State tests of the T-14 tank reached the final stage

State tests of the T-14 tank reached the final stage

The latest Russian T-14 Armata tank is entering the final stage of state tests, no fundamental changes will be made to its design. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a statement by an official representative of Uralvagonzavod.


Answering journalists' questions during the Defexpo India-2020 exhibition, the UVZ official said that the T-14 tank on the Armata platform had embarked on the final stage of state testing and would make the series in the same form as it is being tested to make fundamental changes to the design not planned.

A new ammunition is specially developed for a promising vehicle

- added the source of the agency.

Earlier it was reported that at UVZ all the work was done on the component of the experimental work of Armata to modernize the 125 mm 2A82-1M gun. In addition, the company in the framework of this ROC began the production of guns for testing new types of shots.

Also in the summer of last year it was reported that work had begun on "coordinating the applicability of the Sokol-V product in the system of the 125 mm 2A82-1M gun," but it was not disclosed which product was created in the framework of this ROC.

A Defense Ministry pamphlet said that gun armor tank T-14 Armata, including guided missiles, is 1200 mm, while the T-90M, T-72B3M, T-72B3, T-80VM tanks have an armor penetration of 700 mm. It is assumed that the armor penetration of a modernized gun of increased accuracy 2A82-1M with new ammunition will increase significantly.

Earlier, UVZ declared that they were ready to create on the basis of the T-14 "Armata" a new tank with an 152-mm gun.

Recall that in 2018, at the Army forum, the Ministry of Defense signed a contract for the supply to the troops by the end of 2021 of 132 T-14 and T-15 combat vehicles on the Armata platform.
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  1. Victor_B 6 February 2020 09: 22 New
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    Rather, to the troops ...
    1. Edik 6 February 2020 09: 25 New
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      There’s nothing to hurry in such matters! The main thing is to bring the car to mind! Good news good
      1. Victor_B 6 February 2020 09: 27 New
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        Quote: Edik
        There’s nothing to hurry in such matters! The main thing is to bring the car to mind! Good news
        Well, dreaming is not a sin!
        1. Petro 1 6 February 2020 11: 06 New
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          Armata tests are successful, and then what -

          ChTZ-URALTRAK (part of the Uralvagonzavod NPK) plans to conduct research work to begin developing a new engine for promising armored vehicles. The new project should replace the Chaika diesel engine (for Almaty), which, according to the test results, was recognized as unsuccessful.

          According to Valery Kostyuchenko, the Acting General Director of the plant, the experience gained from the creation of the Chaika engine will be taken into account in the design of the new engine.



          "The new project, unlike the previous one, should not repeat its mistakes and will be coordinated with all interested parties - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, JSC" UKBTM ", leading universities - MSTU named after Bauman, SUSU and the Ministry of Industry and Trade," - said the official reply "ChTZ - URALTRAC "on an editorial request.
          1. Simargl 6 February 2020 14: 37 New
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            Quote: Petro 1
            ChTZ-URALTRAK (part of the Uralvagonzavod NPK) plans to conduct research work to begin developing a new engine for promising armored vehicles. The new project should replace the Chaika diesel engine (for Almaty), which, according to the test results, was recognized as unsuccessful.
            "The Seagull" is a project of a unified line, as I understand it, it is V-shaped. Now on the T-14 put an X-shaped engine.
            Then the question arises: is the X-shaped engine almost 2 times shorter than the V-shaped ... is there a small room in the engine compartment of Almaty (with an eye on the V-shaped station wagon)?
            1. Albert1988 6 February 2020 21: 22 New
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              Quote: Simargl
              "The Seagull" is a project of a unified line, as I understand it, it is V-shaped. Now on the T-14 put an X-shaped engine.
              Then the question arises: is the X-shaped engine almost 2 times shorter than the V-shaped ... is there a small room in the engine compartment of Almaty (with an eye on the V-shaped station wagon)?

              Or as an option - they were just able to create a V-shaped in the same size as the X-shaped.
              1. Simargl 6 February 2020 23: 54 New
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                Quote: Albert1988
                Or as an option - they were just able to create a V-shaped in the same size as the X-shaped.
                In length, with the same volume? In Bugatti, he is W - shaped, but hardly the same length as an X-shaped one. At first it was made 16-cylinder, but something went wrong, sawed off a number and, as they say, the engine became one of the best (liter power) in the class ...
                "The Seagull" is a high-speed diesel engine, it has less volume (the X-shaped one has about 35 liters). So FIG knows what will be there ...
        2. Krasnoyarsk 6 February 2020 13: 09 New
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          Quote: Victor_B
          Well, dreaming is not a sin!

          If a person had not dreamed, he would still live in caves.
          1. zadorin1974 6 February 2020 17: 43 New
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            Laziness is the main engine of progress)))) If the caveman were not too lazy to run their feet with a spear after a mammoth every day, he would not invent a gun and an SUV)))
      2. Grandfather 6 February 2020 11: 41 New
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        Quote: Edik
        There is nothing to hurry in such matters!

        for sure, let's wait another 10 years not in a hurry ... T-90 went off the assembly line. finally ... cheers.
    2. seti 6 February 2020 09: 26 New
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      Will be where he is going. Just "sooner" in relation to the latest technology is unacceptable. I would like to visit it at the helm myself :) I remember my first impression - the appearance of the T-14 was a little shocking :)
      1. Edik 6 February 2020 09: 27 New
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        Quote: seti
        I remember my first impression - the appearance of the T-14 was a little shocking :)

        And remember how you waited, when, well, when will it be shown !!! Handsome !!
        1. Constanty 6 February 2020 10: 01 New
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          I think that I will introduce myself to many people, but for me personally the T-14 Armata is one of the ugliest Soviet / Russian tanks. Large proportions and a clumsy tower.
          Not a Soviet tank building school at all

          T-90M T-90 "Breakthrough3" is undoubtedly beautiful. Great!
          1. bessmertniy 6 February 2020 10: 32 New
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            The main thing is done. Let's hope that the production of the series will be successfully established. good
          2. dzvero 6 February 2020 10: 34 New
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            Let's just say that the T-14 is a departure from the T-64 concept (a heavy tank in medium size). The departure is compelled, because the reserves of modernization are almost exhausted and do not allow a qualitative improvement in the parameters. The new platform has more modernization possibilities. smile
            As for design, it's a matter of taste. Some people like nimble sports coupes, others like huge black nips smile Most likely, the designer of Almaty gave priority to the qualities of the tank, and not to the appearance. So something uninterrupted happened ...
            1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 09 New
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              I think this time the designer first developed a capsule (safe and comfortable for the crew), given the size of the overhead of the tower and turret space and plus MTO. So he turned out like that. Well, again. The platform is made under a 152mm gun. And there the return is different and the tower will be many times more.
              1. rudolff 6 February 2020 11: 31 New
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                Why develop it? The whole essence of this capsule is the armored partition between the control compartment and the turret of the machine. But the word is yes, beautiful. Capsule!
                1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 35 New
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                  Here you are categorically wrong. Material armored, ergonomics, laying communications and life support systems. This is not a car for you to do. Then the bunt will be abruptly.
                  1. rudolff 6 February 2020 11: 50 New
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                    Everything that you speak about belongs to a control compartment, irrespective of its booking. And from the capsule there is only an armor-borough. Everything else is protected by body armor. A capsule is just a beautiful word and marketing.
                    1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 57 New
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                      Ohhh gods. Who will tell you all the ins and outs of booking a tank. You noticed that in Almaty the dynamic protection is closed from the sides to the MTO.
                      Those. the tank consists of 3 compartments: capsule, turret compartment and MTO. One way or another, a closed compartment on all sides is a capsule. It is absolutely airtight. Do not want to call it that one - your problems. But in conscience it is called that. Before the T-14, such a capsule in domestic tanks .... and indeed there wasn’t the whole world.
                      1. rudolff 6 February 2020 12: 02 New
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                        For the simple reason that no one has yet risked to make a BM remote control and the crew was posted. The usefulness of BM BM is still a big question. There are pros, there are cons.
                      2. PROXOR 6 February 2020 12: 06 New
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                        I sculpt you minus for technical LITERACY. What kind of remote control ?! Do you even understand what remote is? This is a remote control without a direct connection. The armored capsule has a BUS for information transfer between external sensors, BO and MTO mechanisms.
                        And what you wrote is the same URAN-6 and URAN-9, i.e. cars with the fashionable name DRONES.
                        Exaggerated for you. An old Soviet toy with a remote control on a wire is direct control, Chinese toys with remote controls with an antenna are remote control.
                      3. rudolff 6 February 2020 12: 12 New
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                        Scold, I do not mind. At the same time, engineers and designers. This they are called BM Armata DU. And a machine gun on the tower DU. And by the way in EDU or EMDSU aircraft. Electro remote control.
                      4. PROXOR 6 February 2020 12: 14 New
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                        Let's go! Everything is clear with you. There is no argument, we will push other people's thoughts.
                2. Mazuta 8 February 2020 18: 56 New
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                  I noticed, but what does DZ have to do with it ?!
              2. Golovan Jack 6 February 2020 12: 05 New
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                Quote: rudolff
                from the capsule there is only an armored horn. Everything else is protected by body armor. Capsule is just a beautiful word and marketing

                Informative, interesting. Share the source?

                Quote: rudolff
                For the simple reason that ...

                ... you think so. Or is there still a more reliable source of knowledge?

                Quote: rudolff
                no one had ventured to do the BM remote control and the crew was posted

                Everything happens for the first time ...

            2. Mazuta 8 February 2020 18: 49 New
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              for PROXOR (Sergey):
              You should write handouts ...
      2. Constanty 7 February 2020 10: 32 New
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        The T-90M Proryv3 clearly shows that the development potential of the T-64 / T-72 / T-80 generation tanks has not yet been exhausted.
        Of course, the T-14 Armata has numerous advantages - after all, it is a new generation tank, but it also poses a threat.
        Soviet weapons were notable for their simplicity and reliability on the battlefield. Weapons for fighting, not for exhibitions.

        In the T-14, the concept of unmanned turrets poses a risk of loss of combat capability in the event of failure of any charging system.

        Here I consider optimal here the Soviet (not Ukrainian !!!) “Rebel” with the crew in the tower, much lower than its ring.

        As far as appearance is concerned, it is most of all a matter of individual taste, and I am not saying that Armata cannot be liked by anyone. Maybe, maybe.

        I like the T-80UD, the Object 640, the Object another 187, or the T-90M "Breakthrough 3" but this is just my opinion - nothing more.
        1. dzvero 7 February 2020 10: 50 New
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          Just the T-90M indicates that the potential for modernization is almost exhausted. Further quality (!) Improvements are unlikely. Of course, the SLA can be changed, KAZ hang, etc. But! The 140mm can’t just be inserted without a gun, the latest BOPS for 125mm is no longer fit, you need to rework the turret, and there the chassis will require a revision, which pulls the costs of developing a new tank.
          Armata is a risk, I agree. But it’s better to take risks consciously, bring the new concept “to mind” and gradually change the tank fleet. And until then, secure yourself with modernized T-shkami. For me, the picture with "build-not-build-upgrade" is explained only this way.
    3. PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 06 New
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      Look Boxer project, aka Hammer. These are the projects from which Armata flowed. Only there was a 152mm gun. There, too, they look somehow awkward.
      1. Per se. 6 February 2020 11: 47 New
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        Quote: PROXOR
        Look Boxer project, aka Hammer. These are the projects from which Armata flowed
        Not from these projects leaked Armata, or rather, the T-14 tank. “Boxer and Hammer” were developed in Kharkov, there was no separate armored capsule there. The T-14 tank is a UVZ development, not to a small extent based on the ruined T-95 (object 195).
        Object 195 was created under the new 152 mm 2A83 cannon, only because of this it was necessary to make a layout with an uninhabited tower and a separate armored capsule. The new cannon was guaranteed to hit all existing and promising enemy tanks from a distance not accessible to reciprocal gunfire. That was the whole point of a super tank, an amplification tank. With a 125 mm gun, if you don’t force it, it will not replace the potential of a 152 mm gun, and the applied layout will already be more a minus than a plus, it will not give the T-14 significant advantages over the same T-90 “Breakthrough”, being even more difficult , more expensive. As long as the 14 mm gun was not returned to the T-152, they did not stop moving the “platform” on an expensive and complex base, it would hardly be useful.
        1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 50 New
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          You write everything correctly. Ours took the concept of an uninhabited tower and brought the issue of crew safety to the right level. Those. If in Soviet projects the Crew did not separate anything from the ammunition, then in Armata they separated - and they did it right. The tank is iron. The main value of any tank is HIS CREW.
          1. Alexga 6 February 2020 13: 24 New
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            The main value of any tank is HIS CREW

            Rather, it will be the ability of any tank to be the first to destroy the enemy and win the battle.
            1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 13: 49 New
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              NO!!! There are no killable tanks, and the speed with which they are destroyed depends on the ability of its crew to use it 100%.
              If you put me and someone else in Armata, we will perform the task many times worse than the trained crew in the T-72B3. In this interpretation, we, as a crew, are much less valuable than the T-72B3 crew.
              1. Alexga 6 February 2020 14: 38 New
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                Sergey, “NO !!!” what? Victory in battle is not needed? I do not understand your idea. To be honest, to sit in Armata is not even interesting. This unit, it is still too early to call it a tank, raises more questions than there are answers. I have repeatedly expressed my opinion on this subject. There are realities of our time, and it’s a pity that Russian tank building followed the path of the Western "partners." They usually create goods for sale, but we always made a tank for war.
                1. Mordvin 3 6 February 2020 14: 43 New
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                  Quote: AlexGa
                  we always made a tank for war.

                  And Armata for the parade! laughing
                2. Alexga 6 February 2020 14: 49 New
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                  And Armata for the parade! laughing

                  Just. Sometime in the 60s, even under Khrushchev, a prototype of an anti-aircraft missile capable of hitting targets at a range of 7 km was carried at a parade on November 2500. She was tested at an experimental training ground near St. Petersburg. She did not pass, the project was closed and show what is not stopped. As if in this case, it can happen.
                3. Mordvin 3 6 February 2020 14: 51 New
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                  Quote: AlexGa
                  under Khrushchev

                  So at this blockhead and the underground tank did ...
              2. Mazuta 8 February 2020 19: 02 New
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                something with minuses today is not a lot ...
                Especially for you:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=NfKpAHm_DbY&feature=emb_logo
            2. PROXOR 6 February 2020 15: 07 New
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              And now Russian tank builders are making weapons for war. But thank God we went along the path of saving the lives of the crew. For the sake of stealth and weight reduction, Soviet tank designers made the tank less and less, and shoved more and more into it. The result was 64ka and the last iteration of this tank: T-72, T-80, T-90. The tower’s crew is sitting on the ammunition, and shots are lying next to the driver’s arm. Plus fuel tanks are not covered by anything from the crew. How many crews did not manage to escape because of the rapid burnout in the tank of this sweep even with open hatches. These were experts in their field. And there are NO more.
              The project T-14 finally paid attention to the survivability of the crew. Yes. The tank has become larger in size, but to say that it has become equal in mass to NATO tanks is a lie.
              T-14 weighs 48 tons, it is more than T-72B3 - 43 tons and T-90M - 45 tons. But 48 tons do not make any comparison against NATO tanks: M1A1Sep V3 - under 70 tons, Leopard 2A7 - 60 tons, Merkava Mk4 - 60 tons. Leclerc and Challenger 2 over 60 tons. At the same time, the T-14 is not only inferior in protection to NATO tanks, but also surpasses them.
            3. Alexga 6 February 2020 15: 22 New
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              These were experts in their field. And there are NO more.

              It is a pity that there is no General Venediktov at UVZ. Then dubious aggregates, such as BMPT, would not have been created, and Armata would have been hidden from everyone, until all the tests were carried out. And do not compare the T-64, T-72 and T-80. Of course, they all have guns and tracks. The combat weight of the T-14 is 55 tons, almost Leopard and Abrams.
            4. Albert1988 6 February 2020 21: 27 New
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              Quote: AlexGa
              Then dubious aggregates such as BMPT would not be created

              And who told you that this is a "dubious" unit? The war is changing, and changing rapidly, what was relevant 30 years ago, now may turn out to be just a mountain of scrap metal ...
            5. Alexga 6 February 2020 23: 37 New
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              Tell me, why for many years it has not been adopted?
            6. Albert1988 9 February 2020 14: 24 New
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              Quote: AlexGa
              Tell me, why for many years it has not been adopted?

              But after Syria they took it and took it))) Because in real conditions they realized that such a machine was needed, if it were in metal during the storming of Grozny - they would have taken it then ...
        2. Mazuta 8 February 2020 19: 27 New
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          And what did BMPT not suit you personally?
          You want to say that under V.N. all samples of OCD went into series ?!
          ALL TESTS end after "withdrawal from service"
          but then the test of time remains ...
        3. Alexga 8 February 2020 19: 35 New
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          Determine a place in the battle for BMPT. With its unprotected weapons on top and loading belts for an automatic grenade launcher outside the casing. The car has already been created for almost 20 le, but it hasn’t entered service, but it is shown at the parade. And it is presented not as an object of R&D. Most likely for sale as a jihad car for perfumes somewhere in the Middle East.
        4. Mazuta 8 February 2020 19: 39 New
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          Well, determine his place ...
        5. Alexga 8 February 2020 19: 45 New
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          So the fact of the matter is that this place does not exist. In the best case, to protect some kind of rear object. But then it is very expensive.
        6. Mazuta 8 February 2020 19: 58 New
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          You should be in the General Staff!
          Grandfather Lenin in such cases said:
          "Learn, study and study again ..." (no offense only)
        7. Alexga 8 February 2020 20: 17 New
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          It's already too late to the General Staff, but I personally know what a conventional fragmentation shell burst 7 meters from the tank is and what remains on the tank from the living. And he gave explanations to comrades from some organizations.
        8. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 20: 24 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          what is the gap between a conventional fragmentation shell 7 meters from the tank and what remains on the tank from the living, I personally know

          Ummm .. more from now on ..

          The moon is shattering - yes, of course ... and then? wink
        9. Alexga 8 February 2020 22: 00 New
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          The gap on the commander’s side, all the fuel tanks, the fenders, only the FG-125 ha remained a caterpillar, the turret flew away, the machine gun was not installed well, Yes, everything that was on the right and back. It’s easier to calculate what’s left. And it all happened, because a gunner from a second-tier company decided to charge the gun earlier, just in case, "an unprintable word." They had to shoot at a long range, naturally with a 429 fuse. Well and of course, as always, accidentally pressed a button. He himself was surprised by a funnel in an explosion with a military fuse.
        10. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 22: 02 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          The gap on the commander’s side, all the fuel tanks, the fenders, only the FG-125 ha remained a caterpillar, the turret flew away, the machine gun was not installed well, Yes, everything that was on the right and back. It’s easier to calculate what’s left. And it all happened, because the gunner from the second-tier company decided to charge the gun earlier, just in case, "unprintable word"

          So. Stop. Are you talking about the teachings?

          So there I didn’t see such a thing, believe me for now)))

          Sam was surprised by a funnel in an explosion with a military fuse

          Honestly - I didn’t understand Nicherta except the general mood ... but I felt it, plus a hundred))
        11. Alexga 8 February 2020 22: 05 New
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          They don’t write about the war.
        12. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 22: 07 New
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          They don’t write about the war

          Um .. normal people - yes. But there is a sea of ​​Lexuses that are "on rails")))

          Okay, I get it. On exercises - everything happens, for that they are teachings.
        13. Alexga 8 February 2020 22: 11 New
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          On the exercises - everything happens, then they are the teachings

          May there always be only teachings. smile soldier
        14. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 22: 14 New
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          Quote: AlexGa
          May there always be only teachings

          Damn, with all paws - only FOR !!!

          I am a crevedka !! Belorussian !!! Totally agree good laughing

          I just know a little what a car can do. Provided that people do not fail.

          It is not necessary, to anyone.
  2. Mazuta 9 February 2020 14: 25 New
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    Well, BMPT, and where does it ?! there that the crew is not covered with armor ?!
  3. PROXOR 8 February 2020 20: 04 New
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    Those. the loss of tanks in Grozny does not show you a place for such a machine? I understand no. Why do we need such a machine, let the infantry storm the building with machine guns to the advantage.
  4. Alexga 8 February 2020 20: 25 New
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    Sergey, yes, in urban conditions, this monster immediately die. In the city, eyes should be on all sides. The entry of tanks into Grozny has been evaluated more than once. So do not talk about it. Moreover, military tests were not conducted at all for the BMPT, so the military does not understand why state money was spent to create this miracle. But for specialists in WoT from KB, it seems that there was enough knowledge. Moreover, TK of the RF Ministry of Defense did not create. This is a purely factory invention. Now it is fashionable to create goods for sale, and not for the native army.
  5. Mazuta 9 February 2020 14: 13 New
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    How did this “factory invention” bother you so much ?!
    Is your money created? !!
    "Fashionable" because you want to eat daily!
    And there were people who did not want the death of the enterprise and its staff ...
    That after the Guarantor of Democracy, the "Granddaughter of a hero" and the Red Dog is left ...
  6. PROXOR 10 February 2020 14: 09 New
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    Well, as far as I know, with the eyes of the BMPT all the rules. There is one important advantage over tanks in battle in the city. His 30mm gun barrels can look much higher than a tank gun. Yet again. Two barrels, two types of ammunition: you need to knock out the infantry in the house - we hit a high-explosive tape, you need to kill it behind the wall - armor-piercing (there will simply be nothing to detonate with high-explosive). It’s necessary to cover the area with trenches, there is an AGS. Syrian experience has shown that the first landmine disperses the bearded, but does not destroy them, but destruction is necessary. BMP-2 could successfully clean the buildings but their protection is poor.
  7. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 20: 10 New
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    Quote: AlexGa
    Determine a place in the battle for BMPT. With its unprotected weapons on top and loading belts for an automatic grenade launcher outside the casing

    Bro, it's easier to die, I see.

    I’m already an old man, and I’m from 64 years old .. well, how to say .. now they are ruled by the goddamns, if they are caught like they are in the pictures you watch.

    I repeat: T64B. I will make any leopard on this machine, on the oncoming lane, give only the way)))
  8. Alexga 8 February 2020 20: 30 New
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    Yes, in general, you’re getting overexposed, there is still nothing, but information on the new models being created in the network by the shaft. And everyone is discussing, discussing and discussing. But nothing that until the collapse of the union only such terms were used: vol. 172, tank Ural, vol. 184. But you use the term T-72, as the kontriki will do this by order 010, you won’t wash yourself until the end of the service.
  9. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 20: 59 New
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    there is nothing yet, but information on the emerging new patterns in the network shaft

    Pivkayte ... here Skomorokhoz out of the blue Takub occasionally raises ...

    This is INFOSMI, when you learn to filter - come in, there are no questions. I - I can, yes wink
  10. Alexga 8 February 2020 21: 05 New
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
    This is INFOSMI, when you learn to filter - come in, there are no questions. I - I can, yes

    Yes, this is not my first resource, I simply gave preference to purely political topics. World of tanks is the main manual here, even funny. And, damn it, everyone sacredly believes in what they see on the screen., I have a 14-year-old grandson of the kind.
  11. Golovan Jack 8 February 2020 21: 11 New
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    Quote: AlexGa
    all holy believe in what they see on the screen.,

    They will come to real life - they will wash ... if they have time))

    Quote: AlexGa
    this is not my first resource

    Here the trolls are lit up, just lie down .. even now I’m already bored, but I’m here - I go to have a clean rest.

    Yes, this is ... about tanks .. what is the difference between 64-ka and 55-ka - yes, I can easily report it ... only for a long time, there are many differences.

    Like, by the way, the named "Almaty" - from everyone else. Also there is infa, but - ... damn it, yes there is none already)))
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    They will come to real life - they will wash ... if they have time))

    The control word, if you have time.
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    Quote: AlexGa
    The control word, if you have time.

    And this is not my sadness. This is their .. sorrow ..
    There are, and many, people besides. If anything - they will understand. And who play in tanks ... well, there are ... many, censorship ...

    Norm everything .. We work. Yes, I’m a bastard, I’m a kemlebot, I’m submarine - I’m equally divided over what is being painted about me. An autopsy will show (c).
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
    and I’m here - I come in to have a clean rest.

    Speak directly: - "I go to VO to troll and flood."
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Also there is infa, but - ... damn it, yes there is none already)))

    From damn it! Only there was and is not her! What can you do with balabol!
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    Quote: AlexGa
    Yes, in general, you’re getting overexposed, there is still nothing, but information on the new models being created in the network by the shaft. And everyone is discussing, discussing and discussing.

    What information, dear? The usual misinformation that is published for open sources? we won’t see real information for another 30 years, at least this is for cars. which were developed 20 years ago ...
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    And what is "object 172", do not tell?
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    No offense. But the T-64B will not have time to see Leopard until he makes the first shot. All the same, the SLA and the panorama with teplak is one of the most important elements of any modern tank.
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    Quote: Golovan Jack
    I repeat: T64B. I will make any leopard on this machine, on the oncoming lane, give only the way)))

    Ostap carried ...

    What else is your "way"? Only the circus arena, the clown ...
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    5-9 6 February 2020 13: 08 New
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    Why now 152 mm (this is a decrease in both BK and rate of fire), if 2A82 with a large supply of holes holes in all existing tanks? Moreover, it is impossible to significantly increase the reservation in existing western tanks, in principle, due to the lack of reserves for mass. For 25 years, the most popular filler in Western tanks - a secret mixture of nitrogen, oxygen, carbon dioxide and other inert gases, in Russian called "armored air".
    Compared with the T-90M, the T-14 has a significant increase in security. And the T-14 was designed taking into account the possibility of installing 152mm, which they will do with the first series in ... twenty years. And T-90M with the advent of a thread Leo-3 will become like T-55 in 1985 ...
    1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 13: 55 New
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      You're not right. In principle, the autoloader does not care that it charges 125mm or 152mm. Both types of shots use separate charging. Given this, nothing prevents the AZ from being made in an uninhabited tower on the principle of a carousel shell itself (bops, cumul, landmine), and an exclusively propelling charge in the aft niche. AZ raising a level tray from below with a shell becomes a straight line between the breech and the window in the aft niche. And then as in the same Leclerc. The mechanism sends out the outfit and propellant charge in one motion like the T-64 and T-80.
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        5-9 6 February 2020 14: 30 New
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        Yah? Compare the rate of fire of 30 mm, 57 mm and 125 mm? Or all sorts of 152-203-381 mm on old battleship cruisers? Even if it is approximately the same, the size of the CD is more important.
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          Yah. Shooting of self-propelled guns 2S19 Msta-S 7-8 rounds from a mechanized warhead. And there for a second 152mm, but why take old weapons. In front of the nose is the latest 2S35 Coalition SPG. This God of War draws 15 shots per minute from the mechad. And after such parameters on the self-propelled guns in the tank they will not be able to provide the same 6-7 shots from a tank gun (more often than not, high speed on a short barrel will lead to its overheating and distortion. The accuracy will go to TRANDA).
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            Actually, the mechanization of self-propelled guns is not at all the mechanization of a tank gun, but let it be. Well, I wrote that let the rate of fire be the same. There, in addition to a smaller BK, there will also be a AZ 2 times larger, the gun itself, the price of all this ... WHY if 2A82 is full of holes that may appear within 20-30 years?
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            Quote: 5-9
            WHY if 2A82 is full of holes that may appear within 20-30 years?

            But this is a question. The frontal projection of the abrams and leopard is pretty well protected. And to make scrap longer now does not work precisely because of the automatic loader. A scrap of 152mm with a similar length breaks an order of magnitude better.
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            The extreme shells from 2A46M are taken underexposed (about 60% of the frontal projection), and even more so from 2A82 (everything is natural at the level of rumors and speculation). There are no reserves to increase the protection of Western tanks - for there is no reserve by mass. Therefore, 2A82 with a margin is enough for the current generation of opponents.
          4. PROXOR 11 February 2020 14: 16 New
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            God forbid that your words be true, and not as before June 22, 1941, when 45mm blanks split on the Krupov armor of the T-III and T-IV tanks. Before the war, they sang that the armor was strong and our tanks were fast. Thank God Mikhail Ilyich Koshkin managed to transfer the project A-32 to the country, aka T-34. Eternal glory and memory to this ingenious designer who gave his life in the war, which by that time had not yet begun.
  • Alexga 6 February 2020 15: 05 New
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    AZ raising a level tray from below with a shell becomes a straight line between the breech and the window in the aft niche
    And the cassette can be made into two shells, one at the top, the second at the bottom. Especially without changing the current conveyor. But for the charges you need another conveyor, more units, more failures. The increase in size. But I’m more interested in how the ammunition will be loaded and, I ask you not to laugh, but how the gun’s wedge will open.
    1. PROXOR 6 February 2020 15: 23 New
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      A similar cassette method is now on the T-90, and he received it from the T-72. This increased the volume for the crew and at the same time reduced the rate of fire. If the T-64 and T-80 drive a full charge in 1 run of the rammer, then on the T-72 and T-90 such runs need 2.
      Here https://youtu.be/ipc9BBodqC8 is clearly shown. Only the video slowed down the speed of the T-64.
      I would go on the principle of charges in the rear of the tower along with the rammer, and in the carousel only the shell itself. The principle is similar to the work of AZ at Leclerc. Only Leclerc’s in the rear part of the tower has a NATO unitary projectile under a 120mm gun, and the T-14 will have only missile charges there. In the carousel itself there are 4 types of shots: BOPS, Cumulative, Landmine and ATGM. The carousel feeds the tray with the charge needed on one line between the breech and the window of the aft niche of the tower and the rammer for 1 (ONE !!!) passage drives the full charge into the barrel.
      1. Alexga 6 February 2020 15: 29 New
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        Do not tell me your level of acquaintance with tanks, and with self-propelled guns too. It’s hard for me to explain my point of view to you ..
  • Snigir 6 February 2020 13: 11 New
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    Tanks up to t90 inclusive - still a Soviet school.
    And Armata in size is already closer to the Abrams and Leopards
  • NEXUS 6 February 2020 13: 58 New
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    I think that I will introduce myself to many people, but for me personally the T-14 Armata is one of the ugliest Soviet / Russian tanks. Large proportions and a clumsy tower.

    Then what can you say about the F-35, for example? New threats and requirements for weapons will soon change the appearance of weapons altogether. Aesthetics are not even in tenth place. As for Armata (appearance), I think this platform is quite interesting and not ugly, as when I first saw it.
  • Alexga 6 February 2020 16: 42 New
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    T-90M T-90 "Breakthrough3" is undoubtedly beautiful. Great!

    But what craftsman placed the self-extracting log on the starboard side ?!
  • Albert1988 6 February 2020 21: 23 New
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    Quote: Constanty
    I think that I will introduce myself to many people, but for me personally the T-14 Armata is one of the ugliest Soviet / Russian tanks. Large proportions and a clumsy tower.
    Not a Soviet tank building school at all

    My father, as an engineer, would answer to you that a machine that performs its functions well is called "beautiful", and how it looks at the same time is not just a tenth, but even a hundredth ...
  • PROXOR 6 February 2020 11: 02 New
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    With a 152mm gun !!!! A 125mm shot is no longer enough to categorically soak Abrashka's forehead. 152mm this immediately multiplies by zero all the armor of all tanks in the World and plus ATGM from Chrysanthemum. As I understand it, in the T-14, the automatic loader was also redone for the stern supply of ammunition
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      5-9 6 February 2020 13: 10 New
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      1200 mm is not enough? All Western (and ours) tanks and 700 mm RHA for steel according to the Russian method (which is important, according to "their" methodology BP will be 20% higher) - enough.
  • Bar2 7 February 2020 10: 20 New
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    at least it’s interesting to know what this is in the tank, so that it would be tested FOR YEARS? What did they do last year, the year before last, if the tank is already ready? Decayed component factories rebuilt?
    Where is the adopted mig35 already?
    However, this slowness in introducing new technology is understandable, if all these NATO threats are imaginary, then there is no need to spend cartoons, hire military talkers and chat, chat, chat.
  • master 52 6 February 2020 09: 25 New
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    great news
    1. Chaldon48 6 February 2020 09: 34 New
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      I hope “Abrams” if he meets, then only in the export version.
  • Yrec 6 February 2020 09: 33 New
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    It is very interesting to look at the serial version. "Falcon-V", along the way - a new ATGM.
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      Quote: Yrec
      Falcon-V ", along the way - a new ATGM.

      https://topwar.ru/164860-tankovyj-kompleks-upravljaemogo-vooruzhenija-sokol-v.html
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 February 2020 09: 33 New
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    Amazing! The news is already a dozen and a half minutes, and no one has yet started whining that they promised two thousand, why they have been testing it for so long, and if everything is so complicated, why it was shown in 2015. This must be a new record.
    But nothing, I’m sure that they will be uncovered very soon.
    1. Gardamir 6 February 2020 09: 43 New
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      Uncovered.
      In the morning early, I re-read the site rules again. At least you gave out a flood.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 February 2020 09: 49 New
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        First time today? I doubt it very much, but just in case with an initiative.
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        Quote: Gardamir
        I read the site rules again early in the morning.

        It is very useful.

        Quote: Gardamir
        At least you gave out a flood

        You Krylov's fable "Fox and Grapes" do not remember, by chance? Its very ending wink
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        Quote: Gardamir
        Uncovered.
        In the morning early, I re-read the site rules again. At least you gave out a flood.

        and they didn’t get to the point “m” ?? what it is customary to violate it here, and this is welcome, sooooooooooo .... !!! wink wassat you can flood if ........ !!! lol
    2. dzvero 6 February 2020 09: 51 New
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      And why now whine about 2000 Armat? No one on the site really knows what the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation plans for purchases in the future, and those who know are unlikely to say smile 132 until the end of next year. Then there may be a new contract for ......... machines. Etc. At the moment, even 200-300 Armats will make parity with NATO on the most modern tanks (extreme modifications of Abrams, Leo, LeKlerk and Challenger).
      Why did they show it in 2015? Why not throw a stone in the swamp and make partners sculpt a new tank in a hurry? With all the plume (shk) (x) amy arising from the rush? After all, so far in the West there are only conversations, pictures of concepts and nothing is “in metal”.
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 February 2020 09: 58 New
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        It’s not at all about “Armata”, and generally not at all.
        They whine simply because they whine.
        1. Gardamir 6 February 2020 10: 19 New
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          I looked at your comments in recent days. You have to give the title of honorary fluderator VO.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 February 2020 10: 27 New
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            I looked at your comments in recent days.

            In this case, you should have noticed the question addressed to me in the comments to the article “Belarus: is there life after the“ father’s ”that you so bravely ignored.

            Maybe now answer? Not here, of course, it's flood! But in the comments to this article.
            1. Gardamir 6 February 2020 10: 50 New
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              Two crocodiles flew one green another to the right. How much is a kilogram file?
              I wrote my opinion, you wrote in the spirit of your inherent trolling nonsense that I had to answer.
              By the way gentlemen moderators, for whom are the rules written? Or is there equal under dnocracy, but some are more equal?
              A person strongly does not want to write about the topic stated in the article. At least I wrote for a start that Armata is the best tank, then it would be easier to look for aching.
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 February 2020 10: 55 New
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                As our enternets say: "The drain is counted."
                However, I believe that you will not get used to this state.
                1. Gardamir 6 February 2020 10: 58 New
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                  Well, at least here they have asserted themselves.
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                    And all thanks to you, my dear On-Inconvenient-Questions-not-Answer.
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                Quote: Gardamir
                gentlemen moderators, for whom are the rules written?

                Gardamir, do you understand the hints? “Fox and Grapes”, the finale is “your everything”:

                Than the gossips to consider, to work,
                It’s not better to turn on yourself, godfather ...

                Memorize and repeat by reading the Site Rules yes
    3. Mestny 6 February 2020 09: 54 New
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      Well-known thing, war.
      And how will begin to enter the army will howl "why are so expensive, sawing folk money."
    4. Lamata 6 February 2020 10: 20 New
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      promised promised and still not fool
      1. Nastia makarova 6 February 2020 10: 31 New
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        132 to 2021 in the army
  • God save the king 6 February 2020 10: 24 New
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    So what did they decide with the engine, will it go into production?
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      Quote: God save the King
      So what did they decide with the engine, will it go into production?

      No, it won’t go into production. The tank will be on buffalo traction. wassat
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      pedals will turn
  • Zaurbek 6 February 2020 11: 12 New
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    A much more pressing issue is when the 2a82 cannon can be installed on T90M tanks. Together with its main shells, including 900mm BOPS
  • Alexey from Perm 6 February 2020 12: 12 New
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    132 cars are not a rearmament of the army, but small-scale production. Although a larger re-equipment of our economy will not pull.
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      132 cars are what, for example, are in general in the armies of Britain, or on the move in France and Germany .... so, for information on the current number of "tank hordes" of partners .... the United States has less than 1500 tanks in general
  • Super 6 February 2020 12: 12 New
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    I am from Chelyabinsk. Everything will be. Do not rush.
  • Lord of the Sith 6 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    Well, fine, did it)))
  • gorenina91 7 February 2020 08: 56 New
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    State tests of the T-14 tank reached the final stage


    -It is probably worth starting the production of several modifications of the T-15, depending on the engines ...
    -It is probably worth releasing some batch of T-15 and with gas turbine engines (GTE) - suddenly it will also be useful; well, at least for parades ...
  • lvov_aleksey 7 February 2020 23: 36 New
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    I respect our defense of criticism away
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