In the Ukrainian "Yuzhmash" recognized the purchase of aluminum in Russia for the American Antares missiles

The press service of the Ukrainian enterprise Yuzhmash made recognition regarding the purchase of metal for rocket production. We are talking about the production of fuel tanks for the American Antares missiles.

At Yuzhmash it was recognized that they purchased aluminum for these tanks in Russia. The reason for such contacts with the "aggressor" is the fact that it is such a metal that is indicated in the design documentation for the rockets produced.

About purchases by the Ukrainian enterprise of aluminum from the Russian company Alfa-Metal PO became known according to the ProZorro procurement website. The public procurement system indicates that Ukraine ordered almost 89 tons of rolled aluminum in Russia to implement a contract with the American company NGIS (Northrop Grumman Innovation System).

At the moment, we are talking about the purchase of metal in the Russian Federation in the amount of about 110 million rubles.

The press service of Yuzhmash noted that they were ready to purchase aluminum from Ukrainian suppliers, but "this is not always possible." Additionally, the report said that a change in the supplier of aluminum will inevitably lead to higher costs on the part of the American customer.

This information in Ukraine caused a flurry of emotions. The radicals have already threatened the leadership of Yuzhmash with "active measures for trade with the aggressor."

Comments

[Finches]

Truly, a Jew cried when x ... a Ukrainian was born!

[Uncle lee]

information in Ukraine caused a flurry of emotions.

And let them not be indignant - tanks for missiles are made for them and our "partners"!

[Shurik70]

No, let them be outraged.
It is surprising that after all the events in Ukraine, educated people remained responsibly approaching their work.
What should they do in Ukraine?
Let them come to us. Useful.
Or to Europe, if propaganda brainwashed. They will not be lost there.

[Astra wild]

EC

Quote: Shurik70

No, let them be outraged.
It is surprising that after all the events in Ukraine, educated people remained responsibly approaching their work.
What should they do in Ukraine?
Let them come to us. Useful.
Or to Europe, if propaganda brainwashed. They will not be lost there.

If you believe the media: Ukrainians in Europe wash toilets. In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Astra wild

In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

Well it depends on what ...

[hydrox]

In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

But didn’t it seem to you that Ukrainians traveling to Europe with a special purpose for washing toilets, for complete happiness in this work, lack only higher university education and a candidate (at least) degree?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Astra wild

In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

Well it depends on what ...

Quote: hydrox

But didn’t it seem to you that Ukrainians traveling to Europe with a special purpose for washing toilets, for complete happiness in this work, lack only higher university education and a candidate (at least) degree?

Engineers from "Antonov" work for the salary of a German toilet cleaner - I've seen it myself in Germany.

There They are different, do not jump, They do not remember about "Moskalyaku on Gilyaka". If the "Moskalyaki" Evrov press in his pocket. They found out that I was Russian - they were delighted. "Countryman" ... Damn! We drank "Beefeater" (at my expense, mind you) in the gate. And only when I asked: "You are normal, what is it that pollinates you there, in Ukraine, from planes? BanderLCD?"- offended.
Come on, at the counter we drank our cheap Polish "plum" and left.

I thought it would reach the policemen — it didn’t. This time....

[hydrox]

Do you know, Igor, why do they wash toilets and at the same time enjoy their life?
In Russia, where they would probably find work (aircraft factories - already over two dozen passed!), They were prevented from going by Russophobia - this is on the one hand, but on the other hand, they were "engineers" whose diploma was equal to the diploma bought in the transition (it's just that there is no knowledge behind a diploma (yes, nowadays there is such an education!)). Or it could be like this: on the dying "Antonov" they did not become aircraft manufacturers, they simply did not have time.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: hydrox

these were "engineers", whose diploma was equal to the diploma purchased in the transition

I think so.
For work, I often wind up in Samara. I know that earlier at the 18th (Aviation) plant worked (according to various sources) from 50 to 80 thousand. Now - 3 thousand along with drivers and security. Under the USSR, he built about 50 Tu-154s a year. Now - 2 is repairing. I was in the workshops - grandfathers work under 70. I have not seen a single 30-35. Probably, everyone in Germany is working through a breakdown.

Why Samara - yes, I'm just close - 3-4 hours by car. I think on Antonov, taking into account the Ukrainian independence, it is even worse ...

I graduated from the Civil Engineering Institute and have been working in my specialty all my life. And how many "financiers" - "lawyers" were stamped in the 90s? Where are they? Selling beer and cowards?

And the quality of education? I studied with Soviet teachers. Therefore, having gone to the construction site, concrete was not confused with the mortar. And now??? about me comes a graduate of ASG (industrial and civil construction) and does not know what a "benchmark" and how to draw a sketch with a pencil - used to AvtoKAD. I drive eight out of ten.

[hydrox]

Back in Soviet times, we had problems with interns at the Siberian Branch of the Academy of Sciences: university graduates could not explain how a particular semiconductor product (obtained in single copies at standard factory processes) should work: what is measured, in what modes, frequency of work, number of electrons forming a signal, current strength, etc. - I had to create an educational program for interns, even with the passing of the test.

[Astra wild]

So "giftedness" began there long ago? And how LD Kuchma, Vika looked, is a literate person. He worked in astronautics, and said that Stalin talked with Hitler. In Poland

[hydrox]

This is not "giftedness", this is the lagging of university education from scientific practice, but the results were good. Now this is probably not the case ...
And we are talking about how and from what to make an ordinary "spider", on which you can quickly check the main parameters of the product obtained on a fragment of a plate of germanium, silicon ...

[Tamparu]

.... they did not let Russophobia go ...

Yes, it is not Russophobia that drives them, but the usual desire to live better, to earn more than they can earn in Ukraine, or in the Russian Federation, or elsewhere ... It was during the Soviet Union that we, it seems, built a "society of creation" with an attempt agreement with some principles of the "consumer society" (failed, destroyed everything), and now the "Consumer Society" rules. No one from Ukraine who has received an aviation education (which cannot be compared with the aviation education of the USSR) will go to work at aircraft factories in the Russian Federation for a simple banal reason ... no one will just work for an idea (the idea has remained in the past), but wages are lower than those of the competitors of the Russian aviation industry. If a little with brains, then Boeing and Airbus are already taking such "specialists", not to mention the Chinese and the Saudis. There is a fairly good salary for a young specialist. Well, and who, in general, have no brains ... "diplomas bought in the crossings" .. they leave to wash the toilets, for which they receive payment no less than an aircraft engineer at an aircraft plant ... Yes, such, in my opinion, are not RF needs as specialists ..
Something like this ...
Sincerely,

[hydrox]

Thank you.
Noted.
We are glad that everything is going so well and successfully with you!

[DRM]

Quote: Astra wild

If you believe the media: Ukrainians in Europe wash toilets. In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

Believe the media - do not respect yourself.

[Spektr]

Luminium and cast iron, too. But what about the sanctions? This is the whole lie of penguins overseas.

[donavi49]

Well, this is a private rocket that has survived in recent years. The company that created it has already died and gone bankrupt. The design of a new market missile is buried, as well as modernization projects. The missile department is currently developing a new launch vehicle for the owners of Northrop - Omega.

The only customer of Antares is NASA and only within the framework of the ISS supply program. Moreover, the next program (which will be announced soon) is far from the fact that Antares will fall. Under the current paid contract, all missiles are either made or are in a high degree of readiness. There are no new contracts from NASA and there will never be (an expensive rocket came out very much).

[spech]

It is necessary to announce the all-Ukrainian collection of aluminum pans
with further alteration into fuel tanks.
PS you look remove the pan, start to think.

[Uncle lee]

Aye! And what will they wear on their heads ?!

[Lipchanin]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And what will they wear on their heads ?!

Here it is

[Uncle lee]

This is a stainless steel! Will have to turn in!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Uncle Lee

This is a stainless steel! Will have to turn in!

Yes, I must have passed

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lipchanin

probably passed

And maybe wiser! I hope ....

[Lipchanin]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And maybe wiser!

Oh no. Judging by how the outskirts break through the bottom time after time, they’re not going to grow smarter

[Lipchanin]

Quote: spech

It is necessary to announce the all-Ukrainian collection of aluminum pans

Schazzzz. And what to skip? Everything can pop out. And maybe in the pan

[major147]

Quote: spech

announce the all-Ukrainian collection of aluminum pans

Blasphemy !!! He encroached on "holy"! They got these pots from the ancient Egyptians!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: spech

It is necessary to announce the all-Ukrainian collection of aluminum pans

the article says - At the moment, we are talking about the purchase of metal in the Russian Federation in the amount of about 110 million rubles., at a price in the Russian Federation in factories (approximately) 90 r / kg Al, then a purchase of about 1200-1300 tons ..... this is nothing at all .... funny ....

[Hto tama]

You think from the world hide the true version of the appearance of the crying wall and then the Romans, the temple ... but it won that it .And on the topic, for some time I agree with the radicals. Do not buy or sell anything 404th, the faster this pseudo-state disappears from the world map, the less problems there will be

[Astra wild]

Girlfriend, if any genie of their radicals is thrown into the ocean, it will be cleaner on earth, but ecologists will be indignant that we are sending the ocean

[Dimy4]

Truly, a Jew cried when x ... a Ukrainian was born!

Hanged like even, no?

[Finches]

Some hanged themselves ...

[Astra wild]

To hang their radicals, I don’t remember this, but I remember how they can shoot: twice in the back, probably bored in the head?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dimy4

Hanged like even, no?

The rope broke

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Finches

Truly, a Jew cried when x ... a Ukrainian was born!

I hesitate to ask, what is the last letter in a word starting with "X"?

[Finches]

The first letter of the word Lichen!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Finches

The first letter of the word Lichen!

I do not understand, but appreciated

[Forest]

This is the same judging by their presidents)

[Victor_B]

ONLY BUSINESS!
They are buying from us.
We sell them!

[orionvitt]

Quote: Victor_B

They are buying from us.
We sell them!

Unlike Ukraine, Russia does not fight with Ukraine. But the business, it is time to stop with Ukraine. Let them start their production (utopian version). For example, Zaporizhzhya Aluminum Plant, which has been standing for ten years already. From Dnepropetrovsk only 85 km. Of course, it’s easier to arrange Maidans. But it turns out to buy in Russia is cheaper than doing your own .. And not some hellish crap, but ordinary aluminum, which during the Union, was smelted in Ukraine since the first five years.

[Ka-52]

ONLY BUSINESS!
They are buying from us.
We sell them!

we have at least a concept localization when conducting major government contracts. In Sumerians, it is clearly completely absent.

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine ordered almost 89 tons of rolled aluminum in Russia to implement a contract with the American company NGIS ... worth about 110 million rubles.

Once again, they helped those who, at every European corner, yelling about the "aggression" of Russia, crap our country. Is there really no one to sell aluminum besides Ukraine (for the Americans)? Of course there is, but an incomprehensible policy in relation to a hostile country, which in fact is Ukraine, I personally do not understand. And the Americans were forced to buy through Ukraine because of the sanctions that they themselves imposed?

[Aleks1973]

Yes, they sold very well for 1150000 per ton, with a price on the exchange a maximum of 200000 rubles ...

[Mityay65]

Profiled rolled products, or even finished pressed panels, are sold. This is a special alloy duralumin, stock aluminum is another.

[bessmertniy]

Ukraine probably would not have bought it if they had made such aluminum in themselves.

[Mityay65]

Ukrainian designers laid the well-known products of the Samara Metallurgical Plant, the customer agreed. Now the Americans bought rental at the SMZ and sent them to work at the YuMZ. Neither zrada nor overpower ... boring, everyone is happy.

[hydrox]

This is because such a price that they do not buy lumen, but duralumin (which they cannot cook), in addition it is metal subjected to a vacuum operation - that’s the price that has run up ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rotmistr60

Once again they helped those who, at every European corner, yelling about the "aggression" of Russia,

First of all, they helped themselves.
The contract is money, this is the salary of the workers.
And they screamed as they screamed, and they will scream

[Avior]

It’s interesting, but the one who sells aluminum in Russia, contributing to the American competitors of Russian space technology for an insignificant amount, have they made recognition?
If the sale of engines is more or less clear, you can make money there, then you won’t earn much on aluminum, but they still sell it.

[The leader of the Redskins]

And our fellows are also great. They shouted about Bandera, about the deceitful "partners", but decided to sell. Proudly did not refuse)))

[Nastia makarova]

no one ever planned to stop selling !!! it is on the other hand there is a lock

[hydrox]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And ours, too, well done.

Of course, well done!
We have this metal not painfully more expensive than it costs on the exchange, but it is GOST-compliant, welded with special technology, and passed special quality control, up to gamma-ray inspection, so you need to suck suckers!
The only question is, WHO will have a margin on this lily - Russia or the Americans (the real owners of the "Russian Aluminum" Olezhka)?

[Mityay65]

Quote: Avior

and the one who sells aluminum in Russia, contributing to American competitors

And who is selling titanium? VSMPO-Avisma. Half of Boeing, Lockheed and Airbus with our titanium. This is all known.
Rusal has the main US market, about 40% of the supply.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Avior

If the sale of engines is more or less clear, you can make money there, then you won’t earn much on aluminum, but they still sell it.

See above forum member post

Alex1973 (Alexey) Today, 07:43

[Avior]

looked
but he does not take into account a lot of subtleties
more than one aluminum goes to space technology and pots, and its price is very different.
still the price depends heavily on the form of rental (and even more so if the metal is just in bullion)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Avior

still the price depends heavily on the form of rental (and even more so if the metal is just in bullion)

So the price is indicated there.
Well, see the post below

[Avior]

I meant that it is not written that this is the price for the same grade of aluminum.
on the site "Industrial Support" Alfa-Metal "there are prices and higher, 260 thousand, for example, there are 180 thousand, but most of the positions are price on request
where the prices are from and for what, I don’t know, the author did not disclose

[hydrox]

Quote: Avior

If the sale of engines is more or less clear, you can make money there, then you won’t earn much on aluminum, but they still sell it.

This lamen is not simple, but evacuated (GOST), which is why it costs 6 times more than the exchange one - and the racers did not refuse!

[Avior]

no matter what it is, the price is still much lower than that of a finished engine and even more so a rocket.
But the main thing is to crawl competitors from the United States.
Losses per ruble, income per share.

[O. Bender]

Loot steers, as always. There will be a margin will be served at least a damn bald one. Margin is out of political mansions.

[oracul]

Idiocy is Ukrainian nationalism of the highest standard. Even the fact that the order was made by the Americans, who support them in the confrontation with Russia, does not stop.

[novel66]

the dissonance, as usual with ukrov, or zrada, or overstrike, does not differ from one another

[Lipchanin]

Quote: novel xnumx

either zrada, or overstrike, one from the other does not differ at all

[novel66]

healthy, Serge!

or too much

[rocket757]

About Krajina ... no way.

[Ura Orlov]

Ukrainians bought from the United States, because all aluminum plants in Russia belong to the United States, Putin needs to nationalize them all urgently.

[Gardamir]

The main thing is how to turn. Laugh at the Ukrainians, or think about the entrepreneur of Russia selling everything just loot dripped.

[ANB]

Ukrainians need to buy aluminum in the Czech Republic from PPF.
And what about the fact that they do not produce aluminum. Slovakia also does not produce gas.

[Maks1995]

And exactly the company is Russian? Rusal then, already in offshore with amers in the leadership.

And they themselves are still rocket engines in America helmet.

So business, nothing personal, "you need to rejoice" (VV Putin)

[Operator]

To liquidate a Russian company selling aluminum, to send its general director to Magadan for 25 years without the right of correspondence, to withdraw the proceeds to the budget.

[hydrox]

The company is Russian only by geography: the controlling stake in the Americans, the Board of Directors also managed without Russians, Supervisory - about nothing :: only now you try to liquidate it, take the proceeds, and plant the management - I will look at you and laugh heartily at this circus :: "Russian Aluminum" bye-bye - the liberal authorities have achieved their goal and have given "RA" to amerskie hands !!

[Lamata]

and the noise is because of what, youzhmash should live as it should, or to spite grandmother’s ears, I’m giving birth.

[Yehudi Menuhin]

And Deripaska sold his aluminum Khokhlam and saw that it was good

[Lord of the Sith]

Let them sculpt from dung, it is not an enemy and environmentally friendly

[Operator]

Quote: hydrox

You now try to eliminate it.

There would be a company (tax resident of the Russian Federation), but there would be a hassle.

[Moon]

old news, and even presented as "confession"
Although they officially ordered themselves through the general procurement system - which is immediately accessible to everyone
if necessary, why not order
but journalists need to file
American capitalists sold Russian aluminum product to Ukrainian "fascists" to make a product for American capitalists ..
the cycle of American money.
And all the other "liberals from the Russian Federation and fascists from Ukraine" - can continue to argue who is cooler.
In fact, everyone rolled American money.

[Victor March 47]

Quote: hydrox

This is because such a price that they do not buy lumen, but duralumin (which they cannot cook), in addition it is metal subjected to a vacuum operation - that’s the price that has run up ...

The price ran not from evacuation. but from the understanding that you can take a lot of dough.
It is in the USSR that prices evolved differently.

[Astra wild]

Quote: hydrox

Quote

Thank you cheered: Ph.D. in toilet cleaning, doctor of toilet sciences. It remains to officially introduce such disciplines and they are guaranteed happiness

[Astra wild]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Let them sculpt from dung, it is not an enemy and environmentally friendly

In fact, there is already little agriculture involved, which means that dung is in short supply

[DRM]

For 6 years at VO they have been saying that Yuzhmash has died. It turns out that Yuzhmash is a supplier of Northrop Grumman and a participant in the American space program ?! Where is the truth zing?

[Astra wild]

Quote: DRM

Quote: Astra wild

If you believe the media: Ukrainians in Europe wash toilets. In my opinion this is not a rational use of intelligence

Believe the media - do not respect yourself.

In this case, Ukrainians do not wash toilets in Poland and Germany? /

[lvov_aleksey]

how funny it became to me ....