NATO "fist" and Russian capabilities on the Black Sea


Spring is not far off, and with it a sharp increase in the activity of NATO and its satellites in the Black Sea. Regular exercises will begin, such as Sea Shield and Sea Breeze, which, in essence, are nothing more than a refinement of actions to attack the Black Sea bases fleet Russia, and at the same time moments for various kinds of provocations against our sailors, testing the strength of their combat readiness and nervous system. But what will happen if suddenly any of these provocations grows into something more? What is the balance of power of the parties and their chances of success?


Without going into details and details regarding the numerical composition of various naval groups in the Black Sea, we will try to focus on, so to speak, global issues. First of all, it is worth noting that over the past few years the Black Sea Fleet has undergone significant and, one might say, rapid changes for the better. It included new warships, the coastal defense potential was significantly strengthened, and the power was significantly increased. aviation component. Nevertheless, it is worth remembering that a significant part of the Black Sea Fleet ships was built before 1991 and its status will most honestly be defined as coastal. Most likely, he will be able to defend our shores unequivocally, but as for gaining complete domination in the water area, there may already be questions.

Let us turn, however, to the forces of our opponents. As of today, unambiguously, alas, Ukraine and Georgia should be reckoned among such. Fortunately, these countries do not have their own worthy fleets, but in the event of a conflict, the forces of the North Atlantic Alliance will be able to rely on their ports and coastal infrastructure. Again, God knows what, but still unpleasant. In the case of Ukraine, one should not completely discount the number of aviation attributed to the local Navy, which, if given a chance, can create certain problems.

Warships of the main fighting countries of NATO (with the exception of Turkey) will need to get into the Black Sea, first of all.

Suppose that they succeeded. What can be a similar grouping, the NATO “fist” on the Black Sea? You can try to imagine the Sea Shield -2019 exercises held last year as an example. Then the Black Sea waters were frigated by the frigates HNLMS Evertsen (Netherlands), TCG Yildirim (Turkey), BGS DRAZKI (Bulgaria) and ROS Regele Ferdinand (Romania), FHH333 “Toronto” of the Royal Canadian Navy and F81 “Santa Maria” of the Spanish Navy. Later, the USS Ross DDG71 missile destroyer, which has 90 Tomahawk missiles, joined them. Impressive. Nevertheless, we will not call it all a kind of “invincible armada”.

Interestingly, the potential military conflict on the Black Sea is fraught with a very serious “variable” in the form of the largest fleet of the NATO member country, which has quick and unhindered access to it. Speech, of course, about Turkey. The local Navy should be taken more than seriously - 16 frigates, 8 corvettes, 13 diesel submarines. There is something to think about.

And a lot will depend on whether Ankara takes neutrality or speaks on someone’s side. In principle, in the first case, according to the Montreux Convention, the Turks in general can block the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, thereby preventing hostilities in the water area. Another question - will they?

The relations between Ankara and Moscow, sharply aggravated recently, do not give much reason for optimism. But is it an aggravation, or is it still a mutual attempt to make a certain exchange in their own interests - with an increase in rates?

In any case, it will be very difficult for the “democratizer” to enter the coast of Crimea or other sections of the Black Sea coast of Russia.

Our capabilities: the Bal and Bastion coastal missile systems, the Gauges, which the Black Sea Fleet is armed with, both surface and underwater, front-line Su-24 bombers, and fighter aircraft of the Russian Navy - this alone is enough to bring down the offensive fuse of any aggressor. However, this is far from all that can be expected by uninvited guests in the Black Sea trying to try the Russian coast for strength ...

I would like to believe that the Black Sea will not turn back into a theater of war. However, the fleet based there and its bases definitely need further strengthening.
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  1. Dmitry Potapov 6 February 2020 08: 05 New
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    And if you still deploy the Iskander brigade kit in the Crimea with a special warhead, then there will definitely be no volunteers.
    1. thanks 6 February 2020 08: 11 New
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      As long as our nuclear weapons of deterrence are in integrity, no one will dare to attack us, Russia ... But it is also necessary to develop it further. However, do not forget about your development, including the armed forces - it is always necessary to have modern weapons (also on new principles of work) in sufficient quantities, to develop a strategy and tactics for its use, and so on ...
      1. paul3390 6 February 2020 08: 37 New
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        They will not dare to attack only if they stopudovo know that we will apply it without the slightest hesitation .. Nobody doubted the readiness of the USSR, hence the attitude to the Union. As for the non-current Russian Federation - there are still strong doubts that our type of elite is capable of such a thing .. Therefore they are impudent - they see no reason to be afraid of us ..
        1. dirk182 6 February 2020 09: 20 New
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          But I have no such doubts at all. Uniquely apply.
          1. paul3390 6 February 2020 09: 45 New
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            For whom - to your children, villas and bank accounts ???
            1. Alexey RA 6 February 2020 12: 05 New
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              Quote: paul3390
              For whom - to your children, villas and bank accounts ???

              After Gaddafi, hoping for the inviolability of villas and accounts in the West, and the very possibility of surviving in the event of a confrontation, is a bit naive.
              1. paul3390 6 February 2020 12: 18 New
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                Immunity is guaranteed by a stable export of finances and resources to the West. As long as he goes non-stop - the bourgeoisie can calmly turn a blind eye to any of our clumsiness in politics. For the main thing is the loot, the rest is the struggle of the Nanai boys. One visibility.
            2. NEXUS 6 February 2020 14: 28 New
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              Quote: paul3390
              For whom - to your children, villas and bank accounts ???

              They will hit not in cities, as the USA did in 45, for example, but in bases, strongholds, etc. ... are there really any children of these officials? And besides, before the war, when it is already on the verge, politically, this is clear long before the outbreak of hostilities. Therefore, the children of these managers will be transported to a much more protected place on the territory of the Russian Federation long before everything else.
              1. paul3390 6 February 2020 14: 48 New
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                They’ll hit outside the cities
                Of course not in the cities. The first and main blow will be on the accounts and the families of our type of elite .. What kind of war is it when they take all the money from you and the son in Londinium will take it with a cap on your pocket?
                1. NEXUS 6 February 2020 14: 53 New
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                  Quote: paul3390
                  Of course not in the cities. The first and main blow will be on the accounts and the families of our type of elite .. What kind of war is it when they take all the money from you and the son in Londinium will take it with a cap on your pocket?

                  You are not careful ... I said-
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  And besides, before the war, when it is already on the verge, politically this is clear long before the outbreak of hostilities.

                  That is, not only the children will be taken out, but also the loot transferred. You have some kind of fix idea with this cliche about the children of officials.
                  1. paul3390 6 February 2020 14: 57 New
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                    That is, not only the children will be taken out, but also the loot transferred.
                    Do you yourself believe in that? Well this is clearly in the category of fiction passes. So that our revolutions go that way ?? Why did they then rob the country for 30 years? Yes, they are rather the initiator of such a bald snuffbox ...
                2. Xnumx vis 6 February 2020 20: 25 New
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                  Quote: paul3390
                  What kind of war is it when you take all the loot to the cent and take your son in Londinium with a gerard in your pocket?

                  Oh, I feel like a toad is crushing you ... like .. Ah. what a pity I don't have ... belay crying Get rich in your soul! Soul ....
        2. Olgovich 6 February 2020 10: 52 New
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          Quote: paul3390
          They will not dare to attack only if they stopudovo know that we will apply it without the slightest hesitation .. Nobody doubted the readiness of the USSR, hence the attitude to the Union. As for the non-current Russian Federation - there are still strong doubts that our type of elite is capable of such a thing .. Therefore they are impudent - they see no reason to be afraid of us ..

          When the world was on the verge of destruction several times, when before the start of nuclear weapons there were only a few hours-minutes, including and as a result accidents-This not normal. Once upon a time, it would certainly work.

          And why then all?

          The nuclear weapons must restrain by the very fact of their existence and are holding back: what would happen to Russia without nuclear weapons in the case of the Crimea? And on the heap of occasions ("wrong" elections, protests, etc.)?

          The inevitability of retaliation stops the West.

          As for the children / grandchildren of the Soviet elite, the descendants of Gorbachev, Khrushchev, Andropov, Brezhnev, Stalin-in the West and live .....
          1. Arthur 85 6 February 2020 12: 04 New
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            And where are the descendants of the Romanovs?
            There would be nothing. The modern west is too cowardly to go over the hills, even if everything in the world of nuclear weapons Grandfather Frost carried in his bag last New Year to the moon ... However, in the latter case, the west would now wage a heavy war along the southern borders, and they would not be up to us.
            1. ser56 6 February 2020 17: 28 New
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              Quote: Arthur 85
              And where are the descendants of the Romanovs?

              Are you about those who accidentally survived? So they had no choice - either they would throw them into the mine or shoot ... request
              1. Arthur 85 6 February 2020 17: 50 New
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                Um, if I hit my fingers on the fingers with a hammer every day and get treated with green stuff, and then I start gangrene, but instead of following the doctor’s advice, I will continue to drink green stuff, then over time, I will 100% win the football cup in Paradise .. That's about what the Romanov family was doing. request
                1. ser56 6 February 2020 18: 19 New
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                  Quote: Arthur 85
                  That's about what the Romanov family was doing

                  so, for a change, look at the borders of Russia in 1612 and in 1917 ... request
                  1. Arthur 85 6 February 2020 18: 31 New
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                    So what? This only testifies to an even greater, uh, incompetence of the adjacent masters. Poland, the Ottoman Empire, Sweden (Here was a great cycle the other day about the completely repelled Karl of the 12th. That is, I knew this before, but, of course, it’s very beautifully described. It’s a sin not to take it all right away pack ice, forever closing the question with Finland, Swedish ore, and all that. But they didn’t take it). In Siberia, there were really no states. Yes, and Alaska did not have to give, and Iran, and Manchuria ...
                    1. NEXUS 7 February 2020 04: 06 New
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                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      In Siberia, there were really no states.

                      Are you serious? That is, you, believing your teachers, who also had someone spit out about this version of history, say that there were no states in Siberia, there was no life, and in general it, being a very huge piece of land, was not populated by anyone? This means Europe, which, taken together in an area smaller than Siberia, was directly teeming with people and countries, but such a piece of land as Siberia is directly the surface of the Moon.
                      Meet your history teacher, tell him that he is not doing his job.
                      1. Arthur 85 7 February 2020 05: 56 New
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                        The population does not mean the state. Some Simon de Montfort has been breaking southern France for ten years, and the crusaders - for Palestine for a hundred years ... And Yermak conquered the floor of Siberia by the forces of the Cossack battalion.
                        He probably only pretended to be a man, but in fact - the commander in chief Shao Kana from Mortal Kombat. Otherwise, how did he manage to break up many strong Siberian states?
                      2. ser56 7 February 2020 11: 29 New
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                        Quote: Arthur 85
                        And Ermak conquered the floor of Siberia by the forces of the Cossack battalion.

                        and cortes? Not suggestive?
                      3. NEXUS 7 February 2020 14: 18 New
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                        Quote: Arthur 85
                        The population does not mean the state.

                        You don’t bring the postulates of official history to me, I know them perfectly. I asked you a simple question, and you are singing to me about the “ships plowing the expanses of the universe”.
                        So that you get my message about the issue, I’ll explain, the official story is a lie. You can forget all that was taught to you at school and at the institute, since this is a complete heresy.
                        You just turn on the elementary logic ... that is, Europe was inhabited, Maya lived in Peru by the state, China lived by the state, but in Siberia, which is larger than the whole of Europe, only wild people roamed? Don't you think that your historians have blunted you?
                    2. ser56 7 February 2020 11: 28 New
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                      Quote: NEXUS
                      tell him that he is not doing his job.

                      alas, Eurocentrism in teaching history is terrible ... request
                  2. ser56 7 February 2020 11: 27 New
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                    Quote: Arthur 85
                    This only indicates an even greater, uh, incompetence of adjacent masters.

                    What a russophobe you are, however ... request
                    Quote: Arthur 85
                    In Siberia, there were really no states

                    Yes, you are an expert on the history of Siberia from the word vice versa ... bully
                    Quote: Arthur 85
                    Yes, and Alaska did not have to give, and Iran, and Manchuria ...

                    It is necessary to take what can be held ... for example, the TDF took Galicia / Volyn and the result? But smart people wrote back in the late 19th century - it’s not our land anymore ... request
        3. Ros 56 6 February 2020 12: 34 New
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          The descendants of Stalin and Khrushchev fought and died for the USSR. fool
          1. Olgovich 6 February 2020 13: 47 New
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            Quote: Ros 56
            The descendants of Stalin and Khrushchev fought and died for the USSR.

            Svetlana Iosifovna Stalin's daughter from the U.S.:
            "I always HATE RUSSIA.


            Russophobe Sergey Khrushchev pouring an abomination on Russia from the U.S.Gorbachev’s daughter USA Suslov's daughter Austria grandchildren of Andopov-in USA, Brezhnev’s niece and Brezhnev’s great-grandson USA.

            These are just FACTS. fool
            1. Ros 56 6 February 2020 14: 31 New
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              The family has its black sheep, they heard such an expression. Peter the Great also had a son of a bastard, so to us that, because of these insignificance, spit on the graves of their ancestors like this scum greens. All for the time being.
              1. ser56 6 February 2020 17: 27 New
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                Quote: Ros 56
                The family has its black sheep, they heard such an expression.

                Yes, somehow it turns out. that the children of almost all the leaders of the USSR are ... request
                Quote: Ros 56
                Peter the Great's son was also a bastard

                maybe all is for him? he just had his own look, and his father from the young wife of the heir received ... One-sidedly, we all describe ... request
                1. Ros 56 6 February 2020 19: 03 New
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                  You said it for sure
                  he just had his gaze
                  .
                  I would add to this - liberal, like our homegrown Russophobes like Bykov, Makarevich, Emmanuel, Sytin and other trash.
                  1. Range 6 February 2020 21: 21 New
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                    You directly listed the entire "color" of insignificance. If I would watch TV, it would be necessary to install wipers on the screen from the streaks.
                    1. Ros 56 7 February 2020 08: 49 New
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                      Well, these are crumbs, and as for the janitors, I have no doubt about this at all, we have an enormous number of homegrown liberals, judging by the minuses, the very gifted nerds decided to walk along all the branches and put down the minuses, put clowns, I perceive each minus as a medal for the fight against Russophobes and idiots .
                    2. ser56 7 February 2020 11: 32 New
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                      Quote: Ros 56
                      I perceive every minus as a medal for the fight against Russophobia and idiots.

                      do not overdo it in battles ... bully otherwise, in the heat of battle, you will lose your bearings ... request
                    3. Range 7 February 2020 12: 45 New
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                      And where without them minus fans.
                    4. Ros 56 8 February 2020 07: 43 New
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                      The sun, it shines without snotty, somehow I’ll manage without stupid advice. fool
                    5. ser56 8 February 2020 15: 21 New
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                      Quote: Ros 56
                      The sun, it shines without snotty, somehow I’ll manage without stupid advice

                      Quote: Ros 56
                      home-grown liberals, we have an immense amount, judging by the minuses of specially gifted nerds

                      judging by the number of insults around you, you have problems ... hi
            2. ser56 7 February 2020 11: 31 New
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              Quote: Ros 56
              I would add - liberally

              is this Alexey Petrovich? laughing However, you have speculations from illiteracy ... bully
        4. NEXUS 8 February 2020 06: 28 New
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          Quote: Ros 56
          Peter the Great's son was also a bastard

          Are you sure that the Peter the Great, about whom historians tell us the real Peter Tsar of Russia? The real Peter was of usual height, with curly hair. And after a trip to Europe with Menshikov, a two-meter ambal arrived, with straight hair and a mole on his face. At the same time, immediately upon arrival home, the new Peter, without even seeing his beloved wife Lapukhina, sends her out of sight, which later led to an uprising of archers. It is interesting why Peter did this if he wrote passionate love letters during his trip to the wife? About the fact that he deleted five thousand years from the history of Russia with a stroke of the pen, having approved the Gregorian calendar. At the same time, he also cut the number of letters in the alphabet. And I listed only a small part of his abominations.
      2. Arthur 85 6 February 2020 18: 34 New
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        Yes. I always believed, and I believe that the ruler should be childless. While the Roman emperors adopted the heirs, there was order. As Marcus Aurelius gave the throne to Commodus, it began, sorry, Jupiter, a mess.
    2. Xnumx vis 6 February 2020 20: 31 New
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      They perished. Heroes ... You go to the old military cemeteries .. There are descendants of the highest noble and royal families who died for Russia ... And the descendants of the members .. TsKKPSS and children of the leaders of the CPSU pulled to the west too ... For the values ​​of communism probably. ..
  • Machito 6 February 2020 12: 03 New
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    A thousand years ago, the Black Sea was called Russian. So it remains. Straits can pass any ships. But will they go back to the Mediterranean Sea? Unlikely.
    1. Range 7 February 2020 12: 58 New
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      With the return of the Crimea, it again became Russian.
  • antivirus 6 February 2020 09: 18 New
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    our nuclear deterrence weapon in integrity,

    -that is ahead of time, accumulated in the right place "little spoons" ..and on the forehead to "partners"
  • Chaldon48 6 February 2020 09: 28 New
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    That's right, but you can’t discount strategic and ground aviation, which, I think, will not remain in the throne either.
  • Ros 56 6 February 2020 12: 32 New
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    And without enty, no one will climb, we would like, we would have started long ago, but there are no suicides among them, even among the half-fools of banderlogs, to live something chocets.
  • Stalllker 7 February 2020 05: 31 New
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    If only ports of partners to extinguish
  • Dimy4 6 February 2020 08: 11 New
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    In which case, the indicated infrastructure of Ukraine and Georgia will have to be quickly liquidated.
    1. bessmertniy 6 February 2020 08: 18 New
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      And what do you want to do with Turkey! recourse
      1. Dimy4 6 February 2020 08: 23 New
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        And what do you want to do with Turkey!

        And it depends on what Turkey itself will do, quietly look away, rubbing its hands in the hope that we will be killed by the United States and Europe, or actively involved in hostilities. Well, according to the last option, the question, as they say, will disappear by itself - you will have to defend yourself from it.
        1. bessmertniy 6 February 2020 08: 25 New
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          It turns out we will beat the Turks again! what
          1. Dimy4 6 February 2020 08: 38 New
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            It turns out we will beat the Turks again!

            Alas, it will be sad for all parties to a possible conflict to end.
            1. shonsu 6 February 2020 17: 55 New
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              It is necessary that not only we remember this.
              1. Range 6 February 2020 21: 26 New
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                Bullshit. The enemy has no memory and quickly forget everything. As soon as the bruises from the pills heal, they again climb onto the rampage.
          2. Alexander Suvorov 6 February 2020 08: 40 New
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            bessmertniy (Victor)
            It turns out we will beat the Turks again! what
            So we don’t get used to it! Here the question is different: will the leadership have enough will?
            So far, undercover warfare is being waged with Turkey, apparently so far without much success and breakthroughs. The Sultan as a woman of easy virtue, both yours and ours. However, you can understand it. The Turks have practically no friends in the region, the problem is with the Kurds, and the indefatigable desire to restore the Great Port also does not allow to sleep peacefully. So the Sultan sways from side to side.
            Actually, Turkey is definitely not our friend, it’s a situational partner, as long as it is beneficial for them. So how beneficial are the Akuya and Turkish Stream projects to Russia, this has been written with a pitchfork. But on the other hand, which is none, but a leverage. The truth is not entirely clear who is influencing more.
            So the Black Sea Fleet needs to be further strengthened and developed, but you never know. We have no friends in the Black Sea!
          3. antivirus 6 February 2020 09: 19 New
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            enough for them to join part of Bulgaria and Georgia
            we have who and what to sacrifice for now
      2. paul3390 6 February 2020 08: 41 New
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        I doubt that the Ottomans will fit into this .. It is clear - if that, firstly, it will fly along the straits and their Black Sea bases. Does the Sultan need it? What will he get in return? A piece of Syria? Unequal exchange ..
        1. shonsu 6 February 2020 17: 58 New
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          And we will give them Georgia. )))
  • rocket757 6 February 2020 08: 12 New
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    And who was hoping it would be easy? And finally, when it was easy and simple with us ???
  • Lamata 6 February 2020 08: 14 New
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    but the sea that makes us weak
    1. Tiksi-3 6 February 2020 09: 15 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      but the sea that makes us weak

      to the marine component -
      The first frigate of project 22350 with a fully Russian power plant - Admiral Golovko - will be launched before July 1. On Wednesday, February 5, said TASS general director of the "Northern Shipyard" Igor Ponomarev
      .
      1. Lamata 6 February 2020 09: 19 New
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        good, of course, but against the naval forces NATO is not enough, and the flagship Moscow is under repair.
        1. Tiksi-3 6 February 2020 09: 26 New
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          Quote: Lamata
          and the flagship Moscow is under repair

          But to FLAGMAN “Moscow” there is nothing to do in the Black Sea at all, not to sit in a puddle ..... there will be quite enough a series of frigates 22350 ..... which are not there yet ((
          1. Lamata 6 February 2020 09: 41 New
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            But Moscow is there)))) and this is a fact.
            1. Tiksi-3 6 February 2020 09: 50 New
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              Quote: Lamata
              But Moscow is there)))) and this is a fact.

              for you - the flagship is completing its repairs ....
              1. Lamata 6 February 2020 10: 26 New
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                it is very good smile
              2. shonsu 6 February 2020 17: 59 New
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                Where is the droushka?
    2. BARKHAN 6 February 2020 10: 47 New
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      Quote: Lamata
      but the sea that makes us weak

      The aggressor needs the maritime component more. If you defend yourself, you can drown everything from the shore.
      1. Lamata 6 February 2020 12: 59 New
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        you don’t run across the coast; integrated defense by the naval forces and the navy is more reliable.
  • vvvjak 6 February 2020 08: 15 New
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    USS Ross DDG71 missile destroyer, which is in service 90 Tomahawk missiles

    Well this is unlikely.
    The Russian Federation in the Black Sea can oppose only RCC about 400 pieces.
    1. antivirus 6 February 2020 09: 21 New
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      it makes sense to contain Kozelsk and the Orenburg divisions if they do not cover their radius (and the Caspian will help)
  • New Year day 6 February 2020 08: 37 New
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    ... Turks in general can block the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles ..

    “We will build the Istanbul channel. But some say that we won’t do it ... What does Turkey have from the Montreux agreement - what did it win, what did it lose?” - Erdogan.
    The channel should connect the Marmara and Black Seas. The width of the waterway will be 150 meters, the depth - 25 meters. The cost of 10 billion dollars, throughput, up to 85 thousand ships per year.

    After its launch, Ankara will have the right to raise the issue of reviewing, or even canceling, the Montreux Convention as outdated.
    1. Paul Siebert 6 February 2020 09: 35 New
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      Many do not understand this.
      But the fact is there.
      Our fiery allies in one step to launch into the Black, "inland sea" the entire NATO bastard ...
      And then we have enough missiles?
      It was once, during the Crimean War, they, at the call of the Ottomans, already drew themselves under the walls of Sevastopol!
      I do not diminish the courage of our people, but, can put pressure on the mustached sultan, in advance?
    2. Avior 6 February 2020 22: 33 New
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      After its launch, Ankara will have the right to raise the issue of reviewing, or even canceling, the Montreux Convention as outdated.

      I do not see the connection.
      It has nothing to do with the Convention, but the Turks can exploit the channel as they see fit.
      But who will pay if there is a Bosphorus?
      1. New Year day 7 February 2020 09: 21 New
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        Quote: Avior
        I do not see the connection.

        and such an option is possible - the channel will be outside Montreux. She herself, the doctrine, will die
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        But who will pay if there is a Bosphorus?

        Is the Suez Canal or Panama Free?
  • rudolff 6 February 2020 08: 47 New
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    And why is NATO some kind of fist in Black? They already have a large part of the coast either behind NATO member states or allies. And the straits in them. And a bunch of airfields along the coast. Also, the INF Treaty rested in the Bose. Why fist? For provocations, one ship is enough.
    1. novel66 6 February 2020 10: 28 New
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      Why fist?

      threaten, why else?
  • JonnyT 6 February 2020 08: 52 New
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    A little incomplete analysis. The attack on Crimea and the NATO grouping in the Black Sea cannot be considered separately. First of all, NATO will strike deep into the Russian Federation from the Ukrainian Placedarm, trying to surround and cut off from supplies. Remember how the Nazis acted, they will act in exactly the same way, only more sophisticated and more cunning.
    I don’t want to think about Turkey. I hope that the Turks have enough prudence not to participate in this. Although they say lies, the Turks will play the first violin in this attack, because they are a member of NATO, and we are enemies for the Turks. This will lead to the destruction of Turkey as a state. Turkey will disappear from the world map.
  • Gardamir 6 February 2020 08: 57 New
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    Firstly, the author did not cover the topic sufficiently. Even if we talk only about the Black Sea, Azerbaijan is friendly to Turkey; no, it will not take the side of NATO, but it will help.
    They will try to set fire to the Caucasus.
    And finally, they laugh in vain soothing themselves over Erdogan. He is a patriot of his country. And he is doing everything to strengthen Turkey.
    And about repeating, do not confuse the Soviet Union and the Trade Federation. There will always be a "warrant officer" selling to the enemy ...
    1. Okolotochny 6 February 2020 12: 20 New
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      Even if we talk only about The Black Sea[/ i] then Azerbaijan[I] friendly turkey

      Explain your Pearl ??? Azerbaijan has access to the Black Sea coast ???
      1. Gardamir 6 February 2020 12: 42 New
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        Pearl you have Azerbaijan is Turkey's neighbor, moreover, loyal to Turkey. And in this hypothetical battle, the bootet will help Turkey.
        Just like the United States is also not a country of the Black Sea region.
        1. Okolotochny 7 February 2020 12: 17 New
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          Gardamir, a comparison of Azerbaijan and the US - This is "cool."
  • Maks1995 6 February 2020 09: 01 New
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    Again an empty article. From the specifics - only the size of the Turkish fleet.

    The rest is only general reasoning, and so is known to all.
  • Keyser soze 6 February 2020 09: 21 New
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    I understood from the article that the Amer destroyer carries 90 axes, the Russians have a fist, and the Black Sea is in place and functioning.
    1. novel66 6 February 2020 10: 29 New
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      very bright news !!! lol
  • icant007 6 February 2020 10: 38 New
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    Warships of the main fighting countries of NATO (with the exception of Turkey) will need to get into the Black Sea, first of all.


    To compensate for our limited capabilities in the Black Sea (due to the uncontrollability of the straits), it is necessary to increase the naval presence in the Mediterranean Sea.
  • Sergey Valov 6 February 2020 10: 39 New
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    Empty article. What could be the tasks of fleets in the Black Sea?
    1. The defeat of enemy sea lanes? This is what and who? Everything for everyone, everything goes on land (Ukraine does not count) It falls away.
    2. The landing? Who, where, and why? Who has the required number of landing craft? No one. Falling away.
    3. Launch cruise missiles? And why take the risk of adversary and go to the World Cup? Easier from the Aegean Sea. Falling away.
    4. Nonsense about shooting from a cannon along the shore of the enemy I do not consider.
    5. Base aircraft, both ours and the adversary, if that reliably closes the World Cup for enemy ships, everything will be decided on land.
    What’s the bottom line - any large-scale actions of ship groupings at the World Cup are now meaningless, the exercises carried out by the potential adversary are absolutely harmless to us. However, this does not mean that the Russian Federation does not need the Black Sea Fleet, it just has different tasks.
  • Yehudi Menuhin 6 February 2020 11: 16 New
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    Single incidents, even tragic ones, cannot be ruled out. Everything else is sucked out of the finger. Nobody needs a full-blown nuclear conflict. Of course, he will not kill humanity, but at the exit both warring parties will get a worse situation than at the entrance. It makes no sense to occupy any part of the Russian Federation or Turkey, because it is unclear what to do with it then?
  • Charik 6 February 2020 12: 22 New
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    Armageddon - a war that will begin soon. Prophecies of Paisius Svyatogorets
  • Old26 6 February 2020 12: 40 New
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    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    And if you still deploy the Iskander brigade kit in the Crimea with a special warhead, then there will definitely be no volunteers.

    And what, the Iskanders have already become anti-ship and can hit moving targets (ships) ???

    Quote: vvvjak
    The Russian Federation in the Black Sea can oppose only RCC about 400 pieces.

    And from this place can be more? Where did you find such a bunch of PKRs?

    Quote: Silvestr
    After its launch, Ankara will have the right to raise the issue of reviewing, or even canceling, the Montreux Convention as outdated.

    Why? What changes the availability of this channel? The Convention on the Straits can also be extended to it, especially since it is regularly reviewed by the participating countries, because some provisions of the convention are outdated ...

    Quote: Gardamir
    Firstly, the author did not cover the topic sufficiently. Even if we talk only about the Black Sea, Azerbaijan is friendly to Turkey; no, it will not take the side of NATO, but it will help.

    Well, Azerbaijan is not our enemy either. And it is unlikely that he will go to conflict with Russia, helping the NATO countries in the conflict with Russia. In a conflict between NATO and Iran, NATO will probably help. Again, only possible. Azerbaijan is not a member of the CSTO and in the event of attempts to capture Azerbaijan by Iran, it will not be able to automatically rely on the help of CSTO members.

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    They will try to set fire to the Caucasus.

    Well, they didn’t set the Caucasus on fire when a much weaker Russia “buttered” Chechnya. Azerbaijanis are not enemies to themselves. They have enough problems with Karabakh / Armenia to set fire to the Caucasus.
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    2. Avior 6 February 2020 23: 04 New
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      Why? What changes the availability of this channel? The Strait Convention can also be extended to it.


      and it will automatically spread to him, since only one of the straits, the Bosphorus, bypasses, and the Dardanelles pass anyway, and this is part of the Convention
      The second channel, from the Sea of ​​Marmara directly to the Saros Gulf of the Aegean through the Gallipoli Peninsula, could not change the matter, but he will not cancel the Convention on the passage of straits, the Sea of ​​Marmara is also included in the Convention along with the straits.
      Encouraged by the desire to streamline the passage and navigation in the Dardanelles, the Sea of ​​Marmara and the Bosphorus, embraced by the general definition of “Straits”, in order to protect, in the framework of Turkey and security in the Black Sea, coastal states, the principle enshrined in Article 23 of the Peace Treaty signed at Lausanne on July 24, 1923;
      They decided to replace the Convention signed by Lausanne on July 24, 1923 with this Convention, and for this purpose they appointed their Commissioners, namely:

      But it is not clear why they need it ....
      The Turks, if they want to get freedom in relation to the passage of ships of any country to the Black Sea, will have to build a canal from the Black Sea directly to the Saros Aegean Gulf.
      And changing the convention without Turkey’s consent is not easy. As at the request of Turkey itself.
  • Alexey Petrovichev 6 February 2020 16: 54 New
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    The article is about nothing. There should be a complete alignment of forces, who possesses what.
  • Nikolai Korovin 6 February 2020 20: 31 New
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    No matter how Erdogan maneuvers both ours and yours, he will not want full-scale actions in the water area and turning the northern coast of Turkey into a humanitarian disaster zone. Consequently, it will symbolically miss out on all sorts of breezes there, and if it comes to serious matters, it will refer to the Montreux Convention. And the brave Britons have the experience of storming the Dardanelles. Mattresses to help them.
  • Izzy Gubinstein 7 February 2020 03: 17 New
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    in 1905, the father of Shura Balaganov and the fighter of Zion, the lieutenant Schmit, raged on the Black Sea
    Kgeiseg Ochakov burned, stole Prtyomkin in humanity and nurtured kovagny plans to separate Kgym from Russia, installing batteries on Perekop
    dad tried to convoke constituent congregation from Kolyamba Vtorag
  • Ross xnumx 7 February 2020 05: 18 New
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    NATO "fist" and Russian capabilities on the Black Sea

    Right, a joke ... Spring, the NATO "fist" swells, and pens with "Balls", "Bastions", "Caliber", "Onyxes" - here they are. And also, the “Dagger” is good for the one who has it, and bad for the one who does not have it ... at the right time (or he can’t intercept it) ... laughing
  • Alexey-74 7 February 2020 13: 21 New
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    Plus, the Tu-160, Tu-95, Tu-22 “jump” with the whole set of cruise missiles, and of course the Migi 31 with the “Daggers”, the Black Sea will be sweeping along and across .... the question is who dares to stick up ??? USA? I beg you .... where the fried smells they will not stick up in life ....