Exchange with Turkey: what Erdogan can change Idlib


Recently, Russian-Turkish relations have seriously deteriorated. The reason for this is the situation in Syria, or rather, in Idlib. Turkey does not want to lose control of strategically important territories. But, apparently, is preparing for an exchange.


Clashes between the Syrian and Turkish military are already taking place in Idlib province. There are losses on both sides. Meanwhile, the Turkish press like Yeni Şafak criticizes Russia: they say that he does everything that Damascus does with the support and permission of Moscow, and, accordingly, the blood of the Turkish military is on the conscience of Russia.

In addition, the Turkish and Western press constantly write about hundreds of thousands of refugees who were forced to leave Idlib as a result of Syrian-Russian shelling and are now concentrating on territories controlled by the Turkish armed forces. Accordingly, in the person of refugees Erdogan has a trump card - a humanitarian catastrophe is happening in Idlib, which means that we must put pressure on Syria and Russia in order to stop shelling of militants.

In Idlib, the Syrian Arab army, loyal to Bashar al-Assad, the legitimate president of Syria, is fighting against illegal armed groups of the so-called "Opposition". These groups are supported and sponsored by Ankara - there is no doubt about that.

Recep Erdogan simply needs the presence of militants in Idlib - he sees them not only as a counterweight to Assad, but also as a kind of armed reserve that can be used in the fight against the Kurdish militia, and even in Libya, where, according to the latest data, some of the Turkish militants were transferred from Syria .

As soon as the Syrian government forces achieve significant success in the fight against the militants in Idlib, Recep Erdogan immediately begins to put pressure on Vladimir Putin so that the Russian president influences Bashar al-Assad and another “demilitarized zone” is created in Idlib. So the Turkish president actually saves the armed groups supported by Ankara.


For Russia, the destruction of militants in Idlib is a very important task, especially considering that among them there are up to 2,5 thousand (according to various estimates) immigrants from Russia itself - from the republics of the North Caucasus, the Volga region, as well as from the post-Soviet states of Central Asia. And these militants, according to Moscow, should not return to Russia.

Interestingly, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo did not fail to support Turkey and blame Russia, Iran and Syria for attacking Idlib. At the same time, the head of the State Department expressed his condolences over the death of the Turkish military and said that the United States will always support its NATO ally. And this, in relation to the situation in Idlib, is indeed so. The United States is extremely unprofitable for official Damascus to gradually regain control over Syrian territory. Moreover, over the strategically important Idlib.

However, Russia and Turkey may come to certain agreements regarding the future fate of both Idlib and Northern Syria as a whole. So, one of the likely scenarios of events may be a kind of exchange. Turkey will abandon Idlib and will facilitate the withdrawal of pro-Turkish militants from it, while Russia and Syria will actually put up with the formation of a Turkish-controlled buffer zone in northern Syria.

For Ankara, such a zone is necessary in the framework of the fight against Kurdish formations, which are considered the main threat to the national security of the Turkish state. Actually, it was precisely on the Kurdish issue that Turkey broke up with the United States, and so much so that even after Pompeo’s statement about support for the Turks in Idlib, the Turkish media still reminded that the Pentagon “supports terrorists” (by which Kurdish militias are understood) and do not change their position will be.

Moscow is currently indifferent to the Kurdish issue. In addition, Russia may “close its eyes” to Turkey’s active actions in Libya. In response, Turkey will export (and already export) to Libya the most active and trained militants from Idlib. In Libya, they will fight against the troops of Marshal Khalifa Haftar, inevitably some of the militants will die there.

But this is the desired and most easily predicted version of the development of events. In fact, Recep Erdogan may not make such an exchange, hoping to keep both the buffer zone in northern Syria and Idlib proper. Now it’s very important for Erdogan to stop the advance of the Syrian forces in Idlib and for this he is even ready to worsen relations with Russia. One demonstrative visit to Kiev with stories about the “Ukrainian Crimea” and the greeting “Glory to Ukraine” is worth ...
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  1. paul3390 6 February 2020 12: 24 New
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    Why should we exchange the sultan for what does not belong to him? Idlib is the legitimate territory of Syria, and there is no bargain. Something Putin ousted the Ottomans ... Greyhounds aren’t according to rank, they’re scattering someone else’s bread slicer ..
    1. bessmertniy 6 February 2020 12: 45 New
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      Let him agree with Assad. They have a long life together. wink
      1. paul3390 6 February 2020 12: 48 New
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        In addition to Assad, you will have to take into account the interests of Moscow and Tehran .. As the main players in those places. And then - the Sultan will have to deal with and say Hezbollah .. And he is unlikely to like it. I'm already silent about us ..
        1. 72jora72 6 February 2020 13: 15 New
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          And then - the Sultan will have to deal with and say Hezbollah .. And he is unlikely to like it. I'm already silent about us ..
          Can we throw the Hussites there, to Turkish posts ??
        2. Altai72 6 February 2020 15: 57 New
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          Hezbollah will not even dare to hint at Turkey. Analyze, or familiarize yourself with the relevant sources, and there we are stuck in a grand boom and there is no reason for it. If the Turks leave Syria, they will be the last to leave. Otherwise, it flares up completely in the underbelly with us. Either we will negotiate, or things are bad .. It does not matter who and how much gets stuck there, but it is not beneficial to any of the external players. Assad must leave and he will leave. It's my opinion.
          1. ultra 6 February 2020 21: 54 New
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            The Turks will leave Syria, or rather they will be systematically squeezed out, which is happening now. Assad, if it leaves, it will not happen soon.
      2. Chervonny 6 February 2020 18: 40 New
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        Quote: bessmertniy
        Let him agree with Assad. They have a long life together. wink

        That the imagined sultan with Assad would negotiate? What are you, this is for him below his own "greatness" laughing
    2. 1959ain 6 February 2020 13: 21 New
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      Russia today announced the death of Russians in Syria and shelling of the Russian base. In Jerusalem, 15 Israeli soldiers were injured while hitting a car. This incident is being investigated as a terrorist attack, according to Interfax. One soldier was seriously injured, the others were slightly injured. The car was used as a ram. The driver escaped from the scene of an accident. Later, his car was found in a Palestinian area, near Bethlehem.
    3. Altai72 6 February 2020 15: 47 New
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      In fact, not only Idlib, but the whole country is the legitimate territory of Syria. Although on the maps Syria has been divided into different colors for several years. But who is not there. Let's leave the external players aside, you only look at the internal characters. Assad is legal for us, in Syria, not everyone thinks so.
  2. Gardamir 6 February 2020 12: 26 New
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    Well what can I say. It remains only to wait to find out which version of the events turned out to be accurate.
    1. Chervonny 6 February 2020 18: 42 New
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      Who knows, maybe another third option will appear.
  3. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 12: 27 New
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    The offensive in Idlib is precisely aimed at preventing the transfer of militants to Libya. In Libya, the interests of the Russian Federation and Turkey are diametrically opposed. I was pleased with the passage about Assad's legitimacy. It’s the same as choosing the President of the Russian Federation by forces of two federal districts. Erdogan does not need to exchange Idlib for the buffer zone, he already controls it. Erdogan’s friend is not afraid, he doesn’t have methods against Kostya Saprykin. And Erdogan has, he is called TP
    1. Victorio 6 February 2020 12: 39 New
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      Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
      The offensive in Idlib is precisely aimed at preventing the transfer of militants to Libya. In Libya, the interests of the Russian Federation and Turkey are diametrically opposed. I was pleased with the passage about Assad's legitimacy. It’s the same as choosing the President of the Russian Federation by forces of two federal districts. Erdogan does not need to exchange Idlib for the buffer zone, he already controls it. Erdogan’s friend is not afraid, he doesn’t have methods against Kostya Saprykin. And Erdogan has, he is called TP

      ===
      Turks support the militants, and they need to be destroyed, the rest is lyrics.
      1. bessmertniy 6 February 2020 12: 47 New
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        Erdogan wants too much. I would restrain my appetite. negative
        1. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 04 New
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          It would be nice to moderate. But for now, everything is working out for him. Perhaps he is the only one who can
          1. Xenofont 6 February 2020 14: 30 New
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            And what does he get, except for stupid rudeness to everyone? In the north he was stopped, in the west in Idlib they are squeezed to the borders and all his splashes of emotions from impotent rage! He can still crap, but given Putin’s intelligence and will, all this can be stopped.
            1. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 32 New
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              Just think and you will understand. Do not live on emotions.
              1. Xenofont 6 February 2020 14: 37 New
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                Well what are you nonsense here mosque. If you want to state a thought, express it clearly.
                1. Altai72 6 February 2020 16: 07 New
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                  And in my opinion, comrade Menuhin set out everything as intelligibly as possible. It affects your perception. I will quote a friend: Do not live on emotions))
                  1. Xenofont 6 February 2020 16: 14 New
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                    This is just your way. Yes, and advice from you unnecessarily. Advice is given when asked for, otherwise it looks like rudeness.
                    1. Yehudi Menuhin 7 February 2020 07: 37 New
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                      Of course, I apologize and in no case do not want to be rude to you, but somehow it’s hard for you to reach
        2. Altai72 6 February 2020 16: 04 New
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          And Syria is precisely at its borders and the Kurdish Peshmerge rages precisely Erdogan. Therefore, with appetite, he himself is more clear than us and you.
        3. Chervonny 6 February 2020 18: 46 New
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          Quote: bessmertniy
          Erdogan wants too much. I would restrain my appetite. negative

          Until nadadrovat not die his ambitions. In fact, we observe in his actions a new Turkish expansion into the countries of the Middle East and a peculiar Turkish imperialism.
      2. Romey 6 February 2020 12: 58 New
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        This is understandable, but how to make sure that the Sultan does not upset the Moscow economic partners and does not beat the military partners, as has already happened. After all, if you greatly upset him, then the reptiles will be blocked by the kind of reptiles ...
        1. Xenofont 6 February 2020 14: 35 New
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          No, that's why the "sages" are working with us, as if to eat a fish and not to sit on a stake. Here, even our imagination is not enough in search of maneuvering methods.
          1. protoss 6 February 2020 21: 31 New
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            Quote: Xenofont
            that's why the "sages" work with us

            are you sure straight sages? I think it’s a little tight with wisdom (judging by stories like the Nord Stream, etc.).
            1. Xenofont 6 February 2020 21: 33 New
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              That's what quotation marks are ...
              1. protoss 6 February 2020 21: 35 New
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                sorry, I did not understand that this is sarcasm. it means that we both adequately evaluate them.
        2. Chervonny 6 February 2020 18: 54 New
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          Quote: romey
          Reptiles will block the straits ...

          Do not block. This will be a violation of international law. I understand that Erdogan, looking at the actions of the USA, which constantly violate international law with impunity, will want to do the same, a bad example is contagious, but here the blow will be on the economic interests of not only Russia, but also the European Union, the USA and China. So Erdogan will not go to blocking the straits, he will not get the answer, not afraid, because he is afraid of the “Sultan”.
          1. protoss 6 February 2020 21: 29 New
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            Do not block. This will be a violation of international law.

            which one? Montreux Convention gives Turkey the power to close the channel when at war or when considers himself threatened by military danger. Turkey has not signed the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.
            all dissenters can legally do is file a complaint with the League of Nations (which is no longer). or in sportloto.
            1. Yehudi Menuhin 7 February 2020 07: 39 New
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              In sportloto it will probably be more reliable to complain laughing
      3. Leshy1975 6 February 2020 13: 23 New
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        Quote: Victorio
        Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
        The offensive in Idlib is precisely aimed at preventing the transfer of militants to Libya. In Libya, the interests of the Russian Federation and Turkey are diametrically opposed. I was pleased with the passage about Assad's legitimacy. It’s the same as choosing the President of the Russian Federation by forces of two federal districts. Erdogan does not need to exchange Idlib for the buffer zone, he already controls it. Erdogan’s friend is not afraid, he doesn’t have methods against Kostya Saprykin. And Erdogan has, he is called TP

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        Turks support the militants, and they need to be destroyed, the rest is lyrics.

        This is all in theory. But in practice, there is no one to assad Assad. Syria is bloodless as a result of the civil war. And Assad can fight exactly as long as there is the participation of Iranian proxies and Russian private traders, however, judging by the recent death of snipers, not only private traders are actively involved. Well, of course, plus the Russian VKS. Assad himself (I respect Assad, a strong man), can not oppose Turkey.
        Hence the question, are Iran and the Russian Federation ready to begin military operations against Turkey? Strongly doubt it. Moreover, militarily, an attempt to defeat Turkey at the VD theater remote for us by forces of a limited contingent is not even a gamble, but a deliberately losing option that no one will do. Iran also does not need this, it just does not have enough clashes with Turkey now.
        Erdogan also perfectly understands all this and for him this region is of great interest (without any moral assessments that it’s impossible, it’s bad, etc., which have no influence on politics). Moreover, he has already received support from the United States. In the form of assurances that Turkey, as an ally in NATO, will receive support if something happens. Thus, I believe that in these conditions there is no way to return Idlib by military means. If only really as a result of bargaining and an agreement on an exchange for some issue, no less valuable for Erdogan. But hardly Erdogan is now ready even for this. His position in Syria is stronger than the other parties to the conflict. And he will try to squeeze everything out of this position to the maximum. hi
        1. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 06 New
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          Very accurate and to the point.
        2. Xenofont 6 February 2020 14: 32 New
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          But neither Russia nor Iran are ready to lose Syria.
          1. Leshy1975 6 February 2020 15: 07 New
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            Quote: Xenofont
            But neither Russia nor Iran are ready to lose Syria.

            At this stage, not ready. The immediate fate of Syria is to be divided territories with quasi-state power under the control of external players. And further, everything will depend on who is the first to get tired of incurring expenses with an unclear prospect of payback from the economic, political sides and who first decides that everything is enough. And the first one will definitely not be Turkey. This is too important a question for her. Well, the United States, as you know, simply put this process on its own, taking control of oil fields. They can now sit there for decades. The "receiving party" pays for everything. hi
          2. Yehudi Menuhin 7 February 2020 07: 56 New
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            The meaning of being in Syria is gradually lost. The Turkish stream in the project mode did not take place and will not take place. Gazprom actually has already blown out the gas war for Europe, it’s just that awareness has not yet come. Everyone, including the Russian Federation, does not give a damn about the territorial integrity of Syria. Idlib is actually a very useful thing in the sense of pouring out frostbitten Islamists there from the Russian Federation. Cheimim is nothing more than an expensive toy. The concept of "influence in the Middle East" is a prestigious thing, but absolutely unnecessary for the Russian Federation. Somehow, this is how the picture develops.
        3. Altai72 6 February 2020 16: 22 New
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          Respect! Especially about Iran and its Hezbollah. NATO needs a tiny reason to invade. If Iran goes into Turkey in Syria, it will give the Americans this reason, and at the same time, angry Turkey will clash with NATO forces already on the Iran-Turkish border, the very coveted bridgehead!))
          1. Alexander Sosnitsky 6 February 2020 17: 50 New
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            In fact, a tiny advantage in the Syrian conflict on the anti-American pro-Arab side, and it will be played as in a chess game with a tiny advantage of pawn construction. The situation is only ripening. We need to think about everything to win.
    2. Simple 6 February 2020 12: 44 New
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      Quote: Yehudi Menuhin
      The offensive in Idlib is precisely aimed at preventing the transfer of militants to Libya.



      During the last years of the war in Syria, the entire contingent of the implacable with the current government in Syria was squeezed into the province of Idlib.
      Why in Idlib - yes so successfully (for the current government in Syria and the interests of Russia) itself happened.

      A weighing gun (meaning military groups in Idlib) was supposed to shoot sometime.
      That was the calculation.
      Will be cleaned. It’s impossible to live peacefully in the neighborhood.
    3. mammadov teymur 7 February 2020 08: 27 New
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      what lies under the acronym TP
  4. URAL72 6 February 2020 12: 32 New
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    The Turks concluded gas contracts with Azerbaijan, etc., export from Russia fell critically. And we counted on such a large client. Now we remind them of this in Idlib.
  5. Yury Siritsky 6 February 2020 12: 37 New
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    Turks have never been friends of Russia.
    1. paul3390 6 February 2020 12: 41 New
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      In fairness - we too. .. In general, neighbors are rarely sincere friends - too many chicks arise ..
  6. Demagogue 6 February 2020 12: 41 New
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    The most logical is the exchange for Libya.
    Turks in return can only imitate the help of the Barmalei in Idlib so as not to lose face.
    But it doesn’t seem like a deal yet. Assadists are aiming to cut the enclave in two by blow through Idlib airport to the border apparently. Cut off the supply of Idlib and then squeeze it.
    1. Yeraz 6 February 2020 23: 42 New
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      Quote: Demagogue
      The most logical is the exchange for Libya.

      And what is the logic ?? What is Russia doing and what is such a direct important role there that Idlib Erdogan exchanges for Libya ??
  7. Sergey Olegovich 6 February 2020 12: 43 New
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    Now it’s very important for Erdogan to stop the advance of the Syrian troops in Idlib and for this he is even ready to worsen relations with Russia

    The likelihood that he will succeed in stopping the advance of the Syrians in an idlib of 50 to 50. Erdogan drove himself to a standstill with his wisdom from the thought of his greatness.
  8. rocket757 6 February 2020 12: 46 New
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    This is east. A difficult political game was, is and will be.
    What is the height of the bet? I would not overstate them, neither for us, nor for Turkey ... in the span, as always, someone is smaller.
  9. Thrifty 6 February 2020 12: 50 New
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    In the article, the author gives the solution to the problem as the final solution to the problem. Only now, according to Erdogad, we are superfluous there. All the negotiation agreements were for pro forma, the sultan wants to annex this province in parts, and he is ready to make sacrifices, even another blow to our back, in order to achieve his goal. Therefore, perhaps, there will be new paper contracts that the Turks, under various pretexts, or without them, but will not fulfill.
    1. protoss 6 February 2020 13: 05 New
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      so far, it is precisely the agreements with Russia that are not worth the paper on which they are written. in principle, this is a well-established domestic practice, which has also passed into our foreign policy.
      1. qQQQ 6 February 2020 14: 23 New
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        Quote: protoss
        so far, it is precisely agreements with Russia that are not worth paper

        Come on, and what kind of treaty did Russia break first? I want to remind you that according to Idlib there was an agreement that the Sultan would restrain the barmaley, he didn’t want, didn’t succeed, this does not change the essence of the issue, that the agreements on the Turkish side were not respected.
        1. protoss 6 February 2020 17: 33 New
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          read the very agreements of September 2018. I here the other day specially deliberately found their English version. so the first point is that the parties confirm the de-escalation zone, the second - Russia is taking measures to stop any attacks on this zone. but further on the demarcation of the opposition, the withdrawal of heavy weapons over 20 km, the restoration of traffic by m4 m m5 (not transferring to asad, mind you) and the corresponding timeframe for this. so, Russia did not provide a single day without strikes in the zone (and this was not a crazy sadyk shot from baking, but the targeted actions of artillery and Assad aviation, and the Russian Air Force). to which it is reasonable that oppositionists of varying degrees of radicalism and moderation refused to retreat for 20 km under bombs.
          1. qQQQ 7 February 2020 09: 09 New
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            Quote: protoss
            so Russia did not provide a single day without strikes in the zone

            Or maybe this is a response to the shelling of barmaley, and the launch of an UAV at our base? The Sultan considered that there was enough agreement on paper, Russia could not, and, thank God, did not want to unilaterally fulfill the agreement.
            1. protoss 7 February 2020 10: 02 New
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              maybe ...
              sounds like the beginning of an excuse in kindergarten.
              See the chronology of events to be sure.
              the Turks, by agreement, by the way, should not have secured a ceasefire by the opposition (this is if the letters of the treaty are taken apart). apparently just forgot to enter it. Well, and besides, this is not among the Barmalei aviation and any significant artillery, but asad. therefore, it was precisely on the cessation of attacks by the SAA that they agreed. but you’re right, Russia really didn’t want to fulfill the agreement, it’s not in our principles to abide by the agreements, it’s a tradition of domestic politics. the state does not answer for its words, it does not want to comply with its own laws and for whom it should - it forgives everyone. why do you need to behave differently with some kind of basurmans?
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                Quote: protoss
                the Turks, by agreement, by the way, were not supposed to provide a ceasefire by the opposition

                But is the text of the agreement laid out? I strongly doubt that the Turks owe anything to anyone. As far as I know, Russia always adheres to agreements, and even more so to agreements, even very often to the detriment of itself. I would like an example of violations, Idlib is not necessary, very controversial.
                1. protoss 7 February 2020 15: 33 New
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                  Quote: qqqq
                  But is the text of the agreement laid out?

                  no, but he "leaked" to the press, I read including English version. and the clauses of the treaty were long discussed by everyone.
                  As far as I know, Russia always adheres to agreements

                  it’s you, you’re not involved in entrepreneurial activity, otherwise you would know that the obligations of our state are worth nothing.
                  I would like an example of violations

                  google any cases in international instances, where the defendant of the Russian Federation.
                  Idlib is not necessary, very controversial.

                  oh how! Still, I sowed a grain of doubt in you wink
                  1. qQQQ 8 February 2020 08: 46 New
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                    Quote: protoss
                    no, but he "leaked" to the press, I read including English version. and the clauses of the treaty were long discussed by everyone.

                    This leak does not cost anything, even if something is true there, then the closed part is attached to any contract, and hardly anyone will know what is there. The seeds of doubt were sown, but immediately dispelled, for reasons, see the previous text. As for the state’s attitude to entrepreneurs, I’ll even expand it on my own citizens, I’ll fully support it here, but it has so historically developed that any most worn out foreigner means more than, probably, all citizens taken together, well, except for their beloved ones. But this does not negate that the state, as I already wrote, always adheres to international treaties, even if they damage their own country and (or) its inhabitants. Well, things are in international instances, then all of them, as a rule, between business entities that are not state, maybe it is present there, but this does not cancel the form of ownership. As I understand it, there are no examples, it’s right, because I would have to deal with what the courts sometimes deal with for years, this once again shows that in any dispute, everything is always not so clear.
                    1. protoss 8 February 2020 10: 39 New
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                      I think it will be enough to dig up examples. for example, the Budapest memorandum on Ukraine.
                      Well, in the courts it is necessary to look at exactly those where the defendant is the Russian Federation. although the same Gazprom or Rosneft is essentially a part of our executive power, endowed with economic functions.
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                        Quote: protoss
                        for example, the Budapest memorandum on Ukraine.

                        I knew that a Ukrainian could not ignore this issue. Firstly, the memorandum, in fact, is an agreement of intent and does not have the force of a normal agreement. Secondly, after its conclusion, it must be ratified by parliament. The United States and Britain refused to ratify it, Russia repeatedly called on them to do it in the 90s, and only when it became clear that the West (for brevity) was not going to do this, we refused to ratify it either. So on this issue, contact the State Department and the British side why they threw you. Again, if there were any violations on the part of Russia, they are only in response to similar ones on the other hand. For example, about the strength of the memorandum: in our city in the early 2000s, a Finnish company concluded an agreement of intent to build a plant, but after a few years the circumstances changed and they abandoned this venture, and no Finns here accuse of betrayal and that they threw us, there was no full agreement.
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                        I’m so Murmansk, why suddenly a Ukrainian?
                        Are you from these zombies who are everywhere looking for Ukrainians and the hand of the State Department?
  10. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 09 New
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    Turks will not annex these areas. They will keep their proxies there, if they press hard, then the Sun will also not be annexed. To nothing
  • Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 51 New
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    And then the bald man was circled, Erdogan’s friend, and he got a TP and a nuclear power plant, and we just washed ourselves with our airplane.
  • Ros 56 6 February 2020 12: 58 New
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    The Turks would sit at home, in general, there would be no wounded and killed, what the hell are climbing into a foreign country. Receive, sign and don’t whine.
    1. Mordvin 3 6 February 2020 13: 24 New
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      Quote: Ros 56
      what the hell are climbing into a foreign country.

      And what the hell did we get in there?
      1. Ros 56 6 February 2020 13: 28 New
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        Learn history and you will have the happiness to have knowledge.
        1. Mordvin 3 6 February 2020 13: 36 New
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          Quote: Ros 56
          Learn the story

          Hello. I kind of taught history. I can photograph and show the certificate. repeat But more than once he thumped with the Afghans, and their eternal question: "Vova, but what did we do there?"
          1. Ros 56 6 February 2020 14: 26 New
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            And what does Afghanistan have to do with it, the conversation is about Syria, apparently after Bukhara the Afghans did not depart. My brother ran and traveled through the mountains of Afghanistan for exactly a year, as they entered the New Year on their own, so lucky to stay alive.
            1. Mordvin 3 6 February 2020 14: 33 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              What does Afghanistan have to do with it?

              And I see an analogy ... There are barmalei, here barmalei ..
        2. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 12 New
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          Do you want to tell us about sacred places in Syria? Go ahead, read the future dream
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    2. Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 14: 10 New
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      Who are you talking about now, exactly about the Turks? laughing
      1. Lamata 6 February 2020 14: 43 New
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        about both sides laughing
  • protoss 6 February 2020 13: 00 New
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    One demonstrative visit to Kiev with stories about the “Ukrainian Crimea” and the greeting “Glory to Ukraine” is worth ...

    it costs nothing, like this little article cobbled together in a hurry.
    the author could at least ask whether this visit was pre-planned or spontaneous - “demonstrative” as he put it.
    and so a few paragraphs about nothing.
    by exchange:
    as Uncle Fedor said, to sell something unnecessary, you must first buy something unnecessary ...
    northern Syria is now partly under Erdogan, partly remains under the Kurds, who are again "friends" with the states.
    and Libya? Haftar there deeply spit on our opinion that he demonstrated in Moscow when he "framed" Lavrov.
    respectively, to sell Haftar for idlib - well, nothing.
    so, apparently, we are with the Assad Prem on an idlib, not counting on exchange, but relying purely on strength.
    Erdogan all the last days says that this game (support of Aboriginal people by the foreign regular army) can be played together (which Turkey has so far sought to avoid), perhaps he will not go for it for domestic political reasons.
  • Zaurbek 6 February 2020 13: 04 New
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    And the Idlib area is close to our bases in Syria. Is that bad. I think the issue with Idlib in the interests of the Russian Federation needs to be resolved and it will be resolved.
  • Chaldon48 6 February 2020 13: 21 New
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    Kurds do not care about anyone's interests other than their own. Fate itself put them in such a position that they simply have nowhere else to go. The militants will be expelled from Idlib. Kurds will take their place.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan 6 February 2020 13: 33 New
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    Crush terrorists in Idlib without looking at Erdogan.

    What will he do to us ?! Gas will stop buying - it will inflict more losses on itself.

    Erdogan is not going anywhere, his NATO allies are sleeping and see how to remove him, and he knows this. Otherwise, I wouldn’t buy S-400 from Russia and wouldn’t get accustomed to other weapons systems.
  • Mihail42 6 February 2020 13: 45 New
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    Turkey doesn’t like that the Russian aerospace forces bombing the Turkmen territories: it’s like the Kazakhs would bomb the Russian city of Pavlodar and the Russians wouldn’t like it either. Got it or not?
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    As the ex-president of Ukraine Kuchma used to say: "Why is Ukraine (in our case Turkey) not Russia"? Erdogan maneuvers to squeeze as much as possible for himself and Turkey from the Idlib mess. But Russia also thinks first of all about its interests. Even the local task - to exclude shelling of the airbase, is worth it to pick out the militants from there. And Syria is just a scene (although it seems that all this is being developed on their land)
  • JonnyT 6 February 2020 14: 29 New
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    Endrogan came to Kiev, shouting glory to Ukraine, and then his troops fall into a boiler in Sarakib. Syria has something to put pressure on the Sultan, apparently there will be a buffer zone, and the removal of militants on green parachutes
  • Sibguest 6 February 2020 14: 38 New
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    "... what Erdogan can change Idlib ..."
    For your tomatoes - for export to our country.
    And on our gas.

    Nothing personal just business.
    And if the head of the sultan is bowed, its oligarch Janissaries will quickly explain to him why the pound of Turkish delight.
  • Xenofont 6 February 2020 14: 45 New
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    But aren't we giving too many advances to the sultancheg, what else would bargain for? Or was it our unrequited gift to the killer of our people?
  • megadeth 6 February 2020 15: 07 New
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    Why the hell with these Turks and Syrians, what is known about the death of our 4 commandos? https://lenta.ru/news/2020/02/04/predali/?utm_source=24smi&utm_medium=exchange&utm_term=10949&utm_content=2721737&utm_campaign=12675&es=24smi
    1. Guru 6 February 2020 15: 26 New
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      Why the hell with these Turks and Syrians, what is known about the death of our 4 commandos?

      Bullshit! I am about the details.
      “It is likely that the order to open fire and to eliminate the officers of the FSB FSB was issued from one center - the“ party of war "surrounded by [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad.

      The fact that this is probably a stuffing.
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    ANB 6 February 2020 17: 12 New
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    One demonstrative visit to Kiev with stories about the “Ukrainian Crimea” and the greeting “Glory to Ukraine” is worth ...

    Erdogan is likely to achieve the opposite with his “demonstrations”.
    So things are not done.
  • Mavrikiy 6 February 2020 17: 37 New
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    For Russia, the destruction of militants in Idlib is a very important task, especially considering that among them there are up to 2,5 thousand (according to various estimates) immigrants from Russia itself - from the republics of the North Caucasus, the Volga region, as well as from the post-Soviet states of Central Asia. And these militants, according to Moscow, should not return to Russia.
    “The atomic weapons of them all.” (Tymoshenko) angry It would be quite the case.