.

      Here are just a hatch for snow, I did not notice in the picture. In what year did it begin to be made?
      1. denplot 7 February 2020 14: 21 New
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        After the Soviet-Finnish experience in winter conditions
  9. Dmitry Potapov 7 February 2020 11: 21 New
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    This is just the case when theft is for the benefit too.
  10. Operator 7 February 2020 11: 21 New
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    Strange Question - Outskirts laughing
  11. askort154 7 February 2020 11: 23 New
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    They sell everything that turns up. Today, there are two articles on the Ukrainian branch of Korrespondent:
    - "From Ukraine they tried to export spare parts for An-2 to Sudan,"
    - In up. Boryspil detained smuggled cargo for the Boeings in the amount of 10 mln. hryvnia.
    .
  12. Andobor 7 February 2020 11: 30 New
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    GDP per capita in Ukraine is less than that of the Papuans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
    - it’s good that they are not spears.
    - But American military aid is not being abandoned by the Americans themselves and is being sawn; there are no equal Americans in the world regarding military cuts.
  13. Cowbra 7 February 2020 11: 33 New
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    then why are the armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine not provided with modern weapons, but are fighting with weapons of the XNUMXth century before last?

    C'mon ... The last one laughing
    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201608300826-irn1.htm/player/
  14. Air force 7 February 2020 11: 35 New
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    It’s not a secret to steal by itself, but it’s also important to keep such a breakthrough of the military in wartime, it’s not economically beneficial for the state, for many officials, volunteers, activists and other thieves who warm their hands in a civil war, yes , war mother dear. But for the state this is sheer loss, let’s imagine how many fighters they have 250 thousand. man, what is the salary? If you take at least $ 100 a month, it’s 25 million a month, 300 million a year, just for a salary, dress, feed, refuel equipment, in general, solid losses. But the state stubbornly spends money on it, because at the helm people put by the Americans (nonhumans). The task is to milk all the juices from the state, destroy the competitive industry, reduce the population and sell what is left to Western corporations. And of course, try to create from the remaining population, a Nazi fist against Russia (although they don’t succeed at the expense of the fist, since the Nazis are specific from Ukraine, their coolness is mainly against the unarmed population, women and children show, well, it’s like that, what teachers and students are).
  15. sergo1914 7 February 2020 12: 41 New
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    About tachanka not yet told?
  16. ddmitrij 7 February 2020 12: 48 New
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    If every warrior in Ukraine is given modern weapons, then what should the servants of the people live on? Will cost and Maxim with a Mosin rifle.
  17. baza1 7 February 2020 13: 32 New
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    Black hole.
  18. morpogr 7 February 2020 13: 50 New
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    Here are the zradniks, they’re specially weepy report like we look at the heroes than we’re kidnapping the West, and most importantly give more pennies, and they ask questions where the money was divided. laughing
  19. denplot 7 February 2020 14: 25 New
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    It's not that they steal, that’s understandable. The fact is that the supply of weapons to Ukraine by the West is already taken for granted. They don’t even hide it anymore, but are outraged that their money has been stolen.
  20. Charik 7 February 2020 15: 40 New
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    And where about the deputy chief of staff and 6 half cores of scars?
  21. Lamata 7 February 2020 16: 01 New
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    Yes fake stopudovo.
  22. tolmachiev51 8 February 2020 03: 59 New
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    Fifty-Fifty !!! 50% of them dig in America .50% of dill, so the APU uses what is available.
  23. sgr291158 8 February 2020 09: 37 New
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    And you highlight more, and then scratch your turnips, where the loot goes.
  24. 75 Sergey 9 February 2020 09: 42 New
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    It is unclear why this hero was not yet suppressed, because he does not change his position once every two minutes.
  25. Strashila 10 February 2020 06: 20 New
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    “They are allocated hundreds of millions of dollars of military assistance, and the XNUMXth century’s arms have overseas reporters,” and whoever said that they held this money in their hands, dollars go in the form of commodity assistance for the purchase of weapons. This money is in the same place as those five lard greens for the collapse of Ukraine, in the pockets of the organizers.