"To guarantee the penetration of bulletproof vests of the Russian Federation and China": the US Army will be equipped with new armor-piercing cartridges

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In the United States, tests of the new 7,62 mm armor-piercing cartridge are ongoing. The XM1158 program provides for the development of a cartridge that can hit targets with a higher mortality rate than the currently used cartridges M80A1 and M993.

As you know, increasing mortality is one of the programmatic tasks of modernizing the US armed forces, provided for by the new US defense strategy. The U.S. military leadership expects the XM1158 cartridges to help achieve this goal with a much greater likelihood than the current M993 armor-piercing cartridge.



Comprehensive information on the new armor-piercing cartridge is not yet available. But it is known that the XM1158 cartridge, designed to effectively defeat armor, is compatible with these main types weaponsused by American infantry units as machine guns of the M240, Mk48 series, rifles of the M110, Mk17, Mk14 and M14 series.

The new cartridge was developed by specialists at the Fort Benning Center in Georgia. Back in March 2019, the military reported on the successful completion of the test cycle of the cartridge XM1158. In the process of testing, the American army used special targets with barrier protection, allowing for reliable computer simulation of the damaging effect of the new armor-piercing cartridge.

However, in the tests conducted, the effectiveness check of the XM1158 did not end. The US military plans to conduct another test to determine the ability of the new cartridge to penetrate a variety of targets. If the cartridge successfully passes all the tests, it will be put into service with units of the American army.

There is no doubt that the true reason for the development of new cartridges is the improvement of weapons and defenses against the Russian and Chinese armies. The traditional cartridges used in the US Army and the armed forces of most NATO countries have recently proved useless against body armor of the RF Armed Forces and the PLA.


The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. Armed Forces, Army General Mark Milli, even in his recent tenure as chief of staff of the ground forces, made an official statement that the 5,56 mm caliber cartridges used in the M4 and M16 assault rifles cannot hit modern armor protection equipment armed with Russian and Chinese troops.

It was this circumstance that made the American military leadership think about introducing a new armor-piercing cartridge in infantry, reconnaissance, and engineering units, which would guarantee penetration of bulletproof vests of the Russian Federation and China.


Now almost all the most important decisions on new types of weapons are made by the American leadership, based on the needs of the confrontation with potential opponents - Russia and China. That is, the capabilities of the Russian and Chinese armies are analyzed and it turns out where the US military has vulnerabilities.

Considerations for the release of a new cartridge were presented by the army command to members of the US Senate Armed Forces Committee. The United States expects to solve the issue of the release of new cartridges in the 2020 fiscal year. For these purposes, additional budget funds are provided.
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  1. -4
    5 February 2020 09: 21
    In my opinion, both the ammunition and the gunpowder on the gunpowder have reached their peak of development ... only various options for their modifications go further ... the Americans have not invented anything new here.
    1. +5
      5 February 2020 09: 27
      cartridge 7,62 mm.
      Everything is back! 7,62 is our everything!
      1. +7
        5 February 2020 09: 32
        Author to write such articles - You need to have more knowledge about ammunition!
        This is a cartridge upgrade 7,62 /51. (308) With a tungsten carbide core!
        1. KEX
          0
          5 February 2020 10: 08
          Well, in the picture, yes 308 - i.e. 7.62x51 (so for sure), in addition they squeeze 6,8 mm, try to adapt the 6,5 kind of military needs (like something between 308 and 5,56) only with energy like 308. in general, the market is full of ammunition of various calibers with energies of more than 3,5 kJ - just an energy of 308 kcal (which is enough to increase mortality even for opponents with satellites - of course, we take into account that the distance of confident defeat of the enemy with satellites will be less than half the usual distance), well, In general, this is twice as much energy as in low-pulse calibers. Of course, from the point of view of efficiency, the mass of ammunition (accordingly, the wearable quantity of ammunition), the effect on the arrow, etc. must also be taken into account. These are the things that primarily suffer from an increase in muzzle energy.
          1. +4
            5 February 2020 10: 33
            Well, with 6,5 (243) - they have been experimenting for a long time (cartridge sleeve 308). But the cartridge did not win much popularity!
            I think - a very unpromising direction.
            1. +2
              5 February 2020 15: 50
              I think Russia will develop in response a dematerializer firing at our body armor. He shot and immediately evaporated in quarks into the abyss of the universe.
            2. +1
              5 February 2020 16: 25
              Well, with 6,5 (243) - they have been experimenting for a long time (cartridge sleeve 308). But the cartridge did not win much popularity!


              The 243Win bullet has a diameter of 6.17 mm, and 6.5 is a 260Rem. Both have an over-rolled 308 Win sleeve.
              As for popularity, it depends on where!
        2. sen
          +1
          12 February 2020 06: 39
          Tungsten Carbide

          It’s good that it’s not from depleted uranium.
    2. -4
      5 February 2020 09: 29
      Yes, but the US military has been dreaming of switching to 7,62 for about forty years. How not to seize the opportunity) Interestingly, and the sleeve will be with a hem?
      1. 0
        5 February 2020 16: 31
        US military dream to move to 7,62 for about forty years


        Why should they dream? Cartridge 308Wine is already 66 years old. And 30-06 was 114 years old. And before him it was 30-03.
    3. +4
      5 February 2020 09: 34
      Nevertheless, they are working on the creation of cartridges and weapons for them in full swing. It is no secret that modern cartridges 5.45x39, 7,62x39, 5,56x45 can no longer cope with the latest NIB. Mattresses collective farm a new cartridge, whether telescopic, variable caliber, it does not matter. The important thing is that they recognize the futility of existing rifle ammunition against armies equipped with modern NIS. And ours, for example, cling to old cartridges, including the times of the king of peas (literally) 7,62x54. Nothing is heard about the development of new ammunition, they only rush about with the AK-12/15, like fools with a written shell. However painful it would be then.
      1. -7
        5 February 2020 11: 49
        Again you are excruciatingly painful.
        The life of a fighter with the regime was hard.
    4. -3
      5 February 2020 09: 39
      Maybe they didn’t invent a bicycle ... But the caliber 7,62 is significantly more than 5,56 ... And after that it is really worth considering whether the transition from the caliber 7,62 to the USSR was justified. Maybe it was worth it for AK in the USSR to develop AK modifications? Or even get away from the concept of AK and lead the development of weapons to increase accuracy without reducing the caliber?
      1. +5
        5 February 2020 09: 54
        You do not confuse 7,62 * 39 and 7,62 * 51, but did not refuse 7,62 * 53R in the Soviet / Russian Army.
        1. +1
          5 February 2020 14: 49
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          from 7,62 * 53R in the Soviet / Russian Army and did not refuse.

          You probably meant 7,62x54R?
          Otherwise, how can one refuse a cartridge that was not in Russia (a Finnish cartridge)?!.
          1. -2
            5 February 2020 15: 05
            No, I didn’t confuse anything and I meant exactly the Russian / Soviet cartridge, but there is a problem with the designations, and due to the insignificant, even insignificant distribution of the Finnish cartridge, and even created on the basis of the Russian, this designation can be safely applied (7,62 * 53R) It is to the Russian cartridge.
            The cartridge 7.62x53R is often confused with the cartridge 7.62x54R, because the cartridge 7.62x54R has different designations, which introduces a lot of confusion - 7.62x53; 7.62x53R; 7.62x54; 7.62x54R.

            https://worldweapon.info/patron-762x53-r
            But thanks for the note, I was not aware of Finnish perversions.
            1. 0
              5 February 2020 15: 59
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              you can safely apply this designation (7,62 * 53R) specifically to the Russian cartridge.

              Do not bliss!
              I have nothing against the Finnish 7,62x53R cartridge, but there is a clear designation of the Russian cartridge as 7,62x54R. They have significant differences.
              1. -1
                5 February 2020 17: 01
                Wipe your eyes!
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                The cartridge 7.62x53R is often confused with the cartridge 7.62x54R, because the cartridge 7.62x54R has different designations, which introduces a lot of confusion - 7.62x53; 7.62x53R; 7.62x54; 7.62x54R.

                https://worldweapon.info/patron-762x53-r

                Yeshe
                7,62 × 54 mm R (7,62 × 53R; 7,62 × 54; 7,62 × 54R; from English rimmed - welt, with a rim) - a unitary rifle cartridge with a sleeve with a protruding rim of 7,62 × 53,72 mm, with a total maximum cartridge length of 77,16 mm, a bullet diameter of 7,92 mm and a muzzle energy of 3500 J.
                Wiki
                Also, the 7,62x54 R cartridge on sale may have the designations 7,62x53, 7,62x53 R, which introduces a lot of confusion. This confusion has arisen due to the fact that the length of the sleeve is rounded differently in different countries (the letter "R" indicates that the sleeve has a protruding flange). But after Russia entered the European Commission, the final designation of this cartridge 7,62x54 R.
                In addition, in Finland, based on the 7.62x54R cartridge, the 7.62x53R cartridge, also known as 7.62x53R Finnish.
                It is obvious that it is the Finnish cartridge that needs to be separately designated as Finnish, which is done.
                1. 0
                  5 February 2020 17: 39
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  It is obvious that it is the Finnish cartridge that needs to be separately designated as Finnish, which is done.

                  You have taken the path of demagogy.
                  Do not be excused by confusion in the minds of divannykh experts.
                  Russian only 7,62x54R !!!
                  You can forget the letter R, but specify 53 instead of 54 - this is no longer an error - this is a link to a completely different cartridge.
                  (Do you write your first name ... last name always in different ways? request )
                  1. -1
                    6 February 2020 03: 33
                    Quote: Genry
                    You have taken the path of demagogy.
                    Well, since you’re bombing for Finns and using links to designate a three-line cartridge marking 7,62 * 53R (albeit outdated) to you, I undertake to continue to use the marking 7,62 * 54R. )))
                    Quote: Genry
                    (Do you write your first name ... last name always in different ways?

                    The cartridge 7,62x54 R has the designations:
                    7,62x54 R, 7.62 mm Mosin-Nagant, 7,62 mm Mosin-Nagant M91, 7,62 mm Mosin, 7,62x54R Mosin, Mosin M1908 / 30, 7.62x54 R Russian, 7,62x54 R Russian model 1891, DWM 378, GR 683, S262 (r).
                    Put out the wick.
                    Once again ATP for inf. about the Finnish version of the cartridge 7,62 * 54R.
                    1. 0
                      6 February 2020 14: 18
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      The cartridge 7,62x54 R has the designations:
                      7,62x54 R, 7.62 mm Mosin-Nagant, 7,62 mm Mosin-Nagant M91, 7,62 mm Mosin, 7,62x54R Mosin, Mosin M1908 / 30, 7.62x54 R Russian, 7,62x54 R Russian model 1891, DWM 378, GR 683, S262 (r).
                      Put out the wick.

                      You also have an organism with atavisms. winked
                      From your source:
                      after Russia joined the European Commission, the final designation of this cartridge is 7,62x54 R.

                      Good luck!
    5. 0
      5 February 2020 11: 18
      The traditional cartridges used in the US Army and the armed forces of most NATO countries have recently proved useless against body armor of the RF Armed Forces and the PLA.

      And where and when did the Americans have time to test and disbelieve in their traditional ammunition?
      Fortunately, we didn’t have any direct clashes.
      Or did they receive complaints from barmalei from the Middle East ?!
  2. Ham
    0
    5 February 2020 09: 29
    the number of wunderwaffles exceeded all reasonable limits
  3. +1
    5 February 2020 09: 38
    “Guaranteed to break through bulletproof vests of the Russian Federation and China”: the US Army will be equipped with new armor-piercing cartridges

    For now, for now, there is no talk about lasers and the rest.
    An old, "kind", proven firearm!
  4. 0
    5 February 2020 09: 49
    Just another 7.62x51 modification for a machine gun and rifle. We are also conducting such work. The transition of the US Army to 30 caliber is out of the question. The author did not provide parameters of armor penetration.
  5. +3
    5 February 2020 10: 05
    The most democratic army in the democratic world is seeking new democratic ways of the most democratic massacres.
    Since the discovery by Columbus of America and the democratic killing of millions of Aboriginal people, the goals of assassinations in a democratically and self-conscious manner have not changed the democratic methods and variants of their achievement among the Anglo-Saxons
    1. +2
      5 February 2020 10: 52
      That's why she and the army - in order to kill enemies. Another thing, it is insulting that we are made of enemies. We will also have to think about how to kill Americans more safely and efficiently. what
  6. -3
    5 February 2020 10: 49
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    cartridge 7,62 mm.
    Everything is back! 7,62 is our everything!

    they have this caliber more powerful.
    1. 0
      5 February 2020 16: 17
      Quote: besik
      they have this caliber more powerful.

      You confuse submachine gun and rifle cartridges.
      1. 0
        6 February 2020 03: 32
        As far as I remember, they are developing automation for this cartridge. Therefore, I hardly confuse it. hi
  7. KEX
    +2
    5 February 2020 10: 51
    Quote: Hunter 2
    (sleeve 308)


    it's 6,5x48 - (re-compressed 308 to 6,5) - I love this caliber and shoot regularly. more accurate, less wind-dependent, but burns out the barrel faster (higher pressures). I consider military use limited to sniper operations on small-sized targets (specific parts of the body) up to 500m (my IMHO after a certain shot). defeat of the enemy (growth target, motionless) is confident up to 1km (when using the enemy’s SZ we divide by two). Further 1.1 km falls to subsonic and has an unstable trajectory.
    1. +2
      5 February 2020 11: 29
      Sory, Memory failed ... 6,2 / 52 (243 Win) and the rest - That's right.
      He fired with Saco Tactic 243 - the cartridge did not particularly impress me. And how does he dirt the trunk ... to clean Already using chemistry.
  8. +6
    5 February 2020 11: 05
    All modern American armor-piercing cartridges are equipped with a caliber half-shell bullet with a steel or cermet (like the XM1158) core.

    The core is exposed in the head to increase armor penetration. A brass half-shell covers it from the sides and holds in the tail part a bismuth alloy weighting agent. There is no lead shirt, rifling of the barrel channel directly cut into the half-shell, therefore the barrel resource when shooting with armor-piercing cartridges is 3-4 times lower than the regular one. All modern NATO rifles and machine guns are made with the ability to quickly replace the barrel in the field.

    The RF Armed Forces have adopted new caliber armor-piercing cartridges of the Igolnik type, equipped with a full-shell bullet with a steel / cermet core, a lead jacket and a lead weighting agent. Bullets have less penetration than American bullets of a similar caliber, but they do not reduce barrel life.

    On the whole, it is possible to evaluate the development of caliber armor-piercing bullets as a dead end direction, since the weight of their core is exactly equal to the weight of sub-caliber bullets (arrow-shaped and conical) with multiple armor penetration rates, lower recoil momentum and barrel bore wear (due to a plastic pallet) in the latter.
    1. 0
      5 February 2020 15: 47
      you would nevertheless make a reservation that sub-caliber bullets are exclusively smooth-bore trunks, more expensive cartridges and not at all obvious superiority at the same time in penetration and slaughter of the striking element
      1. +5
        5 February 2020 16: 13
        Sub-caliber bullets are usually rifled barrels (with very gentle cutting, including Lancaster) for a small twist of the bullet in order to guarantee the separation of the pallet segments and to average the aerodynamics deviations due to production defects of the bullet.

        Penetration at a sub-caliber bullet (of equal mass with a calibrated core and at an equal distance) is always greater due to the increased lateral load in the contact patch.

        As for the difference in slaughter, I do not know anything. I can only assume that the stability of the sub-caliber conical bullet in the soft tissues after breaking through the bulletproof vest will be less due to the low gyroscopic stability and the loss of the conical shape during penetration. If you give a link to a comparison of slaughter, I will be grateful.
        1. 0
          5 February 2020 17: 26
          by penetration and lethality, I first of all meant that we either break through, with lethality "as it turns out," or we kill, with breaking through whenever possible. The caliber cartridge is clearly more advantageous here (at the same time) in both guises, that is, it is more universal
          1. +5
            5 February 2020 19: 22
            How can one kill without breaking through a bulletproof vest?

            As regards the killing ability of the sub-caliber bullets, the idea is this: in the process of breaking through an armor barrier, the tail unit is cut off at the arrow-shaped bullet, and the hollow tail section is flattened at the conic bullet. As a result, the center of hydrodynamic pressure in the soft tissues shifts forward the center of gravity with the loss of stability and the application of a heavy wound and shock from a hydroblow.

            Those. the passage of a sub-caliber bullet of soft tissues without breaking through an armored barrier is fundamentally different from the first case, the most characteristic of army use.
            1. 0
              6 February 2020 10: 06
              The noblemen, setting out the story of the creation of the 10x4.5 cartridge, mentions a flat on the tip and a groove on the body, without which he was inferior to an ordinary rifle LPS in slaughter (without any bulletproof vest). Later, summing up, he casually mentions the obvious superiority of the created OPP cartridge over the caliber rifle both in penetration and in slaughter. However, I think that it was still different bullets, because neither flatness nor, even less so, armor penetration could be promoted.
              As for caliber bullets, the main criticism today is not because of the penetration of relatively light 5mm bullets, but to "ricocheting from the grass." An increase in their weight to 5 or even 6 grams. with an increase in the powder charge, in order to maintain the original 900m / s, it would completely close this issue
              1. +5
                6 February 2020 13: 30
                The modern trend is the development of "weapon-cartridge" complexes, sharpened for breaking through army body armor. Therefore, if the goal is achieved by using sub-caliber bullets (providing a small recoil impulse, but ricocheting from the "grass"), no one will pay attention to the latter circumstance.
                1. 0
                  6 February 2020 13: 42
                  I think so too, but it seems that this time has not come yet
                  1. +5
                    6 February 2020 13: 49
                    For once, Russia has a chance to break ahead in the field of shooting (after the functional counterparts Stg-44 and M-16) laughing
                    1. 0
                      6 February 2020 14: 26
                      where would we be pulled even though AK-74
    2. 0
      7 February 2020 22: 02
      "The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have adopted new caliber armor-piercing cartridges of the Igolnik type" - they did not go further than experimental batches. 7N39 is very good!
      If suddenly I am mistaken - point to an official document. 7N24 and 7N24M with us.
      1. +4
        7 February 2020 23: 01
        7Н39 - this is the GRAU Defense Ministry index of the Russian Federation assigned when it was put into service. Another thing is that this cartridge may not be accepted for supply to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.

        The weight of the bullet is 4 grams, the initial speed of 850 m / s, a lead shirt, a steel shell plated with tompak. The core weighing 1,9 grams is made of cermet powder alloy (92% tungsten carbide and 8% cobalt). Penetration 1,8 times greater than 7N24, penetration of a plate of body armor 6B23-1 (steel 44C 6,3 mm thick) at a distance of 100 meters.
  9. 0
    5 February 2020 11: 33
    And he will break through the current plates of meta from a hundred, and the next generation will not penetrate at all.
    And the price of this miracle is $ 13 apiece.
  10. +1
    5 February 2020 13: 03
    Quote: Mestny
    Again you are excruciatingly painful.
    The life of a fighter with the regime was hard.

    I - no, I served my own and I'm not a fighter with the regime, again by. If you have something to say in the case, say it, but don’t hang labels.
  11. -1
    5 February 2020 16: 02
    Silly striped, we will not play war games like with the Papuans, with rare exceptions. A war of the WWII type is the last century, those that are now in the EU will be destroyed within a day or two, and all those who come on ships will not live to be unloaded. This is if you really want to face off with Russia. But this is all nonsense, the main thing is different, even the survivors in Europe where will they return?
    1. -1
      1 November 2022 23: 33
      Oh, are they stupid? Or are we "striped"?
  12. 0
    6 February 2020 04: 57
    Somehow infa that the new American bulletproof vests are holding an AK armor-piercing bullet.
    I hope that similar work is underway in Russia.
  13. 0
    6 February 2020 18: 17
    they hope. that they’ll break everyone. like standing ones. and otvetochka ... this is not fair.
  14. 0
    7 February 2020 01: 28
    I wonder what about our old forgotten BS-40? All sources speak of its significant superiority in armor penetration over the B-32. How would this cartridge "work" on modern American and Russian bulletproof vests, which can withstand B-32? Maybe it makes sense to start the production of BS-40 again? Moreover, the cartridge tested, worked out, was put into service.
  15. 0
    21 March 2020 02: 27
    PMSM Russia is high time to develop something in the caliber 6.5. And rifle and machine gun. What does it take right away to lay on a heavy tungsten bullet and / or hv-5 steel bullet, progressive burning gunpowder, shells of optimal shape, means of forced correct ignition of gunpowder in bulk. It is possible to provide interference-proof electroflame capsule. The rifle should repeat the ballistics of 8.58 paws, i.e. have a stability of a bullet at 1500 m. Automatic should exceed 7.62 * 39 at a distance. Yes, barrels will have to be made of alloy steels.

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